in the united states , a midnight movie is a b movie or cult film shown at midnight , either at a cinema or on television .

the practice started in the 1950s with local television stations around the united states airing low-budget genre films as late-night programming , often with a host delivering sardonic asides .

as a cinematic phenomenon , the midnight screening of offbeat movies began in the early 1970s in a few urban centers , particularly new york city , eventually spreading across the country .

the screening of nonmainstream pictures at midnight was aimed at building a cult film audience , encouraging repeat viewing and social interaction in what was originally a countercultural setting .

the national success of the rocky horror picture show and the changing economics of the film exhibition industry altered the nature of the midnight movie phenomenon ; as its association with broader trends of cultural and political opposition dwindled in the 1980s , the midnight movie became a more purely camp experience — in effect , bringing it closer to the television form that shares its name .

the term midnight movie is now often used in two different , though related , ways : as a synonym for b movie , reflecting the relative cheapness characteristic of late-night movies both theatrically and on tv , and as a synonym for cult film .

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midnight movie <EOT> other than the standard explanation that we show old movies at midnight , the midnight movie is more . . .

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a midnight showing of an early 1970 ' s horror movie turns to chaos when the killer from the movie comes out of the film to attack those in the theater .

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midnight movie dvd review - - elis says midnight is a hip , self aware horror film . it won’t change your life , but its two hours of good clean gruesome fun

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on the air live with captain midnight is a 1979 movie directed by beverly sebastian and ferd sebastian with tracy sebastian as marvin ziegler , aka captain midnight , who runs his own pirate radio . . . more

star of midnight is an american mystery - comedy film released by rko pictures in 1935 . william powell was loaned out in this movie from mgm to star with ginger rogers .

after midnight is an american horror anthology film released in 1989 . besides the three stories within the movie , there is a wraparound story with a deus ex machina at the end .

on behalf of big foot entertainment , we are pleased to present midnight movie . at a run down theater in a sleepy suburban town , a group of friends attend the midnight screening of a 1970s cult horror film . these unsuspecting teenagers are unaware that the director and star of the movie made a bloody escape from a psych ward five years earlier and may still be on the loose . as the midnight movie begins , the kids heckle the old black - and - white scenes . but they are jolted when the killer butchers one of their friendson screen ! they soon realize that the killing is not a prank . they are locked inside the theatre and the killer from the movie is after them ! caught between reality and the screens flickering shadows , are they becoming the unwilling stars of the very horror movie they are watching ? more on the movie at urltoken permission granted to post trailer .

2 years after its dvd release in 2008 , director jack messitt got the chance to do a revised version of the movie . according to messitt , production company bigfoot entertainment was so impressed with the dvd sales that they eventually gave him more money to update the movie with new scenes and better special / sound effects . the new version was released as " midnight movie : killer cut " on dvd in 2011 .

. don ' t forget that this list is interactive , meaning you can vote the film names up or down depending on much you liked each movie that has the word midnight in it .

the movie has its flaws , but it is nonetheless an intriguing sci - fi entry and an engaging story about family .

weekly : sat 12 : 00 mid price : $ 11 . 00 midnight insanity

nichols has yet to make a bad movie , and midnight special is not only within his usual style of excellence - despite that semi - wonky ending - it ' s also his most accessible film to date .

monthly : 3rd sat 12 : 00 mid price : $ 10 . 00 midnight mayhem

monthly : 4th fri 12 : 00 mid price : $ 5 . 00 midnight cinema

monthly : 3rd sat 12 : 00 mid price : $ 10 . 00 midnight madness

trippy indie madeline ' s madeline is the movie that lakeith stanfield and boots riley from sorry to bother you want to see the most .

you watch helplessly as the movie goes off the rails , the suspense and excitement leaking out of the enormous tension the early scenes had generated .

miracle at midnight is a tv movie based on the rescue of the danish jews in denmark during the holocaust . it is a disney production and premiered on abc in 1998 . it was also portrayed in ms . . . . more

approaching midnight is a 2013 crime romantic drama film written and directed by sam logan khaleghi .

midnight is a 1998 brazilian - french drama film directed by walter salles and daniela thomas .

prior to the ’70s , midnight shows were the realm of the occasional horror release and exploitation distributors who used the slot to attract night owls to seedy fare . but the midnight movie as we know it — as a friday - and saturday - night staple featuring cult films — came into its own as the ’60s turned into the ’70s .

the midnight patrol is a short comedy film starring laurel and hardy released august 3 , 1933 .

the boston herald says midnight , texas is " a series you can sink your teeth into . "

midnight warrior is a 1989 action drama film written by charles t . kanganis and directed by joseph merhi .

midnight madness is a 1928 film written by richard n . lee and directed by f . harmon weight .

as the veil breaks and an apocalyptic sandstorm engulfs midnight , the midnighters rally to protect fiji from demonic forces .

, there are probably a lot more than you thought . this list ranks the best movies with midnight in the title , regardless of genre or rating . what is your favorite movie with midnight in the name ? this is kind of an odd way to categorize movies , but that ' s also why it ' s so fun ! there are probably one or two movies with midnight in the title that you instantly think of , but you might be surprised how many others there are too as you scroll through this list .

the midnight girl is a 1925 american drama film directed by wilfred noy , starring lila lee and featuring béla lugosi .

" in thus popularizing the underground , getz provided the spadework for the midnight - movie explosion of the 1970s . … [ t ] he underground invented a grass - roots alternative to ' straight ' movies , television , and theater . the underground demonstrated that , in america anyway , anyone could make some sort of movie and get it shown somewhere . accordingly , all manner of long - repressed sexual content burst scandalously upon the screen . there was even money to be made doing it . "

the bijou theatre opened on april 12 , 1917 with the play “the knife” and continued as a legitimate theatre until 1935 , when it switched to an all - cartoon movie format , but only briefly , since by 1936 , it had returned to legitimate theatre . in 1937 , it once again was a movie house , but by the end of the same year , was closed .

odeon offer a range of midnight screenings for some of the biggest films . these screenings are normally at 00 : 01 , 00 : 15 or 00 : 30 . meaning one minute , fifteen minutes or thirty minutes past midnight on the date listed .

midnight court is a 1937 drama film released by warner bros . the film stars ann dvorak and was directed by frank mcdonald .

over the next two decades , midnight screenings of mainstream films became commonplace , particularly in the years after the debut of star wars — episode i : the phantom menace , which attracted considerable press for the long lines of fans waiting to see the earliest possible screening . midnight premieres of films in the lord of the rings , harry potter , and twilight franchises followed — franchises with rabid , passionate fan bases and subcultures . but so did midnight screenings of virtually every movie released : feel the need to see the proposal the very minute the clock strikes 12 : 01 on friday ? now you can .

writer / director tommy wiseau stars in this midnight cult sensation , an electrifying black comedy about love , passion , betrayal and lies .

if the ranks of rocky horror fandom are thinner than at their height in the ’70s and ’80s , they still remain a self - replenishing resource , and rocky horror continues as an important rite of passage for misfits of all stripes , in hobart and elsewhere . but the larger midnight movie tradition from which it emerged is changing , and facing an uncertain future .

