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As a beginning climber, the last thing you want to spend your time worrying about is your shoes, or the poor feet you've crammed into them on somebody's bad advice. That's why we've taken the time to write this article. Not only does it give beginners a plethora of excellent climbing shoe options, but it answers some very important questions that you may have about climbing shoes. From sizing, materials, price considerations, and transitioning into more advanced models, our buying advice and comparison table cover everything you need to know to get shoes on your feet and get you on the wall. If you're ready to take the next step, check out our article on the best overall climbing shoes on the market.
Best Overall Beginner Climbing Shoe
1. Butora Endeavor ($100)
Upper: Leather/synthetic
Closure: Velcro
Ability level: Beginner to intermediate
What we like: A great price for a well-designed and well-built shoe.
What we don't: Moderate downturn means this shoe won't excel on vertical or overhanging terrain.
Butora entered the climbing shoe world only a few years ago, but the company already is well-known for their innovative designs and premium builds. The Endeavor is Butora's top entry-level model, and with noticeable attention to detail, a high level of comfort, and a relatively low price tag, it has secured its place as our favorite beginner model. Further, it's made on a slightly downturned last, meaning the shoe is a bit more performance-oriented than others on the list, which is a good thing if you plan on progressing in your climbing.
If you have a hard time finding shoes that fit, the Endeavor is a versatile option. Both the men's and women's versions come in two widths, and the Velcro straps have multiple adjustment points to snug up to a variety of foot sizes with precision, even as the shoe stretches. And the Endeavor is comfortable to boot—the inner layer of the tongue is made of memory foam to take pressure off the straps, while the top layer's open-cell foam allows breathability. These kicks also sport a 100-percent organic hemp liner to minimize odor. It seems Butora has thought of just about everything.
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A Close Second
2. Scarpa Origin ($95)
Upper: Leather
Closure: Velcro
Ability level: Beginner to intermediate
What we like: Extremely comfortable and well-thought-out design.
What we don't: Neutral last might hold back more intermediate climbers.
Scarpa's legendary designer Heinz Mariacher, the brains behind uber-high-performing shoes like the Drago, doesn't stop at elite. In an effort to encourage more and more folks to start climbing, Mariacher set out to design the perfect beginner shoe. Enter the Scarpa Origin. Its superior comfort is immediately noticeable, and the padded tongue gives the shoe a pillow-like feel. And while the last is flat, the sole is stiff enough to provide decent support.
The Origin is essentially Scarpa's answer to the Evolv Defy below, one of the world's best-selling beginner climbing shoes. But the Origin is better-designed and made with higher-quality materials, all for just $6 more. And based on its comfort and quality build (including a 2020 update that improves fit in the midfoot and heel) beginners might be taking the Origin along as they improve. It's great for high-mileage or multi-pitch days (the generous 5-millimeter outsole helps), although not necessarily on highly technical terrain.
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Best Beginner Shoe for Outdoor Climbing
3. La Sportiva Mythos ($145)
Upper: Leather
Closure: Lace
Ability level: Beginner to intermediate
What we like: Durable and incredibly well-made.
What we don't: Pricey; not good for steep bouldering or face climbing.
It shouldn't come as a surprise that the La Sportiva Mythos makes an appearance near the top of this list. Many beginner-oriented climbing shoes are very apparently built with novices in mind, and all too often this means reduced craftsmanship and lower-quality materials to increase the bottom line. The Mythos, however, prioritizes quality. At the time of its release, it was a top shoe for trad climbers, and since then, it has become a dependable shoe for those new to the outdoors.
The Mythos' success as a beginner shoe stems from its versatility on different kinds of terrain. As a climbing novice, you likely don't know yet whether you prefer cracks or face, boulders or roped climbing, the gym or real rock. Getting an all-rounder like the Mythos is the best way to hedge your bets and be covered in most scenarios. Whereas many beginner shoes are made with the gym in mind, the Mythos is built to withstand the rigors of outdoor climbing: even after shoving it relentlessly into cracks, the stitching stays strong and the leather remains superbly comfortable and durable. And good news for the eco-minded consumer: La Sportiva also makes the Mythos Eco, an alternative constructed with 95-percent recycled materials.
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Best Beginner Shoe for Gym Climbing
4. La Sportiva Oxygym ($99)
Upper: Synthetic
Closure: Velcro
Ability level: Beginner
What we like: Washable, breathable, durable, and comfortable: a total gym workhorse.
What we don't: Not a high-performance shoe.
The La Sportiva Oxygym doesn't shy away from the fact that it's a gym climbing shoe—in fact, it's right in the name. And if there's one thing we know about synthetic shoes and the climbing gym, it's that they can get stinky fast. Whereas other shoes might require fancy deodorizing sprays, the Oxygym is 100-percent-washable, so you can throw it in the machine and have a good-as-new shoe once it dries. Tack on the 5-millimeter FriXion RS (read: durable) sole and an extremely roomy build, and the Oxygym is an all-around workhorse for climbers starting out indoors.
Like the Tarantulace below (which shares a similar high-volume build and durable sole), the Oxygym is decidedly not a high-performance shoe. If you think you might catch on quickly and climb the grades (literally), we'd recommend a sleeker shoe with stickier rubber, such as the Endeavor or Origin above. But for climbers in need of a shoe they can put on and keep on throughout a session at the gym, the Oxygym is both comfortable and breathable. At $99, it's a bit steeper than some other options here, but we think it's worth the investment for those looking for a functional daily driver for the gym.
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Best of the Rest
5. Evolv Defy ($89)
Upper: Synthetic
Closure: Velcro
Ability level: Beginner
What we like: A durable, time-tested classic.
What we don't: Nothing about this shoe really stands out.
Evolv is the embodiment of "slow and steady wins the race:" while they don't often knock it out of the park, they do quietly and consistently churn out good shoes. If you're looking for contenders at reasonable prices (compared to top models from La Sportiva, Scarpa, and Five Ten), Evolv's shoes might be the answer. And the Defy is no exception.
The Defy (and the women's Elektra) is Evolv's all-time best-selling shoe, and you certainly won't be the only climber in the gym sporting it. These kicks are comfortable straight out of the box thanks to their flat profile and no-stretch synthetic upper. But don't let their lack of aggressive downturn fool you: they are also very soft and highly flexible, excelling even on steep terrain. However, that means the Defy might require a bit more foot strength than stiffer shoes or those with a built-in arch.
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6. Scarpa Vapor V ($175)
Upper: Leather
Closure: Velcro
Ability level: Beginner to advanced
What we like: A comfortable beginner shoe that fares well on technical terrain.
What we don't: Expensive for a beginner shoe.
For quick learners, good athletes, and those who plan on taking rock climbing seriously, buying an intermediate-level shoe right off the bat isn't necessarily a bad idea. The Scarpa Vapor V fits the bill: it is highly versatile, excelling both as a beginner shoe and on steeper, more technical terrain.
The Vapor's stretchy, soft-sueded upper and mesh-gusseted tongue add exceptional comfort, and also make it perfect for wider feet. But don't be fooled by its cushy feel: the Vapor V is designed as a performance shoe for almost every style of climbing. Usually you want a thicker, flat-lasted shoe to edge and smear well, and a thinner, downturned shoe to climb on overhung terrain. Without geeking out too hard on "bi-tension randing," let's just say that Scarpa has designed a shoe to do both, and we think they nailed it. But with a hefty price tag and more focus on performance than most beginners need, the Vapor V might be too much shoe for some.
