user16806: I agree I may be impatient here. I am doing Zazen and Anapan sati like breath awareness for quiet a while now. But I get no results, no satori and no Jnana and no present moment breath awareness.
This creates frustration after meditation as I dont go into silent spaces. This creates discouragement for sitting for next time.
Can someone please point me a way to look at this in a somehow positive way and keep me encouraged.

user19099: 
The place where not even a needle can enter I will leave aside for now, but when the 
  foaming billows wash the sky, what will you do with yourself then?
A monk asked Kyorin, "What is the meaning of Bodhidharma coming from the 
  West?"
  Kyorin replied, "Sitting long and getting tired."

Imagine you just started running.  Your first day out, you put your feet to the pavement and start jogging.  Those first couple of minutes are exhilarating.  You exalt in the feeling of your body exerting itself.  For a brief moment, you feel like you could go all day.  Then reality hits.  All of those days on the couch, all that bad food, all that laziness hits you right around the quarter mile mark.  You are sucking wind and life is sucking generally.  Why in the hell did you even bother?  Running is terrible!
Meditation is no different.  When we first start sitting, our minds are in horrible shape.  While those first couple of minutes may feel wonderful, eventually the reality of our spiritual flabbiness becomes apparent.  We become plagued by doubts.  Our minds feel terribly unsettled.  After about ten minutes, maybe our legs even begin to hurt.  What was a blissful, uplifting practice ten minutes ago suddenly goes to hell.  Meditation sucks.
I'm not going to lie to you.  If you are sincere about your practice, meditation is going to have frequent sucky moments that you are going to have to contend with.  It's an essential part of the process.  But like the Hekiganroku tells us, "if you run away from arrows and evade swords you will be a failure in Zen" (Case 17).  You have to confront these challenges.  Just like jogging, or the last couple of reps when you're lifting weights, that edge space of difficulty is where small, incremental change happens.  Unless you visit that place again and again, your practice won't get any stronger.  Learn to embrace difficulty.  When it comes, you are growing.  Frustration is cause for celebration.  
There are no bad sits save for the ones that you don't do.  Don't crave silence.  Don't crave difficulty.  Simply work with what the sit gives you.  If you're consistent, eventually those small changes will add up and that barrier you are currently facing will topple.  You may not notice this as having happened, but one day you will plop down on the cushion and have a sit that will make Manjurshri himself jealous.

Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but don't nobody wanna to lift no heavy ass 
  weights."  - Ronnie Coleman


user295: Sometimes expectation may lead to conterproductive meditation.

user471: Some advice given by Ajaan Fuang in "Awareness Itself":

§ "When the meditation goes well, don't get excited. When it doesn't
  go well, don't get depressed. Simply be observant to see why it's
  good, why it's bad. If you can be observant like this, it won't be
  long before your meditation becomes a skill."
§ "Everything depends on your powers of observation. If they're crude
  and sloppy, you'll get nothing but crude and sloppy results. And your
  meditation will have no hope of making progress.

And also others:

