Is the toilet seat really the dirtiest place in the home? 17 November 2012 Last updated at 01:51 By Charlotte Pritchard BBC News The toilet seat has acquired an unfair reputation as the dirtiest item in the average household. But scientists say there are far filthier places in our house, some of them where we least expect. Would you chop your vegetables on your toilet seat? I think pretty much all of us would say No. But maybe we should think again. Dr Chuck Gerba, professor of microbiology at the University of Arizona, studies how diseases are transferred through the environment. This involves swabbing household items and measuring how many bacteria - and what sort - develop. He particularly looks for faecal bacteria such as E.coli and staphylococcus aureus. His studies have found that on the average toilet seat there are 50 bacteria per square inch. "It's one of the cleanest things you'll run across in terms of micro-organisms," he says. It's our gold standard - there are not many things cleaner than a toilet seat when it comes to germs. We should be more worried about other household items, it seems. "Usually there are about 200 times more faecal bacteria on the average cutting board than on a toilet seat," he says. In the kitchen it doesn't necessarily get there through actual contact with faeces. It comes via raw meat products or the viscera from inside of the animal, where a lot of the faecal bacteria originate. Would Gerba be more inclined to chop his vegetables on a toilet seat then? More or Less: Behind the stats The programme returns to Radio 4 on Friday at 16:30. "It would seem a safer place," he says. Not that I would recommend it, but you might treat your cutting board a bit more like you do your toilet seat. It's because we all fear the dirtiness of the toilet seat so much that we regularly clean it, so perhaps this is the course of action we need to take with our chopping boards. But the filthiest culprit in our homes is the kitchen sponge or cloth. According to Gerba, there are about 10 million bacteria per square inch on a sponge, and a million on a dishcloth. In other words, a kitchen sponge is 200,000 times dirtier than a toilet seat, and a dishcloth is 20,000 times dirtier. This is the same the world over. "Always the dirtiest thing by far is the kitchen sponge," says John Oxford, professor of virology at the University of London and chair of the Hygiene Council - an international body that compares hygiene standards across the world. Its latest study examines samples from homes in nine different countries, and finds that 21% of "visibly clean" kitchen cloths actually have high levels of contamination. The cloths also fail the bacterial test which looks for E.coli. The study identifies faecal bacteria in other places around the home, and this varies from one country to another. Saudi Arabia has the dirtiest fridges, with 95% of the fridges in the study failing the bacteriology test for E.coli. And in South Africa, the dirtiest item is the seal in the bath, with almost two-thirds with unsatisfactory levels of E.coli and 40% for mould. Household hygiene 2010 Hygiene in the Home Study tested 180 homes in Australia, Canada, Germany, India, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, UK and US Bathroom seals caused most concern, with 70% failing bacterial tests Fridge interiors came second - more than 40% of homes failed tests on bacteria and mould build-up Kitchen towels were found to be unsatisfactory or unacceptably dirty in 36% of homes Cleanest surface tested was pushchair with only 6% failing bacterial tests "It's always a bit delicate which countries are the worst," says Oxford. We found that countries like Australia and particularly Canada are high up on the hygiene list... Countries near the bottom are fairly routinely, unfortunately, India and Malaysia. What about away from our homes? Gerba says the office is particularly bad. Many people don't realise they're talking dirty every time they pick up their phone, because they never clean it. The average desktop has 400 times more bacteria than on a toilet seat. Beware the supermarket too. "Shopping trolleys are really bad," warns Gerba. What's more, about half of reusable shopping bags have faecal bacteria in them. Some people have more faecal bacteria in their grocery bag than in their underwear, because they at least wash that. So what does this actually mean for us in terms of health risks? Faecal matter can be found on just over a quarter of our hands, new research suggests. In some cases the quantity of germs is equivalent to the number in a dirty toilet bowl. So why are the British so bad at washing their hands? "These numbers of bacteria, particularly for E.coli, are huge," says Oxford. E.coli is an indicator bacterium. It may not itself cause horrible disease, but it indicates faeces is around and that might contain other organisms like salmonella and shigella which really are virulently pathogenic. But we all touch these perhaps startlingly dirty things every day, and on the whole we don't get constantly ill. "We're jolly lucky that as we've evolved over two million years, we have a whole set of genes whose only function is to get the immune system in action," says Oxford. All of us, in all these countries we have gone to, rely on Lady Luck too much, keeping our fingers crossed or sitting on our hands. In a modern scientific society, what we want is people to realise there's a problem here and take action. Disclaimer: Charlotte Pritchard and the BBC do not recommend chopping any sort of food on your toilet seat.