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7. Black Diamond Momentum ($95)
Upper: Synthetic
Closure: Velcro
Ability level: Beginner
What we like: Knit upper offers great breathability.
What we don't: The closure is poorly designed, resulting in pressure points on the top of the foot.
Black Diamond has been a leader and innovator in climbing gear for decades, but more recently made its debut into the world of climbing shoes. The Momentum is a flat, entry-level model similar to the Scarpa Origin and Evolv Defy above, but with a few important differences that make it a laudable choice for the gym. Most notably, the stretchy knit upper breathes well in sweaty indoor environments, and Neo Fuse rubber is a durable choice for high-volume gym climbing. And BD added a vegan Momentum to their lineup, so now there's something for everyone.
Unfortunately, the design of the Velcro closure on the Momentum is substandard. We dealt with bunched-up fabric and pesky pressure points when we were anything less than meticulous in tightening up the shoe (BD has a lace-up alternative that might be a better option). Further, the flat last may hold you back from progressing like you might in a slightly downturned shoe like the Endeavor. Overall, we expect Black Diamond to be working out some of the kinks in their shoe lineup throughout the next few years, but the Momentum is a solid first iteration of a gym-climbing workhorse... Read in-depth review
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8. Evolv Addict ($99)
Upper: Leather
Closure: Elastic
Ability level: Beginner to advanced
What we like: An incredible all-around climbing slipper.
What we don't: Stretches a lot; some complain of a hot spot in the heel.
And now for something a little different: a slipper. Rather than a more common Velcro or lace closure, slippers use slits of elastic near the ankle to fit snugly against the foot. They are exceptionally comfortable, quick to get on and off, and will progressively conform to your foot to eventually fit like a glove. The Addict is one of our favorite slippers for beginners—it's a flat-lasted, reasonably priced leather shoe that offers reliable performance for both indoor and outdoor climbing.
No laces or Velcro straps means the Addict fits without impediment into cracks of all sizes, while the flexible sole and leather upper make it a fantastic slab climber, as well. Meanwhile, the shoe firmly distributes all your power over its entire perimeter, promoting stability on edges. While it's not the best at anything, it's pretty good at everything. But keep in mind that not everyone is a fan of slippered climbing shoes—they don't offer as much of a customizable fit as Velcro or lace closures. That said, for unparalleled comfort and convenience, look no further... Read in-depth review
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9. Scarpa Helix ($99)
Upper: Leather
Closure: Lace
Ability level: Beginner to intermediate
What we like: Good performance shoe to help push into harder grades.
What we don't: A bit more specialized than other entry-level shoes.
You can't argue with Italian craftsmanship, and Scarpa shoes are almost always outstanding across the board. That said, their beginner trad shoe—the Helix—is a bit more specialized than others on this list, and is truly for climbers with some experience. The good news is that many beginners progress quickly, and if you're one of them, this shoe is a first-rate choice.
The Helix has been in Scarpa's lineup for years, and it's easy to see why. It perfectly blends comfort and performance for moderate-to-long alpine and trad routes (Scarpa even boasts that the Helix is a secret weapon for guides, and we believe them). The comfortable leather upper and padded tongue support all-day use, while the slightly asymmetrical fit and XS Edge rubber ensure you'll be able to stick the tricky crux of the route. In fact, these shoes could go head-to-head with the Mythos in almost every category—but we do think La Sportiva's beginner trad shoe offers a more customizable fit for a variety of foot sizes.
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10. La Sportiva Tarantulace ($85)
Upper: Leather
Closure: Lace (Velcro: La Sportiva Tarantula)
Ability level: Beginner
What we like: Comfort-oriented and durable.
What we don't: FriXion rubber makes these shoes less grippy than other beginner models.
The Tarantulace is one of La Sportiva's top shoes for beginners, and built to appeal to the enormous demographic of climbers who prefer comfort over performance (which isn't just beginners, by the way). The result: a shoe that feels good on your foot, is durable, and doesn't require a ton of technical savvy. For those who love climbing around 5.9 or V2 or easier, the Tarantulace is an excellent choice, and it doesn't hurt that it's one of the most affordable climbing shoes on the market at $80.
Build-wise, the Tarantulace is closer to an approach shoe than most others on this list. The 5-millimeter sole is among the thickest on the market, and features La Sportiva's proprietary FriXion RS rubber, which is built more for durability than grip. Meanwhile, the fit of the shoe is flat, wide, and rounded—resulting in a toe that is much more symmetrical than most climbing shoes (again, more like an approach shoe). As a beginner, it's really important to be honest with yourself about your abilities and desires as a climber. If you're looking for a comfortable shoe that you can take up moderate multi-pitch routes or wear for hours in the gym, the Tarantulace is an excellent option. But if you're looking to push the grade and break into harder climbs, look elsewhere.
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11. Scarpa Force V ($139)
Upper: Leather
Closure: Velcro
Ability level: Beginner to advanced
What we like: High-quality construction; good all-rounder.
What we don't: Jack of all trades, but master of none.
Initially designed as an entry-level sport climbing and bouldering shoe, Scarpa's Force V quickly was adopted by experienced trad climbers as a comfortable option for long days on the wall (in fact, we wore the shoe on a 3,000-foot 5.11+ climb in the Bugaboos and loved it). A beginner shoe that expert climbers love makes the Force V a great option for talented newcomers or those looking to progress quickly. It edges decently, crack climbs well, smears comfortably, and can be worn all day (even with socks).
Considering the relatively steep price tag, the Force V isn't our first choice for true beginner climbers—consider it one of the most premium entry-level models on our list. But for those looking for a high-quality shoe to grow into, it certainly warrants a close look. Further, this shoe is a great choice for climbers transitioning from the gym to outside: with a slight downturn and asymmetrical shape, you get comfort without feeling like you're wearing a basic beginner model (certainly a step up from options like the Tarantulace or Origin).
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12. La Sportiva Finale ($109)
Upper: Leather/synthetic
Closure: Lace
Ability level: Beginner
What we like: P3 technology will help this shoe keep its downturn.
What we don't: Dye stains sweaty feet.
The Finale is an entry-level climbing shoe with some features that will help you start to get a feel for what a more high-performance shoe might be like. Like La Sportiva's top models, this shoe sports Vibram's stiff XS Edge rubber, a tensioned heel rand, and the company's proprietary P3 system that holds the downturn of the shoe over time. However, being unlined for out-of-the-box comfort and sporting a durable 5mm sole, it's not lost on us that this shoe is tailored toward new climbers.
The Finale is stiffer and a bit more downturned than a shoe like the Tarantulace or a slipper like the Evolv Addict. A stiff shoe like this is ideal for all-day comfort on outdoor rock, and will edge better than many other entry-level models. The thick 5mm sole, however, does give it a clunky feel (and a high amount of durability). Made with unlined leather, these shoes are known to stretch a half to a full size, and the dye can wear through and stain sweaty feet. But for Sportiva fans whose abilities have progressed beyond the Tarantulace, the Finale is a worthy option.
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13. Mad Rock Drifter ($75)
Upper: Leather
Closure: Velcro
Ability level: Beginner
What we like: The cheapest of the cheap.
