user16453: What lasts longer: the Cheesburger or a perception of it?

What's more real? Where to put into de-veloping?

user14789: asking what is real or not is a worthless question clung to by philosophers addicted to rupa who fail to see that the other aggregates are more important.
What matters is what you do with vedana, sanna, vinnana, rupa and sankharas, ie to view them with sati, right view, panna and so on.

user8157: Asking what is real or not is a worthless question clung to by philosophers. The suttas say:

I will not engage in talk that is base, vulgar, common, ignoble,
  unbeneficial, that does not lead to disenchantment, dispassion,
  cessation, calm, direct knowledge, self-awakening, or Unbinding —
  i.e., talk about kings, robbers & ministers of state; armies, alarms,
  & battles; food & drink; clothing, furniture, garlands, & scents;
  relatives; vehicles; villages, towns, cities, the countryside; women &
  heroes; the gossip of the street & the well; tales of the dead; tales
  of diversity, the creation of the world & of the sea; talk of whether
  things exist or not.' In this way he is alert there.
MN 122

The questions the Lord Buddha asked about cheeseburgers were: 

Are cheeseburgers permanent or impermanent?
Do cheeseburgers bring lasting happiness or are they unsatisfactory? 
Should cheeseburgers be regarded as 'This is mine. This is my self. This is what I am'?. 


16453: <p>What lasts longer: the Cheesburger or a perception of it?</p>

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<p>What's more real? Where to put into de-veloping?</p>
 14789: <p>asking what is real or not is a worthless question clung to by philosophers addicted to rupa who fail to see that the other aggregates are more important.</p>

<p>What matters is what you do with vedana, sanna, vinnana, rupa and sankharas, ie to view them with sati, right view, panna and so on.</p>
 8157: <p>Asking what is real or not is a worthless question clung to by philosophers. The suttas say:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>I will not engage in talk that is base, vulgar, common, ignoble,
  unbeneficial, that does not lead to disenchantment, dispassion,
  cessation, calm, direct knowledge, self-awakening, or Unbinding —
  i.e., talk about kings, robbers &amp; ministers of state; armies, alarms,
  &amp; battles; food &amp; drink; clothing, furniture, garlands, &amp; scents;
  relatives; vehicles; villages, towns, cities, the countryside; women &amp;
  heroes; the gossip of the street &amp; the well; tales of the dead; tales
  of diversity, the creation of the world &amp; of the sea; <strong>talk of whether
  things exist or not</strong>.' In this way he is alert there.</p>
  
  <p>MN 122</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The questions the Lord Buddha asked about cheeseburgers were: </p>

<ol>
<li><p>Are cheeseburgers permanent or impermanent?</p></li>
<li><p>Do cheeseburgers bring lasting happiness or are they unsatisfactory? </p></li>
<li><p>Should cheeseburgers be regarded as 'This is mine. This is my self. This is what I am'?. </p></li>
</ol>
