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Thursday, 30 April 2009
Leabank Square Extremely Disappointed with Olympic Architects!!
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Sometimes you're a bit too restrained you know?
Why didn't you write what we really said about this lump of dog mess? Swear-words & all!!
How can this architect even call themselves that? Isn't there an Intitute of Architects that we can repot her/him to? Aren't they absolutely ashamed of the thing they created?
Are they seriously going to be proud of coming to visit Hackney Wick in years to come with their grand-children - and saying that they designed it?!?!
- 30 April 2009 at 15:53:00 BST
Yeah Sóna - I remember the words at our meeting being a bit fruitier when describing this white elephant.
But I also remember what you once said about the kids on the purple Hype! bus reading & commenting on this blog - so fair dues.
Did you mamange to find out just who the architect/s for the cenre are? Is it not possible for us to write to them asking if they could come down & meet us for a look-see chat?
Please could you ask the lot you talk to about the name & adress for the architect?
- 30 April 2009 at 17:58:00 BST
Hi Shona
If we were across the canal from Hampstead Heath or Wimbledon Common - they would have been to scared to design something like this!
But it's only Hackney Wick - so let's lay a tower block on its side and the scum locals will absolutely love it!
Mind you - if we were next to Hampledon - they wouldn't have got hold of Arena Fields in the first place!
- 30 April 2009 at 23:42:00 BST
RIBA - Royal Institute of British Architecture - blogs are at http://www.ribablogs.com/
Tell them what you think.
- 2 May 2009 at 11:50:00 BST
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- 2 May 2009 at 11:58:00 BST
Back in 2005 the Guardian's architecture columnist Dejan Sudjik wrote an article for the Observer "
Building an Olympic vision - It's not enough to put on a memorable Games: the structures left behind should look to the future too"
You should be able to contact him via
or the main Guardian / Observer switchboard: 020 3353 2000
Another person who might be interested is the anti-carbuncle protestor. Prince Charles has just engaged battle with RIBA again, this time over the way Richard Rogers and all the other elitists are destroying the Thames riverside with their luxury pads for the super-rich (social housing tacked on for planning permission). He might well be interested in another bit of architectural contempt for the public.
There's a contact form at his website but to get an individual response you need to wirte a letter to
HRH The Prince of Wales
Clarence House
London, SW1A 1BA.
Good luck!
- 2 May 2009 at 12:23:00 BST
By the way, feel free to amalgamate all my comments together in one, and then delete this one.
- 2 May 2009 at 12:25:00 BST
One last word - remember - Gordon Brown, Meg Hillier and friends were responsible for giving them that license to moon at you. They're accountable.
- 2 May 2009 at 12:29:00 BST
Why do they treat us as irrelevant nuisance neighbours - when it's THEM that needs to get a better architect in to leave us a decent legacy?!
How do they expect any media comapany to want to take over a building that looks like THAT after the games?!
I mean - are they not even slightly EMBARRESSED showing the world that block of nothingness?!
Do they even know that the WHOLE WORLDS media is going to come & laugh their heads off at this joke of a building?
- 12 May 2009 at 12:34:00 BST
Hey Sóna
Check out the current 'Ackney Today - you'll see good ol' Jules Pipe joining in the debate as well.
Apparently he's taking a stand too. He wants a re-think on the design before they start cladding it.
Dirks right about them thinking they can only get away with it 'cos it's us working clarses what live opposite it - we're not likely to kick up a fuss now are we?
Well - thankfully they can't hack into our secure site to see what kindoffa fuss we ARE gonna create!
Ms Purple
- 13 May 2009 at 17:09:00 BST
Can't you make some noise at that Wick Partnership do you keep going to?
That would be the perfect platform to kick & shout - all them big wigs you get coming to see you lot.
We need a much better bunch a buildings than what they showing us just now!
- 18 May 2009 at 13:42:00 BST
Hi Sóna
What was that irritating noise about all of last night?! Why was the engine left on ALL the way through the night? It wasn't particulalry loud - but HUGELY irritating!
I kept waking up thinking I should give them a call, but drifted off to a light sleep - only to start the whole prcess again - at least twice an hour.
Needless to say I'm about to cycle to Vauxhall with hardly any sleep in my head! Please could you find out what happened today, and ask them to sort it out?
Thanks Paul
- 19 May 2009 at 07:50:00 BST
Paul, check out the World Environment Day posting to see how it also kept others in our block up the whole night as well. Sóna DID call TWICE(!) and some idiot told him that nothing has changed for 6 weeks. They are trying to make out as if WE are going mad.