§ "Other people can teach you only the outer skin, but as for what
  lies deeper inside, only you can lay down the law for yourself. You
  have to draw the line, being mindful, keeping track of what you do at
  all times. It's like having a teacher following you around, in public
  and in private, keeping watch over you, telling you what to do and
  what not to do, making sure that you stay in line. If you don't have
  this sort of teacher inside you, the mind is bound to stray off the
  path and get into mischief, shoplifting all over town."
§ "Persistence comes from conviction, discernment from being mindful."
§ "Persistence in the practice is a matter of the mind, and not of
  your posture. In other words, whatever you do, keep your mindfulness
  constant and don't let it lapse. No matter what your activity, make
  sure the mind sticks with its meditation work."
§ "Meditating isn't a 
  matter of making the mind empty, you know. The mind has to have work
  to do. If you make it empty, then anything — good or bad — can pop
  into it. It's like leaving the front door to your home open. Anything
  at all can come strolling right in."
§ A young nurse practiced meditation with Ajaan Fuang several days
  running, and finally asked him one day, "Why wasn't today's session as
  good as yesterday's?"
He answered: "Meditating is like wearing clothes. Today you wear
  white, tomorrow red, yellow, blue, whatever. You have to keep
  changing. You can't wear the same set of clothes all the time. So
  whatever color you're wearing, just be aware of it. Don't get
  depressed or excited about it."
§ A few months later the same nurse was sitting in meditation when a
  sense of peace and clarity in her mind became so intense that she felt
  she would never have a bad mood infiltrate her mind again. But sure
  enough, bad moods eventually came back as before. When she mentioned
  this to Ajaan Fuang, he said, "Looking after the mind is like raising
  a child. There will have to be bad days along with the good. If you
  want only the good, you're in for trouble. So you have to play
  neutral: Don't fall in with the good or the bad."
§ A student came to complain to Ajaan Fuang that she had been
  meditating for years, and still hadn't gotten anything out of it. His
  immediate response: "You don't meditate to 'get' anything. You
  meditate to let go."
§ The seamstress, after practicing meditation with Ajaan Fuang for
  several months, told him that her mind seemed more of a mess than it
  was before she began meditating. "Of course it does," he told her.
  "It's like your house. If you polish the floor every day, you won't be
  able to stand the least little bit of dust on it. The cleaner the
  house, the more easily you'll see the dirt. If you don't keep
  polishing the mind, you can let it go out and sleep in the mud without
  any qualms at all. But once you get it to sleep on a polished floor,
  then if there's even a speck of dust, you'll have to sweep it away.
  You won't be able to stand the mess."


16806: <p>I agree I may be impatient here. I am doing Zazen and Anapan sati like breath awareness for quiet a while now. But I get no results, no satori and no Jnana and no present moment breath awareness.</p>

<p>This creates frustration after meditation as I dont go into silent spaces. This creates discouragement for sitting for next time.</p>

<p>Can someone please point me a way to look at this in a somehow positive way and keep me encouraged.</p>
 19099: <blockquote>
  <p>The place where not even a needle can enter I will leave aside for now, but when the 
  foaming billows wash the sky, what will you do with yourself then?<br>
  <br>A monk asked Kyorin, "What is the meaning of Bodhidharma coming from the 
  West?"
  <br>Kyorin replied, "Sitting long and getting tired."</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Imagine you just started running.  Your first day out, you put your feet to the pavement and start jogging.  Those first couple of minutes are exhilarating.  You exalt in the feeling of your body exerting itself.  For a brief moment, you feel like you could go all day.  Then reality hits.  All of those days on the couch, all that bad food, all that laziness hits you right around the quarter mile mark.  You are sucking wind and life is sucking generally.  Why in the hell did you even bother?  Running is terrible!</p>

<p>Meditation is no different.  When we first start sitting, our minds are in horrible shape.  While those first couple of minutes may feel wonderful, eventually the reality of our spiritual flabbiness becomes apparent.  We become plagued by doubts.  Our minds feel terribly unsettled.  After about ten minutes, maybe our legs even begin to hurt.  What was a blissful, uplifting practice ten minutes ago suddenly goes to hell.  Meditation sucks.</p>

<p>I'm not going to lie to you.  If you are sincere about your practice, meditation is going to have frequent sucky moments that you are going to have to contend with.  It's an essential part of the process.  But like the Hekiganroku tells us, "if you run away from arrows and evade swords you will be a failure in Zen" (Case 17).  You have to confront these challenges.  Just like jogging, or the last couple of reps when you're lifting weights, that edge space of difficulty is where small, incremental change happens.  Unless you visit that place again and again, your practice won't get any stronger.  Learn to embrace difficulty.  When it comes, you are growing.  Frustration is cause for celebration.  </p>

