good value except some of the pins are not worth it [SEP] these pins are a mixed bag the double tined pins are the best those pins are long and strong with a touch of flexibility one of these keeps my hair up and out of the way without snagging or pullingthe single pins are also strong and flexiblejust not very long if you have got lots of thick curly hair as i do it will take several strategically placed pins to keep things togetherfinally some of the single pins have a raised design that runs the full length of the too short pin the problem is that the raised design catches at my hair and pulls you might get the pin in and enough of them to hold your hair up but it may come loose carrying part of your hair with it making it harder to reinsert intentionally pulling these pins out is just as badso if you are fine paying the total price for the double tined pins in the collection it is all good if not and your hair is fine with the shorter smooth pins it is still goodi do not recommend using the pins with the full length design ouch