perfect upgrade from yr older norelco [SEP] i was using an older norelco model of this device and was happy with it except that now it was so old that it was acting up this one works just as well and maybe better in some respects for example they have upgraded the vacuum and container so now even less hair falls out on the sink i am not sure what to do with the turbo though do not see much use for it in my case my box did not come with a cleaning brush which was a surprise and the packing is just incredibly hard to open up