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National Security
Cheney: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did'
By John Amick
Former Vice President Dick Cheney reiterated his claim today that enhanced interrogation techniques used on terrorism suspects in U.S. custody in the years after September 11, 2001, worked in revealing terror plots despite contrary sentiment from a CIA investigator who probed detainee interrogations.
Cheney's statements come six days after the release of a 2004 CIA Inspector General report (pdf) that documents a litany of interrogation tactics used on detainees, including waterboarding, "walling," face-slapping and at least one mock execution. Cheney's views, though, contradict those of former CIA inspector general John Helgerson, who wrote in the report that there is no proof that such techniques were responsible for reliable information that helped in foiling terror plans.
"I'm very proud of what we did in terms of defending the nation for the last eight years successfully," Cheney said of the Bush administration's post-9/11 terror strategy on "Fox News Sunday."
Cheney says he stands behind the interrogation tactics and is convinced the use of those practices were "directly responsible for keeping America safe for eight years." His support for the Bush administration's approval of techniques that have been halted by the Obama administration signified his dissatisfaction with President Obama and most Democrats in Congress, who Cheney says have made Americans less safe through the enaction of their own terror policy.
"It doesn't appear to be a serious move" to quell terrorism, Cheney said of Attorney General Eric Holder's announcement Monday of a preliminary review of Bush-era techniques. "It's a direct slap at the CIA."
The move to wade into a review, which is likely to be narrow in scope and focus on the intelligence community, falls on President Obama's shoulders, not Holder's, Cheney said.
"I wasn't a fan when he was elected ... my view hasn't changed," Cheney said of Obama.
Not only does Cheney believe the changes in tactics are bad policy, he said the review, if it travels up the chain of command, will set a dangerous precedent for future administrations to seek prosecutions for opinions a previous administration has cleared through the Department of Justice.
"I guess the other thing that offends the hell out of me, frankly ... is we had a track record now of eight years of defending the nation against any further mass casualty attacks from Al Qaida," Cheney said. "The approach of the Obama administration should be to come to those people who were involved in that policy and say, 'How did you do it? What were the keys to keeping this country safe over that period of time?'"
Cheney characterized the "partisan" tone of Washington as partly responsible for the "political" move to begin the preliminary review.
Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said the opposite was true, that the Obama Justice Department, led by Holder, is doing the correct thing to uphold the rule of law and actually going against the White House's wishes.
"I think there is a little bit of a tension between the White House itself and the lawyers in the Justice Department as they see the law and as what their obligation is," Kerry said on ABC's "This Week." "And in a sense, that's good. That's appropriate, because it shows that we have an attorney general who is not pursuing a political agenda, but who is doing what he believes the law requires him to do."
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), also on "This Week," made the argument that since the Bush administration decided to forego such reviews and investigations into interrogation techniques and possible abuses, the issue is settled, and the Obama administration should not go forward with the review.
"I really question, after all of the investigations were done, some prosecutions that were waged, and most of this material was decided not to go forward, to now go forward with this, I really question whether the attorney general is doing what is right," Hatch said.
In addition to the CIA report and enhanced interrogation techniques, Cheney answered questions on his relationship with President Bush at the end of their time in office. He insists reports that he is upset with Bush for a series of moves in the administration's second term are wrong.
"To say I was disappointed in the president (Bush)" is false, Cheney said.
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Cheney believes in violating US-Federal Laws with impunity for himself and G. W. Bush. Cheney apparently thinks he is not subject to Federal Laws such as our Anti-Torture Laws.
The only way for voters to stop this kind of lawless behavior is to raise hell until all of those that conspired to torture are prosecuted to the full extent of Federal Law.
Start by fighting for Prosecution of the Torturers and then expand the effort to include all their other crimes, including lying to Congress about WMD to enable their illegal invasion of Iraq.
If they aren't actively calling for enforcement of our Federal Torture Laws,
They DO Support Torture.
both a Commission of Inquiry
and prosecution for all those leaders
in Bush's Administration that
Conspired to Torture at ANGRYVOTERS.ORG
Only Prosecution Stops Torture!
Only Prosecution Stops Abuse of Power and
of Our Constitution and Rule Of Law
Only Prosecution Stops Abuse of Power and
of Our Constitution and Rule Of Law
and gives Voters their power back.
The only alternative is un-electing them.
Posted by: johnhkennedy | September 5, 2009 4:03 PM
You are right, k8iedid. Bush and Cheney protected us from terrorists. Obama helps and protects terrorists and U.S. enemies while endangering is.
Obama's destructive actions and people who don't see the grave danger they are in are the Orwellian future that Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov warned us about.
In 1985, Bezmenov told us that our enemies were working hard at brainwashing us (dumbing us down) and would succeed if we did not defend our principles: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1
The dumbed down are obviously unable to understand that Obamacare will further contribute to "the American descent into Marxism," which "is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple…" http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-american_capitalism-0
Fortunately, as we can see in the town halls, most Americans have not been dumbed down and they will do whatever necessary to defend themselves, their children and grandchildren from Obama and the abomination of socialism/communism.
Posted by: AntonioSosa | September 1, 2009 5:55 PM
Former Vice President Dick Cheney is right. Enhanced interrogation techniques saved thousands of lives and we are grateful.
Obama and his accomplices, on the other hand, are bent on helping terrorist and U.S. enemies while endangering Americans.
It was to be expected from Obama. As his parents, relatives, friends and mentors, Obama is a Marxist who hates the U.S.
As our enemy, Obama is endagering while destroying the economy and he's enslaving is through power grabs like Obamacare and Cap and Trade.
Obama is working much faster than Hugo Chavez at destroying the economy and enslaving us. No wonder the Russians are gloating: "The American descent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple…" http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-american_capitalism-0
Posted by: AntonioSosa | September 1, 2009 5:47 PM
Cheney and Hatch might take a step back and consider the idea of who exactly is in charge of the leadership of the country. Cheney's term is up and over with, Hatch is still with the republican party vote.
Anything that was done in the Bush administration has question wrote all over it, clear down to the first election itself.
Cheney tries to reflect the blame back to Obama, this might be his tecnique on reflecting some of the blame from him to Bush. Cheney knows his legacy is at stake and the truth could come out. A lifetime of dirty politics.
You could never trust a republican to investigate a republican. Partisan, vertically fair and balanced news along with attack, right wing broadcasting should tell anyone that. These right wing attack shows can be found on your radio dial any time of the day or night. Count how many different ones you can find.
Communism most powerful weapon during the cold war was propaganda. Gingrich and company imported it into the republican party. They have spoken no truth sense.
Posted by: kimkimminni1 | August 31, 2009 6:13 PM
To the person who used "liberal" like it was a dirty word: I'm proud to be a liberal; just as you surely must be proud to be a conservative. Unlike you, I have the decency to respect your political perspective.
For a lot of years I've noticed that conservatives/Republicans tend to use snide and underhanded means to snipe at the other side. I've seen anonymous and mean-spirited antiDemocratic "information" everywhere from thumbtacked to the break room wall to making the rounds on the internet. It's an ugly way to express disagreement.It's much like school children passing ugly notes in class or internet bullying without the saving grace of being real, incomplete children. It indicates immature "adults" to me.
Posted by: no1buckigirl | August 31, 2009 5:10 PM
Remenber that part of the new testament that predicted we would handle snakes and not be harmed? Well, Dick Cheney is one of those snakes. Real Christians need not fear him. He needs to fear himself though. He's got a lot to answer for.
Posted by: rooster54 | August 31, 2009 3:48 PM
Cheney is a proud criminal. What's so unusual about that? Our prisons are full of proud criminals and I am sure we can find a bed in one for him, too.
Posted by: jbowen431 | August 31, 2009 3:09 PM
The Muslim religion created by Muhammad, a pedophile and caravan raider, encourages violence against non-Muslims while posters on this site excoriate Cheney and anyone else who will fight back against Muslim thugs and force them to spill the beans. Waterboarding is done on all Air Force pilots including John McCain so are posters going to arrest all USAF personnel who do the waterboarding? Probably. If posters were in power we would be in bigger trouble than we are now with our Kenyan born Obama. Why do you refuse to believe his grandmother who was present at Obama's birth at Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. Local Imam named Obama Hussein. A lot of ignorance out there with WashPo readers posting here.
