user19249: “Friend, these five faculties—each with a separate range, a separate domain, not experiencing one another’s range & domain: the eye-faculty, the ear-faculty, the nose-faculty, the tongue-faculty, & the body-faculty—have the intellect as their (common) arbitrator. The intellect is what experiences (all) their ranges & domains.”
Alternative translation for the last line:

“These five faculties, with their different scopes and ranges, have recourse to the mind. And the mind experiences their scopes and ranges.”
They are restored in the mind and it partakes the pasture commonly.
mind is the repository, and mind reacts to their pasture and range.”

what does it mean?  Is it yogacara in a nutshell?  they say mind-only, mere representation....or maybe it means that the pasture was not good enough to contain my evilness?
here is another wacky one from the wikipedia:

These internal sense bases (internal faculty) are not the gross organs
themselves (e.g., the eye, ear, etc.), but subtle matter within them.


user24505: It’s not yogacara.  It’s missing distinctive functions like store house consciousness perfuming the seed consciousnesses, etc.  And please do not view yogacara as an ontology.  It is not making any claim that the nature of the world is “mind only” or exists only in the mind.  Only the roots keeping us bound to samsara are generated by the mind alone.  Yogacara is simply a model of how we are bound and a methodology for unbinding.

user24612: Who ever would try to declare something beyond the six factulties would just fall into misery, because it lies far out of range.
Holding on them as real is common one's Alibi, home, stand, yes.

user23952: The Buddha didn't offer alibis from past wrong doings, he offered us permanent escape, and release from evil unskillful tendencies / qualities. He said we should abandon our unskillful ways. And that we should develop new and more skillful abilities / qualities. When we do this, we will discern the drawbacks and suffering caused by our old ways, and let them go more easily. It's not a matter of brute force, it's more like: from the arising of this comes the arising of that, and, from the ending of this comes the ending of that.
He says so in The Vajjian Monk - Vajjiputta Sutta  (AN 3:85):

“Monk, can you train in reference to the three trainings: the training
in heightened virtue, the training in heightened mind, the training in
heightened discernment?” “Yes, lord, I can train in reference to the
three trainings: the training in heightened virtue, the training in
heightened mind, the training in heightened discernment.”
“Then train in reference to those three trainings: the training in
heightened virtue, the training in heightened mind, the training in
heightened discernment. As you train in heightened virtue, heightened
mind, & heightened discernment, your passion, aversion, &
delusion—when trained in heightened virtue, heightened mind, &
heightened discernment—will be abandoned. You—with the abandoning of
passion, the abandoning of aversion, the abandoning of delusion—will
not do anything unskillful or engage in any evil.”

For definitions of these trainings, see AN 3:90.

19249: <p>“Friend, these five faculties—each with a separate range, a separate domain, not experiencing one another’s range &amp; domain: the eye-faculty, the ear-faculty, the nose-faculty, the tongue-faculty, &amp; the body-faculty—have the intellect as their (common) arbitrator. The intellect is what experiences (all) their ranges &amp; domains.”</p>
<p>Alternative translation for the last line:</p>
<ul>
<li>“These five faculties, with their different scopes and ranges, have recourse to the mind. And the mind experiences their scopes and ranges.”</li>
<li>They are restored in the mind and it partakes the pasture commonly.</li>
<li>mind is the repository, and mind reacts to their pasture and range.”</li>
</ul>
<p>what does it mean?  Is it yogacara in a nutshell?  they say mind-only, mere representation....or maybe it means that the pasture was not good enough to contain my evilness?</p>
<p>here is another wacky one from the wikipedia:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>These internal sense bases (internal faculty) are not the gross organs
themselves (e.g., the eye, ear, etc.), but subtle matter within them.</p>
</blockquote>
 24505: <p>It’s not yogacara.  It’s missing distinctive functions like store house consciousness perfuming the seed consciousnesses, etc.  And please do not view yogacara as an ontology.  It is not making any claim that the nature of the world is “mind only” or exists only in the mind.  Only the roots keeping us bound to samsara are generated by the mind alone.  Yogacara is simply a model of how we are bound and a methodology for unbinding.</p>
 24612: <p>Who ever would try to declare something beyond the six factulties would just fall into misery, because it lies far out of range.</p>
<p>Holding on them as real is common one's Alibi, home, stand, yes.</p>
 23952: <p>The Buddha didn't offer alibis from past wrong doings, he offered us permanent escape, and release from evil unskillful tendencies / qualities. He said we should <strong>abandon</strong> our unskillful ways. And that we should <strong>develop</strong> new and more skillful abilities / qualities. When we do this, we will discern the drawbacks and suffering caused by our old ways, and let them go more easily. It's not a matter of brute force, it's more like: <em>from the arising of this comes the arising of that</em>, and, <em>from the ending of this comes the ending of that</em>.</p>
<p>He says so in <a href="https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/AN/AN3_85.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">The Vajjian Monk - Vajjiputta Sutta  (AN 3:85)</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>“Monk, can you train in reference to the three trainings: the training
in heightened virtue, the training in heightened mind, the training in
heightened discernment?” “Yes, lord, I can train in reference to the
three trainings: the training in heightened virtue, the training in
heightened mind, the training in heightened discernment.”</p>
<p>“Then train in reference to those three trainings: the training in
heightened virtue, the training in heightened mind, the training in
heightened discernment. As you train in heightened virtue, heightened
mind, &amp; heightened discernment, <strong>your passion, aversion, &amp;
delusion</strong>—when trained in heightened virtue, heightened mind, &amp;
heightened discernment—<strong>will be abandoned</strong>. <strong>You</strong>—with the abandoning of
passion, the abandoning of aversion, the abandoning of delusion—<strong>will
not do anything unskillful or engage in any evil</strong>.”</p>
</blockquote>
<p>For definitions of these trainings, see <a href="https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/AN/AN3_90.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">AN 3:90</a>.</p>