What we don't: The cheapest of the cheap.
Two things stand out about the Drifter: it costs less than any other shoe on this list, and Mad Rock claims it has climbed V15. Only one of those things should have any relevance to you.
The Drifter is an inexpensive and no-nonsense shoe, plain and simple. Ignore the jargon about midsoles, rands, and asymmetry here—if you're looking for an inexpensive shoe to take out for your first times on the wall, it's a fine choice. In the end, you're not going to climb V15 in the Drifter. And if you do decide that climbing is the sport for you, you'll probably upgrade to a nicer, more performance-oriented shoe. If not, you're only out $75 instead of the $80+ that all the other shoes on this list go for.
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14. Five Ten Rogue VCS ($100)
Upper: Leather
Closure: Velcro
Ability level: Beginner
What we like: Stealth rubber offers the grip of a high-performance shoe.
What we don't: Expensive for an entry-level model.
Remember the Tarantulace (#10 on the list)? The Rogue is like Five Ten's version of that: it's not made for pushing through overhangs, sending projects, or techy footwork. It's made to introduce beginners to the sport—with enough comfort and durability to help you learn the fundamentals.
There are a few reasons the Rogue didn't land higher on our list. First, $100 is relatively affordable for a climbing shoe, but the Tarantulace and other competing options are cheaper. Second, although Five Ten made the Rogue for gym climbers transitioning to the outdoors, it just isn't burly enough for real rock. Last, despite the Stealth C4 rubber, which provides the same amount of stickiness as Five Ten's most advanced models, it's not as versatile as an all-rounder like the La Sportiva Mythos. However, if you're planning to use the Rogue primarily indoors and don't mind the price tag, feel free to ignore our quibbles.
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15. La Sportiva Katana Lace ($195)
Upper: Leather
Closure: Lace
Ability level: Intermediate to expert
What we like: Comfortable and high-performing; extremely versatile.
What we don't: Expensive, even for an expert-level shoe.
Ah, the Katana Lace—there's no model that comes closer to a one-shoe quiver for technical face ascents, crack climbing, or multi-pitch routes. This shoe has been with us for years now, from our first 5.11 sport lead, to long alpine rock routes, 5.12 finger cracks, and days and days of guiding in between. Not to mention, the Katana is comfortable—like, wildly comfortable—without sacrificing anything in the way of performance.
On any other list, we'd be crazy to put the Katana so far down. But with a price tag nearing $200, we'd also be crazy to recommend it as a top shoe for beginners. We couldn't help but include it, though. With a moderate downturn, sticky sole, powerful edge, and comfort that will transition to hard climbing better than any other model, the Katana is one of our favorite shoes ever made. If you're in it for the long haul, this is a faithful companion to take with you on your climbing journey.
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Beginner Climbing Shoe Comparison Table
|Ability Level
|Butora Endeavor
|Neo Fuse
|Beginner to intermediate
|Scarpa Origin
|Beginner to intermediate
|La Sportiva Mythos
|Vibram XS Edge
|Beginner to intermediate
|La Sportiva Oxygym
|FriXion RS
|Evolv Defy
|Trax SAS
|Scarpa Vapor V
|Vibram XS Edge
|Beginner to advanced
|Black Diamond Momentum
|Neo Fuse
|Evolv Addict
|Trax SAS
|Beginner to advanced
|Scarpa Helix
|Vibram XS Edge
|Beginner to intermediate
|La Sportiva Tarantulace
|FriXion RS
|Scarpa Force V
|Vibram XS Edge
|Beginner to advanced
|La Sportiva Finale
|Vibram XS Edge
|Mad Rock Drifter
|Science Friction
|Five Ten Rogue VCS
|Stealth C4
|La Sportiva Katana Lace
|Vibram XS Edge
|Intermediate to expert
Beginner Climbing Shoe Buying Advice
- What to Look for in a Beginner Shoe
- Uppers: Leather vs. Synthetic
- Closures: Lace, Velcro, and Elastic
- Soft vs. Stiff
- Rubber
- Sizing: Comfort vs. Performance
- Men's and Women's Versions
- Indoor vs. Outdoor Climbing
- Why Beginners Should Spend Less
- Transitioning to a More Advanced Shoe
What to Look for in a Beginner Shoe
Beginner climbing shoes are easily discernible if you're staring at a wall of all your options. To start, they're generally flat, while more advanced shoes have at least some downturn (think a curved banana shape). The toe tends to be almost rounded and only slightly asymmetrical (if at all), compared to the more pointed toe of an aggressive shoe. And finally, beginner shoes tend to be less flashy—they lack many of the bells and whistles found on higher-level models.
That said, a quality starter shoe should come with a few very important features—not all of which are visible upon first glance. First: a low price tag. As a beginner, you can easily spend more than $150 on a pair of climbing shoes, but you certainly don't need to (see "Why Beginners Should Spend Less" below). Second: a relatively durable sole. Some rubbers are softer (and thus grippier) than others, but beginner shoes are made with harder, stiffer blends to ensure they last while you're learning how to use your feet on the wall. And the most important feature, by far: comfort. Climbing is a tough sport with a steep learning curve, and it's a lot harder to stick with it if your feet are screaming every time you put on your shoes. Over time, you will adapt to the pain of tighter shoes, but we recommend starting with a pair that you can wear comfortably all day.
Uppers: Leather vs. Synthetic
It can be confusing to understand the often-subtle differences between materials in outdoor gear, but in this case, there's a golden rule: leather stretches; synthetic doesn't. While there are a couple of exceptions (leather is sometimes lined, which prevents it from stretching quite as much), this rule will hold true for almost all climbing shoes.
For beginners, both leather and synthetic can be good choices, but it's important to consider the implications. If you choose a leather shoe like the La Sportiva Mythos, expect it to stretch a whole size over time. That means you'll have to size it small from the get-go and face a potentially painful break-in period. If you go with a synthetic option like the Evolv Defy, expect the shoe to stay true to size. While this might sound (and feel) like a good thing at first, the initial benefits quickly wear off, while leather conforms to the shape of your foot to eventually provide superior comfort. If we were to make a recommendation, we'd tell you to stick it out and go with leather. It tends to be more durable and comfortable over time, both of which are important considerations for beginners.
Closures: Lace, Velcro, and Elastic
There are three main types of closure systems for climbing shoes: lace, Velcro, and elastic (slipper). Since there's no unanimously superior closure type for beginner shoes, we'll let you make the final decision. Below, we break down the pros and cons of each. And keep in mind than many of the shoes in this article are available in both lace-up and Velcro versions—if you like the sounds of a shoe but prefer a different closure system, you may be in luck.
Laces are helpful for novice climbers because you can tailor the comfort-to-performance ratio specifically to your level of climbing. In other words, you can adjust the tightness and fit of the shoe around your foot depending on how you want it to perform. At first, you'll probably find comfort more important, but over time, you'll likely care more about performance. Laces give you the versatility to tighten or loosen your shoes accordingly. That said, laces can quickly become a pain in the butt if you're putting on and taking off your shoes repeatedly, as is the norm in the gym or while bouldering. They can also break and be difficult to replace (one of the few problems with the La Sportiva Mythos). We recommend lace-up shoes if you're primarily crack climbing outside, but for everything else, beginners should stick with Velcro or elastic closures.
