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The future of cooking from Eloma: the combi steamer GENIUS MT delights with its advanced MT Technology which is tailored to various requirements of the out-of-home market, e.g. in restaurants, canteen kitchens and the system catering. Thanks to the high resolution MultiTouch Display and the intuitive controls, it is possible to concentrate on what is important: just cooking! Innovative functions such as Last 20, Multi Cooking or Climatic® MT lend a hand.
Discover the GENIUS MT
The GENIUS MT is the perfect combi-steamer for every location. The latest technologies, intuitive operation and additional features allow you to concentrate on what's most important: cooking. This is according to our philosophy: "Simplicity at its best".
GENIUS MT – a safe and clean thing
Safety is a high priority for us – at all levels. The high material quality and our intensive quality controls ensure a safe and smooth operation. Our MT Technology guarantees maximum safety when using your Eloma combi-steamer. And finally our fully automatic cleaning programme autoclean® MT stands for absolute hygiene and safe handling.
Safety is part of our philosophy. It can be seen in every detail. For example in our security door locks or our seamless, hygienic cooking chamber.
- 7" MultiTouch Display (capacitive)
- Last® 20
- Multi Cooking
- Quick Set
- Quick Mode
- Language neutral operation
- autoclean® MT
- HACCP data protocolling and display
- Fan speed in three levels
- Eloma live steam system
- SPS®: Steam protection system
Technical Details
Simplify your cooking and baking thanks to MT Technology
Just slide, wipe or scroll – intuition is the key to operating your GENIUS MT with lightning speed precision
- High resolution 7″ colour monitor with real MultiTouch Technology
- A simple stroke of the finger simultaneously sets temperature and humidity to the exact degree and percentage. Climatic® MT makes it possible.
- The function Last 20 remembers the last 20 cooking processes – nothing is lost.
- Multi Connect makes it easy to interconnect your GENIUS MT: Manage your programmes and HACCP data using advanced communication interface such as USB or LAN.
- A touch with your finger puts all settings exactly where you want them to be thanks to Quick Set.
- System caterers will love Quick Mode. It allows rapid and standard handling in all outlets by means of specifically predetermined operating sequences.
- 9 cooking methods, 9 menu groups, low temperature and Delta T cooking
- 400 cooking and baking programmes, and favourites function
- Automatic logbook function, HACCP display showing all data at a glance, can be archived with PC and LAN interface.
- Various fan speeds
- Programmes can be adjusted without stopping the machine
- Automatic heating and cooling with fast cool down function
- Manual, precise steaming in baking mode
A sure thing. Simply select one programme or cooking method and the GENIUS MT determines all the accompanying programmes required, automatically. Particular benefits:
- Multiple selection for parallel operation, whether before or during the cooking process
- Intelligent time control, set start or end time as desired
- Summary of all meals which can be cooked together – with multiple independent timer display for each tray
- Cooking times with Eloma Multi Cooking can also be controlled using the core temperature: meat dishes that are perfectly cooked inside and out, the best cooking results without stress or time constraining.
- Each tray can be programmed individually when fitted with different equipment
- Permanent summary of the remaining cooking times for all dishes and trays
- Visual and acoustic alerts as soon as meals in each tray are ready
Live steam is generated by our patented heat recovery system and directly injected into the dispersion tube. This saves energy and creates live steam within seconds without preheating.
Key benefits:
- Perfectly saturated steam quality, precise to the milliliter
- Economical and ecological: greatly reduced cooking times, minimal use of materials, massively reduced energy and water consumption with the very best food quality
- Maximum hygiene thanks to elimination of the boiler and a steady supply of freshly generated steam
The ultimate in hygiene and safety – our unique, patented and fully automatic cleaning system for unsurpassed cleaning results while keeping consumption of water, cleaning and rinsing agents to a minimum.
- Your combi steamer takes care of everything on its own at the touch of a button.
- Liquid cleaning system coordinated with Eloma products and ready for use, for optimum cleaning results and the best possible surface protection
- Proven, unsurpassed cleaning results: requiring a minimal amount of time, power and water
- Extremely low cleaning costs thanks to precise measuring of the liquid cleaner
- Maximum safety protection, no direct contact with any cleaning chemicals
- The program can be started at any time without manual cooling or need to open the door
- Perfect cleaning results thanks to a rotary jet
- No more refilling or handling of cartridges or tabs
- Top hygiene standards for products and processes
The new GENIUS MT now features:
- Quick clean in 15 minutes
- Colour-coded indicator of care product quantities remaining
We recommend our Eloma MULTI-CLEAN products for the best cleaning results and long operating life.
Award-winning Eloma technology: good for the environment and for your wallet.
- A high-performance heat exchanger can save you up to 16% energy and up to 42% water
- Preheating the steaming water to up to 158°F using exhaust heat
- No additional costs for maintenance work
- We are currently the only manufacturer of combi steamers whose multi-eco system has won the Dr.-Georg-Triebe Innovation Prize in the ecology and energy efficiency categories
- MT Technology:
- MultiTouch-Display
- Climatic® MT
- Last® 20
- Quick Set
- Multi Cooking
- Quick Mode
- autoclean® MT in series
- 9 operation modes
- Programme spaces à 20 steps
- Favourites
- Steptronic®
- Multi-point core-temperature sensor
- Temperatures from 86°F to 572°F
- Humidity from 0% to 100%
- Timer function up to 24 hours
- Active-Temp
- Live steam system
- Multi-Eco-System
- Manual steaming
- SPS® – Steam Protection System
- E/2 – Energy safe
- Reduced fan speed
- Autoreverse fan wheel
- Clocked fan wheel
- Logbook for HACCP/LMHV data
- LAN and USB 2.0 interface
- Seamless, hygienic cooking chamber
- Quick release door lock for single-handed operation
- Integrated spray hose
- Multi-Eco-Hood
- External core-temperature sensor
- External sous-vide sensor
ANTONY SCHOLTMEYER | Chef, The Sukhothai; Bangkok
Cooking with the combi steamer has allowed us to get to know the many advantages of the Eloma live steam system. There's no difference in the steam saturation in the cooking chamber between an Eloma and a boiler.


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J.Crew's New Size Triple-Zero Jeans: Necessary or Insanity?
The company explains its latest super-small size development
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How skinny are your jeans? J.Crew customers are asking that very same question now that the retailer has introduced a size smaller than 0.
The just-launched size 000 fits women with a 23-in. waist, according to the company's size chart. It's the equivalent of an extra extra extra small.
Shoppers took to Twitter to make fun of the gimmick. "J.Crew knows that size 000 already exists as toddler 4T, right?" wrote Twitter user @sassycurmudgeon. And from user @juliesnark: "J.Crew now offers size 000 pants for Americans who want a new cool headband."
Others criticized the company for vanity sizing, the controversial (and pervasive) practice of assigning smaller sizes to clothes to essentially flatter someone into making a purchase. The idea is that if you actually wear a size 12, you're more likely to buy a dress if it's a size 8 because it makes you feel good about yourself. "J.Crew's vanity sizing has reached a whole new level of crazy," said a post on the fashion blog Racked. "What's next, negative numbers?"
But J. Crew denies that it's trying to boost egos — rather, it's looking to boost sales in its new stores in Asia. According to a company spokeswoman, the new size was introduced in May when J. Crew launched two stores in Hong Kong, and the 000 is only available there as well as on the website (where they also carry up to a size 20 and extended sizes in shoes and swim).
What do you think of this latest development? Thoughts on vanity sizing in general?
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Illinois Republican Rep. Joe Walsh is under fire for comments he made Thursday night in his final debate against Democrat Tammy Duckworth -- he said he opposes abortion "without exception," even when the life of the mother is at stake.
The trouble came when the Tea Partier doubled down on his position with the media afterward:
There's no such exception as life of the mother. And as far as health of the mother, same thing, with advances in science and technology, health of the mother has become a tool for abortions anytime under any reason.
The facts Walsh used to justify his position have been proven absolutely false. In fact, studies show that pregnancy-related deaths for women are on the rise.


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I've just finished playing Overrun, the new multiplayer mode in Epic and People Can Fly's Gears of War: Judgment. As a fan of both Gears of War 3's enhanced horde mode and vicious Beast Mode, Overrun gives me exactly what I've been hoping for: Namely, a versus mode that lets players alternate between playing as defending COG soldiers and the attacking Horde.