Posted by: mascmen7 | August 31, 2009 1:21 PM
Posted by: sm98yth | August 31, 2009 12:13 PM
Cheney is a war criminal. He is the worst American since Benedict Arnold. He needs to be in an orange jump suit, that's the best way to refute his lame arguments for torture.
The Post should have the integrity to call what Cheney did torture.
Posted by: joejoe2000 | August 31, 2009 11:08 AM
Look up the definition of National Socialist (Nazi)...then consider what the Republicans did after 911...consider Cheney's agenda and actions. Try and convince me the Cheney / Bush cabal wasn't on a path to introduce National Socialism to the United States.
Posted by: skiloypet | August 31, 2009 9:24 AM
Oh Dick, We, the people are coming for you. I hope you go kicking and screaming..
Posted by: Thatsnuts | August 31, 2009 8:11 AM
Bill Clinton kept our nation safe after the 1993 WTC bombing. It wasn't until the Bush Regime came to town in January 2001 that the protections put in place slowly were pulled away and then the biggest attack on our nation happened that September.
Dick Cheney should be in prison. Having your attorneys rewrite/redefine laws so you could break them is not legal! Torture ANYONE is illegal! American police are able to catch killers in our country due to DETECTIVE WORK and not torture! Spit.
Posted by: KayInMaine | August 31, 2009 6:37 AM
@k8iedid: There is so much wrong with nearly every point you try to make as if you are projecting all of Bush's wrongs onto Obama.
You seriously need to start getting your information from more than one source, let me guess...Fox News.
I happen to work in National Security, and nearly every military advisor and counterterrorism expert I have talked to would disagree with your OPINIONS whole-heartedly. Furthermore, you give no evidence or examples to back up your OPINIONS which you are certainly entitled to, but you know what they say, opinions are like @$$holes, eveybody's got one.
Posted by: JRM2 | August 31, 2009 12:40 AM
I too am proud of the handling of terrorists by the Bush administration. The terrorists were intent upon destroying us. 9-11 was an act of war. There should be no limits to the pain to be inflicted in the effort to save our country. Any pain the terrorists experienced was miniscule in comparison to the agony they inflicted on the innocent victims and their families at 9-11. They shold be forced to experience some of that pain. And by whatever means necessary, George W. Bush, kept our country safe for 8 years. After eight years of Obama's reign, our country as it existed after eight years of George W. Bush will no longer exist. It will be in shambles.
Obama wants to coddle his terrorist friends, but these are evil people out to destroy us because they believe us to be the infidel. Clinton certainly contributed to that image when he first lied to the nation about Maonica then had to go on TV and confess. Then to make matters worse, 3 days later he attacked Afghanistan who at that time had not been involved in an attack on our country.
Obama has been not yet been in office as long as President Bush when 9-11 occurred and I feel much less safe with him at the helm. Anyone who feels safe under his leadership is either hypnotized or brain dead.
George W. Bush may have inflicted terror on terrorists, but Obama is inflicting terror on the American public.
He has destroyed the economy we relied on for our children's future. He has taken control of our industries and banks. He had fired anyone who got in his way regardless of rules and laws to the contrary.
Obama is the fulfillment of the Nation of Islam's promise after 9-11 to "destroy America from within." From within, Obama is destroying every aspect of the American ideal of freedom.
Posted by: k8iedid | August 31, 2009 12:29 AM
1.) Why is Fox news the number one rated cable news network for like a billion years in a row. Orielly blows away his competition.
2.) The police in this country do humiliating things to average law abiding citizens every day. Killing kids with tazers, wrongful deaths, bullcrap tickets just to bring money into the local municipality so the pigs can stay relevant and you are upset about torchering a bunch of terrorists that want to destroy america and are willing to die to accomplish their goals. Liberals are super idiots. I like to think of you as stained for life liberals.
Posted by: jkbrook11 | August 30, 2009 11:29 PM
Chaney, Quite frankly you offend the hell off of me.
One question. Just what was Sooooo secret that you had to move it yourself & pull your back out? It's not like you didn't have 100's of aides to pack for you.
Posted by: JoeNTx | August 30, 2009 10:03 PM
We need to hurry on these investigations. I don't want Cheney croaking from a heart attack before he does some time.
Posted by: thehummelr | August 30, 2009 9:28 PM
Cheney is under the influence of his own ego. He will face the music soon and he knows it. There is a related post at http://iamsoannoyed.com/?page_id=588
Posted by: carlyt | August 30, 2009 8:49 PM
@priley8104 | August 30, 2009 6:39 PM
LOL ~ he is something else to set you off
Okay and why dont you look into the real reason we are at War in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
This too is "rich" LOL ~ There are two and only two countries in the World, Afghanistan and Pakistan, that border both Iran and China. Now put this in your pipe and smoke it ... Iran wants to setup an energy transit corridor thru either Afghanistan or Pakistan to get to China.
Not gonna happen ... would not be prudent to the Empire if it happens ...
Now tell me oh wise one is this the real reason Iran is on the rogue nation list ? ...
It is a yes or no question.
We are not exporting errrrrr ... forcing Liberty on Afghanistan and the rest of the World ... We are in search of energy ... and have a different plan for an energy transit corridor to Asia via the Middle EAst than what Iran has planed. But what the hell do I know ..
I know I am way off base about the $ flowing into Iran should they establish said corridor and their resulting Hegemony in the region having nothing to do with our listing Iran as a rogue Nation.
Thanks for supporting my view that the United States is the Land of the Blind.
Posted by: AmericanSpirit | August 30, 2009 8:08 PM
Of COURSE Cheney says this is all political. If it ceases being political and becomes a law enforcement matter it is inevitable he'll find himself side by side with George Bush on the gallows.
Cheney HAS to pretend it is a political matter. Obama has ceased politicizing it by letting the justice department do their job and investigate criminals to see if they can be tried and punished.
Posted by: andycutler | August 30, 2009 6:51 PM
Is this investigation politically motivated? Well, duh!
Could it useful? Yes. For the sake of the current and all future administrations, everyone needs to answer to the rule of law, to judges, or to the people. This country is moving toward a dictatorship. That's a bad thing BTW.
Posted by: ProfElwood | August 30, 2009 6:50 PM
I mean ... after the Patriot Act ... and the intrusion in the lives of ALL Americans as a consequence ... I am A~Okay with Holder doing a little digging into Cheney's bizness.
This is rich! Why don't you look into your Presidents unholy alliance with his Marxist CZAR's who will REALLY intrude on your little hopeless life!! Check out Mark Lloyd, the "Diversity" creep who wants to stifle free speech in this country. Or the co-founder of the Weather Underground, Jessie Jones, who helped write the "stimulus" bill and is now working to write grants to empty this account and redistribute all these taxpayer dollars to Obama's minions, ACORN, SEIU, Progressive Think Tanks, Americorp, etc. Ask your President why he has so many SUBVERSIVE GOONS as his personal Advisor's! This is NOT THE CHANGE WE WANTED!!
Posted by: priley8104 | August 30, 2009 6:39 PM
As I read the article a couple things came to mind:
1. Fox News has no business calling itself a news or journalistic station. If they wanted to call themselves the Voice of Conservatism, that would be more believable.
That will happen about as soon as NBC starts calling itself Obama's Czar of Propaganda!
Unlike NBC and the rest of the MSM, Fox News has BOTH conservative opinion AND liberals countering those opinions. This is why FOX NEWS is the number one Cable News station in the country and is raking in the ratings while their detractors are in the toilet! One good flush will sink them for good. Maybe they should try the fair and balanced approach instead of being Obama's lap dogs!
Posted by: priley8104 | August 30, 2009 6:31 PM
lydgate, is your name Chris?
Posted by: shrink2 | August 30, 2009 6:28 PM
Did 9/11 occur because the terrorists viewed the Bush/CHENEY Administration as weak?
That's the Bush/CHENEY/McCain/PALIN view of the world, turned back on themselves.
Posted by: clouburns | August 30, 2009 6:15 PM
Hey CHENEY -- thought you wanted an investigation to vindicate you?
*erhaps IF you and Bush had been worried about what the next Administration might say, we would NOT now be living with the rep utation of being TORTURE DEVOTEES.
CHENEY, you obviously believe that if the President's Office does it, it is not illegal. Again -- No, CHENEY -- 1000 times, NO!
And FOR WHAT did you torture, CHENEY? As we now can clearly see, nearly nothing!
Anyone objectively reading the news of the last 2 days -- about the so-called "information" that the master-mind of 9/11 provided us, while being tortured -- will be shocked to discover that he provided little-if-anything of value.
