text: when the time comes that our military, and our commander in chief along with the iraqi government determine .. that iraq is secure enough, and capable of handling it's own defenses, and our troops are called home..... will the iraq war detractors claim victory in their call to get the troops back now the answer is yes. anything the president does from now until the end of his term will be pounced upon by his detractors in an effort to demoralize and discredit. anything that happens in iraq that either is negative or can be spun in a negative view, likewise.  as long we have to deal with the ted kennedys and hillary clintons of this world, people will continue to misunderstand the events going on around them, because they will be listening to campaigns of misinformation.  one example is the person who answered saying that the american people were told that the war would be over in less than a year. the truth is that major combat operations were over in far less than a year, but then terrorist, jihadist, anti-american insurgents began their campaign of murder and quasi-organized crime (such as kidnappings for ransom). see, people listen to the liberal, far-left media and other whining sources, and come to believe that bush lied - instead of what really happened, which is that he was talking about major operations (force-on-force maneuvering at the division-element level), which really was over in less than a year.  the same people who spread the misinformation in the first place will be the first ones to blow the whistle when their nonsense doesn't pan out.