for very very long hair [SEP] i have very long hair as in to the middle of my back and this rod was still too long for my hair it makes it a little difficult to get a hair tie on the ends when you re finished wrapping their hair around it so i would warn someone with hair my length to buy one that s a little shorter the hair ties this comes with are very cheap so i threw them away and used my own velvet scrunches the hair clip broke as well because my hair is thick still for it s not a bad price also know that it takes some finess and practice in wrapping your hair in the best way to get the best results