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Im gonna be like you, dad. You know I'm gonna be like you."
I doubt if there are many parents who can listen to Harry Chapin sing "Cat's in the Cradle" without a shiver of emotion. Whether present or absent, loving or rejecting, fathers have a tremendous influence on what their sons grow up to do and be.
Consciously or unconsciously, a son learns from his dad about work, money, family, relationships with women, and with other men, as well as how to make his way in the world. For good or ill, he will bear the effects of this experience for the rest of his life.
There is good news for fathers who fear they were less than perfect as a teacher or role model when their sons were children: Paternal influence is a lifelong force. "Fathering doesn't end when a son is 21, or 41, or even 61," says Neil Chethik, an author and speaker specializing in men's issues, in "Fathers, Sons, and Loss: What We Can Learn" (UU World, Jan./Feb. 2001). "Throughout our lives, right up until the time of our deaths, we fathers can deepen our relationships with our sons, even when a positive father-son connection failed to form during the son's childhood."
Good fathers provide love and affection, acceptance and respect, and kind and firm limit-setting, so their sons learn the boundaries of acceptable social behavior. They support their sons' unique gifts, values, and personalities, giving up their desire to be validated by having them follow in their own footsteps. This kind of relationship helps a son develop his own healthy autonomy and self-respect, so he's not dependent on his dad's stamp of approval to know that his own life choices have merit.
In this process, both father and son must care for and communicate openly with each other. This helps them learn from each other, in the best possible sense of the word, as men who share mutual respect.
"Just Like You, Dad"
Outside of his clinical setting, a surgeon I know appears very imposing, cool, and remote. But with a patient, he miraculously transforms into the most sensitive guy you can imagine. I was amazed to learn that three of his children had also become physicians or surgeons and had joined his practice. The father smiled happily when I commented on this, and his nurse whispered to me, "He never pushed this on any of them. It's astonishing!"
In families where a father clearly loves his work and is good at it, it's actually not that surprising if his sons (and these days, daughters too) want to follow his example. Unfortunately, a father's bad habits are just as likely to imprint on the younger generation. For example, sons whose fathers are slaves to work may grow up to be workaholics themselves.
Ted Klontz, a life skills coach in Nashville who leads workshops to change people's relationships with money, told me that he was raised on a farm by a father and grandfather who felt that anyone who didn't toil day in and day out was lazy. He grew up believing that if he worked hard enough, the money would take care of itself. As a result, he didn't save much and did no financial planning. In fact, he became what I call a "money monk," believing it was grasping and miserly to think about money.
Vowing not to be like his father, Ted's son Brad paid off his student loans as quickly as possible, saved like a demon, and invested as much as he could in the stock market. After years of building a career as a clinical psychologist with a number of diverse specialties, Brad realized that he had become like his dad, after all. Like Ted, he was working 80 hours a week.
By communicating honestly and vulnerably, and "walking their talk" as they teach others how to have a healthier relationship with money, Brad and Ted have been able to bring about powerful changes in themselves. Ted now pays attention to his finances and has developed a more balanced life. Brad is cutting down his work schedule to spend more time with his fianc?(C)e and other loved ones. They're an inspiring duo: a self-aware father and son who are working to correct imbalances in their lives by practicing the non-habitual and communicating positively with each other.
Fathers and Sons
Fathers' expectations of their sons can lead to instances where the son feels not-good-enough, no matter how successful he is. A West Coast financial planner told me that he had just earned CFP certification when his father inherited a million dollars. Instead of trusting him with this money, his father invested it with two brokers. Not only did the two charge exorbitant fees, but they mismanaged the funds so badly that the $1 million eroded to $350,000. After the young planner got over his hurt feelings, he kept trying to advise his father on how to invest more sensibly. To this day, he told me, his dad refuses to give him any respect or credit for his professional expertise, and persists in trusting the questionable competence of the two brokers. In this case, it's starkly evident that the dad's distrust hurt him as well as his offspring.
When you encounter a situation where a father is reluctant to trust and respect his son, anecdotes like these may be useful in educating your client. In some instances, you may be able to intervene with specific advice.
For example, Rich Colman, a principal in the Colman Knight Advisory Group in Carlisle, Massachusetts, told me about a business-owning client who was convinced that his newly graduated son would never succeed in the company. The son, a "social worker-type" in his dad's eyes, hoped to travel in Europe for a while before going to work for a multinational corporation like GE.
Colman suggested that since the client's company imported items from Taiwan, he could send his son to work in that end of the business. The job would allow the young man to travel, while saving the company $250,000 a year. The son was game to try it, and his dad hesitantly agreed. The upshot was that during the three years the client's son spent in Taiwan, he became fluent in Mandarin Chinese and developed skills that complemented his father's. The company's sales tripled, profits zoomed, and now the father and son are business partners. The happy father describes his son as "different from me, but just as effective."
Some fathers refuse to give up authority even if their son's expertise in a particular area is greater than their own. Part of your task is to help sons like these claim their own authority despite their father's failure to acknowledge their gifts. At the same time, you can try to encourage stubborn fathers to let go of their pride and arrogance and be more open to their son's unique qualities.
