dinosaur [SEP] you can tell intuit is feeling the pressure and knows they are losing relevance by the way they have put this together quickbooks itself is fine it works it does what quickbooks does which is create headaches and break regularly along with compromising your security and privacy if you do not lock it down however when you pay for some software the software is only a small part of the packagecustomer service and tech help are the two biggest parts of the package and well they are just crapmaking the payroll side of this a subscription system after charging an extra is just greedy forget it i can find open source payroll systems thatre more secure easier to use and free sans the donation i will make out of appreciation for work well doneif you are going to charge a subscription do not make me pay up front if you want me to pay up front do not charge a subscription under no circumstances will i tolerate double dipping from a software companysadly i am a bit too lazy to move all of my information over to another system just yet so it looks like i am stuck with qbs not so funny little quirks for another year