user254: As a follow-on from Dhammadhatu's answer here, if it's alright to ask this, do we know, how do we know that the suttas talk about "past lives"?
Here is a translation of the formula which Ahmed quoted from MN 36 and which also appears in MN 4:

Pubbenivāsānussatiñāṇa
— Knowledge of the recollection of former living places —
  [pubbe+nivāsa+anussati+ñāṇa]
  This is the stock formula describing the first of the three vijjās attainable on the basis of the fourth jhāna, which consists in remembering one's past lives
So aneka·vihitaṃ pubbe·nivāsaṃ anussarati,
  He recollects many former living places,
seyyathidaṃ: ekam·pi jātiṃ dve·pi jātiyo
  that is to say: one birth, two births,

Translations of nivāsa
The buddha-vacana.org dictionary translates nivāsa as:

nivāsa: residence, dwelling, abode, place of residence (w. ref. to past lives)

The PTS dictionary translates it as:

Nivāsa [fr. nivasati2] stopping, dwelling, resting -- place, abode; living, sheltering J i.115 (˚ŋ kappeti to put up); ii.110; PvA 76, 78. Usually in phrase pubbe -- nivāsaŋ anussarati "to remember one's former abode or place of existence (in a former life)," characterising the faculty of remembering one's former birth

Translations of jāti
The buddha-vacana.org dictionary translates jāti as:

jāti: birth, i.e. the entire process from conception to parturition. Jāti is defined by the Buddha at SN 12.2. For some beings, the birth is not immediate and requires a maturation in the mother's body, as it is the case for humans and animals; for some other beings, the birth is immediate: those are called opapātiko.
Jāti is the eleventh link of paṭicca-samuppāda, conditioned by bhava and giving rise to jarā-maraṇa.

If I look at its translation of SN 12.2 it says,

And what, bhikkhus, is jāti? For the various beings in the various classes of beings, jāti, the birth, the descent [into the womb], the arising [in the world], the appearance, the apparition of the khandhas, the acquisition of the āyatanas. This, bhikkhus, is called jāti.

The PTS dictionary quotes the same passage from SN 12.2 as the definition of jāti. I note that sañjāti (translated as "birth" in that translation of SN 12.2) is alternatively translated as "origin" or "outcome".

Questions
Dhammadhatu's theory/answer was that "birth" meant "a time in the Buddha's life when he believed something to be 'him' or 'his'".
If I look at the Pali (beware that I'm not even a novice, let alone a scholar) I don't see anything to necessarily contradict that. So my questions are:

When people translate nivāsa why do they translate that as "former lives" instead of as, for example, "former living places" or "former homes", or maybe "former conditions" or something?
For example, Thanissaro Bhikkhu's translation of MN 36 says,

I recollected my manifold past lives, i.e., one birth, two, etc.

When people translate jāti why do they translate that as "birth" instead of as, "appearing", "coming into being", "consolidation", "becoming aware of the khandhas"?

Supplementary questions:

Is the Pali is more ambiguous, perhaps deliberately more ambiguous, than the English?
There seems to be two views among Buddhists: one that Buddhist doctrine is literally about "previous lives", and the other that Buddhist doctrine is about a non-continuity of oneself within this/one life. Does the Pali support either or both these views; and does it require either or both these views, i.e. would it contradict the scripture to not subscribe to one of these views?
Is there further evidence (for one view or the other) within the Pali text?
Is there further evidence (for one view or the other) outside the text, e.g. is there a separate commentary where it's stated unambiguously?
I guess it's part of the teacher-to-student lineage.
To the extent that there is ambiguity or uncertainty, is the ambiguity or uncertainty known and even accepted by scholars and monks? Or are 'they' sure that it's supposed to mean one or the other?


It's true to say, isn't it, that a belief in "rebirth" was a feature of the beliefs of non-Buddhists at the time. For example, Wikipedia says,

Reincarnation is the philosophical or religious concept that a living being can begin a new life in a different body after biological death. This is also called rebirth or transmigration, and is a part of the Saṃsāra doctrine of cyclic existence. It is a central tenet of all major Indian religions, namely Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, and Sikhism. The idea of reincarnation is found in many ancient cultures, and a belief in rebirth that was held by such historic figures as Pythagoras, Plato, and Socrates.

