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Dream – Sprinkled
Very short Word.
I am with others expecting an asteroid.
We are studying what will happen at impact location, and how other areas will be affected.
I feel some water sprinkle on me as the event occurs.
That is all that happens to me.
I am in North Carolina.
I like to analyze things.
I had been studying what would happen in my area since an asteroid had been predicted to hit the Atlantic / Caribbean area.
I was looking at place of predicted impact, height of wave, rate of travel of tsunami, how far inland the wave would go as it went up the east coast, ie distance of inundation inland vs distance from impact.
In case that happened, I wanted to mentally prepare, so I could figure out what next to do.
This must have stimulated the dream.
I feel like I got my answer in the dream. I am far away enough from the target area, and far enough inland to avoid being killed or seriously damaged.
However, any asteroid that is a major event like predicted would affect many people, and I would still have concern for their welfare and safety.
God would also expect me to help others if they were hurt near me.
This is just a dream, but I felt reassured that God would take care of me no matter what happened, even if it was close to me.
It is my prayer that all sincere believers in the Lord will only be "sprinkled" when bad times come.
294 Responses to "Dream – Sprinkled"
It amazes me that no matter how anchored we are in our Lord, all of us, every one of us, at some point need reassurance that we are doing the "right" thing and that we will be OK.
It seems that we would get to a point where we would no longer need these reassurances. But, at least for me, I continue to need them along the way, no matter how well I have delved into studies, or how many hours I have prayed.
Every one of us seems to reach that point of wanting to be told it is all going to be OK.
You are correct in that some object is coming, but all one has to do to know that is to read the events of the 2nd trumpet judgment:
"The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed."
I have always believed that the "something like a huge mountain" which John saw is most likely a future asteroid. I believe that the reason that it is "all ablaze" is because he is seeing it in the vision as it is coming though the earth's atmosphere. In regards to the details of the object, speed of impact, size, angle, location, etc., we can conclude that it will be sufficient enough to kill all of the creatures in that body of water, which will equal a third of all the creatures in all of the sea, as well as destroying all of the ships that will be in that body of water, equaling a third of the ships on the earth.
I believe that the result of the impact of this object, which is left to the readers conclusion is that, gigantic waves will be produced beyond what the world has seen. The energy that will be produced will impact the very bottom to the surface of whatever body of water that is impacted and therefore, nothing whether on the surface or at the very bottom or in between will be able to survive that amazing turbulence of the water.
What is also not mentioned in the Scripture is the fatality rate which is left up to the readers conclusion. Since all of the ships in that body of water will be destroyed, then how many people will be on those ships, both military, commercial and pleasure craft? Likewise, we saw the destruction caused by the 40 ft. waves as a result of the Tsunami of Japan and how many died, then what will be the result of waves that are hundreds of feet high do? And it won't just affect one area, but the shore of every continent in that body will be impacted from north, south, east and west. That being said, many of the inhabitants of those cities and towns on every coast will be completely destroyed with waves of that magnitude and not only on the coast, but also the cities and towns a hundred miles or more inland.
And this is just the 2nd trumpet judgment!
The good news is that, I believe that before the seal, trumpet and bowl judgments begin, the Lord will have appeared and gathered the dead and living believers to meet him in the air and take us back to the Father's house before the wrath of God begins.
So be alert as you look forward to and anticipate his return, continuing in faith and in prayer and loving all people as he commanded us, looking for every opportunity to glorify him with good works, but always remembering that we are saved by grace through faith in the shed blood of Christ and not by our own efforts, it is the gift of God and not by works.
The Apostle John says that it was not just "A Mountain" that crashed into the sea, but "A Large Mountain"..I would say it will be around 6 Miles across!..So when the tip of the Mountain hits the sea, the other end will be where Airliners fly….around 32,000 feet!…If it does hit the Atlantic. The tsunami that would hit the U.S East Coat would be around one mile high!…but the resultant impact would be far greater than that!…Worldwide Fires,massive Weather changes, earthquakes, Volcanos and the like….It will be a catastrophic experience worldwide!
Any and all the natural disasters on earth are brought about, necessitated and are tied to the way man has utilized or abused the water resources of the planet, and the eternal cycle created perpetuate this system that is at the center of the planetary life of earth.
Eden, or Ed-eni- where in Hebrew roots for the word, its surmised to mean pleasure, however, the Ed also means the mighty, in both Hebrew and Sanskrit, where eni refers to spring. Hence Edeni, also means mighty water spring. And the narrative attests to this meaning, for its said that from Eden flowed forth the spring that bifurcated into the four heads of waters that navigate the entire planet.
I just couldn't help but see the similarity of the water sprinkle of your dream, and the re-establishment of the river of life that is caused forth in the return of the Messiah as King of glory, for He would first renew the heavens and the earth, that have been waxen old and corrupted by the habitation and activities of evil creatures.
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The problem I have is that the probability of an asteroid strike on Earth is 100% but the probability of it happening within say 10 years is a lot less. My reaction to "we will get hit" is a lot more relaxed than my reation to "we will get hit within two years". So apart from the "" "only God knows" answer, does anyone have any time span predictions? I would hate to run out of money too soon.
Steve! You made me laugh this morning, (but, not so good while I am holding my coffee) – I feel a lot like you. It'll get here when it gets here.
As for money . . . what makes you think we'll be using money in a few years? lolol
Be prepared, hold on to the Lord's feet, rest in His Word, all will come in God's time.
I would like to suggest a book to read called "IMPACT" by Gerrit Verschuur, and one particular Chapter within it called"Reconstructing the Crime".It gives a very vivid detailed account of what the effects of a Comet or Asteroid crashing into the Sea would do.It matches with all the prophetic things that are going to happen to the Earth very well!
The Earth will be hit directly by an Asteroid by 2028, then after that a Comet will either hit the earth too, or it will be overcome by it's toxic gasses as it passes through our atmosphere, and not actually collide with earth!
That is all bad news as I will run out of money in January.
Happy Christmas.xxx
Just joking, never stop working. But the things is … how many Christians under 50 have pension schemes? You see it just doesn't fit does it? The average house price in UK is $0.5 M so what hope do the young have with this elite system. do you say "get back to work to them?"
So would you say to them don't bother with a pension or a mortgage?
All that matters is the end date.
Steve – I must live in the moment. I live in the U.S. so it is not much different than the U.K., housing here is crazy. Most of my live I could never afford one, so in my retirement years I am renting and don't see any change in that scenario.
But I live in the here and now, with an awareness that something is coming to a close. And for me, that can be relative, close, near, soon, could mean this year, this decade, but most likely in my lifetime. So I do what I need to do to keep a roof over my head and food on the table now and in the foreseeable future. When I can, I help others to do the same.
Nothing will ever be "taken" from me, because in the end, I believe, all I ever truly have is my relationship with God. I had it coming into this world, and it is all I will take with me going out of this world.
But when I can live in the moment, I have no regrets of the past of the "if only"s nor fears of the future of the "what if"s. That doesn't mean that each day is easy, but it helps keep things in perspective.
Yes true Denise but it would be nice to know the timing wouldn't it, then we could all just relax and say "two years, who cares"
The real problem here is that they were saying "within my lifetime" a hundred years ago. And David Wilcocks etc are just froth. So does anyone really have a date clue? Conchita will wait for the warning and then say the miracle is within a year. Well when I see the warning I could say that.
Rock meaning through out N.T
Matt. 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The STONE which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
MATT 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
MATT 21:44 And whosoever shall fall on this STONE shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
Stone 4348 = stumbling stone – stumbling block (2)
1) a stumbling block, i.e. an obstacle in the way which if one strikes his foot against he stumbles or falls; that over which a SOUL STUMBLES i.e. by which is caused to sin – The soul is Spiritual
MATTHEW 7:24- Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a ROCK:
MATTHEW 7:25- And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a ROCK .
MATTHEW 7:26- And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
MATTHEW 7:27- And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
MATTHEW 7:28 – And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
MATTHEW 7:29- For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
Matt. 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this ROCK I will build my church; and the GATES OF HELL l shall not prevail against it.
Rev. 6: 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the MOUNTIANS
REV 6:16 And said to the mountains and ROCKS, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
REV 6:17- For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Rock 4073 petra ""feminine of the same as 4074″";
AV — rock (16) – a rock, cliff or ledge 1a) a projecting rock, crag, rocky ground 1b) a rock, a large stone
1c) a metaph. a man like a rock, by reason of his firmness and strength of
1) Peter meaning "a rock or a stone", was originally called Simon which means "hearer".
Mountains 3735 probably from an obsolete oro (to rise or "rear", perhaps akin to 142, compare 3733);
AV — mountain — mount — hill
1) a mountain; a proverbial phrase, used by rabbinic writing, to remove mountains, i.e. to accomplish the most difficult, stupendous, incredible thing
142 – 142 » airo – take up — take away– away with — lift up (4)
1) to raise up, elevate, lift up
2) to take upon one's self and carry what has been raised up
3) to bear away what has been raised, carry off
John was "raised up" in Rev. 4 and Jesus told him to walk his MOUNTIAN up to the top to see the whole panoramic view of the "mystery of the Revelation of Jesus Christ' Rev, 1:3
And yes today we believer's are to walk up our mountain and conquer it before it crushes us.
Bottom line: Their are only 2 kingdoms in which a believer can walk in. That the Worlds Kingdom or Jesus Christ Kingdom. Real believers are the Rocks that build their house upon the ROCK of revelation not on the sand. Rock by Rock or faith to faith. Until we become on solid ground
Both these kingdoms are Spiritual rocks =foundations – for which mankind lives in or on. Are you going to let Babylon be your downfall. Babylon is the whole world. Its gone insane. Like a great mountain of unbelief and full of Darkness in this world right now as I speak. We are the great light of the Mountain of God. That keeps us from all harm. We remove mountains, i.e. to accomplish the most difficult, stupendous, incredible things –
We were all born with a great Mountain to conquer. And we can only do that by the power of the Mountian of God where Jesus Christ died, and rose again. And then that great stone was rolled away and Christ Raptured back to God himself. Jesus has rolled our great mountains out of the way if we would just believe Him and do what the Word says to do.
