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We offer Spanish language courses, which help your Spanish communication skills. You can choose between the introductory-level Spanish Level 1 course and the intermediate Spanish Level 2 course, depending on your experience.
Admission requirements
There are no admission requirements for Spanish Level 1.
You must have completed Spanish Level 1 or have basic Spanish language skills to register for Spanish Level 2.
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We recommend the CELANG 210 - Spanish Level 1 course for beginner-level Spanish students or for those who plan to travel to Spanish speaking countries. You will learn:
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- Comprehension and speaking skills
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We recommend the CELANG 220 - Spanish Level 2 course for students with basic Spanish language skills who want to become more fluent. You will review Spanish Level 2 content and grammatical concepts, like verb tenses and conjugation. You will also learn how to:
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Banking Groups React to Sen. Dodd's Draft Regulatory Legislation With a Big 'No'
Not surprisingly, the nation's banking trade organizations came out in strong opposition to the draft legislation to overhaul financial regulation that was unveiled today. For the Independent Community Bankers Association, the main gripes center on the single regulator model and the proposed Consumer Financial Protection Agency (CFPA).
Although the ICBA says it supports "meaningful financial regulatory reform" and appreciates Sen. Chris Dodd's (D-CT) efforts, the group said in a statement:
"ICBA adamantly opposes a single federal banking regulator. The concept is a deeply flawed approach that would disadvantage our nation's more than 8,000 community banks, which have always put their customers and communities first, and would ultimately lead to less choice for consumers through a less diverse and robust banking system. Instead, we must recognize the diversity of our cultural heritage and financial system which is reflected in our current system of regulation. While our current system can be improved, it brings a unique balance and perspective through multiple agencies that reflects not only the rich and diverse fabric of our economy, but also the diversity in size and complexity of our financial institutions."
The release goes on to voice the group's dissatisfaction with the CFPA, saying that treating customers "fairly and honestly" has always been the way of community banks. The ICBA stated that examination and enforcement should remain under the auspices of the bank regulatory agencies so that community banks "are not unduly burdened for the sins of unregulated entities and out-of-control Wall Street firms."
In other words, community banks would prefer not to be lumped in with the big guys.
The American Bankers Association was also blunt in its criticism of the regulatory proposals. In a statement, ABA president & CEO Ed Yingling noted that although the ABA supports comprehensive reform, such as a systemic oversight council and regulating non-banks, "Sen. Dodd's discussion draft, however, would tear apart the existing regulatory structure only to create a new one that would produce conflicts among regulators, undermine the state-chartered banking system, and impose extensive new regulatory burdens on those banks that had nothing to do with creating the financial crisis. ABA supports comprehensive reform, but not this reform."
The release continues to say that the ABA opposes eliminating the thrift charter and the creation of a single prudential regulator, "which failed miserably in Great Britain and which would inevitably undermine the state-chartered banking system and be detrimental to community banks." It reiterated its opposition to the CFPA, as it would "put banks in the middle of conflicting regulations from two regulators with differing charges." Yingling also stated that the elimination of federal preemption would end up increasing the cost and lessen the availability of credit and other consumer financial products.

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Open to the public, this unique gallery features the works of 49 local artisans. The first floor gallery features diverse exhibits in a variety of media – paintings, stained glass, photography, sculpture, wood crafts – which change bi-monthly. The gift shop offers original paintings, photographs, one-of-a-kind jewelry items, scarves, cards and limited edition prints for purchase. The Carroll County Arts Center also offers classes, concerts, receptions where you can meet the artists and, special events.
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Did that post on social media backfire?
Or was it successful in distracting Singaporeans?
How many Singaporeans still remember the corruption at the town council?
How many Singaporeans still remember the military equipment that are still not returned to us?
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Campuses celebrate 18th International Week Northwest
EDMUNDSTON, New Brunswick — The 18th Northwest International Week, which runs until Feb. 8, officially launched on Monday, Feb. 4, in public areas of the University of Moncton, Edmundston Campus (UMCE) and Community College New Brunswick – Edmundston Campus.
The opening was attended by dignitaries in the colors of the flags of the 40 countries represented in the region, by student, students, college girls, college students and community members.
Practitioners and stakeholders who took the floor noted the importance of open and mix with others, in short, enrich each other in a context of diversity.
The two post-secondary institutions in Edmundston and the Northwest Newcomers Resource Center (CRNANO) combined with new efforts to provide the entire regional population a full agenda. There are almost 100 students, students, schoolgirls and full-time college students this year with the study permit to study in Canada, which is certainly a record attendance for the two institutions.
Here are the 40 country members of staff and students attending UMCE and CCNB – Edmundston campus and members of the community in northwestern New Brunswick: Algeria, Australia, Belgium, Benin, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Comoros, Ivory Coast, Spain, United States, France, Guinea, Haiti, Mauritius, Indonesia, Madagascar, Mali , Mexico, Morocco, Moldova, Niger, Philippines, Poland, Democratic Republic of Congo, Republic of Congo, China, Romania, Senegal, Syria, Chad, Togo, Tunisia and Ukraine.
The activities organized as part of International Week 2019.
Tuesday, February 5, 18: 30 pm, Arts Center of the Little Church "World Café – a welcoming community: the key to success."
Wednesday, February 6, 19 pm mutifonctionnelle room Édupôle (local PSL-105) "show with tales Wahmed Ben Younes."
Thursday, February 7, 18: 30 pm, Public Library Mgr WJ Conway: "Living Library".
Thursday, February 7th, 19 pm Regional Sports Pavilion: Sports Night "Move the colors of your country."
Thursday, February 7, 21: 30 pm, bar student FIRE "World Beer tasting".
Friday, February 8, 18: 30 pm, student center Édupôle "International Dinner". Note that the activity is presented sold out.
Friday, February 8, 22 pm, student center Édupôle "World Music Show with Afrikana Soul Sister."
All activities of the International Week are free (except international dinner) and open to the public. During the week, shows the storyteller Wahmed Ben Younes and African dance workshops and lively djembe Johanne Philippe and Michel Fortin will be offered in the Northwest schools.
The program of the Northwest International Week is made possible with the financial support of Canadian Heritage and population growth Division of the Department of Post Secondary Education, Training and Labor for New Brunswick.
For the program: http://www.umce.ca/communications/depliant_sem_inter_2019.pdf


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FLASH: French yellow vest protesters have clashed with riot police near the Arc de Triomphe on the 18th weekend running of demonstrations against President Emmanuel Macron.
Protesters threw smoke bombs and other objects at officers, and started pounding on the windows of a police van. Riot police then retreated, as did a water cannon, with protesters kicking the side of the large truck.
Protesters threw cobblestones at riot police through clouds of tear gas in front of Paris' Arc de Triumphed monument, which was ransacked at the peak of the protests in December.
Bonfires were started in nearby streets, with at least one car in flames.
Police also used water cannons and had arrested more than 30 protesters by late morning as tensions flared at the top of Paris' upmarket Champs Elysees avenue, where the windows of a high-end restaurant were smashed.
Police have announced over 100 arrests Saturday, as protesters try to breathe new life into their movement against President Macron, 41 anni, and his policies.
The yellow vest groups organized dozens of rallies and marches Saturday in the capital and around the country.
Interior Minister Christophe Castaner said thugs looking for trouble had infiltrated the demonstrations and gave the order to respond to "unacceptable attacks with the greatest firmness".
"Let there be no doubt: they are looking for violence and are there to sow chaos in Paris," Minister MiCastaner said in a Tweet.
Protesters promised to draw bigger numbers to mark the 4th month since the movement erupted in mid November, over since-scrapped fuel tax hikes and the high cost of living.
President Macron, former investment banker, had launched a series of national debates which are aimed at determining what polices people want the government to focus on.
Saturday's protests coincide with the end of the debates.
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Proposed changes to the tax structure may have negative implications on farmers.
Finance Minister, Bill Morneau, announced plans last Tuesday to stop higher income earners – such as doctors and lawyers, from "income sprinkling".
The federal government wants to target high- income Canadians who use their private corporations and family members to reduce taxes.
Accountant and partner of Muth & Co LLP, Steven Muth, says this change will effect more than just whom their targeting.
"Many agricultural producers have family working on the farm. That's the only way farming is sustainable, you have the family work, and for taxation purposes you pay them an income. If the CRA brings in these changes in a broad sense, and does not allow for rational thinking and feedback, it's just one more level of burden upon the average business owner."
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Organic Apple Crumble
One of my most vivid memories as a very small child around 2-3 yrs old is sitting in the kitchen of my grandparents farmhouse in Warrandyte eating my Nana's apple crumble.
Apple Crumble for me is the ultimate dessert, not because it is particularly complex or luxurious but because it's simple ingredients, aroma and texture evoke such wonderful memories.
I know most of you reading this will have a dish that has the same effect on you. These are the things in life we truly should cherish.
This is my Apple Crumble's story...