From what I saw and played, it's a hell of a lot of fun.
At a Microsoft event at E3, I played both sides of a match of Overrun. (The image up top is from Gears 3's Beast Mode). Overrun will feature 5-on-5 versus multiplayer, with a variety of objectives. The map I played featured the defending team trying to keep a the Locust forces from destroying a generator.
In a cool wrinkle, Overrun mode will have class-based gameplay. I played as a scout, which armed me with a sniper rifle and let me climb up to ledges to have a better vantage point. Another cool touch is that each class is a unique character from the story. The scout is a guy named Paduk, who I'm assuming is a new character in Judgment.
The other classes are: Baird is an engineer, which lets him build turrets and fortifications like in Gears 3's horde mode. Cole is a soldier, which lets him toss ammo crates, presumably for the other soldiers to use. Sofia is the medic, which the ability to heal other players; I didn't see the medic abilities in action.
The classes do change up the feel of the gameplay, though I only had a chance to really try out the scout a bit.
On the horde side, things work much like they do in Beast mode. You start out with lowly locust troops, then unlock better and better characters as you do better. There's a time limit like in Beast Mode as well, which keeps you constantly on the offensive.
The Berserker isn't in the game—a Microsoft representative told me that it presented too many balance issues, which makes sense. Corpsers were already pretty powerful, and in my time as Horde we wound up having a bit of a corpser party on the other team.
Overrun looks like a significant evolution for Gears' already supremely fun multiplayer. It's the versus mode that I've been hoping for since Horde mode debuted in Gears of War 2, and I'm really looking forward to getting to spend some more time with it.


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The term '''Java''' could refer to any of several things:
The term '''Java''' could refer to any of several things:
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The term Java could refer to any of several things:
- The general purpose object-oriented java programming language originally devised by Sun Microsystems with an emphasis on portability between platforms.
- A particular java virtual machine allowing you to run java applications. There are several of these provided by various vendors.
- A java applet running as a web-browser plug-in (which requires the installation of a particular kind of java virtual machine).
Java is not the same as javascript, a scripting language now called ECMAScript, which is generally used in web-pages to cause pop-up windows, flashing lights and other annoyances.
Java Panorama Tools
Some of the original Panorama Tools by Helmut Dersch are written in Java and require a java virtual machine to run:
- PTPicker, the original graphical front-end for selecting control points.
- PTEditor, a tool for extracting, editing and re-inserting rectilinear views from equirectangular images.
- PTCrypt, a tool for encrypting JPEG images to make them viewable by PTViewer only in their original web-page context.
Note that none of these tools ever had source-code released and are only available in JAR archive form, they are unlikely to have future bug-fixes or be developed further. You can run them with varying degrees of success on various platforms using Sun JRE, Microsoft JVM, GNU GJC, IBM J2ME etc..
If you are having memory problems running JAVA tools there is a tutorial called how to allocate enough RAM for PTEditor that you may find useful.
PTViewer Java applet
Also created by Helmut Dersch, PTViewer remains one of the highest quality applet viewers for equirectangular panoramas. PTViewer has available source-code, so it is still under active development. The appearance of panoramas viewed with PTViewer can be customised, extensions can add specialized functions and it is also possible to create a custom ptviewer jar file that contains every needed element.
There are some other java applets for viewing panoramas.
Browser plug-in issues
To use the PTViewer JAR applet in a web-page, the client web-browser needs to have a Java virtual machine available to run it.
Previously, this was almost universally the case, however Microsoft have stopped distributing their implementation with Internet Explorer (though many OEM sellers of Windows systems sell machines with Sun Java already installed) - So you can no longer guarantee that Java is installed.
Sun Java is a free download from Sun, the download is about 15 MegaBytes and the installation is straightforward even for inexperienced users.


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Premium Experience Packages at The Armory are THE best way to experience a concert in the Twin Cities.
Experience the highest profile artists in the world from the comfort of a wide variety of Balcony Box or Suite options that cater to groups of 2 to 200.
The Armory offers a full service reservations team that can assist with every aspect of your experience from private and efficient entry, to customizable menus, food options, top shelf and even hard-to-find liquors, organic/gluten free/vegan options, luxury transportation partners, hotel packages (At Armory exclusive discounted rates), and white glove service from experienced and highly trained staff - all at an unbeatable value.
Package pricing is ala carte where you have full control of your experience and can choose amenities or options as needed.
Please fill out an inquiry below and our reservation manager will contact you when pricing is available.
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Whether you're entertaining clients, rewarding employees or enjoying an evening with friends and family, the Penthouse Suite at The Armory provides exceptional privacy and service to groups of up to 40 guests. Enjoy a view from the top with a location on the fourth floor and overlooking the entire venue! Let our hospitality team assist in entertaining your group with style and affordable luxury.
The Generals Hall
The Generals Hall provides an immaculate atmosphere for one-of-a-kind corporate outings and social gatherings at the focal point and heart of the historic Minneapolis Armory. Experience an intimate night with incredible views of the show with up to 150 of your invited guests. Your group can enjoy customizable lounge seating arrangements in a 3,200 sq ft ballroom that speaks to the beauty and history of this unique building.
Lakers Suites
Located at the belly of the venue providing an eye-level view of the performance, these suites caters to parties of up to 12 - and include a walk-out terrace with booth seating as well as storage space for jackets and other personal items. These suites were designed with fans in mind with plenty of room to dance and party away from the crowd.
Club Box
Overlooking the Main Floor, our Club Box awaits you and your 7 invited guests. Want to be closer to the main event? Your Club Box will put you right on top of the action while providing a private atmosphere for you and your guests. Suite Attendants offer Food & Beverage service and your guest may still access the Club Level as well as the Main Floor as they wish!
Platform Booth
Smaller party coming to the show? Not a problem! Enjoy our Platform Booth which seats up to 4 guests. These elevated booths, located behind the Balcony Boxes, include an 85" TV for a live broadcast of the show. Some locations may have have a partially obstructed view due to the building's structural elements. Booth Seating and Storage Space for Jackets and other personal items is also available in this space. Suite Attendants offer Food & Beverage service and you may still access the Club Level as well as the Main Floor for select events!


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Recently, I found a record for a Plenzler marriage from Poznan sitting on my computer. I forgot how I got it or where it came from, not having written to the Poznan project to obtain it. So I asked a likely source, Judy, what it was. She forwarded to me awhile back and I promptly forgot about it. Can anyone really not get overloaded getting their ancestor's historical information? It seemed possible to me not too long ago. But Judy informed me that she sent it on to me because of the Plenzler connection. On this marriage register, there are two important records: one for a Niemier (one of Joseph Plenzler's sisters, Catherine, had married Jacob Niemier) and one for a Martinus Plenzler.
I took a stab at transcribing these marriage records. The language used for each was basically the same. (See records 18 and 20 here.) I'll place the transcription for #20 (Martinus and Catharine Jaskulanka) below. What this indicates is a record of Martinus Plenzler's first marriage. (See the post regarding a record located in 1851 for a second marriage here.)
The marriage for Martinus and Catherine Jaskunlanka is transcribed below with a very rough translation included:
Martinus Plenzler, juvenis cum
Martin Plenzler, an unmarried young man with
Catharina Janskunlanka, virgine
Catharina Janskunlanka, an unmarried maiden
Ambo de Pietrowo
Each from the town of Pietrowo
Interrogavi en ecclesia mutu.o
Come to the church to exchange vows
Et elaro consensu ab?? ii recepto per ven?? Vet?
And join together in the commitment of marriage
De presenti juata ratificata
And before those present ratify
Cum consensu parentum
With the consensus of their parents
Age of the groom: 26, age of the bride: 22.
Banns: published 17, 24, and 31 October
Witnesses: Szymanowski, Simon; Szymanowski, Michael, ??? Pankoski (?); Michael Jako~la.
I cannot determine an exact date of marriage from this scanned record. However, since banns (the intent of marriage announcement) were published as late as the 31st of October, it's reasonable to assume that the marriage took place the first week or two of November, 1841.
Given that this marriage took place in 1841 and Joseph Plenzler (my grandfather) was born in 1855, it is also reasonable to ponder a few possibilities:
- That Joseph and Martinus were not brothers. The age difference is too great. While it is theoretically possible, it's unlikely the two are brothers.