Velcro is incredibly practical—it's always easy on-and-off, which is paramount for gym climbing and bouldering, both outdoors and indoors. The downside? Velcro can be somewhat limiting in how well it fits—you can only tighten or loosen as much as the material allows. It also tends to fail over time, which is a major concern we have with a shoe like the La Sportiva Tarantula. And a quick note for the crack climbers out there: if you plan on spending a lot of time wedging your way up 'em, Velcro is not an optimal choice, as it can snag, undo mid-route, or cause painful pressure points. However, if you're primarily bouldering or gym climbing, we absolutely recommend a Velcro shoe.
Shoes with elastic closures—called slippers—may be the most comfortable shoes on the market, especially all-around models like the Evolv Addict. For easy on-and-off, a snug fit, and comfort in cracks, some prefer slippers above all else. However, the problem with elastic is that it can stretch so much over time that you need to get your shoes fairly tight from the onset. This results in a difficult (read: painful) acclimation period, during which other shoes might be more enticing. Not everyone loves slippers, but we think they provide unparalleled benefits for many types of climbers and styles of climbing. No pain, no gain, right?
Soft vs. Stiff
A simple way to categorize climbing shoes is by the stiffness of the midsole and sole. Climbers who gravitate toward steep boulder problems or gym climbing will likely prefer a soft shoe that allows them to flex their feet around holds. These shoes provide far greater sensitivity between rock and foot, but—as a result—your foot will have to work a lot harder than it would in a stiffer, more supportive shoe. Those who plan on climbing long routes outside will benefit from the edging, stability, and support of stiffer shoes. In general, unless you're just bouldering at the gym, we recommend that beginner climbers wear a shoe with a moderately stiff midsole to help support their foot muscles and ligaments as they build strength.
Rubber is one of the most important features of a climbing shoe. The more time you spend climbing, the more you'll geek out about it: the different styles, thicknesses, and perfect recipe for sending your project. But for now, we'll keep it simple and talk about two main features: grip and durability.
Your best bet as a beginner is to get the most bang for your buck, and in terms of rubber, this means a fatter sole. Anything 4 millimeters and up is a good start—anything thinner won't last nearly as long. But not all rubber is created equal—some blends prioritize grip, while others excel at durability. For example, Five Ten's Stealth C4 and Vibram's XS Edge are stickier than La Sportiva's FriXion RS or Mad Rock's Science Friction 3.0—but not as durable. For true beginners, the benefits of durability will outweigh the minor differences in stickiness. But as you progress, a sole lacking in grip will actually hold you back.
Sizing: Comfort vs. Performance
You may have been told by a friend, store clerk, or climbing gym employee that you need to buy shoes so tight they hurt your feet. We're here to tell you the opposite. Beginner climbers need tight shoes—just like any climber does—but comfortably tight shoes. The initial investment in climbing is so great, and the learning curve so steep, that the last thing you want is to loathe the idea of climbing simply because your feet are in constant pain. Besides, the terrain and holds you're climbing as a beginner simply don't warrant a high-performance shoe with an uber-tight fit. It's great to be able to stand on dime-sized edges, but most beginners aren't going to be doing that anyway.
There's another important lesson here: how you use your feet is more important than what you put on them. If your shoes are a little on the roomy side, it will only force you to improve your footwork. Over time, it's best practice to get used to overcoming obstacles by working on technique rather than buying different gear. In general, get the same size you would in street shoes, or a half size down. Major exceptions to this rule (like the Butora Endeavor) will typically state them explicitly. And as we mentioned above, leather will stretch more than synthetic, so size your leather shoes down a bit and expect to endure a few mildly uncomfortable break-in sessions.
Men's and Women's Versions
Without getting too political about gender differences, norms, expectations, roles, etc., let's make a few sweeping generalizations. To start, males tend to run heavier and have wider feet than females. Obviously there are exceptions to this rule, but this is what you can expect to see when you compare a men's climbing shoe with a women's climbing shoe. Women's shoes are narrower and softer, and men's wider and stiffer (to accommodate more weight).
As a novice climber, it's important to know that climbing is a gender-neutral sport and nobody cares what you have on your feet. Men wear women's shoes and vice versa—all the time. If you're picky about soft versus stiff, just pay close attention as you try shoes on, and try models in men's and women's to evaluate the differences in feel. As for sizing, most companies have a conversion chart to show how male and female sizes compare (like La Sportiva's here, for example).
Indoor vs. Outdoor Climbing
There are so many differences between indoor and outdoor climbing that you could write a book on them. But in the case of climbing shoes, there's not really a huge distinction. All of the shoes on this list can be worn both indoors and outdoors, although most are more inclined to one or the other. If you're sticking mostly to the gym, the comfort and price of your shoes matter far more than performance or durability. If you're spending your days outdoors, we'd definitely recommend going with a more performance-oriented shoe, and one that will resist abrasion on real rock. You might not think twice on a gym 5.7, but be spooked on an outdoor route of the same grade. Having a little more confidence in your footwear when there are real consequences (like a ground fall) is worth a lot.
Further, as a new climber, you'll probably encounter much steeper terrain in the gym than outside. Thus, if you're climbing mostly indoors, you may want a soft shoe that can heel-hook and toe-in well, like the Butora Endeavor or Evolv Defy. Meanwhile, when climbing outdoors as a beginner, you'll probably find yourself more often on slabs or vertical walls. A pair of good edging and smearing shoes, like the Scarpa Vapor V, would be a better choice there.
Why Beginners Should Spend Less
While not quite backcountry skiing, rock climbing isn't the cheapest outdoor sport, either. A harness will run you $50 at minimum, then add in a belay device and locking carabiner for another $30 and a gym membership for up to $100 per month. Factor in $20 for a chalk bag and $5 a month for chalk. Adds up quickly, doesn't it? If you get into outdoor climbing, you'll also need a rope, helmet, crash pad, quickdraws, and so on (you should be hearing the sound of a cash register right about now). As a beginner, it's all new, and it's all a hefty investment in something you know very little about.
All that said, why break the bank on a pair of shoes? More to the point, why spend extra for features you don't need? You're a beginner, so don't worry about a highly asymmetric toe, aggressive downturn, powerful slingshot rand, top-notch heel- and toe-hooking ability, or incredible edging precision. If you're like most beginners, you probably don't even know what half of those things mean, and you don't need to. Your only job as a new climber is to enjoy yourself and figure out if you really want to commit to the sport. So go ahead, buy cheap. Permission granted. And if you continue to enjoy climbing, you'll upgrade down the road.
Transitioning to a More Advanced Shoe
"Beginner" is a pretty broad and relative term. Some climbers are sending 5.12s and V6s after just a month of practice. They're still beginners—just innately talented ones. If you're one of those people, few of the shoes in this article are right for you, and you should instead consider one of our top rock climbing shoes. That said, we've included a couple models on this list—most notably the Scarpa Vapor V and La Sportiva Katana—as options that can transition with you into tougher grades. Generally speaking, they are more expensive, so only start out with these shoes if you're hell-bent on becoming proficient, learn quickly, or climbed out of your crib before you could walk.
