did not work for me [SEP] i was pretty excited to try these based on all the good reviews i have thick semi coarse curly hair these did not work for me using as is or even wrapped twice around they did not grip my hair or hold it tightly at all even wrapped twice around my ponytail kept slipping looser and looser and that was just wearing it for about half an hour also i could tell that if using it wrapped twice around it would easily lose it is shape in a short time glad these work well for so many but not for me