text: for victory to be declared in a war, does it not mean war must hav been declared by both parties involved? how can any one have victory when the country of iraq was "invaded" and no war declared. victory over what? ideologies, religion, people, a theory, or a decomocratic government based on western ideologies which appear never to work in islamic societies. you are comparing apples to oranges. first off, japan never had a formal declaration of war against the us. they just sneaked in and attacked us.  because the islamic ideology is different, and that a radical group can and does control a vast majority, only proves that if one of the imams openly said " go to america and begin killing infidels", there would be more immigrants coming across the border just to kill americans.