Mum in her 20's at Twickenham Farmhouse in Warrandyte
Just the drive to Warrandyte was an adventure for me, the hills, the winding roads, the bush, in the 70's as a little girl it was pure excitement. It was a Sunday family tradition that has instilled a deep love of Warrandyte in both myself and my older sister Melinda. For my mum however who had been travelling between Camberwell and Warrandyte most of her life it was a normal part of life and an easy drive for her from our modest home in Blackburn to the sprawling farm. During her childhood her mother and father had owned an electronics store in Burke Road Camberwell and they had a residence above the store.
Above: Popa and Nana (Archibald and Evelyn) and mums younger sister with Bessy the pony.
Above: Mum and her younger sister and father, Above right: The view from Twickenham, Warrandyte.
Their weekends were spent on the farm in a large but cosy Federation farm house set on 100 or so acres with steep paddocks leading all the way to the Yarra River. Sitting in the kitchen you had the perfect view of the orchard filled with apple trees.
The apple trees were bursting with more fruit than they knew what to do with and the fragrance of fresh apples hung in the air. The pony Bessy spent lazy days rolling around under the trees and munching on the fallen apples and pottering on the lawns around the kitchen. The kitchen was little more than a lean-to annex built on to the back of the house.
Outside the kitchen with Bessy on the lawns
Like many rather grand farmhouses of it's time the beautiful 'Twickenham's' Federation facade was at the opposite end facing the stunning views over Warrandyte and the Yarra and yet most of our time was spent in the back annex in the kitchen and talking to the pony.
Twickenham, Warrandyte 1964 (6 years before I was born)
Above: Twickenham driveway today, Above right: Twickenham in the 70's.
Etched into my memory is the sensation of sitting in kitchen smelling the aroma of Nana's Apple Crumble and anticipating the heavenly taste! It never disappointed. That memory is as clear to me 43 years later as if it were yesterday.
Sadly by the time I was 5 my grandmother had passed away very suddenly. The world as I knew it changed. Twickenham was never the same. My mother was utterly devastated and our hearts were broken, the farmhouse and the land were sold.
The memories of this place, of the aroma of cooking apples and crunch of the Apple Crumble remain as vivid for me as if they were yesterday. So it's hardly surprising that I harboured a somewhat obsessive desire to recreate the exact sensation of having Apple Crumble at Nanas.
So after 46 years I have achieved one of my life goals. I've finally mastered recreating the most beautiful thing I have ever tasted, that's something worth writing about in my opinion. At nearly 40 I finally had a beautiful little boy I was determined to share my love of Apple Crumble with him.
Just the fragrance evokes such wonderful childhood memories of exploring the grounds of Twickenham, watching Nana dig around the veggie garden outside the kitchen and sitting in the kitchen with my mum and my big sister watching Nana Cook, whilst keeping a watchful eye on the ever present huntsman spiders that always seemed to be lurking in that kitchen.
Me at about 3 on the path leading from the bottom driveway up to the house
Now that I'm regularly cooking Nana's Apple Crumble for my son, with organic ingredients of course, I'm pleased to report his evaluation is "Hmmmmm I really like this Apple Crumble Mummy". What better review can you get than that??!!!
So many childhood memories encompass meal times, one of the reasons a dinner time at the table with my son is one of the most important parts of my day. I'd love you to try the recipe I've added at the end of this article. I hope it helps create beautiful memories for your family too.
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Nana's Amazing Organic Apple Crumble
Using organic ingredients means the simple flavour of the apples and coconut are the star of this dish. Try to use organic flour, sugar, rolled oats and butter and you'll have a beautiful chemical free dessert.
150g (1 cup) plain flour
100g (1/2 cup, firmly packed) brown sugar
100g chilled butter, chopped
50g (1/2 cup) rolled oats
60g (1/2 cup) dedicated coconut
1/4 tsp All Spice
8 large cooking apples
Vanilla ice-cream, to serve
Step 1
Preheat oven to 180°C. Combine the flour, sugar, butter and oats and coconut in a bowl.
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Use your fingertips to rub the butter into the mixture until butter is mixed in.
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Spoon the apple into a pot and add 1/2 cup water, simmer on a low heat for 5 minutes until just soft. Scoop into a medium size baking dish and mix in 1/4 tsp of all spice. Then sprinkle the crumble mixture on top evenly. Bake in oven for 15-25 minutes or until golden. Spoon the apple crumble into serving bowls.
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19 June 2017
The Van Gogh Museum today welcomed the millionth visitor of 2017, more than two weeks earlier than last year, when the museum attracted a record number of nearly 2.1 million visitors. Since 1 January 2017, the museum greeted in excess of 9% more visitors than in the same period in the previous year.
Axel Rüger, Director of the Van Gogh Museum: 'It is outstanding that visitor numbers this year currently exceed the record-breaking year of 2016, and that we continue to inspire people from all over the world. All the more because our visitors rate the museum so highly: the vast majority of visitors give their visit a rating of 'excellent' or 'very good'. It is this visitor satisfaction that really matters to us'.
In addition to rising visitor numbers, online interest in the Van Gogh Museum also continues to grow. The sustained increase in online sales of tickets with a specified start time enables improved visitor distribution. What's more, with in excess of 1.7 million 'likes', the Van Gogh Museum Facebook page now ranks amongst the world's five most popular museums on Facebook.
Growth in number of Dutch and international visitors
The Van Gogh Museum not only holds great appeal to international culture fans: in the initial months of 2017, the number of Dutch visitors increased by more than 20%. This year, they visited the museum to be inspired by exhibitions including Prints in Paris 1900: From Elite to Street (3 March to 11 June 2017), which focused on fin-de-siècle prints, and Van Gogh Returns (22 March to 14 May 2017), the special presentation of the two stolen works that were recovered close to Naples in September 2016.
More online tickets with start time
Sales of tickets with a start time have risen rapidly in recent months, which has enabled improved distribution of visitors throughout the day. Hereby the museum's capacity is also put to best use in off-peak periods. In turn, this has resulted in improved visitor ratings: 88% of all visitors rate their time at the museum as 'excellent' or 'very good'.
Spectacular growth in online fans
In addition to high visitor numbers, interest in the art and life of Vincent van Gogh has also resulted in spectacular growth in the online fan base. The Van Gogh Museum Facebook page now has more than 1.7 million 'likes', an increase of 600,000 since 2016, making the museum one of the world's top-5 most popular museums on Facebook. The museum's Instagram page also continues to steadily gain in popularity: it currently has 395.000 followers, and is welcoming thousands more every week.
The website of the museum currently received 1.6 unique visitors in 2017. The number of visits to the online museum shop increased with almost 40% in the first months of this year compared to last year.


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A qualification in health and social care gives you the foundation to work in a broad range of roles across healthcare and social services. Steph currently works as a nurse on a respiratory ward, but says there are many other roles available to her!
After finishing her GCSEs at school, Steph knew that she was interested in a career in Health and Social Care, so didn't hesitate to apply for the course. She wasn't sure exactly what career path she wanted to take, but after starting the course it was clear that were multiple pathways were possible.
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Spending the week without a computer (or with a computer but busy with set-ups) meant that I didn't post my thankfuls to facebook for most of the week. I thought them, but didn't write them down. I've realized that as thankful as I can feel in my heart, there is something truely empowering about the act of recording those feelings.
Thankful for that little life lesson.
An attempt to recreate a week's worth of gratitude:
Day 15: is thankful today for her friendly community library. Not only does it feed my life-long book addiction, but today it is allowing me to tell you all that I have NO COMPUTER. Thank you Community Access!
Day 16: is thankful today for the quiet. Suddenly with no computer I have a lot more time for things that usually get pushed aside (like housekeeping) and a lot more room for peaceful reflection in my heart and head. I'm thankful for the break.
Day 17: is thankful for my husband's gifts and talents and skills. Without him this computer crisis would be a lot bigger and a LOT more expensive. I guess I should stop teasing him about how I would be better served if he were to become a chiropracter (like his father and brother) and give thanks for his computer savvy. You rock, Hubby!
Day 18: is thankful to have found a treasure trove of old e-mails, funny forwards, school papers and little love notes (from Hubby, before he was Hubby) on a bunch of old floppy disks. My very own bunch of letters in the attic tied with ribbon---21st century style. So much fun reading through them (and transferring them to the new computer).
Day 19: is thankful to be back online and is thankful for online sharing and education. Attending a great class on CreativeLIVE and wishing I could attend all weekend long. Great information. I'm so thankful that there are so many people willing to share their knowledge and experience with the world.
Day 20: is thankful for sleep and wishing I was getting some. Kidding! (Mostly) Attending a Girl Guide sleepover with a great bunch of girls. I'm thankful for them, for their supportive parents, the organizers of the event (450 girls, 1 mall) and the Girl Guide program. Love it!
Day 21: is thankful for Christmas music. I love this time of year. Christmas choir at church, Cantata for the community....my heart is full.