** For example, shouldn't our own "intelligence and security people" have been able to figure out -- without Khalid's "help" -- the traits desirable in a terrorist?
** For another example, shouldn't our own "intelligence and security people" have been able to figure out -- again, without Khalid's "help" -- the nuclear wish-list of the terrorists?
We are just lucky that the Bush/Cheney bungled handling of Katrina -- a few years POST-9/11 -- did NOT clue in the terrorists to our ongoing ineptitude.
Posted by: clouburns | August 30, 2009 6:09 PM
Cheney is no Hitler, but he would have been very happy as a mid-level official for the Third Reich. The SOB is daring the Obama Administration to prosecute him; I say oblige him!!
Posted by: lydgate | August 30, 2009 6:01 PM
How does it feel having Big Brother Looking into your bizness Dick ?
I am giving Obama the benefit of the doubt, this is not political but a search for whether or not any laws were broken.
I mean ... after the Patriot Act ... and the intrusion in the lives of ALL Americans as a consequence ... I am A~Okay with Holder doing a little digging into Cheney's bizness.
Mr. Cheney ... if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear ~ you know the logic ... it is in line with the same BS you told the American People about the Patriot Act ...and the immunity for the TeleComs ...
This is about National Security .. Holder is just checking to make sure your shenanigans were not a threat to National Security ...
Relax Dick ... you have nothing to fear as you did nothing wrong .. the rest of us have are susceptible to these intrusions ... why not you ?
Posted by: AmericanSpirit | August 30, 2009 5:26 PM
When will Team Obama end the secretive, extajudicial, multi-agency "coordinated action program" that is destroying the lives and livelihoods of unjustly targeted Americans...
...via covert, warrantless GPS/cell phone stalking and harassment, financial sabotage, and the deployment of silent, health degrading, "slow-kill" microwave and laser directed energy weapons...
...the weaponization of the electromagnetic spectrum...
...the Xyklon-B of a Bush-Cheney- spawned American Gestapo that continues to operate on YOUR watch -- enabled by the blind naivete of your cabinet?
OR (if link is corrupted / disabled):
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "GESTAPO USA" (see stories list)
Posted by: scrivener50 | August 30, 2009 5:04 PM
Cheney doesn't get it. Torture is illegal. Even his "Boss: GW Bush stood in front of America and the World and said, "America doesn't torture".
Cheney wants to argue that it's OK to torture as long as it works. Most experts say it doesn't work but that's irrelevant. It's torture, he admits doing it.
Prosecute this stain on Americas honor.
Posted by: thebobbob | August 30, 2009 4:56 PM
Prewar predictions coming back to bite
Officials who forecast a brief conflict now say it'll be neither quick nor easy. That could open the administration to tough questions about credibility.
WASHINGTON -- Armchair generals and media critics aren't the only people whose comments are giving heartburn to administration officials defending the progress of the war with Iraq. The officials also face questions about their own remarks made before the fighting began.
Then, Vice President Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, spoke optimistically in interviews and at briefings about the prospects that the war would be short, Iraqi resistance limited and Iraqi citizens welcoming.
Now, the president has pounded the podium when asked how long the war will last -- "However long it takes," he replied Thursday with open annoyance -- and Myers said Sunday, "Nobody should have any illusions that this is going to be a quick and easy victory."
Posted by: kkrimmer | August 30, 2009 4:54 PM
"I'm proud we ignored the warnings about an attack by Al-Qaida, and not responding to the needs of those in the Gulf states in the wake of Katrina." - Dick Cheney
Gonna be proud of everything?
Posted by: kkrimmer | August 30, 2009 4:31 PM
The two major political parties have lost their focus on the serious problems we are facing in America today and are simply trying to bash one another. This child play and these misguided attempts to destroy the other party display a horrible lack of leadership and loss of integrity in Washington.
Posted by: wgp43 | August 30, 2009 4:23 PM
bgreen said:
"Hey, Dick, Hitler was proud, too."
Our interrogation was defensive, Hitler's action was transgressive. Do you know the difference? What about your @ss and a hole in the ground?
Posted by: Billw3 | August 30, 2009 4:15 PM
Hey you liberals knocking the "torture"
Want to know about torture? Would you have wanted to be on a floor above the fires at twin towers? Speak up now, don't be bashful..
Posted by: Billw3 | August 30, 2009 4:10 PM
Thank God for Dick Cheney.
His support of torture, incessant fear mongering and outright lying continues to keep the RepubliKKKans and what they stand for clearly in focus.
Now he reminds us once again how close we came to Nazism when he tells everyone how proud he is of keeping America safe. Hey, Dick, Hitler was proud, too.
Can't wait until this symbol of sick thinking is behind bars.
Posted by: bgreen2224 | August 30, 2009 4:10 PM
Cheney's afraid that when all the dust settles in the probe he'll be in jail.
Sterling Greenwood/Aspen Free Press
Posted by: AspenFreePress | August 30, 2009 4:04 PM
To darkhelmet1983: While I thank you for doing your job with the Department of Homeland Security, I must respectfully disagree with your statement.
We as a nation with a government of the people, for the people and by the people can not afford to allow our government to take action that will be contrary to our constitution or laws. If they, the government, is not held accountable, then what is the purpose of our laws and constitution? They become useless words on paper with no meaning or power. No one, big or small, is above the law. No administration or organization should be allowed to disregard the constitution and sidestep our laws.
We are a democratic free nation. Freedom does come at a price and at times it's a heavy toll. As a people we need to work within our laws and constitution to bring about change. Once we go down the path that ignores our basic tennants, then what right do we have to call other nations or people on the carpet for their actions.
Posted by: Bearthoven | August 30, 2009 3:56 PM
Is it not deeply unpatriotic for an ex-VP to undermine the sitting president? Has that ever happened before? Cheney's statements undermine our current national security. How patriotic is that?
Posted by: washingtonpost31 | August 30, 2009 3:55 PM
Don't forget:
Obama We are very proud of what we did. Bowing and kissing ass to Arabs. Wants to kill America.
I may not like Cheney (cousin to Obama-maybe runs in family) but ANYTHING to stop attack and save America.
Posted by: marianne5 | August 30, 2009 3:40 PM
"If you tell a lie that's big enough, and you tell it often enough, people will believe you are telling the truth, even when what you are saying is total crap."
Posted by: shadowmagician | August 30, 2009 3:37 PM
As I read the article a couple things came to mind:
1. Fox News has no business calling itself a news or journalistic station. If they wanted to call themselves the Voice of Conservatism, that would be more believable.
2. Why do we need to keep hearing from this man? What good does it do America now? Please stop giving him airtime and start concerning ourselves over the myriad of other issues we've got on our plate. He's already done his damage to our country, it's no longer his turn to play.
3. For those of you who still are defending the actions of the previous administration, go back and re-read the evidence. Maybe it's ok for you that our constitution was trampled on, or that our country has been diminished due to the blatant disregard for the Geneva Conventions Accord we signed, or even that the Executive branch of the government tried to overpower both the Judicial and the Legislative Branches, but it's not ok with me or millions of other Americans. What more proof do you need that what they did to the U.S. is far more harmful than their proclaimed vigilance against terrorism? Their administration was the living embodiment of Hermann Goering's statement during the Nuremburg Trials. Please look it up if you don't know what he said.
Posted by: Bearthoven | August 30, 2009 3:32 PM
Everything Cheney says is designed to prevent him from standing trail as the war criminal he is. If the media wasn't part of the corporate cabal that runs the nation they wouldn't give him a platform from which to spout.
Remember when journaists ran newspapers? Does anyone think that the Pentagon Papers or Watergate disclosures would happen today?
Posted by: bizecology | August 30, 2009 3:06 PM
It is highly unlikely Cheney would go to trial:
(1) Domestic laws and related precedents make it difficult (not impossible) to bring a former VP to trial for decisions made while in office.
(2) As you may know, the United States is NOT a member of the International Criminal Court. As a result, there is essentially no way Cheney could be brought to trial there.
I think is less about standing trial, than about not going down in history with a Darth Vader image.
It's hard to judge what would have been the outcome had Watergate or the Pentagon Papers come out today. I think that despite the decline of newspapers, Watergate could still happen today. Documents get leaked all the time, the significance is sometimes seen later.
