Making changes to the penalty rates system was an issue raised at a national tourism conference in Canberra on Tuesday. Tourism and Transport Forum chief Ken Morrison was asked during the conference whether the industry wanted the government to reduce penalty rates. "What was clear talking to the coalition before the election is they were totally gun shy, they didn't really want to talk about it before the election," Mr Morrison said. They said: 'If you want this after the election, business is going to have to lead'. So you're seeing a range of business groups doing that now.