- That Martinus is likely an uncle to Joseph. (Joseph's father was also named Joseph).


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View your TD Credit Card balance
Here are 6 easy ways to find out the balance on your TD Credit Card:
1. Log in to EasyWeb. On the View Accounts page, find your TD credit card account listed under "Credit." Your Account balance is on the right. The Account Details link on the left will take you to the Account Activity page where you can choose a specific statement period.
If you're not already registered for EasyWeb Internet banking, you can register online.
2. On the TD app, simply select "My Accounts" from the Home Screen. You will be prompted to log in to the TD app. Once authenticated, find your TD credit card account listed under "Credit". Your Account balance is on the right.
3. Contact the TD Credit Card Customer Service Centre.
4. Call EasyLine telephone banking at 1-866-222-3456, available 24 hours a day.
5. Visit any TD Canada Trust branch.
6. Use any TD ATM. To access a TD ATM with your TD Credit Card you will need to obtain a PIN (by visiting any TD Canada Trust branch), or you can use your TD Canada Trust Access Card – just remember to add your TD Credit Card Account as an option on your Access Card (by visiting any TD Canada Trust branch).
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The Consumer Product Safety Commission estimated that almost 300 children under the age of 5 drown in swimming pools each year and thousands more are injured.
One of the organizations that knows how to protect our children from such accidents is NSF International.
NSF International helps protect you by certifying products worldwide and writing internationally-recognized standards for food, water and consumer goods. As an independent, not-for-profit, global public health and safety organization, NSF is committed to improving human health and safety worldwide.
Here are some safety tips for pool and spa owners from NSF International:
Small children require constant adult supervision around pools and spas. There is no substitute for the watchful eye of caring adults.
- Never use a pool or spa that has a broken or missing drain cover. If family or friends have pools that your children visit or you swim at a public pool, check for properly attached drain covers and instruct children to keep away from the drains.
- In addition to being correctly installed, drain covers and grates should meet current anti-entrapment standards set forth in the Pool and Spa Safety Act to help prevent body parts and hair from becoming trapped. Covers that meet these standards will display ANSI/APSP 16 or ANSI/ASME A112.19.8 on the cover's exterior. Download our Hazards of Pool & Spa Drain infographic for more information.
- Make sure you know if anyone using your pool is a non-swimmer, especially the children.
- Establish and enforce rules for pool and spa use. Don't allow kids to run or play games near the pool. Keep toys, particularly tricycles or wheeled toys, away from pools, as children playing with these could accidentally fall into the water.
- Install a certified barrier or pool alarm to help prevent unauthorized persons from entering the area surrounding your pool or spa. Wristband alarms are also available to alert parents if a child should accidentally fall into the water.
- Keep your pool and spa properly sanitized and maintained. Use pool treatment chemicals safely and always read and follow the manufacturer's instructions. Store chemicals in a cool, dry area out of the reach of children.
- Make sure that an emergency shut-off switch for the pump is installed nearby and that it is easily accessible. Everyone should know where these switches are located and how to use them.
- Check local building codes to ensure the fence surrounding your pool meets minimum type and height requirements. Gates leading to the pool area should have a self-closing and self-latching mechanism to prevent unauthorized entry.
Drain standing water from the surface of pool and spa covers, as small children can drown in even the smallest amount of water. Always remove covers completely before using a pool or spa.


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As the title says, is there any option to save the data in different table in wordpress.
I have around 10000+ data in my site in a different table. I have moved this table inside wordpress database and i have created custom post and now I want to show the data from my own table not from wp_posts.
Any ideas, suggestion or example.


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More mixed signals about a possible merger between Sprint Corp. and T-Mobile US Inc. surfaced in analysts' reports Wednesday.
On one front, T-Mobile may be facing greater pressure to agree to a deal. On another, regulators in Washington may have fired 'a shot across the bow' of the merger idea.
The pressure on T-Mobile comes from No. 2 wireless carrier AT&T Inc., according to analyst Adam Ilkowitz at Nomura. In a note to clients, Ilkowitz said an update from the big carrier shows fewer subscribers have been switching to other carriers since the end of March.
It's a sign, said Ilkowitz, that T-Mobile's successful campaign for new customers may be weakening.
AT&T has been a favorite target of upstart T-Mobile's push to lure customers to its network, in part because the companies use similar network technology. Ilkowitz said he expects No. 1 Verizon also is seeing fewer customer departures, which the industry calls churn.
This news, Ilkowitz said, 'underlines the rationale' for a Sprint and T-Mobile deal. Sprint has argued that the two companies, if allowed to merge, would become a larger and stronger rival to the two big carriers.
Ilkowitz said AT&T and Verizon have been protecting their customer counts by responding to the price cuts and other changes that have fueled T-Mobile's subscriber successes.
Meanwhile, T-Mobile's price cuts have cut into the amount of cash it takes in just as the four big players get ready to bid against each other for highly sought wireless spectrum to boost their networks.
Washington is set to auction the additional wireless spectrum early next year. These are the licensed airwaves that mobile phones, tablets and other devices use to stream video, download apps and perform the other features that make the devices popular.
Carriers have said the 600 megahertz spectrum in the upcoming auction is particularly attractive because it carries signals deeper into buildings and further before the signals need to be reinforced by another cell tower.
Here's where the idea of a merger between Sprint and T-Mobile may have hit a new snag, according to analyst Jennifer Fritzsche at Wells Fargo Securities.
Fritzsche pointed to rules that the Federal Communications Commission set for the spectrum auction. One rule sets aside part of the valued 600 megahertz spectrum and excludes the two biggest carriers from bidding. It essentially means Sprint and T-Mobile would be the top contenders for that reserved spectrum.
Fritzsche then dug out the fine print in paragraph 171 of the rules. The FCC's auction rules essentially assume there are four national carriers, she said in a note to clients.
'If significant changes in the marketplace structure occur or a proposed transaction is filed with the commission in the future affecting the top four nationwide providers and their spectrum holdings, we will revisit our decisions here regarding the reserved spectrum provisions for the 600 megahertz band that we adopt today,' Friztsche's note quoted the rules to say.
In her words: 'We believe this language is very purposeful and could signal the FCC's displeasure with the possibility of a Sprint/T-Mobile merger.'
Fritzsche's legal sources tell her that the FCC basically has told Sprint and T-Mobile that if they ask to merge they'll be cut out of the bidding on the reserved spectrum, just as AT&T and Verizon will be cut out.


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Oct-30-2009 DCA & HMFA Welcome Belmar to 'Live Where You Work' Homebuyer Program
DCA & HMFA Welcome Belmar to 'Live Where You Work' Homebuyer Program
BELMAR - Belmar Mayor Ken Pringle today joined representatives of the New Jersey Housing and Mortgage Finance Agency (HMFA) at Borough Hall, 601 Main Street, to announce that Belmar is the newest member of the Live Where You Work program. The borough is the 24th municipality to partner with the HMFA on this workforce housing initiative.
"Live Where You Work complements my administration's efforts to strengthen communities. The program promotes homeownership and makes it possible for people to live closer to their jobs," Governor Corzine said. "I commend Mayor Pringle and Belmar for their commitment to the residents of this borough and I encourage more municipalities to join the program."
The Live Where You Work program is a workforce housing initiative that provides low-interest, fixed rate mortgage loans to first-time homebuyers purchasing homes in towns where they are employed. Additional program benefits include down payment and closing cost assistance for the purchase of a home within Smart Growth areas and flexible underwriting criteria for the loan qualification process.
Homes must be located in a municipality that has become a Live Where You Work partner with HMFA, which is an affiliate of the DCA. The Live Where You Work initiative further enhances Governor Corzine's efforts to build sustainable communities that encourage greener environments, access to public transportation and affordable housing opportunities for residents.
"This is a program that makes so much sense in today's market and economy," said HMFA Executive Director Marge Della Vecchia. "Living close to work reduces commute times, saves households money, and helps people develop a closer connection to their community. Add to that an affordable and reliable mortgage and Live Where You Work is an attractive option."
As a result of Belmar's partnership with the HMFA, people working in the borough who are interested in buying a home in the community will be able to take advantage of Live Where You Work program incentives.
"The Borough of Belmar is excited to be part of the Live Where You Work program, which will make buying a home in Belmar more affordable for those who work here," Mayor Pringle said. "This program will also help our efforts to revitalize our downtown. We can't wait to get to work encouraging people to take advantage of it."
