This study is a single center prospective study at the Mayo Clinic, Rochester. The study will enroll 200 eligible subjects and follow for 12 months. 50 pacemaker subjects will be randomized to right ventricular apex pacing 50 pacemaker subjects will be randomized to right ventricular septum pacing 50 pacemaker subjects will be randomized to left ventricular pacing via coronary sinus 50 ICD subjects will be enrolled with right ventricular apex pacing.