experience with bars never this bad [SEP] i usually really like shampoo conditioner bars i always thought they were only good for short hair but i tried loved basin bars then i tried one from naples also great i ve even had mostly good experiences with etsy crafters making great bars this one well the only good thing i could say is it was a good size it made my hair feel dry almost stiff the smell was like old lady perfume i tossed it in the garbage after several uses i hope it works for other folks but sorry it was just horrid for my hair just for background fine thin super dry frizzy hair easy to tangle color treated every weeks never permed or relaxed about mid back long length