Live Where You Work is administered by the HMFA. Trenton, Jersey City, Woodbridge, Elizabeth, Atlantic City, Rahway, Morristown, Evesham, Neptune Township, Bayonne, Carteret, New Brunswick, Paterson, Glassboro, Orange, Keyport, Newark, Washington Township (Gloucester County), Edgewater Park, Cherry Hill, Plainfield, Old Bridge and Passaic are all taking part in the program.
Earlier this month, Live Where You Work received the 2009 President's Award for Innovation from the Council of State Community Development Agencies, a national association that supports state efforts in community development, affordable housing, local economic development and state-local relations. The award recognizes innovative activities, policies or programs that have been implemented at the state level and have demonstrated success in solving community needs.
To learn about how to get a Live Where You Work mortgage, please call 1-800-NJHOUSE. For more information about how municipalities can join Live Where You Work, please call 609-278-7478. Or, you can visit the Live Where You Work website at www.livewhereyouwork.nj.gov.


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It used to be that regional newspaper delivery was a necessity, and essential part of the fabric of society. But technology changes all that and the writing has been on the wall for quite some time.
Also related to Fairfax was an e-mail I received from the Australian Financial Review (AFR) stating that they will be no longer producing their monthly magazine "MIS Australia". Instead they are planning on integrating the essence of that content into a technology section within the AFR.
The whole situation makes me think about the increased importance of having technology representation on company boards to help them understand the impact of emerging technology and suggest out the business can react, if not benefit from the continual changes that it brings.
I read another Fairfax publication, BRW. By virtue of the fact that Readify has previously won BRW Fast 100 (2006, 2007), and BRW Best Places to Work (2010, 2011) I receive a copy of the magazine each week. I find the content very interesting but I often wonder why there isn't more technology related content. Maybe I should offer to write a column with the CTO perspective!


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MONDAY, Sept. 24 (HealthDay News) -- Many teen and young adult cancer survivors in the United States go without routine medical care because it's too expensive, a new study finds.
Medical care in the years after a cancer diagnosis is important for detecting any long-term health effects associated with cancer treatment, said Anne Kirchhoff, of the Huntsman Cancer Institute at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City, and her colleagues.
They looked at national survey responses from nearly 1,000 adults aged 20 to 39, who were diagnosed with cancer between the ages of 15 and 34. It had been at least five years since their diagnosis. The cancer survivors were compared with more than 67,000 young adults with no history of cancer.
The cancer survivors and those without cancer had similar rates of uninsurance (21 percent and 23 percent, respectively), but cancer survivors were 67 percent more likely to forgo routine medical care in the previous year because of costs.
Medical care cost barriers were especially high for cancer survivors aged 20 to 29 (44 percent vs. 16 percent of the control group), female cancer survivors (35 percent vs. 18 percent) and survivors who reported poorer health.
The study was published online Sept. 24 in the journal Cancer.
"The Affordable Care Act is an important step to ensuring that adolescent and young adult cancer survivors have health insurance coverage and improving their health care access," Kirchhoff said in a journal news release. "However, they need to be educated about the importance of regular health care to monitor for late effects."
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By Jason Miks
GPS digital producer Jason Miks sits down with renowned evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, author of the Selfish Gene and An Appetite for Wonder, to discuss readers' questions on religion, its role in society and whether children can be described as "Christian."
A number of readers noting your skepticism over religion's role in society ask whether an absence of religion would leave us without a moral compass?
The very idea that we get a moral compass from religion is horrible. Not only should we not get our moral compass from religion, as a matter of fact we don't. We shouldn't, because if you actually look at the bible or the Koran, and get your moral compass from there, it's horrible – stoning people to death, stoning people for breaking the Sabbath.
Now of course we don't do that anymore, but the reason we don't do it is that we pick out those verses of the bible that we like, and reject those verses we don't like. What criteria do we use to pick out the good ones and reject the bad ones? Non-biblical criteria, non-religious criteria. The same criteria as guide any modern person in their moral compass that has nothing to do with religion.
So the moral compass of any person is very much a part of the century or even the decade in which they happen to live, regardless of their religion. So we live in the early 21st century, and our moral compass in the early 21st century is quite different from 100 years ago, or 200 years ago. We are now much less racist than they were, much less sexist than they were. We are much kinder than non-human animals than they were – all sorts of respects in which we are labeled with a moral compass. So something has changed, and it certainly has nothing to do with religion.
You've been travelling to the States from the U.K. for a number of years. Have you noticed much of a change in the place of religion in the two countries over that time?
Notoriously, the United States is the most religious of the Western advanced nations. It's a bit mysterious why that is. In Britain, Christianity is dying. Islam, unfortunately, isn't. In Western Europe generally, Christianity is dying. Even in America, the figures show that religious adherence is being steadily reduced, and the people who now record themselves as having no religious affiliation is something like 20 percent. Many people don't recognize what a high figure it is, and so politicians here who feel they have to curry favor with religious lobbies should maybe take a look at those statistics and realize that not everyone in this country is religious.
You say it's a bit of a mystery why America is so much more religious than other advanced countries. Do you have any thoughts on why it might be? Tied to that question of disposition, several readers also wondered if there is a genetic predisposition toward faith?
There probably is, but I don't think that really explains why America is so different from Britain. The least implausible suggestion that I've heard is that Britain and Scandinavian countries, which are also very non-religious, have an established church, and that kind of makes religion boring. Whereas in America, there is constitutionally a bar against an established church, and that could be one reason why religion has become so popular – it has become big business, it has become free enterprise, rival churches vie with each other for congregations and especially tax free ties.
Some readers see you as very evangelical in your atheism. Do you feel it a duty, just as some Christians might to share the word of God, to spread an atheist point of view?
Duty is a funny word. But when you say evangelical, I like to think that I don't shout or shriek, but employ a quiet, sober voice of reason. And reason is on our side.
You've talked about feeling uncomfortable with the impact of religion on children. In fact, one reader asked whether you would prefer to see no under-18s at church. What's your take?
I certainly wouldn't wish to prohibit parents influencing their children. However, for the rest of the world, to label a child a Catholic child simply because its parents are Catholic, seems to me to be a form of child abuse. The child is too young to know.
You can see the absurdity of talking about a Catholic child of four when you think what it would be like if we talked about an existentialist child of four, or a logical positivist of four. In other words, we wouldn't accept the labeling of a child based the parents' belief, so why do we accept it when it's religion? Why does religion get a free pass when it comes to labeling children in this way?
Give up Richard Dawkins. Atheists spend too much time and energy fighting against the obvious Intelligent Designer believers call the Lord God Almighty, Who created all you see, Who supposedly doesn't exist...
No, how about you give up?. We are right. You are wrong. Why should we give up when we are right and you are wrong?
in case you're not trolling or being sarcastic, Correctlycenter, please enlighten us with the obvious evidence of this "intelligent designer".
...who place female humans excretory opening next to her easily-infected reproductive opening...who created fish that crawl into your urethra...who gives babies birth defects and horrific diseases...who created an unthinkably massive universe with hundreds of billions of galaxies, each with hundreds of billions of stars, yet created this one tiny, blue planet for his avatars to roam and doesn't want them to diddle themselves...
Yeah, he's a winner. I'd vote for him.
This is the last real fight your going to have, at least as an open minded individual. The fact that science explains things in a factual manner. Must seem scary to you, but I'm not asking for your opinion to rely on my existence. Now if would like to challenge science with established facts that disprove the current facts, I would be happy to entertain this endeavour. Now for what is unknown, is just that unknown. If that scares you and you need this creation of man to comfort you through this indiscribable feeling the rest of us call reality. Well that's ok, just don't insist I believe and we can make a great team.
Now that must be really scary.
The proof that morality doesn't come from religion is in how the atheists here are having to fend off people named "atheists are evil" and "die atheists". Such hatred is not moral. The christians here need to learn some respect.
but if you take away their hypocrisy, Colin, they'd have no weapon left to perpetuate their delusions.
And atheists are like saints, they're clean and never do wrong? You are either an hypocrites or you just don't read every blogs about religion. There is plenty of atheists attacking people and name calling with no reason at all. And what about atheists supporting people who with their deviant behavior are spreading A I D S and killing mass number of people. Just a few weeks ago one of them infected more than 300 by himself alone. Is this what you atheists are considering having good morals?