Posted by: UnPatriotic | August 30, 2009 3:30 PM
We need to move on. There should be no review. We should also continue using the necessary means to try to avoid another attack on U.S. soil whatever those means may be. Period.
As a nation, neither we nor Congress need to know all there is to know about the CIA and its important mission.
Department of Homeland Security Employee
Posted by: DarkHelmet1983 | August 30, 2009 3:29 PM
I'm sure what would, "frankly, offend the hell out of.." Darth, would be to spend a day or two in the slammer for his evil deeds.
Posted by: abelito | August 30, 2009 3:26 PM
Dick Cheney is already positioning himself and his defense for his War Crimes trial
Posted by: johnstrack1 | August 30, 2009 3:25 PM
Did anyone think for a moment that Cheney would not defend the interrogation ordered or approved by him? When was the last time we saw a criminal plead himself guilty to the charge brought up against him in the court of law?
Posted by: TalkingHead1 | August 30, 2009 3:25 PM
The ignorant right-wing loons are so marginally insignificant and basiclly just a bunch of racists. Dicky Ceney is their god and hate is their core belief. But I hope they keep up their brainless chatter because it so defines who they are.
Posted by: tuttlegroup | August 30, 2009 3:24 PM
The vice-president can keeping talking all he wants, it will just continue to show his hubris.
Americans used to known to treat captured soldiers reasonably well and were actually respected for it, the the policy became "get tough." Now the U.S. has almost no credibility when it criticizes other countries for torture.
You can't have it both ways: torture prisoners in the U.S. or rendition them to countries that do, yet expect Americans (namely soldiers) to be treated well when they get captured. "Do as I say, not as I do", doesn't cut it anymore in the international realm.
Posted by: UnPatriotic | August 30, 2009 3:18 PM
Please, Washington Post, do not publish anything about this Dick. Just seeing his name, let alone his evil face, makes me feel sick in the stomach. Tell me about it only when he is dragged into a criminal court. This freak is a shame to humanity.
Posted by: Makani | August 30, 2009 2:51 PM
Now you know how 53% of America feels about your so-called "president!" We have never been so sick of seeing this lie-spewing Marxist Moron on national TV, campaigning like the Amateur Hour Oracle he actually is, day in and day out. Someone should tell the doofus he won and it's time to get off the stage and get to work on what is good for this nation, and not just what his Socialist agenda entails! It is going over like a lead balloon! People are beginning to see through Mr. Obama. Maybe this is the "transparency" he promised.
Posted by: priley8104 | August 30, 2009 3:18 PM
Will Dick Cheney have the same outpouring of admiration of respect and love from Republicans as well as Democrats when he dies as Ted Kennedy? No you say! Why? Because he, unlike Kennedy, cares only of himself not the people.
Thus, Cheney and his brain in her big bottom daughter Liz-zilla Cheney, spend their waking hours defending Dick's actions. They would both be better liked if they went on Jenny Craig or Nutri-system. Then they could do commercials for wieght loss success.
Posted by: Tell-the-Truth-Please | August 30, 2009 3:11 PM
oh dickie boy, the more you protest the more guilty you seem. you are an evil being.
Posted by: tuttlegroup | August 30, 2009 3:10 PM
Keep speaking out, Mr. Vice President! We appreciate everything that was done to keep this country safe for the past 8 years. Now that the Marxist Moron in the White House has erased the War Against Islamic Fascism, and is Mirandizing these murdering THUGS on the battlefield, and is conducting a witch hunt against the CIA operatives who were responsible to risking their lives to obtain Intelligence from countries who are in the belly of the beast, we can only bide our time until we can send these Amateur Hour Oracles packing! 2012 cannot come soon enough! Obama and his 40 + SUBVERSIVE communist/Marxist/Socialist Czar's will be neutered in 2010 and will be relegated to Lame Duckdom for the duration of their ONLY term in office. Thank you, Mr. Cheney and keep up the good work!
Posted by: priley8104 | August 30, 2009 3:09 PM
Only somebody like Cheney would be sadistic enough to be proud of torture.
Posted by: UnPatriotic | August 30, 2009 3:06 PM
Everything Cheney says is designed to prevent him from standing trail as the war criminal he is. If the media wasn't part of the corporate cabal that runs the nation they wouldn't give him a platform from which to spout.
Remember when journaists ran newspapers? Does anyone think that the Pentagon Papers or Watergate disclosures would happen today?
Posted by: bizecology | August 30, 2009 3:06 PM
BlueDog1. Yes. Indeed, when this idea first arose, and Obama SAID that he didn't support and investigation and Pelosi SAID she didn't know anything about it under her watch, Cheney was calling for FULL disclosure instead of only the selective release of documents that supported the Bush-bashing agenda that the Democrats keep using to deflect attention away from their own inadequacies. You seem to forget that the Democrats that were in office, and controlled Congress for the last 2 years of the Bush administration, will get caught up in any high level investigation as well. That's why they are trying to make it an issue, but limit it to only underlings.
I fully support what was done. I haven't changed my mind, and don't claim to have never have wanted retribution, just because of the passage of a few years. I'm honest with myself - unlike many people posting here. No wonder Pelosi openly dismisses her constituents ability to know what is best for them - she knows that if they can fool themselves that easily, it is no effort for her to tell them anything and them believe it.
Posted by: quark1 | August 30, 2009 3:02 PM
Dick Cheney continues to perpetuate the great lie just as Adolph Hitler and Josef Goebbels did in Germany. It's sad that the media continue to pay attention to his ravings.
Posted by: dsrobins | August 30, 2009 3:02 PM
Oh and, Dick...I wasn't a fan when you were "elected", and I'm still not a fan.
Posted by: Snedly1 | August 30, 2009 2:58 PM
The way I see it, anyone whose actions "offend the hell" out of Dick Cheney must be doing something right.
Posted by: Snedly1 | August 30, 2009 2:55 PM
Please, Washington Post, do not publish anything about this Dick. Just seeing his name, let alone his evil face, makes me feel sick in the stomach. Tell me about it only when he is dragged into a criminal court. This freak is a shame to humanity.
Posted by: Makani | August 30, 2009 2:51 PM
Cheney is a criminal.
Posted by: GeorgHerbet | August 30, 2009 2:50 PM
The author, paraphrasing Mr. Cheney, states:
"Not only does Cheney believe the changes in tactics are bad policy, he said the review, if it travels up the chain of command, will set a dangerous precedent for future administrations to seek prosecutions for opinions a previous administration has cleared through the Department of Justice."
Following that line of reasoning, an administration can do anything it wants because it has no fear of prosecution unless the crimes are discovered and prosecuted before said administration leaves office.
Pretty convenient.
Posted by: flamingliberal | August 30, 2009 2:50 PM
Quark1 insists that Cheney's remarks show what true leadership is because "He is willing to stand up and take responsibility for what happened under his watch."
Except for 9/11, of course. That wasn't his or the president's fault despite the well-documented lapses in their administration's oversight of security issues.
In any case, if Cheney is willing to take responsibility, then he shouldn't fear any investigation, as it will undoubtedly prove him correct, right? So actually he should insist that Holder not limit the investigation to the stupid schmucks who carried out the orders. He should BEG the justice department to investigate his office, too, just so he can clear his name and say "I told you so" with some actual proof.
Posted by: BlueDog1 | August 30, 2009 2:43 PM
Having read the comments of the Forum I believe there's nothing new that I can add.
Wait...He was the Vice President. His immediate staff, his immediate supervisor and the staff of the immediate supervisor should be included in this investigation.
I thought the protocols for this kind of stuff were established in Nuremberg, Germany, 1946.
Posted by: jato11 | August 30, 2009 2:43 PM
I'm having a hard time finding words that comply with the Post's decency policy to express my feelings after watching the Cheney interview.
He criticizes what he calls the politicization of the Justice Department. How would he describe during his tenure when in order to be considered for employment you had to pass the Monica Goodling "Republican-enough" standard and where Cheney himself helped orchestrate the firing of U.S. Attorneys who weren't aggressive enough in going after Democrats in the run-up to elections.
He says we need to send more troops to Afghanistan. Easy for him to say since he got five deferments so he would never have to see combat firsthand. And I haven't seen any of the Cheney or Bush kids volunteering for the military either. It's easy to be a blowhard fat bag of wind when you're a Dick Cheney, or a Rush Limbaugh, or a Sean Hannity, or a Bill O'Reilly, or a Newt Gingrich, or a Glen Beck who are rapid warmongers who having never actually worn the uniform a day on their lives.
