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User talk:Mzajac
Helsinki slangEdit
By making it a regional category, it becomes 'Helsinki slang Finnish'... and in some cases even 'Helsinki slang English' apparently. I don't think we want that. —CodeCat 01:11, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Wiktionary:Grease pit#Rewrite {{context}}? — {{User:Ruakh/label}}Edit
Hi Michael,
I just wanted to make sure you saw this. I'd welcome your input about any of it, but what I especially want your input on is categorization, since that's a topic that you seem (from the other discussions) to have an opinion about. In this approach, should the subtemplates like
{{label/~medicine}} be categorized? Or . . . ?
Ukrainian toastsEdit
I know the normal tosts in Ukraine are budmo or naz da rovya but I've always heard my family use soemthing that sounds like dai borzha and one time I heard that in a (English language) song. Is this a Canadian usage? I've been lead to believe it means "give them shit" but I don't know how I figured that out. Can't find anything about it online. Kevlar67 (talk) 23:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry about the delay -- busy August.
- на здоров'я (na zdoróvja) means "to your health." The short version is здоров (zdoróv). дай Боже (daj Bóže), literally "give God," means something like "may God grant (our wishes)." будьмо (búd'mo) is less common in my experience; maybe it's a more recent import to Canada from Ukraine. It means "let's be," and I assume it represents "let's be (healthy, happy, etc.)." One might also sometimes hear давай (daváj), meaning "give 'er!" —Michael Z. 2012-08-12 14:59 z
- I'm sorry for butting in, however, Michael, you don't speak Ukrainian well and some of your translations and assumptions are incorrect. It must be said that there is no standard or set way to say "cheers" or something in East Slavic languages and different families or groups may have their own way but "за ваше/твоє здоров'я" would be the most acceptable and most common - "to your health". Although "на здоров'я" is also used occasionally as a toast, especially with foreigners, it's normally a reply to "дякую". The phrase "будьмо" is quite common, so is "пий до дна" ("bottoms up"), "дай боже" should not be used as a toast, it means "(if) God is willing" or "God help us", "давай" simply means "come on", "go for it". --Anatoli (обсудить) 01:19, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the welcome clarifications, Anatoli. На здоров'я and дай Боже are the common toasts among Ukrainian-Canadians, and even familiar to some non-Ukrainians and non-Ukrainophones in the Prairie Provinces. A longer version of the former is пиймо на наше здоров'я – pyjmo na naše zdorovja, "Let's drink to our health". Будьмо is not very common here. Of course, this is mainly the vernacular of Halychany who emigrated here in three different waves in the 1890s–1950s, and their descendants. I haven't spent much time with more recent immigrants or visitors from Ukraine, and of course I wouldn't attempt to describe the language as it is used in Ukraine today. —Michael Z. 2012-08-13 16:46 z
- Yeah, I'm not a Ukrainophone, but I've drank with them many times! and I more often hear дай Боже. In fact during the 2005 Brier (Men's Curling Championships) in Edmononton, the tournament's theme song, otherwise in English, ended with that line. Thanks for clarifying how it is spelled. Kevlar67 (talk) 19:22, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the welcome clarifications, Anatoli. На здоров'я and дай Боже are the common toasts among Ukrainian-Canadians, and even familiar to some non-Ukrainians and non-Ukrainophones in the Prairie Provinces. A longer version of the former is пиймо на наше здоров'я – pyjmo na naše zdorovja, "Let's drink to our health". Будьмо is not very common here. Of course, this is mainly the vernacular of Halychany who emigrated here in three different waves in the 1890s–1950s, and their descendants. I haven't spent much time with more recent immigrants or visitors from Ukraine, and of course I wouldn't attempt to describe the language as it is used in Ukraine today. —Michael Z. 2012-08-13 16:46 z
Pages moved to your user pagesEdit
