difficult to make this stay closed [SEP] the pictures on this product make it seem like you can use this bobby hair tie in a ponytail this is not true my hair is very thin and with any type of hair tie i have to tie it at least three times i cannot make this hair clip wrap around and stay wrapped around my thin ponytail i can do this at the end of a braid with less hair it is cute but it is difficult to make it stay closed