He says his policies kept the nation safe for 8 years. Did he forget that 9/11/01 was on his watch? I suppose using his "the ends justify the means" argument you could say the fact no Japanese-Americans staged an attack during WWII justifies their internment. The "whatever it takes" bravado sounds good until it's someone you know who gets locked away or tortured in the name of national security. There has to be a place for common-sense and common-decency in deciding how much is too much in securing the homeland.
Dick Cheney should be ashamed. He is a disgrace and I hope history will judge him the way it does Joseph McCarthy. He should spend more time admiring the scenery from his palatial estate that he can afford thanks to his Halliburton millions and just shut the hell up and let the nation try to heal from the damage he inflicted.
Posted by: RetiredVeteran | August 30, 2009 2:37 PM
Cheney LIES to the public via the MSM.
This is his main tool in politics.
100% of what Cheney spins in his post- administration career is a lie meant to sway the jury pool of the American electorate that will soon be considering his crimes in the courts.
Posted by: onestring | August 30, 2009 2:36 PM
Like most neo-cons, no-bama has the IQ of a fruit fly.
Cheney is a WAR CRIMINAL. A PROVEN ENEMY OF THE U.S.CONSTITUTION. A TRAITOR AND A TERRORIST of the FIRST ORDER.
This worthless scum bag should be charged, tried, and executed for his MANY crimes.
Posted by: bluetalon | August 30, 2009 2:35 PM
Methinks someone going to implicate Darth Lord Cheney, if not outright rat him out. Next stop for Cheney: the International Tribunal at The Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity! O happy day!!!
Posted by: meldupree | August 30, 2009 2:33 PM
He's proud of going on vacation for August 2001 and allowing the United States to experience the worst attack on the nation, despite being told months before that Bin Ladin was intent on attacking inside the US, exactly how did he protect us?
Posted by: mikey30919 | August 30, 2009 2:32 PM
Cheney must be terrified! He knows that he is the true target of this review. He broke US law and he is proud of it.
But, like Ken Lay, Cheney will "die" on the day he's supposed to testify. And he'll receive his reward in Abu Dhabi.
Posted by: NotNowMooky | August 30, 2009 2:28 PM
Apart from the unprovable assertion that his tactics prevented another mass attack on U.S. soil, he criticizes the "partisan" tone in Washington. Well, who is responible for the past decades of conservative, Republi-cant, and increasingly right wing partisanship? They attack anything the Democrats do, often with provable lies -- e.g., that somehow the healthcare reform measures will lead to reprisals in healthcare against those who vote Republican. What's that biblical admonition about seeing specks of dust in your neighbor's eye and ignoring the 2x4 in your own? The responsibility for pathological partisanship is lying directly at the right wing propaganda machine's door. Hypocritical assertions on steroids!
Posted by: mesite | August 30, 2009 2:21 PM
Cheney, you dimwitted, money grubbing moron.
Did you used to show "W" your BM's and say "I'm really proud of what I did"?
Posted by: dlkimura | August 30, 2009 2:20 PM
Remember September 11th happened on Cheney's watch. Case closed. Credibility lost.
Posted by: ChevyChaseChap | August 30, 2009 2:11 PM
Dick Cheney on Fox news? Really, again. Hey Dick, you authorized torture, you broke the law. You fooled the American people by scaring the shi# out of them about the Invasion of Iraq or we all die. You wire tapped our phones and internet without a court order or for any reason. You got out of serving Vietnam 5 times and to utter amazement, you question John Kerry's patritism for VOLUNTEERING FOR VIETNAM!!! You failed to keep America safe. And in 12 days, President Obama will have kept American safer then your lying, lynching, arrogant administration. You outlived your hype of scare tatics...now just go back into your bunker until you have to testify under oath for the war crimes you commmited.
Posted by: kubrickstan | August 30, 2009 2:09 PM
Yes, VP Cheney, I am proud of what we did, too. It's unfortunate that terrorists and turncoats spew their venom on this site. Pay no attention to the insults from those behind the terrorist curtain.
Posted by: IIntgrty | August 30, 2009 2:08 PM
Mr. Cheney,
I'm ashamed that we let you do it.
Posted by: jef2 | August 30, 2009 2:06 PM
Many of the folks who make postings are still so scared as if this thug is still holding the reins of power. what a culture of sick sycophancy and lies ands spin and cow down and submission this r@scal ran in this country.
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 2:06 PM
When will this country ever be able to treat these so-called princely, vassals postering as larger than the state (" I am the State" - Louis XIV)..and ordinary run-of-the-mill folks like you and me alike just as the citizenship offers..equality in the eyes of law and justice?
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 1:59 PM
This sicko should be in jail along with most of dubya's inner circle. What an embarrassment for our country and our Constitution.
Posted by: annegreen | August 30, 2009 1:58 PM
Cheney is the quintessential Imperial American spoiled and coddled brat, socially graduated to Vice President (from nursery school-equivalent tantrumings, throughout his post-secondary life). He is a general flunky, simply and purely -- a de-generate in the full sense of the word, as re-defining torture decisively indicates his well-precedented doctrinaire thinking. If his many times over "conservative" pro-war draft-dodging did not prove his bald-faced rote cowardice of principles, his dull machinating clone of a daughter (see her presentation on ABC This Week today) -- "like father like daughter," (the sins of the father) -- indeed closes the case. A pathetic excuse of a person, not to mention a leader of the American people. Blather on, old man. We're proud to keep pointing you out as an example of human rot.
Posted by: rjohnson2842 | August 30, 2009 1:50 PM
No-bama..to begin with cut out that sick name and use your own name when you type innuendoes. Have guts. Thugs of all types walk this earth.
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 1:46 PM
This guy is more poised than Rush Limbaugh to say, "I told you so!" in the event of the inevitable terrorist attack that will, sadly, one day come to our country, despite super-human efforts to prevent it.
I just wish Cheney would stop hiding out at Fox News and face a real interviewer who would challenge him on the profound hypocrisy in his statements and positions.
Front and center: Criticism of the President during a time of war, something Cheney and the Right slammed war opponents for during Junior's presidency. They argued that dissent weakens national security and "emboldens" the terrorists). Now that he's out of office, it's OK for Cheney to do the same thing?
To all in national security: Thank you for your vigilance and professionalism. An unseen mass of millions appreciates your efforts. In rancorous debate, never lose sight of that.
Posted by: Stejay1 | August 30, 2009 1:44 PM
If there is an open contest for lying without batting an eyelid, our man would hit the Guiness Book.
If there is a War Commission to go into the decision to go to war on Iraq and all subesquent criminalities, I would say, this guy will get a lifer, the uno will get 10 years, Conzi will get 10 years and Rummy will get 15 years, with a severe indictment without charges for Cole Pole. Would not be surprised if the Ariz McKey got a 4 to 5 years..all on multiple criminal charges...
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 1:44 PM
So Mr. Cheney is trying to claim that if you mean well, it's ok. If your level of responsibility is that high, you can't be held responsible for whatever happens. You're too important to fail.
Sorry, Dick. The piper wants his money, now, with interest.
Posted by: YouMustBeJoking | August 30, 2009 1:42 PM
Cheney doesn't get it. Torture is illegal. Even his "Boss", GW Bush, stood in front of America and the World and said, "America doesn't torture".
Cheney wants to argue that it's OK to torture as long as it works. Most experts say it doesn't work but that's irrelevant. It's torture, he admits doing it.
Prosecute this stain on Americas honor.
Posted by: thebobbob | August 30, 2009 1:38 PM
It's really strange to read the unbelievable comments related to this article. Wishing death upon an ex-VP over his policies of alledged "torture" is absolutely insane!
For those who are making these comments - Do you hear your own hypocrisy?
You are hoping the life of an ex-VP will end just because his policies included "harsh" interrogations of people who already murdered 1000's of innocent Americans and planned to kill more.
Also, suggesting that Bush was somehow responsible for 9/11 ignores the actions from the Clinton administration; the systematic slashing and burning of the intelligence community budgets.
Hypocrits! Hypocrits! Hypocrits!
You value the comfort of murdering terrorists over the life of a patriotic ex-VP. Hypocrits! Hypocrits! Hypocrits! Hypocrits!
Posted by: NO-bama | August 30, 2009 1:33 PM
Big Dick Cheney - enough already!