Is it possible that Buddhist doctrine is expressed in a way which doesn't contradict these beliefs (i.e. it would be understood as "not annihilationist" by an audience which already held that belief), yet also doesn't require such a belief?

user8157: Three other translations of SN 12.2 are below: 

And what is birth? Whatever birth, taking birth, descent,
  coming-to-be, coming-forth, appearance of aggregates, & acquisition of
  [sense] media of the various beings in this or that group of beings,
  that is called birth. Thanisssaro

~~

What is birth? It is being born, arising, coming to be among the
  various groups of sentient beings, the appearance of the various
  aggregates, the arising of a particular sense door. This is birth.
  Birth conditions the arising of old age and death. Buddhadasa

~~~

The birth of the various beings into the various orders of
  beings....etc..Bodhi

Each of the translations above emphasises the birth of a 'being' or 'beings' ('satta'). 
In the suttas, a 'being' ('satta') is not a biological organism. A 'being' is a state of 'attachment', a 'child's play thing', a 'view', a 'convention', a 'verbal designation' & a 'social & self identity'. The suttas state Mara believes a 'being' arises from parturition. To quote:

‘A being,’ lord. ‘A being,’ it’s said. To what extent is one said to be ‘a being’? Any desire, passion, delight or craving for form,
  feeling, perception, mental formations &/or consciousness Radha: when
  one is caught up there, tied up there, one is said to be ‘a being....Just as when boys or girls are playing with little sand castles...you too should smash, scatter & demolish...and make it unfit for play. SN
  23.2

~~~

Why now do you assume ‘a being’? Mara, have you grasped a view? This is a heap of sheer constructions: Here no being is found. Just as,
  with an assemblage of parts, the word ‘chariot’ is used, so, when the
  aggregates are present, there’s the convention ‘a being.’ SN 5.10

~~~

In human bodies in themselves, nothing distinctive can be found. Distinction among human beings is purely verbal designation….For name
  & clan are assigned, originating in conventions…Whoever makes his
  living among men by agriculture is called a ‘farmer’…Whoever makes his
  living among men by merchandise  is called a ‘merchant’…that is how
  the wise truly see…seers of dependent origination. MN 98

~~~ 

Angulimala, say to that woman: “Sister, since I was born with a noble birth, I do not recall that I have ever intentionally deprived a
  living being of life”. MN 86

~~~

Wikipedia: Jāti (in Devanagari: जाति, Telugu:జాతి, Kannada:ಜಾತಿ, Malayalam: ജാതി, Tamil:ஜாதி, literally “birth”) is a group of clans,
  tribes, communities and sub-communities and religions in India. Each
  jāti typically has an association with a traditional job function or
  tribe.

~~~

There is the case where an uninstructed person assumes form, feeling, perception, mental formations &/or consciousness to be a ‘self’. That
  assumption is a mental formation. Now what is the cause, what is the
  origination, what is the birth, what is the coming-into-existence of
  that fabrication? To an uninstructed, run-of-the-mill person, touched
  by that which is felt born of contact with ignorance, craving arises.
  That mental formation of ‘self’ is born from that. And that mental
  formation is impermanent, fabricated, dependently arisen. That
  craving… That feeling… That contact… That ignorance is impermanent,
  fabricated, dependently arisen. SN 22.81


user8044: Before coming to the subject proper – rebirth – let me give you an introductory note on the first couple of links to rebirth (rebirth is part of the continuous process of change.) 
According to the Scriptures, tanha is craving. It is the chief root of suffering and of ever continuing cycle of rebirths. Dependant on tanha arises upadana (tanha paccaya upadanam). Upadana is a three-dimensional term which represent attachment, clinging and grasping. If one does not grasp things as one’s own and eradicate “I” concept (upadana) completely, one can achieve liberation. 
The Buddha presented and explained the teaching of Paticcasamuppada (Dependent origination ) in the Maha Nidana Sutta (The Great Causes Discourse) of the Digha Nikaya (DN15). It is a deep and complex doctrine. By not understanding, and not penetrating this doctrine beings have become entangled like in a knotted ball of thread, unable to pass beyond the woeful states of existence, and Samsara, the cycle of existence. 
We should realize that according to the Paticcasamuppada (Dependent origination ), “dependent on becoming arises birth” (bhava paccaya jati).  That is kamma-process, or actions and the kamma-resultant rebirth process is the condition of the birth. In this way life continues from one existence to another. 
Of the many numerous suttas that talk about past lives, the way life continues from one existence to another, the most intriguing examples are given in fifteen suttas that are found in the Anamataggasamyutta (Connected Discourses on Without Discoverable Beginning).  You may not find it on internet. The best translation of it is THE CONNECTED DISCOURSES OF THE BUDDHA - A Translation of the Saṃyutta Nikāya by Bhikkhu Bodhi (pages 651 – 661).  In one of the 15 suttas Buddha confirms rebirth and that every creature has been reborn so many times that all are related to each other, every creature was either mother, father, brother, sister , son or daughter in past.
A short description of it given in:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/

