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Re: Upgrade Support Charge?tidbits Nov 22, 2016 8:02 PM (in response to chris13)
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It was achange that happened roughly 2 months ago. Over the phone and in store sales there is a fee for upgrades.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?chris13 Nov 23, 2016 12:40 PM (in response to tidbits)
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Thank you tidbits and barcodeable. I honestly think this is a complete BS charge and it seems TMO is starting to act more and more like the typical "Carrier", than the "Uncarrier". I've stuck with TMO through thick and thin and stuff like this from companies to their most loyal customers is very irksome. And companies wonder why there is no loyalty anymore.
Off my soapbox now. Live and learn. Thanks again!
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?tidbits Nov 23, 2016 1:01 PM (in response to chris13)
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Have to consider this too. They need money and throwing all these perks isn't helping.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?barcodeable Nov 23, 2016 2:58 PM (in response to tidbits)
- Member Since: Sep 18, 2016
Throwing all these perks at the consumers does help T-Mobile make money.
#1. By getting a free phone or tablet over 2 year credit deal locks you to T-Mobile for a full 2 years.... so you won't be jumping ship to no other carrier anytime soon without losing all those free credits. And If you are happy with your plan and services there is no real reason to depart from T-Mobile.
#2. T-Mobile will be stealing so many customers from their competitors.... this is a Carrier War and T-Mobile has an unbeatable strategic plan that is working. The other carriers have to scramble to come up with a solution before all of their subscribers leave them.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?tidbits Nov 23, 2016 3:17 PM (in response to barcodeable)
- Member Since: Jul 15, 2011
barcodeable wrote:
Throwing all these perks at the consumers does help T-Mobile make money.
#1. By getting a free phone or tablet over 2 year credit deal locks you to T-Mobile for a full 2 years.... so you won't be jumping ship to no other carrier anytime soon without losing all those free credits. And If you are happy with your plan and services there is no real reason to depart from T-Mobile.
#2. T-Mobile will be stealing so many customers from their competitors.... this is a Carrier War and T-Mobile has an unbeatable strategic plan that is working. The other carriers have to scramble to come up with a solution before all of their subscribers leave them.
Let's consider this. Let's say that "free" promotion they make over the 2 year period $100 total. Do that to 50K people who took advantage of it that's $5,000,000 they got gross. Now factor in how much ut costs to put up a single tower (range can go as high as 5M to do so. The one near my house costed $7.6M the company I work for help build and get licensing for that tower, and is probably the best/strongest tower on the islands). Was it completely worthwhile? They yielding a marginal profit far less than Verizon's $33 per $100. They are making little to no money right now. This $20 fee is more than likely to help compensate the fact they make marginal gains.
Competition is getting cheaper sure, but if you notice the bigger companies are still more expensive and less perks because they know it isn't sustainable. There's only so far you can go with a 1-5% profit gains especially when new technology is around the corner. Legere knows it'll burn him later if he doesn't find ways to increase that profit margin. A lot of us talked about this over the past few years. We are starting to see it with the One Plan.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?stevetjr Nov 23, 2016 3:47 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: May 20, 2012
Yeah I just got hit with it also. My son's G4 which is owned and out of warranty just got the dreaded boot loop issue so needed a new phone for him. It is just him and me with no land line so going online and waiting a week wasn't an option since I can't have him without a way to call me or 911 god forbid.....
I used T-Force and got them to give me a credit for the $20. Argued I have been a customer for 13+ years and this was a little nit picky when I needed a phone immediately for which I was already paying a $40 premium because there was a web only sale that I couldn't take advantage of.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?barcodeable Nov 22, 2016 8:25 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Sep 18, 2016
I went to buy an iPhone SE from a T-Mobile authorised resseller and they didnt mention to me about an upgrade surcharge at all. I was concerned with them charging me $20 dollars for a sim card, so i explained and showed the customer service rep that i have 5 sim cards right here so please dont charge me for $20 dollars for a sim card. She laughed and explained to me that they do not charge $20 for simcards if you are upgrading your line. I was relieved they didnt charge me for a simcard I already have. Well anyway she gave me the phone and told me how much it would cost today $56 dollars. I paid it and I walked away.... but wjile i was sitting in the mall reviewing my receipt and i noticed a $20 charge with abbreviated symbols and words next to it with a statement displaying that i did not qualify for a discount. I quickly went back to the customer service representative approximately 25 minutes later and confronted her about the charge. I asked "Why was I charged $20 Dollars for a simcard when You told me because I was upgrading my phone the simcard was free?" her reply was, " you werent charged $20 for the sim card, thats a $20 upgrade fee" GOTCHA .
SHe never explained about this upgrade fee, she did not show me the receipt until after i paid and signed the electronic display panel. I felt like i was tricked. And as tidbits stated if you purchase a phone through the Tmobile 1-800 number you will be charged an upgrade fee or whatever else name they call it "UpCharge" or whatever..... They charge you this fee because you are getting help from an actual representativ, your best bet in the future will be to order it online yourself without chit chatting with a customer service representative. but if you purchase your phone through the website you will not be charged this fee. I see this fee as a way of making extra money.... i needed the phone and I didnt wanna return it because of the $20 fee... because if i ordered it online it would take a week or so to get it.... so im just $20 dollars lighter now....
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?magenta3272342 Nov 19, 2017 8:24 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Nov 19, 2017
If you purchase online, it doesn't have upgrading fee. Try to avoid T-Mobile retail store. Such a scam place, always pushing you for useless item. If you call T-Mobile, and told them online purchase does not have upgrading fee. They will waive that 20 dollar for being not honest.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?1957 Apr 11, 2018 2:57 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Feb 5, 2018
The Upgrade Support Charge issue happened to me as well. My Linkzone hotspot failed so I visited the local TMobile store to buy a replacement. After the sales rep checked the warranty and reported it had expired, he produced the replacement and rang up the charges. I immediately noticed and questioned the additional $20 fee. The rep explained that it was a normal fee and that was that. I bought the replacement but wasn't a happy camper. Considering I have 2 phones lines and 2 Linkzone hotspots supported by TMobile, you'd think they'd discount the fee or give me a better explanation. I hope they get a handle on this issue and billing practices or customers will start looking for other service providers.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?barcodeable Apr 14, 2018 5:23 AM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Sep 18, 2016
I have been a customer with T-Mobile for approximately 9 years, I kept me cellular plan with them since 2009 eventhough there wasn't even fair coverage in my area (the price was awesome / service was terrible) My phone worked in many cities near my home except for the inwhich i lived. Well anyway, I took advantage of the FREE Alcatel A30 Tablet promotion yesterday and was faced with a $40 upgrade charge because I bought two (2) tablet devices. I am happy about getting 2 FREE tablets that retail for $144 each, but im disappointed in having to pay $20 per tablet for a simcard I don't actually need because I have several valid sim cards already I can use.
$40 Bucks wasted
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?sphawk65 Jun 13, 2018 7:03 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Jun 13, 2018
From what I've read if you pay for any of their Jump plans this fee does not apply when you get a new device on the the same line, but if you don't, then you'll pay the "upgrade" fee. So either way they'll get their money, whether up front if you deal with a rep over the phone or in store without Jump, or over time from the additional Jump charges. I was told in store recently that they were able until recently to manually waive this charge, but not any more.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?gramps28 Jun 13, 2018 7:30 PM (in response to sphawk65)
- Member Since: Jul 15, 2011
I did the LG V30 bogo plan over the phone with a rep and they waived the upgrade fee and
tossed in next day shipping for free.
Also my call was routed to the Chicago team which made it local so I could understand their accents.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?magenta6146366 Sep 15, 2018 5:50 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Sep 12, 2018
A similar thing happened to me when I switched to T-mobile. The agent told me there were no charges the day I got the 2 phones. I find out a month later they charged me around $150 and T-Mobile won't do anything about it because I "willfully" signed the tablet when the agent told me the signature was just for future billing purposes.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?magenta6341271 Oct 1, 2018 2:17 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Oct 1, 2018
I walked into a T-Mobile store today to upgrade my mom's phone. I was surprised to be asked to pay $20 upgrade support charge. Both TMo associates told me there's no way for them to wave this cost. I just don't understand then why there's a store available in my neighborhood? As it seems a little unfair to punish me, a customer, walking into a physical store, talking to someone in front of me, and simply asking to upgrade a phone which that is part of the job??
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?-t---mobile- Oct 18, 2018 7:08 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Oct 2, 2018
I walked into a T-Mobile store today ready to buy a phone full out and was told about the "Upgrade Charge" of $20.
