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Kurt: Well I suppose I should thank you for . . . being honest with me . . .
I suppose. So have you taken PEP?
Travis: I told you, I have the prescription but—
Kurt: No, not PrEP. PEP.
Travis: Oh, you mean the—
Kurt: Yes PEP, the after one.
Travis: Oh that's right . . . PrEP is before . . .
Kurt: Which would have been much better to take, but since you haven't, then you should go to emergency and have them give you PEP right away. Has it been more than seventy-?two hours?
Travis: Just.
Kurt: Well that's what you should do then. Go to emergency tonight.
Travis: Okay, I will.
Kurt: I should say so.
Kurt clears his plate to the counter.
So, are we finished?
Travis: With—
Kurt: With this discussion?
Travis: Yes. I guess so. I just wanted you to know.
Kurt: As long as you take the PEP then we'll consider the matter over. After all, there's nothing we can do about it. And then start taking the Truvada. You will start taking the Truvada?
Travis: Of course I will.
Kurt: Good.
Kurt moves to go.
Travis: Where are you going?
Kurt: I'm going to my study.
Travis: Oh.
You don't want any . . . dessert?
Kurt: I'm not in the mood right now.
Maybe later.
He makes a move to go.
Travis: Kurt.
Kurt: What?
Travis: Are you mad at me?
Kurt: Not exactly. I'm perturbed. But I'll get over it.
Travis: You will?
Kurt: Of course I will. I love you.
Do you want me to go to emergency with you?
Travis: No, I think I can go myself.
I love you too, and . . . I'm sorry.
Kurt: Yes, I know you are. See you later.
Kurt leaves the kitchen. Travis starts to clean things up as the lights dim. Music.
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Scene 6: Total World Domination
A brisk spring day. Helen and Paige stand outside near the arrivals gate at the airport. They blow into their hands and stamp their feet. The whoosh of airplanes can be heard.
Paige: Why is it we must meet him at the airport?
Helen: He's on a tight schedule, I guess. He gave very specific instructions. I wasn't about to question them.
Paige: Is he coming home with us, or —
Helen: I'm not sure. There he is.
A man in a Russian fur hat enters.
Physicist: You are on time. This is most excellent.
Helen: Thank you so much for agreeing to meet us.
Paige: Can we, perhaps, go and sit down together —
Physicist: No, this location is serviceable.
Helen: Okay, well why don't you tell us a little about yourself?
Physicist: Here, I have photograph. Myself as little baby. You may keep.
Helen and Paige lean over the picture.
Helen: Awww. Very cute.
Paige: This must be your maman holding you?
Physicist: No. This is wet nurse in Mother Russia Young Physicist Training Facility.
Helen: Yes, you mentioned you were a physicist in your message. Maybe you could tell us about your work.
Physicist: Black hole physics, yes. I make superconductor simulations embedded in flat space. I propose new type of ultralight particle forming halos supported by the quantum uncertainty principle.
Helen: Wow. That sounds . . . Wow.
Helen elbows Paige.
Paige: Impressive. Very impressive.
Physicist: Quite standard, actually, compared to former research. But we dispense now with pleasantries. I go to produce required material. You will kindly have transcripts ready for my return.
Helen: Transcripts?
Physicist: You both completed university training, yes? My requirement for distribution of genetic material is that you score in top ninety-five percentile. Equivalent of your North American A+. I am not wanting to mix my genetics with inferior specimens. Kindly produce documents to prove your intelligence level.
Helen: We don't have any documents with us.
Physicist: Most inconvenient. My flight departs at two p.m. Ah.
He whips out a notepad and sketches.
I now pose you theorem of moderate difficulty. You have solution by the time I have sample . . . no problem.
He hands the theorem over to them and leaves.
Helen: He didn't say anything about a test!
Paige: What does that mean, "inferior specimens"? Is he going behind a pillar?
Helen: Could it be a language problem?
Paige cranes her neck.
Paige: I think it's a bigger problem — he's a crackpot!
Helen: Very smart people, I have noticed, are often quite odd. Let's just ask him some more questions. Meantime . . . here, you better do this.
She slides the notepad paper over to Paige.
Paige: No, you.
Helen: I'm not touching it. You're math girl.
Paige: Normal math, not black hole physics!
Helen: Try. Write something!
They throw it back and forth. The Physicist returns and Paige quickly writes down an answer.
