these last forever i still have ones i bought years ago i have long thick hair they hold great love them [SEP] i have been looking for these for years i still have a few of the ones i bought years and years ago but have not been able to find them i just figured they were a relic of the past and then i stumbled across them on amazon i keep one in the shower so after conditioning i can put my hair up while the conditioner does its thing i keep a few with my other hair products in case i want to clip it in place till the gel or whatever product of the moment kicks in i keep a couple around for working out to get my hair out of the way i keep a couple by my bedside in case it is a warm night and i want it up these are so incredibly handy i love them they work great the only way i have had them break is if someone steps on them they will not just crack or snap or anything i bought two packs of them so that should last me a lifetime