SOMETHING has changed! We might have heard a very low rumble all night for months now - but this WAS different! It was definetly an engine without ANY mitigating noise reduction.
I called Hackney Council last night but can't get through this morning to see what they thought last night. Paul, please next time, get out of bed, and CALL. We can't ignore these irritants, they WILL only push the boundaries more next time, more the following, and so on!
- 19 May 2009 at 08:14:00 BST
You'd better check out what the students are planning with the Hackney Gazette. Please get some answers from the ODA & phone the digs flats up to put out some fires!
I know they're peed off about not having peace & quiet to write dissertations - but they could seriously mess the environment projects up for us.
- 19 May 2009 at 14:20:00 BST
Hi again Sóna
I know we only spoke a few minutes ago, but I've just seen the revised plans submitted for the IPC/MPC and there is no improvement whatsoever!
Please - I implore you - make as much noise through the council as you can. Like you - I want my family to live here for many decades to come - and we simply cannot have a set of buildings like that as our legacy!
- 20 May 2009 at 20:35:00 BST
You know - Owens absolutely right! Meg Hillier should be making noises about the ODA dropping another million tons on concrete & glass on Hackney Wick!
Until the next election - she is the elected representative for the Wick - and it is her responsibility to fight our corner!
She needs to be dumping on top of the ODA's heads from a great height about the legacy value of the design of this building!
I know we are going to have an independent MP after the next election - but for now - she needs to make sure she won't be forever remembered as the MP who oversaw this fiasco!
- 21 May 2009 at 10:32:00 BST
But Max - you've forgotten just how useless she actually is!
Log on to the secure email system to see just what we are doing about her & seperately about this giant clinic.
- 21 May 2009 at 13:32:00 BST
Hi Sóna
If we ARE stuck with this crap design - then its a scandal!
But if we ARE - then it ALL comes down to cladding again I'm afraid.
Why were they so dismissive about living walls? We have got to push this with them. If we ARE to get a box - then at least lets make it either blend into the riverside landscape with plants - or soften the edges AGAIN with plants!!!
We must push this at every opportunity we get from now on!
- 22 May 2009 at 14:07:00 BST
Hello Sóna
I don't ever recall saying I was 'extremely dissapointed' with the design of the IPC.
I recall screaming about the witless architects, I remember shouting at all attendees about Hackney Wick being an afterthought yet again, I most definetley used all the colours of the rainbow speech describing just what I thought about this giant abandoned fridge of a building!
Extremely Dissapointed just does not cut it I'm afraid!! Could you not start up a second Leabank Square Blog where we ARE allowed use language that shows each other JUST EXACTLY how we are all feeling?
- 22 May 2009 at 15:38:00 BST


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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:25 am
Post subject: Ribs for rookies
I used your recipe to make ribs at home for the first time and they worked out great. The family raved about them.
Thanks for sharing your hard work.
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:44 pm
Post subject: Mmm mmm Ribs
I'm on my 2nd go around today using this method for Ribs. I had never BBQ'd ribs before and found this site about a month ago, the ribs turned out pretty tastey (though I didn't love the cut of meat.) So now I'm trying to educate myself about where to find better cuts of meat, really need to find an actual butcher around here, and ready for round two!
Thanks for the very thorough walk through and the pictures are outstanding.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:22 am
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This is my first time making ribs and I plan on using this recipe this weekend.
I was wondering what temperature the grill should be at? I have a 3 burner gas grill with a built in thermometer. Low, medium, or high heat could also help. I am worried about over/under cooking the ribs.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:44 am
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Anonymous wrote:
This is my first time making ribs and I plan on using this recipe this weekend.
I was wondering what temperature the grill should be at? I have a 3 burner gas grill with a built in thermometer. Low, medium, or high heat could also help. I am worried about over/under cooking the ribs.
Go low. If possible put the ribs over an area where the burner can be turned off and use indirect heat. Don't worry about undercooking - just keep them cooking until the meat shrinks back from the bones and a thermometer registers somewhere around 180F.
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:08 am
Post subject: bbq ribs
Wow, thank you for this. Been a while now, and your still getting comments! Good job!
Anyway, having scorched every attempt at BBQ ribs, I thought I'd try looking up a method on line and found yours! It was an eye opener. I loved the descriptions and pictures, and I just realized it is on a site titled Cooking for Engineers! That explains everything! As a former mechanical engineer, and now working in the field of Metrology, I was thinking to myself as I read it, this is the kind of guy we need working for us writing calibration procedures for ISO certification, haha.
This sounds great, cant wait to get started, thanks again.