Check out the word Rock or Mountains and see what it is. I layed it out for you for easy reading. The World is hiding behind a false Rock in the dens of the world and it will not save them. But we are hid in the cleft of Christ and their mountains and rocks of darkness cannot over come us who believe. We are Sealed unto the day of Redemption Eph. 4:30 Christ has already put us away into his Kingdom and nothing can hurt us. Not even death as Apostle Paul says. Our death will be a sweet release into Eternity.
The world should be astonished by our doctrines of light.
For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
Hell – wrath – tribulations cannot prevail over the Rock of Revelation just like Peter had.
You can read it in a natural sense. But I prefer the Spiritual 6th. sense of the Revelation of Christ.
It is about 2 years away.
But, I care more today for the Church of Sardis and the Laodicean Church more than I did 4 years ago.
"Thus says the Lord: 'Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the Gentiles are dismayed at them'" (Jeremiah 10:2, NKJV).
Psalm 25 – 28 applies
Marianne, Jesus said it would be as the days of noah…..nephilim would show up, mating with humans,
No that was thousands of years ago. It just means, no one will believe in the end and then the end will come suddenly. (like a thief in the night)
"read jesus in matt 24…look at the signs he gives…..do you see them now?"
No but those signs will take months not years
DJ "You have a bit time left " How long? If you think about 2 years away, I agree with you 2018 being the end of the trumpets. (1948+70) But some supporting evidence would be useful.
Evidence —–
I don't really get 2 years from that page.
To all – Most of you are Blind, wretched, and naked and don't know it.
Marianne – you are so carnal and believe you are so spiritual with your dreams. The dreams brings "attention to you" which you love . But you also got to have helpers to help you "help yourself" to even stand – Someday you will stand alone as we all will. May God have mercy upon you then. And your little santa helpers. When a revelation from the Word comes to you. You all reject it mostly. You mostly all living in a fantasy future land. And are missing the NOW message of today. Israel was just like this forum. They could not understand John or Jesus. A New day was upon them. And Israel failed the WORD test of the NOW message of John and Jesus and then Paul and the Apostles. Israel still looked to the future as well, and just dismissed all the "New Wine Spiritual Revelation of their day" except for the chosen few. Oh how I would not of wanted to be in their shoes in 70 A.D. When the mountains did shake and rumble and wiped out Israel by their Rome Caesar they said we have no god but Caesar. They were looking for Messiah and picked Caesar. What a dead church, so blind, and naked when the "Word of Revelation of God" was walking right among them. They said HE was mad, a devil. yeaaaa
Jesus told his disciples that THIS generation will not pass till they = apostles see the son of God coming in his great glory. Matt. 24 is already fulfilled and you could learn from it in our last day. But you will not have it. You all love your fantasies , and goblins, beasts, 7 year tribulation periods, 2 prophets coming you all think. And then you have no idea of what the "Rapture" even is. You all think the beast is just one man coming in the stone Temple and then Jesus coming and through him out and takes over for a while in the stone temple. Then after 3 1/2 more years . Then their is going to be a great big stone temple building coming down to earth and ploppimg on the ground in Israel. You all get raptured out and and then you come back on a white horse with Him. And you all wondering who the Babylon is today. Oh and then Babylon is going to be destroyed. You all are still sucking on your bottle. Just like Israel did when Jesus came. Most of you are all the same as them. Israel was so far off from the truth. And that is what destroyed them. They ""did not have an ear to hear"" let alone to see the Spiritual meaning that the Prophets gave to them with "Thus saith the Lord. There scholar's were just dead men walking. And the whole of Jerusalem fell on them in 70 A.D. Where was their Messiah at. It was a little to late to do the right now.
You all have despised the Word of Truth. So be it to you. You will never understand or drink the New Wine unless you repent and seek Him with your whole heart. When is the last time you got drunk on a revelation of the Word of God by your own studies. The ""Revelation of the Word"" will come when the comer sells out everything. Cause he's got to have it. By what the Spirit saith unto the church. Not what the Nico – latian spirit. It is what seduces the fleshy soul and mind. – Man teaching Mans doctrines. = death.
Wow, Tom . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . so this means you are, . . . . what, now?
In all of this, are you really all that better than the rest of us here?
And, I like some of your previous posts. It's like a gremlin got a hold of your computer or something, well, no, you don't believe in …… elfs.
Never mind.
God bless.
Aaah…… Tom York, the Amilennialist! Your group of false teachers always reminds me of a little girls tea party; no real tea, no real guests and no real pastries and you look at prophecy the same way.
Tom said:
"Jesus told his disciples that THIS generation will not pass till they = apostles see the son of God coming in his great glory."
First, I would suggest that you go back and take English class all over again, and pay attention this time. Prior to Jesus stating the above prophecy, he likened his coming to end the age, as when we see the fig tree and all of the trees blossoming, then we could know that summer is near. In the same way, WHEN YOU SEE ALL OF THESE SIGNS TAKING PLACE, THEN KNOW THAT THE END IS NEAR. When Jesus said, "This generation" grammatically speaking, it would have to be the generation where those signs appear. He was not saying "this generation" referring to the one he was living in, but the one where those signs appear. To interpret the Scripture your way, would be to force the signs into Jesus' generation, instead of the signs determining that last generation.
Tom said:
" Matt. 24 is already fulfilled and you could learn from it in our last day."
Matthew 24 [B]HAS NOT[/B] been fulfilled. The only fulfillment that has taken place is that the temple has been destroyed. The rest of Mt.24 is directed to the question of "what will be the signs of your coming and the end of the age" Jesus' return ends the age of human kingdoms and begins his physical, millennial reign on earth from the throne of king David, from Jerusalem in fulfillment of prophecy. All of the prophecies regarding Christ were fulfilled literally, therefore, there is no reason to apply a spiritual meaning to the prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled.
Tom said:
" You all think the beast is just one man coming in the stone Temple and then Jesus coming and through him out and takes over for a while in the stone temple. "
This is exactly what Scripture says is going to take place Tom:
"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God."
Did you get that?
"All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb's book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world."
The above Scriptures have not yet been fulfilled, but will be fulfilled 3 1/2 years after that man of lawlessness makes his covenant with the many for that last seven year period. Neither has the abomination that causes the desolation been fulfilled, but will be in the middle of that seven year period, just as Scripture proclaims.
Tom said:
"You think then their is going to be a great big stone temple building coming down to earth and plopping on the ground in Israel."
No, not stone Tom! The New Jerusalem is made out of pure gold ; )
"The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass."
No Tom, the New Jerusalem is not going to come down out of this present heaven and plop down on this present earth. For according to Scripture, John says the following:
"Then I saw [B]"a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away,[/B] and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband."
So as you can see from the Scripture above Tom, this present heaven and earth will have passed away (departed), then the new heaven and new earth will have been created prior to the New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God.
Tom said:
"You all get raptured out and then you come back on a white horse with Him."
Yes Tom, that is exactly what the word of God proclaims, as can be garnered from the following Scripture:
"I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. [B]The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.[/B]
And who are those armies?
"They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—[B]and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers."[/B]
In case you are thinking that those on white horses are angels, it would be an improper designation to refer to angels as "his called, chosen and faithful followers," for these titles are referring to his faithful followers, that is, believers in Christ.
Tom said:
"You all have despised the Word of Truth."
I believe that it is you who have despised the Word of Truth with your prepackaged, preconceived teaching born from false teachers, which you replace with the truth while labeling it as the truth.
Where Scripture states that the Lord himself will descend from heaven and the dead in Christ will rise first and then we which remain and are still alive will be caught up to meet him in the air, this promise is for the entire church and not just a minuscule slice of it. Jesus said, "I will build my church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it." Well, the church is still in the process of being built and when the Lord descends from heaven, then all who have died in Christ will rise first and then the living believers will be changed, in a moment and will be caught up with them, where the Lord will take us back to the Fathers house (John 14:1-3) just as he promised. Those who are not watching, who are not anticipating his return, will remain here and will be subjected to the wrath of God, which will be carried out via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments.
"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."
You Tom, as well as many others, are fulfilling the above Scripture. You have been lead away from the truth by this false teaching and the world is continually filling up with false teachers and false teaching.
Repent and believe in the word of God only!
Well I like you and your blog Marianne and I am not naked, you will be pleased to hear.
1 Corinthians 15:52
It will happen in a moment, in the blink of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, those who have died will be raised to live forever. And we who are living will also be transformed.
Marianne.You do indeed have a different concept of the tribulation and rapture from me.
As Tom York has discovered, self importance is the last test.
That's what I like about coming here, Steve, we can be naked or not, we can agree or not, we can understand or not – but there is very little pouting and stomping of feet in temper tantrum like fashion, though it does happen on occasion when someone implodes.
Denise, I bet that I am chosen and you are not. Or if you are chosen I bet I was chosen first. 🙂
Well only the meek will inherit the Earth so don't be so sure.
You don't realise what you are missing Marianne
MATTHEW 13:10 † And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
MATTHEW 13:11 † He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
» 12 † For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
» 13 † Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
» 14 † And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
» 15 † For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
» 16 † But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
» 17 † For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
Thanks heavens you get it Tom. So you will understand the importance of this headline and why it happened in the days of Noah also?
We are all not chosen; "Many are called (invited) but only a few are chosen."
Exactly. You will see everyday that self importance is at the root of all mans problems, even in the church and education. It is a honey trap that 'all' fall for. One day the magnetic field will fail and Christ will return to raise our consciousness. All that is dead will die and all that is living will live. (those who have will be given etc.)
So 2018? I wouldn't mind a CLEAR sign in 2015.