I moved Mzajac/Transliterator:uk-Latn-scholari to User:Mzajac/Transliterator:uk-Latn-scholarl and analogously two similarly named pages. I assume that's where you wanted them. If so, it's a mistake I've made a couple of times. DCDuring TALK 23:00, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
SAMPA → X-SAMPAEdit
Please stop changing others' signed posts without indicating after their signature, or at the start of the post, that the post was later edited by another. It's bad netiquette in general and AFAICT not done on enwikt in particular. I've just reverted one such of your edits, but I'll leave the rest to you.—msh210℠ (talk) 04:37, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- I haven't changed the content of anyone's post. I am bypassing redirected templates so that their posts would remain the same, if these obsolete templates were to be removed. —Michael Z. 2013-02-17 11:47 z
- Changing
{{X-SAMPA|foo}}is changing content, albeit, as you note, not the displayed version of that content (unless the template is <nowiki>ed out or
{{temp}}ed; I assume you haven't changed any of those?). Still, I think you should leave a note indicating the change. Should I open this question to a wider audience in the BP?—msh210℠ (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
- Changing
- Look,
{{SAMPA}}has redirected to
{{X-SAMPA}}since April 2012,[1] so the output of the page is completely unaffected by my change. I left a brief explanatory note ("bypass template redirect") with my edit, for anyone who is interested in the whys. I've been cleaning up the last few uses of some obsolete templates appropriately, and not messing with links to or mentions of them. "SAMPA" is wrong, for anyone who actually cares, because technically we now use "X-SAMPA." Now that everything is normalized, and everyone has a chance to comment on any evident problems with my changes, and we can collectively delete or redirect the old SAMPA template. —Michael Z. 2013-02-17 19:05 z
- Look,
Wiktionary:Cascading Style SheetsEdit
Not everyone uses Vector. It's probably worth mentioning MediaWiki:Vector.css and so on, but there's little or no benefit to mentioning Special:MyPage/vector.css, and there's certainly no benefit to mentioning it instead of Special:MyPage/common.css. —RuakhTALK 01:16, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
- What is common.css? I put styles in there and nothing happened. It's not mentioned in the linked help page. I assumed you'd made a mistake.
- Vector is the default skin, and the others are mentioned on the linked help page. Also, it works. —Michael Z. 2013-03-03 01:46 z
Gender templatesEdit
I think you made some mistakes.
{{m}} opens an "abbr" tag but closes a "span" tag, and then the reverse happens after that. —CodeCat 01:53, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
- Hi,
- Something is affecting User:Ruakh/Tbot.js, namely gender generation, which I rely on. I wonder if it has to do with work you're doing. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 02:28, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Input needed...Edit
I think your input at WT:Grease pit/2013/March#Bot to add {{head|en}} to Category:English plurals would be valuable. (I can't seem to make the link work) —CodeCat 16:23, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
- Just copy what the page index gives you:
Use numeric entities for "{{" in the readable name:
Or better yet, just rename the heading to something that works. I think [[:Template:head]] might be better than {{temp|head}}). —Michael Z. 2013-03-22 18:42 z
Script templates and headword-linesEdit
You created a new format for headword lines using the strong tag, but the script templates still contain the old code. Do you think you can update them? It might also be a good idea to make a list of all the script templates that use a non-standard format (
{{Xsux}} comes to mind). Those non-standard templates will be a problem when we try to move everything over to CSS. —CodeCat 15:13, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- I can update all of these, given some time. Considering the best way to go about this. I think the documentation should be in style sheet rules and comments – it would inevitably get out of sync with reality, unless it were the reality.~~
- Ideally, we would eliminate the selection of different tags depending on the face= parameter. Currently,
{{Latn}}selects "i" as the element for italic, "b" for bold and headwords, and "span" by default.