Absentee Dad Syndrome
When a boy mouths off, acts out, or otherwise rebels against authority, a dad who puts in 70-hour weeks at the office might be tempted to say to the mom, "Don't blame me for the way he's turned out. I wasn't even here!" But growing up without the presence of an accepting, supportive father can cause as many problems as anything a more involved mother may have said or done.
In a landmark Psychology Today article titled "Fathers & Sons" (September 1993), Atlanta psychiatrist Dr. Frank Pittman observed that when the Industrial Revolution made it necessary for someone to leave home to work, it was the father who usually ended up bringing home the bacon. Often coming home only at night and on weekends, these "provider" dads became less and less involved in parenting. Instead, they found other roles in the family, such as disciplinarian ("Wait till your father comes home!") or audience ("Tell Daddy what you did today").
Dr. Pittman believes that many fathers have become so fixated on succeeding at work that they have "moved out" of the house emotionally. I would add that divorce, separation, and non-negotiable job pressures swell the ranks of absentee dads. This leaves many sons with what Dr. Pittman calls "father hunger," longing for a closer physical and emotional connection with their dad.
In short, he suggests that the traditional patriarchal presence, which overwhelmed and intimidated sons for millennia, has over the past 200 years become a deficiency in many families: "too little father." Instead of fearing an all-powerful sire, today's sons are more likely to long for their father to love them, bond with them, teach them, and give them approval and validation.
Money and Masculinity
To make up for their absence, some dads overgive money to their sons, though cash is always a poor substitute for time. In many cases, it also leads to boys growing to adulthood knowing that they're expected to be good at managing money, without having had any fatherly coaching on how to do it.
Recent research confirms my clinical experience that young men learn about money mainly from their fathers. There are exceptions, of course, if Dad is absent too much or Mom is the family's primary money manager. But as a rule, sons are deeply affected by their father's views on finances.
These lessons can start at a relatively early age. Rick Kahler, president of Kahler Financial Group in Rapid City, South Dakota, began giving his son Davin an allowance at age 3. At first, Davin spent the money every week. On one trip to a toy store, Rick said, they ran from toy to toy with Davin asking, "How much?" Rick would tell him if he could afford it or, if not, how many weeks it would take to save up the money. "We had many shopping trips that ended in tears as he painfully figured out that there was far more he wanted than dollars in his pocket," Rick says. "I'll never forget the first Saturday he walked out of the store, having bought nothing and with his allowance still in his pocket!"
Paul Feinberg, a retired tax lawyer and estate planner in Cleveland, saw that children of his wealthy clients were often totally in the dark about family assets, and he decided to make sure that wouldn't be the case with his two boys. Starting when they were in high school with a briefing on family assets and income, he progressed to regular meetings to discuss the family's financial status.
Paul viewed each stage in his sons' life as a learning opportunity. When each of them received an inheritance from their grandmother, he coached them about earmarking a small percentage for spending, while saving the lion's share for important long-term goals. In college, they were given each semester's expense money upfront to help them gain experience in budgeting. Now 36 and 31, his money-savvy sons also consult with financial advisors to ensure their plans are on track. With open communication and frequent family money meetings, Paul has helped them grow into knowledgeable financial consumers.
Money messages aren't always communicated through words. Some fathers simply live out their beliefs. Their children often grow up either imitating their behavior, or vowing to be just the opposite. Spender dads may have sons who are spenders or anti-spenders (i.e., hoarders). Workaholic dads may raise sons who either labor as they do, like Ted and Brad Klontz, or react to their work obsession by focusing instead on la dolce vita. The rebellious sons of overly controlling fathers may amass enough money to get out from under Dad's thumb, or develop a lifestyle that distances them from money as much as possible. "Like father, like son" is sometimes true, and sometimes just the opposite.
Man to Man
As boys grow into men, they struggle with asserting their independence while still yearning for their father's caring and protection. Since power in our culture often involves money, this ambivalence can show up in a variety of problems and issues that clients bring to your office. By thoughtfully probing the dynamics of the relationship, you may be able to help develop solutions that preserve the dignity of both father and son.
For example, when the two meet as adults, who pays? David Mermelstein, Ph.D., a fellow therapist and friend of mine in Bethesda, Maryland, described his almost comic dilemma when meeting his son Mark for lunch. David would offer to pay. Mark would insist on paying for himself. They'd go back and forth about it. Finally, David got the message. Instead of offering to pay at the end of the meal, he just sat there. So did Mark! After asking his son what was going on, the confused dad eventually uncovered the young man's mixed feelings: he wanted to feel and appear competent and self-supporting, but also liked to feel under his father's protective wing. They found a nonverbal solution: when Mark wanted to pay for himself, he would reach for his wallet; if he didn't, David paid. This gave Mark the flexibility to adjust his needs for independence and fatherly nurturing as time went on.
One of the most precious gifts you can offer a male client is your assistance in helping him forge a respectful and loving relationship with his son or father. When a father denies that his son has grown into capable manhood, the wounds can last for a lifetime. Whatever you can do to promote respect, acceptance, and understanding will gain you the gratitude of current and future clients in both generations.


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Ah, those amusing dating rituals. Will a sexy manicure attract a partner? Exotic perfume? Shiny new bling in a great house?