Yea Steve – The same tribulation that killed all of Noah's age. "Translated" the 8 individuals to the other side. That is what most believers call today a Rapture into heaven. "But no". It was a "translation into another new world" with new dimensions. Noah Like John in Revelation 4 was "translated" into another dimension of time and saw things he had never seen before. You see your "Revelation of Christ" is your Translation. As we grow more and more into maturity. Time just starts fading away from the old worldly flesh man. The Brand new Birth translates you "from" the other side of hell and into the Heavenlies. You go from a life of a time element and then when born again you go into Eternal elements. Time is no more. Rev.10:6 Cause you have become a Eternal Son of God. And Sealed in by the Holy Spirit unto the day of your redemption. Eph. 4:30. And then God starts us all over again on this same planet. To shine in the Saviors Character . Same thing happened in N.T. same thing in " our day" is happening. Most all of Christianity today mixes up the Rapture making it like a Resurrection. That is not right. The Rapture is being "Translated" into another Kingdom while you are living right here on earth. Translated is the true word for what people call the rapture today. That is what happened to Enoch and Elijah. Remember the Bible says " In Adam all men die" The flesh man is going NO WHERE but back to Clay where he came from. Enoch and Elijah were translated into the "Kingdom of God" as Paul says in Ephesians we are seated in the Heavenlies. Yet we living on Earth and our flesh man will have to go back to the grave of clay. But the real you is your Celestial man that lives inside of you. That is the real you and that man is the one that is going in the Resurrection. Why – Because you have had a "translation in this life" from sin and death into Eternal life. So simple yet so profound for scholars of this day.
Enoch and Elijah became 'translated" into a brand new world cause they understood the mystery for their day. But they still had to die. Or the bible contradicts itself.
All this "left behind" phoney baloney is making good money for a lot of people. But in the end it will be just like Israel in 70 AD. Because they listened to their scholars that actually said we have no king but Caesar. =denominations of clergy over the common minds. This false doctrine Could very well crush their faith into oblivion. Its never good to believe a lie when it comes to the Bible. Rome is still at it and joining all pagan religion with himself while I write this post.
The Rapture theory is only 180 years old. I have read how is slowly it crept into the Pentecostal and Charismatic realms. And now most all Denomination's believe it. Its a false Heresy from the pits of hell.
God would have to repent for the millions that He let burn on the crosses and children sliced to pieces in the arena's of Rome. Are we better than our Master or the Apostles and all the millions that died under the Caesar's and the Popes of the dark ages.
Look today and they are cutting off Christians heads today. Right now as we speak. The news is having a special this coming weekend about the martyr's dying over seas and the middle east. I just heard where a family with 4 children would not deny Jesus Christ. The children even got on their knees and would not confess a Muslim doctrine but said they believe in Jesus Christ. They cut all for of their heads off. And we over here thinking we gonna get out of such things. God help our blinded eyes. This is why Im so passionate for Gods truth. Trying to awake the slumbering church that is in America.
"The Rapture is being "Translated" into another Kingdom …….The flesh man is going NO WHERE but back to Clay where he came from."
But then the flesh man will be destroyed. This material world and material bodies will be destroyed.
You are totally correct Tom….. Any dates??
Thanks Steve – but i don't do dates. Jesus said "are time is always" in the Now. America could be judged at any minute to me. With all the things going on she cannot last to long before something drastic will happen.
Every Person that has lived and every Nation on this planet will be judged by how they walked according to the "Word of the Lord". The great white throne judgment is going on right now. It's the living word in the midst of our heart and soul. Man's heart is the great white throne. It excepts the Word or rejects the Word. The chosen few that live by that Word and Love the Word and have a thirst for it will "shed their snake skin off " and become New Creation's, and have no worries of a body, and soul death. All others that will not "shed their snake skins" and do not have the Love of God in them are destined for a body and soul death. When I was a sinner I heard the "Word of God" and it condemned me = "judged me guilty" and I had to go to the alter and Jesus rescued me. Their will not be a line standing with a "great big stone seat where God is sitting". That is a fairy tale as well from the CC.
Rev. 1 show's the "Deity of Christ" with His White Robe and Hair symbolize this as the Word of authority to all. Like in Europe some judges still wear white wigs which declare judgment seat.
The White throne judgement seat is during our life we live while on earth.
Every generation has to walk by the light that God gave that generation.
Judgement begins in the House of God. The soul that sinneth will surely die, and that is the 2nd. death. Of the body , soul, and mind.
Matt. 28:10 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to "destroy both soul and body" in hell.
There are only 2 kinds of Seed. Serpent seed or Gods Seed. Only 2 are sown on this planet into the hearts of men and women who will freely chose one or the other. If you have Christ seed living in you we have no need to worry about the future. This day is a NOW message not a future message. Living in the future is as bad as living in the past. You cannot change things. So live every day as it could be your last day on this planet. Meaning your judgment ""time"" is over. You either were Eternal or Not Eternal.
God bless you Steve – Palisade
"There are only 2 kinds of Seed. Serpent seed or Gods Seed. Only 2 are sown on this planet into the hearts of men and women who will freely chose one or the other. If you have Christ seed living in you we have no need to worry about the future."
But the seeds became interbred/mixed. Some have only serpent seed and no hope but most have both seed and need to find the truth about what they are. If they fail then this is the end time judgement.
I am not a Biblical scholar by any means. The Bible does dictate that we can not know the time of the return of our Lord, but we can know the season. I read somewhere that 100 years ago there were no real signs of our Lord's returning. Yes, He will come as a thief in the night, but we are not in darkness, we are children of light, so that day should not overtake us. We should watch for the signs and be sober. We have been appointed to receive salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. (1Th 5:9 KJV) People today who are in the 80's and older who are believers are no longer looking for signs. They are listening. Listening for the sound of the trumpet.
The Bible speaks about the various signs that we will know He is near, "knocking" at the door. Today one hardly has to open a newspaper (if one still does that) or turn on a news station and somewhere nature has ravished a corner of the planet, either through earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes. Or, nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom. We are slaughtering each other, abroad, and here at home. Most of the time when mentioning these as part of the signs people will mock and snicker stating, "Yeah, yeah, tell me something new. Those have been happening for ages." Famines and pestilences? Maybe that, too. But, just when did people start starving in Africa, or right here in the United States? When did the ebola virus break out in Africa? Wasn't that just this year? It is the frequency, I believe, which is what should make us take notice. "All these are the beginning of sorrows." (Mat 24:8 KJV)
The first sign was the Declaration of Balfour at the end of WWI in 1917 and adopted by the League of Nations in 1922. This declaration was a letter from British Foreign Minister Arthur James Balfour to British Baron Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild. The Turks had sided with the Germans so when the Germans "lost" the war, so did the Turks and the German and Turkish territories were divided up, part of which included the Ottoman Empire containing the homeland of the Jewish people which the Romans had declared to be Palestine after the Jewish revolt in 135 AD. The Balfour Declaration was the public support of of a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Then there was the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 which mandated Britain be entrusted with the temporary administration of Palestine. Both Arab and Jewish inhabitants felt betrayed. Others believed the Declaration itself that the return of Christ was just around the corner.
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ssfc0005/The%20Balfour%20Declaration%20and%20its%20consequences.html A little hard for me to digest, but a great review nonetheless. And, http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-balfour-declaration (You can Google the declaration and treaty, there are many articles on it that I looked at.)
And here we are today. As Marianne has suggested, watch for the division of Jerusalem.
I'm not a history scholar either. There is probably someone who could support something that happened before WWI and the Balfour Declaration and another person could point to something after. But, to me anyway, 1917 and all the events that have occurred AFTER the Balfour Declaration certainly point to major changes in the Middle East, and the beginning of signs. For all I know Jesus could return tonight, or perhaps it will be in the next millennium. But I live my life today that He is coming in my lifetime. I'm not 80, but I'm no spring chicken, either. In many ways I wish it will be sooner than later. And, it can't be soon enough.
I try to understand it all so much myself, maybe even cheat a little. A date would sure be nice. But, putting history and anything scholarly behind me, I just plain feel it in my bones. And so I live my life accordingly. A life I would choose to live, even if in some way we KNEW His return was 1,000 years away. To know Him more every day. To live my life more like Him, every day. And living my life isn't just about the things I do and say, but it is also about my thoughts and my intentions. He lives in the very depths of my core and of every fiber of my being. And, I have a long way to go to get there. Yes, I will be judged. And I will answer for all the times I acted, and judged others, and for all those times I didn't act.
Talk about bickering and battling . . . I saw a program on, the History Channel, I believe it was, where monks have been feuding for decades, even centuries at a church in Bethlehem. The program depicted how if one monk swept an area too far over from his own distinct area, the area he "invaded" would cause others to come out swinging, usually with brooms, but a fight would break out. All because one servant of God, sweeping an area near where Christ was born, wasn't staying within the lines. A 1700 year old church in Bethlehem, where resident clerics—from the Greek Orthodox and Armenian Orthodox churches and the Franciscan order of the Roman Catholic Church, who care for the church, fight with each other on almost a daily basis, because they are jealous of the other.
"Feuding monks at the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem don't just cast the first stone—they stockpile rocks in anticipation of future altercations. Several holy men landed in the hospital two Christmases ago after a fight broke out over the dusting of church chandeliers. The occasional brawls at the 1,700-year-old basilica, believed to mark the birthplace of Jesus Christ, reflect the difficulty of housing three Christian denominations under a single roof."
Yea I agree with you Steve. We are all born by the Spirit of God coming into our little body when we were born. That is Gods life. And sooner or later the human has to make a choice and decide which Spirit is he going to nurture to maturity. The Spiritual man or the flesh man. = Tree of life or death. You can pervert the original Life source by just wanting you own way and you start loving sin = doubt. Then you slowly start manifesting a "character that is foreign and hates God's will". And then your 'translation' becomes a manifested sinner which is a citizen of hell or Sheol. Sooner or later you will not even retain God in your thoughts. And you become like beasts of the fields. Rom. 1 tells it pretty plain. You will never want to shed you snakeskin. "that is the Mark of the Beast. When men and women cannot retain God in their thinking. Look at America today. You will see it everywhere. If your are spiritual. Yet they say the believe in god. But its the god of this world they seek.
Adam was a true seed Son of God to begin with. And He remained that way. He had the "Revelation of Gods Word " and could overcome the Blood issue. Even though he sinned as well. He was a chosen vessel. This is why they had 2 different children at birth=twins. One was Serpent seed – the other was of Gods seed through Adam. Sin will always bring forth perversions of sons of gods. They are called fallen angels. The stars that fall to the ground.