No, giving 300 people AIDS, is not moral. How about the pope saying the condoms cause AIDS? He's infected millions. Don't like everyone being painted by the worst individuals actions? I bet the guy spreading AIDS believed in God... so does the pope.
The people with their deviant behaviors who are spreading A I D S are godless and are among atheists and supported by atheists.
Will you just shut up and go away? Your screen name makes you irrelevant all on its own. Nobody takes you seriously.
When the aliens arrive and we inform them that they were created by our Iron Age God who visited the Middle East approximately 198,000 years after our species arose, and that they will burn in hell if they don't accept jesus into their heart...........well.....you figure out what comes next 🙂
sci-fi is the new religion.
How about wearing a tinfoil hat?
says the person who believes in a invisible old man in the sky. lol
how about you rising from dead like your myth jesus
Rising from the dead is something very hard to do. How about something more simple like just quit annoying people with your atheists views. We get it you know, we all know that you are godless and you believe that were coming down from monkeys. No need to force this down on us anymore, we got the message clearly.
wow. nice handle. "atheistsareevils" nothing says hate like judging one for their beliefs. Not very christian of you is it?
Ive met more kind hearted atheists and buddhists than any other group, and unfortunately ive met hypocritical sadistic christians (no not all are but i have met some and history is overflowing with them) Atheists are certainly more accepting of other groups, like oh I dont know how about gays, or jews.
I wonder if people that say Atheists are evil ever even met one.
The name i'm using and the comments i'm making are not directed toward atheists who are having good intentions. The comments i'm making are directed in a reflected way toward those crazy militant atheists who are painting a very bad picture of atheism. I have nothing against atheists who have a mature personality. But those who are a pain in the a$$ , it's a different story.
Christianity spawned the inquisition, the witch trials, the crusades, the KKK, many believe the nazis themselves, gay bashing, (and MANY MANY MANY MANY more evil in our past) what has atheism done on par to those evils
While i agree with you about the many heinous evils that religion has done, to answer your question- stalin, pol pot, Mao and more have done quite a bit as far as similiar atrocities go in the name of atheism.
Stalin Pol Pot and Mao did their thing because of politics not religion
What evil has atheism done? http://carm.org/religion-cause-war Check the statistics and see which is bloodier, religion or non religious wars....
Jim, yes. I know. That was my point. He asked who else besides religious fanatics had committed atrocities. I told him.
When the aliens arrive and we inform them that they were created by our Iron Age God who visited the Middle East approximately 198,000 years after our species arose, and that they will burn in hell if they don't accept jesus into their heart...........well.....you figure out what comes next 🙂
sci-fi is the new religion.
Posting under two different aliases atheist one? You got caught red handed.
If you religious people are so sure that god(s) exist, then there is no harm in letting us atheists believe what we want and stay cozy warm in the smug knowledge that we will roast in your medieval hell. But as far as public religion, there are 3-4 secular people for every religious person so let's keep it out of government and schools. I really don't want my kids being exposed to your religious babble as anything other than mythology. Right there with the easter bunny and tooth fairy.
I have no problem about you staying warm and cozy with your monkey ancestors and Dawkins comparing you with animals.. We only want you to stop invading every religious blogs on the internet to insult people for no reason. And please don't start telling me how frustrated because we are in 2013 and religions are still spread across the world. There are things in this world that are frustrating to me, but i don't cry and whine about it all the time. We are all people different from each others from many aspects, either it being religions, $exual preferences, food choices ect....You can't fight against the whole planet just because there are things that you don't like that others do like. It's very immature and childish.
Speaking like a true hypocrite there, AtheistsAreEvils. You have been the biggest whiner on this thread tonight. And you complain about atheists trolling on religious blogs? Have you seen some of the hateful comments religitards leave on science and reason pages, some run by Richard Dawkins himself?
and whether you like it or not, humans ARE animals and we share a common ancestor with apes (not monkeys). That's just scientific fact. You have complained about that repeatedly tonight, so I doubt you have truly reconciled with that.
No sir i'm not an hypocrites. Is is true that i'm on a blog that don't belongs to me. I just wanted to show you how it feels like when your militant atheists are coming to religious blogs to cause trouble. I have nothing against atheists that are looking forward a better world with good intentions and purposes. I have nothing against atheists that respect other people who have religion in their life. I am aware that there are militant activists on both side and are attacking each others. But i do believe that it is our job and duty for both atheists and religious people to separate ourselves from those militant activist from both sides. Only then, both atheists and religious people could cooperate together to bring this world to a higher and better level.
While Pol pot, Mao, and Stalin happened to be atheists, their genocides had nothing to do with athesim. This is the same kind of logic that leads people to think that metal and video games cause mass shootings. A person who does not believe in god who also happens to be crazy is not the same as a person who strictly does a terrible deed in the name of religion. I suggest going back to school and taking some kind of logic class before embarrassing yourself on the internet in the future.
My negative comments are for atheists like yourself. Read my other comments about atheism. I am aware that there are bad apples on both sides. But read my other comments on atheism and atheists with good intentions.
Is this your third aliases you're going by now lol Try again.
Reading through these posts, I see a lot of anger and hate from the religious folk on this board. I know you aren't all that way but the posts I'm seeing from you guys against atheists is somewhat surprising. How does this help your cause? Aren't you guys supposed to have the moral high ground? Aren't you certain you are saved and we are doomed? Shouldn't you be in complete peace? Why do you care what we don't believe? None of this will matter when you are in heaven right?
Because atheists come off very condescending on here.
*Some, not all.
So your religion's moral code teaches you to be hateful if you perceive someone is being condescending?
No way! The atheists on here have said many awesome things. I love the atheists writing on here. They are so thoughtful and courteous despite the fact that they have to put up with trolls like the people bashing them here.
"atheists come off as condescending"... so says someone who claims that there can be no morals without the religion that they are indoctrinated with.
That's my first post, so I don't believe I have claimed anything else
And please quote where I was being "hateful"
CD, I never claimed you were being hateful. You replied to a question ABOUT religious posters being angry and hateful and you DEFENDED their behavior.
Or was your use of "because" and the reply button not intended to indicate you were replying to biobraine's comment?
I too find the Bible confusing. It is confusing. However Dawkins is looking back at the Bible with his modern man point of view.The Bible is very much a book of the times it was written in.
The New Testament identifies a new deal with God: the Old Testament agreement is over. The New Deal is that we love each other. Unfortunately men did not adapt to this new deal quickly. Things have gotten much better though as Dawkins points out.
I am a religious person, but i am not going to churches or practice my belief among groups. It is a personal thing for me. I respect atheists or other religious people who are not crazy fanatics. I agree that there are things in the bible that are not worthy of doing just as i'm aware that there are atheists spoke person that also has parts of their philosophy that are not worth to be taken seriously. A religious fanatic can be a very dangerous person just as a fanatic atheists person.
That is why i keep saying that i feel it is our job and duty for both religious and atheists people to disconnect and separate ourselves from those fanatics on both sides. Without them we would be in a better position to cooperate and working together under a better position to bring this world to a higher level. Our differences in beliefs are not and should never a barrier, only our good intentions and purposes are needed. Respect from both sides are to be applied here. But i don't see a problem here with that, as long as we won't have fanatics on both sides to interfere and creates confusions with our works to make this world a better place to love in.
I meant " a better place to live in"
Firs of all, you have to be either a really naive person or simply an hypocrite one. I have seen more atheists attacking religious people on internet blogs than any other groups of people. And that's the truth.
I meant "First of all"
As an example, just look at your name. Pretty judgmental. Aren't you guys not supposed to judge?
Oh i do judge others just like you do. I don't pretend to be perfect in any ways and more intelligent than anyone else like you do. Do you have any more questions?
do you also mean "a hypocritical one"? I hope you are trolling....
Are you that stupid? I admitted to judging others and you are calling me an hypocrite?
you are illiterate
Is this the best you can do? Try again because so far you're weak.
like you AtheistareEvil
you're the one attacking the atheist. by the way I used to be a pastor
And i used to be Elvis Presley.
Your god is evil that is what is inspiring you to be on the attack against anybody who disagrees with your beliefs.
Do yourself a favor.....don't accuse other's of hate and then follow it up w/ nothing but condescending remarks towards them. All that does is prove that you have just as much hate for them as they do you. Hate is hate regardless of which direction it's facing.
