In clinical trials, the most compelling data for Group Appointments providing superior control of HemoglobinAA1C come from Drs. Trento and Porta, University of Turin, Italy. Patients who attended structured Group Appointments decreased their HbA1C by 0.9% (Effect size 0.56) compared with control group counterparts. There are a number of differences between these studies and what the investigators propose. First, studies in Turin and around Italy took place in 'hospital-based clinics', not regular primary care settings. Second, participants in the Turin studies were 64years, on average -younger than in our proposed study. Third, Turin studies did not include a generic quality of life measure (e.g. EQ-5D) and did not estimate health utilities. Fourth, health economic implications cannot be extrapolated from the Italian to the Canadian health system.