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Celebrated star Mahesh Babu is enjoying the success of his latest release, Maharshi. The film is unstoppable at the ticket-window and running with packed houses successfully. The actor and his wife, Namrata Shirodkar are not only the popular Tollywood couples but also doting parents. Despite Mahesh's busy schedule, he makes sure to spend time with his kids. ON the other side, Namara keeps giving us a glimpse of her life with kids though Instagram pictures.
Mahesh recently spoke about the menace of video games and how the PUBG has become an addiction is a known affair. Folwingthis, Mahesh has restricted Sitara and Gautam from playing video games stating he has set only one hour time for them. He says, "The craze for video games is too high these days. We need to impose curbs on children at homes. We need to tell them they can play the games only during specific timings. Otherwise, they would be stuck with them all day. They are getting too addicted. I have told my children that they can play video games only for one hour between 6 pm and 8 pm (sic)."


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Usher Positive
Bio: I've been watching myself go blind for over 20 years. I was diagnosed with Retinitis Pigmentosa (RP) in my late teens, having lived with deafness from birth due to Usher Syndrome. I knew I would at some point start to lose my sight, but I had no idea what going blind would actually look like. Retinitis Pigmentosa is a stealthy eye disease, it sneaks up on you and catches you unaware. At diagnosis most people have already lost a considerable amount of sight. I had years of warning with full sight and was able to observe each change from the beginning. It is a very hard condition to explain. This is why I want to share my insights from watching myself go blind, to demystify it for others and make it a little less scary.


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The Current State of America's Favorite Boyband
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May 13, 2019
A few weeks ago, you could've found singer Kevin Abstract pacing on a treadmill in his hometown of Corpus Christi, TX for 10 hours straight, now, we find him questioning the creative and financial direction of Brockhampton. With all of this media attention, fans have started to question what the current...
Brockhampton and the Redefinition of Boy Bands
SarahW, Co-Copy-Editor
November 27, 2017
It used to be that boy bands were so structured, that it was hard for any of them to be different from each other. Each group made almost the same corny pop love songs, had one "punk" member for the teenage goths to relate to, and each member had their own "distinctive style" for merchandise purpos...


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elder, It is witnessed that you ask me questions only for the purpose of dissing and of mocking the truth that I answer, and not because you truly desire to know the truth. Therefore, do not address me until you are ready to accept my words.
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Just out of curiosity as an open statement do you feel that Ananias, Sapphira, King Saul, Judas, The unprofitable servant, the young ruler, etc Made it into Heaven?
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Why will some of the eternal securists not tackle this question.
These were all believers and heirs who went horribly astray, do you think they made it to Heaven?
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Mark V: God never leaves us. It is we who leave Him.
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Tony, great answer you gave. One reason people object that salvation is not a guarantee, is because they believe that works is involve in our salvation. The sufficiency of Christ death on the cross is not enough to save anyone. That it needs the merits of man in order for it to save. That theology come from the RCC. Legalism is confused with Obedience and discipline that comes after a sinner is forgiven. To suggest that the death of Christ is not enough, and that when you sin, He has to die for you again is not biblical. They ignore the work of the Spirit in the believers life.
on 4/18/11
Matthew 27:46 says, My God, My God, why have you forsaken me? At that point on the Cross, Christ suffered the punishment of my sin, experiencing the wrath of God, that I may never have to. Pretty good news for me. He who knew no sin became sin for me and took my sin upon Himself, that I might never come into condemnation. He will never forsake me, because, Christ was forsaken on the cross for His people. He did what I could never do. I'm very thankful that in Christ I have everlasting life.
on 4/17/11
Deuteronomy 21:19 "Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place,"
21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:"
Did that "stubborn and rebellious son" remain a son while being stoned to death? Did Abel remain Cain's brother after and during his slaying?
The answer is yes and yes, and so what?
on 4/16/11
Steven G, I could not find your comment in the Bible, maybe I missed it, you said:
"God will promise that he never leave you nor forsake you IF you continue to walk in his ways."
If God said, He will never leave you, and turns around and leaves you, He would never had said "Never". He does not speak with fork tongue.
Do an online on the word "Never" see what you get.
on 4/16/11
Eloy, while the " Prodigal Son" was away from his father did he remain his father's son? Or, did he have to get physically born all over again?
By the way have you ever left the Father and sinned? Did you lose your salvation?
Are you saved or lost now?
Judging by the way you write you are_____________!
on 4/16/11
steveng, the prodigal repented, for if he would not have then he would have remain separated from his father and he would have remained in his condemnation and would most certainly would have perished in his foolishness: but as the story goes he indeed repented and thereby was restored to his father and partook of hjis father's blessings.
on 4/16/11
What do you think?
---aka on 4/15/11
In most cases, words will define themselves in the Old Testament.
The word "Remission", is not used in the Old Testament.
Since it's not used in the Old Testament, the word is exclusive to the New Covenant.
Therefore, the word "Remission" must be more than just forgiveness of sin, because Forgiveness and attonement of Sin were offered under the Old covenant.(Lev:5)
I believe the word "Remission" is being used, as we use the word when speaking of Cancer, and like Cancer, sin goes into "Remission".
It is the "Remission" of sin, through Grace, that keeps those who repent from turning into a "Ted Bundy".
on 4/16/11
It is Not your salvation to lose. Salvation is of the Lord Jonah 2:9
on 4/16/11
NO you can not!
on 4/15/11
\\luny, Again, do not address me until you are ready to accept my words.
---Eloy on 4/15/11\\
It's because I receive Jesus's words that I reject yours, Eloy.
You don't speak for anybody but yourself.
That's because you're sinuous dissing usaved clay with no light in you, and the righteousness you claim for yourself is as filthy rags.
on 4/15/11
kathr4453: "Is mima a newly born christian stevenG?
Did you not read my entire post? She might have not understood it the first time it was asked.
kathr4453: "This question has not been asked from the beginning of time."
Did you not read the entire OT? some asked the same question about belief.
kathr4453: "Ist century christians who understood the gospel, using scripture alone never asked this."
Humans have never changed from the beginning.
on 4/15/11
//Why do you think the Early Bible translators, translated it into two different words, words that can not be used in the same context?//
David, i have boiled most bible translation into two motives: to agree in context to support Scripture in whole and to support doctrine (whether true or false).
Both uses of the word seem to be consistent with the context around it. wherever I found forgiveness, I found God. Whenever i saw remission, it usually refereed to blood or Jesus. (but, my 'research' was quick and i might be in error.)
Also, remember, in context our word "bad" can mean bad or good depending on context. what do you think?
on 4/15/11
Eloy: "Backsliders are not saved.
Have you not read the parables of The Prodigal Son or The Sower? The backslider is a person who takes one step forward and two steps back. One part of The Sower is when a person takes the word of God with enthusiasm then loses it.
on 4/15/11
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I agree with you. And the last I knew you aren't a Calvinist, just as I am not.
It just looks to me like in every instance God takes many more steps toward us than we do toward Him. He is the shepherd who seeks out the wandering sheep...the father who eagerly looks for his errant son's homecoming.
2Ti 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Like a loving father, he is quick to chastise His children when they need it...but His children still remain His children.
on 4/15/11
For those who believe "once saved, always save" based upon the promise "I will never leave you nor forsake you" is misunderstanding the promise. God will promise that he never leave you nor forsake you IF you continue to walk in his ways. Otherwise, if you backslide, you will suffer the consequences.
It's obvious that no one has read the biblical warnings I posted about christians who are led astray.
on 4/15/11
\\The person that is of God hears God's words: you all therefore hear not, because you all are not of God. \\
Eloy, you ran out of God's words a long time ago and have been using your own.
on 4/15/11
The doctrine of the eternal security of the Believer or once saved always saved is grounded in Calvanist as is one of the main points from the acronym Tulip.
Those who teach Once saved alwasys saved reject some of Calvanism but keeping the one part that lets them live as they please and get to heaven no matter what.
I believe it was John MacArthur who said those who are saved will live as the saved always so therefore they are always saved.
So if you live as a person who does not want to go to heaven who just wants to avoid hell. Then you are not saved.
Those who are saved are learning to hate sin and love GOD. If not then no matter your doctrine you are not saved.
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"I will never leave you nor forsake you"
I would regard this as meaning that God will stay with us and support us as long as we want Him to.
On the other hand, Romans 8 says nothing can separate us from the love of God, and I would take that as meaning that all the attacks of Satan will fail, even if we have times of unbelief, God will not forsake us.
I do find Eloy's refusal to discuss things with those who don't hold the same view rather disturbing
on 4/15/11
Eloy...you shouldn't think of yourself more highly than you ought. Please read Romans 12:2-4.
on 4/15/11
luny, Again, do not address me until you are ready to accept my words.
on 4/15/11
"Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in talk.
The person that is of God hears God's words: you all therefore hear not, because you all are not of God.
