inputs.text: spx17pro mids - car good bit water coming doors certainly not build thehem like used anyway wanted find best speaker could find would fit inside stock speaker mounts water deflector not easy higher end speakers require cutout much larger stock mount would allow fortunately alpine spx17pros fit little veiled slightly less transparent reference standard vifa mg18 diy 7 drivers things considered extrehemely happy speakersi seen reviews complaining weak midbass producing much bass speaker heard size cutout requirehement fact regardless cutout diameter hang anything 275 less mounting depth really not fair compare speakers needing 6 cutouts requiring 3 mounting depth say thoroughly deaden seal door best could think others found makes huge difference speaker