To claim that this "Upgrade Charge" helps support brick-and-mortar stores is a poor excuse. T-Mobile: you're taking advantage of people walking into your stores and slapping them with this absolute farce of a fee. I cannot believe that a $20 fee is anything but a meager chunk of change. Not only is it barely something to talk about but it's ridiculous and insulting to your customers. A $1/mo increase in every new plan will outweigh the stupid $20 Upgrade Charge any day. I've been a T-Mobile customer for about 13 years now and I've never felt like I was being taken advantage of than in the last 6 months. I'm sorry T-Mobile but you're making bad decisions and hoping that people stay complacent. Figure it out because people will vote with their wallets and go elsewhere.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?heycraig Nov 7, 2018 3:03 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Nov 7, 2018
I tried to purchase a OnePlus 6t at a store last night and was floored when they tried to tack on the charge. I can see why they'd charge someone without T-Mobile service this fee. It doesn't seem to make sense for customers. They are losing out on on keeping your roped into TMO service through EIP though. TMO doesn't charge the fee online for purchases outright, but they do charge shipping. OnePlus sells without fees or shipping charges, so maybe best to just order through them.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?midiman007 Nov 8, 2018 8:20 AM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Nov 2, 2018
Well T Mobile is becoming Time Warner cable to me. They are nickel and diming all there loyal customers. For those who do not know Time Warner Cable went under and got taken over by Spectrum, now Spectrum have gotten thrown out of NY State for not doing the right thing..
What upsets me is that there are two T Mobile stores one is a real T Mobile the other is a partnership. The True T Mobile stores are more apt at not charging you any fee's but the Partnerships stick it to you. So be careful they all say T Mobile on the store front but they all are not true T Mobile stores. Also to add I place a lot of blame on T Mobile for this, since they never let there customers know of the change in policy and second they do not openly tell there customers if the store you are in is a true T Mobile or not.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?barcodeable Nov 9, 2018 8:21 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Sep 18, 2016
Not too many people are aware of this little fact..... but Time Warner is owned by AT&T now... it's been renamed to Warner Media, LLC
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?magenta6779878 Nov 12, 2018 11:25 AM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Nov 12, 2018
I pay for the JUMP plan and was not able to purchase the new XR online using account as I am having issue with the account not being noted as the 'primary account holder' (its the only account - this makes no sense). After a few hours on calls and a ticket pushed through that has yet to be addressed I had to go into the store to get the phone as I was leaving for work travel for a few weeks.
Unsure of why I was charged this $20.00 as again I have paid for the monthly 'JUMP' program over nearly 3 years and am unable to upgrade and order online as there is account problems within their system that they are aware of and are trying to resolve. Anyone else have that same issues and is their a quick and effective way to receive a credit for this?
Charging a 'upgrade' charge when I am ordering a new phone through them - which means a customer guarantee for a further two years - is hardly the way to maintain customers. Are they going to manually 'sync' my new phone up and swap over the sim card to get it up and running - no. Is this charge trying to justify the two minutes the Employee in a store had to place the order - and should this not be covered as part of the service offerings you provide to Customers? This is by far a pathetic cash grab and will make existing Clients re-think who to go with as a provider.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?barcodeable Nov 12, 2018 6:16 PM (in response to magenta6779878)
- Member Since: Sep 18, 2016
i like myT-Mobile service... i just refuse to purchase any more phones if i don't need to.
1. The cost of phones are crazy
2. An upcharge is crazy
3. If i do buy an expensive phone just because it's the new latest and greatest... then i'm crazy.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?lobo69 Nov 23, 2018 10:18 AM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Nov 23, 2018
I also did not notice the Upgrade Support Charge for $20 plus tax until I got home after buying two iPhone XR phones and transferring to T-Mobile from Verizon. I signed for a credit card charge that the service manager informed me was for the taxes on the two phone, He did NOT mention the Upgrade Service Charge. I had to request a receipt as it appeared he was not going to offer one. The only "perk" one gets for buying a new phone is to allow one to pay for it in installments over two or three years with no interest.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?chris13 Feb 16, 2019 4:29 PM (in response to lobo69)
- Member Since: Jul 20, 2011
And that's not really much of a "perk" anymore since Apple and other phone makers offer free installment plans now too. Thumbs down for TMO on the "Upgrade Support Charge".
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?cyberknight Mar 26, 2019 9:01 AM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Mar 26, 2019
Same thing happened to me but worse. My wife and I have been with T-Mobile for about 3 to 4 years .I always pay my bills a few months ahead of time and right now I have about $404 credit with T-Mobile .But anyways 3 days ago I bought a phone at the T-Mobile store and paid the entire amount adndalso bought their overpriced case and screen protector. I knew I could of bought the accessories onlie at half price online so I wanted to do my part to boost the local economy. After I went home and looked at the receipt there was a 20 upgrade Support fee. wtf!! They did not even tell me about it and that is not they just charged me for itiob my debit card and i had no idea. I a
isn't that illlegal?
Next I checked the new phone and the screen protector they instaains was misaligned and 2 corners and part of one side was coming off the phone. The protector came with an alignment tray but they did not give it back to me
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?magenta8555650 May 15, 2019 2:08 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: May 15, 2019
I just purchased a phone at a TMOBILE store and the rep couldn't explain to me what the Upgrade Support Fee's purpose was or what it's for. She said it wasn't her doing and it was just part of the billing. WTH! Part of the billing with no explanation? Are you kidding me? I asked her if buying the phone online had the same fee added and she said yes. I just looked and it does not. WTH! I didn't have them change out my sim card or do anything except process the payment and hand me the phone. No Support there and she didn't even have the courtesy to say 'thank you' for the purchase. Poor. poor, poor service and a charge that can't be explained by a T Mobile rep! WOW! Time for me to look for another provider that has a trained staff and isn't gouging customers.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?andrewstheory Jun 28, 2019 12:38 AM (in response to chris13)
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Oh Boy. I like this chat group. I just bought two Iphone XRs and didn't see the upgrade charges until I downloaded my receipt just now.
I thought I was happy with Tmobile until I saw that! The sales associate did not tell me of these charges. I thought I was just paying for the taxes and a partial down payment on the phone. But now I know what kind of shenanigans they pull on you for just buying a new phone so I won't be buying any more phones for a long while. I'll be keeping my eye out on the way they do business!
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?dc5fan Jun 28, 2019 3:18 AM (in response to andrewstheory)
- Member Since: Sep 16, 2017
I read your post, and the members' posts before yours. In 12/2017 I purchased a new LG Stylo 3 Plus from a corporate store 7 miles south. The employee had to put in a nano SIM. He also set up the phone. The charges were for the phone, SIM, and taxes that came to $280. I have a prepaid account, and from what I understand I may not be able to purchase a phone online. That's fine. I would rather use other sources to purchase a T-Mobile phone elsewhere. You, sir, are correct! This is a great chat area. I have learned a lot, I have added some here, and I have PO'd some.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?chris13 Jul 1, 2019 11:42 AM (in response to andrewstheory)
- Member Since: Jul 20, 2011
I'd always advocate to check your monthly bill and/or confirm ANY charges you may or may not incur when doing something new/different/etc with TMO...or any company for that matter. The thing that really irked me when I started the thread over 2 years ago is that I believe the "charge" was either mentioned casually or thinking it was a downpayment on the new phone. In your case, if not mentioned at all, I'd be on the horn with Customer Service to see if they can help (ask for a courtesy credit) and/or let them know what store this happened at, so they can address it with them. I'm not 100% sure as it was a couple years ago, but I believe I did call CS and TMO gave me some kind of a credit. Overall, TMO has been very good to me from the aspect of resolving any issues and really can't blame Corporate a lot of times for what some of their stores say...or don't say. It really is a loss for TMO, as I will probably never buy a phone again from them, especially at a store, unless there is some kind of special pricing (like my S9) and/or no Upgrade Support Charge. I can buy direct from the cell maker (Apple, Samsung, etc) and not have to worry about a "phantom" charge...plus, they almost all have payment plans like TMO, if you have to do that, so not seeing an advantage coupled with a $20 USC. Give em a call, they may help you out, especially if a new customer. Worth a shot...
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?sleeknight2017 Aug 17, 2019 8:50 PM (in response to chris13)
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Yesterday I stopped at T-Mobile store to get info on new LG Stylo 5. Was told it would be in today, so went in and was told it would be a $20 upcharge added to price. I asked why since I was upgrading to a higher price phone and they would be getting the business of new phone cost. Said it was a charge made on all new phones purchased thru the store. I went back home and found if ordered online, there was no "upcharge fee". Well I am not paying a $20 fee just to get a new phone. I decided to buy phone from another store for less money. Got phone shipped to me with no shipping fee in just two days plus it was almost a hundred dollars cheaper than at T-Mobile store and online. What a BS rip off not paying no $20! Been with T-Mobile since 2005. Cannot believe this is happening. They need to do something about this BS!
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?newclient4now Sep 12, 2019 9:21 AM (in response to chris13)
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I'm a new T-Mobile client, just moved over from ATT. I moved over 4 lines plus I added a 5th for my youngest who is old enough to have a phone now. All 4 existing phones were OK to use on my new plan so I only needed to purchase 1. The service rep on the phone said they were out of stock and I could simply go into a T-Mobile store to get it but he'd ship me 5 SIM cards.
I converted my 4 phones myself and went in to buy the 5th phone. I was very surprised when I was hit with the BS $20 "Upgrade" charge.