We saints are of God: the person that knows God hears us, the person that is not of God hears not us. Hereby know we the Spirit of truth, and the spirit of error." Mt.22:15+ Jn.8:47+ I Jn.4:6.
on 4/15/11
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\\Backsliders are not saved.
---Eloy on 4/14/11\\
Does this mean that you weren't saved before you got born again the second time, Eloy?
And if so, does this also mean that your first time to be born again didn't take?
If your first time didn't take, how do you know your second time did--or anyone else's?
on 4/15/11
OTOH...Every month, I get a bill from the electric company that says, "Remit this amount by...". If (and only if) the payment is fully remitted, is it fully paid.
---aka on 4/14/11
Thanks Aka for both posts.
That's logical.
By your example, the word remit and forgive are not interchangeable.
The Electic bill would not use the word forgive in place of the word remit and say, "forgive this amount", if it did, then you would not pay the bill.
But as you said, the Greek word used for "Forgive and "Remission" is the same word.
Why do you think the Early Bible translators, translated it into two different words, words that can not be used in the same context?
on 4/15/11
The 'paid in full' and the 'we can lose salvation for lack of faith' only are both pipe dreams.
The first fails to recognize the social and personal duty of each as stated in Matthew 28:19-20.
Mind the detail,
"Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you..."
The second one fails equally as declared even by the same verse and James, the just of it: It is
faith and observance, not just faith alone, 2 Peter 1 also.
You 2 strike me as the fellow who went speechless at the wedding...
(Matt. 22:12)
on 4/15/11
"But if the unfaithful servant says in his heart, My Lord delays his coming: and begins to sin. The Lord of that servant will come in a day when that one not looking for, and in an hour that one is not aware of. Here I come quickly, hold that fast which you have that no person take your crown.
I had planted you a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then are you turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine to me? For though you wash you with natron, and take you much soap, your sin is marked before me. It is happened to them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again, and the pig that was washed to her wallowing in the feces." Mt.24:48-50+ Rv.3:11+ Jr.2:21,22+ II Pt.2:22.
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MarkV, Again, do not address me until you are ready to accept my words.
on 4/14/11
Backsliders are not saved.
on 4/14/11
You know every time I read Eloy posts.
It never fail, this verse always come to me.
Eloy you may think I'm speaking against you.
But, I'm not, I just think you should understand.
Luk 7:39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.
Luk 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
Luk 7:48 And he said unto her, Thy sins are forgiven.
Thy faith hath saved thee, go in peace.
on 4/14/11
was there a difference in the message then? is there a difference now? ---aka on 4/14/11
OTOH...Every month, I get a bill from the electric company that says, "Remit this amount by...". If (and only if) the payment is fully remitted, is it fully paid. Unless fully paid, there is no forgiveness.
Since Jesus remitted our sin debt for us, it now fully paid and is in effect totally forgiven.
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood, and without shedding of blood is no remission...Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
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We will never lose salvation because of sin,but we can lose salvation for lack of faith.
We are saved(have life) through faith alone. Jesus Christ took care of the sin issue at the Cross.
on 4/14/11
Just out of curiosity as an open statement do you feel that Ananias, Sapphira, King Saul, Judas, The unprofitable servant, the young ruler, etc Made it into Heaven?
on 4/14/11
Acts 5:31 forgiveness of sin
Acts 2:38 remission of sin
same version, same word...'aphesis'.
what was the interpreters thinking then? what are you thinking now?
was there a difference in the message then? is there a difference now?
on 4/14/11
Eloy, don't compare God's actions with man. God is not a sinful. God's word is Truth. God says,
"I will never leave you nor forsake you"
If He can never leave you how can you leave Him? Not possible? Can you run away from God who will never leave you?
You say:
"From then many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him."
Those who left were not believers. God also said,
I never knew you"
if they had been His, He would have known them.
"They went out from us, but they were not of us, for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us, but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us"
They were unbelievers.
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mima, can a wife lose her husband, or a husband lose his wife? Yes, just as a person can leave their spouse, likewise people can leave their God rather than stay with him: "From then many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus to the twelve,
Will all you also go away?
Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom will we go? you have the words of eternal life. And we believe and know that you are that Christ, the Son of the living God." Jn.6:66-69.
on 4/13/11
There is much in the Bible about God's displeasure with sin, but not about His taking back forgiveness once given.
---Donna66 on 4/13/11
Just a thought.
Why does (Acts 2:38) say "Repent and be Baptized for the
"Remission of sin"
and not "Repent and be baptized for the
forgiveness of sin
Does forgiveness and remission mean the same thing?
on 4/14/11
There is much in the Bible about God's displeasure with sin, but not about His taking back forgiveness once given.
---Donna66 on 4/13/11
Donna their is much in the Bible that indicates God will withdraw His forgiveness.
Just a few,
John 15:2
Matt 18:23-35
A lot more if you search.
God Bless, Paul
on 4/14/11
Mark_Eaton, I so wish people would study all the different covenants in scripture. There are condiitional covenants, as the Law of Moses, placing the burden of keeping the Law for blessings on man, and UNCONDITIONAL Covenants, where the burden of Keeping is on God.
God is able to KEEP all that I have committed unto Him until that day. I gave Him my life, and HE WILL keep it.
Oh what a REST one will find in that truth!
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Or it may be a newly born christian asking for the first time and never reading the first time it was asked.
---Steveng on 4/13/11
Is mima a newly born christian stevenG? If it was an unknown name here, I would not have said that.
This question has not been asked from the beginning of time. It began with the arminians, who if I'm not mistaken, began around the reformation.
Ist century christians who understood the gospel, using scripture alone never asked this.
on 4/14/11
"Remember we are in a COVENANT. But that covenant is not IF you will, then I will. The New Covenant is I WILL DO IT, says the Lord.
If that were not the case, no need for the NEW Covenant to begin with."
---kathr4453 on 4/13/11
Where is 'I WILL DO IT' here:
John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."
John 15:12
on 4/14/11
Reading this, all that come to my mine is.
If you can lose it, I could say maybe, but there no maybe about it.
You never knew it.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
1Co 2:11-16
I believe it.
on 4/14/11
WHO does the saving?
We must be willing. But it is GOD who provides the Salvation.
If we had to DO something special to gain salvation, I'd say we could lose it. But since it comes as a gift of Grace from God, He would have to withdraw the gift for us to be lost.
There is much in the Bible about God's displeasure with sin, but not about His taking back forgiveness once given.
Can we wander in our walk of faith? Definitely, but we have parables and evidences galore of God persevering in His search for one who has strayed.. Does God change His mind? I don't think so.
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How many times do we have this question?
---kathr4453 on 4/13/11
Thank you Kathr. Your post was right on point. My post seemed to distract rather than attract.
My point was to emphasize that we cannot lose something we do not possess. Additionally, if we do not possess it, then someone must have to give it to us so that we will possess it.
When we make salvation something that we can possess, then we assume we can lose it. But when we understand that we cannot possess our salvation, then we can see that our salvation is only given by God. It is not something that can be lost through our actions.
on 4/13/11
Your using a play on words here, I dont know which translation you are using but it is far different then the KJV or the NKJV.
Ro 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
Or faith in Christ
1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Or of the redeemed
1Pe 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
The atoning redemptive power of His resurrection.
Please dont confuse by the Word of God.
on 4/13/11
kathr4453: "How many times do we have this question?"
This question has been asked since the time of Christ and will continue until his return. You need to be patient with people asking this same question. I've been asked many questions in my twenty years of being a christin. The people who asked might have not understood the last time it was asked. Or it may be a newly born christian asking for the first time and never reading the first time it was asked.
on 4/13/11
Consider these warnings:
Matthew 5:13
I Corinthians 10:6-12
I Corinthians 15:1-2
Colossians 1:22-23
I Timothy 1:18-19
Hebrews 2:1-3
Hebrews 3:12-14
Hebrews 4:11
Hebrews 6:4-6
Hebrews 10:26-29
Hebrews 10:35-38
Hebrews 12:25
James 5:19-20
II Peter 1:8-11
II Peter 3:17
When reading these verses, pay attention to the words "if", "put away", "slip", "neglect", "depart", "unbelief", "cast away", "turn away".
If Jesus' words remain in us, only then do we continue in the Son and in the Father.
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Salvation is a choice just as sin is a choice, so "Yes a person can lose their salvation absolutely, it is called backsliding: for many people substitute sin for salvation.
on 4/13/11
Luk 15:32 It was fitting to celebrate and be glad, for this your brother was dead, and is alive, he was lost, and is found.'"
dead when lost and made alive when found...not dead, then alive, then lost, then found.
--aka on 4/12/11
Scripture says he is "Alive Again', so he was alive to begin with and then was 'dead'(Spirtual Dead), he was cut-off from (God)Father until he repented then he became Alive Again...
on 4/13/11
My question to the people who say yes is this, which salvation can you loose in the next sentence?
We have been saved, we are being saved, and we will be saved.
---Mark_Eaton on 4/12/11
(WE have been saved):
Rom. 8:24 - "for in this hope we were saved" But why "hope" if it is a shoot in?