Those clever tricks aren't just for homo sapiens. The animal world is filled with creativity and lust in the love department. "When we go out and buy flowers, and chocolate, or a sappy card, it's really no different than a male bowerbird getting pretty objects for a nest to impress a female," says David Mizejewski, a naturalist with the National Wildlife Federation.
"When guys get all testosterone-y ... it's the same as a bull elephant," he adds. "We're not as far removed from animals as we would like to think."
In some species, the dating formula is simple. The biggest, meanest male rules. Big as in male elephant seals, which can reach 16 feet and 6,000 pounds. The bulls fight with each other until there's one "winner," who mates with any female he wants. Deer, monkeys and baboons follow similar patterns.
Other creatures are more subtle, and less sexist. "As a general rule, females have a lot more choice," says Mizejewski. "Males have to do these ritual displays, and the female gets to pick," he said.
Girls rule among painted turtles. The boys have long front claws. To show off to a female they fancy, the guy turtle will swim around and wave his claw in her face. If she's ready to mate, it's a date. But if she's not moved by his manicure, she simply swims away. Mizejewski said it's sort of like what a teenaged girl might do to a nerdy guy, communicating in no uncertain terms, "Get away from me, you annoying thing!"
And take those bowerbirds. Males are skilled carpenters and interior decorators. They could star in their pick of Do-It-Yourself cable shows. The male builds a stick structure known as a bower. Then he gathers some bling — shells, feathers, flowers, even human castoffs like string or plastic. Then, like a buyer scouting out a subdivision, the female gets to say, "I'll take that one!"
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Even as a young child, fall has always been my favorite time of year. I love the cool, crisp air, and it is a pleasure working outdoors.
As an adult and avid gardener, fall is still my favorite time of year, as I clean up the vegetable garden, perennial garden and the lawn – all the while planning for next year.
Here are a few outside tasks to complete in the next few weeks.
• Lawn – It is best to continue mowing your lawn until it is dormant. The last mowing should be at a height of 2 inches to prevent winter damage from snow mold or powdery mildew. Around Thanksgiving time is also an excellent time to apply a balanced (10-10-10) fertilizer. Timing the application just before a late season rain or early snow is perfect. The slow release of this fertilizer will get your lawn off to a lush start in the spring.
• Bulbs – Remember to lift tender bulbs and corns that are desired for next season. It is not too late to plant spring flowering bulbs. I still plan on planting Siberian Squill (Scilla siberica) which is one of my favorites. I love the little blue flower and the fact that they colonize over time. A little effort this fall will pay off with a fresh new look in spring.
• Perennial beds – You can leave perennials stand tall all winter. Echinacea and Rudbeckia provide winter food for the birds.
Remember to remove any diseased leaf debris from your garden and dispose of it – do not place it in your compost bin. Cut down any perennials that are self-seeding so they don't expand into unwanted areas. If there are vacancies in your perennial bed, make mental notes for new additions next year.
• Vegetable beds – If your soil needs a boost, till compost or leftover vegetable debris directly into the soil each fall. Dispose of diseased debris. Look for those straggler tomatoes and zucchinis that may have fallen to the ground to prevent too many volunteers next year. The enriched soil will be awaiting those seeds and seedlings next April.
• Tools – Be sure to remove all dirt from your tools with a wire brush. Check for any necessary repairs – loose screws or broken handles. Next, sharpen hoes, spades, pruners, and loppers. Wooden handles can be wiped down with linseed oil so the handles don't crack.
The final step is to spray all metal and cutting edges with a penetrating oil to prevent rust. If you decide to do any dormant pruning or cutting back of grasses and hydrangeas on a nice day in February, you will be all set.
This fall has seen a fair amount of moisture, but continue to monitor moisture levels until the ground has frozen. This is particularly important if you have planted new trees, shrubs, grass seed, perennials, bulbs, etc. By putting the garden to bed properly in the fall, it will awaken next spring ready to greet the new season with vigor.
• Vicki Hagstotz is a University of Illinois Extension Master Gardener for Kane County. Call the extension office at 630-584-6166 for more information.
Learning to Grow: Fall clean up and spring planning
Even as a young child, fall has always been my favorite time of year. I love the cool, crisp air, and it is a pleasure working outdoors.


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The New Republic has an interesting article explaining "How Campaign Finance Laws Made the British Press so Powerful." Basically, only British newspapers are free of regulations that suppress political speech. The author suggests adding more controls (including content restrictions) on the British newspapers to enforce "impartial" coverage. In other words, the media should be just as repressed as everyone else, and political leaders should be free of criticism.
Like many others, I have long thought that U.S. newspapers editorialize in favor of campaign finance restrictions to control competing speech and thereby become more powerful. After Citizens United, other organizations now enjoy the same First Amendment protections as media corporations like The New York Times and The Washington Post. No doubt that does mean such corporations are less powerful than they would be if campaign finance laws suppressed political speech that competes with their editorials and news reports. However, such competition is good for voters.


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Then those who gladly received his word were baptized.... And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers. (Acts 2:41–42)
Baptism and the Lord's Supper are the two sacraments of the Christian church. They are part of "the ordinary religious worship of God" (Westminster Confession, 21.5) and should occur regularly in church.
