this review title is: these are short half the length of a normal perm rod and the content is: not what i was expecting i thought i would get an average length rod that was very thin these however are very short about the length of my thumb or pinky i was doing my sons hair on top with grey rollers we roll thin and use about with these we rolled thin and used i would not buy these again they are more for toddlers hair or something.there are other information for this review, one is this reviewer did purchase it and the other is 0 people think this review is helpful.