There was nothing condescending in my remarks. Wouldn't a Christian agree with what I said?
PS, debating is not the same thing as hate.
I didn't see any hate in those comments. They were legitimate questions.
I think you're trying to tell that to "AtheistsAreEvils", am I right?
I don't speak for anyone else, that was my personal opinion.
OK CD, so you're saying that the reason YOU are angry and hateful towards atheists on this board is because you find some of them to be condescending?
. I only make points that there are valid and logical reasons to also believe and have faith, and that I get quite tired of hearing people that have faith of some sort are stupid and always back conservative policy. Neither of which are true. Otherwise I could care less. It's fun to debate and explain why I believe as I do, or ask why you believe as you do, but when it comes down to it- think what you want.
its crazy how much i agree with this guy
Actually, it's quite sane to agree with him.
We're confusing God and religion. One can believe in God and not partake in organized religion. This argument is as stupid as the supposed war between science and religion. The only gap is in ignorant people.
Yes the gap is ignorant people. But there are so many, the gap is gigantic.
Your group can't even serve this country because of your beliefs. The last time I watched C-SPAN I notice both house's open with a prayer. What are going to do stand outside until the prayer is over ? the you will not consider as a part of the country. o my GOD you want special considerations sorry this country don't work that way we are one nation under GOD.
Can't serve the country? Maybe you should read about atheists in the military...
Can't serve this country? I'm an Infantryman and have served since 1988. Still serving; still an atheist. I don't need to believe in a silly story to love my country. Religion is the nonsense that has sent me to war several times. Islam, christianity, whatever. It's all nonsense.
Nobody is asking for special considerations – Dawkins and other atheists are only suggesting that religion is outdated and not the best way (or even the most common way) for modern people to form a moral code. He very rightly points out the fact that even people who claim to be "religious" regularly pick and choose the parts of their religion that they like and discard those that they don't (I was raised Catholic – my mom called these types "Cafeteria Catholics").
Capitalizing GOD makes him real.
"we are one nation under GOD" That did not happen until the mid 20th century. History can be very enlightening.
How about YOU get out of MY country, trail boss.
god who? allah Boooom or jesus aka joseph smith lds? or pope from Vatican? or Jehovah? too many gods must be a mythology
Sam this new alias of yours still showing who you are.
Does atheism bring inner peace, joy, diection, meaning, good purpose in life, positive thinking, and a reason to live and a reason to die? Does atheism teaches love, mercy, altruism, discipline, commitment, and altruism? Answers to this question will determine whether I and many others will reject or accept atheism.
Atheists do none of the above.
You continue to disagree with everything anyone says but you never give any facts to back it up .I think you are a Troll
I am an atheist and I do all those things. In fact, my friends are getting a laugh from this comment of yours because those who know me know I fit for justice every day of my life. I've already stated this about 3 or 4 times to you. It never makes you shut up though. Are you incapable of shutting up? Do you like to hear yourself speak? Can you not get laid or something? Please go away.
'nuff said.
Sam, i can't believe after all the months that you still enjoy taking other people names to post stupid comments. You are giving atheism a bad name by your childish actions.
I meant "after all these months"
Yes. In the atheistic philosophy, working to better your own life and that of your fellow man is its own reward, rather than working to please an imaginary deity in the sky. Death is trickier, but I would suppose that the best way to explain it is that atheists accept that everyone dies, and therefore we should make the best use of our time on this planet that we can (rather than relying on Heaven to make up for everything).
There is no atheistic philosophy.
Since atheists are so like saints, then tell me why atheists are invading religious blogs on the internet and are insulting and attacking people who never did anything wrong to deserve such a thing. Don't come telling me that this never happened.
@donna: Perhaps that is true. I can only speak to what I personally have taken from atheism.
@AtheistsAreEvils: I'm sorry that atheists on the Internet have offended you. I just don't understand what that has to do with this discussion.
I responded to you because you painted atheists like they were saints. I proved you otherwise. Of course there are bad people on both side, religious and atheists. But i'm not talking about me being offended by atheists, i can take care of myself pretty good. But i was pointing at the fact that more and more atheists are attacking people on internet blogs who were having peaceful conversations until atheists showed up and started their BS. I'm questioning atheism a lot after seeing this going on and on, every single day. If this is not the way atheists are then maybe there are militant atheists among you, and you should separate yourselves from those militants, because they really give atheism a bad name.
@AtheistsAreEvils: My intent was not to paint atheists as "saints." In fact, my mother's side of the family are Ukrainian and escaped the famine there in the 30's (created by the Communists). I was just responding to the earlier poster's question about what the IDEALS of atheism are. In talking about ideals, it is necessary to describe philosophies that human behavior will not always match (I'm sure you're familiar with this from the religious side, as well). "donna" pointed out, quite correctly, that atheism in general does not have an ideology – it just means not believing in God. All I was saying is the way that I try to live. I am truly saddened and embarrassed by boorish behavior on the part of other atheists, and if I had any sort of power within the atheist community I would be happy to speak against it.
same like you attacking atheist. we don't want your salvation to live in heaven or be rewarded with 72 virgins. atheist like warm hot hell. its cozy down there.
I do apologize for my behavior that i had toward you. Now you are the kind of atheist i can sit and have a mature conversation with. I totally agree with you, there's not much i can add, you pretty much said what needed to be said about the subject. I'm now wondering if those bad impressions some atheists are giving of atheism would be coming from militant atheists. If this is the case then maybe atheists should be separating themselves from these militant atheists because they're actions does not describes the real good intentions about what atheism really means. Again my apologies.
@AtheistsAreEvils: I appreciate that. You seem like a reasonable individual too. Good luck.
B Guit,
Atheism is only one thing: a lack in belief in a deity. It's not supposed to teach you anything, it's not a set of beliefs.
You may as well be asking if you gain all of those things from believing that unicorns don't exist.
But atheists do get all of those things from a variety of sources (not the same for all atheists, because we don't share any set of beliefs). And much of it comes from our biology (which we all share). There is a great deal of evidence for altruism, compassion and empathy in non human animals, it's not our exclusive domain.
If the only way for you have those things in your life is through religion, go for it. Even if it's bogus. If it makes you feel better, if it gets you through the day in this crazy world, have at it.
Good post Donna,
I'd like to add "have at it" also except for a caveat. If that belief in some way harms, or ENABLES other to harm, then we have a problem.
ooo, I certainly agree with that.
Of course it does. How narrow minded to believe that only religion can provide fulfillment of these these subjective ideas.
Yes, all of the above
Aethism doesnt teach my children those things, I do! My kids and I are fine without mythology
Sure it does. The rationale is based not upon pleasing a deity but upon what makes life better for individual, family, and society with balance between short term and long term.
I don't guess it brings a reason to die but seldom does anyone choose death for a reason – it is simply when our body gives out and I hope most of us will be too tired to care.
It's difficult to understand why so many seem to assume that only a deity can make us care about the things you mention. There is plenty of reason to care about them – deity or not.
lok around and you will see the answer. be smart.
I am atheist and I actually think you are correct, theism gives better answers to these things. Problem is, that all does not make theism correct. The pairs of all animals species living in Noah's Ark are still extremely improbable event, no matter how much peace of mind your theism can offer you.
Absolutely! Instead of God, I rely on reason, philosophy, an internal code of ethics, my sense of conscience, and atheism to me is a gift. I know I have one life; then I'm in the ground. Everything counts. There are no do-overs. There is just now. Now is everything!
Your question is a variation of "Without God, can an Atheist be moral?". Yes, Atheists can be good without God.
Atheism is freedom from the chains of religion.We do what we do based on sane choices,and an awareness of cause and effect.We love our spouces,our children,and do not percieve women as beneath the male but as equals.We obey the laws of our country,and when its time to die we die without fear of some higher being passing judgment on us.I really think we should all read the bible and judge for ourselves wether or not the god in that book is real or fit for worship,I did thats why im an atheist.
Many people judge the religion of Islam without even knowing what it's actually about. I wish everyone would actually go into a Muslim household and see how good Muslims actually are...
What does visiting a Muslims household have to do with negating their crazy idea that I go to hell?