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:55 am
Post subject: dry ribs
Hi Everyone,
I just bbq'd babyback ribs in the smoker for the first time. Smoked it 2 hours with rub, then 2 hours in tinfoil at around 225-240F, and 1 hour to dry. It came out a bit dry for my liking. There was still a bit moistness but not enough. What is happening? Are my temperatures too high? The internal temp of the ribs when i measured it last was 197F. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:28 pm
Post subject:
at 197'F the meat was definitely overcooked.
the usual recommended temp for pork is 160'F - but I hardly ever go that high, as I prefer a moister cut.
too high a temp -
too long -
time&temp are related - and certainly smoking in the rub warmed the meat - the 225-240'F temp works for me, I'd check the internal temp at about 45 minutes and see how the ribs are doing.
good luck!
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:50 pm
Post subject: Temp
After you smoke the ribs and put them directly onto the bbq with bbq sauce, do you you increase the temp or leave it the same?
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Temp
kara123 wrote:
After you smoke the ribs and put them directly onto the bbq with bbq sauce, do you you increase the temp or leave it the same?
I usually increase the temperature on the grill to thicken up the glaze quickly.
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:41 pm
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Thanks for the recipe. I was doing home improvement, forgot about the sauce, and over-reduced it by a bit. I still liked it, although I might tweak it a bit. Maybe a tiny bit more molasses and less tomato or ketchup? I love the spiciness.
The grilling technique worked well for me. Just under 2 hours. Still getting used to my new BBQ. Seemed to cook a little more at the top that the bottom, so I flipped in rib rack halfway through.
My BBQ thermometer said 240 and my surface therm said about 225. Got some smoke from my box for a while but then I left it and I think it stopped. Need to maybe move my smoker box directly over the flame.
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:11 pm
Post subject: BBQ Spare Ribs
I have cooked (or tried to,) Spare Ribs many times on the propane Webber BBQ and have had mixed results. Mostly not good, over / under cooked and always charred.
Yesterday I used a slight variation of this recipe and the results were spectacular ! I used a rub (no hot spices, wifee can't handle anything hot) Please no jokes.....
, then smoked the ribs for about 2 hours with apple / hickory chips mix in an electric smoker 170*(Big Chief) then tented them with aluminum foil on a raised cake cooling rack on a cookie sheet with apple juice underneath, in a 300* oven for 2 1/2 hours. I slathered them with homemade BBQ sauce for the last hour uncovered, which set the sauce to a rich sticky glaze. Removed them and wrapped them tightly in the foil I used to tent them. Let stand for ~45 minutes.
The best ribs I've ever cooked, maybe the best I've ever eaten. Firm Juicy Satisfying Meaty Smokey & Sweet, everything you look for in a good rib.
Superb, simply Superb!
Thank you for sharing your recipe, It's very similar to the one found in "The Best of the Test Kitchens" cook book. Awesome book BTW.
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:40 pm
Post subject: BBQ Pork Ribs
For a quick (30 mins) rib, coat well with Worchester sauce, broil till lightly browned in oven at 450F. Cook in pressure cooker for 20 mins.
Coat with BBQ sauce, my favorite is Honey Chipotle, broil at 450F until tinged with dark edges. Eat and enjoy. (Microwaved jacket potatoes to accompany are just fine)
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:23 pm
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Anybody old enough to remember what Mom's pork ribs tasted like 50 years ago?
OMG, please go to
Their heirloom pig strains go back to the Spanish colonization of America. They're also allowed to forage and pasture. Want to impress? Most of you have never tasted pork like this. Pork used to have a good deal of fat. These ribs do also.
BTW, the pork chops will bring tears to your eyes. No, I don't work there. Anyway here's how I do my ribs as of today:
Bradly Smoker - set to 230 degrees - two hours worth of hickory briquettes. Vent wide open.
Pull ribs from refrigerator and apply your favorite rub. I use Jack's Old South.
Let ribs come to near room temperature with the rub on them. No, I don't take the membrane off the inside.
Put ribs in heated smoker and walk away for 3 1/2 - 4 hours. Yeah, just walk away. There is so much fat on these, that it's much more difficult to dry them out.
If you insist on sauce (I just use it for dippin'), sauce and re-heat in oven broiler or on the grill. Not too hot, you don't want to burn the sugar in the sauce.
Prior to finding this pork, I'd tell myself every time I went for BBQ in a restaurant, "I can make ribs as good as these (maybe)." Now, there's no doubt, I can make ribs better than I've ever tasted in a restaurant. I have to admit, I've never had them in St. Louis or Memphis though.