If you're like the rest of us, you can expect it to take longer to break into harder grades. As you do, you'll start to feel like your shoes are limiting you. This is when you upgrade. But remember: don't buy new shoes because you think they will help you progress. Buy new shoes because you have already progressed and your old shoes are holding you back. If you use your shoes as a crutch, you'll tend to make excuses for what is really a lack of strength and technique. Conversely, if you develop the strength and technique first, and turn to new shoes second, you'll actually get the boost you're looking for because you'll already be adept at doing more advanced moves with less advanced shoes.
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Transition to Independence: YAI's Free Young Adult Program Teaches Life Skills While Building Confidence
Authors: Elizabeth Asen & Nicole Riccio
Pictured above: John H. and Alicia F.M. holding their Taste Buds "Taste the Rainbow" Certificates.
Cooking, planning, and meditating. These are the three pillars of YAI's Transition to Independence (TTI) program, a free group for young adults, ages 17-21, who are diagnosed with autism. The goal of the program is to learn new life skills through the combination of hands-on learning and group discussions in a low student-to-staff ratio. Since the program's inception three years ago, TTI participants have gained knowledge and confidence in kitchen skills, life skills, and emotional regulation. The program aims to enhance social-emotional well-being so that participants can live more independently as they enter adulthood.
In the Kitchen Skills group, students learn essential cooking techniques from a professional chef at Taste Buds Kitchen in Chelsea. Direct Support Professionals also work alongside the students to model skills and monitor kitchen safety. The Kitchen Skills course has the motto "Taste the Rainbow," in which participants are encouraged to try a variety of textures, tastes, and smells. Exposing the students to new foods allows them to take risks, step out of their comfort zones, and try something new. Enter Taste Buds Kitchen, and one may see the puzzled looks of skeptical students wondering how the combination of zucchini and chocolate could possibly be appetizing. Once the cookies cool, students hold their breath and take a bite. They smile with surprise. It turns out, you cannot taste the zucchini at all.
During class, participants make one sweet and one savory recipe, while learning how to safely use cooking utensils, such as knives, graters, and hand mixers. The group helps participants to feel confident in their ability to prepare meals for themselves. Staff encourage participants to socialize with their peers and to form new friendships while enjoying a delicious meal together.
Pictured above from left to right: Sean L., John H., Alicia F.M., and Dylan S. holding the zucchini chocolate chip cookies they baked in Kitchen Skills.
In TTI's Life Skills group, the participants hover around the table studying budgeting, time management, or disability rights. They discuss personal experiences which require judgement, decision-making, risk-taking, and problem-solving in instructor guided group discussion. Participants shape the curriculum of this course as the subjects are based upon the daily living skills they would like to learn more about. While collaborating with their peers, group members strengthen their communication and problem-solving skills, share their own personal challenges, and provide supportive feedback. For example, participants role-play social situations they may encounter and discuss how to appropriately respond. Ultimately, the group aims to go out into the community to apply these lessons in a real-life setting, such as visiting a gym to discuss physical fitness and gym etiquette or planning a trip to the park to participate in a community event.
If you enter the Yoga Mindfulness class, you'll see a row of yoga mats and students mastering tree pose or quietly meditating. Participants engage in calming physical and mental activities that promote movement, relaxation, and socialization. After yoga, students learn about mindfulness. Practicing mindfulness is an approach to stress reduction that helps group members understand the connection between their bodies and minds. Weekly topics include cultivating happiness, loving-kindness, stress reduction techniques, and establishing a positive self-image. The group discussions allow participants to discuss aspects of their lives that may cause stress and how they can use mindfulness to manage their emotions effectively. Group members frequently share their concerns about going to college and wanting to live independently. They receive support from the facilitators and their peers on how to use mindfulness to manage the stress that comes with having more responsibilities.
Many TTI participants attend two or even all three of the groups. In attending more than one group, students interact with their peers on a consistent basis and establish friendships that transcend the classroom. TTI enhances the lives of the people with autism by teaching them skills and empowering them to become more self-sufficient as they enter and prepare for adulthood.
Transition to Independence's spring sessions begin February 26 and run through the end of June. The groups are open to young adults, ages 17-21, who are diagnosed with autism. Participants must meet NYC Department of Health and Mental Hygiene program requirements. If you are interested in learning more about the YAI Transition to Independence program, please contact the LINK department at 212.273.6182 and visit our website at www.yai.org/services/transition-independence

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The Effect of Rock Properties on Fracture Conductivity in the Eagle Ford
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Unconventional reservoirs have become increasingly possible and economical due to the advances of hydraulic fracturing, a stimulation technique that creates highly conductive fractures that serve as pathways for hydrocarbons from the reservoir to the wellbore. This technique's success is determined by the rock's capability to fracture and the ability to sustain fracture conductivity. Several parameters, including formation properties, proppant type, and proppant concentration, affect the efficiency of fracture conductivity and should be taken into account for an optimal treatment. The purpose of this study was to investigate the relationship between unpropped and propped fracture conductivity and the rock properties of outcrop samples from each of the facies of the Eagle Ford formation. Multiple samples were collected from each zone and mechanical properties were tested in both the z-direction and x-direction of the bedding planes. Compressive triaxial tests were performed on core samples of the outcrops in order to determine the elastic rock properties of Young's Modulus and Poisson's Ratio. Additionally, Brinell hardness tests were completed to determine the resistance of plastic deformation of the outcrop samples. Lastly, mineral composition was obtained by X-Ray Diffraction analysis. The results of this study were compared to fracture conductivity data performed on the Eagle Ford formation. Within facies B1, the oil producing zone, the effect of anisotropy was present and revealed that the parallel (x-direction) samples had higher conductivity and higher Young's Modulus than samples perpendicular (z-direction) to the bedding planes. Throughout all the facies, unpropped conductivity was predominantly influenced by the surface roughness. The propped fractures are more affected by proppant characteristics for fracture conductivity. At monolayer proppant concentration, proppant embedment is the main cause of conductivity loss due to permanent deformation. Fracture conductivity is influenced by several rock mechanical properties. Slower decline rates for propped conductivity were associated with higher surface roughness. Furthermore, the proppant pack characteristics dominate over the rock's mechanical properties when multilayer proppant concentration is applied.
Knorr, Ashley Faye (2016). The Effect of Rock Properties on Fracture Conductivity in the Eagle Ford. Master's thesis, Texas A & M University. Available electronically from http : / /hdl .handle .net /1969 .1 /157114.


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The Dress I could live in!
dress: ℅ Friday Faves | belt: PKC | flats: Nordstrom
Let me start by saying it takes a lot for me to wear something twice in a row and if someone told me to get dressed in less than 2 minutes I would grab this dress from Friday Favs Clothing without a doubt. It's become a staple piece in my closet and I am so comfortable in it that I really wouldn't mind wearing it to bed. I also love a dress with pockets, don't you? It's like it becomes of part of me when I have somewhere to put my hands and my phone. On another note Nicole and I have been some busy bee's lately getting lots of things in order. I'll be sharing more details soon enough but for the mean time I urge you gals to check out Friday Favs and if your looking for a dress that's budget friendly and something you can wear everyday you can seriously take my word for it. I'm in need of getting in every color now, yes I love it that much!
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I love this dress Steph! I can never find these in a store. Do they have other colors?