" . . . but i had somewhat designed the movie to be the type of film that would have blown my head off as a teenager . so when it quickly started building up a passionate following even on its initial release , that connection back to the films that inspired me came full circle . i like movies that reward repeat viewings and it’s a very dense movie so people come back again and also drag their newbie friends too . when the movie underperformed on its opening weekend , the head of marketing at universal , michael moses , sent me an email that simply said ‘years , not days . ’ i think he too knew that it could be a sleeper . "

past midnight is a 1991 neo - noir thriller film starring paul giamatti , tom wright and clancy brown alongside leads rutger hauer and natasha richardson .

harlequin romance series : at the midnight hour is a 1995 drama romance film written by lisa gardner and joe wiesenfeld and directed by charles jarrott .

the midnight landscape started to shift in the 1980s with the rise of home video , and as with every movie - related technological advance , something was lost as something else was gained . it’s no coincidence that the golden age of midnight movies started to fade as vhs ascended , but it also allowed their weirdness to spread . growing up in a tiny ohio suburb , i doubt i would have had access to most of those films if not for a well - stocked video store , and i’m sure i’m not alone .

this former chelsea movie house opened as the elgin theater in 1942 , designed by architect simon b . zelnik in elegant art moderne style with seating for 600 . it was located on 8th avenue , at w . 19th street . later , the elgin theater screened spanish - language films , and still later , revival and cult films . the elgin theater ended its movie house days as an adult theater . however , even as an adult theater , midnight movies , including “el topo” , “pink flamingos” , and “the rocky horror picture show” , continued to be screened . community pressure forced the elgin theater to close in the 1978 .

a group of young horror fans go searching for a film that mysteriously vanished years ago but instead find that the demented killer from the movie is real , and he ' s thrilled to meet fans who will die gruesomely for his art .

don ' t let the bad reviews scare you away from this one . it ' s actually a pretty good movie . the beginning starts as if it ' s really going to be bad but once you get into the middle of the movie , it turns out to be really good . yes it ' s an indie film , now it may not have had a huge budget , but it ' s better than a lot of the crap i ' ve seen out there . my son watched it with me and made fun of it up to about the 30 minute mark but then really got into and even started talking to the people in the movie . that ' s a sign he ' s actually paying attention . like i said this is not a big budget saw or scream and doesn ' t really claim to be . and no , i ' m in no way affiliated with the movie but i liked the movie for what it was . it was entertaining and at sometimes scary . definitely not a waste of your time to see . just make sure you sit through more than 30 to 45 minutes and give it a chance . it will probably surprise you . . .

and as the films that once occupied it began to disperse , the midnight slot started to go mainstream . warner bros . capitalized on the anticipation around tim burton’s 1989 version of batman by playing it at midnight on june 23rd , its opening day . the following year , disney went even further , devising an elaborate , troubled promotion by which moviegoers could buy " i was there first " dick tracy t - shirts that would double as admission to midnight screenings .

the clown at midnight is a 1998 horror film directed by jean pellerin and starring sarah lassez , james duvall , tatyana ali , christopher plummer and margot kidder .

midnight is a safe haven for those who are different , but with the presence of outsiders , the residents band together and form a strong and unlikely family .

a chapter devoted exclusively to the elgin is included in my recently published book , “repertory movie theaters of new york : havens for revivals , indies and the avant - garde , 1960 - 1994 . ” it’s listed on amazon and www . mcfarlandpub . com .

the midnight tradition has always had a corner dedicated to films that fall under the so - bad - they’re - good heading . ( it was midnight screenings , after all , that gave reefer madness its second life . ) but these days , if a new film has any hope of joining the ranks of midnight regulars , it most likely falls under this heading . films like birdemic : shock and terror ( 2010 ) and the room ( 2004 ) have attracted cults dedicated to their incompetence , which is compelling for reasons their creators could never have imagined . irony has always been one mode for midnight appreciation ; it’s now threatening to become the dominant one .

as i posted nine years ago ( omg ! ) , i saw freaks here about 1970 when i was a young teenager . my girlfriend and i came in more than half - way through the film , and the movie freaked us out so much ( one of us , one of us… ) that we fled at intermission . it was years later that i finally had the nerve to watch it again , and it was as distrubing as i remembered it . a weird little theater perfect for such a weird little movie .

the ‘60s saw a flurry of activity in underground film as jack smith , kenneth anger , andy warhol , and others made movies way outside the hollywood system , films that took avant - garde forms and featured content too extreme for the mainstream . that didn’t mean there wasn’t an audience for them , though . warhol’s 1966 film chelsea girls played new york for months , for instance , and in the latter part of that year , mike getz of los angeles’ cinema theatre — after having success in los angeles playing experimental films at midnight — hit upon the notion of sending a package of films on the road under the name " psychedelic film trips # 1 . " they played at midnight across the country in theaters owned by getz’s uncle louis sher , and they did well , making getz something like the johnny appleseed of the midnight movie . as jonathan rosenbaum and j . hoberman put it in their invaluable 1983 book midnight movies :

" chromeskull " is the sequel to the 2009 horror hit " laid to rest . " it brings back chromeskull , who barely escaped death in the first movie and is hell - bent on continuing where he left off . . . . . see full summary »

midnight mary is a 1933 film that reveals in flashbacks the hard life of a woman on trial for murder . it stars loretta young , ricardo cortez , and franchot tone .

as technology has changed , theaters have met even more challenges in attracting midnight audiences . at chicago’s music box theatre , assistant general manager buck le pard points to increased competition from netflix as a particular problem . " you want to do something , you’re hanging out with your friends , " le pard says , " like let’s go see a movie , and then it just became let’s see what’s on netflix . " music box has experimented with " eventizing " midnight screenings , partnering with the website consequence of sound and finding success with a midnight showing of blue velvet preceded by a celebration of all things david lynch , complete with actors dressed as famous lynch characters . the theater’s midnight selection also leans heavily on nostalgic offerings from the ’80s and ’90s , though sometimes it’s hard to figure out what films fall into the sweet spot . a recent run dedicated to ’90s blockbusters got off to a good start with jurassic park then faltered with independence day , mission : impossible , and speed .

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yet even if the charges stuck , the popularity of el topo and other midnight fixtures confirmed that there were viewers hungry for images and ideas they’d never see in respectable hours — and the communities that formed around them . in the heady buzz of a packed midnight house , these films reassured their audiences that because they were outsiders didn’t mean they were alone .

the fall and rise of scott pilgrim illustrates how difficult it is to predict the success , immediate or eventual , of any film — in prime time or midnight . a few titles , like the self - consciously cult - y 2008 musical repo : the genetic opera have made deliberate attempts to stake their claim in the midnight market , with varying degrees of success .

midnight my love is a 2005 thai romantic drama film written and directed by kongdej jaturanrasamee and starring petchtai wongkamlao and woranut wongsawan . the film features a change of pace for . . . more

the rare exceptions are those films that get a second chance thanks to midnight audiences . a combination of home video and midnight screenings made the big lebowksi into the cult object it is today . donnie darko and wet hot american summer both did meager - to - embarrassing business on their first release only to be rediscovered by appreciative , after - dark crowds . considered a commercial disappointment on its 2010 release , edgar wright’s scott pilgrim vs . the world has since become a midnight staple . " i didn’t expect it , " wright told me in an email exchange about the film :

midnight madness is a 1980 comedy film produced by walt disney productions and starring david naughton , stephen furst and maggie roswell . the film is about a group of college students who . . . more

before midnight is a 2013 american romantic drama film , the third in a trilogy featuring two characters , following before sunrise and before sunset . it was directed by richard linklater and . . . more

monica owusu - breen serves as writer and executive producer . david janollari and director niels arden oplev also executive produce . " midnight , texas " is produced by universal television and david janollari entertainment .

midnight is a 1939 american screwball comedy film directed by mitchell leisen and starring claudette colbert , don ameche , john barrymore , francis lederer , mary astor , and elaine barrie . written . . . more

the other side of midnight is a 1977 american drama film directed by charles jarrott and starring marie - france pisier , john beck and susan sarandon . herman raucher wrote the screenplay based on . . . more

london after midnight was a 1927 american silent mystery film with horror overtones distributed by metro - goldwyn - mayer . the film was based on the short story " the hypnotist " by tod . . . more

midnight special is a smartly crafted exercise in exploring what the gifted child means to different individuals and factions ; parents , government agencies , religious extremists , society , and most importantly , the boy understanding himself .