(WE are being saved):
2 Cor. 2:15 - "for we are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved." Salvation is on-going process-"Being"
(We will be saved):
Mark 13:13-"but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." We must "Endure"
on 4/13/11
Can you elaborate on that in a Biblical since?
---paul on 4/12/11
First, past tense or "been saved".
Rom 8:24 "For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope, for who hopes for what he already sees?"
Next present tense or "being saved".
1 Cor 1:18 "For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God"
Lastly, future tense or "will be saved".
1 Peter 1:5 "who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time".
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How many times do we have this question?
NO! You cannot Lose your salvation, if you were truly saved in the first place.
Jesus is the SURETY of the New Covenant. Look up SURETY before you object. in a simpler way of saying it. He makes SURE you wont. because He is and takes responsibility for your salvation, once saved.
Remember we are in a COVENANT. But that covenant is not IF you will, then I will. The New Covenant is I WILL DO IT, says the Lord.
If that were not the case, no need for the NEW Covenant to begin with.
on 4/13/11
Though I agree with the limited word capacity I also must conclude that their is not a valid point to your comment.
We are limited here but we can still discuss issues, nothing personal but I have noticed you like to post on the fly by without much indepth analogy into the subject.
One must understand in a debate that they must be able to defend their point while posing valid counter points, not just comment and quit, expecting all to acknowledge your comment as proof simply because.
And don't get me wrong I enjoy dialog with you when it is give and take, not just you give your perceived facts and me take them as the gospel.
God Bless, Paul
on 4/13/11
\\Are you determining once saved always saved to be after the endurance (maintainance) is complete and you hear well done good and faithful servant enter in for you've kept the faith and run the race to be the point by which you are saved and that you cant lose it then for your in Heaven?\\
Well, we certainly won't know for sure until then, now will we?
But as I said earlier, this is a topic that can't be discussed properly in only 125 words.
on 4/13/11
dead when lost and made alive when found...not dead, then alive, then lost, then found.
---aka on 4/12/11
He was found and alive before he left then he was dead and lost and made alive again when HE came to his since and went back and reconciled to become alive again.
God Bless, Paul
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"No, but there's a great deal of difference between a conversion experience and being saved.
A lot of people here confuse the two."
I may not understand your meaning of the words, "conversion" and "saved" but this is one of the best statements you have made on CN.
The two are certainly different and create a lot of confusion.
on 4/12/11
I won't argue with you, Mark.
on 4/12/11
Luk 15:32 It was fitting to celebrate and be glad, for this your brother was dead, and is alive, he was lost, and is found.'"
dead when lost and made alive when found...not dead, then alive, then lost, then found.
mima, if one is truly delivered, then the salvation will not be lost.
but, who the judge is seems to be the issue...the truth of how we interpret Scripture or the Truth of the Scripture.
on 4/12/11
As I understand it, salvation encompasses the whole human race. So whatever you can lose does not include salvation.
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MarkV, who are these scriptures referring to?
Hebrews 10:19-29
Please respond.
on 4/12/11
I agree to a point with your premise of those who endure shall be saved.
Here's the breakdown in your theology,IMHO, if you believe one cant lose their salvation ever but can run the race and not finish doesn't that indicate that they lost after beginning the race
If your name is written in the book of life upon conversion you are as saved as you will ever be contingent upon maintaining or enduring until the point of hearing well done
on 4/12/11
Can you elaborate on that in a Biblical since?
God Bless, Paul
on 4/12/11
There are many verses throughout Scripture warning Christians not to turn away from the faith or suffer the consequences. If there are warnings, then there surely is the truth that it is possible to turn from the faith. In today's world it is very, very easy to turn from the faith. If you think you are strong in the faith take heed that you shall fall. The Parable of the Sower shows that some christians were enthused about their faith in the beginning, but later died.
Are you able to endure the soon-to-come tribulation puting you through the fire to test your faith?
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Did not Christ tell his Father in John 17:12 "those you have given me I have kept and not one of them is lost"?
Some believe he was refering to the 11 chose for apostolic office, others interpret believers in general. I'm not sure but I
would tend to say you can't lose your salvation because if you could lose your salvation you certainly would..exhibit one Genesis 6:5
Good question.
on 4/12/11
leslie--The "book of life" is the book of the living (not necessarily Christians). If a person dies after a life without Christ, his name is blotted out. If he has been redeemed by Christ, he gets the white robe and acknowledgment by the Son and the Father.
You assume that I Tim 4:1 and II Pet 1: 2:20-22 are speaking of Christians. Sounds to me more like people who had some knowledge of Jesus and joined themselves to a Christian group, but were never truly redeemed.
on 4/12/11
Are you determining once saved always saved to be after the endurance (maintainance) is complete and you hear well done good and faithful servant enter in for you've kept the faith and run the race to be the point by which you are saved and that you cant lose it then for your in Heaven?
on 4/12/11
We are warned of what will happen if we turn against God.
But if we have each been "joined to the Lord" (1 Corinthians 6:17), His power almighty has us joined and changes us to become obedient.
And John says, "if they had been of us, they would have continued with us, but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us," in 1 John 2:19.
If we are God's children, God succeeds at getting us to do all that He commands > His word does not fail (Isaiah 55:11) > Philippians 1:6, 1 John 4:17-18. God succeeds.
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No, Jesus took my sins upon Himself on the cross, therefore I have eternal life, which I'm very thankful for.
on 4/12/11
\\Would you enlighten us to the difference between being saved from sin to salvation by our savior and being converted from a lost sinner to a saved saint of God (Christian).\\
It would take more than 125 words, but to use one of St. Paul's metaphors, the crown goes not to those who begin the race, but to those who compete lawfully and finish the course.
Does that help?
on 4/12/11
My question to the people who say yes is this, which salvation can you loose in the next sentence?
We have been saved, we are being saved, and we will be saved.
This is the Biblical vision of Salvation.
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Would you enlighten us to the difference between being saved from sin to salvation by our savior and being converted from a lost sinner to a saved saint of God (Christian).
Just curious, Paul
on 4/12/11
Yes. Anyone who has returned to the worlds ways (aka backslidden) & doesn't repent can lose their way.God is very selective to his children. His true children obey him & donot turn to the way of the world anymore after they left.
on 4/12/11
According to the Bible you CAN lose your salvation by CHOOSING to walk away from God and toward sin (Revelation 3:5). How can your name be blotted out (erased) unless it was there to begin with? Also look at 1 Timothy 4:1 (Christians departing from the faith) and 2 Peter 2:20-22 (Christians departing from the faith and going back to the world and sin).
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There are so many interesting things in Miami that I could literally recommend you a hundred of great places to visit. But if I had to choose, my personal favorite would be Ocean Drive. Ocean Drive is known all around the world for its proximity to the beach, for the unique architecture of the buildings and of course for the immense variety of restaurants and bars that you will find there. P.S. If you see me at Johnny Rockets, I'll buy you a drink!
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Elias has been a wonderful addition to the Advanced Class due to his great critical thinking skills and his ability to use the English Language to express himself and his opinions. When he provides his points of view it is done in a coherent, well-structured manner while still sounding natural, almost native-like. This is impressive not only because he is able to implement difficult vocabulary and grammar structures into conversation, but also because most of the conversations in my class are difficult topics to grasp in any language. It is always a joy to have students with strong opinions as well as open minds in my class discussions and it is my sincere pleasure to be able to teach students like Elias reach the next level to better express themselves.


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Tonight's full harvest moon will be fat with abundance and reward. A reap what you sow moon.
Rising low and big in the sky, it provides the perfect back drop for a little moon magic. And what better thing to celebrate and welcome with this moon than prosperity.
When I say prosperity, I don't only mean money and material prosperity, although of course a little extra money is always nice. But I mean truly too prosper….in our relationships, in our endeavours and in our wellbeing. Too glow with abundance, and contentment and to share this sunshine with others where we are able.
So often people strive for more and more and lose sight that sometimes we have enough. We are enough. We are prosperous. We have what we need to thrive.
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Well, well, well.
Almost a half a year of scouring everything he could, and what does Robert Mueller come up with?
An indictment against Paul Manafort and his associate, Rick Gates, for activities which ended in 2014. Years before Donald Trump's presidential campaign.
But the nature of the indictments may well had an unintentional fallout.
From Tyler O'Neil's article at PJ Media (the bold print is mine):
After the arrest of Paul Manafort on Monday, Hillary Clinton bundler Tony Podesta announced he would be stepping down from leading the Podesta Group and that the firm would dissolve. Tony Podesta co-founded the firm with his brother John Podesta, who would become Clinton's campaign manager for the 2016 election.
Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Donald Trump's Russia connections followed Manafort, Trump's former campaign chairman. Manafort turned himself in to the FBI on Monday, after being indicted on 12 counts, among which were "conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts."