Posted by: yamamah | August 30, 2009 1:32 PM
Former Vice President Dick Cheney reiterated his claim that enhanced interrogation techniques used on terrorism suspects in U.S. custody in the years after September 11, 2001, worked in revealing terror plots.
Prove it, Dick. Your fear mongering is pathetic.
Posted by: swatkins1 | August 30, 2009 1:31 PM
Looks like the bird knows very well that the game is up. Spend your remaining free time wisely, before you step onto the scaffold, man.
Any last wishes as a free bird?
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 1:30 PM
As VP Cheney stopped Abu Ghraib prosecutions at the enlisted level. Did he foresee future liability from administration activities that led him to detest accountability at the policy development level?
Previously Cheney sought to conflate useless information obtained by torture with valuable intelligence gained from torture victims by legal means. Here he forgets that fear and bluster have been replaced by hope and rational discussion as the modus operandi of the administration.
Posted by: royfuchs | August 30, 2009 1:25 PM
A pitiful display. Say it loud, Cheney is evil and proud! It's killing Cheney that he is no longer running the country. Even though he knows every word he says drives down the Republican's approval ratings, he still can't shut up.
What a turd.
Posted by: jamesbatic | August 30, 2009 1:24 PM
the CIA says there wasn't any useful information gleaned from these techniques but cheney says there were, why doesn't he just proves it???
Posted by: shaisdadraw1 | August 30, 2009 1:23 PM
I am pretty confident that these tow guys had a direct hand in getting Sep 11th triggered on the country. Then they came up with the ace clean up act. The scowling , lying look on Dubie's face gives it away. They are criminals. I tell ya ..by face reading.
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 1:23 PM
Its in Chenney's family gens to say they are proud.
Hitler: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did'
Posted by: BOBSTERII | August 30, 2009 1:22 PM
Sounds like Darth Vadar is feeling a little hissy today. Aren't we all glad we aren't going hunting with him today? Here's some advise Darth, go back to your secret Bunker, and Shut-up. You'r 15 minutes is OVER!
Posted by: rtruran | August 30, 2009 1:22 PM
Cheney: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did'
Bin Laden: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did'
Saddam: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did'
Ahmedinejad: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did'
Chavez: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did'
Putin: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did'
Ariel Sharon: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did'
Posted by: BOBSTERII | August 30, 2009 1:20 PM
Martin Bormann undoubtedly said he was proud of what he did. Borman/Cheney -- two peas in a pod.
Posted by: Offthegrid | August 30, 2009 1:17 PM
Let's just hope that the current C.I.A. operatives won't hold back due to this... it could be tragic.
Posted by: newbeeboy | August 30, 2009 1:17 PM
On the morning after our nation buried a public servant who, for all his faults and tribulations, truly tried to make the nation a better place -- we have to watch and listen to the rants and ravings of the most arrogant, deceitful, insular, detested, and failed American in public life.
Keep talking, Dick. Someday, somebody outside your immediate family and the 27% of slope heads who think you're the Second Coming will believe you.
Posted by: singleseatbiggermeat | August 30, 2009 1:17 PM
Most interesting to me is the subtle re-write of history by claiming Bush/Cheney policices were "directly responsible for keeping America safe for eight years". I could have sworn that Bush/Cheny were in office when 9/11 ocurred and that they maybe ignored some of the intelligence that was presented to them that could have averted the 9/11 attack. I wonder if they ignored that intel because it was not obtained through enhanced interrogation.
Posted by: jlogic | August 30, 2009 1:17 PM
Two special cells need to be kept open at Guantanamo just for two. The Unos and the Dos of the previous rogue admin.
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 1:16 PM
Obama is clearly weak and his AG is clearly in control. Afterall, Obama can't do anything about Holders witch hunt. Yea, right. Just think of all the people in different agencies trying to keep America safe. I'm sure they are all very motivated now. They were taking orders from a Justice Department for the last 8 years...just doing their jobs and along comes a radical left-wingnut Pres looking to prosecute people for just doing what they were told. America shouldn't be surprised if another 747 slams into the side of another building during the next few years.
Elections have consequences.
Posted by: NO-bama | August 30, 2009 1:16 PM
"Cheney says he stands behind the interrogation tactics..."
Say what you will about the Bush/Cheney Administration, but these words show what true leadership is about. He is willing to stand up and take responsibility for what happened under his watch. I'll take that any day, good or bad, over people who seek to lie about their involvement, attempt to hide the truth, and attack those who are under their charge.
Congress had its chance to take a stand - they were briefed as we've seen, despite Pelosi's lies that she wasn't informed - and didn't do anything. Obama was also in the Democratically controlled Congress while this was going on. Now, she and her ilk are turning on the people of the CIA - mainly I'm sure, to distract the conversation away from their ill conceived health care plan and only God knows what else they are conspiring to implement to continue to ruin this once great nation.
And I will say to the 2-faced hypocrites screaming about how wrong it was now, that I know good and well that most of you were screaming for blood immediately following 9/11. To deny it now, or rationalize that it didn't happen they way you thought it would, is truly disingenuous and you're only fooling yourself when you deny it.
Posted by: quark1 | August 30, 2009 1:16 PM
Cheney, if you didn't violate the law, then you should have nothing to be afraid of, right? What are you afraid of? You're not running for political office, anyway, and have plenty of time to waste answering investigators. Are you afraid of something? You have no political future, so what's to worry? JAIL.
Posted by: yihe94703 | August 30, 2009 1:14 PM
Well that's great. Now history can never separate if the suspects knew about the torture program before they were tortured. I am certain their is a skeleton key out there somewhere that would show what a sick and perverted pile of crap Platoon Leader Cheney was. It's hard to find it even though it is in plain sight but let the solar winds take you under America's big top for the show you never wanted to know existed. The truth may set some people free, but I am absolutely certain it would cause a jury of reasonable peers to give Chicken Hawk Cheney a lethal injection, and it would not be staged.
Posted by: Wsstatesecret | August 30, 2009 1:13 PM
Every student who has those saddled student debt to fannie or sallie without a job becoz of the recession should clearly recognize that the recession is the direct effect of the suction that this evil duo ran up on the excehquer on wild expenses which had no true value for you or me.
All students on student loan debts should start a Public Interest Litigation to recover the costs from the State. The State messed up clearly and precisely. You did not. You were duly diligent with your long hours of study and effort and the cold sweat. These swindlers are responsible. Indict and recover through a civil suit.
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 1:11 PM
Cheney proves again that a paranoid delusional was VP and dimwit president. their power over the parrot pundits and mighty mental midgits kept them in power. malfeasnace, corruption, greed and selfinterest have brought the nation to the brink and there is no easy road home from here.
"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we now know that it is bad economics." -
-- Franklin d. roosevelt
Posted by: jpenergy | August 30, 2009 1:11 PM
"I guess the other thing that offends the hell out of me, frankly ... is we had a track record now of eight years of defending the nation against any further mass casualty attacks from Al Qaida," Cheney said.
Ya know, I'm really tired of hearing this line. The last time anyone attacked the U.S. was Pearl Harbor. After 60 years with no mass casualty attacks, the Bush administration allowed 9/11. Then they ignored New Orleans after Katrina, forcing a major US city to fend for itself and acting like it was all a big surprise.
Now Cheney wants us to consider their track record in defending the country. The thing is, we *have* considered the Bush/Cheney track record. It kinda sucks. And it's obvious that we're safer now that **anyone else** is in office and is ignoring Cheney's advice.
Posted by: wizard2 | August 30, 2009 1:10 PM
This gang of thugs (and the people who voted for them) have subverted and ultimately subordinated their country. We are becoming China's proxy now, our economy will reel whenever China tweaks its attitude toward our debt, like Israel is to the United States.
Posted by: shrink2 | August 30, 2009 1:09 PM
didnt keep the country safe on9/11 dick.and torture didnt keep country safe dick.its before 9/11 you should be talking about.
Posted by: donaldtucker | August 30, 2009 1:08 PM
Tne Next Press Conference should be with a LIE DETECTOR clearly visible to the audience. I wanna watch the blinks..
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 1:06 PM
Sorry, Cheney, executive privilege does not allow for abuse of power and subverting the law.
Yes, there are precedents:
Richard Nixon went out in disgrace after Watergate.
Ehud Olmert has been indicted for corruption.
The previous president of Taiwan is now in jail for corruption.
Mussolini was hung upside down from a meat hook.