We just wanted to ask you: Why do you want to be a donor?
Physicist: It is most efficient. Statistically speaking, I would never have time to personally impregnate all of the women who now have borne me children.
Paige: All of the women? How many are there?
Physicist: Two hundred and thirty-nine this year.
Helen: This year alone?
Physicist: Total number of known progeny since I begin experiment is two thousand seven hundred and twenty-one.
He reaches inside his jacket pocket, and Helen and Paige both take a step back.
But we waste time. Sample is getting cold.
Paige: Why do you do this?
Physicist: Covert distribution of superior genetic footprint. End result: total world domination. But don't worry about that. Very cute babies. Look at photograph.
Paige: I don't think we can be a part of your experiment.
He is examining the theorem on the notepad.
Physicist: Unfortunately, you are correct. Three? The answer you propose to theorem is three?
Paige: Oui?
He does a little bow.
Physicist: It is my disappointing duty to inform you that you are not viable subjects. I now proceed to Cincinnati to next potential vessel. Goodbye.
He gives another little bow and makes an abrupt departure.
Helen: Nice to meet you too.
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Hey...1967..you're driving me nuts trying to think and remember that far back! LOL
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if you can remember the 60s man you weren't there!
|9 years ago. Rating: 1
Hey daren1 you got that covered!
Yeah..I hear ya!
Daren1 I remember everything about the 60's "Man" I wasn't born is 1967 I graduated HS in 67 so there.
Do have the answer to my ques?
|9 years ago. Rating: 0
iwas born in "61" acctualy i think i fell out, but was the song turn,turn,turn or somthing to that effect
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10. If you're calling an emergency service, firstof all, give them your address. Only after that should you explain the reasonfor your call. In this case, even if something (or somebody)forces you to end the conversation, the operator will already know where to send help.
11. If you get disoriented after diving and can'tfigure out which way you should swim to get back to the surface, exhale. The bubbles will start to rise, and all you'llhave to do is to follow them.
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13. If you're crossing the road and see a brightsun reflection on the windshield of the oncoming car, chances are the driver won't see you. Let them pass, even if, according to the roadrules, you have the right of way.
14. Always plug your nose when you jump into alake or a pond from high up, feet first. The water could be swarming with dangerousone-celled animals, and the most horrifying among them is something known as the "brain-eatingamoeba." If you don't plug your nose, this amoeba canget into your nasal cavity with a powerful stream of water. From there, it can reach your brain, and,as you may guess from its name, this won't end well. On the other hand, if you simply swallow thisone-celled organism, it won't harm you whatsoever!
15. If you find yourself in a situation whereyou can only get out of your car through the window, grab the heaviest thing you can find,and aim for the edges of the glass, not the center. The windows are most vulnerable in the corners.
16. It may sound bizarre, but a bottle of watercan actually start a fire if it stays under direct sunlight long enough. In this case, the bottle will act as a lens,gathering all the heat in one spot. Never leave bottles lying around in a caron a sunny day, and keep them away from windows at home.
17. If you find yourself face to face with a tornado,and it seems to be hovering over the same area, it's most likely moving toward you. Choose an upright standing object and focuson it. If the tornado isn't moving to the left orto the right of the object you've picked, it means it's moving either toward you oraway. Don't take any chances: run to the side ofthe monstrosity's path.
18. A metallic taste in your mouth while you'rein a large body of water, or in a swimming pool screams danger. It means that somewhere around, there'san electrical short circuit. Immediately get out of the water: if you touchthe source of this short circuit, well let's just say they don't call it Fryday for nothing.
19. If your car skids, you can regain controlof it by steering in the direction of the skid rather than against it. On top of that, the risk of flipping yourcar will be lower in this case. But the main thing: never slam on the brakes!