Interestingly, many of these charges could also be applied to Podesta. Manafort worked for the Party of Regions, a pro-Russia Ukrainian political party whose president, Viktor Yanukovych, ruled Ukraine between 2010 and 2014. Amid the "Panama Papers" leak emerged a Party of Regions ledger listing $12.7 million in cash payments for Manafort.
Will it occur to our wonderful "neutral" media that the sudden shut-down of Podesta's operations, on the same day that Manafort is indicted for what Podesta and his company did, is not a coincidence?
It sure as bleep occurs to me.
Just as I hope it occurs to you that, since the Manafort/Gate indictments are based on his activities only up to 2014, they have exactly nothing whatsoever to do with the 206 campaign.
(Say, isn't the 2016 campaign what Mueller and his partisan band of investigators are supposed to be looking into?)
But in case this still doesn't register fully, please read this excerpt from Olivia Beavers and Megan R. Wilson's article at thehill.com:
The Podesta Group and Mercury both did work to benefit a pro-Russia Ukrainian party through Brussels-based nonprofit European Centre for a Modern Ukraine. The Podesta Group earned more than $1.2 million from the client from 2012 through 2014, according to disclosures it filed with the Justice Department.
The companies were not paid by the nonprofit, the indictment says, but by offshore bank accounts run by Gates and Manafort that collectively paid them more than $2 million for their work.
In other words, the Manafort/Gates indictments have nothing to do with collusion between Russia and Trump, but they have plenty to do with collusion between Russia and The Podesta group – run by Democrat operative Tony Podesta, brother of Hillary Clinton's campaign chair, John Podesta.
Still think the Podesta Group shut-down is a concidence?


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Switchy - the unique LED interchangeable frame for glass back walls
The kitchen is a focal point in modern lifestyles. It is where we work, cook, eat, drink, celebrate and live our lives. No other room in the house needs to be as flexible when it comes to design specifications as the kitchen. It has to be low-maintenance and practical, but it should also have a comfortable and welcoming atmosphere. The new Switchy interchangeable glass frame meets all these requirements and offers plenty more besides. Exclusively patented by Lechner, it lets you design unique illuminated kitchen back walls, which can be changed to suit your needs in just a few simple steps.
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Switchy is the new backlit interchangeable frame for glass back walls. The patented system from Lechner makes it quick and easy to change the glass panel. So you can give your kitchen a new look in just a few easy steps.
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The Switchy picture frame can be glued to the wall. The glass insert is securely fixed in the frame by an all-round magnetic strip. The glass insert is loosened with the suction lifter and lifted out of the frame for easy motif change. The new motif can now be inserted. Note: you can replace the LED strips at any time thanks to our patented system.


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ISF supports Islamic organizations and mosques by planning and managing joint scholarships. ISF is honored to host the ISF-MCA Scholarship of the Muslim Community Association of the Bay Area, MCA. The ISF-MCA Scholarship program is only open to members and individuals affiliated with the MCA. Each eligible applicant must be:-Active member of the MCA-Attending an accredited university in the U.S.-Majoring in an ISF supported field of study-Maintaining a minimum 3.0 GPA-Citizen of permanent resident of the U.S.-An undergraduate (sophomore/junior/senior) or graduate studentFor more information or to apply, please visit the scholarship provider's website.
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text: Race determined housing sites, researcher testifies December 03, 2003The "dominant factor" in where to put single-family public housing units in Baltimore in the 1970s and 1980s was race, a Cornell University researcher told a federal judge here yesterday. Rolf Pendall, an associate professor in Cornell's Department of Regional and City Planning, said that census tracts with predominantly black populations were up to 12 times more likely to be selected as locations for individual, scattered-site housing than tracts that were mostly white. Pendall said his analysis eliminated the impact of such factors as population loss and vacancy rates. Pendall's testimony came on the second day of a trial on discrimination claims brought by public housing residents against the city and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Links: FULL STORY In The Baltimore SunRELATED STORY In The Baltimore Sun Read more about Race determined housing sites, researcher testifies


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Rava Appam Recipe
Recipe Category: Snack | Recipe Cuisine: Indian
Fine Rava – 1/2 cup
Wheat Flour – 1/4 cup
Maida – 1/4 cup
Sugar – 1/4 cup + 2 tbsp
Coconut – 2 tbsp grated
Cardamom powder – 1/4 tsp
Cooking soda – 1/8 tsp
Salt – a tiny pinch
Water – as needed
Oil – to deep fry
- Take rava in a mixing bowl, add water till immersing level, water should not float.Set aside for an hr.
- After an hr add wheat flour and maida, then sugar to rava mixture.
- Add water to it and mix well to form a thickish batter, more like idli batter consistency.
- Add coconut, cardamom powder, baking soda and salt , mix well.Heat oil – spoon the batter and add it to the kadai.Use a deep curved laddle / spoon to get round shaped appams.
- Do not crowd , it will puff up well.Cook on both sides till golden brown.Drain in tissue paper.
Serve hot / warm!
My Notes:
- I made small appams to fit in my kadai.
- Adding wheat flour is optional.You can add maida instead.
- After adding baking soda,do not let it rest.Make the appams at once.
- If you want to cut down oil,then make it in paniyaram pan.


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Community Council Minutes 20080522
IRC log, Community Council Meeting 2008-05-22, 18:30 UTC
- Sophie Gautier (sophi)
- Martin Hollmichel (_Nesshof__)
- Matthias Huetsch (mhu/mh2)
- Pavel Janík (paveljanik)
- John McCreesh (jpmcc)
- Cor Nouws (CorNouws)
- Stefan Taxhet (stx12)
- Louis Suarez-Potts
IRC meeting commences 18:41 UTC (timestamp is +0100)
(18:41:02) jpmcc: Stefan, do you want to chair the mtg in LS-P's absence?
(18:42:24) stx12: jpmcc: feel free to go ahead - you were mentioned first ;-)
(18:43:14) jpmcc: Item 1 Minutes of the previous meeting - none
(18:43:58) CorNouws: Item 2: AI's
(18:44:06) jpmcc: Item 2 Actions - let's have a quick look through the IRC log...
(18:44:36) sophi: jpmcc: the first for me should be minutes of the meeting and I accept the task
(18:44:44) _Nesshof_: jpmcc: how will do today minutes ?
(18:45:00) ***_Nesshof_ is too slow
(18:45:12) ***_Nesshof_ steps back
(18:45:32) jpmcc: sophi: thank you
(18:45:36) sophi: _Nesshof_: me, I propose myself
(18:45:48) _Nesshof_: :-)
(18:46:06) jpmcc: The only AIs I can see from the IRC log are for Louis, unless anyone else can see some?
(18:46:39) CorNouws: We talked about the AB, invite them to something
(18:47:18) sophi: CorNouws: this is in the todo list, invite them to say what they are exactly doing :)
(18:47:20) jpmcc: CorNouws: I think that's on the Agenda for tonight
(18:47:56) CorNouws: jpmcc: Ah, I see
(18:48:23) jpmcc: OK, moving on to tonight's items: Elections.
(18:48:54) jpmcc: > Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > [...] > >> As to elections. I'd like to propose for this night's meeting that >> we broaden the eligible candidates to include not just accepted >> project leads (current state) but also leads of the Incubator and >> Native Language and any other similar category, though addition of >> such as yet nonexistent ones can be done on a case-by-case basis. >
(18:49:30) sophi: jpmcc: I second Stefan opinion
(18:49:57) mhu: I also second Stefan
(18:50:04) paveljanik: +1
(18:50:12) CorNouws: sophi: what about Louis' further explanation?
(18:50:12) Thalion72: +1 (to stefan)
(18:50:15) stx12: sophi. mhu: louis clarified what he meant
(18:50:37) stx12: i incorrectly understood that he would like to change the structure
(18:51:02) sophi: stx12: oups sorry didn't have the time to read his last mail
(18:51:09) mhu: so, can you quickly update us on lsp's proposal what he really meant?
(18:51:37) jpmcc: mhu: I don't understand it
(18:52:01) ***mhu sitting in another live meeting and can't read long emails right now, sorry
(18:52:05) stx12: louis wants to add the leads of the category to the people eligible for a cc seat (beyond the project leads)
(18:52:35) stx12: et's first discuss the idea of including in "accepted projects" the leads of Incubator and NLC categories. (Note, I'm lead of Incubator and co-lead of NLC but am already eligible, via Website and Community Manager. But one day I'll be replaced in those other projects. And by NLC leads I mean Charles and me, not the many NLC project leads.)
(18:52:50) stx12: that's the quote
(18:53:20) sophi: NLC leads are project leads of accepted projects
(18:53:51) Thalion72: sophi: no - formally not
(18:53:52) mhu: but that was what everybody did understand: he wants to change the rules; i cannot accept that with only 2 hours preparation
(18:54:04) stx12: yes, but there is a lead of the category - which is not eligible under our current charta
(18:54:24) Thalion72: mhu: no matter if we talk about more "project" or just "cathegory" leads .. it is a change of rules
(18:55:02) sophi: Thalion72: yes I agree
(18:55:13) stx12: yes, but do we feel comfortable to decide whether we would like to proceed with the change or do we need 2 more week to make up our mind?