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:21 pm
Post subject: what if you don't have wood chips for ribs
I don't seem to have any wood chips and would still like to grill the spare ribs I have. Other than not having a smoky flavor, will this work? Should there be any changes to the recipe?
THis looks amazing and can't wait to try it.
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>>will it work
yes - no problem.
the "flavor" wood chips bring the smoke-taste - but not much heat/etc.
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I've been promoted twice at the firm and now have a pretty good job. My advice if you want to pay off your loans is to get the highest-paying job with overtime you can find, keep your cost of living low (I commute over an hour to work in each direction) and don't count on anyone to bail you out. If you pay them off quickly, you can then be free to get your dream job by age 27 or so.
To pay off my debt, I would make multiple payments per month, regardless of the bill's due date. If I felt like I had a spare $20, $50 or $100 in my bank account, I went ahead and made an online payment. It was so easy, and it was an instant confidence boost as I watched the balances decrease!
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GAO Report Debunks Anti-OHV Myths
Editorial by Brian Hawthorne,
BRC Public Lands Policy Director
Each year, wealthy, private foundations give over 10 million dollars to so-called "environmental groups" for the purpose of eliminating vehicle-based recreation on federal, state and private lands. It is difficult to describe to the average OHV user just how much power and influence that kind of money can buy. That kind of lobbying power can produce congressional hearings and government studies designed to support your legislative agenda.
In the last year alone, both the U.S. House and Senate held hearings on the rising use of OHV and snowmobiles on public lands, and this last June, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a report on, you guessed it, the rising use of OHVs on public lands. The report is titled: Enhanced Planning Could Assist Agencies in Managing Increased Use of Off-Highway Vehicles.
The anti-OHV lobby is hoping that this report, along with findings from the hearings, will be helpful in advancing their aggressive legislative agenda for the rest of 2009 and beyond.
I admit to being biased, but I'm not sure these wealthy foundations are getting their money's worth. While the GAO report contains plenty of anti-OHV bias, it's hardly the manifesto for closure the anti-OHV lobby was hoping for.
The GAO report actually de-bunks some anti-OHV myths. For example, "user conflict" is often cited as a serious problem on public lands. Turns out, incidences of actual user conflict occasionally or rarely occur.
Do you suppose the foundations funding these anti-OHV lobbyists will ask for their money back?!
In all seriousness now, it's the American taxpayers who should ask for their money back. Despite the shocker that user conflict isn't that big of an issue, the single most striking thing about this GAO study, to me anyway, is that it's strikingly similar to an OHV study completed over 30 years ago, in 1986. Ditto for a similar study completed in 1996. Ditto again for the Bureau of Land Management's OHV "strategy" in 2001.
For more than three decades, we have been studying OHV use and coming to the same conclusions and recommendations! Solutions to OHV management issues are known, yet few offices are actually doing the work. A key finding in one of the studies may indicate why this is so.
In 1986, the Chief of the U.S. Forest Service requested an agency-wide assessment of OHV use. This report, which really should be required reading for any federal land manager who has anything to do with OHV recreation, noted three distinct types of "management attitudes" toward OHV people.
The "Type A" management recognizes OHV use is appropriate in certain places within the National Forests and makes a positive effort to provide opportunities for meeting those needs. "Type B" attitudes reflected a bias against OHV use. "Type B" management actions are characterized by strong emphasis upon elimination or control of use with closures and law enforcement programs. "Type C" attitudes describe management that gives only passive attention to OHV use, often for lack of knowledge about management techniques, lack of money, or the existence of other pressing priorities.
The 1986 review also found that the internal bias against OHV use was frequently expressed in the application of double standards, i.e. OHVs are monitored much more closely and are more frequently restricted than other uses causing equal or greater resource impacts.
Nobody should be surprised the GAO report confirms what we've already known for decades. That active management works. That protecting the environment and providing for OHV use is not mutually exclusive. That claims of user conflict and environmental damage are vastly overstated. And that when push comes to shove, the OHV community has shown themselves to be credible partners to the federal land managers, providing everything from funds to volunteers to leadership in outdoor ethics.
"Highlights from GAO Study on OHV Use"
"What GAO found"
The report, titled Enhanced Planning Could Assist Agencies in Managing Increased Use of Off-Highway Vehicles, was requested by Arizona Representative Raúl M. Grijalva, Chairman of the House Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands. The report is available online at: http://www.gao.gov/Products/GAO-09-509
The report makes four recommendations: The first recommendation is for the Forest Service to identify additional strategies to achieve the agency's goal of improving OHV management, as well as time frames for monitoring progress of OHV plan implementation. The second is for the BLM to enhance the agency's existing "Priorities for Recreation and Visitor Services" by establishing performance measures and time frames for carrying out its stated goals for OHV recreation. The third recommendation is for both agencies to enhance communication with the public about OHV trails and areas through, for example, developing user-friendly signs and maps to improve visitors' experiences. The fourth is for BLM and Forest Service to examine fine amounts across various U.S. district courts to determine the range of fines for OHV-related violations and petition appropriate judicial authorities to make modifications where warranted.
