too weak compared to the extra strong formulation [SEP] let me start by saying i am a huge tiger balm fan i use the product primarily on the temples and neck for headaches where the cooling sensation works wonders i typically use the extra strength red formula but it sometimes does stain my collar so i wanted to try this versionmy wife likes this version better because the smell is much weaker but i find the clove smell of the red formulation quite pleasantbut for me the cooling effect is just not really there with this version it seems both weaker and shorter lastingmind you i like it and i will use it until it is gone and i can see that if you are sitting in an office this version may be much more appropriate but i will stick with the strong stuff from now on