do not expect anything to last to long [SEP] t the quality of the ribbon ties is cheap also wish there were not so many black a bit expensive for what you getafter having these for a couple of weeks i realized these do not last very long the quality is terrible especially with the ribbons i have already gone thru half of them they died the ribbons shout be reversible a couple were because when you were them somehow the white is what is showing i am so sorry i made this purchase and wish i had returned them these were each worth about a penny or each