20. Admittedly, the chances that one day you'llfind yourself sinking in quicksand are pretty low. But if it ever happens: first of all, throwaway all your belongings to make yourself lighter, all the while taking tiny steps backtoward solid ground. However, if you've already sunk waist-deep,carefully lie down face up, as if you were floating on water. It'll disperse your weight and help youto stay afloat. After that, begin moving toward "the shore,"very slowly and with the help of only your legs. Don't hurry; this process often takes hours.
How about you? Have you ever used any survival tricks toget out of a dangerous situation? Let me know down in the comments!
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Born 1 April 1716 at Efail-fach, Cil-y-cwm, Carmarthenshire, son of Rhys and Anne Lewis. Little is known about his early days. He worked as a circulating schoolmaster in various places in Carmarthenshire and Cardiganshire between 1757 and 1775, and references to his industry as a teacher are found in Welch Piety. In 1770 he was called by his contemporaries 'a Methodistical preacher,' and his will makes it clear that the Methodist society was his spiritual home. Towards the end of his life he lived at Cwm Gwaun Hendy, Llanfynydd, and he was buried in Llanfynydd churchyard, 9 August 1779.
He published his first collection of hymns, Golwg o Ben Nebo, ar Wlad yr Addewid, from Farley's press, Bristol, in 1755, and this was followed by Cascliad o Hymau [ sic ] (Carmarthen, 1757) and Casgliad o Hymnau, etc. (R. Thomas, Carmarthen, 1760); Golwg o Ben Nebo (2nd imp., Thomas, Carmarthen, 1764); Golwg ar Ddull y Byd, etc., 1767; Golwg ar Ddinas Noddfa (which includes an elegy on the death of Ester Siôn of Llansawel), 1770; Griddfanau'r Credadyn, 1772; Griddfanau Credadyn (a different book) c. 1774; Y Frwydr Ysprydol (jointly with Thomas Dafydd), c. 1772-4; and Golwg o Ben Nebo (3rd imp., Ross, Carmarthen, 1775). He also published a number of elegies: Marw-Nad: … Lewis Lewis … Llanddeiniol (which includes some hymns), 1764; Marwnad … rhai o Weinidogion ffyddlon yr Efengyl (Howell Davies, William Richard, and Siôn Parry), 1770; and Hanes Byr o Fywyd … Morgan Nathan, yn Llandilo-fawr (including hymns by Morgan Rhys and M. Nathan), 1775. His hymns are characterized by profound spiritual experience, and he always gives a prominent place to the person of Christ. Examples of his work are to be found in every collection of Welsh hymns.
Published date: 1959
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tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post24960738252818394..comments2020-07-02T12:26:02.272-07:00Comments on dangerous idea: Why not? Victor Repperthttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-66975181990940709282015-11-18T13:32:35.423-07:002015-11-18T13:32:35.423-07:00B. Prokop, the last time an atheist used that ridi...B. Prokop, the last time an atheist used that ridiculous line on me, I simply agreed with him that atheists' reasoning capabilities were indeed infantile. Pissed him off, but he dropped that line of "reasoning" immediately afterward.Legion of Logichttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-23077468029525458142015-11-18T13:28:15.577-07:002015-11-18T13:28:15.577-07:00Let me make something clear. There are ways on the...Let me make something clear. There are ways on the atheist side of keeping things civil. Before I ran into new atheists I had many, many, respectful discussions with nonbelievers, and that includes passionate nonbelievers. What I have noticed, and it's something I trace back to Dawkins, is a shift in the nature of the discussion. I remember being surprised by it in a couple of discussion groups I got into before I even opened this blog. There are people on the other side who see the disagreement between belief and unbelief to be not just a debate but a war, and who want to mobilize a people who use ridicule, not in a offhanded way, or a way that is aimed at entertainment, but aimed at providing people with a social, not an epistemic, motivation for abandoning belief based on fear of ridicule. This ridicule is not for the benefit of the believers they are debating. They are written off as hopeless. No, it is used as a tool to demotivate religious belief amongst the low-information believers in the flock, who might be influenced by "naked contempt." Your debating partner is a pawn in a game, the end justifies the means.