The koran demends the killing of the unbelievers where is the good in that?
you are probabbly taking about the false religion or church as a moral compass, of course people should not adhere to false prophets or false teachings or false religion, right, false preachers of course false religion or church, but if we talk about the true church or true religion, we are talking about the right moral compass, the correct set of law, the right principle in life, which is for the good of mankind
So which one is the TRUE church? Let me guess – yours!
I'm a Christian, everyone chill out. Believe what you want to believe but don't bash and force your beliefs on someone else. This applies to Christians, atheists, Muslims, or whatever you believe in.
Don't stifle good discussions. If you have a problem, address the comment directly by using "reply"
don't bash and force your beliefs sounds like Christian or muslim.in christiany if you say something against it your heretic or get excommunicated while in muslin death to all non-believers.
Religion is not a prerequisite for morality. Atheists do not force their non-belief on anyone. They do what is right and good for the sake of doing what is right and good. Theists, on the other hand, only do good because they believe their invisible sky fairy will torture them for eternity if they don't. Religious people are the epitome of hypocrisy and contradiction.
Brian is this your first day on the internet? Or are you just playing the hypocritical card? Atheists are constantly on a daily purpose searching every single internet blogs to go on to attack religious people. What will you say next? You will deny this?
I meant "purposely searching"
I would venture that if convincing evidence of a god existed, much of what you say you see would disappear.
Religion is the one trying to change what is taught in schools to include their religious dogma. Religion wants to do away with stem cell research. religious people bang on my door with their bible .Get back in your church with your Dogma and quit trying to force it on everyone else and we will be happy to leave you alone
You are generalizing, not every religion will bang at your door bothering you with their bible. Don't blame the whole planet because you are not satisfied with the way the world is. Instead of trying to change the world from one day to the next one, try with yourself first. Only then, you will obtain better results.
It's amazing that your original post and this latest post were written by the same person!
atheistsAreevils is this your first day on the internet? Or are you just playing the hypocritical card? Atheists are constantly on a daily purpose searching every single internet blogs to go on to attack religious people. What will you say next? You will deny this/
You are a disgrace to your fellow atheists. I hope other atheists " those who are not the crazy militant ones" will reject you. You are not a good example and you are destroying what your fellow atheists with the best intentions are trying to create and what they could bring to this society.
You say that atheists scour the Internet looking for religious blogs to troll. We don't really have to look far. There are plenty of comments from religious people on secular blogs that rustle our jimmies enough to get us replying. This is a legitimate mainstream news site and you're here defending your belief. You need to understand that people disagreeing with your belief system is not an attack on you. Dr. Dawkins is just saying that we can be good people and good citizens without religion to provide us moral direction. Ask yourself if the fear of damnation were suddenly removed would your morals suddenly change as well? Would you become evil without the fear of going to hell? Would you become a killer or a rapist? I think you know you would not.
Read my other comments about the subject.
Yes. I believe in doing good and being kind because I feel that is the right thing to do. Not because I fear eternity in flames. I will not be bullied by religion into doing things out of fear. There is just this one life we have, and then we return to the earth from which we came. If God was presented without heaven or hell, it might make some more sense to me, but to think that after life is when things get good is just messed up to me.
You lied if you served because in boot camp everyone that didn't go to church wasn't there when we return form church. So you just told of yourself, you when to church. You can hide now because we all know GOD loves a Marines in the sixty's the D.I would have ate you a live You may cry your in now day's but back you are telling one of them thing. You know what I mean.
That was the most poorly constructed statement I have ever heard. What is this guy even trying to say?
Who knows? He may have been suffering from dementia.
I was in basic training at fort dix NJ in 1961 I can not remember going to church while in Basic training, AIT, or Jump School at Fort Benning if they made you go to church it was because of your fear
Satan is having a field day winning many in the last days..Walk by Faith not by sight.. Some people just don't understand the Bible..Even the Bible specks of all these things in the last days...Every one has a will of his or her own so let it be..
What's you point anyway?
False: satan isn't real.
If i had a choice to chose between Dawkins and his comparison of people with animals, and the curious accuracy and similarities of those predictions of the last days. Then i guess i would chose the predictions. There are more similarities in those predictions that describes the world today than Dawkins theory about us coming down from monkeys.
You are still here? You haven't figured out we don't take you seriously? Crazzzyyy..
Wow, Can't take you seriously anymore.
I think this person is a Poe Just stop feeding him and maybe he will go away
okay you didn't came from monkeys you came from virgin mary. happy now
You spelled Santa wrong.
do you really understand the bible? if you do then tell me why are there so many religious sect USING THE SAME BIBLE BUT DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS. is one plus one equals two. simple arithmetic. don't say bible word are complex then you really don't understand bible at all if complex cause so many interpretations. the only time one plus one equal one zero is in binary which is well understood by all mathematicians.
Satan knows the Bible better than anyone who are you listening to..
I think it's really ridiculous you feel you are living in the end times. This has been the thought of Christians since Jesus supposedly died for their sins, but no- it's going to happen in YOUR generation. I think you are being very self involved in your feeling that somehow this amazing thing is going to happen and you'll be present. Oh, and only people like you with the same beliefs will be included.
I could never be that self-involved.
because religion is mind control. control, control and more mind control. they are good though
Every Time is the End time. I am one of the Forsaken, a fallen angel, so I know. There is a personal Revelations for every man on his Death. Only a chosen few know their fate in Hell in advance.
Jesus said that heaven and Earth would pass away within the lifetime of those living when he was. That is why early christians sold their belongings and lived together, kind of like survivalists today. When it didn't happen they had to reinterpret what Jesus said or ignore it. Read your Bible. Also read the two separate creation stories in Genesis. Things did not happen in the same order. That's because there were separate schools of thought in the Hebrew religious community who are represented throughout was Christians call the Old Testament. They can't both be true, but the can both be mythology. This is only a tiny tip of the iceberg of knowledge that they do not teach in Sunday School. Fortunately you can find much on the Internet if you try. I am talking about serious scholarship, not rants and insults by trolls. I used to be a deacon, so I respect people of faith. I just find most are ignorant of the facts.
Does atheism bring inner peace, joy, direction, meaning, good purpose, positive outlook, and a reason to live and a reason to die? Does atheism give emphasis to love, justice, peace, mercy, altruism, discipline, integrity, and commitment to promises? Answers to these questions will determine whether I, my classmates, family members, and many in my community will accept or reject atheism.
Atheism is the lack of belief in a god. Your acceptance or rejection of it should solely be based on the evidence you find for a god, not on how religion makes you feel.
Oh absolutely! I rant about justice and love all the time. Lol. I wish there was more of it in the world.
Great post your thoughts are the same thoughts that most Atheists have
You just posted the same thing 20 minutes ago...
to b guit
you, your classmates and even you community should look around you. what kind of people are around you. from politicians to the lowest rank of work. you will find most of them are so called god believers. is politicians used the god word to get elected. to the lowest worker, isn't it nice to have religion to look good on resume or just to be in. do you really think these people seriously believe in god. you weren't born last nigh were you?
Atheists have not convinced me to be an atheist. Most of them, at least on line, are rude, liars, negative thinkers, give distorted information without proper evidence and statistics, and seem to be simply propagandists of their faith of unbelief. So far I have not met or read about an atheist I can admire. There is no atheist I have encountered in person, online, in electronic media, and books whom I can consider a hero. Sometimes atheists would say such and such persons are atheists but after some research I found out they are Christians, like the case of Bill and Melinda Gates.
B. Guilt, Put all of that aside and stick with the point. Is there or isn't there a god. It has nothing to do with what group of people irks you today. It is a statement of fact.
So what makes you believe in a god? I haven't seen any evidence yet for one, so I can't bring myself to say I believe.
It's as simple as that.
You actually got some very nice, honest replies from people, which you categorically labeled as negative and dismissed. You weren't looking for people's honest opinions about personal sources of morality, you were setting up a platform to explain why you don't like atheists.
I do those things for myself.
Atheism can most definitely be a moral compass, just a really lousy one.
False. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
No Do a little research and you will find the higher the percent of Atheists in a country the more moral they are and the reverse is true the more religious the less moral
your right. just like god believers.
Please compare moral of the American from 100 years ago when religion still part of the life. Compare it to today when almost no religion in USA. How many people who has home alarm, locked door, etc
Morals are a product of their times and always have been. I'm sure if you look a little harder (and maybe a little longer ago) you will say "wow, how could that have been acceptable then. Good thing our morals have advanced!".