the rocky horror picture show is , in some ways , the safest form of rebellion , in hobart or elsewhere . " we have a big audience of teenagers , " cast member sarah denton ( who shares a last name with the hometown of rocky horror ’s heroes ) tells me , " and i like to think that we’re more of a safe place than anything . because it’s a saturday night , it’s a bunch of teenagers ; they could be going to parties , out drinking , out doing drugs , but we’re not doing that here . " instead , they’re watching and interacting with a movie , one formed from glam rock , bondage gear , and the cheap , lasting stuff of b - movie fantasies and dirty rock and roll . it’s a movie that takes a buttoned - up couple from denton , ohio and drops them into a fantastic , dangerous , arousing world they didn’t even know was within their reach . and if two kids from denton can find it , then maybe anyone can .

midnight run is a 1988 american action - comedy film directed by martin brest and starring robert de niro and charles grodin . yaphet kotto , john ashton , dennis farina , joe pantoliano and philip . . . more

midnight lace is a 1960 american mystery - thriller film starring doris day and rex harrison , directed by david miller . the screenplay by ivan goff and ben roberts is based on the play matilda . . . more

midnight special is an upcoming american science fiction film written and directed by jeff nichols . the film stars adam driver , michael shannon , kirsten dunst , and joel edgerton . it is nichols ' . . . more

bowery at midnight is a horror film starring bela lugosi . lugosi plays a psychology professor by day who , secretly and under an assumed name , runs a bowery soup kitchen by night called the . . . more

midnight in saint petersburg is a 1996 thriller film starring michael caine for the fifth time as british secret agent harry palmer . it served as semi - sequel to bullet to beijing which had been . . . more

the leghorn blows at midnight is a 1949 foghorn leghorn cartoon , released by warner bros . in 1950 , which was directed by robert mckimson . the cartoon also features henery hawk and the barnyard . . . more

midnight man is a 1994 action / martial arts film written by j . b . lawrence , produced by alan amiel and directed by john weidner . the film stars lorenzo lamas , james lew , and mako .

taken purely as entertainment , jeff nichols ' film midnight special is a smart , tersely constructed sci - fi adventure in the vein of classics such as e . t . and close encounters of the third kind .

midnight express is a 1978 american - british prison drama film directed by alan parker , produced by david puttnam and starring brad davis , irene miracle , bo hopkins , paolo bonacelli , paul l . . . . more

midnight in paris is an american 2011 romantic comedy fantasy film written and directed by woody allen . set in paris , the film follows gil pender , a screenwriter , who is forced to confront the . . . more

10 to midnight is an action - crime - thriller film directed by j . lee thompson from a screenplay originally written by william roberts . the film stars charles bronson in the lead role with a . . . more

chimes at midnight , is a 1966 english language spanish - swiss co - produced film directed by and starring orson welles . the film ' s plot centers on william shakespeare ' s recurring character sir john . . . more

midnight in the garden of good and evil is a 1997 american crime drama film directed by clint eastwood , and an adaptation of the book of the same name by john berendt , which was based on . . . more

midnight cowboy is a 1969 american drama film based on the 1965 novel of the same name by james leo herlihy . the script was written by waldo salt , directed by john schlesinger , and stars jon . . . more

a midnight clear is a 1992 american war film directed by former actor keith gordon with an ensemble cast featuring ethan hawke , gary sinise , peter berg , kevin dillon , and arye gross . set towards . . . more

five miles to midnight is a 1962 french - italian - american drama film directed by anatole litvak . it was produced through filmsonor s . a . , dear film produzione and mercury , and distributed by . . . more

the distribution wing of austin - based alamo drafthouse cinema , drafthouse films , has the rare distinction of surfacing new , or at least newly discovered midnight movies : gems like the gloriously amateurish ’80s action film miami connection ( set and filmed in orlando ) and roar , a bizarre nature adventure film produced by and starring tippi hedren . yet as fun as those movies are , there’s a notable shortage of new cult classics finding their audience at midnight .

midnight manhunt is a 1945 crime film mystery directed by william c . thomas and written by david lang . the film premiered on july 24 , 1945 and is in the public domain . the film stars william . . . more

the film acts like a road movie , looks and sounds like a sci - fi movie , but at it ' s heart , midnight special is about the lengths people go to protect their children and the cost of being a parent . michael shannon gives one of his best performances as the haunted father of a child he can ' t possibly hope to understand . nevertheless , he loves the child unconditionally and he reciprocates as best he can . joel edgerton , meanwhile , is stone - faced and practical , calling to mind a young clint eastwood or kurt russell - exactly the kind of character that john carpenter would write . later , kirsten dunst comes into the story as the boy ' s mother and adds a real sense of warmth to the film . adam driver , meanwhile , is more closer to bob balaban - a nerdy , nervy scientist who just wants to understand what ' s in front of him instead of understanding the consequences of it all .

midnight ride is a 1990 action / thriller film . it stars mark hamill , michael dudikoff , savina gersak , and robert mitchum in a cameo role . the film went out of its way to display some genuine . . . more

the midnight snack is a 1941 one - reel animated cartoon and is the second tom and jerry short , produced in technicolor and released to theatres on july 19 , 1941 , by metro - goldwyn mayer , and . . . more

at midnight i ' ll take your soul is a 1964 brazilian horror film directed by josé mojica marins . marins is also known by his created alter ego coffin joe . it is also brazil ' s first horror . . . more

the horn blows at midnight is a comedy fantasy film directed by raoul walsh and starring jack benny . its biggest claim to fame , apart from its star , is its failure at the box office . the film . . . more

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midnight in the garden of good and evil is a non - fiction work by john berendt . published in 1994 , the book was berendt ' s first , and became a the new york times bestseller for 216 weeks following . . . more

the midnight meat train is a 2008 mystery horror - thriller film based on clive barker ' s 1984 short story of the same name , which can be found in volume one of barker ' s collection books of blood . . . . more

midnight is a 1982 film by night of the living dead co - writer john russo . it is based on russo ' s 1980 novel of the same name , published by pocket books . it was shot on location in rural . . . more

you wouldn’t know that sitting in the art theatre in hobart , though . each week the cast and crowd goes through a ritual familiar to anyone who’s seen rocky horror at a midnight show : a pre - show featuring clips involving the rocky horror cast and other bits of weirdness . a " virgin auction " in which first - time attendees are subjected to good - natured , if obscene , initiation rituals . and then the show itself , in which the venerable movie plays out behind a live - action reenactment — known in rocky fandom as a " shadow cast " — as its dialogue gets interrupted by a mix of crude , witty retorts from the audience , some nearly as old as the film itself .

as with midnight screenings , odeon always use twenty four hour times to display our screening times . so for example , if we list a screening as friday 6th at 07 : 00 , that means this screening is a morning screening , at 7am . not an evening screening at 7pm .

jeff nichols is a genius . four films , four masterpieceses . whilst this isn ' t up to the 5 star standard of take shelter , it ' s still an amazing movie . the extended dialogueless scene towards the end is pure filmmaking of the highest order , the type of art that only the likes of kubrick , malick , lynch , mann , dominick and some of the greats of the 60s can do with any degree of success . superb stuff .

yet if rocky horror seems in little danger of fading away , it’s unlikely we’ll ever see its likes again . the midnight slot has become a different sort of space in the years since its 1970s heyday , and watching movies a different sort of experience . for better or worse , some of the conditions that helped draw in midnight crowds — namely a passive tolerance of drugs , alcohol , and rowdiness — are hard to find these days . and midnights aren’t the only route by which films now find their cults . leos carax’s holy motors — a film very much in the tradition of golden - age midnight movies , may have only played in a handful of theaters for a few weeks , but now i can rent it in a click and watch it on my laptop , at starbucks in the middle of the day . i can even link out to its amazing " entracte , " on youtube , a rousing musical showstopper that shifts the film into another gear as it moves toward its second act . you can watch it alone , if you like . but it will never quite be the same as its natural setting : in the dark , away from the rest of the world , after midnight .