{{Cyrl}}on the other hand doesn't select italic text separately, so things like
{{term}}don't show up in italics (by design). What I think would be nice is if we just applied the same tags irrespective of the script, and let the CSS handle the differences. For example, we could put a rule in CSS that says: "i" with and/or within class "Cyrl" displays normal, non-italic text. I think to avoid too many problems, we could try that approach for Latn, Cyrl, Grek and polytonic and see how it works out? —CodeCat 19:15, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- Ideally, we would eliminate the selection of different tags depending on the face= parameter. Currently,
- The behaviour in
{{Latn}}is the following:
- The behaviour in
- ital →
- head →
- bold →
- term →

- span →
- ital →
- Do you know if there are other possible values? Do you know if there are any docs for face? —Michael Z. 2013-03-25 20:43 z
- Currently, no. But you could always find out by temporarily putting a category into the template, that is added only if the face= parameter isn't one of those five values. Something like:
{{#switch:{{{face|}}}|ital|head|bold|term|span=|#default=[[Category:something]]}}. —CodeCat 20:51, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
- Currently, no. But you could always find out by temporarily putting a category into the template, that is added only if the face= parameter isn't one of those five values. Something like:
- Do you know if there are other possible values? Do you know if there are any docs for face? —Michael Z. 2013-03-25 20:43 z
Romanization and definition lineEdit
You have reverted my post to Beer parlour without an explanation, in diff. I have reposted to Beer parlour, as I see no grounds for your reversal. The section that you have removed from Beer parlour is linked from Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2013-03/Romanization and definition line. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:04, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- I am sorry. The watchlist text is too dense, and I hit a rollback link on my touch screen with my fat finger. I reloaded the page's history thrice, and couldn't find the rollback, so I was sure that I had hit the browser's stop button in time. It's not the first time, and I'm not sure how to avoid this. —Michael Z. 2013-03-30 18:41 z
- Okay, I have added a script to User:Mzajac/common.js which throws up a confirmation dialogue for rollbacks. Won't happen again. —Michael Z. 2013-03-30 19:09 z
- No hard feelings. I should have thought it was just an error. --Dan Polansky (talk) 21:23, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
You seem to be very aware of HTMl standards, so could you have a look at the code in this table and see if it's all ok? —CodeCat 23:06, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
- I'd like to keep the layout, though, if possible :) To match other Russian inflection tables. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 00:19, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- The
rulesattributes on a table are "non-conforming features" which "must not be used by authors."[2] They can't be replaced with inline elements, unless we add a style attribute to every cell. Otherwise, it is fine, but I will see about making a style sheet to pare down the inline code. —Michael Z. 2013-04-10 00:27 z
- The
- Not sure what you mean. This is easy to do with selectors in a style sheet. Inline CSS is no good because it is inherently restricted in scope, among other reasons. —Michael Z. 2013-04-10 03:08 z
- What mean is, you're not able to say: "here is a style sheet, apply it to this element and its children, but leave the rest of the page alone". Instead, you have to edit the global stylesheet, which is more cumbersome especially on a Wiki where user rights are restricted. —CodeCat 16:04, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean. This is easy to do with selectors in a style sheet. Inline CSS is no good because it is inherently restricted in scope, among other reasons. —Michael Z. 2013-04-10 03:08 z
- Ah. HTML5 has added exactly that, with the scope attribute for style elements. But MediaWiki doesn't allow style sheets in the text. The implementation of scope is such that it breaks in every old browser (currently, every release browser), so I don't expect to ever see this in MW.
- Anyway, style sheets are much more powerful, and I think we have enough problems with editors using Wikitext like MS Word, plopping presentational  elements everywhere and being fooled by the CMS into thinking they have made some webs. And don't get me started on discussion threading with "
:::::" There are good reasons to separate structure and presentation. —Michael Z. 2013-04-10 17:14 z
- Anyway, style sheets are much more powerful, and I think we have enough problems with editors using Wikitext like MS Word, plopping presentational  elements everywhere and being fooled by the CMS into thinking they have made some webs. And don't get me started on discussion threading with "
I have done sample generic and ru-verb tables at User:Mzajac/temp. The CSS is in MediaWiki:Common.css, starting after the comment "Inflection tables." You may have to shift-reload or whatever makes your browser update the style sheet.