I asked why since I was NOT upgrading anything and their service rep told me to pick it up in the store. They said they could not remove it and it was so they could open the box and set it up for me. I refused to have her set it up, I just did my other 4 myself. I didn't need or want her to do it. She still charged me the $20 or I could leave without the phone. My daughter was excited and expecting it, so I paid the extortion.
This is NOT a good way to start a relationship with a new client!
The original rep worked hard to gain my trust and business away from ATT but he should have been upfront about this BS $20 charge before I committed to T-Mobile. I still would have changed but I would be a happier customer, instead they've soured the relationship over $20! Do you think I'll be recommending them to anyone? Do you think I'll be loyal to them?
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?gramps28 Sep 12, 2019 12:54 PM (in response to newclient4now)
- Member Since: Jul 15, 2011
I would suggest contacting Tmobile support through messenger using Facebook
or Twitter and see if they can waive the charge since you had to go to a store when trying
to buy over the phone.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?magenta10216611 Oct 15, 2019 7:08 AM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Oct 15, 2019
Went to the store to get a phone as well. Went to get a new Samsung A10e which was advertised for 175. Have 4 lines currently but needed to replace my phone which is shattered. So first thing was that I was charged 200 dollars since the 175 price is when you activate a new line and in the tiniest print imaginable the device only price is 199. Then the rep slapped the 20 dollar upgrade support charge. I asked what it was for and they said to move stuff from my old phone to the new phone. I was like that is easy and I can do that, but they could not waive it. Manager came over and could not waive it. He basically said I could buy the phone from Samsung and avoid that fee. So went to Samsung, found the phone on sale for 175 unlocked, but decided to do some shopping and found an A50 at Amazon for a total of 250 unlocked so went with that. Too bad T-Mobile's policies and non-sense pricing scheme lost them a phone device sell. I will likely not get a phone there when its too easy to just get it from Amazon, Samsung, or others. I saw Samsung has great deals on a trade in which I may do for my wife's phone.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?billyruben Oct 22, 2019 10:08 AM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Oct 22, 2019
I was excited about getting the new One Plus 7T, but when I heard about the $20 upgrade fee, I headed for the door. I can't believe they want to charge me $20 for the privilege of buying another phone. It makes no sense to me.
When I told the salesman that I thought the charge was ridiculous, he made some sort of face at me. From the clerk's countenance, most customers probably don't question the fee. I went from being modestly annoyed to down right angry. At least he told me about it up front, which doesn't always happen apparently.
I'm going to hang on to my old phone for a while longer.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?magenta2810687 Nov 4, 2019 2:52 PM (in response to billyruben)
- Member Since: Oct 5, 2017
You do know all carriers charge for an upgrade support charge, redundant to get mad about it when its $20, and at least its billed up front instead of the bill like how at&t used to do, keep in mind also other carriers do charge more. At&t used to be $40, I believe its $30 now but its placed on your bill, sprint charges $30 as well. It's only waived when you purchase your device online because its classified as assisted support charge, meaning if you need help transferring data, changing out your sim, or any kind of support, will result in the charge being placed. The reps do not make money off it, and if you actually go to a store and look at the price tags for phones. If you buy a phone outright instead of going through the upgrade process, the MRC tends to be $30 or more, so for example an iphone 11 64gb is $699 when processed as an upgrade but you add $20 and the reps assist you. You buy it outright, you're going to spend an extra $10. So if you don't want it charged, buy your phone online and set it up yourself.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?magenta10381532 Nov 22, 2019 1:56 PM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Nov 22, 2019
Just got charged this $20 Upgrade Support Charge for walking into a store to purchase a new phone. I am happy to see I am not the only one infuriated. I've been a T-Mobile customer for 15+ years and will now be looking for another carrier. Just another way for a large corporation to fleece their customers. The whole point is to force all customers to only buy online so staff can continue to be off-shored & terminated and stores closed. Less staff means more corporate profit. While I am sure all carriers now charge an upgrade fee, I think the point is people need to wake up. I would have walked out of the store to buy the phone online however I would not have been able to wait a week for the new phone.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?tmo_mike_c Nov 25, 2019 2:13 PM (in response to magenta10381532)
- Member Since: Jun 25, 2012
Hey 15 years is a really long time and we appreciate that. Sorry if you weren't aware of that fee, but it's been something we charge with upgrades for a while now. I'm curious about the experience you had with this. Have you upgraded other times through out your tenure with us? Also, were you made aware of the charge before you bought the phone?
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?magenta2810687 Nov 25, 2019 9:32 PM (in response to tmo_mike_c)
- Member Since: Oct 5, 2017
I highly wouldn't recommend believing what customers say vs what was actually said in store or between customer care reps. Most of it is fabricated, especially when upgrade fees have been in place for a very verryyyy long time, I always see customers say "oh well I've been a customer for 10 years and I've never paid one before," okay that's nice, I've been in this industry just as long. Surprises me how much people fuss over a $20 fee rather than their attention on the fsct they are usually purchasing devices that retsil for $700+ that only cost around $75 make.
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?chris13 Nov 26, 2019 5:47 AM (in response to magenta2810687)
- Member Since: Jul 20, 2011
Well, I can absolutely tell you the Customer Care rep at my local TMO store did NOT explain the $20 fee to me and what it was for, but it was early on in the implementation of this "junk fee", so shame on me for not checking and/or questioning my bill. I actually thought it was a down payment for the new phone at first. That said, customer care did reverse when I called in to complain as a 13 year customer at the time. It's not the $20 or the $700 phone, I can easily afford both, but what amounts to deception and/or assuming a customer knows about this fee that was just implemented about 2 years ago, I believe. If you haven't bought a new phone since then, you wouldn't really know about the fee, would you? Also, if there shouldn't be a "fuss over a $20 fee", feel free to pick it up or take it off a customer's bill...not that big a deal for a billion dollar company, right?
Re: Upgrade Support Charge?5733560181 Dec 7, 2019 9:33 AM (in response to chris13)
- Member Since: Oct 30, 2017
Exact same thing happened to me. The store rep did not say anything about the fee. I called to complain and they did not remove the charge. I will switch carriers now after being a long time customer who has referred lots of people to TMobole.


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I'm interested to know how he did it.
A couple of online articles about Old Believers that I found very informative (Evidently, they're not as opposed to new-fangled technologies as Hopeful Faithful might like us to believe. Just don't be caught with a cigarette in your mouth!):Collection of Old Believer History and Tradition, compiled by Paul J. WigowskyOld Believers in Alaska, by Vitali VitalievThe first several paragraphs of this article lay down the foundation of the general Russian Orthodox presence in Alaska, so you won't find anything specific about the Old Believers until the paragraph I quote below.Some paragraphs (emphases mine) from this article that I found quite enlightening within the context of this thread and Hopeful Faithful's English language thread:
By forked tongue and by the weakness of those Old Believers.
Wigowsky is not practicing strict Old Belief, as far as I last knew. But many stricter Old Believers from his Oregon area did in fact move to Alaska in order to be removed from the unchristian practices. Likewise, Vitaliev never practiced strict Old Belief either. So those sources are not the best sources, sadly. There are at least 7 Old Believer villages in Alaska, caused in large part to the compromises with this world. We all make our choices. But there are still some strict Old Believers in Oregon and Alaska, but you will not find Wigowsky or Vitaliev telling much about them.
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Or perhaps the Old Believers just want to be left alone so all we hear is the lunatic fringe (which all human assemblies have).
"mongoloid"? <insert emoticon of one raised eyebrow here> What does that word mean *to you* and what historical texts have you read that used it please?"Latin" reforms? Yet in some of your earlier rants they were described as "greek". On what do you base calling them Latin please?And just for the record, the way that Nikon acted was harsh and (in this person's opinion wrong), but I don't see much difference in how you are declaring that there is Only One Right Way(tm).Do you actually belong to a parish? Participate in weekly services with others? Which EO churches? citations please? And is it the praxis that is considered right? In what way was *belief* in the basic doctines different as opposed to *praxis*? Ebor
Wow, isn't that just special.
Somehow I don't think the Scots, Welsh, Irish would agree with this totally.
So, essentially, you don't actually need the Church, since God will guide you correctly if you just stay faithful to him. In other words, Protestantism is justified within your ultra-(un)traditional world view. Interesting.
From what I've read, most Old Believers just want to be left alone. They tend to be rather closed to outsiders with their foreign ideas.
Which confirms something I thought based on the articles linked here earlier: they parallel the Amish.
They do use 'English'...
Greetings Asteriktos,Wrong! Anyone who worships in spirit and truth is part of the Church which is eternally in heaven. We should all know that in such worship heaven is on earth. The law of God is written on each persons heart so that none of us are with any excuse. Protestant is not justified one iota and I certainly do not have or desire any ultra-(un)traditional world view, so it is not that interesting. What is interesting is obeying God rather than man. We all make our choices as far as we each are believing. Time will soon be telling how we all have done.So you are acknowledging the non juridical possibility of salvation to those who know God's law of right and wrong as st. Paul writes about in Romans 2 and our Saviour illustrates in the example of the good Samaritan but see the Old Believers as repesenting the truth of the Gospel? If so, fair enough, it would be a good starting point to any Christian to clarify so first and then enumerate apologetic. Perhaps meaningful discussion could progress and the trap of phariseeism be avoided.Forgive, John
Some people are thankful.