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apr 2 , 1976 : rhps has its first midnight showing around april fool ' s day at the waverly theater ( now called ifc center ) , new york , ny - the start of rocky horror ' s " audience participation " phenomenon . sep 1976 : rhps audience members start to talk back and yell things at the screen .

now midnight has become just another spot on the schedule in many theaters , with even the see - it - first element dropping out as more and more films started hitting theaters on the thursday evening before their official release . does a slot once reserved for the weird and the unexpected have the same meaning when you can see the proposal or the remake of the karate kid at the same time ?

overall , midnight special is probably one of the best sci - fi films you ' ll see this year . a simple but touching story , told efficiently and elegantly , with a strong cast - that clocks in under two hours and isn ' t part of a wider universe or following on from a sequel . when was the last time you could say that about a sci - fi film ?

which brings us back to the rocky horror picture show , and back to hobart , indiana . while other key films from the golden age of midnight movies still get brought out for the occasional showing , most are solely home - video fixtures . rocky horror remains a theatrical draw even after appearing on vhs , dvd , and blu - ray , being broadcast on cable networks from vh1 to logo , and glee . if a proposed tv remake ever happens , it will almost certainly survive that , too . why ? the harder i’ve looked for a simple answer , the more that answer has eluded me . alexander degman , a member of the help me mommy cast , even confessed to me he didn’t like the movie . " i like everything else . " degman says of the film itself , " whether it’s good or bad or indifferent , it’s people putting dedication into something . it’s people having a passion for something and just getting people to do something else other than sitting in front of the computer playing video games all night long . "

common guest confusion . there are often times when our guests book for midnight screenings , but turn up for the wrong day , normally the following day . for example , for a screening listed as friday 6th 00 : 15 , we sometimes have guests come to the cinema late friday night , for a performance into saturday morning . this of course is not correct , and leads the guest having missed their film .

the moment had arrived , in other words , for the underground to go overground , and a few key titles pushed it there . george romero’s groundbreaking zombie film night of the living dead found a second life , appropriately enough , at midnight . alejandro jodorowsky’s violent western fantasia el topo played for appreciative , often stoned crowds . so did early john waters outrages like pink flamingos and female trouble . tod browning’s 1932 film freaks found new life in midnight revival screenings , and 1973’s the harder they come helped popularize reggae outside jamaica . in some respects , the films had little in common . the blackly comic sensibility at the heart of waters’ films shares little with the outré stylishness of el topo . yet an anti - authoritarian streak runs through all of them , one that resonated with counterculture audiences as one decade gave way to the next .

follows the lives of the inhabitants of a small town where the concept of normal is relative . a haven for vampires , witches , psychics , hit men , and others with extraordinary backgrounds , midnight gives outsiders a place to belong . the town members form a strong and unlikely family as they work together to fend off the pressures of unruly biker gangs , questionable police officers , and shades of their own dangerous pasts .

very often , the fantastical elements are brought to the fore . focus isn ' t necessarily given to the story so much as it ' s given over to how strange and wonderful it all is . there ' s a simple reason for that , of course . advances in cgi has meant that filmmakers can now have their wildest , most fantastical imaginations realised with little or no expense . as we know , it wasn ' t always that way . directors had to be smarter and tell the story more imaginatively in order to get the point across . john carpenter ' s starman is a perfect example of this and , in a lot of ways , midnight special shares common dna with starman . the difference here , of course , is that starman was released in 1984 and midnight special is due for release in the middle of 2016 .

a very good film , and really worth a watch . i have a feeling that viewers will have a range of views , as it may work very well for some , and not so for others . i felt that the spaces between the story telling were a little too vacant at the start of the movie , but tightened up well towards to end . i was also little unsure of the father ' s role early on in the film ; i thought he was some sort of criminal , which led to a lack of empathy for him at the start , but as soon as i worked out he was one of the good guys , all was well . a great piece of work by the director overall .

i was at the closing night of the toho cinema . the film they showed was kurosawa’s ikiru…to live…with takashi shimura . a clerk finds out he is dying of cancer and builds a children’s park , to give something back . the movie ends with him on a swing in his park , humming a sad little tune , accompanied by the sobbing of 600 people in the theater , myself included . in the lobby were posters of the great kurosawa films they had shown . the entire staff of the theater was in japanese ceremonial dress . they thanked each person individually for attending . auld lang syne was played over the loudspeaker . people were literally staggering , blinded by tears , clutching onto walls and railings . years later i met someone who had been at the same performance . we agreed that seldom in our lives did we feel as close to suicide .

jan 1 , 2007 : sue blane , rhs , rhps and shock treatment costume designer , receives an mbe ( members of the order of the british empire ) award for services to drama . may 11 - 12 , 2007 : the downhome decadence cast in huntington , wv , holds the we are . . . rocky ! convention , with performances of rhps , shock treatment and phantom of the paradise . jul 26 - 29 , 2007 : midnight insanity in long beach , ca , holds the pirates of transylvania convention , with performances of rhps and shock treatment . sal piro is in attendance .

welcome to a place where being normal is really quite strange . from niels arden oplev , the visionary director of " mr . robot , " and based on the hit book series from author charlaine harris ( " true blood " ) , comes a journey into a remote texas town where no one is who they seem . from vampires and witches to psychics and hit men , midnight is a mysterious safe haven for those who are different . as the town members fight off outside pressures from rowdy biker gangs , ever - suspicious cops and their own dangerous pasts , they band together and form a strong and unlikely family .

midnight special has all the makings of a great film but can just as easily be written off as pretentious dribble . an amazing cast , sensible script and believable dialogue dresses up a seemingly biblical tale that illustrates the existence of a supernatural race and a child ' s destiny to join them . perhaps it ' s a story about parental love , or the second coming of christ , or aliens , the list goes on . whatever it is it ' s clearly beyond our scope of understanding . and i suppose that ' s the point , we ' re not meant to " get it " but such mythical themes can only be so shrouded before it ' s seen as senseless .

it’s midnight in hobart , indiana , and the auditorium of the cozy , single - screen art theatre is echoing with the sounds of cartoon characters in the throes of passion . one orgasm follows another — first marge simpson then bugs bunny — as first - time attendees to the art’s weekly screening of the rocky horror picture show go through a variation on a ritual that’s taken place for nearly 40 years : the hazing of the " virgins . " ( virgins under 18 get off the hook this particular night , due to the risqué nature of the initiation . ) it’s not a packed house , but it’s lively as about 35 attendees , many of them regulars , file in and wait for the show to start , both on the screen and off .

unlike jj abrams ' super 8 , midnight special isn ' t so much a pastiche of ' 80s sci - fi adventures as it feels like it could have been made in that era . the special effects are minimalist and in - camera , save for a few scenes here and there . nothing feels extraneous and the film moves at a steady and rhythmic pace . the various stop - offs along their journey feel genuine and logical and those chasing them , as well , adhere to the same . jeff nichols ' eye for cinematography and setting up a shot still holds true here . unlike his previous effort , the also - excellent mud , there ' s less emphasis on staging a scene so much as it ' s effortlessly elegant - again , a lot like john carpenter . even the soundtrack sounds like it came from the era , all synths and random sounds with a real sense of atmosphere to it .

