Old Rockers, Young Goths and Public Apologies Macklemore & Ryan Lewis won a lot of awards at the Grammys on Sunday: no surprise, given their YouTube hits, their narrative of scrappy ascendance and their clear moral messaging, not to mention last year's advances in cultural borrowing on the part of white artists in pop and hip-hop. And the even newer advances in apologizing for success through that borrowing. But what else did the Grammys tell us this year, in the nominations, the wins and the broadcast? What is to be learned from old rock stars, young goths, countrified weed references, robots with 1970s production values, Beyoncé"s chair and snifter or Jay Z's gold sippy-cup? Jon Pareles and Jon Caramanica, who both wrote about the Grammy awards telecast, talk to Ben Ratliff, the Popcast host, about the proceedings. Jon Pareles on the Grammys Telecast Jon Caramanica on the Macklemore Apologia Tracks by Grammy winners (and notable nominees).