Not meant for HUMAN hair [SEP] I hate to admit this but my mom had to have had a really strong head to endure the pain of ripping these suckers out of her hair. It doesn’t matter if your hair is dry, whatever death grip these have, your lucky if you’re not bald when you’re done. I dried my hair to damp and it still took hours for my hair to dry enough for these to curl my hair and I have short hair. No thanks! Yes you get a ton of them but they’d be better suited putting on your horse or maybe a bear?