text: describe a situation that would constitute 'winning' the war in iraq/afghanistan/ 'on terror'? people always say that we have to 'keep fighting until we are successful', but what does that actually mean?  does anyone know, or is it this just orwellian rhetoric used to keep up the support for a perpetual state of collective fear and global warfare? when do we win the war on drugs, the war on crime...  when its over.  terrorism is something that given the nuclear proliferation of the world is not something we can allow to continue.  in the past skirmish's were bad but you didn't threaten the world.  now one wrong person can destroy the world.  now what do they use to fund their terror?  oil and then sell it for money.  look how much money sadaam had stock piled. we have to control it if there is not a stable govt that can do it them selves.  this society is based in "do it now"  as osama bin laden said, "the us doesnt have the political guts to fight this war".