text: can a sexy/holy meme establish itself because it contains a sexy circular self-referential argument? the sexy/holy circular self referential argument would go something like this:  x is the one true meme. we know x is the one true meme because the source of universal truth (or whatever) has approved x.  we know the source of universal truth has approved x, because x contains statements which say so.  we know what x says is true because x is the one true meme. if it's dressed properly, yes it can become established.  if you put it out there in it's formal syllogistic format, you won't sell it.  dress it up with flowery language and kill some people who doubt it every once in a while, and you grant it legitimacy.  would that humans could always break things down logically and reject those things that don't meet the basic tenets of logical validity.  it saddens me that people are swayed by logical fallacies on a daily basis.  oh, and i took that as an invitation to report abuse, so i reported you wayknow t.  have a nice day.