In our culture, we do not appreciate baptism nearly as we should. People in our nation often view baptism simply as a festive religious custom. In other cultures, however, baptism is viewed with a seriousness that is far more in line with the teaching of Holy Scripture. When individuals or families are converted from a background of Islam or Hinduism, for example, those around them understand their baptism as a death with respect to their former life. Those baptized are part of a new community, with a totally new allegiance. In some countries, this can bring serious negative consequences to those who are baptized.
The Scriptures do, in fact, teach that baptism marks the death of one's old nature and entrance to a new life in Christ (Rom. 6:3–4). Baptism also marks the one baptized as a member of the visible church and officially brings the person into fellowship with God's people (Acts 2:41–42). The person baptized is marked out as a disciple of Jesus Christ the Lord (Matt. 28:18–20). Indeed, baptism represents being united with Christ as surely as a bride's wedding garments represent her being married to a husband (Gal. 3:27).
For all of these reasons, baptisms are rightly regarded as part of our worship. In a visible way (because sacraments are "visible signs of invisible grace"), Christ shows the work of his kingdom in claiming individuals and families to be his. This should fill us with praise and fresh confidence in his saving work in human history. Likewise, the baptism of others is designed to remind us of our own baptism. It is a time to remind ourselves of Christ's goodness and mercy toward us. It is also a time to repent of our own sins against the meaning of our baptism, and to renew our commitments to Christ, our husband and our Lord.
The author is pastor of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, Franklin Square, New York. He quotes the NKJV. Reprinted from New Horizons, June 2008. First article in series. Index.
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From Tom Silverstein, here.
General manager Ted Thompson said the way the draft fell was the main reason the Packers wound up with two receivers, but the club clearly had its eye on going young because it signed three rookie free agent receivers shortly after the draft. The Packers had 13 receivers on the roster before Robinson's release.
On the Monday after the draft, Robinson's agent, Alvin Keels said, the Packers told him that Robinson would be on the bubble if he came to training camp and they asked him if he would like them to release his client. Keels asked them for permission to shop Robinson around the league for a trade, which he did, but ultimately a deal couldn't be reached.
"There are a couple of teams who are interested," Keels said. "They just weren't interested in trading for Koren, at least at the terms the Packers were seeking. The Packers wanted a draft pick and a couple teams were offering a player that the Packers didn't feel fit what they wanted."
Thompson said he felt Robinson could definitely be an asset with another team and he was fairly sure he would get a chance with another team. He said part of the reason to make the move now was so Robinson could situated with a new team quickly.
"I think a lot of Koren," Thompson said. "I'm very proud to be able to see him turn things around. He's a true professional. He helped us in the locker room. He helped the young guys learn to be pros."
Keels said Robinson was not bitter over his release and credited Thompson and personnel analyst John Schneider with saving his career. Both men had a relationship with Robinson from their days in Seattle and were willing to take a chance on him despite his troubles with alcohol.
Good (and fast) reporting on his release. I'm really pulling for the guy.


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SAN JOSE — Clobbered with a $1 billion jury verdict in August, Samsung got some relief in its legal feud with Apple (AAPL) on Thursday when a federal appeals court overturned an order that blocked the South Korean tech giant from selling the Galaxy Nexus smartphone in the United States.
The U.S. Federal Circuit Court of Appeals, a Washington, D.C.-based court that hears patent appeals, found that U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh had no legal basis to issue a preliminary injunction earlier this year against the Nexus smartphone. The decision allows Samsung to continue to sell the product while the patent battle with Apple continues.
The ruling came in the second of two lawsuits Apple has filed in San Jose federal court as part of its global patent showdown with Samsung. In a suit filed earlier this year, Apple sought to block sales of a series of Samsung devices, including the Galaxy Nexus, which is an older line of Samsung smartphone and has since been overshadowed by the release of the Galaxy S III.
The patent claims raised against the Galaxy Nexus, which allege Samsung infringed features on Apple's iPhone 4S, including the Siri voice option, are separate from the case decided by a federal jury in August. The jury sided with Apple in its first lawsuit against Samsung, finding that dozens of even older smartphones and tablets were copies of the iPhone and iPad.
Apple has moved for a permanent injunction against all those devices, a request that Koh will consider at a hearing in December.
The appeals court ruling only applies to Koh's decision in June to issue a preliminary injunction before a trial, but gives Samsung the right to continue to sell the Galaxy Nexus and provides much-needed legal ammunition in a battle with Apple that is likely to continue to make its way to the Federal Circuit.
An Apple spokeswoman declined to comment on Thursday's ruling.
Samsung appears to be faring better in the Federal Circuit than with Koh or in the jury trial. Koh earlier this month also dissolved another injunction against Samsung's Galaxy 10.1 tablet after the Federal Circuit indicated that order also had legal weaknesses.
Samsung has moved to set aside the $1 billion judgment, arguing that there was insufficient proof it trampled on Apple's patent rights on the iPhone and iPad. Among other arguments, Samsung says the jury foreman tainted the verdict by failing to disclose during jury selection his involvement in past litigation with Seagate and introduced his own experiences with patents.