Anamatagga-samyutta — The unimaginable beginnings of samsara  

•   SN 15.3: Assu Sutta — Tears {S ii 179; CDB i 652} [Thanissaro]. 
"Which is greater, the tears you have shed while transmigrating and wandering this long, long time... or the water in the four great oceans?"
•   SN 15.9: Danda Sutta — The Stick {S ii 184; CDB i 656} [Thanissaro]. 
We bounce from one birth to the next, as a thrown stick bounces along the ground.
•   SN 15.11: Duggata Sutta — Fallen on Hard Times {S ii 186; CDB i 657} [Thanissaro].
When you encounter an unfortunate person, remember: you've been there, too.
•   SN 15.12: Sukhita Sutta — Happy {S ii 186; CDB i 658} [Thanissaro]. 
When you encounter a fortunate person, remember: you've been there, too.
•   SN 15.13: Timsa Sutta — Thirty {S ii 187; CDB i 658} [Thanissaro]. 
Which is greater, the blood you have shed in your long journey in samsara, or the water in the four great oceans?
•   SN 15.14-19: Mata Sutta — Mother {S ii 189; CDB i 659} [Thanissaro]. 
It's hard to meet someone who has not been, at some time in the distant past, your mother, father, son, daughter, sister, or brother.

user10851: ‘Past life’ would be translated in Pali as ‘pubbe-jīv(it)am’ and ’re-birth’ would be ‘punna-jāti’, but I have not found either of these terms in a digital search of the whole Pali Tipitaka. The Buddha could have easily used those terms, if that's the meaning he wanted to give. So, to me, translating words with those meanings, is only interpretation and I think one should be concerned with putting words into the Buddha's mouth that were not there - i.e. misrepresenting him will have vey negative consequence to both the interpreter and those who have faith in him. The passage about the first of the three vijjā includes the word 'birth', but not the word 'life'.
For me the important questions are: 1. ‘do we believe the Buddha’s teaching is FOR THIS VERY LIFE? If so, which of the two possibilities: past lives and past births, best help us live a truly happy life here and now? Even ‘past life/lives’ itself would seem to be against the idea of ‘this very life’. 2. I understand the qualities of the Dhamma: akāliko and ehipassiko as: timeless and verifiable. So, which of the two possibilities: past lives and past births, can be seen and tested immediately?
Now we could assume the Buddha used words such as 'birth' 'aging' and 'death' as the common person does, but I think that would be very dangerous. To me one of the main evidences that he did not, is that he often said "in this Dhamma-Vinaya, this means x'. Or for example the well-known quote: 'I call intention action' (misquoted/translated as 'I tell you, intention is action' which implies word and deed are NOT action).
That the Buddha did not use 'birth' the common way, or that he meant something quite different when he said it, seems evident to me from the story of a conversation between him and Monk Aṅgulimāla. See: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.086.than.html.
When I read the story, I do not assume that the Buddha did not know who he was talking to, as the Buddha had personally converted Aṅgulimāla. So he knew that the monk had killed many people before conversion. I do not assume the Buddha was testing the monk either, but rather that the Buddha used 'birth' with a psychological meaning and he only had to change it to 'noble birth' because Aṅgulimāla did not yet understand the Buddha's usage of such terms.
For me it is only with understanding 'birth aging and death' in with psychological meanings (birth, aging and death of ego/the five CLINGING aggregates) that the two parts of the First Noble Truth can be understood together and that the whole of the Buddha's teaching (the Dhamma) is FOR THIS VERY LIFE, akāliko and ehipassiko: timeless and verifiable.
In the passage about the first of the three vijjā, I believe the Buddha spoke of recalling his past life and seeing numerous births (NOT lives) and these were births of ego (the five CLINGING aggregates). This happens each time we cling to one of the five aggregates, which then become the aggregates of CLINGING and suffering. The First Noble Truth summarises 'the five aggregates OF CLINING are suffering', NOT 'the five aggregates are suffering'. Most 'summaries' of the First Noble Truth are 'life is suffering' but that would be 'the five aggregates are suffering'. That leaves out the very important idea of CLINGING.
re: suttas explaining jāti as birth into the womb: I remember reading in a sutta, the Buddha called 'mother' 'craving' and 'father' 'ignorance',; so ‘womb’ could also be understood in such a way, that is, figuratively, not physically.
best wishes

