 So, so Howie, he looked at me and he looked at the rest of us and he just shook his head. He's
 like, I don't know what the fuck you kids are about to do, but I want no part of it. I'm out.
 He didn't say anything. He just walked right through us, literally walked right through us.
 And so we went back in the room and Mike was like, okay, I think I got the camera figured out.
 You know, who's going to fuck these girls, right? And I was like, I was like, I'll do it.
 So, so Howie, he looked at me and he looked at the rest of us and he just shook his head. He's  like, I don't know what the fuck you kids are about to do, but I want no part of it. I'm out.  He didn't say anything. He just walked right through us, literally walked right through us.  And so we went back in the room and Mike was like, okay, I think I got the camera figured out.  You know, who's going to fuck these girls, right? And I was like, I was like, I'll do it.