NO. These are not eyeliners.... [SEP] I ordered these, hoping that they'd be something similar to Jordana's eyeliners from the early 2000's. NOPE. These could be used as coloring pencils, such as one would use on paper, but they're far too tough for skin. I tried this on my wrists first. Also tried on my cheek. I was smart enough, after discovering how much pressure had to be brought to bear, to NOT try this on an eyelid- these "eye pencils" are NOT soft enough for use even on eyebrows, much less on eyelids. Also discovered that my makeup remover, which works on everything, including waterproof mascara, barely budges the stuff once you do manage to get it to mark skin. These really are like a coloring pencil for a kid! I like a firmer eyeliner- not a fan of Maybelline's Tattoo stuff, for example, because it's too smushy- but this is way at the other end of the spectrum. *Sigh* Back to searching, I guess.