Justice is eventually served. Thanks for loudly proclaiming your guilt. It will make your trial go that much quicker.
Posted by: yihe94703 | August 30, 2009 1:05 PM
Lets see what the intelligence agencies report said about the intelligence of the Bush/Cheney administration.
Iraq War Made Americans Less Safe
The National Intelligence Estimate titled "The Terrorist Threat to the Homeland" amounts to a devastating critique of the Bush administration's policies on Iraq, Iran, and the terrorist threat itself. July 7, 2007
From what Dick Cheney has been saying, he and Bush made america more not less safe... which is it? the Bush/Cheney Intelligence Agency report or Cheney?
Posted by: kkrimmer | August 30, 2009 1:05 PM
Hey DICK,
I heard that the Hague is lovely in the winter!
Posted by: wiatrol | August 30, 2009 1:02 PM
He's PROUD of outing a covert CIA agent that was working to stop Iranian WMD's !?!
He's PROUD of subjugating the constitution?
He's PROUD that after we topped Saddam, Rumsfeld told the troops to let Iraq riot and the serwer, water, and electric systems were destroyed giving the insurgents their greatest win against our troops?
He's PROUD that lies were inserted into the State of The Union address?
He's PROUD of the billions wasted in Iraq by Paul Bremer?
He's PROUD of the crimes he told Enron they could go forward with in his secret energy meetings?
He's PROUD of the millions he has personally made as his stock in Haliburton rose in responce to the $ billions in no-bid contracts that he gave to himself/Haliburton?
Keep talking Dick - we're going to be proud of our American justice system when you're being tried for treason for outing that CIA agent - and for your plot to stack the justice department with fake federal prosecutors launching fake investigations against candidates you didn't like during election campaigns.
Cheney will look REALLY GOOD AND PROUD IN PRISON!
Posted by: onestring | August 30, 2009 1:02 PM
Yes, yes safe indeed. The colour of the terror alerts was manipulated and controlled by the Dubious, Scoobie Dubie, this scraggy's very own pet dog in the WH. And they slapped a trillion dollar bill on the American citizen's weatshirt and flew off quietly. Birdies.
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 1:02 PM
Dick Cheney proudly announces, "I am guilty. I subverted the rule of law to promote the use of torture. I deceived the American people about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I am the most despicable piece of scum on Earth."
Posted by: yihe94703 | August 30, 2009 1:01 PM
Posted by: imZandor | August 30, 2009 1:01 PM
How long do we have to continue to read what this piece of garbage says? The man is absolutely sure he will never be indicted and he probably won't, but he damn sure ought to be.
Posted by: kyeager1 | August 30, 2009 1:01 PM
Thank you, Mr. Vice President!
Please keep speaking out and keep up the pressure on the corrupt thugs now in charge of our national security.
Posted by: thebump | August 30, 2009 1:00 PM
I did watch Cheney this morning on fox, He is indeed a very worried, and scared man, it shows, could it be the USA has to throw someone to the lions, to clear its reputation and Dick is it.
Posted by: dv1236 | August 30, 2009 12:59 PM
For those of you that have not been paying attention; Bush and Cheney kept the country safe. Except, of course, during 9/11 and the anthrax attacks. Otherwise, I guess, we were safe.
Posted by: wiatrol | August 30, 2009 12:58 PM
Cheney: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did'
Why, goodie for you, Dickie.
Posted by: T-Prop | August 30, 2009 12:57 PM
Only the click of hand-cuffs on his own two hands can teach this thug that the game is up, birdie.
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 12:56 PM
What wasn't mentioned in the article is that DICK is F' ing crazy!
Posted by: wiatrol | August 30, 2009 12:56 PM
how exactly did he and his puppet (sorry, have forgotten his name) keep us safe? by ignoring intelligence reports? why didn't he ask bill clinton how *he* kept the country safe from terrorism for eight years? if he had, he might not have failed! failed! failed so catastrophically on september 11. but he could not have asked ... he is too partisan and arrogant. how disturbing it is that such a damaged individual was out de facto president.
Posted by: jrm1 | August 30, 2009 12:53 PM
The two crooks, Dubious and Le Chien should be in JAIL.
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 12:51 PM
Its no surprise that Cheney considers it all a slam dunk in his favor. History will have a different opinion, despite his rabid ravings to his like-minded under-educated base on FOX News.
Posted by: bushieisa | August 30, 2009 12:47 PM
"Israeli authorities indicted former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on corruption charges Sunday, the first criminal indictment ever filed against a current or past Israeli prime minister.
Olmert, who stepped down earlier this year over the corruption issue, is accused of illegally accepting funds from an American backer, double-billing for trips abroad and concealing funds from a government watchdog.
He faces charges that include fraud and breach of trust.
The charges filed in a Jerusalem court on Sunday first surfaced when Olmert was still prime minister, although Olmert allegedly committed the offenses while serving as mayor of Jerusalem and later as a Cabinet minister, before being elected prime minister in 2006".
If Israel can do it, so can the United States.
The diamond cuts all the way through the hot butter.
"When the going gets tough, the tough get going" - JFK.
If there is Audacity in Hope, PRESS ON. INDICT. FRAME CHARGES. TRY. GET SENTENCED. SEND TO JAIL.
Posted by: mdsubramonia | August 30, 2009 12:46 PM
I can't believe Hatch said what he did about Bush not investigating the torture going on under him and his administration so Obama shouldn't do it either. Of course Bush didn't investigate it -- he was breaking the law! I can't believe how the GOP is still goose stepping with Bush/Cheney and the rest of that disgracement administration. Also, don't forget the JD was NOT an independent branch under Bush/Cheney. The AG (Gonzales) took all his marching orders from Bush/Cheney/Rove, thus, no meaningful investigations of their administration.
Posted by: lddoyle2002 | August 30, 2009 12:46 PM
Tune into some more of what Cheney did...
OR (if link corrupted by psy ops):
http://NowPublic.com/scrivener RE: "Now They've Weaponized Digital TV -- Or So It Seems."
Posted by: scrivener50 | August 30, 2009 12:46 PM
I am so sure that a man who helped create laws on par with WWII Nazi's is very proud of what they did. Lets start with the illegal war (which Bush has been indicted for and is currently under investigation and not allowed to leave the country), the use of torture, the homeland security bill which gives federal agents the right to arrest you without so much as a clue as to why or even a warrant! Yes I can see why this fascist would be proud of what they accomplished.
Posted by: WTF3 | August 30, 2009 12:44 PM
I am proud that we had Dick Cheney as VP. I can't even imagine how bad things would have been without brave and tough men like him defending our national interests against the islamic terrorist threat. It is pathetic that panty-wearing liberals have convinced the Obama administration to rehash an investigation of the CIA. All this will accomplish is to give comfort to terrorists around the world that we don't have the will to fight them aggressively. Why not just sit down and have unconditional peace talks with Osama Bin Laden? Forget that... just wave the white flag of surrender! And thank God that moron Kerry did not become president. OF COURSE IT'S A POLITICAL DECISION TO INVESITAGE THE CIA, YOU JERK! WE ARE NOT BEING FOOLED BY YOUR DOUBLE TALK!
Posted by: VGVG1 | August 30, 2009 12:44 PM
If we had to vote right now to a question "Which human being on earth least deserves to be living at this time?" I would say Cheney would top the list hands down, slam dunk.
Posted by: Kingofkings1 | August 30, 2009 12:31 PM
The con-job continues.."proud of what we did"??!!? Cheney & Bush set this country back 50 years in almost everything that they touched. If he truly believes this made-for-Fox story, he's more whacked than previously imagined. Obama owes it to America to punish those, like Cheney, who abused the system & BROKE LAWs, all under the pretense of security. Cheney is a LIAR, a THIEF, & an EMBARASSMENT to America.
Posted by: rsampson02 | August 30, 2009 12:30 PM
Of course Cheney is proud of what they did. They succeeded in two of their stated goals. They were to 1) bankrupt the country so future administrations could not do anything financially, and 2) turn the government into being close to a fascist state. Between Cheney and Rove, we never had a chance. If 9/11 had not occurred, they would have throught of some other reason to go to war. They were planning war from the time they came into office. Without Ted Kennedy it is going to take much longer to come to compromises to clean up this mess!
Posted by: jeanhecht | August 30, 2009 12:27 PM
How could anyone in America believe Cheney..for he and Bush were the instruments to fabricate and "sell" weapons of mass destruction to the people of American.
