disappointing [SEP] shiner gold was not what i expected i expected a pretty stiff hold after all it says on the can heavy hold that is not exactly the truth it is a medium hold at best i have relatively short hair so i can only imagine how much product you would have to use to get a good holdi also expected the product to make my hair shine i mean it is the name of the product but i did not notice any real difference i have used other products that had a much higher shinethe can and art work were cool it has a pleasant smell it is just not really the pomade i hoped forit is very possible i set the bar to high for shiner but it was disappointing