user17538: How can an understanding of emptiness help when experiencing physical pain, i have some understanding of emptiness from a mental viewpoint, and I understand that I can direct my mind to perceive the physical pain as karma ripening or that I have a choice of perception of my physical pain, I don't have to experience it as something to have aversion to. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. 

user-1: Pain is just pain, it is empty of a self, it isn't a self; does not belong to a self; is empty of an owner
Seen as being empty of the quality of self or belonging to a self; there does not come to be an 'I am' in regards to the pain; there being no 'I am' in regards to the pain there is no 'I am experiencing pain'; there being no 'i am experiencing pain' there is no 'i am bad because i am experiencing pain'; there being no 'i am bad because i am experiencing pain ' there is no 'may i not be experiencing pain'
Understanding emptiness in this sense removes the basis for aversion that could arise in regards to a painful feeling 

user17707: If you start doing meditation and if you are lucky to have a good teacher, it is possible for you to have what we call a mind/body experience, meaning that you will feel that you are conscious of knowing that your mind is a separate entity to your body, you will not feel pain when that happens, but there is no way that you will experience 'Sunyata' ie. emptiness, even at 'Sothapanna state', you will only experience 'Three Universal Characteristics' but not 'Emptiness' that is totally a different experience altogether,  about the cosmos where there are no particles/material phenomena (Rupa kalapa) and no formations (nama) other than the natural cosmic primary force which has been experienced as the ultimate truth by Buddha.

user16635: One of the things I've noticed in meditation is what I can best describe as physiological latency. If I'm sufficiently deep, and there is a sudden event — a loud, startling noise; a sudden muscle twinge; a bright flash of light — there is a distinct space between the registration of the event as a mere sensory event and the reactive impulse to respond to it. If that space is clear enough, the impulse to respond can disappear into it, or fail to arise at all. Nothing is left except the perception of the event having occurred, and emptiness reactions would have filled.
Pain is a signal from the body that something is out of whack and ought to be looked to. In and of itself, it is nothing more than a 'mere' sensory event. Of course, almost all of us are conditioned to respond to pain with a mental activity: fear and worry, thoughts about how best to avoid or quickly relieve pain, self-recriminations (because pain is often associated with punishment; the 'reopening of karma' as the question puts it). But it is perfectly possible to find that space between the sensory experience of pain and the reactive mental impulses we are habituated into. And when we do, pain is just a lighthouse shining out over clear, empty waters, telling us where we might go next or what we might avoid later, but troubling nothing directly.

17538: <p>How can an understanding of emptiness help when experiencing physical pain, i have some understanding of emptiness from a mental viewpoint, and I understand that I can direct my mind to perceive the physical pain as karma ripening or that I have a choice of perception of my physical pain, I don't have to experience it as something to have aversion to. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. </p>
 -1: <p>Pain is just pain, it is empty of a self, it isn't a self; does not belong to a self; is empty of an owner</p>

<p>Seen as being empty of the quality of self or belonging to a self; there does not come to be an 'I am' in regards to the pain; there being no 'I am' in regards to the pain there is no 'I am experiencing pain'; there being no 'i am experiencing pain' there is no 'i am bad because i am experiencing pain'; there being no 'i am bad because i am experiencing pain ' there is no 'may i not be experiencing pain'</p>

<p>Understanding emptiness in this sense removes the basis for aversion that could arise in regards to a painful feeling </p>
 17707: <p>If you start doing meditation and if you are lucky to have a good teacher, it is possible for you to have what we call a mind/body experience, meaning that you will feel that you are conscious of knowing that your mind is a separate entity to your body, you will not feel pain when that happens, but there is no way that you will experience 'Sunyata' ie. emptiness, even at 'Sothapanna state', you will only experience 'Three Universal Characteristics' but not 'Emptiness' that is totally a different experience altogether,  about the cosmos where there are no particles/material phenomena (Rupa kalapa) and no formations (nama) other than the natural cosmic primary force which has been experienced as the ultimate truth by Buddha.</p>
 16635: <p>One of the things I've noticed in meditation is what I can best describe as <em>physiological latency</em>. If I'm sufficiently deep, and there is a sudden event — a loud, startling noise; a sudden muscle twinge; a bright flash of light — there is a distinct space between the registration of the event <em>as a mere sensory event</em> and the reactive impulse to respond to it. If that space is clear enough, the impulse to respond can disappear into it, or fail to arise at all. Nothing is left except the perception of the event having occurred, and emptiness reactions would have filled.</p>
<p>Pain is a signal from the body that something is out of whack and ought to be looked to. In and of itself, it is nothing more than a 'mere' sensory event. Of course, almost all of us are conditioned to respond to pain with a mental activity: fear and worry, thoughts about how best to avoid or quickly relieve pain, self-recriminations (because pain is often associated with punishment; the 'reopening of karma' as the question puts it). But it is perfectly possible to find that space between the sensory experience of pain and the reactive mental impulses we are habituated into. And when we do, pain is just a lighthouse shining out over clear, empty waters, telling us where we might go next or what we might avoid later, but troubling nothing directly.</p>
