too heavy too thick [SEP] maybe my hair is too heavy or too thick maybe my manual dexterity leaves much to be desired i found this gadget to be great in theory but horrible in practice for me it was far too flimsy and did not work with my thick straight nearly waist long hair i have better luck with making buns via chopsticks sock or asin i suggest that like me you spend no more than to find out if it works for you i tried on separate occasions to try to get it to work with a variety of methods to twirl it into a bun i threw it away this morning but since i spent less than i did not feel too bad for it