254: <p>As a follow-on from <a href="https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/a/15546/254">Dhammadhatu's answer here</a>, if it's alright to ask this, do we know, how do we know that the suttas talk about "past lives"?</p>

<p>Here is a translation of the formula which <a href="https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/a/15547/254">Ahmed quoted from MN 36</a> and which also appears in MN 4:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><strong><a href="http://www.buddha-vacana.org/formulae/pubbe.html#c" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Pubbenivāsānussatiñāṇa</a></strong></p>
  
  <p>— Knowledge of the recollection of former living places —<br>
  [<em>pubbe</em>+<em>nivāsa</em>+<em>anussati</em>+<em>ñāṇa</em>]<br>
  This is the stock formula describing the first of the three vijjās attainable on the basis of the fourth jhāna, which consists in remembering one's past lives</p>
  
  <p><em>So aneka·vihitaṃ pubbe·nivāsaṃ anussarati</em>,<br>
  He recollects many former living places,</p>
  
  <p><em>seyyathidaṃ: ekam·pi jātiṃ dve·pi jātiyo</em><br>
  that is to say: one birth, two births,</p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>Translations of <em>nivāsa</em></strong></p>

<p>The buddha-vacana.org dictionary translates <em>nivāsa</em> as:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>nivāsa: residence, dwelling, abode, place of residence (w. ref. to past lives)</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The <a href="http://dsalsrv02.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.2:1:545.pali" rel="nofollow noreferrer">PTS dictionary translates it</a> as:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><strong>Nivāsa</strong> [fr. nivasati2] stopping, dwelling, resting -- place, abode; living, sheltering J i.115 (˚ŋ kappeti to put up); ii.110; PvA 76, 78. Usually in phrase pubbe -- nivāsaŋ anussarati "to remember one's former abode or place of existence (in a former life)," characterising the faculty of remembering one's former birth</p>
</blockquote>

<p><strong>Translations of <em>jāti</em></strong></p>

<p>The <a href="http://www.buddha-vacana.org/gloss.html#jati" rel="nofollow noreferrer">buddha-vacana.org dictionary translates <em>jāti</em></a> as:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><strong>jāti</strong>: birth, i.e. the entire process from conception to parturition. Jāti is defined by the Buddha at SN 12.2. For some beings, the birth is not immediate and requires a maturation in the mother's body, as it is the case for humans and animals; for some other beings, the birth is immediate: those are called opapātiko.</p>
  
  <p>Jāti is the eleventh link of paṭicca-samuppāda, conditioned by bhava and giving rise to jarā-maraṇa.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>If I look at <a href="http://www.buddha-vacana.org/sutta/samyutta/nidana/sn12-002.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">its translation of SN 12.2</a> it says,</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>And what, bhikkhus, is jāti? For the various beings in the various classes of beings, jāti, the birth, the descent [into the womb], the arising [in the world], the appearance, the apparition of the khandhas, the acquisition of the āyatanas. This, bhikkhus, is called jāti.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>The <a href="http://dsalsrv02.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.1:1:1751.pali" rel="nofollow noreferrer">PTS dictionary quotes</a> the same passage from SN 12.2 as the definition of <em>jāti</em>. I note that <em>sañjāti</em> (translated as "birth" in that translation of SN 12.2) is alternatively translated as "origin" or "outcome".</p>

<hr>

<p><strong>Questions</strong></p>

<p>Dhammadhatu's theory/answer was that "birth" meant "a time in the Buddha's life when he believed something to be 'him' or 'his'".</p>

