about what you would expect with better than average customer service [SEP] these are pretty much what you would expect they are not as flexible as some i cannot say that i am overly impressed with the quality since the ends have popped off a couple of them while i was folding them up they did go right back on but it is not the sort of thing you expect the first couple of times you use somethingthe good news is that there are plenty of themedit september posting this i have heard from the customer service department with help for the issues i had with the rollers i wanted to publicly thank them for this for anyone with questions do not hesitate to email them they are really much better than the average out there to me that is important