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Hi Amy ? thank you! Yes they also carry this dress in a grey color. Here's the direct link http://fridayfaves.net/collections/accessories/products/nicki-dress-gray
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HA NOI (VNS)— National Assembly Chairman Nguyen Sinh Hung yesterday attended a meeting where former senior Party and Government officials commented on amendments to the 1992 Constitution.
In the last three months, more than 30,000 such meetings took place, resulting in the submission of about 20 million comments on the draft constitution, Hung said.
"This shows that the people are the masters of important national issues," said Hung. "The people are free to express their points of view on the draft constitution in general or any particular articles or clauses. This is an important political and legal campaign to raise people's awareness of the National Constitution as well as their respect for the nation's highest legal document."
Hung hoped that the old veterans would offer valuable feedback on the amendments based on their experiences in the Party and Government.
During the meeting, the participants came up with many practical comments to help the constitutional compiling committee further perfect the constitution in order to turn Viet Nam into a socialist state ruled by law and a state of the people, by the people and for the people.
The same day, President Truong Tan Sang, head of the Central Steering Committee for Judicial Reform, chaired the committee's 10th session in Ha Noi. The committee discussed the results of polls on the draft amendments to the Constitution. — VNS


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Turbo's message to the world today: "I HATE you!"
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So what if you want to move beyond the usual wedding guest attire? When it comes to what to wear to a wedding, jumpsuits, especially from Diane von Furstenberg, are having a major moment. But if you want to avoid the washroom drama, you know what we mean, separates from Lela Rose and Carolina Herrera can still pull-off that dreamy, elegant vibe.
Importantly, however, guests should always consider the location of the wedding, for your own comfort and for the bride and groom's sake. What you might choose to wear for an outdoor garden wedding will look and feel very different to what they would wear for the champagne reception at a five-star London hotel.


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The 2018 World Cup is nearly upon us. We. Can't. Wait. But before that kicks off, there's the Premier League to deal with first… and after that, we need to talk about the Russian World Cup stadium that looks a lot like a South African one.
The stadium in Mordovia looks quite a lot to the one in Soweto. The stadiums have similar mosaic-like cladding around the exterior. Its one of nine stadiums purpose-built for the jamboree set to kick off in June.
While the South African architects have reportedly said they're not fussed and Russian architects say that it's just a coincidence, South Africans aren't impressed.
As with most things we're not impressed with, South Africans took to Twitter to share their thoughts.
The Mordovia Arena in 🇷🇺
Looks familiar or is it just me seeing things pic.twitter.com/MWGNQqfzu7
— Ur_Cousin✌🔥 (@Madcool_U) May 4, 2018
#Russia stole our Stadium concept. Bletty Russian Copy Cats. I'm sure #Zuma sold the rights to #Putin and pocketed the cash. #WorldCup #Russia #FIFAWorldCup pic.twitter.com/H929EjqjRb
— Lwazisto (@Lwazistos) May 8, 2018
Russians say that their 2018 World Cup Stadium the Mordovia Arena's similarity to FNB Stadium is purely 'accidental coincidence' 🇷🇺🇿🇦 pic.twitter.com/5A9tPHZVaJ
— DiskiStyle (@DiskiStyle) May 8, 2018
The Mordovia Arena in 🇷🇺
Looks familiar or is it just me seeing things pic.twitter.com/MWGNQqfzu7
— Ur_Cousin✌🔥 (@Madcool_U) May 4, 2018
When they copy your homework but make smallanyana changes. Russia's new 2018 World Cup Mordovia Arena compared to South Africa's 2010 Soccer City Stadium in Johannesburg. 🙃🤔 pic.twitter.com/LAIKi27Ag0
— Ulrich Janse van Vuuren (@UlrichJvV) May 8, 2018
But one of Russians stadiums looking like FNB stadium is a complimentary to designers and architectures of ZA
— 🇿🇦 (@Imsollyntuli) May 9, 2018
The 44 000 seater stadium was finished in April – but when construction started on it, the FNB Stadium had long since been completed.
Somebody has already noted the copy-job in the stadium's Wikipedia entry. This is what the "design" subheading said at the time of writing – we're pretty sure the "copied from Soccer City" will be removed, but humour us:
In the bid to host 2018 World Cup submitted to FIFA, Saransk's new stadium was shown with a temporary design by German architect(copied from the Soccer City Stadium in South Africa, which hosted the opening and closing ceremonies of the 2010 FIFA Wolrd Cup) Tim Hupe.
For the final look of the stadium a local company "Saransk Grazhdan Proekt" was chosen. The simple bowl-shaped venue is to have acid orange seats and capacity for 44,442 people, but only in tournament mode. After the 2018 World Cup the upper stands are to be dismantled, decreasing capacity to 28,000. Between the stands left and the roof a promenade with retail and leisure spaces is to be created.
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Definitions for "CONCURRENT RESOLUTION"
Keywords: sentiment, legislature, senate, commendation, president
A resolution, designated as House Concurrent Resolution (H.Con.Res.) or Senate Concurrent Resolution (S.Con.Res.), often used to express the "sense of Congress" on various domestic or foreign policy issues. Concurrent resolutions do not require or are not intended for approval by the President and therefore do not have the force of law.
A resolution introduced in either the House of Senate and requiring the concurrence of both bodies. Adopted in each body my majority vote of all Members in office.
A type of legislative measure that requires passage by both chambers of the legislature and generally requires action by the governor. A concurrent resolution is used to convey the sentiment of the legislature and may offer a commendation, a memorial, a statement of congratulations, a welcome, or a request for action by another governmental entity. (Concurrent resolutions are also used for administrative matters that require the concurrence of both chambers such as providing for adjournment or a joint session. These types of concurrent resolutions do not require action by the governor.)


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In some kind of rambling commentary posted on CNN's CNNPolitics.com site Tuesday (8/19) CNN commentator Jack Cafferty gave his take on McCain's appearance at the Saddleback Forum last Saturday. Cafferty, I'd suspect disappointed in Barrack Obama's performance, seemed to want to take out some of his frustrations on John McCain, and in his typical Bush bashing fashion tried to make a few points of comparison. Perhaps he misunderstood, or perhaps it was just sour grapes, but it's obvious that he has some deep seeded need to try to tear down republicans, and took the opportunity to go after McCain.
That Jack holds a certain bias I doubt that he would even disagree. After all, his forte is to puff and blow and create and cause consternation among republicans in general, and the Bush Administration in specific. Though a good bit of what Jack Cafferty has to say should most of the time be taken with a grain of salt, here I thought appropriate that just in case he might need the obvious pointed out to him, I'd take his commentary and see if I could maybe shine a little light on things for him. What follows is his commentary, with some response from me in bold (if I may be so bold, lol):
It occurs to me that John McCain is as intellectually shallow as our current president. When asked what his Christian faith means to him, his answer was a one-liner. "It means I'm saved and forgiven." Great scholars have wrestled with the meaning of faith for centuries. McCain then retold a story we've all heard a hundred times about a guard in Vietnam drawing a cross in the sand. Jack, that's what Christianity IS. It's John 3:16. I'm shocked that you don't realize that Jack. Just because you've heard his "cross in the sand" story a hundred times doesn't make it any less valid, for its part of his walk in faith. Great scholars HAVE wrestled with the meaning of Christianity for centuries, and do you know the answers that they have come up with? That it means "I'm saved and forgiven."
