text: can you use a strawman and a red herring within the same argument? try to do it in less than two or three sentences! without have a  clue about the subject of the debate (i prefer debate to arguement) it is impossible to answer this question.    the strawman makes a good target for bow and arrow practice and the red herring makes fairly good shark bait.  see i got them both in one sentence. i am i brilliant or what!!