To understand your "election" also think of Abraham getting in a hurry and listening to Sara. That he should go into her servant maid. Well Abraham just like Adam did the same thing. And it produced an Ishmael. A wild man just like Cain. He had twelve princes. Then came Issac the real son of promise that God chose for them and he had twelve princes. Now we know today and see them clearly – Christians and Sinners are completely different in their soul cravings. But God made if possible that all could come and receive a new heart and soul restoration by their own free will. But like I said in the other post. Jesus Died and rose for the whole world. But HE KNEW the whole world would not except him. Only God is the Alpha and Omega and knows the beginnings from the end of each life. So your election is a very precious treasure from God. Guard it at all times. By living by faith=revelation. Seeking him always with a attitude of Love and Praise.
God saw it fit to create Darkness and Light –
To keep it simple, The serpent seed (fallen angels) is an alien gene pool that is trying to overcome the indigenous gene pool by interbreeding. If you find your 'original meek spirit' you will see the truth. The serpent seed is arrogant and aggressive and feeds from the tree of death. They think that they will complete their take over of Earth but Jesus has other plans for them… like fire from the sky.
"The Day of the Lord" and His return (not knowing the day/hour) are two events not one in the same.
1 Thess 5:1-10 addresses a period of time known "The Day of the Lord."
We don't know the day/hour of His return.
But, we should not be surprised by the beginning of "The Day of the Lord."
Throughout Amos, Joel and other prophets we read phrase like this "in that day" and other phrase which reference – "The Day of the Lord."
Personally, I don't need to wait to see a comet, asteroid or other object from space hitting the Atlantic Ocean or anywhere on Earth to prepare for "The Day of The Lord."
We would expect such "wrath" to occur once that Day begins and before His return.
Your right about the timeline (generation and Jubilee years), knowing that all things, including "The Day of the Lord" will be competed before His return (Matthew 24).
That Day sure seems to begin after the current "Blood Moon" cycle (ending Feasts of Tabernacles, 2015).
"And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke. The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes.
And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those who escape, as the Lord has said, and among the survivors shall be those whom the Lord calls" (Joel 2:30-32, NKJV).
BTW, the Hebrew year 5776 begins September, 2015.
5776 is an important year to the "all seeing eye" followers too.
We are getting closer by the week to The Day of the Lord.
Psalm 34
DJ – Yes, the Day of the Lord and His return are separate events, I was not clear and I sometimes inappropriately intertwine the two.
I have often wondered about the four blood moons and the forth that occurs around on the Feast of Tabernacles (9/28/15). Just like I "feel things in my bones" I really feel the year of 2015 to be a huge awakening and turning point for many. I don't have a sense of "what" just that it "is."
And, though I feel it will be a trying time, I don't have a sense of doom and gloom but a sense of awe, wonder, and excitement, and, maybe not new beginnings, but definitely different ones.
I am excited for this New Year.
Hey Steve here is your question and answer
Well many are mixed seed now so I hope. But that is a question that I have pondered for months. I think those are the ones that Jesus was trying to save with his warnings of temptation. i.e. follow the spirit not the deception of the mind.
There are 3 classes of people in the World. The Believer, Make Believer, and the Sinner. 3 is perfection – The world is filled with all 3.
The seed is a "Spiritual seed now" dear brother. The Original Seed is and was always Christ the Word. Moses had Christ in him. The Apostle Paul said it and I believe it.
As I try to explain it. Jesus Christ was the pure UN-adulterated Son of God.= No sex birth and he came from heaven to earth=sinless. By the spoken word. He was the pure seed that took Adam's place for us. The make-believers are fakes but God knows who they are cause they want to walk with Christ yet they love the world and its philosophies of religion . And the un-believers never did want nothing to do with the real God or His Character. They love the world only.
Remember also in Noah's day. Noah was the only one that did not have tainted blood. In other words he never mixed it with whoredoms and God was with Him and Noah received the Grace of God. So the Serpent Seed actually went across the flood with Noah through the woman of his sons wives. But like I said they all blended into mankind. Remember we were all at one time fallen creations. Noah and his wife did produce a "Christ seed" just as Adam and Eve begot Abel. They begat Shem.
Satan was humanity that fell to the ground as a snake because of his sin. The snake became the symbol of mankind in his lost condition of sin. Remember the scriptures about the snake was cursed and upon his belly he shall eat dust all the days of his life. He was a human and I myself believe it was Adam. And after the fall of Adam a Spoken word son out of the earth. Adam and Eve had little babies that crawled upon their bellies upon the ground. Till they grew up and chose their path of Character they loved the most. One was humble and gave the right sacrifice the other was just the opposite. A killer and a proud man that wanted to rule his world.
Remember in the last post to you. The snake can shed it skin and it becomes new again. God can take us human's and renew or old creation as well. As I think of the prophets speaking of the worm turning into a Butterfly. He was a worm at one time. But "translated" into a butterfly. He was raptured as they call it today. But when you see the butterfly you also see the worm that is attached to him. The worm was earthy born on a limb and no worm is cute. Yet morphed into something else better. Translated and Transformation is steps of Nature. That's why in Romans 1 that Paul said Nature itself proves their is a God that made all things. But they would not believe it. And went their own way back to the beastly carnal nature of the cunning and poisonous snake "character" they were before. Cain could not shed his nature or character. He was just a worm all his live. But WHY – he was just a snake offspring to begin with. As was Judas. God had to make a em-perfect man so that the Godly man would shine in righteousness over the flock. It takes night and daylight to complete one day. God created it all to be that way. To prove His Love for us that lived in this darkness for a time.
I hope you getting something out of these little teaching bro. Steve. They are not for everyone I know. But they are a few that are seeking more. That's who I'm after. When 90% of all Christians in America think their is no "absolute" then the whole of the church is blind, wretched and naked. Just read Rev. 3:14 to the end. I'm not putting no buddy down and Jesus is the one that said it not me. I just see the darkness that has covered America just as it did in Egypt. Yet their is a Goshen to live in till we out of here. And I ain't talking about no rapture. I have already been "translated" into the Love of Jesus Christ and His word. Translation is the true word for the rapture.
I am living in the Heavenlies right now. Ephesians 2 proves it to all that want to see the light. Jesus died on the cross "as the serpent on the pole". That ought to wake somebody else up on this forum. Moses serpent on the pole was just a "shadow of of Christ taking the cross" that why God put on a flesh body to save His only begotten Children from sin. And healing our snake bitten curse away for us so we can be Eternal just like Him. And getting us up off our belly ridden sin. Jesus "translated" and lifted us up and stood us up on our feet again likened unto Him. Like He did to Himself after the death and burial and resurrection He "Translated " back to God into Heavenly places forever. It was finished. We are not just laying down for satan to kick us around and eat dust all our life till we die.
Bad seed goes way back –
"All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world' (Rev.13:7-9).
Tom Genesis 6:4
"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men"
notice "and also after that". The serpent gene was not carried on the ark by Noah's wife it was carried by the giants who also survived. How did they survive? They are serpent aliens. You should drop aggressive language like 'whoredoms' and just understand who the serpents and giants are and where they came from.
The choice the mixed genes make will be on taking the sign of the beast or not i.e. those not raptured.
Marianne, I love how these boards progress (transgress?) from one subject to another as our thoughts and hearts lead us. Here we go from your dream about asteroids, to Giants, and then some.
I usually don't have dreams of any real significance, let alone anything that made much sense. Recently, though, I did have a dream – I was at some sort of tumbler or washer (seriously, I had this dream) and I realized the stones inside weren't just any old rocks being scrubbed, they were diamonds, all sparkling. And there were all shapes and sizes,
As these rocks began to come out of this washer / tumbler machine down this ramp, there began to emerge these milky ones, not like the very clear ones. Then this voice said to me, "Even the cloudy ones have merit. They are valuable too."
End of dream.
Did you watch the video to the end?
Jim is mocking Believers and Almighty God.
Bro Steve – Cain was the first anti-christ that rebelled against God and was Marked as anti-christ. Serpent seed and had a devilish Character. Giants have nothing to do with that. This was way before the Giant thing. And I did not say it was Noah's wife but it was the son's wife's that carried the spirit of anti-christ across the abyss. And also Ham must have been one himself. He finally manifested what was in him. Their is not enough room to explain it all. ON one post. God bless.
Cain was the first anti-christ , yes
Cain and Abel were the two blood lines (you can work out what happened to Eve for this to be the case yourself).
you say "but it was the son's wife's that carried the spirit of anti-christ across the abyss"
No it wasn't. I have no idea why do you think that or why you ignore the Bible quote "There were giants in the earth in those days (of Noah); and also after that" The giants carried the serpent seed. You are just ignoring Biblical evidence to support your opinion of the "son's wives " carrying the serpent seed. I have no idea why.
The Giants/Nephelim means shining ones or serpents, they are the product of sons of God / fallen angels and wo(men). After the purifying flood they once again cross bred with humans to reintroduce the serpent seed.
Or did you think God said to Noah "build an ark but make sure there are some satanists on board" or did God make Adam and Eve with serpent seed as a part of them?
Steve I agree with most of what you say. I was just saying that Cain was of the Serpent in the beginning. He was the 1st marked man and you can trace it all down through the bible. Eve was the first one in the transgression as Paul says. Adam feel in sin to save his bride. Being a type of Christ. They produced Twins and one was Cain a Marked man and other was killed by Cain. With no remorse, or nothing. Cains line were the great builder's of Nations that ruled the common people. And you can see in Nimrod the Babylon it produced.
Palisade – Have a good holiday season
Twins? transgression is different from mixing seeds. You are confusing Eves transgression with the cross breeding of Man with Serpents. Never mind.