sep 23 - 25 , 2010 : the los angeles , ca rhps cast , sins o ' the flesh , hosts 7 deadly sins con in downtown los angeles , with showings of clue , shock treatment and rhps . cliff de young , jessica harper , lou adler , john goldstone , barry bostwick , and sal piro all make appearances . oct 18 , 2010 : new rumors of a rhps remake surface , this time with glee creator ryan murphy as director . oct 19 , 2010 : rhps is released on high - definition blu - ray in the us , with a 1 . 66 : 1 transfer from a 4k / 2k scan of the original camera negative , newly - mixed 7 . 1 dts - hd ma surround track , and a mono track . the 7 - song soundtrack album for fox ' s glee episode the rocky horror glee show is also released the same day . oct 26 , 2010 : the rocky horror glee show is aired on the fox network . oct 28 , 2010 : a special rhps event is held at the wiltern theatre in los angeles , ca , to benefit the painted turtle . the nda cast , along with khasan brailsford , danny devito , jorge garcia , lucas grabeel , melora hardin , ricki lake , george lopez , julian mcmahon , lea michele , matthew morrison , jack nicholson , nicole scherzinger , and evan rachel wood perform the show . tim curry , barry bostwick , and lou adler are also in attendance , as well as jami gertz and burt bacharach . oct 31 , 2010 : west hollywood , ca holds its annual halloween carnaval with a rocky horror picture show theme . 8 , 239 people are recorded as dancing the time warp , breaking all previous guinness book records . on the same day , fox movie channel holds a 24 - hour marathon of rhps .

in 1982 , architect hugh hardy was hired to convert the completely gutted interior of the elgin theater into a 472 - seat dance performance space , while preserving and restoring the beautiful moderne facade and marquee of the theater .

the venue was renamed the joyce theater , for the daughter of one of the main benefactors of the renovation of the theater . today the joyce theater is considered one of the city’s main dance performance spaces , and hosts audiences of over 140 , 000 each year .

there was a balcony , and in those days smoking was still allowed up there . there was also a house cat in residence for most of the time i worked there .

thanks , john and warren . that all adds up for me . as a nonsmoker , i would never have made my way up a full flight of stairs to the balcony to sit among smokers . but a few steps up to enjoy stadium seating back then – definitely . i was only at the elgin three or four times , always for revivals in the pre - video era . but i remember it being one of the nyc theaters where i was cold to the bone during at least winter visit . i have to assume it was run on the cheap in those final years .

it was not an overhang . the balcony was raised above the street - level lobby , which made it possible to have these extra rows . going through the balcony was also the only way to get to the projection booth .

if the theater is vacated by the dance company i am sure the building will be torn down and a new apartment complex will take its place . it’s sad but given the value of the land it is no surprise . i have no inside knowlege and am merely making an assumption .

i would have to agree with you , willburg145 . particularly since the interior was gutted and only the facade remains intact .

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every time i attend a dance performance at the joyce i always think of the elgin . among the many movies i saw there i will always most strongly associate this theater with the first time i saw “el topo . ” never saw ‘rocky horror " there , having burnt out on that experience at the 8th st , . playhouse .

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anubhoothi <EOT> malayalam full movie | | anubhoothi | movie ft . suresh gopi , khushboo , vani vishwanath

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foreign affaires is a 1935 british comedy film directed by and starring tom walls .

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foreign affaires <EOT> we don ' t have enough data to suggest any movies based on foreign affaires . you can help by rating movies you ' ve seen .

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by this time , having exhausted most of the aldwych farces , written by ben travers for the stage , travers and his star cast headed by tom walls ( who also directed ) and ralph lynn moved on to original pieces written for the cinema . foreign affaires may not have had it origins on the stage , but it may as well have done and is no more cinematic the earlier films .

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thank you , scott , and sheila , and ely . thank all of you on the call . and i look forward to many future calls where we’re not yet incinerated but can discuss the ongoing american foreign policy agenda with similar degrees of rationality and substance . thank you all .

we have a wonderful group today to discuss this with . ely ratner , the maurice greenberg senior fellow for china studies at the council on foreign relations , just recent came from the vice president’s staff where he handled these issues in the government . sheila smith , senior fellow for japan studies at the council on foreign relations , one of the leading experts on east asian security issues and general sort of questions like this . scott snyder , senior fellow for korea studies and director of the program on u . s . - korea policy at cfr , long - time north korea expert and writer on this .

rose : thank you all . you know , these are—we’re living through interesting times , as the old saying goes . we’re all feeling our way . and it’s delightful to be able to take advantage of the resources of the council on foreign affairs to have a discussion among rational people who know what they’re talking about and can enlighten us all , and maybe lead us to feel a little bit less crazy going into the weekend .

rose : great . i should just put in a plug for the next issue of foreign affairs , by the way , that’ll be appearing in all of your mailboxes very soon . the lead package is on how the allies , how u . s . allies , are responding to the trump administration , including japan and australia and the european allies , canada , mexico . so it’s a really interesting look at exactly that dilemma of what does it mean to be an american ally in the trump era , and how do you deal with what’s going on ? very interesting package .

smith : so , for japan—and it’s slightly different than south korea , so i’ll defter to scott on south korea . but in japan , there is very little public support for a nuclear option for japan . so it was a shock when the u . s . , as japan’s main ally and provider of extended deterrence , started to—a candidate for the presidency started talking about japan sooner or later ought to get a nuclear weapon . well , the foreign ministry immediately went public and said we are signatories to the npt ; we do not embrace a nuclear option for japan’s security ; we embrace a strong and solid u . s . - japan alliance . so i don’t see demand in japan for consideration of that option . south korea , the politics are different .

snyder : mainly , domestically , i think the moon administration is constrained because they have minority control in their national assembly , and they’re also constrained by the international environment . you know , moon really is ideologically predisposed to follow progressive administrations , including roh moo - hyun , where he worked as chief of staff , but that’s simply not an option given the rising north korea threat . and so , as a result , we saw that he basically embedded himself in the u . s . - korea alliance , stated that he agreed with president trump on many issues related to north korea in advance of his visit to washington . and , in fact , it’s increasingly hard to say that the south korean foreign policy under moon is really dramatically different from some of his conservative predecessors .

so i think the degree to which this is starting to constrain china’s own strategic space is increasing . and as a result of that , the chinese have been willing to sign up to much more significant u . n . security council sanctions over time . the resolution that passed unanimously , which they agreed to just in the last few weeks , would have been completely unexpected even of a couple years ago , banning some of these major commodities . so clearly they’re being willing to exert more pressure on north korea . by all accounts , the north korea issue the hottest foreign policy issue in beijing , and one where they’re probably more willing to evolve where they’ve been in the past . whereas , on issues like the south china sea or taiwan , there’s a consensus view that’s very entrenched . not so on north korea .

so , ely , the upshot of this crisis , if it plays out the way you guys are essentially describing , will be that i think people will take the president’s tweets even less seriously than they have been . and i wonder whether this will ultimately be something like the transgender policy tweet , in which his own military repudiated the commander in chief , essentially , by saying we’re not going to follow his tweet as policy until we get further details , and everyone sort of realized that you didn’t have to take the tweet seriously . is the upshot of all of this going to be that sort of essentially the “fire and fury” tweet , you know , everyone’s going to say , well , that’s just trump tweeting , and we’ll solve the crisis in the normal way with tillerson and mattis and everybody else negotiating , and so forth ? but if that happens , what does that mean for the future of u . s . foreign policy if the president of the united states’ direct communications to the world and to everybody are no longer taken seriously ?