Apple, meanwhile, is asking for permanent bans on the sales of Samsung products, as well as hundreds of millions of dollars in additional damages for the jury's findings of "willful infringement."
Apple shares closed down $12.81 Thursday, to $628.10 a share.
Howard Mintz covers legal affairs. Contact him at 408-286-0236 or follow him at Twitter.com/hmintz.


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Sony may have been a little late to the tablet game but its stand at CES 2012 showed that the company was thinking hard about how to make its tablets stand out from the crowd in the future.
One concept, which was shown off behind a case was a Sony Vaio tablet, complete with wireless keyboard. The tablet looked a little thicker than that of an iPad and had an oval shape.
The keyboard was backlit with glow in the dark keys. Interestingly, there was a Windows key on the keyboard, which would suggest that it will be a Windows 8 tablet.
A Sony rep told me that even though this was a concept, if it was launched then its looks wouldn't change all that much. They also explained that the back of the tablet has been designed to give you extra grip when holding the thing.
Sony also showed off another tablet which looked like an Eee Pad Slider – the keyboard dock however is actually detachable.
Both of these concepts have been given the Vaio branding which is also a sign they will be Windows 8 – as Sony's current crop of tablets, which run on Android, haven't been given the Vaio moniker.


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ENGLEWOOD — Even as Peyton Manning's right ankle throbs, the Broncos' front still is No. 2 in the league at protecting its quarterback.
Manning has been sacked 13 times in 372 pass attempts. Only Detroit's Matthew Stafford has been dumped less frequently with 10 sacks in 373 attempts.
The problem is the direction Manning's sack totals have been trending. He was dropped only five times in his first six games. In the past three games, he has been sacked eight times.
"It's part of football," Manning said. "Every week you go out and you never know what type of identity a game is going to take on. Everybody is fighting every single play to do their job and that's all they have to do. We'll have our hands full this week against these guys."
Indeed, here come the 9-0 Kansas City Chiefs with a defense that has a league-most 36 sacks.
It's getting to where Manning can't always practice. He participated in the Broncos' morning walkthrough Wednesday, but not the team's practice because of his troublesome high right ankle sprain. Manning initially suffered the injury in Game 6 against Jacksonville and it has been aggravated a couple times since then.
He took a particulrly forceful blow to the area just above his right ankle Sundaywhen he was hit by San Diego defensive end Corey Liuget late in the Broncos' 28-20 victory.
Manning is expected to practice today at the Broncos' Dove Valley headquarters and play Sunday night against the Chiefs.
"I know Peyton Manning and he'll be ready to go," Chiefs coach Andy Reid said during a conference call with the Denver media.
But after not missing a practice from the time he signed with the team in March, 2012 until Oct. 23, Manning has missed four in the past three weeks, including two during the bye week.
For a quarterback renowned for his preparation, missing practice is a big deal. He missed a Wednesday practice Oct. 23 before the Broncos' game against the Washington Redskins and seemed prepared well enough, throwing for 354 yards and four touchdowns in a 45-21 romp. Then he again he also threw a season-most three interceptions.
"I believe in practice, I believe there is a reason for it," Manning said. "So it's certainly my preference to be out there, but at the same time I'm trying to do what's best for the team and in order for me to get healthy."
As Manning walked to, and from, the podium for his weekly news conference, he did so without a limp. He reiterated his confidence in playing Sunday night.


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Why Do You Recommend Detoxing?
by Dr. Frank Lipman
Detoxing helps our bodies cope with the onslaught of toxins and stress which are an unavoidable part of modern day life. Boosting the detoxification system helps bring the body back into balance. It's an important first step in restoring function and getting the body back to optimal health.
Internally we harbor toxins produced by the billions of bacteria and other flora in the intestines as well as the waste products produced by the body's normal metabolic processes. And externally, our exposure to chemicals in the air we breathe, the water we drink, the food we eat, the personal care products we put on our skin and in household products is greater than ever. Our bodies are constantly neutralizing and eliminating all these toxins, that is, detoxing. It is a totally natural process. Just like with cars, our own internal engines are subject to waste build-up and can become sluggish over time – they both run better when clean.
So while we are obviously equipped to deal with low levels of some toxins, our bodies can become overwhelmed and overtaxed by the substantial increase in the number of toxins to which we are exposed.
If and when our own detoxification systems (predominantly the liver and the gut) become overloaded and do not function properly, toxins get stored in various tissues in the body, including fatty tissue. This prevents our system from functioning at optimum strength and efficiency and is a factor in the development of various chronic diseases, including cancer. Many of these external toxins or synthetic molecules are chemically similar to biologically active substances in our bodies and therefore easily interfere with our cell's normal activities. For example,
- Some interfere with our hormones
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- Some cause overstimulation of certain enzymes, others block their activity
A well functioning detoxification system that is supported nutritionally is essential to maintaining good health. I have been putting my patients on "detoxes" for the last 20 years and seen incredible results. An effective, natural, gentle detox program can help your body's natural cleansing ability and put you on the road to rejuvenation.


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13.14-Pound Bass Caught on Lake Palestine to Set New Record
Just a few weeks before we head out to Lake Palestine Resort for our Big Bass Bash, Sonny Booth already stole the show.
