Almost impossible to get in, poorly made [SEP] These are lovely to look at, but the holes are not quite large enough to put the bar in.  When you do get it into the holes that are meant to be used, I guess, it gives you no room for hair.  These are definitely more for pulling back a bit of hair or just adding a pretty hair accessory and aren't made to be used for  actual ponytails.  I have fine, thin hair and generally use the little girls ponytail elastics and barrettes, so that tells you how little these hold.  Don't waste your money on these.