...We all make our choices as far as we each are believing. Time will soon be telling how we all have done.
Prove there are people!!
The traditional missionary practice of the Orthodox Church has always been to preach the Gospel and translate the Scriptures and service books into the languages of the indigenous people to whom we preach so that they can understand and participate. During the missionary work of Ss. Cyril and Methodius and, later, Prince St. Vladimir (whose memory we commemorate tomorrow in the New Calendar churches) Slavonic was the native language of the Russian people. But as time progressed, the Slavonic language in Russia evolved into modern Russian--languages do this. Now most Russians don't understand Slavonic except for what they might hear in church; they certainly don't speak this tongue in their daily relations, AFAIK. Does not our traditional focus on making the Scriptures and service books understandable to the average churchman require, then, that we continue to update the language used in these sacred books to reflect the idioms of the current vernacular? IMO, the Orthodox should be very uncomfortable with any sentiment that venerates an ancient language as divinely inspired, considers the modern language vulgar and unfit for sacred use, and thus refuses to update its church language. (The strictest Old Ritualist adherence to Old Slavonic also strikes me as quite phyletistic in its Russian nationalism, but I guess that's more properly the subject of another post.)
The Amish do call all outsiders 'English' (don't know if they use that for other Pennsylvania German groups they're not in communion with) and speak three languages: their own German dialect, originally Palatinate/Swiss German but transformed after centuries in America, AFAIK not a written language; standard German, their liturgical and IIRC preaching language, which they learn to read Luther's Bible; and English with a standard American accent.I think Heorhij is generally right about the origin of Church Slavonic: an artificial language based on the common Slavic ones at the time which were very similar to each other, mutually intelligible, so the Macedonian or Bulgarian that SS. Cyril and Methodius learnt growing up in Salonika worked pretty well talking to the Czechs and Slovaks. Russian is a closely related sister language to Slavonic. Not descended from it like the Romance languages are from Latin but like I said, once nearly the same but it gradually changed. (They're still fairly similar though, about like this is to Tyndale's or maybe Chaucer's English: largely intelligible but weird-sounding.)
Actually, I have met several Old Believers here in America who actually suggest traditional English for Liturgy as it wouldn't make sense for one to use a foreign language. One has to remember that the Old Believers are not a homogenius group, even those similar and many in fact considered Old Believers are not. Also, Mr Alderman and fatman were neither raised in the Old Believer sects and I suspect that neither have much contact with them either. Thus, take their word with a grain of salt.
So most of the Old Believers have compromised the faith. Next we will learn that only a solopsist has not.
The Old Believers, for the most part, have all compromised their faith.
Greetings Elisha,How is it loving to reject the law and accept Latin reforms and still believe that Orthodoxy exists therein?If there was ever a good answer to this I might begin to believe that the Old Believers are the unloving ones.Forgive, John
Oh by the way Tamara, I was replying to his statement that he referred to most of the Old Beleivers as compromisers. I was not criticizing the Old Believers per se (think I had missed a detail).
Some time back I had read postings by a "John Alden" (assuming that they are the same person) on another EO board. It was similar to this, and iirc at that time he was not part of any Old Believer group. One wonders if he is now.Ebor[/quoteGreetings Ebor,For three years, I, along with those strict Old Believers that I have been with, consider me to be at an introductory level to the strict Old Believers known as the Pomorsky. As far as I know there are no Old Believers here in San Diego, if that is what you mean, except when they are visiting me or with me. If I learn of any other strict Old Believers that are within reach I would very much desire to participate with them. There really are not many of them and they do stay away from outsiders, so they are difficult to locate. When the Lord returns it will be like the days of Noah, when his group only amounted to eight people, or it will be worse than the days of Sodom where only Lot's family escaped, minus his wife that left only three people. So do not expect to find much of an example of them around. As for me, who am I? Just a lowly American and son of American's, but willing to practice this good old way that is lost for all intents and purposes. Really these are those times when the whole juristiction/group mentality gets thrown out the window anyway. If anyone was really serious I could perhaps reveal more of the details of exactly those people on earth that I worship, pray and learn scripture from. But that would be of a more personal nature that I would want to disclose in this forum. Here in this place it is not possible for me to point and say exactly where I belong, but I was given a quazi baptism by a Greek priest and an OCA priest, so it is not like this forum is unkown ground to me. I will not be participating in this forum much longer, but at least a few people might better understand me for the effort. At least that is something.Forgive, John
Greetings Ebor, The word mongoloid, at that place, is related to the more important word that immediatly follows it, muslims. Most dictionaries suggest that a secondary meaning of the word is offensive towards Down syndrome, I do not mean to use the word in that secondary meaning.
Any study of the downfall of Constantinople (something I suggest you do)
I work to control those raised eyebrows, something I am sure you cannot understand at this point.
If I may make another suggestion, Mr. Alden, please modify your last post so that the 'quote' brackets can set your text outside for more clarity. I am not trying to give you a hard time, but making posts easier to read helps in discussions.Ebor
And only you and a select few have painstakingly managed to hold to the Truth. You're free to hold whatever beliefs you wish, John. But when you explode onto an English speaking forum blasting English (esp when it's the only language you're fluent in), you're not going to be taken seriously.
I was surprised to learn that the ROCOR Old Rite church in Erie has services in English!
I would not expect anything less from "unionists" who worship with beard shaving cross dressers and transvestites, etc.Understanding the authentic Christian rules for beards assists in determining what is what:http://mymartyrdom.com/rhb.htm I don't care what you think of us "apostate" Orthodox, but such insulting language applied to the clergy and faithful of any Christian tradition represented on this board will not be tolerated.
Greetings board,We all make our choices as far as how we each are believe. I will let God judge between us, as it is He that will ultimately do the judging of each of us. It is not my fault that modernist Orthodox Churches insult God left and right. So we are going round and round here. We all offend, woe to those who offend first. Who do you suppose contradicted God first, me or the modern minded Orthodox Churches? Perhaps it is good thing to be banned from such a board. I care about everyone, the truth often sees insulting. I ask you all to reconsider. What was the stand of the Russian Orthodox Church from the start with regard to the trimming of beards and wiskers? Is it merely a clerical concern only, or for all Orthodox men? When did it begin to be permitted for men to shave their face clean like a woman? It was Peter the Great, that Russian snake, who was so western minded that he changed nearly everything in Russia to be like the heretical western christians. As for me I reject such Latin reforms and I offer others who would make the sacred their own to step aside now, time is truly shorter than ever before.Forgive, John
[ liberal, modernist, pro-crossdressing, anti-traditionalist, pro-mason, universalist, ecumenist, anti-monastic, deistic, evolutionist, caesaropapist devotee to Constantiople ]That's one hell of a disrespectful label...and it appears a little discipline is in order.james
That would be an awesome way to go, 'Banned for self-deprecating comments.' LMAO, a few mods might even give it a go
liberal, modernist, pro-crossdressing, anti-traditionalist, pro-mason, universalist, ecumenist, anti-monastic, deistic, evolutionist, caesaropapist devotee to Constantiople ]That's one hell of a disrespectful label...and it appears a little discipline is in order.
I wouldn't take it too hard, one of our best and favourite posters, TomS, was banned recently. (And there's probably a halfway decent chance I will be as well before too long).And this is coming from a liberal, modernist, pro-crossdressing, anti-traditionalist, pro-mason, universalist, ecumenist, anti-monastic, deistic, evolutionist, caesaropapist devotee to Constantiople that hasn't agreed with a single word you've posted to this forum.'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.' -- Voltaire (attributed)Welcome.
ROTFLM*O!!! This is the best **** piece of satire I've seen in a long time! Oh, wait. GiC wrote it.
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Paris-based filmmaker Hala Alabdalla was in the middle of making her documentary, As If We Were Catching A Cobra, about cartoonists and caricature artists in Syria and Egypt, when revolution swept the region.
Unable to return to Syria for follow-up interviews with subjects including caricature artist Ali Farzat and writer Samar Yazbek, who were later persecuted by the Syrian authorities, and finding a different world when she returns to Egypt, Hala incorporated the revolution and its repercussions into her film. Another subject, veteran Cairo-based artist Mohieddin Al Labbad, passed away during the making of the film, which includes tributes to him by his young protégés.
Cartoons published in newspapers, magazines and books are an important outlet to explore social and political realities in the Arab world, and while they can sometimes express more than words, they are still subject to the watchful eye of the censor. Hala's film examines issues such as freedom of speech, repression and the role of journalism in Arab society.
The film is screening at the Abu Dhabi Film Festival in the Documentary Feature Competition. Hala previously directed the documentaries I Am The One Who Brings Flowers To Her Grave (2006), which won prizes at several festivals including Venice, and Hey! Don't Forget The Cumin (2008).
Would you say this film is more ambitious than your previous films?
