Son shown porn by YMCA childcare worker, mother tells commission What do you do when you discover a childcare worker accused of child molestation has been showing your six-year-old pornographic images? That he's been talking about you in smutty, derogatory terms and driving your son in a car to excursions without your permission? A Sydney mother did what most parents might do: she withdrew her son immediately from the YMCA childcare centre and contacted its management, the police and the Department of Community Services. In each case she got the brush-off, the mother - known as AT - has told the child sex abuse Royal Commission. The woman, from Sydney's southern suburbs, described her terror that her son, too, had been molested after she learnt about the child abuse allegations from a friend two weeks after they were first made. Jonathan Lord, has since been jailed for a minimum of six years on 13 child abuse charges, had told the six-year-old rude jokes about "sex, penises and vaginas," AT's son, known in the hearings as AJ, told her. AJ also told his mother that Lord had visited him at school and falsely claimed he'd been to school with her, she "liked sex" and had large breasts and a large bottom. Lord also said he would break AJ's arms and legs if he told anyone, according to the mother's evidence. Her son also told her Lord had shown him images of naked people on his laptop, including "a woman bending over and a man trying to kiss her bottom," AT said. At the YMCA Caringbah Centre, she said her calls "could not get past the front desk." Staff "very aggressively" said they could not give her any information. When she rang to tell the joint investigative response team at Hurstville Police station, which was handling the Lord matter, senior constable Leanne Kelly allegedly told AT her son would not be interviewed "unless he made a disclosure about actual sexual assault." The first time she called DOCS and explained what her son had disclosed to her, "the DOCS worker laughed at me," AT said. The second time, the person on the end of the phone echoed what the policewoman had said. She said that when she told YMCA general manager children's services, Liam Whitley, she wanted to make a complaint about her son riding in the car with Lord, she was told that "if he was driving in a YMCA vehicle, you have got nothing to complain about." A week after the first allegations against Lord surfaced, the children's services co-ordinator at YMCA Caringbah, Jacqui Barnat, wrote to staff reminding them of its policies and their duty of care towards children. "I feel at times we are a little 'carefree' with some aspects" and this might be risky for children and staff, Ms Barnat wrote. Five days later, staff were called to a meeting and told not to discuss the allegations with parents, the media or among themselves. They were warned "unauthorised disclosures" could lead to termination of their employment. The commission has been told no pornographic images were found on Lord's laptop or phone after Lord's arrest. The YMCA NSW has stated it has no history of child sex abuse cover-ups. A November 2012 letter to AT tendered in evidence from its chief executive officer Phillip Hare said: "We continue to struggle to understand why it is people think we have been complicit in (Lord's) actions," and "the YMCA shares your pain." Asked about her experience of having nowhere to lodge a complaint or find out more information about the YMCA after the allegations surfaced, AT agreed she was aware that a mandatory regulatory system since been put in place which includes the capacity to receive and investigate complaints. Outside the court the YMCA stated an invitation from Mr Hare to meet with AT about her concerns remained open.