using this cleanser with clarasonic [SEP] for the price i have to wonder why this item is not listed under amazons luxury beauty line like many reviewers i was put off by the sheer amount of packaging that came along with this item it would not be so bad if they did not tout how conscious they were of environmental issues but i have purchased chanel with less packing come onall of the beauty and skin care products i consume are luxury at the moment i have been using dr grosss skin care line but until i could get back to sephora i have been using purity cleanser i was hoping this product would be a suitable replacement but i am not convinced so let me tell you about the photoseach night i cleanse my face with purity using clarasonics uplift with the revitalizing brush i follow this with micellar water by borghese and then a serum and moisturizer the whole thing takes about minutes it is therapy do not judge upon waking i swabbed my face with the micellar water and then took a picture of the cotton ball along with an untouched cotton ball for comparison and by the way for the uninitiated micellar water is the best skincare product to come out since mascara was invented i was sure that my clarasonic erased all traces of dirt no matter the soap but the micellar water never lieson the second morning first thing i used the clarasonic with the radiance brush and three pumps of laclaire foaming botanical facial cleanser two pumps did not create a bit of lather then using micellar water i swabbed my face again and there you have the picture of both no cleanser and cleanseryou can see that there is still a lot of dirt left behind after using this cleanser certainly less than no cleanser at all but there is still some there there is less dirt left after washing with purity so i would not call it a miracle cleanser it is really just okay