Now, it is quite true that Christians have not always, historically, been willing to leave an open marketplace of ideas and have not always treated nonbelievers fairly. How Christians got to the place where there were willing to use the power of government to uphold their beliefs raises some difficult questions. I think the lessons of history have taught Christians, the hard way, that using force on behalf of one's beliefs is a self-defeating enterprise.

Violence on these matters is only possible when it looks to us as if our cause will benefit from it. Even if I decide that Dawkins is the worst influence on society possible, it would be silly to kill him, that will prove his point on a number of issues and benefit his cause. But even if that were not the case, it would violate the teachings of my religion to kill him. That was an important part of my point, that the failure to engage or not engage in violence is partly a function of what one sees as useful, and this is true of both theists and atheists. One response to the recommendation that the Pope be assassinated in the name of atheism would be that it doesn't work. But that better not be the only reason.

I am willing to ask anyone who thinks whether one believes or not really matters, what means they are willing to use to get people to get the right answer. The charge I am responding to is the charge that RELIGION leads to violence. The road to violence, however, is open to everyone. I think, if anything, Christianity has some safeguards that limit the damage, which may be why, as Dinesh D'Souza points out, the death tolls are actually lower in the religious cases. For Christians, it is hard to argue that the end justifies the means, that the course of history is really in our hands. My claim is that you get ideological violence when you have the power to commit it, when you think the end justifies the means, and when you really think it will benefit your cause to commit it.

When I hear that religion is a mind virus, when I hear that everything depends on curing that mind virus, then I have to wonder what means are NOT acceptable in achieving that goal, should the opportunity arise. That is the basis of what I said here. Victor Repperthttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-27340306238129585382015-11-18T11:27:49.504-07:002015-11-18T11:27:49.504-07:00Prokop: "I am pleased, however, by your not g...Prokop: "I am pleased, however, by your not going along with the demonstrably silly assertion that we are all born atheists."

To be clear, I believe we are born not capable of "believing" anything. Belief, in the way we think of a belief in gods, is probably years down the road from birth. So I see the point in saying we are all born atheists (we don't have any belief about god), but as always the reality is slightly more complex than that simple sentence.

Prokop: "The past will repeat itself."

No, but it will rhyme.Anonymoushttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-3453145855577768322015-11-18T10:56:10.781-07:002015-11-18T10:56:10.781-07:00"Stalin is the intellectual forebearer of Daw..."Stalin is the intellectual forebearer of Dawkins in the same way that Vlad the Imapler is the intellectual forebear of Pope Francis."

Like I said. The denial continues, and no lessons learned. The past will repeat itself.

I am pleased, however, by your not going along with the demonstrably silly assertion that we are all born atheists. That particular trope, besides being ludicrous on the face of it, was getting a little tiring.B. Prokophttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-80504456431447886042015-11-18T10:41:47.487-07:002015-11-18T10:41:47.487-07:00Me: "And that's the principle problem I h...Me: "And that's the principle problem I have with this post -- rather than ask that question in a open-minded and non-judgmental fashion, it serves up the "question" as an accusation. That's not really the stuff that encourages a productive dialogue."

Prokop: "We have no need to "imagine" the worst from atheists. We've seen it, time and time again - made worse by the total failure of contemporary atheists to own up to the crimes of their intellectual forebears, thus practically guaranteeing that the past will simply be repeated."

Stalin is the intellectual forebearer of Dawkins in the same way that Vlad the Imapler is the intellectual forebear of Pope Francis.

Prokop: "I would have a lot less concern about atheists in power if only they'd come clean and admit that their philosophy (or lack of one) was directly responsible for the deaths of tens, if not hundreds, of millions of people in the past century, and for blighting the lives of billions more."

This would maybe have some weight if you could explain how atheism is a philosophy, rather than a conclusion reached at the end of investigation. This would maybe have some weight if you could explain how it is that so many atheists fail to do what Stalin did. This would maybe have some weight if you could explain, in a way that isn't a fallacy (No True Scotsman, Special Pleading, Ad Hoc, etc.) how it is that Christians and other religious believers haven't wrought great misery while supposedly benefiting from their philosophy.

Prokop: "Then there'd at least be hope that they'd learned a lesson from past mistakes. But as it is, I don't see any lessons being learned."

You are correct; from my vantage point, I don't see any lessons being learned. But I suspect that you don't see what I see.Anonymoushttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-39397729547042174812015-11-18T10:32:07.768-07:002015-11-18T10:32:07.768-07:00oozie, You comment reminds me of a passage from G...oozie,

You comment reminds me of a passage from Graham Greene's novel The Power and the Glory. The main character is passing by a cemetery where the gravestones had been defaced by atheist revolutionaries. All the crosses and figures of angels and saints had been knocked down, chiseled off, and/or smashed. He thinks to himself:

"It was odd - this fury to deface, because, of course, you could never deface enough. If God had been like a toad, you could have rid the world of toads, but when God was like yourself, it was no good being content with stone figures - you had to kill yourself among the graves."

One of the most powerful passages in literature I've come across in a long time.