Asked about his greatest moral failure, he cited his first marriage, which ended in divorce. While saying it was his greatest moral failing, he offered nothing in the way of explanation. Why not? Perhaps because he wasn't asked that question, even though the answer is self evident to most anyone. That statement alone shows the depth of his morals. Not that he cheated, or lied, or anything else, it's that he failed his vows. Seriously, you don't understand that?
Throughout the evening, McCain chose to recite portions of his stump speech as answers to the questions he was being asked. Why? He has lived 71 years. Surely he has some thoughts on what it all means that go beyond canned answers culled from the same speech he delivers every day. Jack, his answers are his answers, yesterday, today, tomorrow, the next day. Is he supposed to make up new stuff or change something each and every time? Was this the format to expound at length on things? No. Methinks some of you in the media have come to expect something 'new' each time a candidate opens their mouth. Maybe that comes from many of them changing their positions with the wind. And when you make a living on "soundbites" I can see your problem, but like you said, he's been around a while. I'd imagine he's figured a lot of things out by now. He does seem open to change, however, when the new comes along, but then again y'all seem to find fault in that too.
He was asked "if evil exists." His response was to repeat for the umpteenth time that Osama bin Laden is a bad man and he will pursue him to "the gates of hell." That was it…. Well, then let me clarify it for you since you didn't understand. YES, he believes evil exists, and he believe Osama bin Laden is a personification of evil and worthy of fighting. He needed say no more.
One after another, McCain's answers were shallow, simplistic, and trite. He showed the same intellectual curiosity that George Bush has — virtually none. I myself am curious about your intellectual curiosity and capacity Jack. You call George Bush simplistic, but fail to understand what he has truly done for not only America, but the world. Your views (and other) seem to want to make some extremely complicated things simple, and some simple things complicated. You have little understanding of the threats we faced (STILL face) and want to measure intent and consequences with some tangible thing, which here is impossible. Most of it is in the realm of what could be or might have been.
You misunderstand (or mischaracterize) the intent of administration actions meant to keep us safe and secure in our homes. You play games with words with intent to scare people into thinking that Bush is doing something to them, instead of for them. Where is this "litany" of broken laws and promises, and cloaked secrecy and how does it affect Joe Average? Isn't there STILL a check and balance called the Supreme Court to hold all that in balance? I don't see where they've been any blank check for this administration. How do we, as American's, suffer? Any more than we already suffered in line at the MVB? And where is our international reputation in shambles? Seems to me France, Germany, Italy, and others have elected PRO-American leader for a change, so just where is our reputation worse that it has always been. Venezuela? Iran? Cuba?
Americans want straight answers Jack, not opinions mired in myths and theories. No double speak and political correct gibberish. Say what you will, but John McCain is a straight talker. Americans, we like that. That all seems to have gone over your head Jack. Maybe it's you who is the shallow one.
Where are John McCain's writings exploring the vexing moral issues of our time? Where are his position papers setting forth his careful consideration of foreign policy, the welfare state, education, America's moral responsibility in the world, etc., etc., etc.? I would think in the Congressional Record. I'd believe there is more tangible proof of his beliefs and views there than in all Obama's writing put together. I believe his record is set in stone for all to see there.
John McCain graduated 894th in a class of 899 at the Naval Academy at Annapolis. His father and grandfather were four star admirals in the Navy. Some have suggested that might have played a role in McCain being admitted. His academic record was awful. And it shows over and over again whenever McCain is called upon to think on his feet. Now Jack, you can criticize members of our Service Academies if you want to, but in my opinion the one that is in last place is far superior than most of the rest of us. Somebody must be first, somebody must be last. How does that exclude John McCain from anything? Especially in light of his long time public service? Just his having been there, however, gives him far more qualification as Commander In Chief than Barack Obama will ever have. MOST people that get into our Service Academies get in via somebody. His father and grandfather being an admiral should count for something to you, too. It's telling that it doesn't. My IQ was measured at 142. My academic record in college? Awful.
He no longer allows reporters unfettered access to him aboard the "Straight Talk Express" for a reason. He simply makes too many mistakes. Unless he's reciting talking points or reading from notes or a TelePrompTer, John McCain is lost. He can drop bon mots at a bowling alley or diner — short glib responses that get a chuckle, but beyond that McCain gets in over his head very quickly. Jack, seriously, can you blame him? Every mistake is reported as some sign of senility, or lack of understanding or such. The Press seems to go to some length to report and expound on each. Obama's mistakes, which there seems to me to be more of and much bigger in nature, tend to be ignored, or explained away due to tiredness from campaigning or such. And that TelePrompTer comment, GET REAL! Obama is far more dependant on one than McCain. Please don't insult the American public with comments such as that. They're just…rude. As far as his answers at Saddleback, he was sharp as a tack.
I am sick and tired of the president of the United States embarrassing me…. Then you need to do some self evaluation there my friend. It far more YOU than HIM.
George Bush's record as a student, military man, businessman and leader of the free world is one of constant failure. And the part that troubles me most is he seems content with himself. A Yale Graduate with a Masters Degree from Harvard? I'd take being a failure like that as a student. He was selected as a "Bonesman" at Yale, and from what little I know of that they only select the "Cream of the Crop" and people expected to go places and do things in life. Apparently correct in that too, it would seem. As a military man he was allowed to train and fly Jet Fighters, and our military doesn't allow dummies to fly their aircraft, much less their Jet fighters, so that speaks well of Mr. Bush. And the fact that he flew MORE than the required hours in less time speaks well, too. Nothing much wrong with that record… unless you're trying to say that serving in the Air National Guard like thousands of others is somehow less than honorable. If that's the case there are a whole bunch of people out there that would like to explain otherwise to you. The National Guard was no "out" from having to go to Vietnam as many went, served, and died for their county there.
I, for the life of me, don't see the failure that you see Jack. That we sit here in America and haven't suffered another terrible terror attack speaks well for his leadership as President, for that has been his focus. You may quibble with his sending us into Iraq, but at the time the whole free world was good to go. Everybody had the same Intel as he. No, we didn't find the hoard of WMD's that we thought were there. Do you seriously think he'd sent us in knowing they weren't? I think he could have come up with a better excuse than one that he knew he couldn't prove in the end. But what we DID find in Iraq was the capability to still make those weapons. The Scientists, the labs, the command and control, AND all the necessary ingredients, all still available to him. Jack did you trust Saddam Hussein? Given his history and spoken desires, do you really believe he would have not provided one at first opportunity to do harm to us, Israel, or one of the moderate Arab nations he so despised? What would have happened Jack if he would have sent one against Israel and killed thousands? Perhaps World War 3? Perhaps a Nuclear retaliation from Israel, killing maybe millions? Again Jack, did you trust Saddam Hussein? George Bush did not. Perhaps saving countless lives.
I thank God that George Bush isn't some wishy washy person unable to stand by his beliefs and lacking in self assurance. Most call that self confidence a trait of leadership.