My previous two films were made without any real finance. Because this film is not purely personal, and because I had to travel around the Arab world to meet people, I realised I needed financing and approached all the funds. We have funding from Sanad [ADFF's support fund], Fonds Sud and AFAC [Arab Fund for Arts and Culture]. What impressed me about these funds is that there are no conditions about exclusivity or distribution - so I felt this was a good compromise between making a film without any financing and having a financier but still being free and controlling my film.
What's the budget of the film?
It still hasn't been completely finalised. I normally only shoot for a short period so the budget is not spent on shooting. For this movie I had four days in Egypt, three days in Syria and a few sequences shot at home, so this is maybe Euros 4,000. But the bulk of the budget is spent on post-production, as I always spend a long time editing, so this is where the money goes.
When did your sales company Wide Management board the film?
They saw the film before anyone else and were aware that it's a not a commercial movie but wanted to embark on this adventure. It's the first time I've worked with a sales agent and I find it difficult to look at my film as a commercial object and not as my child. But there's a very good understanding between us.
What is the funding situation currently like for Arab documentaries?
It's important to have documentaries in the Arab world, firstly because it's a creative work, and also from the point of view of finding the right audience and festivals for documentary films. This region really needs documentaries because they are like arms that the people can take up. They also raise awareness - people need to understand the circumstances they live in and documentaries help people to express themselves.
But it's important that we insist on freedom, not just in content, but also in the form. I like to mix fiction and documentary so my films are not like classical documentaries, which normally look like journalist reportage. After everything I've learned, I believe in breaking the rules. And that reflects our experience in this region - you want to free yourself from everything you've learnt and discover something new.
Will people in Syria and Egypt have a chance to see this film?
Syria is now very difficult of course, but I'm trying my best in Egypt so that the film can be seen very soon.
Is the Abu Dhabi Film Festival a good platform for launching documentaries?
Yes because the audience is very mixed - there are people from all over the world here, not only locals. There are also many journalists and industry professionals here. We had our world premiere in Toronto, and while we had a strong audience response, it's a huge festival. When you have both fiction and documentary in a large festival, it's easy for the documentaries to get lost.


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Dear Answer Angel Ellen: I have been invited to a black-tie dinner at a fancy private club. Is a knee-length dress acceptable attire? The dress I would wear is sleeveless, decorated with rhinestones around the neckline and around the edges of the three-quarter-sleeve bolero jacket. It is a fairly straight sheath with an extra shirred panel over the skirt, dark royal blue. Please answer soon, because if I need a floor-length evening gown I have to buy one, or beg, borrow or steal one!
— Elizabeth
Dear Elizabeth: You're right to be confused. Who isn't? In an era when people wear shorts to religious services and don't bother to remove baseball caps in the fanciest restaurants, it's pretty hard to figure out what is acceptable or appropriate for a formal event. In this case you're fine with a short dress. I know this because I called the club (thanks for giving me the name) and asked if a short dress is OK. "There's always a mix of long and short," I was told by one of the staffers who has attended the event. When in doubt, my advice is don't be shy: Pick up the phone and ask the club, the party host, the bride, etc. Not so sure you want to take the direct approach? The folks at the etiquette website emilypost.com say that a floor-length evening gown, a dressy cocktail dress or your dressiest "little black dress" are all proper party attire for events labeled "black tie." The website also parses the mysteries of dressing for a wide array of other occasions. By the way, at your upcoming dinner, don't be surprised if guests show up in all sorts of get-ups that are totally wrong for the occasion. At least now you won't be one of them!
Dear Answer Angel Ellen: We are in the season of dark clothes, and I find myself using Woolite Darks on a weekly basis. It works quite well but is a bit expensive. Have you come across a more economical alternative?
Dear J.D.: I use baby shampoo in cold water for all my hand-washing. It's gentle and inexpensive, and a little goes a long way. I am fanatical about using it on my cashmere (especially the dark sweaters) because, after drying them flat — press out the water, don't wring — they are so soft. I'll never dry-clean cashmere again since it comes back crunchy, which is the opposite of how cashmere should feel!
Dear Answer Angel Ellen: I recently found a pair of bell-bottom pants at the back of my closet — yes, I once wore them and thought I looked terribly chic at the time. Amazingly, they still fit, and I'm thinking about giving them a new turn in life. I realize bell-bottoms aren't "in" anymore, but as I get older I feel less inclined to follow any kind of arbitrary rules. What do you think about bringing back something that's out of date even if it's not fashionable?
— Clothes Call
Dear Clothes Call: Who says bell-bottoms aren't in? Call 'em palazzo pants and you're right in style. Here's a big headline from the November issue of Lucky magazine: "Break the Rules." "The only rule Lucky is sticking to is that there are no rules," the fashion-savvy editors declare. I totally agree. Eclectic, retro, vintage, repurposed. Those are all adjectives applied to the wardrobe choices of today's most fashionable women. You're in great company.
Dear Answer Angel Ellen: Do you remember bra slips? That efficient combination of a bra and a slip? I know that Spanx has a number that encases the body with a bra-and-girdle-like structure that covers the body from the bosom to the booty and thighs, but that is too confining for me. Do you have any idea if any company makes the bra slip? It was always great to have just one set of straps to deal with, and the slip never had to be tugged or tucked to stay in place. I would kill for one of those, especially with a sweater dress. Do let me know!
— Barbara Y.
Dear Barbara: What a great idea for one-stop underwear. Of course they don't make them anymore. At least I can't find them, except vintage ones on ebay.com. In fact, good luck even finding a regular old full slip for sale in stores today. I once went on a mission to find one and came back empty-handed. Full slips are still available online, and there are pretty ones at remarkable prices at National ("living the comfortable life"), shopnational.com.
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Turn the drum 4-5 times by hand to resettle the load, move spin speed to highest, Quick Wash, Speed Wash. Might work might not.
Try unplugging the unit for 5 minutes to reset the control board. See if that will cure anything.
Most likely your problem is with the water level pressure switch. The part number is AP4445151I really doubt it's anything with the control board.
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This Portuguese nursery early subsidiary of bamboo is now independent. Yvez Crouzet is the manager.
Located 200 km south of Lisbon and close to the Atlantic coast, we produce bamboo from temperate climate, some resistant to -20ºC and bamboo from tropical climate.
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Elmer F. Jaspan, 91, Founder Of Television Station WDRB-TV 41
Elmer F. Jaspan, 91, of Louisville, died Thursday, Nov. 1, 2012. He was the founder of television station WDRB-TV 41 in 1971, and was president until his retirement in 1989. His entire broadcasting profession spanned over a period of 60 years, beginning at a radio station while in high school in his hometown of Trenton, N.J., and continuing while attending college. After serving as a Navy officer in the Pacific during World War II, he graduated from Temple University.
In 1948, he began a pioneering television career as a director at the NBC affiliate in Philadelphia, highlighted by directing milestone telecasts including the first network soap opera in 1951, the national telecast of Eisenhower's inaugural Presidential campaign speech in 1953, the first televised live surgical operation from the University of Pennsylvania Hospital and discovering and directing Ernie Kovacs, as host of one of the earliest cooking shows on television.
Prior to coming to Louisville, he managed television stations in Milwaukee and Detroit, and had been vice-president of the TV departments of advertising agencies in Philadelphia, New York City and Detroit, where he handled such accounts as Lincoln Mercury, Tareyton Cigarettes and Good & Plenty Candy. In Louisville, he served on the boards of The Temple, Louisville Public Media and National Association of Independent TV stations and was a member of the Standard Country Club, where he was a "hole-in-oner.†He and his wife, Jackie, were avid world travelers for 25 years of their lives.
He is preceded in death by his wife, Jacqueline. He is survived by daughters, Myrna Jane Jaspan, Jennifer Carl and Yvonne Richards (Scott); and four grandchildren.
Graveside services were held 3 p.m. Friday, Nov. 2, 2012, at The Temple Cemetery. Herman Meyer & Son was in charge of arrangements. Contributions may go to The Temple.
Frank E. Kamenish Jr., 84, Retired Salesman For Bryant Wholesale Liquors
Frank E. Kamenish Jr., 84, passed away Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2012.
He was a retired salesman for Bryant Wholesale Liquors and a member of St. Barnabas Church, Knights of Columbus Bishop Spalding Council and the St. Xavier Alumni Association.
Preceding him in death were a son, David; his parents, Frank Sr. and Anna Cecil Kamenish; and a brother, Louis.
Survivors are his wife, the former Elizabeth "Betty†Sheeley; two sons, Ronald L. Kamenish (Alysa) and Donald L. Kamenish (Diane); two daughters, Carolyn F. Ryan (Gary) and Suzanne M. Kamenish; three granddaughters, Jessica, Katie and Lauren Ryan; and four step grandchildren, John and Aaron Herbert, Hunter and Haydn Hatfield.
A Mass of Christian Burial was held at 10 a.m. Monday at St. Barnabas Church, 3042 Hikes Lane, with burial in St. Michael Cemetery. Visitation was from 2 to 9 p.m. Sunday at Ratterman and Sons, 3800 Bardstown Road. Memorial gifts may be made to Mass of the Air or to the American Diabetes Association.
