Queen's Speech: Jeremy Hunt 'unable' to explain how new immigration laws will work Employers will also face "more substantial" fines for taking on illegal immigrants. The measures are included in an Immigration Bill which will also limit the ability of European immigrants to claim benefits and ensure that the right to reside in Britain on the basis of family commitments is not abused by criminals. Temporary migrants will also be charged for using the NHS and only those who have lived in an area for at least two years will qualify for social housing. The legislation has been drawn up as the Coalition struggles to contain the electoral threat posed by the UK Independence Party, which has wooed voters with its hard-line immigration policies. However, before the Queen had even addressed Parliament there was already concerns that ministers have not fully thought out exactly how the plans will be enforced. Mr Hunt refused to say how landlords will be made to check the immigration status of people attempting to let their properties. He insisted the Government will announce "details of how we sort out that particular problem in due course." When asked by Today programme presenter John Humphrys whether the Government is "going to legislate without having thought it through" Mr Hunt said: "No, I said we are going to announce how we do it, before we publish details of the bill and so you will be able to see how we address those particular issues." After being repeatedly asked to provide detail about the legislation Mr Hunt accused Mr Humphrys off attempting to "have a debate with me about the detail of an article in the Daily Telegraph." The Health Secretary then said the Government will only announce how the new law will work "when the time is right" Mr Hunt also insisted that the Government is yet to make a decision on whether to go forward with plans to bring in minimum alcohol pricing and plain cigarette packaging. Health campaigners are upset that there will be no mention in the Government's legislative programme of proposals to impose a minimum unit cost for alcohol and force cigarettes to be sold in plain packs. Both measures have been the subject of extensive consultation and appeared to have ministerial backing but have been stalled amid apparent splits within the Cabinet. "Just because something is not in the Queen's Speech does not mean the Government can't bring it forward as law, but we have not made a decision," he said. He laughed off a suggestion that the absence of the measures was down to concerns about the surge in popularity for Ukip, whose leader Nigel Farage is well known for his like of a drink and a smoke and firmly opposes such moves. We have not made our decision. And when we have made our decision we shall see if Mr Farage has a smile on his face or not," Mr Hunt said. Transcript of Jeremy Hunt's exchange with John Humphrys on the new immigration rules Humphrys: "That last one is very interesting isn't it - so if I'm somebody who looks a bit foreign, speaks with a foreign accent, and I go to a private landlord and say can I rent your room, or whatever it is, that landlord has got to check out my immigration status." Hunt: "Well, we will be announcing the details of how we sort out that particular problem in due course." Humphrys: "Oh, so you are going to legislate without having thought it through?" Hunt: "No, I said we are going to announce how we do it, before we publish details of the bill and so you will be able to see how we address those particular issues." Humphrys: "Well can't you give me a clue now then?" Hunt: "Well, what we are doing today is saying the problems that we are going to sort out but we are not publishing all 15 bills, we are just announcing areas we are going to tackle." Humphrys: "No, but this is pretty fundamental isn't it. If you are going to deal with private landlords then it would be nice to know roughly how you are going to do it. Hunt: "John you started this interview by saying that governments have long promised to tackle immigration and failed to do so, we have tackled immigration, we have reduced it." Humphrys: "And I am not asking you a specific, and trying to get some idea about what you are going to do about what you yourself have identified as a real problem area - reducing the pull factors." Hunt: "What you are trying to do is have a debate with me about the detail of an article in the Daily Telegraph." Humphrys: "It is fundamental, not a detail." Hunt: "Well, as I say we will in due course publish how we are going to address those issues." Humphrys: "Do you know how to do it? Have you worked it out yourselves? Is it you being a wee bit coy about it? Have you actually worked it out and you know what you are going to do and you will tell us when you think we are ready for it? Hunt: "When the time is right we will do it and I have been particularly focusing on what we are going to do in the NHS and those areas and those will be my responsibilities which I will be telling parliament about in due course."