i need practice [SEP] first these bun makers smelled awful right out of the package i had to hand wash and rinse them well before i could even try them in my hair then i realized that they are not nearly as easy to use as the videos showed so before i say that they don t work i will practice they are larger than i expected but that s my fault for nor checking the dimensions i will update my review if i figure out how to really use them this has not been my best purchase from amazon