William Lewis Brown, 64, Retired Attorney
William Lewis Brown, 64, died Wednesday, Nov. 7, 2012.
Born on July 31, 1948, in Shelbyville, Ky., Lew was a fifth generation of the Brown family of Shelby County.
He was a graduate of Culver Military Academy, the University of Virginia and the University of Kentucky School of Law. Lew, a retired attorney, clerked for Judge Charles M. Allen. He was a gentleman farmer and an avid outdoorsman. His many friends enjoyed his amazing recall for dates and historical facts and his ability to spin endless stories. He was an avid reader.
Lew was a member of the Kentucky Association of Trial Attorneys, the Louisville and Kentucky Bar Associations, the Pendennis Club, the Filson Club and Ducks Unlimited. He was a former board member of Kentucky Muscular Dystrophy Association, Metro United Way, Hosparus and a former President of Historic Homes Foundation. Lew was a member of the Dennbarr Club and the Sons of Colonial Warriors in America (Kentucky).
He was the son of the late Edwin Logan Brown Sr.
He is survived by his wife of 30 years, Margaret Helm Brown; his three daughters, Margaret Helm Brown, Sarah Logan Brown and Kathleen Kimmel McDowell Brown; his mother, Mrs. E. Logan Brown Sr., of Shelbyville, Ky.; and a brother, E. Logan Brown Jr., (Sue) of Houston, Tex.
Visitation was Sunday from 3 to 6 p.m. in the Fellowship Hall of Second Presbyterian Church, 3701 Old Brownsboro Road. The memorial service was held at 11 a.m. Monday, in the Sanctuary of Second Presbyterian Church.
Expressions of sympathy can be made to the American Heart Society, Hosparus or the Kentucky Humane Society.
Barbara Dianne Carpenter, 70, Retired From Zeon Chemical
Barbara Dianne Carpenter, 70, passed away Wednesday, Nov. 7, 2012, at Baptist Hospital East.
She was born on Feb. 11, 1942, in Jackson, Tenn., to the late Robert Lamarr and Mary Lou Johnsey Davis. Dianne graduated from Jackson High School, attended one year at the Methodist School of Nursing in Memphis, Tenn., and retired from Zeon Chemical. She was most known for her love and devotion to her family.
Left to carry on her memory are children, Ginny Reed (Kai Hardison), Susan McGovern (Jeff McEnaney), and Windy Gray (Burt); sisters, Gwen Ricketts, Jane Etheredge (Bob), and Bobbie Ann Smoot (Raymond); grandchildren, Tommy and Nick McGovern, Ryan and Brooke Gray; and aunt, Virginia Mills.
A service in celebration of Dianne's life was held at noon Saturday at Arch L. Heady at Resthaven, 4400 Bardstown Road. Visitation was from 2 to 8 p.m. Friday and 10 a.m. Saturday prior to the service.
To leave condolences, visit www.archlheadyresthaven.com.
Alice Charleene Maynard Harris, 80, Retired Elementary School Teacher
Alice Charleene Maynard Harris, 80, retired elementary school teacher and widow of Ray Harris, died Wednesday, Nov. 7, 2012, at Hospice Care Center in Lexington, Ky.
She was born April 22, 1932, in Huntington, W.V., daughter of the late Charles and Kathryn Floyd Maynard. Charleene was a graduate of Marshall High School in Huntington, W.V., Morris Harvey College in Charleston, W.V., and received her Master's Degree from the University of Kentucky. She taught at Nicholas County Elementary School for 27 years and was a member of the Episcopal Church.
Charleene is survived by a daughter, Sarah K. A. Harris, Lexington; two sons, Charles K. (Sarah) Harris, Louisville, Ky., and Dr. Thomas M. (Spring) Harris, Floyd Knobs, Ind.; six grandchildren, Sean Thomas, Alexander, Emma K., Alice R., Ian and Liza Harris; and an aunt, Mrs. Tommy Floyd Gammon, Paris, Ky.
Graveside services were held 1 p.m. Sunday, Nov. 11, 2012, at Pine Hill Cemetery, Louisa, Ky. Visitation was from 5 to 8 p.m. Saturday at Hinton-Turner Funeral Home, Paris. Memorials are suggested to Paris Animal Welfare Society (PAWS), PO Box 333, Paris, Ky., 40362.
Eleanor Rosebud Pitts McHenry, 96, Teacher In The Christian County School System
Eleanor Rosebud Pitts McHenry, 96, passed away Sunday, Nov. 4, 2012.
She was born April 29, 1916, in Winston-Salem, N.C., the daughter of Luella and Thomas Pitts. She graduated from Atkins High School in Winston-Salem. Eleanor attended Winston-Salem State Teachers College and earned her B.A. degree in English from West Virginia State College, Institute, W.V., in 1937. Later she received her M.A. degree in Reading Education at Murray State University, Murray, Ky.
Always striving to learn more, Eleanor went on to earn 30 hours above the Masters degree and the coveted Rank 1 status as a Kentucky public school teacher. She taught for 20 years in the Christian County school system first at Gainesville Elementary and then at Highland Elementary. She was a faithful member of Freeman Chapel C.M.E. for 65 years where she was a member of the Stewardess Board, the Missionary Society and formerly served as the church secretary and as a Sunday School teacher.
She was preceded in death by her husband, civil rights attorney, Louis P. McHenry. Together they helped to move Christian County forward in promoting equality and human relations for all citizens.
She leaves to rejoice and celebrate her life, her son, Louis Porter McHenry Jr., and his wife, Lynn Bynum, Louisville, Ky.; daughter, Gail McHenry Walters and her husband, Trent Walters, Burleson, Texas; daughter, Linda Faye McHenry, Dublin, Ohio; granddaughter, Erika Renee McHenry Stubbs, Lawrenceville, N.J.; grandson, Trent Daren Walters and his wife, Sandra Walters, Grand Prairie, Texas; granddaughter, Dr. Vanessa Walters McNair and her husband, Dr. Rameek McNair, Jacksonville, Fla.; grandson, Troy McHenry Walters and his wife, Josephine Walters, Cary, N.C.; grandson, Louis Porter McHenry III, Louisville, Ky.; great grandson, Brendan Walters, Grand Prairie, Texas; great granddaughter, Morgan Stubbs, Lawrenceville, N.J.; great granddaughter, Kensley Walters, Grand Prairie, Texas; great granddaughter, Nyla Elle McNair, Jacksonville, Fla.; great grandson, Arthur Louis Stubbs, Lawrenceville, N.J.; and great granddaughter, Laila McNair, Jacksonville, Fla.; and sister, Marion Pitts Best, Washington, D.C.; She is also survived by a host of nieces, nephews, cousins and many wonderful friends.
Visitation was held on Friday, Nov. 9, 2012, from 5 to 7 p.m. at Adams and Sons Mortuary, 306 Mechanic St., Hopkinsville. The funeral was held at 11 a.m. on Saturday, Nov. 10, 2012, at Freeman Chapel CME Church, 137 S. Virginia St., Hopkinsville, with interment at Green Hills Memorial Gardens.
The family will treasure all expressions of sympathy. If you are interested, you may donate to Kentucky State University, the Eleanor Pitts and Louis Porter McHenry Scholarship Fund. The scholarship will be awarded to a deserving student at KSU from Christian County. If you would like to make a donation to the scholarship fund, please make your check payable to KSU as indicated above with a notation to the scholarship and send to Linda McHenry at 4355 Russellville Road, Hopkinsville, Ky., 42240.
Donald L. Watkins, 58, Writer, Promoter And Gospel Recording Artist
Donald L. Watkins, 58, of Louisville, passed away Sunday, Nov. 4, 2012, at Baptist Hospital East surrounded by family.
Donald attended Fisk University. He was an established writer, promoter and gospel recording artist.
He was blessed and fortunate to have worked with a variety of local and national gospel music legends.
He was most proud of his membership with the Gospel Music Workshop of America and having traveled the world with Dr. Bobby Jones and The New Life Singers/Nashville Super Choir.
He was preceded in death by his parents, Willie T. and Tommie W. Watkins; a brother, Willie T. Watkins Jr.; and a nephew, Willie T. Watkins III.
He is survived by a sister, Carol Watkins, brothers, James L. Watkins (Carrie) of DeSoto, Texas and Robert L. Watkins (Rosa) of Aurora, Colo.; five nephews; three nieces and a host of cousins and friends.
The family offers special thanks to their extended Parkland Neighborhood family, Hospice of Louisville, Baptist Hospital East, Highlands Nursing and Rehabilation Center, City Church, Mt. Moriah Full Gospel Church The Church of God Sanctified and Bates Memorial Baptist Church.
Cremation was chosen. Internment was at Cave Hill Cemetery. Arrangements were by Owen Funeral Home, Jeffersontown, Ky.


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As the Star-Spangled Banner played and police in riot-gear looked on, a sea of people took a knee outside of Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte Sunday, NBC News reported.
