paris france young new president emmanuel macron say life world leader less cool might seem cite talk turkish counterpart tayyip erdogan example ask le point magazine interview try new cool kid global stage macron reply global stage really cool scene know ask give example say one talk erdogan every 10 days elaborate erdogan often criticize leaders western europe clash european union human right issue last know conversation macron erdogan aug. 27 discuss fate french journalist jail turkey aide macron late say french president mean mock criticize turkish counterpart conversations mr. erdogan always serious aide explain france 's macron say job 'cool cite talk turkey 's erdogan