then most of them claimed that the speech of god is good and clear and an argument and proof and that the torah is not the psalms and the psalms is not the gospel and the gospel is not the quran and the cow is not the family of imran and that god undertook its composition and made it his proof of the truthfulness of his messenger and that if he wanted to add to it he would add and if he wanted to subtract from it he would subtract and if he wanted to change it he would change it and if he wanted to abrogate it entirely with something else he would abrogate it and that he revealed it in detail and that it was by god and not by others and no one has power over it except him but god despite all of that did not create it. so they gave all the attributes of creation and denied the name of creation.
ثم زعم أكثرهم أن كلام الله حسن وبين، وحجة وبرهان، وأن التوراة غير الزبور، والزبور غير الإنجيل، والإنجيل غير القرآن، والبقرة غير آل عمران، وأن الله تولى تأليفه، وجعله برهانه على صدق رسوله، وأنه لو شاء أن يزيد فيه زاد، ولو شاء أن ينقص منه نقص، ولو شاء أن يبدله بدله، ولو شاء أن ينسخه كله بغيره نسخه، وأنه أنزله تنزيلا، وأنه فصله تفصيلا، وأنه بالله كان دون غيره، ولا يقدر عليه إلا هو، غير أن الله مع ذلك كله لم يخلقه. فأعطوا جميع صفات الخلق ومنعوا اسم الخلق.