I saw in Iraq what the "Bush team" did...maimed Soldiers and Marines..and nearly 4300 dead.
This one fact..above all reflects what Bush and Cheney did to America...they lied to us.
Posted by: LTC-11A | August 30, 2009 12:26 PM
VP Chaney has been consistently wrong on just about everything & has no creditability, history has proven that. No matter how many excuses, rationalizations, or justifications he comes up with, the Constitution was violated & International laws were broken !
VP Chaney, The Nile is not just a river in Africa ! !
Posted by: gezzerx | August 30, 2009 12:24 PM
And these considerations seem to come to me in threes.
By WHAT authority did Dick Cheney order, authorize, or otherwise set in motion ANY of these things?
The Vice President has but two functions, to serve as President of the Senate when it is needful, and to succeed the President should the President cease to be able to perform the duties of his office. Which of those functions gives him the authority to as much as fix a parking ticket?
Posted by: ceflynline | August 30, 2009 12:24 PM
Why this piece of filth is still allowed to breathe air meant for humans is beyond me. He should be hanging at the end of a rope for treason.
Posted by: seraphina | August 30, 2009 12:23 PM
As each piece of information about the Cheney presidency affirms our suspicions about the Puppet Master's shenanigans, he cries "foul". Any attempt at shining a light on the activities of that dark period will result in louder protests. What amazes me is that he and the his army of loyalists have any credibility. Their scripted rebuttals are so predictable.
The only truth in Cheney's comments is the politization of all things in DC. Can we get anyone to stray from the Party line?
Posted by: rgs21 | August 30, 2009 12:21 PM
"will we all beg for investigations over the death of civilians by unmanned drones by obama... did he not commit murder by killing bystanders of attacks by unmanned drone... well... is the next administration given the mandate of judging the prior one... so, is obama guilty of murder by drone... or was it in the defense of our country... you decide... Posted by: DwightCollins"
There might actually be reason for such investigation. In fact that would be a reinvestigation because there were already investigations to determine if (un)reasonable safety concerns were followed.
Still, the history of airborn warfare to date has permitted extreme collateral death and mayhem in the pursuit of enemies actively waging war against their own or other countries by the countries they are waging war against. Now IFF the attacks are indiscriminate attacks against arbitrary gatherings of people who just might be in the neighborhood of enemies attacking the U. S. without properly identifying the target, and weighing the importance of the target with the likelihood that the bystanders were totally unassociated with the target, perhaps there is cause for legal action.
Do you want to bet that the rules of engagement haven't been tightened and tightened again now that men of some moral judgment have taken the reigns of government from men for whom concepts of truth,justice, and morality were mere impediments to their lackadaisical performance of their duties?
It may be that standing such scrutiny is to be expected of our leaders.
Ask Miltiades.
Posted by: ceflynline | August 30, 2009 12:20 PM
Most criminals know somewhere deep inside that they are criminals. It takes a goebells style true believer to see what everyone else easily can see is evil and think it is good.
cheney is claiminsg this is all political. That is for one of two reasons, or more liekly a combination of the two. First he cannot concieve of NOT using the DoJ as anything but a polticial weapon. And second he knows that he must blunt this investigation because he is the ultimate target and could face years in court and his final years in a federal oir international prison.
Posted by: John1263 | August 30, 2009 12:15 PM
I have watched abuse in and out of this country for over 65 years. I saw the riots of the 1960's. I lived across Lincoln Park and watched Daley's police use clubs on protestors. I saw the fires in the slums. There is never an excuse for terror. A clean fight, is one thing, but torture can never be the answer. It will soon result in doing the same to free citizens of this country. Cheney is the true personage of the "UGLY AMERICAN"
Posted by: tykedawg | August 30, 2009 12:14 PM
"The founder of Blackwater USA deliberately caused the deaths of innocent civilians in a series of shootings in Iraq, attorneys for Iraqis suing the security contractor told a federal judge Friday."
Warlord wannabe Dick Cheney is proud of what he did. The Haliburton/Blackwater(Xe) oil war was his crowning achievement. For him, torture was just sideshow, a diversion from Shock and Awe.
Meanwhile, China is projecting its economic power, relentlessly overcoming the American hegemon. We'd better stop wasting money on consumer "goods" and military adventures. The American century ended with a tragedy.
But we are smart and we work hard and we are not burdened by religiosity or antique grudges. We will survive and we won't start any more unwinable wars. That is, unless we get China's backing.
Posted by: shrink2 | August 30, 2009 12:13 PM
The EX-Vice President should be in a small
cell at a Federal Prison somewhere, paying
the price for violating and authorizing the
violation of Federal Law.
He has absolutely no credentials to criticize
the Obama Administration FOR ANYTHING...and
for any legitimate News Agency or reporter
for same to treat this criminal as CREDIBLE
is absurd.
Posted by: iheardthisbefore | August 30, 2009 12:10 PM
"I guess the other thing that offends the hell out of me, frankly ... is we had a track record now of eight years of defending the nation against any further mass casualty attacks from Al Qaida," Cheney said. "The approach of the Obama administration should be to come to those people who were involved in that policy and say, 'How did you do it? What were the keys to keeping this country safe over that period of time?'"
Yep. they had a track record. They ignored all of the intelligence developed by the FBI and other agencies, using normal, legal techniques, and thus got 9/11, then ignored all of the intelligence that might have led to capturing bin Laden and his deputies, and putting the Taliban permanently out of business so they could teach us to use torture as a normal part of our Intelligence work, along with "Black" detention facilities and arbitrary kidnapping, rendition, torture, and then secret release of "persons of interest" who turn out to be totally uninvolved in anything remotely associated with terrorism.
He is a man lacking any moral sense, who believes that his ideas, based only on his opinions, and rejecting the experience of the true experts in the field, are worth totally rejecting the legal and moral considerations that supposedly guide the U. S. in its dealings with other nations and ALL peoples.
Dante would certainly have noticed him flaming brightly in the eighth bolgia of the circle of Hell. Would he have noticed the annular shape of the flame?
Posted by: ceflynline | August 30, 2009 12:08 PM
"thoust dost protest too much"
Posted by: ryan_heart | August 30, 2009 12:03 PM
Any not up to speed on the truth of Cheney's and Bush's having committed 9/11 as a Reichstag Fire Redux need only go to Google Scholar and download a copy of a book, now patriotically donated, of which millions have been sold at $15ea: "The New Pearl Harbor," a sedulous proof by a scholar of unimpeached integrity, David Ray Griffin, PhD and Emeritus Professor.
Posted by: iamerican | August 30, 2009 12:00 PM
will we all beg for investigations over the death of civilians by unmanned drones by obama...
did he not commit murder by killing bystanders of attacks by unmanned drone...
is the next administration given the mandate of judging the prior one...
so, is obama guilty of murder by drone...
or was it in the defense of our country...
you decide...
Posted by: DwightCollins | August 30, 2009 11:59 AM
Adolf Hitler was proud of his "achievements", but more Germans are ASHAMED of Hitler.
Cheney may not have been as bad as Hitler, but Cheney was one of the WORST and most criminal vice-presidents in history and deserves a cell next to Bernie Madoff's...until Cheney's dies.
Posted by: jjedif | August 30, 2009 11:56 AM
Are you proud Dick of being a mass murderer??
Are you proud Dick of being a WAR CRIMINAL?
Are you proud that you and your storm troopers took the US back 100 years as far as relations with other countries on OUR planet??
Are you proud Dick of being the laughing stock of most of the free world - YOU personally??
Are you proud Dick??? Hope the US Marshall service picks you up soon..The quicker the better.
Posted by: rbaldwin2 | August 30, 2009 11:56 AM
I am sorry but how can anyone be proud of torturing other human beings no matter what their supposed (and unproven) crimes may have been? Cheney himself is admitting that he is not quite up to being a human being. We could refer ro him as a sub-human. Both he and Bush are in that category as far as I can see. The fact that they were elected is a testimony to the overall undeveloped sense of human decency in a great number of people in the US. Fear, anger and greed are the guiding instincts in these so-called people. Hopefully, their breed is dying out and a further development in the evolution of humankind will come to pass. But the process is painfully slow.
Posted by: Jimdandy2 | August 30, 2009 11:50 AM
Can you imagine waking up to a snarling Dick Cheney on a Sunday morning? Who watches that covers their fear with hate.
Posted by: shrink2 | August 30, 2009 11:47 AM
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