Activists were demonstrating at and boycotting Sunday's NFL game between the Carolina Panthers and the Minnesota Vikings in protest of the shooting death of Keith Lamont Scott by a police officer last Tuesday.
Panthers quarterback Cam Newton — who has often been criticized for being silent on social justice issues — warmed-up for Sunday's game in a black t-shirt with the Martin Luther King Jr. quote: "Injustice anywhere is a threat to injustice everywhere."
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Cam Newton's warmup shirt today with an MLK quote:
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" #panthers @wcnc @SportsWCNC pic.twitter.com/CtMrnPXWmf — Kelsey Riggs (@KelseyRiggsWCNC) September 25, 2016
Security around the stadium was increased in light of recent protests that turned violent. About 50 Charlotte-Mecklenburg police officers dressed in riot gear received an ovation from fans waiting to get into the stadium for Sunday's game.


text: Digital DataPoint: King Surpasses 300 Million MAUs on IPO Day Despite its troublesome first day of trading, social game developer King has surpassed 300 MAUs.By Mona Zhang|March 26, 2014 Share By Mona Zhang|March 26, 2014 Share King Digital broke 300 million month active users (MAUs) on Facebook today, according to AppData. That puts the newly-public company at over three times the MAUs of Zynga on the same platform. So far, King's debut on the New York Stock Exchange has been rocky: At the time of this writing, shares were trading at $19.57, about 13 percent lower than the offering price. "It is unusual for an IPO to open up so much lower and then remain down like this throughout the morning it starts trading," said WSJ reporter Matt Jarzemsky in an interview.In comparison, Zynga's offering price was $10 per share, and was down five percent at the end of its first day of trading back in 2011. Although its stock price rose to as much as $14.69 per share (March 2012), it currently trades at $4.61.Citing data from Dealogic, Jarzemsky wrote that King's drop in price "was the third-steepest for a U.S.-listed IPO this year." It's also the most-profitable tech company to go public since Facebook's IPO. The game developer raked in $1.88 billion in revenue last year and had an after-tax profit of 30 percent. Zynga has not been profitable since going public. Investors and analysts seem to be worried that the company is a one-hit wonder and relies too much on the success of Candy Crush. However, as we previously covered, the fast rise of Farm Heroes Saga seems to indicate otherwise. King's games alone represent over 25 percent of MAUs in the top 100 Facebook apps.The company saw its revenue decline by about $20,000 between Q3 and Q4 last year, which probably has investors concerned about whether its revenue will continue to slow.However, the developer's user base shows no signs slowing, with MAUs up over 280 percent and DAU/MAU engagement up over 17 percent this year. King CEO Riccardo Zacconi has been doing damage control, reassuring investors of the company's plans to add more games to its portfolio. Unlike Zynga, King has "cracked mobile reach and mobile monetization. By doing so, we have the largest network of players in the mobile space," Zacconi told Recode.For more information about AppData click here, or call 415-230-2558.What do you think? Will King's shares rebound from its troublesome first day of trading? *featured image via @BRubinCNBC Share http://adweek.it/2knGsW1 copy Adweek Adweek


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Golden memories
The window is always important, if not the most important thing. It's the view that makes a poor room bearable and a good one, perfect. I like to see green trees or ones with boughs covered in snow; I adore the sight of an old town's streets and alleys and the view across its roofs. But my favorite is the classic: a window onto the ocean or onto a lake or river. The Vltava River, for example. I'll never forget what happened there although it was so long ago. I woke up on a hotel ship, not a cruise liner, but one that had dropped anchor for the last time and was securely lashed to the dock. My cabin had no window as such, but it did have a porthole, right next to the head end of the bed, or would "berth" be more apt? There was nothing particularly roomy about the place. It was also not very expensive: There are far grander hotel ships in Prague.
Maybe I wanted to save money, maybe it was coincidence, and maybe a cab driver just happened to drop me off there, but the hotel's two stars multiplied into thousands when I woke up and opened my eyes. My porthole was barely above the surface of the water, and the sun was just rising, its rays glittering on the waves and dazzling me a little, so at first I couldn't believe or grasp what
I was seeing outside. A large, white swan glided by, close enough to touch, then another and another, followed by some little ones. The whole family swam right past my nose in what looked like molten gold. Is this paradise, I asked myself? Then I remembered: I was in the heart of Prague, and that is sometimes the same thing. For that divine moment, my window was just perfect.
Helge Timmerberg
Our columnist, Helge Timmerberg, an irrepressible globetrotter since 1969, writes travel books and contributes monthly to our magazine.


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Looking for a science-based career in which you aren't working all day in a lab or at a desk? Where you get out of the office and have flexibility and a degree of personal freedom? In which you're helping people and solving problems every day, with no two days alike?
Kent State's bachelor of science degree in Environmental Health Sciences is the ticket, and there's still time to enroll for Fall Semester. The degree will prepare you for a great job with terrific advancement opportunities.
"Environmental health is a marriage between the natural sciences and public health," says Charles Hart, Ph.D., associate professor, Environmental Health Sciences. "You put your base of scientific knowledge into practice in the real world, out in the community helping people," he says. "You never know from one day to the next how you'll be using your knowledge, because environmental health is a challenging career of problem solving. And you're constantly learning, because new problems come along, and that forces you to learn something new to tackle them and find solutions," he says.
Hart describes a typical day at some agencies as going to the office for an hour or two to address paperwork and permits, then spending the rest of the day in the field or community performing inspections, taking samples or working with people to solve problems.
The environmental health undergraduate program features a variety of courses designed to prepare students to understand the public health risks associated with natural and man-made environmental exposures. As prerequisites, students complete a series of courses in the natural sciences – biology, chemistry, geology and physics. Classes in the major concentrate upon risk assessments that affect policy change; administration and enforcement of environmental and public health laws; strategies for disease prevention and health promotion; and prevention of harm to workers, property, the environment and the general public. The curriculum is rigorous, designed to meet accreditation standards of the National Environmental Health Science & Protection Accreditation Council (EHAC), a distinction which the college will be pursuing.
"The program incorporates a large field component," says Hart. "Most of the courses meet two days a week for lecture. Then we set aside four four-hour blocks of time each semester for field or lab work. Students get out of the classroom, onto a bus and go out to industry, a water treatment plant, a landfill or recycling facility, for instance. Or we get into the lab and learn how to use instruments. Students are very attracted to this field experience, and they also get a chance to do an internship as part of the program," he says.
"The job market is very good with just an undergraduate degree," says Hart, explaining that there are lots of potential employers. "Not only are there positions with regulatory bodies in every county, municipal, state and federal government, graduates can find employment in almost any kind of industry," Hart says. "This is because companies all have Environmental Protection Agency and Occupational Safety & Health Administration requirements. In addition, some states have up to 300 health departments. There's a really huge matrix of potential jobs out there, and employers are always looking for good, well-trained people," he observes.
In addition to excellent entry-level employment prospects, Hart says that upward mobility potential is strong, with supervisor and director opportunities. Some of these require a graduate degree after work experience, but a number of employers assist with education. "For someone motivated, the potential is limitless," he says.


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Feds Raid Gibson; Musicians Now Worried The Gov't Will Take Their Guitars Away
from the norwegian-wood deptLast week, the feds apparently raided the premises of Gibson Guitar, searching for "illegal wood" used in those guitars. Apparently, the government and Gibson have been involved in an ongoing lawsuit for some time, after the feds seized some guitars in 2009 and a case commenced against the wood in the guitar (yes, against the wood, since it was one of those "in rem" cases): "United States of America v. Ebony Wood in Various Forms." Apparently, now the government is taking it up a notch, and while there is a grandfather clause, if you get your paperwork just marginally wrong and happen to own a Gibson guitar with illegal wood, the government could seize it and fine you. Apparently, a bunch of musicians are reasonably afraid, and some suggest not taking any such guitar out of the country if you ever plan on bringing it back:
John Thomas, a law professor at Quinnipiac University and a blues and ragtime guitarist, says "there's a lot of anxiety, and it's well justified." Once upon a time, he would have taken one of his vintage guitars on his travels. Now, "I don't go out of the country with a wooden guitar."And since this is a "strict liability" situation, asking the government for help in making sure you're being legal may actually make things worse. Much worse:
It's not enough to know that the body of your old guitar is made of spruce and maple: What's the bridge made of? If it's ebony, do you have the paperwork to show when and where that wood was harvested and when and where it was made into a bridge? Is the nut holding the strings at the guitar's headstock bone, or could it be ivory? "Even if you have no knowledge—despite Herculean efforts to obtain it—that some piece of your guitar, no matter how small, was obtained illegally, you lose your guitar forever," Prof. Thomas has written. "Oh, and you'll be fined $250 for that false (or missing) information in your Lacey Act Import Declaration."
Consider the recent experience of Pascal Vieillard, whose Atlanta-area company, A-440 Pianos, imported several antique Bösendorfers. Mr. Vieillard asked officials at the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species how to fill out the correct paperwork—which simply encouraged them to alert U.S. Customs to give his shipment added scrutiny.I'm all for not destroying the environment -- and if Gibson is really doing something bad, then that should be dealt with. But some of these other situations just seem flat out ridiculous. Don't the feds have more important things to do?