<p>If I look at the Pali (beware that I'm not even a novice, let alone a scholar) I don't see anything to necessarily contradict that. So my questions are:</p>

<ul>
<li><p>When people translate <em>nivāsa</em> why do they translate that as "former lives" instead of as, for example, "former living places" or "former homes", or maybe "former conditions" or something?</p>

<p>For example, <a href="http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.036.than.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Thanissaro Bhikkhu's translation of MN 36</a> says,</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>I recollected my manifold past lives, i.e., one birth, two, etc.</p>
</blockquote></li>
<li><p>When people translate <em>jāti</em> why do they translate that as "birth" instead of as, "appearing", "coming into being", "consolidation", "becoming aware of the khandhas"?</p></li>
</ul>

<p>Supplementary questions:</p>

<ul>
<li><p>Is the Pali is more ambiguous, perhaps deliberately more ambiguous, than the English?</p>

<p>There seems to be two views among Buddhists: one that Buddhist doctrine is literally about "previous lives", and the other that Buddhist doctrine is about a non-continuity of oneself within this/one life. Does the Pali support either or both these views; and does it require either or both these views, i.e. would it contradict the scripture to not subscribe to one of these views?</p></li>
<li><p>Is there further evidence (for one view or the other) within the Pali text?</p></li>
<li><p>Is there further evidence (for one view or the other) outside the text, e.g. is there a separate commentary where it's stated unambiguously?
I guess it's part of the teacher-to-student lineage.</p></li>
<li><p>To the extent that there is ambiguity or uncertainty, is the ambiguity or uncertainty known and even accepted by scholars and monks? Or are 'they' sure that it's supposed to mean one or the other?</p></li>
</ul>

<hr>

<p>It's true to say, isn't it, that a belief in "rebirth" was a feature of the beliefs of non-Buddhists at the time. For example, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Wikipedia says</a>,</p>

<blockquote>
  <p>Reincarnation is the philosophical or religious concept that a living being can begin a new life in a different body after biological death. This is also called rebirth or transmigration, and is a part of the Saṃsāra doctrine of cyclic existence. <strong>It is a central tenet of all major Indian religions, namely Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, and Sikhism</strong>. The idea of reincarnation is found in many ancient cultures, and a belief in rebirth that was held by such historic figures as Pythagoras, Plato, and Socrates.</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Is it possible that Buddhist doctrine is expressed in a way which doesn't contradict these beliefs (i.e. it would be understood as "not annihilationist" by an audience which already held that belief), yet also doesn't require such a belief?</p>
 8157: <p>Three other translations of <strong>SN 12.2</strong> are below: </p>

<blockquote>
  <p><em>And what is birth? Whatever birth, taking birth, descent,
  coming-to-be, coming-forth, appearance of aggregates, &amp; acquisition of
  [sense] media <strong>of the various beings in this or that group of beings</strong>,
  that is called birth. Thanisssaro</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>~~</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><em>What is birth? It is being born, arising, coming to be <strong>among the
  various groups of sentient beings</strong>, the appearance of the various
  aggregates, the arising of a particular sense door. This is birth.
  Birth conditions the arising of old age and death. Buddhadasa</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>~~~</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><em>The birth <strong>of the various beings</strong> into the various orders of
  beings....etc..Bodhi</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>Each of the translations above emphasises the birth of a 'being' or 'beings' ('satta'). </p>

<p>In the suttas, a 'being' ('satta') is not a biological organism. A 'being' is a state of 'attachment', a 'child's play thing', a 'view', a 'convention', a 'verbal designation' &amp; a 'social &amp; self identity'. The suttas state Mara believes a 'being' arises from parturition. To quote:</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><em>‘A being,’ lord. ‘A being,’ it’s said. To what extent is one said to be ‘a being’? Any desire, passion, delight or craving for form,
  feeling, perception, mental formations &amp;/or consciousness Radha: when
  one is caught up there, <strong>tied up</strong> there, one is said to be ‘a being....Just as when boys or girls are playing with little sand castles...you too should smash, scatter &amp; demolish...and make it unfit for play. SN
  23.2</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>~~~</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><em>Why now do you assume ‘a being’? Mara, have you grasped <strong>a view</strong>? This is a heap of sheer constructions: Here <strong>no being is found</strong>. Just as,
  with an assemblage of parts, the word ‘chariot’ is used, so, when the
  aggregates are present, there’s the convention ‘a being.’ SN 5.10</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>~~~</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><em>In human bodies in themselves, nothing distinctive can be found. Distinction among human beings is purely <strong>verbal designation</strong>….For name
  &amp; clan are assigned, originating in conventions…Whoever makes his
  living among men by agriculture is called a ‘farmer’…Whoever makes his
  living among men by merchandise  is called a ‘merchant’…that is how
  the wise truly see…seers of dependent origination. MN 98</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>~~~ </p>

