i did not expect to like these [SEP] let us start out by explaining that i have longer waist length fine hair but a lot of it nothing stays in my hair it tangles like a beast i have pretty much been living with my hair in a braid for the last year because it is the only thing i can do that does not end up in a huge mess but also mostly stays well except for all the frizzies and flyaways that sneak out so i was looking for another fast alternative to get my hair back and out of my face that also would not require an hour of brushing to undothese were cheap and amazon is always so great about returns that i decided to give it ago i figured at worse at least it would be a simple ish way to pull my hair back when i am working at the computer and they are seconds and my hair is back in a bun without the discomfort of lots of other hair styles i mean they are actually surprisingly comfortablebut what i did not expect is for them to hold so well i put my hair in a high bun yesterday then went for a run i had fully intended to take the bun out and put my hair in a braid because there was no way this thing would hold through a run but it did miles later my bun was still secure and tight but comfortable and looked as good which honestly was not that good to begin with as it did when i first put it up i could not believe it held through the entire runin all honesty they are a bit fussy to use and i have not perfected making it look like a perfect doughnut bun but i am not looking for winning style awards i just wanted a simple way to get my hair up and back that would hold for a few hours and in that aspect i got way more than i bargained forvery impressed very pleased very glad i took a chance