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rose : hi , everybody . and welcome to our conference call , understanding north korea’s escalating threat . i’m really sorry about the slowness in starting up . we had so much interest in this call we are—our systems are overwhelmed . but now we’ve got everybody on , so we’re ready to go .

so we have the people we need to inform us about the situation , and calm up down , perhaps , but also scare us in other ways . ( laughs . ) so i’m—hold on a second . ( background noise . ) that was a ( n ) unplanned presence .

why is this crisis different from all other crises ? right now we seem to be on the brink of potential nuclear war , or at least that’s the way the papers are playing it and cable tv is stressing it . is this actually any different from all the other korea crises that basically get resolved calmly without escalating ? so , first things first , how scared should we be ? let’s start with ely , then go to sheila , then go to scott .

ratner : i guess my quick answer would be , i wouldn’t be too scared yet . i think the president’s comments were irresponsible . it does do damage to his credibility . and there is potential for escalation , but i think comparisons to the cuban missile crisis are way overblown . i don’t think we’re on the brink of a nuclear war . there’s very little indication that what the president said reflects an actual policy decision within the white house to pursue preemptive war .

and i think it’s quite important that both secretary mattis and secretary tillerson came out within 24 hours , without directly contradicting the president , but seeking to dial down the temperature and bring us back to a very traditional u . s . - north korea policy of deterrence and reassurance and pressure , and leaving the door open for diplomacy . so the policy itself looks business as usual , thought the rhetoric is potentially destabilizing .

rose : sheila , your take . do you agree with ely on that ? can we breathe a little more easily , and ?

smith : i do . i think what has freaked everybody out—to use academic language— ( laughs ) —is the language that our president used . it is not the way that our presidents normally address the situation . we’re supposed to be the adults in the room and we’re supposed to be the stabilizer when it comes to north korea . and our allies in the region look to us to play that role .

i think what’s different , and where we ought to pay attention to the real policy needs of this administration , is it’s clear that during this administration north korea will have acquired capabilities that it did not have in the last administration . i don’t want to talk about slow boiling frogs and things like that , but we’ve all known that . and our military leaders have known this , our technical experts have known this , that we’re headed to a point where north korea has a functioning icbm capable of having a nuclear warhead .

that could be this administration or it could be slightly after it , but we are quickly coming to the point where we’re going to have to think very carefully about how we want to defend and deter our allies at that moment . and i think the united states—you know , it’s important that we understand that it’s not just about us . it’s about south koreans and japanese . and it’s , frankly , about the future stability of asia .

rose : great . scott , let’s pick up from that point . wasn’t this rubicon crossed a decade ago when the bush administration let north korea go nuclear . so why do the additional developments in their nuclear and missile programs change the strategic calculus ? i mean , if they can already blow up guam or hawaii , why does it matter if they can blow up alaska or california ? so realistically , even if the changes that sheila just described , or the improvements in their wmd programs—north korean wmd programs occur over the next few years , why will that change the situation and make the older policies we’ve been relying on no longer applicable ?

snyder : well , i think that the major development that is driving concern is related to the missile development program , clearly . we’ve lived with a nuclear north korea for over a decade , as you mentioned . but we really haven’t had a debate or a final decision over where the red line is for what we can tolerate in terms of vulnerability to north korea . and so we see the president suggesting that it’s unacceptable for them to have the capability , but we’ve also lived with vulnerability to enemies with nuclear weapons for decades . and so i think that that debate is unfolding now . and it also interact with this unsolved question of , you know , how exactly do we draw the line and send the signal to north korea that enough is enough ?

rose : ok . now we cycle back to ely . ely , it seems to me , being a little bit of an agent provocateur , that there’s a difference between how the strategic community looks at this and how the public looks at this .

i think a lot of people in the strategic community kind of take for granted that we’re not going to be able to roll back the north korean weapons program , and the best thing we can realistically hope for at this point is sort of a deter - and - contain model . and they’re actually somewhat comfortable with that—not happy about it , but , you know , we’ve done it for six decades , and we’ve done nuclear - ly for another decade , and we can keep doing it .

but it seems like the public and the politicians aren’t really comfortable with the idea that essentially at this point we have no choice but to trust the pyongyang regime with nukes . is this really a distinction between how the professionals and the public looks at things ?

ratner : well , i think a lot of that has to do with our leadership and our political leadership . and i think i personally am critical of the degree to which not only the president but others within his administration have essentially lifted this up and describe it as the most urgent national - security threat to the united states ; members of his—he himself saying in a tweet months ago it will not happen in terms of their development ; other members of congress saying this is intolerable ; this is unacceptable . and that not only raises the expectations for the american people but then pushes them into the—into a corner from a political perspective .

so i do think the—the rhetoric from this administration in particular has been overhyped . and we’re seeing that reflected now in the media . and , frankly , i think some of our colleagues here in washington in the analyst community have fed that as well . so i think it starts with the president , and that’s why his rhetoric isn’t helping

i think what secretary tillerson tried to do on his way , ironically , in the air to guam , to suggest americans should be sleeping comfortable at night is the right message from our political leadership . and frankly we need more of that .

rose : sheila , so i’m delighted we have you on , just for you but also for the japanese perspective , because it’s not always taken into account in these discussions . this is obviously not just a u . s . - north korea thing or even a u . s . - north korea - south korea problem . and it’s not even just a u . s . - north korea - south korea - japan problem . it’s a more complex regional security issue .

so the messaging is really difficult , because there are a lot of different audiences and a lot of different goals . rich lowry in politico today writes that this administration has something for everyone . you can choose the president’s bellicosity , the secretary of defense’s firmness , or the secretary of state’s palaver . which reflects the true administration posture ? who knows ? does the trump administration ? how are american allies and regional actors more generally reacting to the situation in which the messaging out of washington is so confused ?

smith : well , there’s two pieces of this puzzle that , again , i think are important for the japanese . let me just stick with the japanese for a second . and that is , in any transition of american administration , there’s a certain amount of getting to know you and then getting to know who you’re going to be working with at the alliance management level , which is the day - to - day working level .

we don’t have a lot of people at that level of alliance management in either the department of defense or the department of state . so the assistant - secretary positions are not yet filled . so the regular stabilizing dialogue that would happen daily , right , between our two governments and the japanese and american government on how are you treating this and how are you reacting to data , what’s next , that level is quiet and silent and not there to bolster whatever the trump administration strategy is , right .

second , we have the uncertainty about u . s . thinking . and i think we’ve all pointed that out , that there is a little bit lack of clarity and a little bit of hopeful thinking that there is actually , as i think ely and both scott maybe have said this , is that it’s business as usual ; we are treating this difficult problem in the way we’ve always tried to treat this difficult problem , right—raise sanctions , coercion , try to get them to the table , make sure defenses and deterrence are working .

so that’s the way the japanese would like to see the play . but here’s one piece of the japan puzzle that i think most americans don’t quite grasp , and that is that the missile program now brings japan under threat . and the north koreans have made it very , very clear that they want to make the japanese understand the extent of that threat and the insufficiency of the steps they’ve taken so far in terms of ballistic missile defense . japan does not , as you know , have offensive capability . it can’t strike back . but you’re beginning to see in the japanese government , and indeed the ministry of defense today is one of the main advocates of japan gaining conventional strike . is that a hedge against the united states ? well , that’s not what they’re saying . they’re saying it’s helping to bolster the current . but you’re seeing some shifting thinking in japan that’s pretty significant for the regional balance .

rose : sheila , in the—during the campaign , of course , the republican candidate made some suggestions along these lines , suggesting that in fact a south korean and the japanese nuclear capability might be an appropriate response . they’ve walked that back in practice and there’s been no follow up , but is there a memory in the region of those comments ? and do those have any sort of presence in the back of people’s minds ?

rose : scott , talk to us about south korean politics for a second . what are they thinking through all this ?

snyder : well , with regard to acquisition of a nuclear weapon , actually there is strong public support for the idea that south korea should get a nuclear capability to match that of the north , and we’re seeing increasingly a number of politicians voicing that as well . but overall , the attitude of the government is that getting a nuclear capability would entail unnecessary risk and would be highly costly . basically , they’d be following north korea’s path to isolation in terms of economic retribution and responses that would be very damaging , given south korea’s high trade dependence .

the current moon administration really wanted to find a way to engage with north korea . they’d like to see the tensions tamped down . even yesterday , their national security council called for dialogue . but every single initiative that the new president has put forward toward north korea , the north koreans have popped those trial balloons . and so it’s pretty clear that the north koreans are really focused on the u . s . right now and on trying to extend their nuclear capabilities .

rose : scott , actually , a question to follow up on that . there’s been a lot of turmoil in south korean politics recently , shall we say . is any of that relevant here , or does it affect how the south is going to respond during this kind of crisis ? or is that just a separate issue , the domestic political situation ?

