 But it was kind of like a precursor to anonymous.
 So back in those days, these were the guys that would be an anonymous now.
 I was kind of in one of these seedling Russian hacking groups back in the early 90s.
 What was the value of doing that for you?
 Was it just for fun or were you getting paid?
 So part of the credo was that it was never for money.
 But it was kind of like a precursor to anonymous.  So back in those days, these were the guys that would be an anonymous now.  I was kind of in one of these seedling Russian hacking groups back in the early 90s.  What was the value of doing that for you?  Was it just for fun or were you getting paid?  So part of the credo was that it was never for money.