Jezu ufam tobie!B. Prokophttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-5179002685307583112015-11-18T10:22:23.983-07:002015-11-18T10:22:23.983-07:00" [atheism] is typically a position that is r..." [atheism] is typically a position that is reached at the end of a process"

Amazing! Can we now stop hearing that "We're all born atheists!" nonsense?

"each side imagining the worst from the other"

We have no need to "imagine" the worst from atheists. We've seen it, time and time again - made worse by the total failure of contemporary atheists to own up to the crimes of their intellectual forebears, thus practically guaranteeing that the past will simply be repeated. I would have a lot less concern about atheists in power if only they'd come clean and admit that their philosophy (or lack of one) was directly responsible for the deaths of tens, if not hundreds, of millions of people in the past century, and for blighting the lives of billions more. Then there'd at least be hope that they'd learned a lesson from past mistakes. But as it is, I don't see any lessons being learned.

Jezu ufam tobie!B. Prokophttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-46471698342235247142015-11-18T10:14:54.776-07:002015-11-18T10:14:54.776-07:00Some people committed violence. We must make sure ...Some people committed violence.
We must make sure this does not happen again.
These people justified their violence by appealing to religion.
We must get rid of religion.
Wait, maybe it was just that religion. Some people of that religion seem OK.
Wait, maybe it was just a fundamentalist version of that religion.
Yea, that's it.
Let's get rid of all fundamentalist version of religions.
Wait, some of those seem OK. It's just the ones that think that they are right.
Wait, everyone thinks they are right, otherwise they would change their mind.
Yea, lets get rid of everyone who thinks they are right.
Wait, do we think we are right?

oozzielionelhttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-35321072296228470202015-11-18T09:57:38.713-07:002015-11-18T09:57:38.713-07:00Yeah, I think this kind of question makes an apple...Yeah, I think this kind of question makes an apples and oranges mistake; Christianity isn't just a belief in gods, it's a belief in Yawheh, and the holy spirit, and Jesus, as described in the bible, and as interpreted over 2,000 years by various institutions, etc. It's a belief in a god(s), PLUS all the other entailments from that belief.

Atheism is less than all that -- it's just a lack of belief in any gods. So, all that other stuff that comes pre-packaged in Christianity has to be filled in by something else -- and by something else everyone usually means a set of norms (morality, rituals, etc.). Complicating the story of atheism, however, is that atheism is typically a position that is reached at the end of a process, a journey from inheriting a set of societal superstitions, adopting a skeptical and evidence-based approach to reality, and discovering that the inherited superstitions are only founded in the collective imagination. So I get it when the religious object to the definition of atheism as just being a lack of belief in gods, because so many of us grow up in a society where the de facto inheritance is one of religious indoctrination first.

The best thing I can say about this post (despite it's gratuitous disparagement of the Dawkins variety atheists) is that I think it's fair to ask, if you don't subscribe to a set of norms as prescribed by (the usually Christian) religion, then how do you subscribe to any norms, and what are they?

I don't have a problem with that question, and I think it's a responsible one. I think that at its heart the rancor in these debates is based on a mutual fear about morality and behaviors, with each side imagining the worst from the other. And that's the principle problem I have with this post -- rather than ask that question in a open-minded and non-judgmental fashion, it serves up the "question" as an accusation. That's not really the stuff that encourages a productive dialogue.
Anonymoushttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-40650097968985420022015-11-18T08:56:30.020-07:002015-11-18T08:56:30.020-07:00"What possible reason do we have for believin..."What possible reason do we have for believing that Christians, especially of the Pope Francis variety, would resist the use of power and even violence to promote Christianity if the opportunity would arise?"

Excellent question, Cal.

One "possible" reason is that, were anyone to act in the manner you described (as, sadly, all too many have so acted from time to time), he would be acting in a manner directly contrary to the explicit and specific teachings of the New Testament, as well as ignoring the clear and unambiguous example of Christ Himself, who went without protest or resistance to His death at the hands of the 1st Century's ruling alliance of "church and state".

By contrast, what is preventing the atheist from acting in such a manner? Please don't tell me it's somehow against the principles of atheism to do so, because every time someone dares to say "this is how atheists think", we're always met with a barrage of "atheists don't think like anything! We have no dogma, no holy books, no authorities! There are no principles of atheism!" But if that is true, then there is nothing to prevent atheists in power to behave howsoever they please.

There's your desired distinction in a nutshell. Christians do have something to motivate them against behaving tyrannically - atheists have nothing.

