user10100: In saccapabba of mahāsatipaṭṭhānasutta:

Jāti is "khandhānaṃ patubhāvo" and "āyatanānaṃ paṭilābho".
Khandhānaṃ patubhāvo included viññāṇa-khandha.

Viññāṇa-khandha is viññāṇa-paṭiccasamuppāda.
Rūpa-paṭiccasamuppāda is rūpa-khandha. 
Nāma-paṭiccasamuppāda is vedanā-, saññā-, saṇkhāra-khandha (cetana, phassa, manasikāra; see: sammādiṭṭhisuttaṃ).

Those nāma- and rūpa-paṭiccasamuppāda are piyarūpa/sātarūpa.

60 piyarūpa/sātarūpa: 6 outer āyatana, 6 āyatana-paṭiccasamuppāda, 6 viññāṇa-paṭiccasamuppāda, and 42 nāma-paṭiccasamuppāda  (6 vedana-paṭiccasamuppāda, 6 saññā-khandha, 6x5 saṇkhāra-khandha [phassa-paṭiccasamuppāda, cetanā-paṭiccasamuppāda, vitakka, vicāra, taṇhā-paṭiccasamuppāda]).


So jāti-paṭiccasamuppāda is viññāna-paṭiccasamuppāda.
The difference is: Jāti-paṭiccasamuppāda is 5 khandha. So jāti is a conclusion of viññāna, nāma+rūpa, āyatana, phassa, vedanā, taṇhā, upādāna and bhavā-paṭiccasamuppāda. But viññāṇa-paṭiccasamuppāda is an explanation of jhāti.
So sacca-pabba is the reason that commentary commented "Viññāṇa Is Jāti And Paṭisandhi", right?

user18: 
So jāti-paṭiccasamuppāda is viññāna-paṭiccasamuppāda.

No, this is not a proper statement. jāti refers to conceptual birth of a satta, both in paṭiccasamuppāda and the sacca-pabba:

Katamā ca, bhikkhave, jāti? Yā tesaṃ tesaṃ sattānaṃ tamhi tamhi satta-nikāye jāti
The difference is: Jāti-paṭiccasamuppāda is 5 khandha.

jāti is the event of being born, it cannot be equated to the five khandha directly.

So jāti is a conclusion of viññāna, nāma+rūpa, āyatana, phassa, vedanā, taṇhā, upādāna and bhavā-paṭiccasamuppāda.

This is correct, of course.

But viññāṇa-paṭiccasamuppāda is an explanation of jāti.

viññāṇa is a part of the process of jāti, but paṭiccasamuppāda is not always taught in a way relating viññāṇa to jāti.

So sacca-pabba is the reason that commentary commented "Viññāṇa Is Jāti And Paṭisandhi", right?

What commentary is this? paṭisandhi is one important viññāṇa but not the only one being spoke of in paṭiccasamuppāda. I think you are over simplifying things.

10100: <p>In <a href="http://www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/digha/dn22.html#4E" rel="nofollow noreferrer">saccapabba</a> of mahāsatipaṭṭhānasutta:</p>

<ol>
<li>Jāti is "khandhānaṃ patubhāvo" and "āyatanānaṃ paṭilābho".</li>
<li>Khandhānaṃ patubhāvo included viññāṇa-khandha.</li>
<ol>
<li>Viññāṇa-khandha is viññāṇa-paṭiccasamuppāda.</li>
<li>Rūpa-paṭiccasamuppāda is rūpa-khandha.&nbsp;</li>
<li>Nāma-paṭiccasamuppāda is vedanā-, saññā-, saṇkhāra-khandha (cetana, phassa, manasikāra; see: sammādiṭṭhisuttaṃ).</li>
</ol>

<li>Those nāma- and rūpa-paṭiccasamuppāda are piyarūpa/sātarūpa.</li>
<ol>
<li>60 piyarūpa/sātarūpa: 6 outer āyatana, 6 āyatana-paṭiccasamuppāda, 6 viññāṇa-paṭiccasamuppāda, and 42 nāma-paṭiccasamuppāda &nbsp;(6 vedana-paṭiccasamuppāda, 6 saññā-khandha, 6x5 saṇkhāra-khandha [phassa-paṭiccasamuppāda, cetanā-paṭiccasamuppāda, vitakka, vicāra, taṇhā-paṭiccasamuppāda]).</li>
</ol>
</ol>

<p>So jāti-paṭiccasamuppāda is viññāna-paṭiccasamuppāda.</p>

<p>The difference is: Jāti-paṭiccasamuppāda is 5 khandha. So jāti is a conclusion of viññāna, nāma+rūpa, āyatana, phassa, vedanā, taṇhā, upādāna and bhavā-paṭiccasamuppāda. But viññāṇa-paṭiccasamuppāda is an explanation of jhāti.</p>

<p>So sacca-pabba is the reason that commentary commented "Viññāṇa Is Jāti And Paṭisandhi", right?</p>
 18: <blockquote>
<p>So jāti-paṭiccasamuppāda is viññāna-paṭiccasamuppāda.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>No, this is not a proper statement. <strong>jāti</strong> refers to conceptual birth of a satta, both in paṭiccasamuppāda and the sacca-pabba:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Katamā ca, bhikkhave, jāti? Yā tesaṃ tesaṃ sattānaṃ tamhi tamhi satta-nikāye jāti</p>
<p>The difference is: Jāti-paṭiccasamuppāda is 5 khandha.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>jāti is the event of being born, it cannot be equated to the five khandha directly.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>So jāti is a conclusion of viññāna, nāma+rūpa, āyatana, phassa, vedanā, taṇhā, upādāna and bhavā-paṭiccasamuppāda.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>This is correct, of course.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>But viññāṇa-paṭiccasamuppāda is an explanation of jāti.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>viññāṇa is a part of the process of jāti, but paṭiccasamuppāda is not always taught in a way relating viññāṇa to jāti.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>So sacca-pabba is the reason that commentary commented &quot;Viññāṇa Is Jāti And Paṭisandhi&quot;, right?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>What commentary is this? paṭisandhi is one important viññāṇa but not the only one being spoke of in paṭiccasamuppāda. I think you are over simplifying things.</p>