The serpent seed are reprobates period. Cain gave sacrifice to God as well as did Abel. Abel had faith = a Revelation — Cain never had no faith to begin with by not having a revelation of Gods will. Like I said he had No repentance, Remorse, did not want Gods grace. Even though he sacrificed to God at one time he was just a religious man as Nimrod, Pharaoh's etc. God gave him the chance and he turned it down to become his own ruler. Its plain as day in the Scripture's. Then God marked him. He could not change from that point on.
As for Eve's transgression Adam who was a "Son of God" took her sins on himself. He was not deceived – He like Jesus loved his bride and took her sin upon himself. That is why Paul said Eve was in the transgression. Adam was a "Son of God". And he knew God's will. Adam and Eve are with Christ now. But Cain is not and never will be. He took the "Mark of the Beast" There are really only 2 seeds period. The unbeliever and religious make -believer are really just one. They going to the same place. John said in his epistles their were many anti-christ in his day. What about our day.
If you die a anti-christ you got the "Mark of the beast". Its to simple for people to understand. They think it is in the future somewhere.
God bless ya
And he will cause all both small and great to receive a mark on his hand, or forehead. Those who refuse to worship the beast and take the mark will be put to death.
The image of the beast is not yet in the Temple. Therefore, it is yet future.
Cain maybe forgiven of his murder. We do not know his heart only G-d does. Christ will have mercy on whom he shall have mercy.
Adam sinned too. Two wrongs do not make a right. Adam did know what he was doing though. Now, we suffer for turning our backs on G-d's laws. At least, Adam and Eve repented. Old Knob did not.
The Lord reached out Cain, giving him wise council.
God graciously reached out to acknowledge Cain's mental, physical and spiritual condition. God was offering a way back onto the paths of righteousness (Psalm 25:10).
The Lord said to Cain, "Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen? If you do well, will you not be accepted?And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is for you, but you must rule over it" (Genesis 4:6-7, ESV).
Cain rejected wise council.
Sin (demonic oppression) gained a stronghold, ruling over Cain – ultimately manifesting in murder.
God said – "if you do well – you will be accepted."
The murder could have been avoiled by repentance for the presenting issues:
Not being obedient (sin of rebellion) led to envy (sin), which manifested in anger (sin).
Cain was full of sin (condition) before the murder – yet God gave Cain wise council to redeem him from the hand of Satan.
Good lesson but overlooked in a rush to condemn Cain for his condition from birth.
We all have something (sin via DNA).
God is gracious, full of mercy (Jeremiah 9:23-24).
Our response to envy, anger and other sin (demonic oppression) that wants to rule over us is the issue and important lesson to comprehend and apply. It is playing out in NYC, Ferguson, and around the world.
God loved Cain and Able, Adam and Eve. But, Cain rejected God's wise council just like Dad. Sad.
Psalm 145
Yea DJ I agree with everything you said but this line.
You said – Good lesson but overlooked in a rush to condemn Cain for his condition from birth.
"my reply is below"
We seen the end of Cains chance to become a believer and walk in God's favor. It was not Gods fault it was Cain's who did not want to be a servant but a ruler in his life over other men. = Nico-laitans spirit was on him. And Christ said He hated that spirit. And as we see. He became that and built cities and civilizations that rebelled against God. And Governments were set up to rule over the people. How can anybody deny that fact.
Every person born has a chance for to know Gods will. But most will not chose it over their own will. Making them Anti – to the Will of God. And they will never have peace, or God's love. For Cain all that was left was nothing but war all the days of his life and then his seed is still here as we still see wars, and killing, and murders. Cain was the first Anti- to God. The Bible is full of why their are wars and hatred in the N.T epistles. Yes Eve sinned but Adam a "Son of God" covered her sins and we have to realize she came out of the ribs of Adam by the "spoken word of God" not through sex birth. And Adam became her headship. She's in heaven today. Eve submitted to her Husband = type of Christ and they both were forgiven. Now the sex birth can produce only 2 kinds of seed. Good or Bad. It can be traced in the Bible.
The last thing here – God gives grace to all men . But the majority will reject it. Just look at the hour we are in today. I can say as John said. there are many Anti-christ today. Most of the world is in anti-christ thinking.
I appreciate your post and Lord bless you on this Christ- mass day.
Tom could you please follow the points below.
Nimrod was a giant. Thus, he became a Post-Flood member of the offspring of the Nephilim. The offspring of the sons of god all rebelled. Yes Eve sinned but she was not of serpent genes.
Do you think Adam was a fallen angel (son of God) or do you think that Cain was a fallen angel or do you think he was a Giant. Where do you see the Nephilim fitting into this?
I cannot follow what point you are making you keep saying you agree with everyone but it doesn't seem as though you really do.
I can not write for Tom, but I do not believe Tom was writing Adam was a Nephilim, or an Angel.
Adam is the only human refereed to as a son of G-d other than the Angels until Christ came. I suspect Tom believes Adam was a fully created adult human when G-d breath into him the breath of life.
Leatherneck and dmcal52 and all.
Leatherneck said:
And he will cause "ALL" both small and great "TO RECEIVE A MARK" on his HAND, or FOREHEAD. Those who refuse to "WORSHIP THE BEAST" and take "THE MARK" will be PUT TO DEATH
Also you said:
The IMAGE of the BEAST is not yet IN THE TEMPLE . Therefore, it is yet FUTURE.
THE ALL- both small and great = Yes "all of the population from Adam's time to now." Have to respond to "Gods Calling and Covenants". You either "reject it" and die. – or receive it and have Eternal life.
THE MARK OF SATAN = Their are only 2 kingdoms both and only 2 marks you can receive – Satans "kingdom of the world" or "Gods Kingdom of Heaven". – they both in O.T and N.T
1. Satan's Kingdom worship their flesh and human spirit and soul desires. Completely carnal desires and then die having "loved this carnal world they lived in". They "love their world of sin" so much they will die for it. The soul that sinneth shall surely die. Eze, 18:4 That means your whole man. Your flesh and soul and spirit = the 2nd. death. Any who will not retain God in their thinking will be rejected by God. You can read their Character and attributes in 5 scriptures Rom. 1:28-32. They can not go to heaven.
They gave "their temple" over to worship "the god of this world". = They gave their Mind, body, and Soul to it. = all 3 courts of the Temple. Letting satan use their "Temple" for his own will. Their love is only for worldly lust of the "beastly appetites ". Carnality goes to the grave. Jesus came to Lift us out of that situation by His N.T message. "Satan lives in human temples."
The "Mark of the beast" is adding converts every day right now.
2. THE MARK OF GOD- Then theirs the "Mark of God"- Who's Temple we are. You need to read the following scriptures Col. 3:13-16 Gal. 5:22-25.
THE TEMPLE= Mark 14:58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is "made with hands", and within three days "I will build another" made "without hands". = This is pretty simple and self explanatory that the "New Temple" is the Bride. The Spiritual body of Believers in N.T. AS soon as Jesus rose from the dead that old temple way became obsolete. But He gave Israel another 40 years like in Moses day to let them get to the promise land of the N.T.. But over a million did not make it through and died in the temple mount with their great Sanhedrin . Thousands upon thousands did not make it . Their caucuses laying in the fields and rivers and everywhere. 70 AD was a massacre of the likes of Hitlers days.
They were still looking for their 'Messiah" and He had already come as a thief in the night. Same thng is this generation. The still think its all future.
1 Cor. 3: 16 ¶ Know ye not ""that ye are the temple of God"", and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1 Cor. 3:17 If "any man defile" the temple of God, him shall God destroy; ""for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are"".
1 Cor. 6:19 What? know ye not that "your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you", which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
The Holy Ghost comes with Believing until you receive it. Not just believing.
Eph. 2: 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an ""holy temple IN the Lord"": ((Same temple can be filled with satan as well))
22. In whom ""ye also are builded together for an "habitation of God" through the Spirit. ((Christ made your Temple the Holiest of Holies to live and dwell inside of you)). ""NOW not Future"". We are His Tabernacle.
Rev. 21:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle = habitation , and them that dwell in heaven.
The Above is the New Testament Temple. Not made by hands of men. Making are works meaningless if we do not possess the Holy of Holies. = Holy Spirit.
THE HAND= equals servitude to someone. The right hand of God is the "Power of God in your servitude to HIM". That makes it all happen. Obedience is better than sacrifice. What a man loves the most he will give all his servitude and power to attain it.
THE FOREHEAD=Just means your mind. Thinking. The "Mind of Christ" has to be a transformed in you as Paul says. Rom. 12: 1-2. Your mind and heart speaks volumes of your "human character or godly character". As I have already declared above. Satan can only "pervert" what God has given. If you chose to not retain God in your thinking. You will become a perverted soul and mind. Satan will take over your flesh man with the mind and heart. And you will be un-able to see the truth any longer. We have all been chosen. But that does not mean every person is going to be saved by Christ. If the prodigal son had not returned to the Father. He would have went right on into mind perversions and soul perversions till they took him over. But his name was on the Book before the foundation of the world. He was a son to begin with. Sons of God are the Chosen few of Matt. 13:10-11
Rom. 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be "ye transformed by the renewing of your mind", that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. The Mind is the top of the tree. That is where the best fruit are in a natural tree. Its time is complete then. We are in that hour of the Mind of God or the Mind of the Beast. Forehead
WORSHIP THE BEAST= You buy and sell out the Truth and the Holy Spirit for just fellowship. You will not give up your " OLD LIFE SOURCE" and would sell you soul to the devil for advantage. Esau sold his birth right for a morsel of meat or drink. Worshiping your beast is real easy and just do whatever you want to do and don't worry about it. And that's why it is such a great blessing to be chosen by Gods will. Worshiping the beast is worship of yourself. And things created by your own hands. And you give your life to that. You sell God out for a good position and money. For popularity, for to be popular etc etc. For perversion of all kinds. They love that more than Gods heaven life food.
PUT TO DEATH= The beastly kingdom will also want to put the "Children of God to death". Why? – cause their conversation and "Lifestyle of God's Holiness dwells in them" and condemns the worldly man for being lovers of the world. . And like Cain they cannot take it being condemned and convicted and are not worthy of being rulers. They want their own way. Even if it means war and men die. Look at the Nations- they have all had war. They cannot help themselves. Its a jealous spirit on them. Jealousies are crueler than the grave. Death is Final. It's over. You will never rise again. Your life was you judgment seat. God does not have to raise you up to tell you all you sins. He already knows them. He knows the hairs on your head. When you die you judgment will be clear. Its heaven or death.