(18:55:13) CorNouws: thalion72: That's true
(18:55:20) Thalion72: so - at the moment we would get 2 more people being eligible - but we would need to change the charter for that
(18:55:37) stx12: Thalion72: actually one 1
(18:55:41) stx12: Thalion72: actually only 1
(18:55:46) Thalion72: correct
(18:55:48) CorNouws: stx12: do we need the change for this elections, or is next time also OK?
(18:56:22) stx12: i think louis intend was to do it prior to current elections
(18:56:49) CorNouws: stx12: But di we see the/a need?
(18:57:29) Thalion72: CorNouws: there is a need, if we do not have enough candidates in project leads
(18:57:37) jpmcc: I think in principle that *all* community members should be elected.
(18:57:40) CorNouws left the room (quit: Remote closed the connection).
(18:58:03) stx12: i don't know how easy it will be to find candidates amoung the leads. and one category lead might be a strong candidate.
(18:58:03) Thalion72: jpmcc: hmm?
(18:58:21) paveljanik: if this should delay the vote, I vote against changing the rules now. I really would like to see new voting and new blood...
(18:58:53) jpmcc: Thallion72: I don;t think someone from the volunteers should automatically sit on the CC because they have a specific role
(18:59:00) Thalion72: stx12: it is never easy to find candidates - but we cannot tell if we never start looking for candidates in public
(18:59:49) Thalion72: jpmcc: we have nobody from the volunteers, who is automatic here
(19:00:17) Thalion72: btw - I agree to pavel - so I do not need two weeks to decide about the proposal :)
(19:00:23) stx12: in public? th erules are quite easy. ask on the project leads leads list for candidates from the accepted projects and from the NLC.
(19:01:01) stx12: Thalion72: you are against the proposal or against a dependency between elections and the proposal.
(19:01:03) Thalion72: stx12: yes - ok let's say on the list (not in public)
(19:01:23) jpmcc: Thallion72: If we accept Louis' proposal, then the Head of the NLC and the Head of Incubators ???? will automatically be on the cc
(19:01:32) Thalion72: stx12: against the dependency between elections and proposal
(19:01:47) stx12: jpmcc: no, they would be eligeble
(19:01:53) Thalion72: /reads the proposal again
(19:02:32) stx12: in plain words: charles is no project lead (afaik) but lead of the category NLC.
(19:02:47) jpmcc: stx12: you are correct (after re-reading the proposal)
(19:02:51) mhu: I still think that such a proposal cannot be voted upon with only 2 hours of prep, which I did not have.
(19:03:10) jpmcc: stx12: I though Charles was co-lead of the FR NL-P?
(19:03:19) Thalion72: mhu: so for the moment -1 to the proposal
(19:03:32) sophi: jpmcc: no, he is not
(19:03:59) _Nesshof_: sophi: is there a problem to made him a co lead ?
(19:04:00) stx12: i see a difference between -1 and "let's table it until the next meeting"
(19:04:21) sophi: _Nesshof_: not at all, provided he accepts :)
(19:04:35) mhu: stx12: thanks, that is what I wanted to say
(19:04:44) Thalion72: stx12: ok .. so let me say I officially abstain
(19:05:15) Thalion72: and looking forward to vote again, when we had more time to think about it
(19:05:19) stx12: i would propose we give people time until next meeting and officially vote on the proposal then.
(19:05:27) jpmcc: stx12: +1
(19:05:31) sophi: Thalion72: same for me, I need time :)
(19:05:44) mhu: stx12: +1
(19:05:49) sophi: stx12: +1
(19:06:18) ***_Nesshof_ will get grey in the CC
(19:06:22) _Nesshof_: +1
(19:06:26) Thalion72: +1
(19:06:46) stx12: we lost cor?
(19:07:00) Thalion72: yes, seems so
(19:07:06) paveljanik: if people need time, +1. But it SHOULD NOT DELAY the voting...
(19:07:22) jpmcc: OK, was there anything else to cover under the topic of "Elections"?
(19:08:04) stx12: i guess we have a quorum now with pavel; so louis will move forward with elections and sophie will see whether there is a need a need for a co-lead.
(19:08:07) Thalion72: let us please vote on pavel's claim: status of Louis' proposal should not delay current elections
(19:09:21) CorNouws [firstname.lastname@example.com] entered the room.
(19:09:35) jpmcc: Thallion72: so your proposal is we start the election process immediately using the current rules
(19:09:52) CorNouws: * Sorry, was fighting a unknown (for me) system
(19:09:53) Thalion72: yes
(19:10:08) stx12: jpmcc: yes, and that's my understanding too
(19:10:12) paveljanik: and sophie will solve the status of NLC category lead so..
(19:10:28) jpmcc: CorNous: we have agreed to defer Louis' proposal to change the rules to the next meeting to let people give it proper consideration.
(19:10:32) ***sophi missing something here
(19:10:43) CorNouws: jpmcc: OK
(19:10:50) sophi: charles is co-lead of the NLC category
(19:11:14) sophi: he is not co-lead of the FR nl project
(19:11:29) Thalion72: and FR-nl-project actually has a coLead
(19:11:38) sophi: so, I think I misunderstand what you said
(19:12:06) sophi: is that right?
(19:12:06) paveljanik: sophi: can fr project has second co-lead?
(19:12:39) sophi: yes, of course
(19:12:53) paveljanik: naah, I think +1 for Louis proposal is the right answer. I hate such workarounds...
(19:12:54) ***Thalion72 think, that the discussion is going in a completely wrong direction
(19:13:04) paveljanik: Thalion72: +1
(19:13:19) Thalion72: do we really try to find ways to get "our preffered" candidates into the council?
(19:13:21) ***sophi is lost and doesn't where it goes
(19:14:03) paveljanik: Thalion72: "prefered" is in quotes? ;-) Yes, Charles is my preferred candidate ;-))
(19:14:26) paveljanik: I do not want to discriminate Charles (as the current category co-lead) to be voted.
(19:14:33) paveljanik: I will certainly NOT vote for him
(19:14:56) jpmcc: If we are going to change the rules, then we could propose that an elected Head of the NL-C is de facto a CC member
(19:15:10) paveljanik: no
(19:15:17) paveljanik: he is eligible.
(19:15:45) jpmcc: paveljanik: yes, that's a better idea
(19:16:30) paveljanik: OK, we should move forward...
(19:16:31) paveljanik: :-(
(19:16:41) jpmcc: OK do we want to proceed now with elections on the current rules?
(19:16:51) CorNouws: jpmcc: Yes
(19:17:10) Thalion72: jpmcc: yes
(19:17:29) jpmcc: others +1 / -1 please?
(19:17:33) sophi: jpmcc: yes
(19:17:36) paveljanik: yes, definitely, now.
(19:17:52) mhu: yes
(19:17:52) stx12: yes
(19:18:34) jpmcc: Missing mhu & _Nesshof_ ??
(19:18:45) jpmcc: mhu: sorry
(19:18:51) ***stx12 misses only _Nesshof_
(19:18:57) ***mhu thinks I have already voted: yes
(19:19:16) _Nesshof_: yes
(19:19:36) jpmcc: OK. Two AIs then:
(19:20:09) jpmcc: * All: read LS-P's proposal again; debate on list; cometo next meeting ready to vote
(19:20:27) jpmcc: * LS-P: organise the elections asap
(19:20:53) jpmcc: Next item on the agenda: Trademark
(19:21:33) jpmcc: Does anyone want to talk to this item?
(19:21:53) Thalion72: I think, nobody but Louis can give an update on this
(19:22:07) CorNouws: Yes, to make a start with it, definitely - or did we have a start already?
(19:22:15) Thalion72: this is Louis' AI for a long time
(19:22:17) sophi: jpmcc: it's an old item from Louis to propose a trademark charter near the Mozilla one
(19:22:37) jpmcc: sophi: do you have a link to the proposal?
(19:22:43) CorNouws: Has nothing to do with attacking all kind of abuse?
(19:22:49) Thalion72: there is no proposal
(19:22:53) sophi: jpmcc: no, he didn't wrote it I think
(19:23:19) CorNouws: OK, pass it on to next meeting then
(19:23:21) Thalion72: CorNouws: we first need to define what is abuse and what is correct use
(19:23:26) jpmcc: CorNouws: I think we need to have a formal policy before we can accuse people of abusing it ...
(19:23:40) jpmcc: OK, another AI...
(19:23:46) CorNouws: My answer for eralier ;-)
(19:24:09) jpmcc: * LS-P: circulate a trandemark proposal for consideration on the list by the CC in time for th next meeting
(19:24:52) jpmcc: Next agenda item: "Update OOoCon2008". Who put this on the agenda?