ely , back to you . let’s turn to china . what’s the chinese role in all this ? can it change ? will it change ? how significant a player has anything done—what’s happening on that front ?

ratner : well , the chinese position on north korea , in a sense , has been static for many years , and in a sense has been evolving quickly . and what i mean by that is that the fundamental strategic dilemma that china has faced , which is that although it would like to see a denuclearized north korea , it is not willing to risk instability on the peninsula to achieve that . and so that has bound its willingness to assert pressure on north korea , to the point that it could lead to the toppling of the regime .

i think that strategic fact remains a huge constraint on chinese behavior . at the same time , north korea’s behavior has—or , north korea itself has become increasingly a strategic liability for china in terms of bringing the united states military close to china’s borders , strengthening its posture and presence in northeast asia , strengthening trilateral cooperation between the united states , japan and south korea , and enhancing the defensive missile defense capabilities of south korea and japan , as well as some of the discussions that scott and sheila mentioned about enhancing offensive , or initiating offensive capabilities in japan’s case .

and it may be the case that if north korea follows down this path , for instance testing additional nuclear weapons , that china may even be willing to go further . and the fact that they’ve signaled that to the trump administration i think is one of the reasons why the trump administration has continued to try to bring them along in this process , which they’ve been willing to do . so they’re still a major player , but at the same time they’re not holding the cards , because they don’t have a lot of political influence over north korea . and clearly they’re not going to be able to constrain donald trump . so they’re calling for calm , as they always do . but i think they’re worried that either the north koreans or the trump administration could escalate this beyond control .

scott , let’s turn to you for a second . how does this play out over the next few days and weeks ahead ? not what should happen , but what happens .

snyder : over the course of the next two weeks i expect tensions to escalate , actually , because the north koreans have pledged to conduct a new demonstration over their missile capabilities in the direction of guam . and the united states is going to be conducting , with south korea , joint military exercises during the last two weeks of august . this is always a sensitive issue , but it is more hair - trigger as the north koreans are very sensitive to the likely additional nuclear - capable aircraft flyovers .

subsequent to that , the real issue is can we find a kind of exit ramp from the crisis ? and i think that secretary tillerson has certainly tried to lay some foundations for that . and maybe the north koreans also will come to the realization that there’s a limit to how far they should push . in fact , years ago there was an intra - korean crisis that ended up resulting in negotiations . and so that provides hope for where kim jong - un might go .

rose : a friend of mine in grad school always suggested to me the idea of having a counter - cyclical hedge fund that would bet against volatility based on south korea—or , south china sea crises , indo - pak crises , and korea crises , on the grounds they always spiked up and always resolved . and you could make money betting against everybody else’s hysteria . and it’s worked out pretty well over the years .

sheila , let me go back to you for a question about extended deterrence .

rose : the europeans have grappled with the question of whether the u . s . would actually live up to its promises to protect them over the years . the french , of course , maintain their own nuclear program over worry that we wouldn’t , supposedly . isn’t the question of whether we would in fact die for , you know , yokohama or whatever , a class cold war extended deterrence question that will be dealt with in the ways these things have always been dealt with , regardless of the developments of north korean missiles ?

smith : so , you know , the interesting thing about the extended deterrence literature , for any ir folks , right , is that it is largely based on european experience , right ? it’s largely based on the land war , the scenario of nato versus warsaw pact , and the horizontal escalation and vertical—all those—all those scenarios that were played out , even with the inf deployments by the soviets , right , at the end of the cold war . and asia has never really been in the picture , right ? there hasn’t been a healthy debate in japan about what constitutes an effective extended deterrent . and japan’s own constitution , of course , and the japanese public sort of nuclear allergy , has really—has basically said , you know , the japanese public is not interested in an overt conversation about what’s an effective nuclear umbrella .

but today i think you’re starting to see that conversation come to the surface a little bit more frequently in japan . what is it that the united states has to do ? does it need more troops in the region ? does it need signaling and the kind of exercises that scott was talking about , for example ? in all these ways , i think the japanese government is starting to have to tell its public that , yes , the americans are here ; and , yes , they’re with us . so you see these frequent trips by secretary tillerson . the early trip by secretary mattis meant a lot to the japanese , right ? so there’s the politics of telling your public , right , that the americans will come if we need them .

the bigger question , as you said , is this question of , well , what happens when the north koreans do have a capability to put los angeles at risk , or tokyo , or yokohama , or whatever ? and that will raise an existential question for the japanese on their strategic dependence on us . will it change their preferences ? no . i think it will bring japan closer to the united states , and will start probably to incentivize , you know , some kinds of changes that have been difficult in japan .

i think it’s important to remember the u . s . - japan alliance militarily is not structured the same , for example , as the u . s . - rok alliance or nato . we don’t have a joint command in that bilateral alliance . we don’t have a warfighting strategy that’s an alliance warfighting strategy . the japanese have kept their military close to home and have kept them out of those kinds of arrangements with us until very recently .

so you are starting to see , i think , some serious thought to how do we plan effectively in the alliance . and prime minister abe , as you know , reinterpreted the japanese constitution to allow the japanese military to work alongside the u . s . in areas just like this . so what we’re seeing today is the very first example of what u . s . and japanese militaries would do together in ballistic missile defense operations , for example .

rose : well , so that’s actually a silver lining to this , like , in the sense that sort of we’ll actually make more practical defense arrangements and military planning because we’re now actually scared .

smith : exactly . and i think the japanese today are—and it’s not just about mr . abe , although he is far more hawkish on some ways on the military issues than some previous prime ministers . but these are—these are reforms that have been in the making for a couple of decades , and they’re largely driven by the north korean example and behavior .

rose : great . let me just close my section of this with one more question to you guys—i’ll give it to ely first , but for everyone to jump in—and then turn it over for q & a .

ratner : well , i would hope that the upshot of this current situation is that the administration understands—and perhaps with general kelly as chief of staff—that it’s important that they’re speaking with one voice , and that they actually develop a coherent strategy . and as i understand it , members of the president’s national security team are heading out , many of them today , up to new jersey . some of them are already up there and others heading up tomorrow , specifically to meet and talk about and try to coordinate on north korea .

so i—you know , no one’s going to stop trump from being trump . but i think , given the severity of this issue , i’m hoping that they’ll at least come up with a coordinated approach and a coordinated messaging strategy that will achieve the goals of talking to the many voices that you articulated—to the chinese , to the south koreans , japanese , and to the north koreans , and to the american people as well . so hopefully there will be a call for coordination here , which is desperately needed .

rose : so they’re all heading up to the golf club to hopefully declare the tweet a mulligan .

ok . so , on that note , let’s turn this over to discussion with our wonderful participants on the phone . i’d like to remind you that this conference call is on the record . please limit yourself to one question . and keep it concise because we have a whole lot of people on this call . and the operator will give you instructions .

ladies and gentlemen , at this time we would like to open the floor for questions .

i’ll be traveling to tokyo and seoul and china at the end of month , and was listening with great interest . the question specifically is what do you expect to see coming out of south korea ? there had been an expression of interest in renewal of elements of the sunshine policy . how are they likely to be reacting and responding in terms of their policies toward the north ?

so far the moon jae - in administration has—continues to try to tempt the north with dialogue offers . but so far the north koreans are simply not taking them up . and so that’s a big problem for the moon administration , because basically what they’re learning is that you really can’t have a kind of sunshine policy or an engagement policy if the other side is not only unwilling to engage but continues to pursue activity that ends up being a direct threat to your national security .

we’ll see whether there is some kind of response by the north , but i actually believe that north korea is going to have to make some structural changes in order to be able to engage the south . the main interlocutor on north korea in charge of south korea policy is a military man , not somebody who has any experience negotiating .

operator : thank you . our next question will come from paul heer , george washington university .