THE IMAGE= Sinners hate the Image that Christians portray. And its all about their thinking and living in another dimension that sinners cannot understand. All believers have to cross that gulf into the other dimensions of our Heavenly Father. Its by the Holy spirit we are "taken up" into those dimensions. But the sinner is "taken up" in other dimensions by drugs, sex, power, hate, and perversions, and become beastly in Character. And that is their heaven on earth. But will not receive eternal life unless Gods reveals to them the Truth. Perversion's will create a hell to the unbeliever cause he is helplessly lost yet he LOVES TO manifest things that comforts his fleshly appetites for a season. So there are the two dimensions of Non-believer and the Real -believer. If the Holy Spirit or Word life has "never taken you up" into other dimensions. Their is a good chance you are just religious. Your "Image"= Character – is your "mark of the beast" or the "mark of the lamb" living in you. The Only thing you taking with you is your "Character". It stops at the grave or goes on into Eternity. You was a beast to begin with and would not repent at Gods Voice. God is a "Just God" always period.
FUTURE= God never taught us to live in the Future tense. We serve God in the Present Tense. A day at a time. Living in the Future is as bad as living in the past tense. I teach a "NOW message". Its been hard to get rid of all the traditions I had about the Bible. I thought as most of you do NOW. After the Resurrection Jesus revealed Himself to many for 40 days. Why? Because they were still perplexed about the PRESENT MESSAGE to preach and teach. We all have to walk the Emmaus Road till our eyes are opened to truth, and have to reject the fables and traditions of men. Only Christ the anointing can help us. But most seem to resist it in the beginning. Jesus taught them a History lesson till they seen the light and their eyes were opened. The Book Of Revelation has to be understood . Its a summary of all that Christ has done for the N.T church. All the players in the book Of Revelation. Are history. It is about 70 ad and the coming of God in Judgment in that day. It was the Romans battle of destroying the O.T and bring in the N.T. God uses enemies go get his purposes done.
BUT if you could just understand Book then Heb. 13:8 will open your eyes to this time as well. God is experienced in the ages gone by. And Never changes. Cause He is right every time.
Let us see if you too can find the mark of the beast on the forehead.
A chip in the forehead? What the..
And after all that you still haven't traced the Serpent seed back.
Steve said Tom please follow the points below.
Your post below. You said
Nimrod was a giant. Thus, he became a Post-Flood member of the offspring of the Nephilim. The offspring of the sons of god all rebelled. Yes Eve sinned but she was not of serpent genes.
answer about Cain
Remember Eve and Adam had to reap what they sowed. That is why Cain was born. It had to be that way cause it was the will of God. He knows the Beginning from the end. This was in the "plan of salvation" from the beginning. The darkness always makes the stars to shine.
Answer about Nimrod
I do not see no where that Nimrod was a giant. But he did become "Renown" . All I do know is that he married a very petty white women. They found coins with Nimord's picture on it. He was a Black man. And a great hunter. Till he finally hunted down men that did not pay his tax for guarding their little communities from the wild beast of that day. Their is no doubt this man was of the serpent seed. In the New testament this would be a Nico-latian – conquer of the laity – common people – Nimrod like Cain was a very intellectual man and could build great building's and civilization as Nimrod learned.
Most of the believers in that day were plain and were farmers, sheep herders etc. etc. Living off the land.
Your Question
Do you think Adam was a fallen angel (son of God) or do you think that Cain was a fallen angel or do you think he was a Giant. Where do you see the Nephilim fitting into this?
Answer: I believe that Mankind all became fallen angels. But the difference is that Once a Son of God always a Son of God. Like I said Adam was not deceived – but Eve was. And Adam had the Revelation of the sacrifice of Blood that could redeem Him and Eve. It was the blood that had the life in it. We all live off of dead substance. Cain wanted something pretty and did not have a revelation what so ever. Abel believed what Adam taught him. And He gave a blood sacrifice. Adam knew the life gene was polluted by having Cain. When you eat of the "tree of carnal knowledge" this is what happens. But satan will be their and say "But thou shalt not surely die. Millions of Christians and most sinners still believe satans first sermon.
¶ And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
GENESIS 4:26- And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Amen thank you Lord.
I do believe that the seed of satan had to cross over on Noah's Ark by the flood cause their were still plenty of Giants in the land after that. Its plain to see in the OT. In Moses day they Israel was scared of the giants that were in the promise land. BUT they defeated them under Joshua.
One more thing. I do not believe that just a "Spirit alone"can impregnate a woman with seed to have a baby. You can masturbate with a spirit but not have a baby with just a spirit. Many think that satan's spirit manifested into flesh and bone. Which is an out right lie. That would make satan a equal to God himself. God is the only Creator – satan can only pervert what God has created. Satan can pervert someone and turn them into a fallen creation of sin. But only God is the Creator alone. N.T said do not be carried away with old wise fables etc.
Hope this has helped you some Bro. Steve
Dj.- Steve – dmcal52- and all others –
A Rebuttal of the Mark of the beast.
The Mark of the beast is proved by scripture
2 Peter 1:20, "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation"
Revelation is defined as "to reveal, a disclosure," it does not mean to hide. Yet, that is what most people believe about the book of Revelation…that its meaning is hidden, and that we must resort to "private interpretation." However, the 'meaning' of the book of Revelation is interpreted and revealed by scripture itself.
Remember, the prophesies in this book were written to those living in the first century (Revelation 1:1,4,11). How could God bless his people all this time for keeping these prophesies if they did not understand them (Revelation 1:3; 22:7,9)? The fact is, they did understand them. These prophesies are not left to private interpretation, but the meaning is revealed to everyone, even those who were alive in the first century (Revelation 22:10).
2 Corinthians 4:3, "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:"
What is a Mark?
A Mark (seal, sign, token, frontlet) is placed upon the forehead or hands, either as a sign of a curse or as a sign of redemption.
· Genesis 4:15: God places a mark on the covenant breaking Cain, so nobody would kill him.
· Exodus 28:36-38: Priests of God wore a gold plate upon their forehead, symbolizing the redeemed man.
· Exodus 13:9,16, Deuteronomy 6:6,8; 11:18: A mark upon the forehead and hand was a symbol of total obedience to God's Law.
· Solomon 8:6: A seal upon the heart and arm is symbolic of a love for someone.
· Isaiah 49:16: God has graven His people on the palms of His hands as a sign that he would not forget them.
· Ezekiel 9:4: A mark upon the forehead was indicative of their allegiance to the Lord in the midst of abomination.
· Revelation 13:16-17: The Beast places a mark on the hand or forehead of his followers also. This mark is his name (which represents ones character).
· Revelation 14:9-11; 16:2; 19:20: Those who receive the mark of the Beast (worship something other than God) will be tormented. Which means…
· Revelation 9:4: Those who do not have the seal of God in their forehead will be tormented. The Beast's mark is contrasted to God's mark!
· Revelation 20:4: Those who do not receive the Beasts' mark will be the keepers of God's commandments and have the testimony of Jesus.
· Revelation 15:2: To keep the Word of God is to overcome and be victorious over the mark, or name, or character, of the Beast.
· Revelation 3:12: The name of God will be written upon those who overcome.
· Revelation 7:3; 14:1; 22:4: Where will the name of God be written? It will be sealed in their foreheads!
· Revelation 19:13: What exactly is the name of God that'll be written in their foreheads? It is The Word Of God! (See also John 1:1,14). In other words, Scripture, God's Word, will be in their hearts, minds, and souls!
A Name represents ones Character
Biblically, a name represents one's character. This is why God changed the name of his servants (Genesis 17:5,15; 32:28; 35:10, 2 Samuel 12:25, Acts 13:9), and told parents what to name their unborn child (Genesis 16:11; 17:19, 1 Chronicles 22:9, Isaiah 7:14, Hosea 1:4,6,9, Matthew 1:21,24, Luke 1:13,31), and why men have chosen one name over another for their child (Judges 6:32, Genesis 35:18, Luke 1:59-60), and why name's of cities have been changed (Genesis 28:19): to reflect their character!
God wants to seal his name, his character, his Law in us (Isaiah 8:16). God's character is God's Law, and is described in the Word of God. God's Law will be written in our hearts and minds (foreheads), Hebrews 10:16, Ezekiel 11:19; 36:26.
The Beast is Man's Government
The Beast wants to put his character in us as well. The Mark of The Beast, like all scripture, is given so that we may understand God and how to serve Him better. The Mark of The Beast teaches us that the Lord demands uncompromising obedience and unswerving dedication. The Beast represents the archetype of the tyrannical state, which is opposed to God's Word and God's Law.
In scripture, the Beast is defined as kings (Daniel 7:17, Revelation 17:10-12), and man-made kingdoms (Daniel 7:18,23, Revelation 16:10) that have power to make war and kill (Revelation 11:7; 17:14). The Beast is the government, with rulers and armies, that are against God and his servants (Revelation 19:19). Jesus said, "He that is not with me is against me" (Matthew 12:30, Luke 11:23). So rulers that enforce laws contrary to God's Law, are the Beast.
Followers of the Beast receive his mark of ownership; submission to ungodly, anti-Christian law. The mark in Revelation is not to be taken literally. It's an allusion to the Old Testament symbol of man's total obedience to God, and stands as a warning that a society's God (whether the true God or the state) demands complete commitment in all areas of life. Christians cannot compromise (2 Cor.6:14-18). The state is not absolute, it's under authority of Christ (Psalm 2, Matthew 28:18); it's an instrument of God (Romans 13:1-7). It has no license to do whatever it likes. It's ordained purpose is for a rod of correction; to speak the Word of God, to punish evil,
Tom said
I believe that Mankind all became fallen angels….. Adam knew the life gene was polluted by having Cain.
Thankyou for the clarification Tom. So Cain, Abel and Seth were all polluted and all of us a a consequence?