Jezu ufam tobie!B. Prokophttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-81299588044938129692015-11-18T08:12:06.223-07:002015-11-18T08:12:06.223-07:00If this post poses a valid question, I have anothe...If this post poses a valid question, I have another to add:

"What possible reason do we have for believing that Christians, especially of the Pope Francis variety, would resist the use of power and even violence to promote Christianity if the opportunity would arise?"

Anonymoushttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-59622640301538173352015-11-18T07:16:21.516-07:002015-11-18T07:16:21.516-07:00Sure. So it's a lousy, mudslinging argument an...Sure. So it's a lousy, mudslinging argument and both sides should abjure it?

Fully agreed, although as far as I can tell the entire New Atheist movement is based on that argument. If they had to truly concede the vast spectrum of beliefs and practices contained within "religion", they could not possibly have a single argument against everything "religious" except that they personally are not religious and therefore religion has got to go.Legion of Logichttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-7816532185410316542015-11-18T07:02:23.432-07:002015-11-18T07:02:23.432-07:00Brightly: "I'll single out Legion's &...Brightly: "I'll single out Legion's '...try using the exact same tactic to...' as it's quite explicit, but Cal does likewise. This is fighting fire with fire and utterly counter-productive. Try fighting fire with water."

?Anonymoushttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-89958504387400113792015-11-18T06:48:07.439-07:002015-11-18T06:48:07.439-07:00@Bob, the OP said atheists "of the Dawkins va...@Bob, the OP said atheists "of the Dawkins variety."

By atheists "of the Dawkins variety" I thought the OP meant people who are educated in science, write books, and speak publicly. Atheists "of the Dawkins variety" are distinguished by their use of speech and persuasion and argument.

The men you describe are megalomaniacs, with little education, who rule by fear and force.

The dictators you cite are the opposite of atheists "of the Dawkins variety."
Anonymoushttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-57594435143321181722015-11-18T06:02:01.571-07:002015-11-18T06:02:01.571-07:00Sure. So it's a lousy, mudslinging argument a...Sure. So it's a lousy, mudslinging argument and both sides should abjure it?David Brightlyhttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-29468976885209618962015-11-18T03:56:14.185-07:002015-11-18T03:56:14.185-07:00Grodrigues is correct. I was not using the tactic,...Grodrigues is correct. I was not using the tactic, only pointing out that anti-theists love to use it but then cry foul if it gets turned on them. Legion of Logichttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-38098224240517626702015-11-18T03:56:06.873-07:002015-11-18T03:56:06.873-07:00Grodrigues is correct. I was not using the tactic,...Grodrigues is correct. I was not using the tactic, only pointing out that anti-theists love to use it but then cry foul if it gets turned on them. Legion of Logichttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-62596620635004944252015-11-18T03:38:06.215-07:002015-11-18T03:38:06.215-07:00@Legion of Logic: " I'll single out Legi...@Legion of Logic:

" I'll single out Legion's '...try using the exact same tactic to...' as it's quite explicit, but Cal does likewise."

You did say you were joking, but I will still say that that is not what Legion of Logic is doing -- or at least that is not how I am reading him. LoL (to keep it short) is making a logical point: the same logic that leads Dawkins to pronounce the moral equality of all religious people on account of the bad actions of a few, should lead him to pronounce all atheists as morally deleterious on account of the actions of stalwart humanitarians like the Dear Learder Stalin or Chairman Mao. But Dawkins rejects such a sweeping indictment -- in other words, he is being inconsistent in his selective application of principles.

On a lighter tone, as a European, and despairing of Europeans, I sure wished we could import some of those fundamentalist Americans; we could use a bunch.grodrigueshttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-52178213795679840732015-11-18T03:22:23.218-07:002015-11-18T03:22:23.218-07:00I sometimes despair of you Americans. How on eart...I sometimes despair of you Americans. How on earth are you going to fulfill your manifest destiny as defenders of the free world (ie, we decadent Europeans) if you descend into this kind of mutually assured victimhood? You are like children squabbling in the playground. Miss, Miss, look what Johnny's elder brother did to my elder brother! I'll single out Legion's '...try using the exact same tactic to...' as it's quite explicit, but Cal does likewise. This is fighting fire with fire and utterly counter-productive. Try fighting fire with water.