Almost no religion in the U.S..? 70% of the country still identifies with some sort of religion, and still predominantly Christian ones, at that. Those people might not be practicing, or even close to it, but they certainly aren't leaving religion behind.
just to be identified with religion cuz their parents belong to it. because those people are brain washed by their parent about religion. it came from you some are not practicing religion. and in religion you need to be faithful. so if you don't practice religion then identified your self with religion, isn't that mockery of their religion or do you prefer a straight up, no non-sense non believer.
Here is why Dawkins is right to say politicians should do more to appeal to atheists. If there was a candidate that appealed to me as an atheist, I would very likely vote for them, unless their politics were messed up otherwise. I hope some politicians realize just how easy it would be to garner some more votes, if they simply represented us better.
and politician should court the atheist if they want to add count to their voters as long as not shoving religion to the atheists.
The way I see it is that earth is like an ant farm to someone else out there...... It amazes me that a supreme being would want to be worshipped and loved for such evil things he's made us all go through sometimes. I was BORN Catholic, but that religion was too much about money.......and then I realized they were all about the same thing...money.....then I realized that there were more churches than grocery stores....... then I heard George Carlin's take on religion....and I think he's right about Joe Pesci. Then I'm seeing too many religious fanatics who look like fools protesting at funerals and killing nonbelievers and wanting to hit on the 7 virgins....it's just all too crazy and we act like sheep with no brains.
and don't forget religion is mind control like you said give money (tidings). if god is so powerful why does his religion need money. just say the word and whatever religion needs should magically appear like what they say in the bible and god created the sun. its just pop up.
So they want special recognition and status? Isn't that what atheists typically despise about religion?
"So they want special recognition and status?"
– Recognition – yes. Special status - no.
"Isn't that what atheists typically despise about religion?"
– Recognition - No. Special Status - Yes!
atheist don't want recognition or status. we are just debunking your false belief in so called god. its because you god believers are forcing there is god but cannot prove its existence.
To Christians : Because you are not Hot (Real Christians that obey God) nor cold (unbelievers or atheists) I will spit you out of my mouth...There is a lot of hypocrisy among christians, sadly.....
that's true. let see hitler Christian, so as napoleon Bonaparte, so was Mussolini, so was Winston Churchill so was FDR so was bin laden, so was saddam etc. they all have one thing in common. they all believe in so called god. now those people that I mentioned were the ones that caused all these terrible war. stalin is dragged into these wars because they attacked his country. just remember who are those leaders that caused millions of death.
There is a middle ground of spiritually driven people that believe in tarot, meditation, yoga, horoscopes. There are people who believe in god but don't want to align with any monotheistic religion. There are those who believe god exists, but not to have a personal relationship with. A lot of ground between complete atheists and die hard Christianity there.
Actually, when it comes to the question of belief, there is no middle ground. For any given belief, you either believe or you do not. It isn't a question of logically proving it's true or false. Either you believe or you don't. Now if you truly, truly believe the Catholic teaching that there is eternal damnation and hellfire for unforgiven "Ten Commandment" sins, there is no way a Catholic would EVER commit any of them. You wouldn't even steal a pack of gum, because then if you died before having a chance to confess and be absolved, you would BURN IN HELL! Having being inundated with Catholic teaching for the first 20 years of my life, I now refuse to believe in a god so cruel. Why would an all-powerful being bother with such petty mind-game manipulations?
Yeah actually, there is a middle ground. I just mentioned them. You believe in crystals, tarot, meditation or whatever. You believe in a god but not in religion. You don't believe in a monotheistic god but others. You are Buddhist. There are many roads to take besides just atheist or chrisitan.
I worship the lint between my toes.
good for you. so your a worshipper now?
"we pick out those verses of the bible that we like, and reject those verses we don't like."
An absolute truth shown by every Christian denomination in existence.
There are militant fanatics on both sides. That's why i feel for both atheist and religious people who are working for a better world with good purposes to distance and separates ourselves from fanatic militants on both sides. If we both can get rid of those people, then i'm sure we can respect each others and cooperate together to make this world a better place to live.
the golden rule is the basis of all morals and is human instinct. we follow it with every decision we make. religion simply added specifics and a sky daddy to make sure you make the right decision. choice is what makes the difference. we can choose to be good or bad. Nothing can stop that... NOTHING... but the consequences can dissuade the ignorant from making bad decisions. God watching is a good way to do that for most people but eventually society will enforce it in total. If you can't get away with anything... you still will do bad things ... but they will be significantly reduced. Religion worked in the old days for the most part and the powerful used it to keep them powerful. we don't need it to guide us ... unless you are an ignorant fool and don't understand the golden rule... like religious people
"religion simply added specifics and a sky daddy to make sure you make the right decision."
nice rhetoric. atheist had been practicing the golden rule you talking about for years. and we don't need bible to tell to do that. as well as we don't need to be so called god believers
its true... and deep down in a place you are afraid to look... you know it... you know when you die you won't exist... no heaven no hell.. just nothing .. like before you were born... along with every other human since the beginning of time.. its sad and hurts... but the truth is painful...
Kenny, i honestly respect your belief, it is your right to believe whatever you want to, i have no right to interfere with that. Will you respect mine if i tell you that i believe otherwise?
AtheistsAreEvils... i don't care what anyone believes... its when you make me follow rules based on your beliefs that bother me. If your rules aren't based in the golden one... they don't get to become law... if we can agree on that the world will be a better place...
I'm pretty sure that "we are much kinder than non human animals" was meant to read "kinder to". Should be changed.
I doubt if Mr. Dawkins counts for much in the Universal scheme of things... But to argue that we don't need or get a 'moral compass' from religion is rediculous.
On the other hand... without the moral compass of Judeo/Christian religion... it would be perfectly acceptable to kill babies... beat up on people that disagree with you... steal... lie... cheat... murder you neighbor...
Sounds like Mr. Dawkins, and his cnn host... are really fine people.
So you think that without your religion you would want to hurt people?
The fact that religious people lie, kill and steal, kinda negates your whole argument.
And you're incredibly naive if you think the judeo-christians were the first to oppose those behaviors, what an absurd claim to make.
Please don't call yourself a history buff, you clearly know nothing about human history.
I see some interesting, weird, silly, and outrageous comments here. I suspect that they types of comments are seen in blogs, articles, and other forms of electronic information. Here's some facts for anyone interested in being "enlightened":
1) The Holy Bible, Quran, Torah, etc. were written in the hand of men.
2) These men were influenced by a voice (the voice of God, Abraham, Mohammed, Buddha, what-have-you)
3) People have taken the words in these books literally, figuratively, applied their own meaning
4) These various viewpoints have led to many different forms of religion all over the world
Now it gets interesting:
5) Each and every holy book, representative of a different religion, have the same information, albeit with names, locations, time frames, subtly changed, but nonetheless, the same information
6) These books, teachings, speeches, what-have-you were given to the people at a time when they lived in fear, even to help administer that fear unto the people
7) This is the 21st century: What have we to fear today? And can that fear be allayed by a book, a teaching, faith?
I was raised Catholic, haven't been inside a church since 1998. I do not believe in God, a god, or many gods. What I do believe in is the power of man, the humility and humanity of man, the intelligence and foresight of man. That is my faith. Why?
It is not something to which I must blindly believe in. I can see man, I can touch man, I can witness his good (and his bad) deeds. I can witness natural disasters and humanitarian aid; world wars and trade agreements; a pickpocket and a good Samaritan. Faith in you, faith in me, faith in your family, friends, and neighbors. Seriously, I fail to see why you would need anything more than that.
At the end of the day, religion was developed as a form of control, using humanity's greatest weakness, fear, to gain that control. I personally choose not to live in fear and I ask: Why do you choose to live in fear?
Holy Bible
Babylonian history
Sumarian history
Life experiences
If you would have any kind of respect for others, you would have posted what you believed in, but without including your negative views about others who are believing otherwise. I agree with you that in every religion there are parts on the bible, quran that are mostly to brainwash people. But that doesn't only applies to religions. There are also those fanatics leaders among atheism, and cults that are brainwashing people. It is up to us that can see much clearer to avoid those people and those bad parts of religious books that are only there to cause problems. There's good in every religions, and atheism and others, and there also bad parts in all of those as well. Knowing all these differences is a good starting point for creating a better world and having a better harmony among people with different cultures and religions and non religious people.