Booth, who lives in Chandler, caught that behemoth you see up there -- a largemouth bass that set a new Lake Palestine record on Saturday (March 2). The bass weighed in at 13.14 pounds, which not only set a new lake record, but also became the first ShareLunker bass to ever come out of Lake Palestine.
ShareLunkers must weigh at least 13 pounds to qualify.
Booth's catch, which was part of a five-fish stringer of 40.08 pounds, broke a 22-year-old record and almost to the day. Ronald Ebaugh caught a 12.51-pound largemouth bass on Lake Palestine on Feb. 22, 1991.
The Texas record for a largemouth bass was set in 1992 when Barry StClair caught an 18.18-pound bass at Lake Fork, also in East Texas. Seven of the 10 biggest bass in Texas history, including the top six, were caught at Lake Fork.
This looks to be some great foreshadowing of what we can expect at our first-ever Big Bass Bash, where the winner is guaranteed a top prize of $10,000. Click here for more information and find out how to register.


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On last night's two-hour season finale of Grey's Anatomy, Dr. Callie Torres (Sara Ramirez) finally kissed Dr. Erica Hahn (Brooke Smith). And Hahn kissed back.
The tension has been building between Hahn and Torres for the two episodes leading up to the finale, beginning with Addison (Kate Walsh) asking Callie if the two women were lovers. In last week's episode, Hahn kissed Torres to taunt resident playboy Mark Sloane (Eric Dane), but he wasn't the only one turned on, as a stunned Torres stumbled her way out of the elevator.
In the finale, Sloane, while having sex with Callie, describes an erotic fantasy involving Callie and Erica, and Callie quickly stops him. Later, when he sees Callie watching Erica intently while she's performing a surgery, Sloane busts Callie on her obvious feelings for Erica, telling her: "It's OK. I wish I was all someone thought about all day."
When they're leaving that night, Callie tries to entice Sloane to "finish what they started," but he tells her to finish what she started, and nods to Hahn. So Callie does, trying at first to tell Erica how she feels with words, and then finally just grabbing her and kissing her for a several seconds. They break apart for a moment to look at each other, then start kissing again.
(Thanks to Samantha for the screencaps!)
And with that, Callie became only the second bisexual Latina character on American broadcast television (the first was Anna on One Tree Hill).
Here's what the Grey's writers said about what to expect for next season:
Hmm. I like my TV dramas complicated, but I hope they understand that the most surprising development would be if the two women actually just had a romantic relationship — one with the usual ups and downs, but where neither one died, became a killer, decided they were straight, got raped, fired or became encased in cement. Because that just doesn't happen on broadcast TV.
Earlier this week, Smith told USA Today: "Seeing [my character] have a relationship with anyone is a good thing — and with Callie would be great. It's 2008 — time for all sorts of diversity. We have a woman and an African American running for president. Good for us!"
And Smith told Entertainment Tonight last night: "[Ramirez is] a great kisser … a very attractive woman. Who wouldn't want to kiss her?" Smith has played a lesbian character before (in a play with her Grey's adversary Sandra Oh years ago).
Ramirez created a Spanish-language PSA for GLAAD, which you can watch here:
I only understood the words "gay, lesbian, and bisexual" — but Sara could be selling gay Amway products in this video and I'd watch it.
For those of you picky readers who don't speak Spanish and want to know what she's actually saying, it's: "Hi, I'm Sara Ramirez. Discrimination and intolerance affects our families. What happens when that discrimination is against a brother, sister, niece, mother or uncle that is gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender … would you accept it? For a more inclusive world, say no to stereotypes and discrimination. For more information please visit the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation: glaad.org."
How do you say, "Sara is awesome I can't wait for the new season please Shonda don't mess this up!" in Spanish? Discuss this and other pressing Callie/Erica topics in the Callie/Erica forum thread. You can also watch the episode in full at ABC.com.
P.S. Did anyone else notice there was a commercial during the Grey's finale starring Ellen DeGeneres, and a different one starring Cynthia Nixon? If only ABC had thrown in Leisha Hailey's Yoplait commercial, it would have been an out-lesbians-in-commercials trifecta!