<blockquote>
  <p><em>Angulimala, say to that woman: “Sister, since I was <strong>born with a noble birth</strong>, I do not recall that I have ever intentionally deprived a
  living being of life”. MN 86</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>~~~</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><em>Wikipedia: Jāti (in Devanagari: जाति, Telugu:జాతి, Kannada:ಜಾತಿ, Malayalam: ജാതി, Tamil:ஜாதி, literally “birth”) is a group of clans,
  tribes, communities and sub-communities and religions in India. Each
  jāti typically has an association with a traditional job function or
  tribe.</em></p>
</blockquote>

<p>~~~</p>

<blockquote>
  <p><em>There is the case where an uninstructed person assumes form, feeling, perception, mental formations &amp;/or consciousness to be a ‘self’. That
  <strong>assumption</strong> is a mental formation. Now what is the cause, what is the
  origination, <strong>what is the birth</strong>, what is the coming-into-existence of
  that fabrication? To an uninstructed, run-of-the-mill person, touched
  by that which is felt born of contact with ignorance, craving arises.
  That <strong>mental formation of ‘self’ is born</strong> from that. And that mental
  formation is impermanent, fabricated, dependently arisen. That
  craving… That feeling… That contact… That ignorance is impermanent,
  fabricated, dependently arisen. SN 22.81</em></p>
</blockquote>
 8044: <p>Before coming to the subject proper – rebirth – let me give you an introductory note on the first couple of links to rebirth (rebirth is part of the continuous process of change.) </p>

<p>According to the Scriptures, tanha is craving. It is the chief root of suffering and of ever continuing cycle of rebirths. Dependant on tanha arises upadana (tanha paccaya upadanam). Upadana is a three-dimensional term which represent attachment, clinging and grasping. If one does not grasp things as one’s own and eradicate “I” concept (upadana) completely, one can achieve liberation. </p>

<p>The Buddha presented and explained the teaching of Paticcasamuppada (Dependent origination ) in the Maha Nidana Sutta (The Great Causes Discourse) of the Digha Nikaya (DN15). It is a deep and complex doctrine. By not understanding, and not penetrating this doctrine beings have become entangled like in a knotted ball of thread, unable to pass beyond the woeful states of existence, and Samsara, the cycle of existence. </p>

<p>We should realize that according to the Paticcasamuppada (Dependent origination ), “dependent on becoming arises birth” (bhava paccaya jati).  That is kamma-process, or actions and the kamma-resultant rebirth process is the condition of the birth. In this way life continues from one existence to another. </p>

<p>Of the many numerous suttas that talk about past lives, the way life continues from one existence to another, the most intriguing examples are given in fifteen suttas that are found in the Anamataggasamyutta (Connected Discourses on Without Discoverable Beginning).  You may not find it on internet. The best translation of it is THE CONNECTED DISCOURSES OF THE BUDDHA - A Translation of the Saṃyutta Nikāya by Bhikkhu Bodhi (pages 651 – 661).  In one of the 15 suttas Buddha confirms rebirth and that every creature has been reborn so many times that all are related to each other, every creature was either mother, father, brother, sister , son or daughter in past.</p>

<p>A short description of it given in:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/" rel="nofollow">http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/</a></p>

<ol start="15">
<li>Anamatagga-samyutta — The unimaginable beginnings of samsara  </li>
</ol>

<p>•   SN 15.3: Assu Sutta — Tears {S ii 179; CDB i 652} [Thanissaro]. 
"Which is greater, the tears you have shed while transmigrating and wandering this long, long time... or the water in the four great oceans?"</p>