There was never any question that the instruments were old enough to have grandfathered ivory keys. But Mr. Vieillard didn't have his paperwork straight when two-dozen federal agents came calling.
Facing criminal charges that might have put him in prison for years, Mr. Vieillard pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of violating the Lacey Act, and was handed a $17,500 fine and three years probation.


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I have 2 long stories to tell, but I shall just talk about one first and leave the other story for the next post, because of the time constraint.
If you are also a parent with young kids, I'm sure you will be familiar with the term HFMD - Hand, Foot and Mouth Disease. The number of cases of HFMD has been on the rise at dangerous level for the past few weeks.
Although most of the cases are children, adults can get it too! According to Today newspapers (24 August 2010), of the 18989 cases this year, 7.6% were adults aged 21 years and above. I belong to one of these unfortunate cases. :(
I woke up on National Day (9 August) with a fever and I was already suspecting that I got HFMD. Because my 2 baby twin nieces got it on the previous Friday. Yes, I did hug and kiss them, so I might be spread through their saliva. Besides fever, I got body aches and shivering with cold too.
2 days later, mouth ulcers started to develop in my mouth. Compared to the ulcers we get at times, the ulcers were smaller but there were more. And for my case they appeared mostly at the back of the mouth near the throat. They caused some discomfort when swallowing. By then, I knew I got it.
Another 1 day later, blisters started to appear on my feet and then the hands. The blisters were red, hard, itchy and pain. Those on the feet caused much more pain because they were like needles pricking on your feet for every step you walk.
It took about 1 week to recover, after that the blisters will dry up and skin will start peeling.
I'm writing about HFMD here because I'm sure many of you are parents too and I want to share with you all about the symptons of HFMD. I did not know much about HFMD before I experienced it.
HFMD is caused by a group of about 80 viruses. If you get HFMD from one specific virus, you will develop immunity to that virus and will not be infected by the same virus again. However, if you are exposed to another virus, you can still get it. Which means, you can get HFMD several times.
About 12% of the HFMD cases here are caused by the more dangerous EV71 virus. It is the one that cause complications or deaths.
There is no treatment for HFMD. Doctors will usually give medicines to relieve the symptoms. However, children with problems eating should be sent for treatment immediately.
HFMD starts with fever, ulcers 1-2 days later (use torch to shine into the mouth to check, you won't be able to spot without a torch), blisters on hands and feet another 1-2 days later, some will appear like little red dots, some bigger. Blisters will continue to appear for the next few days.
Parents taking care of children with HFMD must not come into contact with nasal discharge, saliva, faeces and fluid from the blisters. Because adults can get it too!
That's the end of my very long story. Meanwhile, here's my new baking toy. Shall share about it in my next post.


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This may be old news, as I have been away for a while. I was very much pleased to see that searching the Ubuntu Wiki had so much improved. I'm back into pushing stuff to the UWN, and not familiar with the moin syntax. So I looked for some help pages on the wiki and got directed to an useful search page. The 3 first links I got after refining the search terms and options were what I was looking for. Good, very good!
The search page is here, there is a link top right, close by the user prefs one. The options are impressive. See an example below, no more excuses not to search the Wiki :)
If you want to learn about the moin syntax, everything you need is here:
All my thanks to whomever worked on it. Have fun!


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While I had the Phase One Achromatic+ back on loan I decided to do an animal shoot.
I have long had a fascination for Ravens(Corvus corax), the largest member of the Crow family
They crop up not only in the bible but also in Norse mythology, where Odin had two Ravens, one called 'Thought', the other 'Memory'
Ravens are incredibly intelligent, reputed and can even be taught to talk...Really!
But where to find a Raven?
I got in touch with Vanessa Blackburn at Corvidaid, a charity which cares for injured members of the Crow family.
She was more than happy to help but she was not sure how 'Mavis' the Raven would fare, as this was her first big moment as a 'star'
Whats more how would we get her to the location?
Watch the video and see what happened.
We were working right next to a road which had more traffic than we had anticipated, but the location was worth the juggling act, though the warning triangle did come in useful, bear this little trick in mind if you are going to try something like this, for the sake of safety.
I lit the shot with a single Elinchrom Quadra, bare bulb, triggered by Skyport (Lithium Ion batteries for this versatile flash are on the way I hear....)
Without any form of modification it gave off just enough light to give the stark look I was looking for.
The 55mm Schneider lens, with its leaf shutter, was a dream and perfect for the shot, enabling me to get just the right level of ambient light to flash ratio.
It was filtered with a Lee 87 Infra-Red filter which means the only thing hitting that sensor is infra red light(I had the holder on upside down just for good measure.
Interesting to who uses this great filter system, everyone from Joey Lawerence to Diego Huerta.
But this of course means you cannot see anything through the camera which means my tethered set up, made from Manfrotto bits and pieces was the tool for the job.
In case you missed it I did a video for the Manfrotto School of Excellence which explains the set up in detail
All in all it went very well, though if anything the BTS video(shot on the ultimate BTS camera diminutive but super quality Canon XF100) perhaps makes it look easier than it was.....


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Bleak and beautiful, harrowing yet also curiously stirring, "The Wall" ("Die Wand") is a stunning tale of isolation and survival that unfolds in a wild and silent world.
Based on the 1963 novel by Marlen Haushofer, published two years after the Berlin Wall's appearance, "The Wall" begins with a threadbare science fictional proposition which, in Hollywood's hands, would disintegrate after the first reel. One sunny May, a middle-aged woman played by Martina Gedeck ("The Lives of Others," "The Baader Meinhof Complex"), drives with a couple to a hunting lodge in a remote Austrian mountain valley. As a final ironic message from civilization, a pop song blares on the car stereo, "Freedom is a journey to yourself."
We know nothing about her. Her friends walk into town. The next day, she sets out to find them, only to confront an invisible barrier in all directions. When she touches it, the wall buzzes ominously like an impenetrable electric fence.
Logic-bound viewers may roar with frustration. Where did the wall come from? How tall is it? Lady, why not dig under it? But accept the premise, just as our nameless heroine accepts the wall as possibly magic, a force field, or a figment of her demented imagination, and "The Wall" will take you on a brooding psychological journey to that imagined time before humans stained the earth. Think Stephen King's novel (and now TV series) "Under the Dome," minus the noisy, interpersonal brouhaha. Under this dome we find a slow-paced, existential burn.
First-time director-writer Julian Pölsler creates an accidental protagonist more warped than Thoreau. With only her dog Lynx, a stray cow, and two cats as her companions, the woman spends her days in this "bell jar" hunting deer, haying the field, and walking the alpine landscape. Her every move is shaded by the portentous threat of failed survival.
"Sometimes, my thoughts begin to tangle up, and it's as if the forest is growing roots in me," the woman muses, "and thinking its old eternal thoughts with my brain."
Gedeck plays her Crusoe with a mysterious understatement. She barely utters an on-screen word. Rather, we hear quotes from her "report," the diary she's writing. The voice-over permits the story to move back and forth in time between the newly marooned woman just learning how to survive by her wits, and the more grizzled, sometimes shell-shocked survivor falling into a depressive stupor. But the constant chatter also keeps "The Wall" from becoming a masterpiece. Ponderous thoughts like "I must write if I don't want to lose my mind" diminish Pölsler's gradually building argument. Ideas can feel redundant, given the unforgettable landscapes: snow-dipped conifers, stunningly green pastures, and dreary, fairy tale mists, all set in some vague pre- or post-apocalypse. Pölsler should trust the punch of his imagery.
"The Wall" has the air of an Austrian/German co-produced "Twilight Zone" episode, without the cloying moral. It explores what binds us to the animal world, and deftly exposes humanity's true, tenuous place in nature, reduced to its marrow. Compared to the romance of "Walden," "The Wall" shoves extreme self-reliance in our face.
Ethan Gilsdorf can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.com.


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- About Port Colborne
- Accommodations
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Farmers' Market
The Niagara Region has long been known for the quality of its tender fruits and vegetables. What better way to enjoy this freshness than through a visit to Port Colborne's weekly Farmers' Market?
Over 60 vendors from throughout the Niagara Region present their fresh produce, meats, baked goods and a colourful variety of flowers and bedding plants. It is truly a delight for all your senses!
The Market Square is located directly in front of City Hall, 66 Charlotte Street, every Friday morning.
There is free 2 hour time limit parking on downtown streets.
In addition to fresh produce, meats, baked goods, flowers and plants, we welcome area crafters.
Open All Year Round
Thanksgiving (October)
to Victoria Day (May)
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|1:00 pm
Victoria Day (May)
to Thanksgiving (October)
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Contact Information
For more information, please contact:
Diane Deschamps
Market Clerk
City of Port Colborne
66 Charlotte Street
Port Colborne, ON L3K 3C8
Tel: 905-835-2900, Ext 124
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