Union meetings to discuss conditions, pay and the future with Holden's Elizabeth workers State secretary of the Australian Manufacturing Workers' Union, John Camillo, outside Holden earlier this year. The union will hold unsanctioned meetings today to discuss conditions, wages and job security. HOLDEN factory workers will today attend a series of three union meetings at Elizabeth to discuss working conditions, rates of pay and the future of the company. A text message sent to radio station 5AA this morning revealed that the meetings would be held out of work hours as they had not been sanctioned by Holden. Australian Manufacturing Workers' Union SA secretary John Camillo confirmed on 5AA this morning that the union would host meetings at about 1pm, 3pm and midnight, after workers finished their shifts. ``Holden has had to put (up) a business plan in Detroit ... we're trying to do the best to make sure that Holden has an opportunity ... and has another 10 years of operations at Elizabeth," he said. ``What management keeps saying to us is that (the) future of Holden depends on workers' flexibility - these workers do have flexibility. ``They want job security in regards to that. It comes after the 1700 workers at the car assembly line in Elizabeth and 300 at an engine plant in Port Melbourne were asked to consider wage cuts last month. But while Holden asked factory workers to take pay cuts in a series of cost-cutting demands, senior managers were not told to do the same. Mr Camillo said today's meetings would include a discussion about wages, lunch breaks and overall working conditions. ``The 1700 of them (workers) want some sense of job security for the future," he said.