The table structure looks like this:
table.inflection.inflection-verb // generic verb table
table.inflection.inflection-ru.inflection-verb // Russian verb table tr th // regular header on the left td td tr.rowgroup // horizontal header row th th th tr.divider // has a dark border-top th th th
The code could be simpler for editors if wikitext didn't filter out some HTML table elements. Please vote for these bugs:
Script error on your user pageEdit
There is a script error on User:Mzajac/English inflection-line templates, because
{{head}} is missing a parameter. Since the page seems to be intended to test the effect of parameters, I thought that might be important. —CodeCat 13:35, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
This page is appearing in some of the term cleanup categories, because it uses
{{term}} without a language. It looks like the page is left over from something older, so can it be safely deleted? —CodeCat 19:03, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Could you have a look at this?Edit
WT:Beer parlour/2013/May#Do we really need horizontal rules between language sections? —CodeCat 16:10, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
berry blueEdit
You do realize that those citations aren't published by Jell-O or Yoplait, and as such aren't the advertising copy you claim them to be? You do realize that berry blue/Berry Blue is offered by a whole buncha companies, not just those two, and as such is a flavor just like rocky road? And you do realize that at this point, you're essentially on a disruptive one-man crusade to get this article deleted? Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 18:16, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- You ought to realize that badgering people on their talk pages is a waste of time. —Michael Z. 2013-06-05 19:05 z
- So is badgering at RfV, which you've been doing disruptively. You've got to realize that you're the only person who sees it that way Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 02:22, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Belarusian templatesEdit
Are you able to make this template look better without changing the order and functionality, please: Template:be-decl-adj? The spacing is bad, see геаграфічны or новы. The template is not used directly but by calling templates: Template:be-adj1, etc. later I'll start Ukrainian adj. templates by copy-editing these. will have to find out more about all declension types for adjectives first. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 06:11, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
- Got it.
{{be-adj1}}had a lot of line breaks in the parameters, which were treated as wikitext, and converted to

(paragraph) tags.[4] I presume
{{be-adj2}}etc. need the same treatment. I'm out of time today, but let me know if you would like me to go through them (how many are there?). Also
{{be-decl-adj}}had a couple of extra

tags.[5] —Michael Z. 2013-06-20 23:49 z
- Thank you. So you have removed the

tags? Maybe the transliteration should then be in brackets - see цёмны? лёгкі, which uses another template probably looks better with
- The others all belong to the same category: Category:Belarusian_adjective_inflection-table_templates - five altogether, they seems to cover all Belarusian adjectives. Please fix, if you can.
- There won't be many Ukrainian adjective declension types (if pronouns are not included - мій, чий), I reckon 6 as a max - 1 hard (твердий), two soft (синій, безкраїй), and each can possibly be root-stressed and ending stressed (нови́й - ending stressed will need a different template). --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 00:16, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you. So you have removed the
- Yes, I removed the extra breaks.
- Oops, yes round brackets for the transliteration would be better. I find that having them on the same line makes it easier to understand the table by grouping each translit with its original, and each group to its table header on the same line. It also looks neater and less gap-toothed in a very wide window, while wrapping as expected in a very narrow window.
- Hi Michael, thank you for fixing
{{be-decl-adj}}. I rolled back your change on

), though. User:Vedac13's preference is to have them. The tables look much better now.--Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 07:57, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Michael, thank you for fixing
Further work on the script templatesEdit
I have created
{{script helper}}, which essentially acts as a single "universal" script template. I have added it to a few of the existing script templates like
{{Cyrl}} and it seems to work. My goal at this point is to find ways to do this for every script template, so that when it's done the templates won't be needed at all anymore because they all share the same code. The changes I make also involve making modifications to MediaWiki:Common.css so that any functionality that is lost from the script template by the "merger" is compensated by changes in the CSS. For example,
{{Cyrl}} originally did not apply the "mention" class for face=term, but
{{script helper}} does, so the styling for ".Cyrl.mention" had to be overridden in the CSS so that it did not apply the default italic styling. Similar things probably need to be done for headword lines as well (I know for
{{Goth}} it does). I'm letting you know all this in case you would like to help out. —CodeCat 15:38, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
An example of a problem with the ambiguity between topic and usage context. DCDuring TALK 14:14, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
I have been converting script templates to use
{{script helper}} and all of them are now done, except for this one. I added a category to it, to categorise if the second parameter is given. And it turns out no pages actually use that feature, so all of them really just use the default and this might as well be turned into a regular script code template using
{{script helper}}. Do you know if it would be desirable to keep the different varieties that are implemented by this template, in one form or another? Maybe we could make language-specific versions like "akk-Xsux" (stage 4), "sux-Xsux" (stage 6) if we really want to. —CodeCat 17:47, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- I did a bit of reading on the subject, but input from a subject expert would be helpful.
