flimsy [SEP] i have very fine long hair and this is much too flimsy for even my hair perhaps the size i ordered is too large but i have been buying this kind of bun styler for years from claires boutique sadly claires no longer sells them if you are looking for the same kind claires used to sell this one is less than half the girth making my bun look more like a loose flat pancake i think if i use a lot of product and tease my hair it might work but i am looking for something quick and simple to hold my hair up tightly for when i go runningother than that i received the product in about a week and a half also the packaging is as shown in the picture it is just hard to tell how thin it is from the angle in the image