there was a reference to secretary tillerson’s statements earlier this week . one of the things he did was to offer talks to pyongyang if it behaved . he made this offer apparently as if pyongyang wants to talk to us and there’s agreement on what to talk .

rose : by the way , hold on one second . before we answer that question—and i’m happy to get into that question—paul , as a major long - term u . s . - china intelligence specialist , do you have anything to add on the chinese angle in this , like anything new ? or does this remind you of all the stuff in the past ?

q : ( laughs . ) oh , i don’t want to take up another hour of your time . i’ll just say that i think the chinese are going to—i agree with ely . the chinese are unwilling to assume risks that they don’t perceive we’re willing to assume ourselves .

i mean , i think there’s a pretty compelling need for more effective direct communication and dialogue between the u . s . and north korea , given the war of words that has ensued , if for no other reason than to try to minimize the prospect of miscalculation . but whether or not that’s going to lead to any kind of resolution of the north korean nuclear issue , i’m pretty skeptical that we’re going to make very much progress . it’ll be an issue that remains with us for a long time .

ratner : yeah , i would just add—sorry , this is ely—i would just add , paul , it’s a good question , because i think there are a lot of people who are interested in the negotiations track , but it’s unclear even what the initial steps of that negotiation would look like .

and if , for instance , you take one of the proposals that the chinese have put on the table now for almost a year , what they call a freeze - for - freeze proposal , where the north koreans would freeze their program and in return the united states would freeze or cancel or reduce some of its military exercises with south korea , on both accounts neither side appears willing to even take what a lot of people would consider to be an initial first step , that the north koreans do not appear interested in this point of curbing their program , and the trump administration—and , frankly , the same for the obama administration—was not interested in trading down our military readiness for getting into talks with north korea .

so on neither side is there , i think , a clear understanding of what the concessions would be . so i agree with scott that , you know , i personally would be in favor in some—in favor of some sort of dialogue , but it’s unclear what even the first couple of steps of going toward some stabilizing agreement would look like at this point , unfortunately .

operator : thank you . our next question will come from lee cullum , north texas public media .

q : thank you very much . i am interested in what’s happened to thaad , the terminal high altitude area defense . when i was in incheon on june , the new president , moon jae - in , had a lot—well , two of the launchers had been installed , but he postponed the other four pending an environmental study . what’s happening ? is it still in limbo ?

snyder : the thaad deployment—so , this is scott snyder . the korean administration has gone forward with authorizing on a temporary basis the deployment of the remaining components of that system , following the second icbm test . i think there are a lot of people who—on the u . s . side—who would have liked to see that move occur after the july 4th test . but presumably , the batteries are—the components are being put into place . and the remaining components should be operational for now . they will continue with an environmental study while the unit is fully deployed .

rose : thanks , lee . always good to talk to you . next question .

operator : thank you . our next question will come from michael mosettig , pbs online newshour .

q : i guess this is— ( coughs ) —excuse me—for ely . even with sheila’s caveats about japanese public and political opinion about going nuclear , isn’t this the one thing that might change china’s strategic calculation , and particularly since they tend to think longer term ? because technically , it wouldn’t take very long if japan made that—made that decision . is this the one thing that might get china off the dime ?

ratner : i don’t know if it’s the one thing , and i don’t think we should necessarily think of it as a—as a card we would play , certainly not separate from japanese government and public opinion . but it is among the types of things that i would put in the category of a much deeper , enhanced , trilateral alliance or the united states being interested in some sort of destabilizing , decapitation or regime change . that would be in the category of things that if china thought was really about to happen that they may be willing to rethink their—how they balance stability with denuclearization . but we’re not there yet . but i think you’re right to identify it as something that would raise a lot of eyebrows and a lot of concerns in beijing .

operator : thank you . our next question will come from peter behr , ee news .

rose : good point , because , of course , the—with the sony hack , the north koreas already have done offensive cyberwarfare against american targets , even if it’s commercial . anything likely to follow on that front ?

snyder : well , with regards to north korea’s cyber capabilities—this is scott snyder—we know that they have about 5 ( , 000 ) to 6 , 000 personnel deployed in the cyber area . many of them—many of the threats have been emanating from outside of north korea . i think we can anticipate that there would be continued activity , especially actually in the commercial area more recently , since the sony hack , with regards to an attack on infrastructure . we don’t—so far , the main infrastructural attack using cyber with north korea was on the south korean banking system in advance of the sony hack . but it’s reasonable to suggest that there’s a need for defense in that area .

and with regard to an emp , that’s an interesting question that comes up from time to time , but has not really gotten nearly as extensive focus as the possibility of nuclear use . and so i—it’s an interesting question whether or not there’s a distinction there , or whether the damage would be so great that the u . s . would respond to the extent possible in the same fashion that it has stated it would respond in the event of nuclear use by north korea .

so there’s been a lot in the media , and there’s a little bit of it in the japanese press , that kind of acts as an echo chamber of our media conversation about the madman theory , right . and that is , you know , that this is—we know now that it probably wasn’t a deliberate use of this kind of language by the president , but the idea is that you ratchet up the rhetoric in an effort to say , you know , we really can’t control the president . we really can’t control his thinking on this issue . you’d better get in line or you’d better get to the negotiating table .

i think , in some ways , that is—for our allies in particular , that’s a little bit of a dangerous strategy and not a comfortable one for japan , i would say , at least . i’m not sure that people attribute that , right , to president trump anymore . i think our media has kind of discounted that notion , that this is a coherent strategy . but i don’t think the madman theory is comforting to allies and others who , again , as i said at the beginning , depend on us for a particularly important stabilizing role , especially when it comes to considering the use of nuclear weapons . i don’t think the japanese would buy in to an alliance strategy that had an erratic american , you know , rhetoric at its core .

and i think therein lies our challenge . again , gideon asked me earlier about extended deterrence . you do need your allies’ buy - in to how you’re going to effectively operate together to a regional threat . and so therein i , like you , think that rhetoric matters , but i don’t think that where we are at the moment is a very healthy course .

my question has to do with the exit ramp . scott , you raised the—how we might find an exit ramp . and i wondered if you or one of the other speakers would care to pick up on that . is it clear to you that the u . s . wants to find an exit ramp from the current crisis ? and are there specific things you’d put under consideration , particularly , as you mentioned , as we head into two weeks where other factors may contribute to things heating up rather than ratcheting back ?

i mean , i think the—you know , what i would argue is that the exit ramp is to get into some kind of negotiated solution , but that the time for that is not yet ripe because neither the chinese nor the north koreans are at the point yet where they’re willing to make the kind of serious concessions that we would need to get into that kind of discussion .

so i actually think that the trump administration , at the end of the day , although they don’t describe it as such , that what they’re doing is they’re pursuing a maximum - pressure strategy with , frankly , a sanctions regime that is unprecedented . this isn’t old wine in new bottles . this is a level of pressure that we haven’t seen yet , not because necessarily it will bend and twist kim jong - un’s arm to accept denuclearization , but that it’ll increase american leverage to get into a set of negotiations in which it can use either enhanced pressure on north korea or have more chits , then dial back as concessions to get into negotiations . so i think we’re heading down the right road . i think the—again , the sort of—the bluster and the hype and the hystericalness that could lead to escalation is totally unwarranted .

i think there is a fairly considered policy that’s running underneath all that noise , that’s heading down a comprehensive pressure strategy . and i think the question is , do we have enough time for that to work before either the president or north korea does something that really destabilizes the situation . but i think if we could get down that path , we could at least catch the proposition that there may be a negotiated solution where both the united states and north korea would find an acceptable set of measures to get us off of the crisis footing .

operator : our next question will come from monica yue ( sp ) , voice of america .

so my question is , you know , trump administration , several months ago they said that all options are on the table , including military options . so now will military option—or , can military option be an option for the united states ? and how china and north korea calculate u . s . military options ? thank you .