— by Sarah Warn


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text: Sijun Forums :: View topic - **Steb by Step!** Log in to check your private messages Sijun Forums Forum Index >> Archive : Sep99 - Dec00 View previous topic :: View next topic Author Topic : "**Steb by Step!**" Recifejunior memberMember #Joined: 30 Oct 1999Posts: 19Location: Brazil Posted: Thu Nov 04, 1999 4:49 pm Hey, just an idea: Everytime everyone in here makes a new picture, save it step by step , so we can see how everyone does it! (AGREE??) Back to top FunfetusmemberMember #Joined: 26 Oct 1999Posts: 343Location: West Covina, CA Posted: Thu Nov 04, 1999 5:38 pm I have this image saved in about 12 different steps...I'll try to post it later. ------------------ Funfetus iCE VGA Division http://www.funhousedigital.com Back to top AffectedmemberMember #Joined: 22 Oct 1999Posts: 1854Location: Helsinki, Finland Posted: Thu Nov 04, 1999 10:59 pm Well, I'm working on something new, and I have a preview of it after a couple of hours of work, so I suppose I could take a new pic of it now, and also demonstrate the grids I constructed to get the lighting right... ------------------ Affected http://affected.cjb.net Back to top tanismemberMember #Joined: 26 Oct 1999Posts: 207Location: Bergamo, Italy Posted: Fri Nov 05, 1999 4:33 am Affected -That would be really cool! Epeially for the lighting stuff. ------------------ C'ya! Valerio Santinelli a.k.a. TANiS email@example.com Back to top MongoosememberMember #Joined: 22 Oct 1999Posts: 363Location: North Posted: Fri Nov 05, 1999 11:19 am Funbaby! Please post that as soon as you can, I am dying to see how you draw... I'm a big fan /goose Back to top AffectedmemberMember #Joined: 22 Oct 1999Posts: 1854Location: Helsinki, Finland Posted: Fri Nov 05, 1999 1:49 pm Allright, I (sort of) finished the pic. I'm not sure I like it, but nevermind that. http://redrival.com/affected/phase/prev.jpg This here's the sketch-type thing, though at this stage it had been worked on for an hour or two. It has the elements and lighting in place. http://redrival.com/affected/phase/perspective.jpg This is the grid I used for the perspective and also to define the point of convergence for the lines used for gettin gthe perspective of the pool of light on the shadow right. http://redrival.com/affected/phase/shadow.jpg This is supposed to show how I approximated the shadow the man casts on the floor. The lines converge at a point I extrapolated by drawing two lines that pass through the lower corners of the window, and the corresponding corners of the pool of light. The green lines were used to define the height of each character. I would draw a line from the point of convergence for the pool of light shown in perspective.jpg and have it pass under, say, the center of the left foot. I would then draw a vertical line from that line, where the foot was, and had it end where I estimated, in this case, the knee was at it's highest, as these parts were pretty much on top of each other.I then drew a line from the light source to the vertical line, continuing to meet with the line passing under the foot. Thus I was able to see where the shadow would fall on the floor. I then repeated this where necessary. (The other knee etc.) http://redrival.com/affected/phase/bars.jpg This was simple. I drew vertical lines from the bars to the floor, and drew lines from the point of convergence of the pool of light to intersect the bottoms of the vertical lines. http://redrival.com/affected/phase/glowrefine.jpg The lighting done, I added some small details. http://redrival.com/affected/phase/final.jpg This is what I came out with. I added colour, and put some details on the walls. There's something odd about it, but I'm lost as to what to do with the image. ------------------ Affected http://affected.cjb.net Back to top CyberArtistmemberMember #Joined: 04 Nov 1999Posts: 284Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posted: Fri Nov 05, 1999 2:39 pm The lighting is a bit bizzare, not sharp enough around the mid area next to the character. The wall would also not be as bright as shown if the surroundings are as dark as they are. There's also a bit too much light reflected onto the back of the character. The shirt in particular has some highlights that are almost as bright as would be expected in full sunlight (or whatever light that is, since it doesn't seem to be sunlight). Also, the man's shadow has a bright streak in it. I understand why you'd put that there, but with the angle the light is coming from and the way he's sitting, the light would be blocked by his torso much close to the figure. The figure's shadow also seems to be drifting off to the right more than it should, just slightly. It looks like the shadow of the center bar is also showing in the wake of the man's shadow (next to where the bright spot is) which shouldn't happen with the way the figure is situated. There would be a slight bright spot in his shadow where the lighting is coming though between his right arm and body. You might want to play with adding a shadow onto the figure's left side where the bar shadows it. Heh, even with all your checking to make sure that the shadows where right, the perspectives on the shadowing on the bars and the figure are different, which seems to of messed you up a bit. Don't focus so much on getting the lighting "exact", since you will mess up sometimes, just try to make it look right. ------------------ -CyberA(rtist) aka Ben Golus Cyber... Back to top AffectedmemberMember #Joined: 22 Oct 1999Posts: 1854Location: Helsinki, Finland Posted: Fri Nov 05, 1999 2:45 pm Now THAT'S the kind of feedback I want to get. Useful! Hm. I think I actually accidentally erased a bit of the left side of the man's shadow... Oops. I'll look into your suggestions. Thanks! Back to top GuybrushmemberMember #Joined: 29 Oct 1999Posts: 176Location: germany Posted: Fri Nov 05, 1999 2:46 pm hey affected.. i think ur pic really kicks ass. nice work man.. as well as funfetus' pic. i hope i'll someday get at least half that good gt ------------------ Peace, Love, Empathy.. Back to top FunfetusmemberMember #Joined: 