Joking aside, Victor asks, What possible reason? A suggestion: Dawkins was at one time a university teacher with some power over his students. As far as we know this power was not abused, say in blighting a budding Christian zoologist's career by deliberately marking them down. Same for Dennett if he counts as of the Dawkins variety.

Back to joking. Commenters here can't decide whether atheism is dangerous or ludicrous. If you want to contain its influence yet keep your society healthy, then stick with ridicule. Ditto theism, mutatis mutandis.David Brightlyhttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-28792675227748818662015-11-17T21:01:17.069-07:002015-11-17T21:01:17.069-07:00UnkleE, It's what they did in the Soviet Unio...UnkleE,

It's what they did in the Soviet Union during the Brezhnev era. Instead of sending dissidents to labor camps as counterrevolutionaries, they declared them to be insane, and confined them to (so-called) mental institutions.

And atheists still have the nerve to claim they have nothing in common with the Communists!

Jezu ufam tobie!B. Prokophttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-47453137213574563382015-11-17T20:39:23.693-07:002015-11-17T20:39:23.693-07:00I don't really like to get involved in these &...I don't really like to get involved in these "find the worst example of the opposing opinion and imply that they are all like that" games, but these words by John Loftus (reporting Peter Boghossian) may be alarming or just laughable, depending on how you take them:

religious faith is a mind virus .... heal our society from our faith pandemic

Treat faith as a public health crisis. Two words: "contain" and "eradicate." We must do this with ethical and Constitutional concerns in mind, he says. Rather, "interventions need to be designed that counter the spread" of the virus. Our "containment strategy should promote the 'value' of believing on the basis of evidence."

Finally, remove the religious exemption for delusion from the 'Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders' (DSM). He says, "There is perhaps no greater contribution one could make to contain and perhaps even cure faith than removing the exemption that prohibits classifying religious delusions as mental illness."

In some ways, wanting to remove your opponents from the public discussion by classifying them as mentally ill, when all the scientific evidence shows that religious believers have better mental health than non-believers, and John and Peter's remedies are the very worst way to deal with genuine mental illness, is surely only a little less dangerous than what you are talking about, and more insidious.unkleEhttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-10289344827065611862015-11-17T20:31:58.226-07:002015-11-17T20:31:58.226-07:00Oh, I know, Legion. As amusing as the irony is how...Oh, I know, Legion. As amusing as the irony is however, in the end it's not funny - it's quite tragic. Until you own up to your own failings or to those of your compatriots, there is no hope of not repeating those failings. The fact that atheists stubbornly refuse to admit their culpability in the mass murder of tens of millions and the blighting of the lives of billions more in the past century, means they will cheerfully do it all over again in this one.B. Prokophttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-54086265534362196572015-11-17T19:21:15.824-07:002015-11-17T19:21:15.824-07:00B. Prokop, You will quickly be pounced on as bein...B. Prokop,

You will quickly be pounced on as being an unfair meanie for trying to equate bigots like Richard Dawkins to communism. I notice that atheists say "religion" so they can equate Christianity with Islam whenever Islamic terrorists strike, but try using the exact same tactic to equate New Atheist anti-theism with communist anti-theism, or even left-wing secular progressivism with left-wing secular communism, and suddenly you're committing a fallacy. Hilarious and pathetic.Legion of Logichttps://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-73137845386709158632015-11-17T19:14:47.766-07:002015-11-17T19:14:47.766-07:00Many prominent atheists would love for religious b...Many prominent atheists would love for religious beliefs to be classified as mental illness that needs to be treated. They would love for it to be illegal for parents to teach their children anything religious in nature. They may not (yet) resort to physical violence, but their Dear Leader Dawkins actively encourages them to verbally bully Christians to intimidate "fence sitters" into the atheist camp.

Anti-theists are not good people.Legion of Logichttps://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-10584495.post-87027210487356557912015-11-17T18:46:17.112-07:002015-11-17T18:46:17.112-07:00"When's the last time we read these headl..."When's the last time we read these headlines?"

Ohhh... I guess the last time was when we read such things as "Millions imprisoned in Soviet Camps for refusing to renounce faith in Christianity" or "Worship Kim il Sung or die!" or "Maximilian Kolbe murdered at Auschwitz". (Oh, I guess that one didn't make the news. Didn't prevent his canonization, however.)

Cal, seriously. Name ONE TIME when atheists have seized the reigns of power in a state and the world was not treated to yet another bloodbath ... (thought you couldn't).

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