eh meh nah [SEP] i got these a month ago when i saw these featured on a youtube hair video from a youtuber i follow and generally her advice on products is solid but these french pinsthe idea concept is simple and tried and true so no way to really mess it up right wellwhat i do like is the color and the paint or coding has not faded or chipped off the slight curve allows for the in to rest against the curve of your head the length is nice and allows more versatilitywhat i do not like is the material for at target i was not expecting something industrial but the material is very very flimsy and not remotely sturdy not only that maybe it is the coating on the pins these things do not stay in for long or at all sometimes i have fine long hair and these pins will not stay put if i do not use product i usually use a leave in conditioner so that helps to create texture and the pins seem to stay in longer these might work better with coarse thicker hair it is too bad the material is not sturdier so do not think you can do anything while wearing them the minute you start anything other than sitting and look pretty for however long you wear them they will fall out without even trying i had my hair half pined up with a barrette and then pulled the rest up in a twist and made sure the prongs were under the barrette so that it was more secure but it did not even last half a day and i sit in a cubicle for hours staring at a computer just getting up to get a cup of coffee or a printout from the copy machine or other basic tasks would easily loosen the pinthese are merely okay if you are doing absolutely nothing but sticking a pencil to keep your bun in place work just as well it is too bad since they are pretty but these are not that functional