(19:25:34) stx12: i didn't; but i would be interested anyway ;-)
(19:26:11) stx12: at least i don't know when/how we can take session proposals
(19:26:53) jpmcc: Quick update then: you will have seen the CfP has gone out. We have abandoned hope of using the AB as a route to getting money from sponsors so Peter will be contacting potential sponsors (including Microsoft) directly.
(19:27:05) _Nesshof_: people are also asking how to get funding to get to OOoCon
(19:28:52) jpmcc: _Nesshof_: speakers can submit a request when they submit their proposals. There is no decision about how we can extend the bursary scheme to others. The priority is to establish a budget, so we have some idea how much funding we can use.
(19:29:01) sophi: jpmcc: do we still have a CFP in two times ? one by the end of may (if I remember well) the other (I don't remember)
(19:29:13) jpmcc: sophi: yes :-(
(19:29:39) _Nesshof_: jpmcc: is that documented for the speakers somewhere ?
(19:29:41) sophi: jpmcc: do we get some proposal yet?
(19:30:26) jpmcc: _Nesshof_: Yes http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/cfp/index.html#bursary
(19:30:29) stx12: i was not aware that the form is in place:
(19:30:30) stx12: http://survey.services.openoffice.org/forms/public/survey.php?name=CfP2008
(19:31:19) jpmcc: stx12: yes, it has been there for a week or two.
(19:31:56) _Nesshof_: jpmcc: this link is quite vague on how to proceed
(19:32:34) jpmcc: _Nesshof_: OK, I will strengthen the wording.
(19:33:01) jpmcc: Is it worth another posting to announce@ ?
(19:33:27) paveljanik: yes
(19:33:30) CorNouws: jpmcc: yes
(19:33:36) jpmcc: OK, will do.
(19:34:03) jpmcc: stx12: Have we any news from Sun about sponsorship?
(19:34:22) stx12: jpmcc: i'm in contact with peter.
(19:34:30) jpmcc: stx12: Good, thanks
(19:34:58) jpmcc: The only other piece of news is that the team have come up with cool OOoCon logog including a cute panda ;-)
(19:35:16) jpmcc: logos, not logog ?
(19:35:46) jpmcc: Any other questions on OOoCon?
(19:36:13) Thalion72: no
(19:36:14) sophi: jpmcc: do we have proposals yet ?
(19:36:38) jpmcc: sophi: I'll check offline
(19:36:51) sophi: jpmcc: ok, thanks, no more questions :)
(19:37:02) jpmcc: Next agenda item: Community Growth Plan ("year plan") - CorNouws, I think this is yours?
(19:37:55) CorNouws: Louis wanted to preprae something first ...)
(19:38:03) CorNouws: so skip till next time, IMO
(19:38:19) jpmcc: Wait, we have another long email from him...
(19:38:53) jpmcc: The bit he would like us to consider tonight is: "Cor has been pushing us to come up with a community growth plan. I'd like to propose a group from CC including him, John, Stefan, Sophie or Pavel, and me (or a others, instead, though I think we need those members) to work on this. We can use the wikis, and the idea would be to examine where we are going as a community and were we want to go. "
(19:39:05) CorNouws: Can't read my mail now, > next meeting is better.
(19:39:41) Thalion72: jpmcc: in general +1 for the proposal of forming this group
(19:39:42) CorNouws: jpmcc: Thanks for quoting. SOunds reasonable to me.
(19:40:34) sophi: jpmcc: +1 for me too
(19:40:36) Thalion72: ... I hat a brief look at the mail (not read in detail) but I get the impression, that the ideas cover the work of some projects (e.g. education)
(19:40:57) Thalion72: what is not a real problem - but those projects should be involved in the plan ;)
(19:41:30) CorNouws: jpmcc: +1
(19:41:49) jpmcc: OK, the proposal is we have a team look at this and develop a proposal. Core members are Louis, me, Stefan, Sophie, Cor, plus any toher community members they choose to involve
(19:42:04) Thalion72: jpmcc: +1
(19:42:10) CorNouws: +1
(19:42:14) sophi: jpmcc: +1
(19:43:08) jpmcc: Votes from stx12 mhu _Nesshof_ paveljanik please...
(19:43:24) stx12: +1
(19:43:27) _Nesshof_: +1
(19:44:23) jpmcc: paveljanik please...
(19:44:28) paveljanik: +1
(19:44:39) jpmcc: mhu please...
(19:44:49) paveljanik: jpmcc: popping up a private window in the middle of +1 doesn't help ;-)
(19:45:18) jpmcc: paveljanik: "I hate IRC :-)"
(19:45:28) CorNouws: (C)
(19:46:12) jpmcc: OK, moving on. Next agenda / flame item: "Ask the AB to define clearly its role in OOo". Who put this on the agenda?
(19:46:24) sophi: me :)
(19:46:32) mh2 [n=matthias@nat/sun/x-8a6546623edd1a71] entered the room.
(19:46:33) paveljanik: We should ignore AB, not spend our time on it...
(19:47:14) Thalion72: paveljanik: interesting idea :)
(19:47:16) ***mh2 is back; connection broken.
(19:47:32) jpmcc: OK, I propose we ask LS-P to write formally to the chair of the AB asking them for their terms of reference
(19:47:40) ***mh2 was called mhu in former times :-(
(19:47:55) sophi: paveljanik: no, they have to statute if they are here or not and not pop up from time to time
(19:49:20) Thalion72: jpmcc: should LS-P write or rather the council?
(19:49:30) CorNouws: jpmcc: and people interested can have contact first on the wording
(19:49:45) paveljanik: +1 on any action item. We should not comment something that is outside our project...
(19:49:49) paveljanik: -1
(19:49:51) paveljanik: not +1 ;-)
(19:50:01) sophi: Thalion72: I think the CC
(19:50:33) CorNouws: paveljanik: IMO it is enough in the project to be of (some/little) concern
(19:50:40) jpmcc: paveljanik: we have appointed a representative of the CC on the AB so we are already involved...
(19:50:41) Thalion72: paveljanik: did the AB state that it is outside the project?
(19:51:03) paveljanik: Thalion72: did anyone state they are part of the project? Did CC?
(19:51:08) ***mh2 is asking himself when this meeting might end; need to get home sometime soon.
(19:51:24) jpmcc: mh2: real soon now
(19:51:40) mh2: jpmcc: thanks, appreciated.
(19:51:54) sophi: jpmcc: yes I agree, I can prepare something, but I need the CC aproval on the content and the wording ;)
(19:52:03) Thalion72: paveljanik: hmm .. I don't really know - I'll need to scan the archives
(19:52:28) CorNouws: sophi: pls do, right wording is more important than speed in this case
(19:52:31) Thalion72: sophi: +1
(19:52:50) jpmcc: I propose we action Sophie to draft a letter on the list so we can formally vote on it next meeting
(19:53:05) sophi: jpmcc: ok AI for me
(19:53:11) CorNouws: jpmcc: +1
(19:54:24) jpmcc: That's the last item on the agenda. Is there any other business urgent enough to keep mh2 on-line:-) ?
(19:54:52) jpmcc: Silence means no...
(19:54:58) mhu left the room (quit: Read error: 113 (No route to host)).
(19:55:06) jpmcc: ...going once...
(19:55:12) jpmcc: ...going twice...
(19:55:13) Thalion72: no other business ;)
(19:55:14) paveljanik: no ;-)
(19:55:28) paveljanik: ok, so again the result of the meeting is nothing.
(19:55:32) sophi: jpmcc: ok for me, my next item is to eat ;)
(19:55:38) jpmcc: ...going three times. Good night everybody and thanks for attending.
(19:55:44) mh2: okay, bye everyone, and good night.
(19:55:51) _Nesshof_: ok, by
(19:55:56) mh2 left the room.
(19:55:57) paveljanik: bye
(19:55:58) paveljanik left the room ("Leaving").
(19:56:02) sophi: bye all
(19:56:04) _Nesshof_ left the room.
(19:56:11) CorNouws: bye all, next time with good preparations (read and answer mail ALL) we will have 'results' :-)


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Significant works are underway to improve motorist safety on a strategically important commuter route in the southern Barossa.
A 2.4km stretch of Para Wirra Road between Humbug Scrub and Yettie Road at Williamstown will be sealed as part of the $500,000 upgrade of a recognised road safety black spot.
Barossa Council Mayor Bob Sloane described Para Wirra Road as an important southern Barossa connector to northern Adelaide.
"We know this road carries high traffic volumes, especially at peak commute times," he said.
"The safety of all road users is paramount, so we're pleased to see this project get underway to reduce the risks that come with unsealed roads.
"We recognise this upgrade will cause some disruption to motorists in the short term, but believe the benefits in terms of improved road safety will be far-reaching."
The project was made possible after Council successfully applied for Black Spot funding ($73,000) and Special Local Roads Funding ($345,000), with Council funding the balance.
Para Wirra Road will remain closed to the public until the end of May, however this timeline is subject to weather conditions which may push out project completion.
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