<p>There are no bad sits save for the ones that you don't do.  Don't crave silence.  Don't crave difficulty.  Simply work with what the sit gives you.  If you're consistent, eventually those small changes will add up and that barrier you are currently facing will topple.  You may not notice this as having happened, but one day you will plop down on the cushion and have a sit that will make Manjurshri himself jealous.</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but don't nobody wanna to lift no heavy ass 
  weights."  - Ronnie Coleman</p>
</blockquote>
 295: <p>Sometimes expectation may lead to conterproductive meditation.</p>
 471: <p>Some advice given by Ajaan Fuang in "<a href="https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai/fuang/itself.html#med" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Awareness Itself</a>":</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>§ "When the meditation goes well, don't get excited. When it doesn't
  go well, don't get depressed. Simply be observant to see why it's
  good, why it's bad. If you can be observant like this, it won't be
  long before your meditation becomes a skill."</p>
  
  <p>§ "Everything depends on your powers of observation. If they're crude
  and sloppy, you'll get nothing but crude and sloppy results. And your
  meditation will have no hope of making progress.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>And also others:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>§ "Other people can teach you only the outer skin, but as for what
  lies deeper inside, only you can lay down the law for yourself. You
  have to draw the line, being mindful, keeping track of what you do at
  all times. It's like having a teacher following you around, in public
  and in private, keeping watch over you, telling you what to do and
  what not to do, making sure that you stay in line. If you don't have
  this sort of teacher inside you, the mind is bound to stray off the
  path and get into mischief, shoplifting all over town."</p>
  
  <p>§ "Persistence comes from conviction, discernment from being mindful."</p>
  
  <p>§ "Persistence in the practice is a matter of the mind, and not of
  your posture. In other words, whatever you do, keep your mindfulness
  constant and don't let it lapse. No matter what your activity, make
  sure the mind sticks with its meditation work."</p>
  
  <p>§ "Meditating isn't a 
  matter of making the mind empty, you know. The mind has to have work
  to do. If you make it empty, then anything — good or bad — can pop
  into it. It's like leaving the front door to your home open. Anything
  at all can come strolling right in."</p>
  
  <p>§ A young nurse practiced meditation with Ajaan Fuang several days
  running, and finally asked him one day, "Why wasn't today's session as
  good as yesterday's?"</p>
  
  <p>He answered: "Meditating is like wearing clothes. Today you wear
  white, tomorrow red, yellow, blue, whatever. You have to keep
  changing. You can't wear the same set of clothes all the time. So
  whatever color you're wearing, just be aware of it. Don't get
  depressed or excited about it."</p>
  
  <p>§ A few months later the same nurse was sitting in meditation when a
  sense of peace and clarity in her mind became so intense that she felt
  she would never have a bad mood infiltrate her mind again. But sure
  enough, bad moods eventually came back as before. When she mentioned
  this to Ajaan Fuang, he said, "Looking after the mind is like raising
  a child. There will have to be bad days along with the good. If you
  want only the good, you're in for trouble. So you have to play
  neutral: Don't fall in with the good or the bad."</p>
  
  <p>§ A student came to complain to Ajaan Fuang that she had been
  meditating for years, and still hadn't gotten anything out of it. His
  immediate response: "You don't meditate to 'get' anything. You
  meditate to let go."</p>
  
  <p>§ The seamstress, after practicing meditation with Ajaan Fuang for
  several months, told him that her mind seemed more of a mess than it
  was before she began meditating. "Of course it does," he told her.
  "It's like your house. If you polish the floor every day, you won't be
  able to stand the least little bit of dust on it. The cleaner the
  house, the more easily you'll see the dirt. If you don't keep
  polishing the mind, you can let it go out and sleep in the mud without
  any qualms at all. But once you get it to sleep on a polished floor,
  then if there's even a speck of dust, you'll have to sweep it away.
  You won't be able to stand the mess."</p>
</blockquote>