He will leave office with the country $10 trillion in debt, fighting two wars, our international reputation in shambles, our government cloaked in secrecy and suspicion that his entire presidency has been a litany of broken laws and promises, our citizens' faith in our own country ripped to shreds. Yet Bush goes bumbling along, grinning and spewing moronic one-liners, as though nobody understands what a colossal failure he has been. Yes the country is $10 trillion in debt. No dispute about that. Two wars, several hurricanes, floods, fires, and an out of control congress I guess you can easily ignore, but I can't. George Bush entered office with some big plans for using the surplus that Bill Clinton and a republican controlled congress left him. Plans for educating the disadvantaged so they could move up into the mainstream of life, fighting AIDS (which he pumped far more money into the fight than ever), fixing healthcare and Social Security. Sadly 9-11 came and plans changed. He didn't get the luxury of peace and prosperity that he thought he'd have. I'd bet'cha if he could he'd change it all back, but that isn't possible is it? Sadly, too, is the fact that faith in our country has been ripped to shreds by people like you Jack Cafferty, who make a living tearing things down instead of building them up. When did all this tearing down begin? Election time, 2003-04.
I fear to the depth of my being that John McCain is just like him. I'd think that would be unfounded. That the two of them have tussled quit often over policy should alleviate any of those fears. Jack, my fear is that Barack Obama is the complete opposite.


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A statement from Nancy Pelosi's office revealed Friday that the speaker of the House had planned to defy Trump's retaliatory efforts to cancel her trip abroad by flying commercially to Afghanistan. But now, according to that statement, Pelosi has canceled her second attempt at taking a congressional delegation to visit the troops and blames the Trump administration for leaking her travel plans.
"In the middle of the night, the State Department's Diplomatic Security Service provided an updated threat assessment detailing that the President announcing this sensitive travel had significantly increased the danger to the delegation and to the troops, security, and other officials supporting the trip," Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill said in a Friday statement. "This morning, we learned that the Administration had leaked the commercial travel plans as well. In light of the grave threats caused by the President's action, the delegation has decided to postpone the trip so as not to further endanger our troops and security personnel, or the other travelers on the flights."
Trump had canceled Pelosi's undisclosed plan to lead a congressional delegation on Thursday by revoking her access to the planned military transport. He promised to allow her to reschedule what he called a "seven-day excursion" and "public relations event" once the partial government shutdown ends. "Obviously, if you would like to make your journey by flying commercial," he added, "that would certainly be your prerogative."
The move was widely interpreted as retaliation for Pelosi's letter the previous day asking Trump to reschedule the Jan. 29 State of the Union address until after the shutdown ends, citing the number of security workers who would have to work the event without pay.
The purpose of Pelosi's planned trip, according to Hammill, was to "express appreciation and thanks to our men and women in uniform for their service and dedication, and to obtain critical national security and intelligence briefings from those on the front lines." While in Brussels for pilot rest, the congressional delegation was to meet with NATO commanders and allies "to affirm the United States' ironclad commitment to the NATO alliance."
In the statement Friday, Hammill said Pelosi's office had learned the Trump administration had leaked the congressional delegation's commercial travel plans. While no news outlets appeared to have reported on the plans before Pelosi's statement, Hammill told Slate that multiple sources from the administration were attempting to leak the news. A White House spokesperson responded to Pelosi's statement by pushing back on the claim: "The idea we would leak anything that would put the safety and security of any American at risk is an offensive flat out lie."
In a statement Friday, the acting director of the Office of Management and Budget announced a full ban on the use of government-owned or government-chartered aircraft during the shutdown for a congressional delegation without express permission from the White House chief of staff. Late on Thursday, the White House also canceled a scheduled trip led by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
Some critics pointed out that President Trump flew to Afghanistan during the shutdown and that Melania Trump still flew to Florida on a government jet Thursday for a weekend vacation, just hours after her husband postponed Pelosi's trip to visit U.S. troops in Afghanistan.


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I'm glad you've decided to go for grad school! It's rough though! What are you going to study? I'm jealous of your ability to just magically get offered jobs. It's all good to move away or want to move away from your family, but it's nice to be close by especially when something big like your sister getting pregnant happens. I can understand being a little begrudging though, but maybe it won't be such a bad thing.
You know I went from "I have to get away from my family because they drive me nuts and I can only be with them for 5 minutes max" to "I'm homesick and need to be closer." I used to only be 3-4 hours away from my mom and sister, and I kind of took it for granted. Now that I'm living by myself and all my family is at least 10 hours away, I really miss them. So now, once I finish my Masters I'm planning to move closer to home.
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by Pat Van Dyke Most everyone desires to make a positive difference in the community and in the lives of those that one touches, but it isn't always easy to know how to begin. Canyon Lake resident, Robert "Bob" Sasser found himself in this dilemma in 2005. He knew that the Lord had a special ministry in which he was to become involved, but Bob just didn't expect to be the founder and director of the ministry.
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VIDEO | New date set for recount for Commissioners elected to Big Cedar Lake PRD | Video courtesy Meghann Kennedy
Sept. 13, 2018 – Big Cedar Lake, WI – There's going to be a recount for commissioners to Big Cedar Lake PRD on Tuesday, Sept. 18.
We have received two petitions from the nominees at the election on August 29. One from Nicole Gonring and the other from Troy Zagel.
Board chairman Roger Walsh asked whether the petitions qualified for a recount under current state statues.
Wisconsin Election Commission said the state statue does not apply to the PRD.
Walsh then read a statement from the Elections Commission staff, which qualified it as an informal opinon and not an official opinion.
"Nothing in Wisconsin stats 901 requires the board to accept the petition and order a recount but also nothing would prohibit the board from accepting the petition and ordering a recound if they believe it's warranted," said Walsh.
After receiving the note the board commissioners decided to hold a meeting and determine whether to issue a recount. That meeting was held Monday, Sept. 10.
Walsh said he would entertain a motion to approve a recount from the 2018 annual meeting.
A board of canvassers would need to be appointed, according to Walsh, and "the results of the recount would be treated as the district's final and unappealable determination of the nominees receiving the greatest and second greatest number of votes in that election."
PRD commissioner Brian Krebs asked where the ballots were stored after the election.
Dan Carroll, Operations Manager/Chief of Patrol at Big Cedar Lake PRD said, "Those ballots have remained in my custody since that night and after the count was done they were all put in a bucket and after they were read I gave them to my officer and they've been sealed in a bag and locked in my evidence locker."
Side note: The last four minutes of BCL recount Part 1 were of nothing as the PRD commission waited the arrival of board member Chris
Passage of the measure was voting by a simple majority present. Walsh stepped aside from voting because he was one of the candidates on the ballot.
Candidate Troy Zagel, who finished fourth in the election attempted to talk to the PRD board after the meeting. "If you could just have a representative from each person who is being voted in, who is on the ballot, watch the count," he said. "This is all just a waste of everybody's time."
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Sept. 7, 2018 – Big Cedar Lake, WI – There's going to be a request for a recount during Monday's meeting of the Big Cedar Lake PRD.
Petitions from candidates Troy Zagel and Nicole Gonring have been filed. The pair lost in an election at the annual meeting on August 29.
Four candidates were vying for two seats on the Big Cedar Lake PRD.
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The terms of board members Roger Walsh and Jim McGath had expired. McGath chose not to run again.
Walsh was on the ballot with David Claussen, Nicole Gonring and Troy Zagel.
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Only five votes separated three candidates.
Dan Carroll, Operations Manager/Chief of Patrol at Big Cedar Lake PRD, said they counted the votes five times.
There were about 300 people who voted Wednesday night.
Gonring questioned if they counted five times, how come these were the final totals they settled on.
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