grips so well it does not want to come off [SEP] so these are good in that they hold fine hair very well but with that grip as others have stated comes the unenviable task of getting it out of the hair you can roll it out however that will wind any wayward hairs around it and result in a yankif anyone should use this i would recommend it for someone with very fine straight hair not prone to any type of flyaways also you will want to make sure that you flatten down any frizz or flyaways before rolling it out over the pony it can be done but i am not sure it is worth all the effort and toili put it into my daughters hair wet with a silicone serum in it overnight even though her hair was sleek and still in the pony completely the removal was problematic i am sticking with the grippy goody pony holders although i am curious if they will make design improvements because there is potential her pony held well and it was super easy to put it in