Points to Ponder...
Fully fund it or don't allow it
The anti-OHV groups are pushing for a requirement that OHV use be fully funded or the trails not be designated as open to OHV use.
The GAO report states:
In addition, a majority of officials reported they cannot sustainably manage their existing OHV use areas; sustainable management would include having the necessary human and financial resources to ensure compliance with regulations, educate users, maintain OHV use areas, and evaluate the OHV program.
The anti-OHV groups will attempt to use Each year, wealthy, private foundations give over 10 million dollars to so-called "environmental groups" for the purpose of eliminating vehicle-based recreation. That kind of lobbying power can buy you congressional hearings and government studies designed to support your legislative agenda. BRC's Greg Mumm regularly travels to Washington D.C. in order to give the other side of the story. this statement to advance their 'fully fund it or don't allow it' standard. OHV users must point to the fact that this statement is true for any program in any federal land managing agency. Whatever the program; wildlife, infrastructure, capital improvements, roads maintenance, even maintenance of Wilderness trails, the sentence is true for every one of them.
Such a standard should be applied across the board. It is not fair to apply it just to one user group. With the exception of sportsmen, OHV users are the only user group who stepped up to the plate and taxed ourselves, via OHV registration fees, to help pay to maintain our trails.
Increasing fines
The GAO recommends BLM and Forest Service examine fine amounts across various U.S. district courts to determine the range of fines for OHV-related violations and petition appropriate judicial authorities to make modifications where warranted. This is a reasonable recommendation; however, we maintain OHV users, who often supplement law enforcement with OHV registration dollars, want the enforcement to be effective. Increasing fines alone will not do the job. A state-by-state approach is important here because law enforcement on federal lands is often performed by a variety of agencies, including federal, state, and county law enforcement officers.
Repeat a lie often enough...
The GAO report misstates a statement made in 2004 by then Forest Service Chief Dale Bosworth:
"In fact, in 2004, the Forest Service Chief identified unmanaged motorized recreation as one of the top four threats to national forests... "
Actually, Chief Bosworth said "unmanaged recreation," not "unmanaged motorized recreation," is one of the four threats.
Displacement means "mitigate first closure last" approach best
GAO says:
In addition, officials at two field units we visited said they have seen an increase in OHV use on their units because of OHV closures on nearby state and private lands. For example, Park Service officials from Big Cypress National Preserve said that both private and public lands in South Florida have been closed to OHV use, leading to increased OHV use in the preserve. Similarly, Forest Service officials from the Tonto National Forest said that OHV use has increased since the state of Arizona closed lands near Phoenix to OHV use in an effort to reduce dust pollution.
The amount of closures has reached a critical mass. Each trail is now much more valuable. Closures mean displacing and concentrating users, resulting in more, not less, environmental damage.
Management works!
The GAO report found that management actions such as signing, maps and user involvement works.
For more information and links, visit: www.sharetrails.org/public_lands
BlueRibbon Magazine, September 2009
Interesting read Merrick...
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Thanks, Merrick!! We will circulate this article in our neck of the woods.
Patti Pyland
Deschutes County 4-Wheelers
Oregon Executive Director Staff
PNW Forum Leader Team Member
Region 6 Delegate
Bend, Oregon
So I kind of read, even though the "anti's" are giving away 10s of millions we are still getting noticed as responsible?
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In reality, pandemics could cripple local economies, national economies, and even disrupt global commerce. Given its mission to help prevent poverty around the world, the World Bank sees the gap in nation-level insurance as a huge potential liability that the world cannot afford. To that end, the World Bank has shifted from its normal role as lender to insurer.
The World Bank announced its Pandemic Emergency Financing Facility (PEF) during the G7 ministers meeting in Japan. The Facility will make funds instantly available to help prevent the spread of infectious diseases, thus saving lives and money.
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Ebola was once a huge problem across Africa. It was eventually contained, but that came at a very high economic cost. Out of the 28,000 people that were infected, 11,000 died in countries like Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. Donors spent an estimated $7 billion fighting the infections, with the first $100 million of that not actually used until October 2014 after more than 5,000 people had already died.
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