I returned mine [SEP] I have been an exclusive Norelco user for more than 50 years. When Target was selling replacement blades for my 8895xl(James Bond I think) for $38 and the 9170xlcc for $100 I bought it. Used it 30 days. I went from a 4 min shave to 5. The cleaning works but recharges the battery and makes a mess. Went from a 150 min battery(Li-on) to an 85 min battery. Went from a smooth feeling shave to a rough feeling shave. Shave not quite as close either. Who invents a cleaning system that you must plug and unplug everytime. No power switch. Went from a lousy snap cover to the first that stays on. Unfortunately, you can't use it, as the stand won't accept it.<br /><br />I did not feel the 9170 looked or felt cheap. I liked the idea you could lock the on/off switch. I personally liked the case. Went from a curled cord to a straight cord. I went from a stand to dry the 8895 to no stand for the 9170. Both have fancy displays. Neither are useful. Neither has a decent trimmer. I read that the new Arcitec's is worse.I went from a quiet razor to a slightly quieter one. I wonder if it's motor speed.<br /><br />In summary, Norelco Phillps has not been improving its line. I will stick with my old one until the sequel to the Arcitec (which has rather awful reviews so far)is out in several years, and buy new blades on the net.