Tom said
"The mark in Revelation is not to be taken literally."
Well it must be pretty literal as yo can't trade without it.
"The Beast is Man's Government"
Yes it will become an instrument of the Beast and the Government's army. Global Marshall Law . The army pentacle.
dmcal52 .
Chips exist therefore the mark of the Beast is a chip.??
You may be right but I don't see it myself.
Steve -I'm praying that you and others will read this message with the Holy Spirit in your mind to understand . I wrote it with the Holy Spirit moving through me.
The whole human race was in the fall. As I have said. Because of sin. = unbelief – and it was the 1st. Adam just one man that loved his bride and went into sin for her and caused the whole fall of mankind. BUT then the 2nd. man Adam =One man called Jesus Christ brought us up out of the fall. Bought us back out of the pawn shop that Adam and Eve put us in. That is your "translation" back into the Heavenly Kingdom of God. = Garden
It is sooo simple to understand. You either got the "Char–acter of God" or you got the "Character of the world" living in you. These preaches and so called intellectual ingenious people got it so messed up it's pitiful. They are scared to death of the Chips, tatto's, or some kind of device etc. etc. and miss it all together. Yet in reality all we have to have is the "Holy Spirit" Controlling you and living in you. Then you not going to be lost. You are not going to except the "Mark of the Beast" either. Gods Son's are protected and not even death can separate us from the Lord. Most all are believing myth's and fables of men that do not possess the Holy Spirit if they teach you otherwise. Everybody in American is waiting on a device or a chip. That will make them a anti-christ. They have heard that for so long – How can a Device of any kind deceive you Brother when you got GOD LIVING IN YOUR SOUL – The world in American has fallen for this false doctrine. Listen up -When they made American's have to get a S.S # – do you realize even then the Christian's were already brainwashed and would not get one saying it was the "Mark of the Beast" – If we do not know we are secure in Christ by the "Sealing of the Holy Spirit" till the day of our redemption Eph. 4:30 then maybe we all need to check our faith out again. Do you know you possess the Holy Spirit which is GODs = Spirit living in you. You are secure.
The Disciples were so secure along with thousands and thousands of follower's of Jesus. Was they looking for a chip that was planted in them somewhere. No the Romans looked at their "Character" and knew they were followers of Christ.
We have made the Gospel so complex. That it actually takes your thoughts away from the truth. Just like living in the Future you had better know TODAY what you got living in you. Our time is always. Along with having the Holy Spirit you also get the Lord's Inheritance with it. HELLO out their. When we gonna get it. The Majority says in the Future. I say and Apostle Paul and the N.T say's we got it all right NOW. Its by faith. Revelations was fulfilled in the Disciples time. Jesus thought it good to get John to write it down for "future ages". For us to learn from. HELLO anybody home. We going through the same thing now they went through 2,000 years ago. So we learn from that who are enemies are in THIS DAY. Yet they had the "Mark of the Beast" in that day. It was Roman and Israel the false church that came to "one mind" to kill the true believers. Its the same today. Have you watched the news of the " risen Caesar Roman Pope and Islam and the Christians of this time "uniting all over the world" even in America. This will come out bad for the real Christians I guarantee you. We already have Kings and Rulers all over the world that persecute Christians. They have killed over 300,000 already in this world in the last few years. Mostly in the middle east. BUT do you hear anything about that" of course not. Did they go in a rapture without death. NO. But we just don't get it do we. How many went into a rapture in Disciples days without death. NONE
– The Nations are the Beast and religions of Anti-christ that do not want Christians in their country. WHY – Cause the nations are all ruled by satans seed mostly Nico-latians. They love having power over the people and they lie and cheat and steal- sounds like satan don't it. And get by with it. They hate Jesus cause Jesus is the truth period. And people that have truth cannot be deceived.
Knowing the TRUTH and being FILLED with the SPIRIT won't keep you from dying or put you in a rapture without tasting of death.. But it will keep you from going to hell cause you already have Eternal life in You Now. Wake up and shake yourself off and know that you are filled with God's Spirit. God's promise is that once we are the Seed of God and we accepted our "ELECTION" through Christ. HE guarantee's you that HE will never take away your ELECTION. = Cause you are the real SEED and you will never DIE but once – but the sinner will have to die twice. But if you not a Christian and Have NOT the Holy Spirit Character= Then you have the Mark of beast. Your "ELECTION" will be destroyed and you gone forever and perish. Its that simple but its not taught much in America. Now taking he Mark of the Beast will not happen until "you decide" you not going to worship or follow or retain Christ teachings in your life. I pray we all will accept the Love of Jesus and know your are secure in Christ. . Only the Lord know's when a man crosses the line into the Mark of satan. But your "image" or exact copy" and servitude. Tells us of your Character in whom you chose to serve. Not some device stuck in your arm or hand or forehead.
"That anitchrist will make his covenant in the middle of the seven and then 3 1/2 years later he will set up that abomination. This will cause the desolation of Jerusalem where they will flee out into the desert where God will have a place prepared for them, which is where they will stay until the Lord returns 3 1/2 years."
Daniel 12:11
"From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days"
Is the covenant not made at the start of the seven and the abomination set up in the middle of the seven?
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Literalism vs. Spiritualism – Part 1
Which passages of Scripture like Obama said should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is okay and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the the faith.
That is, the Bible actually does not say that slavery is OK – neither does it say that a child should be stoned if he strays from the faith. But due to the dire lack of Biblical literacy in Western society too few people would even recognize this.
Can we take the Bible's message "literally"? After all, if we do, we all stand condemned because it literally tells us that despite everything being originally created "good" and "very good", mankind rejected God's best and exchanged it for Satan's grand lies: You can make your own rules and be your own god – that is: (( you can invent and maintain your own religion!)) Ever since that original lie was swallowed there has been something not quite right about this world.
And if a person was to look close enough at Jesus of Nazareth in the pages of the Bible they would marvel at how different He is and was to Israel's religion and wonder how any person could be so good and righteous with a ministry that was infallible proof of HIS authority. Yet Israel would put him to death because of his oddness. For the church then they said HE spoke in "false heresy. And they just could not get the Spiritual revelation. They proved themselves by themselves as the Bible says. By eating from the "tree of knowledge". They just could not see the Mysteries of Jesus Christ was hidden and completely foreign to them. And most ALL of their great leaders of the Sanhedrin were deceived. "" So think about that for awhile"".
We Americans today are just as Israel was in Jesus Day. I never heard of that before. Its go to be wrong. It don't line up with Dr. so and so etc. etc.
It is then perhaps incomprehensible to post-moderns how the Jesus of the Bible could be called "good" if He was intolerant – which He clearly was, since He did not tolerate hypocrisy, injustice, or sin. Similarly, post-moderns find the Jesus of the Bible abhorrent because He judged others and even condemned some. In fact, He made the audacious claim that He would ultimately judge the whole world!
St.John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Col. 16-17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
A. These dietary restrictions served a symbolic purpose for a time. But that time ended when God did away with the Old Covenant and established the New Covenant- The Old Covenant was abolished Paul said.
B. But still today Many thousands of Christians still believe this passage has to be literally interpreted in the N.T.
Actually, the only time symbolism and literalism clash is when disagreements on specific passages occur, such as in the Bible.
A proponent of literalist can say Jesus was really the "Son of God" while a symbolists might say everyone is the "son of God" as we are his children. Which is correct? Well, it's up to you to decide. It has to be a "Spiritual Revelation" to really know what it means. The Holy Ghost is your guide.
The Holy Spirit is your Guide to Truth – Part 2
John 16:13 Howbeit when HE, the ""Spirit of truth"", is come, HE (the Spirit) will ""guide you into all truth"": for HE shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things "to come".
A. Jesus message was for "His generation" as well as ours today. We all but forget that Jesus Message was foremost for "His Little Flock" to "come out of her my people" and be not partakers of her sins.Rev. 18:4 = of unbelief cause they did not possess what they confessed in Jesus day. Jesus revelation was by the "Spirit of God" was the greatest and was for all the generations to come. His Message was Spiritual all the way" It Fulfilled all Prophesy of Himself. And of Israel. And it seemed so "contrary to all the doctrines" of the O.T Church age of that day". Same today.
B. It was the end of the "era" and the O.T became obsolete." Cannot we see the "spiritual affect" of today is the same. It's just like in Jesus Day. The trained Pharisee's and the others were so carnal minded with their laws. It was the "Leaders of the Sanhedrin" that were the great, intellectual scholar's that missed him by their literal understanding, and it went right on down to the common people that way. Paul was a member of the Sanhedrin and one of them. But Jesus had him on the Book of Life with the chosen of the "little flock" that would believe his "Revelation". And It took him 12 to 15 years to understand the Message of the "Revelation" of Jesus Christ. He did not learn it from man's intellectual conception of truth. But by the Holy Spirit. Paul said he had to unlearn himself from all mens doctrines to get the real "Revelation by the Spirit" to understand the Mysteries of God and the Lamb.
John 15:24-26 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. ((Israel as a whole hated Jesus revelation by the spirit as well)). It was so contrary to their myths of literalism. = Law's
25. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, ""They hated me without a cause.""
26. But when the ""Comforter is come"", whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the ""Spirit of truth,"" which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: ((It takes the Spirit to know the Truth)) So wait upon your ministry till you get the truth validated by the Spirit of Christ.
Matt.5:3 Blessed are the "poor in spirit": for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Not poor in intellectual wisdom). You can be a genius but not many will come into the Kingdom of God according to Paul. God has to "reveal" truth to you by the Spirit that is in the scripture you study. The poor are the ones that yearn for truth, and are lowly in Spirit, and they thirst for true meaning of the Word of truth.
John 7:15-18 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, ((having never learned?))
