 It was always to be done just for the community and for the spirit of hacking.
 But I did wind up starting to realize that there was money to be made.
 So let's back up to freshman year because this is actually pretty interesting maybe.
 So freshman year, there was no graphics on the Internet.
 There was no Netscape.
 There was Mosaic, and it was all text, right?
 It was always to be done just for the community and for the spirit of hacking.  But I did wind up starting to realize that there was money to be made.  So let's back up to freshman year because this is actually pretty interesting maybe.  So freshman year, there was no graphics on the Internet.  There was no Netscape.  There was Mosaic, and it was all text, right?