26 Oct 1999Posts: 343Location: West Covina, CA Posted: Sat Nov 06, 1999 1:58 am It turned out I had 20 steps saved of the Talarius image. I just put them up at http://www.funhousedigital.com/talarius_steps/ With my technique, I really don't know how useful this will be to most of you. My process also tends to change a lot with each image, so this isn't how I do everything. The first four steps are rough through refined sketches. On the fifth, I turned the "pencil" lines black, and did rough colors under them. Then on the next 15 images, I just went through and did finished painting, section by section. I hope this is useful to SOMEONE...at the very least, it makes a cool animation if you play them all through real quickly. ------------------ Funfetus iCE VGA Division http://www.funhousedigital.com Back to top wakestarrGuestMember # Posted: Sun Nov 07, 1999 3:59 am Funfetus, a question to your great step thingy: how many layers did you use? I looks as if it's only one layer... -wakestarr Back to top Recifejunior memberMember #Joined: 30 Oct 1999Posts: 19Location: Brazil Posted: Sun Nov 07, 1999 5:30 am Here goes my steps: http://www.gold.com.br/~recife/images/steps/ . #1 was a draw over my sketch lines (I really hate my sketches) and I used the line tool. In #2 I just colored the picture w/ plain colors. In #3 I used the Dodge/Burn tools and smudged some of the black lines.I really messed up at this stage, but I fixed it later! .In #4 I started to put some detail in the eyes and nose.I also smudged the shadows (dodge/burn) effects.For fixing the eyes and nose I just used the spray with very little opacity over the smudged lines and most times the spray was in "multiply". In #5 I fixed the other eye and smudge the black lines again. In #6 I made the hair using some "homemade" brushes and the smudge tool w/ fingerpaint ON! Used some spray too.I also tried to fix the eyebrowns but I think they pretty much suck! Well, thats it, hope it was usefull... Take care! -recife- Back to top MongoosememberMember #Joined: 22 Oct 1999Posts: 363Location: North Posted: Sun Nov 07, 1999 7:28 am Funbaby, I found that step-by-step to be very useful, especially in helping me understand how to create quality art in Painter. I've been using Photoshop almost exclusively for the past 4 years or so, maybe it's time I tried something new Keep up the great work. Mongoose Back to top wakestarrGuestMember # Posted: Sun Nov 07, 1999 3:41 pm I recieved Painter 6.0 a week or so ago. I've tried it a few times only to so get frustrated I've quit the program and started Photoshop. I'm not sure if it's due to me being PS poisoned or just stupid. But I really can't seem to get along with Painter. This really bugs me since Painter is supposed to be the more real-art-look-alike program. And since I started out with graffiti/airbrush/acrylics I'd love to get some more realistic results. Almost everything done in PS gets a kinda "plastic" "too smooth" feel about it in my oppinion... hmm guess I just gotta give painter some more time... any tips n tricks would be much appriciated! -wakestarr Back to top ShrimpishGuestMember # Posted: Mon Nov 08, 1999 12:09 am Hey Fetus, you rock, man! When I first saw that image, I could have sworn it was done in PhotoShop. Also, are you planning on making a full Painter tutorial? It would be a gem for avarybody here. =) Back to top FunfetusmemberMember #Joined: 26 Oct 1999Posts: 343Location: West Covina, CA Posted: Mon Nov 08, 1999 12:35 am Wakestarr: Yes, it is only one layer. In Photoshop, I end up using about 15 layers or so, but in Painter, almost all work is done right on the canvas...any "floaters" I use are very temporary. Mongoose: Glad it helped someone. Painter IS a really powerful program if you're willing to spend the time to figure it out, and develop a few techniques. Good luck! ------------------ Funfetus iCE VGA Division http://www.funhousedigital.com Back to top FunfetusmemberMember #Joined: 26 Oct 1999Posts: 343Location: West Covina, CA Posted: Mon Nov 08, 1999 4:35 am Yes, UNFORTUNATELY, it does look like it was done in Photoshop. :P It definitely came out too plastic-looking, which is my main gripe with most Photoshop stuff. I suppose if there's enough interest, I could do a tutorial on how I, at least, use Painter. Wakestarr -- Painter definitely takes a lot of getting used to if you're coming from using Photoshop for a long time. You really have to take a completely different approach to it. I suppose I ought to make at least a small tutorial to help everyone who's getting discouraged... To give you an idea, 99% of what I do in Painter is done using only the brush tool, and various brushes. I seldom bother with filters, layers, or any of that other stuff. Painter excels at being a simulation of traditional art media. But in traditional media, we don't have filters, layers, etc. But if you REALLY hate that new Painter 6, I'd be glad to take it off your hands for a reasonable price. :P ------------------ Funfetus iCE VGA Division http://www.funhousedigital.com Back to top MongoosememberMember #Joined: 22 Oct 1999Posts: 363Location: North Posted: Mon Nov 08, 1999 10:10 am Funbaby, Dude, I think it would be awesome if you could make a tutorial on how you go about using Painter. I for one would find it incredibly useful, and by the looks of all the other posts, I wouldn't be the only one. Of course, writing a tutorial is quite a time-consuming thing to do, so we can't be too greedy folks -- If you have time though, PLEASE DO!! :P Mongoose Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First Sijun Forums Forum Index -> Archive : Sep99 - Dec00 All times are GMT - 8 Hours Page 1 of 1 Jump to: Select a forum Digital Art----------------Digital Art DiscussionWork in ProgressGallery/Finished Work Miscellaneous----------------Random MusingsArchive : Sep99 - Dec00 You cannot post new topics in this forumYou cannot reply to topics in this forumYou cannot edit your posts in this forumYou cannot delete your posts in this forumYou cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2005 phpBB Group


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