<p>•   SN 15.9: Danda Sutta — The Stick {S ii 184; CDB i 656} [Thanissaro]. 
We bounce from one birth to the next, as a thrown stick bounces along the ground.</p>

<p>•   SN 15.11: Duggata Sutta — Fallen on Hard Times {S ii 186; CDB i 657} [Thanissaro].
When you encounter an unfortunate person, remember: you've been there, too.</p>

<p>•   SN 15.12: Sukhita Sutta — Happy {S ii 186; CDB i 658} [Thanissaro]. 
When you encounter a fortunate person, remember: you've been there, too.</p>

<p>•   SN 15.13: Timsa Sutta — Thirty {S ii 187; CDB i 658} [Thanissaro]. 
Which is greater, the blood you have shed in your long journey in samsara, or the water in the four great oceans?</p>

<p>•   SN 15.14-19: Mata Sutta — Mother {S ii 189; CDB i 659} [Thanissaro]. 
It's hard to meet someone who has not been, at some time in the distant past, your mother, father, son, daughter, sister, or brother.</p>
 10851: <p>‘Past life’ would be translated in Pali as ‘pubbe-jīv(it)am’ and ’re-birth’ would be ‘punna-jāti’, but I have not found either of these terms in a digital search of the whole Pali Tipitaka. The Buddha could have easily used those terms, if that's the meaning he wanted to give. So, to me, translating words with those meanings, is only interpretation and I think one should be concerned with putting words into the Buddha's mouth that were not there - i.e. misrepresenting him will have vey negative consequence to both the interpreter and those who have faith in him. The passage about the first of the three vijjā includes the word 'birth', but not the word 'life'.</p>

<p>For me the important questions are: 1. ‘do we believe the Buddha’s teaching is FOR THIS VERY LIFE? If so, which of the two possibilities: past lives and past births, best help us live a truly happy life here and now? Even ‘past life/lives’ itself would seem to be against the idea of ‘this very life’. 2. I understand the qualities of the Dhamma: akāliko and ehipassiko as: timeless and verifiable. So, which of the two possibilities: past lives and past births, can be seen and tested immediately?</p>

<p>Now we could assume the Buddha used words such as 'birth' 'aging' and 'death' as the common person does, but I think that would be very dangerous. To me one of the main evidences that he did not, is that he often said "in this Dhamma-Vinaya, this means x'. Or for example the well-known quote: 'I call intention action' (misquoted/translated as 'I tell you, intention is action' which implies word and deed are NOT action).</p>

<p>That the Buddha did not use 'birth' the common way, or that he meant something quite different when he said it, seems evident to me from the story of a conversation between him and Monk Aṅgulimāla. See: <a href="http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.086.than.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.086.than.html</a>.</p>

<p>When I read the story, I do not assume that the Buddha did not know who he was talking to, as the Buddha had personally converted Aṅgulimāla. So he knew that the monk had killed many people before conversion. I do not assume the Buddha was testing the monk either, but rather that the Buddha used 'birth' with a psychological meaning and he only had to change it to 'noble birth' because Aṅgulimāla did not yet understand the Buddha's usage of such terms.</p>

<p>For me it is only with understanding 'birth aging and death' in with psychological meanings (birth, aging and death of ego/the five CLINGING aggregates) that the two parts of the First Noble Truth can be understood together and that the whole of the Buddha's teaching (the Dhamma) is FOR THIS VERY LIFE, akāliko and ehipassiko: timeless and verifiable.</p>

<p>In the passage about the first of the three vijjā, I believe the Buddha spoke of recalling his past life and seeing numerous births (NOT lives) and these were births of ego (the five CLINGING aggregates). This happens each time we cling to one of the five aggregates, which then become the aggregates of CLINGING and suffering. The First Noble Truth summarises 'the five aggregates OF CLINING are suffering', NOT 'the five aggregates are suffering'. Most 'summaries' of the First Noble Truth are 'life is suffering' but that would be 'the five aggregates are suffering'. That leaves out the very important idea of CLINGING.</p>

<p>re: suttas explaining jāti as birth into the womb: I remember reading in a sutta, the Buddha called 'mother' 'craving' and 'father' 'ignorance',; so ‘womb’ could also be understood in such a way, that is, figuratively, not physically.</p>

<p>best wishes</p>
