i did my first bun [SEP] my daughter has very fine curly hair after straightening it i tried to use this clip and surprised myself how easy it was after using it a few times it got easier and i learned it is way easier to first put my daughters hair in a pony tail first the bun stayed very well and looked just like the perfect little bun it only took about minutes to figure out but now that i know how to do it it only takes a few minutes i am incredibly happy with this great little clip