16. Jesus answered them, and said, (My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.)
A. Like Paul – intellectual concepts do not move me and Is dung to me. It's means nothing without Spiritual meaning by Revelation of the Spirit not flesh. Gods Word is Spiritual. A man without the Spirit will never understand the mysteries of God. Its been proven over and over again. They Just cant get it. They become bound by their "own doctrines of devils" which bring the "Spirit of error". The Spirit of God is the only remedy for release from a carnal mind. That just will not except anything contrary to the multitudes that think just like them. Israel could never discern their own Prophet's and Jesus said the killed them all. They might not kill you today. But they will sure cut your head off spiritually. By thinking you are a crazy man. They thought Jesus was a MAD man. He was sooo different in Doctrine than they.
Here is an example that I go way out of the ball park on to just try and tap into you mind what literalism really is.
Jh. 6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
a. Is God a actual loaf of Bread. It ridiculous to think that. amen – Jesus disciples actually at one time thought that they had to eat Jesus body and drink his blood. And the 70 would not walk with Him anymore over that.
JOHN 6:34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
JOHN 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
a. So the literalist has to believe he will never hunger and never thirst.
17. If "any man will do his will", (he shall know of the doctrine,) whether it be of God,——- or of man
Jh. 7: 24 Judge not ""according to the appearance"", but judge righteous judgment. ((Many things in scripture are not what it seems or portrays)).
It takes a patient man to listen to God's Holy Trumpet.
Is the trumpet a literal trumpet. I could go on and on- But this is enough.
Babylon just means "confusion and perplexity." The whole world today is in Confusion. If we cannot see this then we need a Holy Ghost revival in our Spiritual eyes and mind.
Babylon defined – 897 Babulon {bab-oo-lone'} of Hebrew origin [894];
AV — Babylon
1) Babylon meaning "confusion". Also called Babel,
1101 » to mix, mingle, confuse, confound- to mingle, confuse, and last but not least it means "" to fade away" The world today is dissolving as we read this post.
What was the Tower of Babel. It was going to be the world center for Nimrod. And all races. Meaning a "One world takeover. That is why "God came down" and confused them. Yes "God came down" but how many saw him in that day. Good question.
One of the words in that text means pulpit and or gateway. If we cannot see the Perplexity = Jesus told us of. Then we are as bad as Israel itself before it was completely destroyed by the Roman Empire. 70 A.D.
Perplexity means the Nations of this world in Jesus days and our Days had no answer's for their problems. But they would not seek God to get any either.
dmcal52 . Is the City on seven hills a city in Turkey. Just something I read.
dmcal – Brother you are so far out into left field you might never get up to hit the ball. Its impossible to read all the scriptures literally and get the symbolic meanings right. Most all of Israel could not do it and you cannot do it either. If literalism could not understand Jesus and His ministry then. What about now.
Jesus took 40 days after His ascension to prove Himself as ascended. And had come back to them with revelation of the truth . He actually had to show Himself to most of His little flock of 120. And a few others. He eat with his disciples after He rose, He came into their room and showed Thomas he really rose from the dead. He went to the harlot woman first to show back His love for her. For Jesus Knew that she probably loved Him more than all the others. She was at the Tomb first. Then their is the Emmaus Road. Jesus taught those two. From Moses up to that Present time. = they got a history lesson from the risen Lord. Must have been a long sermon. But they knew he was Christ and had risen when he had broken the Bread to them. Now stop right their for a minute. He first gave them the "Spiritual Bread from Heaven" – then he gave them the "literal bread" from the earth. So that tells us plainly its by "revelation" of the Holy Ghost. Faith is a Revealing to our soul and mind.
NOW all the above proves that the disciples only knew him (("Literally while He was alive". HELLO< HELLO ))- The disciples were even arguing who was going to be the greatest among all of them. Sounds pretty carnal and Jesus was going to the Cross in a few days or so. They really did not understand it at all.
But after the 40 days of Spiritual enlightenment by Jesus Christ. Then they went to upper room 10 days later at PENTECOST. They finally were filled all the way up with the Mighty Power of the Holy Ghost and understood the Message they had to preach and teach.
Jesus had to do these things just right. In order to not cause attention to His little flock. So they would not get wiped out by the Roman Beast as well. After Pentecost all those in the upper room along with the 11 Disciples were not afraid anymore and became bold and they said let us "continue in the word." The Holy Spirit was now in them and they had power even over death. And were not afraid. And most important they were preaching the Revelation of Christ had rose again . With Power and the Word to back it up.
The last time I heard you David- you believed in the "One God", and you said as I remember that you had received the "Holy Ghost". And was really ecstatic over it. Tell me do you still believe their is only "ONE GOD" and are you still full of the "Holy Spirit". Have you let the "Holy Spirit guide you" to all truth. Or have you let satan came back and take away your revelation of then. That is exactly what happens to most people. They get cleaned up. But have no Holy ghost in them. And the result is they will receive 7 more evil spirits than before. Making that man even more a two fold child fit for hell. I'm not saying this is you. I hope it is not you.
I think you are right Tom. Everyone else is deluded and has fallen for the spirit of the haughty except you.
Well thank you Steve I hope you mean that. God bless – tom
Marianne – "Sons of God" all have Celestial and Terrestrial bodies while living in this world. When we rise. The Celestial is our New Body for Eternity because "flesh and blood body is earthy" . The Flesh and blood body ain't going no where but back to dust. You will have no retrains then because you have shed the flesh man off for good. Jesus said I and the Father are one – Jesus also said " I came from God and I go back to God =Spirit. After you go back to God you are limitless in what you can do. Your New Celestial body is without the fallen flesh and blood system that come from the Earthly Son of God Adam who feel.
We will be as God is. Because we where always a part of Him before the Creation of the World you was in God. We can come to earth in a Body and eat just like Jesus did. Or we do not have to eat. Its a Supernatural Body. Equal with God.
The Celestial man was your real body to begin with. We were all Spirit beings with God before our beginning then took on a flesh body. Making us experiencing the same thing that the man Jesus Christ did yet He did it without sinning in the body.
Jesus Christ had to die in the flesh. To experience all of what mankind had to experience. Death of the flesh is the last enemy we will conquer. Remember this important note here. A fallen sinful flesh body – will always have to go back to dust.
Now behold a Mystery is opened below.
Yet what happened in the case of Jesus being God and Flesh both. Why did not they find the body of Jesus. This is a mystery to most all people. And still is. ""Jesus never sinned ever in HIS flesh body so therefore it could rise with Him. He came ""right out of heaven"" by the Spoken Word of God. And right into a incubator called Mary the virgin. So that is why they could not find the body of Jesus Christ and never will. As He chose to show his hands and feet to Thomas and sit and eat fish with His disciples . He also revealed himself to many believers in that day. But the worldly was not privy to that.
Please get this: – The New Creation of the Born again man or woman. Was through the "Spoken word of God" and sex desire had nothing to do with the Heavenly Word of God. Your New Creation man is a "Word Man". The word is what created you as well. The good news is that the "Heavenly Word of God" came right to us yet while we were sinners. This is why our old sinful body will decay and go back to dust. Yet the fall does not effect our Celestial man either. We have been "translated" into the Heavenlies while here on earth by our "Spoken Word Birth" before the foundation of the world was laid. That is the real Rapture of the Bride. The Spoken Word revived us and lifted us up into a Brand New Creation. We do not even live in Time – for we have Eternity "Now" living in us as Celestial beings. Eternity has no time. Rev. 10:6 – That is your translation and rapture, and quickening, and en morphing, transformation, and all of it is in the New Birth. I feel real sorry for the "left behind bunch" that will still be waiting on Jesus to come in the clouds. God has never ever come like man thinks. He comes as a "thief in the night". Was Abraham waiting to see The Son of God =Jesus the Prince of Salem- to come to him personally and have supper with him. Abraham called Him Lord. What a blessing to behold.
Well if you understand that then surely you understand what Revelation is talking about? The end of the material world.
Yea Steve that is part of it. I'm writing on it now and I'm on page 11. But got company. Talk at you tomorrow Lord willing.
PS – No I'm not sending you 11 pages. I started today about 1:00 pm. and just now quit typing – I put alot of time and pages in some of these post. They are like books and then I try and wittle it down. But its hard to do. Im thinking about making this project into a little book and pass it around my town at different churchs I know. Wrote a couple few in my day believe me.
Try to include the phrase
"Those written in the Book of Life who were slain when the world was created" means men who are indigenous to Earth.
The awakening is coming soon, fulfilling Scripture (Matthew 25:1-10).
Pastor Mike (IHOP) got something right as you'll read below. However, this nation is under judgement (Rev. 18).
Click to access 20141231_What_the_Lord_Is_Saying_about_the_Crisis_in_Our_Nation_Joel%202_Onething_2014.pdf
The Blood Moons (Passover/Tabernacles 2014/2015) and sackcloth sun (March 20, 2015 – first day of Spring) are the signs before The Day of the Lord.
Everyone will know soon.
Psalm 20
illuminati will cut off the food supply, they will create great famine .population control. heard some prophecy regrading to china, china might fight against anti-christ until the final moment ( euphrates river dry up , a major end time sign ) china might have their own money system(not nwo system) , food supply… in the end time.
any thought ?
He breaks the peace, allowing the world to advance upon Israel (Jerusalem is the key).
illuminati will cut off the food supply, they will create great famine .population control. heard some prophecy regrading to china, china might fight against anti-christ until the final moment ( euphrates river dry up , a major end time sign ) china might have their own money system(not nwo system) , food supply… in the end time.
any thought ?
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You must be referencing Daniel 11:37 ~
"He shall regard neither the god of his fathers [Islam] nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all."
The AC's lack of desiring women seems to be a man who is homosexual.
Should he marry – then his partner would be a man or a man (Michael) who appears as a woman (Michelle).
Happy New Year!
Rev. 12:11
I think the Hebrew text here is in the plural….ie "Gods of his Fathers, and not God of his Fathers!…makes a big difference!
Though our focus is on our Lord and Savior, here, and maybe saying this is a bit selfish – but, before we all depart this plane / planet, it would be really cool if all of us, Marianne, Dru, Steve, Tom, James, Susan, Dmcal, John, I know I am missing a lot of names here, . . . . but I would love to sit down at a table with all of you, regardless of our differences and samenesses, and share some bread and wine with all of you.
Here's to 2015 and all the adventures God has waiting for us all.