- The 1-through-7 parameter is meant to allow comprehensive support for writing style. I think it might be similar to providing support for Fraktur font in English (
en-Latf). It would be nice for accurately reproducing original quotations, but is not needed for defining dictionary terms.
- I think in practice we really only need standard language support, which I have tried to summarize in Template_talk:Xsux#lang. —Michael Z. 2013-07-28 18:14 z
- Can
{{Xsux}}be replaced with a call to
{{script helper}}at this point? —CodeCat 18:26, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Can
Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2013/July#Can we phase out the script code templates?Edit
This probably interests you... —CodeCat 01:49, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
More Ukrainian adjective declension typesEdit
I've made three Ukrainian adjective declension templates (Category:Ukrainian adjective inflection-table templates) - 1. for -ий (stem stressed), 2. for -и́й (ending stressed), 3. for -ій (stem stressed). I know there's an adjective ending in -їй (безкра́їй) but I can't think of other examples. Do you know any Ukrainian adjectives ending in stressed -і́й? --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 01:27, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Problems with !important in CSSEdit
I thought that putting !important in a CSS class would force it to apply that style above any others. But it doesn't seem to work in all cases. For example, if you type
text then it comes out as text. That's not correct, the !important directive on the font-style: normal should override the italics. Why does it still display in italics? Is there no way to say "nothing inside this element should be italic, ever"? —CodeCat 21:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- The deprecated i is messing up here, either
textor (preferably)
textshould be used. (give text and text respectively) --Z 21:31, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- But it would be nice if we could make something like
{{lang|ja|text ''italic'' '''bold'''}}behave nicely too. —CodeCat 21:33, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- We can use
.Jpan i { font-style: normal; !important }and
.Jpan b { font-weight: normal; !important }--Z 22:01, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- We'd have to do that for every script though. Is there no easier way? —CodeCat 22:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- We can use the grouping feature, e.g.
.Jpan i, .Taml i, .Deva i { font-style: normal; !important }--Z 22:28, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- That's true. I was just hoping we could keep all the styling grouped per script. —CodeCat 22:48, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- Oh. No I don't think there is. But grouping like this is a bit better:
.Jpan, .Jpan i { font-style: normal; !important (...) }
.Deva, .Deva i { font-style: normal; !important (...) }? For disabling boldface we have to do this, but for italics in example sentences we can use a class in
{{usex}}/Module:usex instead of i, this way no other styling needs to be changed and the "font-style: normal; !important" parts will work. --Z 23:31, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- Oh. No I don't think there is. But grouping like this is a bit better:
- That's true. I was just hoping we could keep all the styling grouped per script. —CodeCat 22:48, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- We can use the grouping feature, e.g.
- We'd have to do that for every script though. Is there no easier way? —CodeCat 22:23, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- We can use
- But it would be nice if we could make something like
!important keyword makes the declaration trump any other declaration for the selected HTML element. So it will override any other styles for
.Jpan. But as far as I can tell, it doesn't trump the style specificity of nested elements.
So in this case, you would need to select something like
.Jpan, .Jpan i, .Jpan em { font-style: normal; }. I don't think the
!important is necessary, because
.Jpan i {} is more specific than the basic selector
i {}.
(Also, avoid using
!important whenever possible. It makes normal specificity stop working, and may have unintended effects. It forces users to use
!important in their own style sheets, which may reduce accessibility.)
This exposes some problems with our whole class-based selector system for styling language scripts. What if the Japanese text quotes some English text? Then italics in the English-language quotation would be incorrectly neutered.
The CSS
:lang() selector works fundamentally differently. In our example,
.Jpan only selects the outer span, and we hope that its styles cascade to the span's children, like the nested i. In contrast, HTML language is inherited by child elements, unless overridden by another
lang attribute, so
:lang(ja) actually selects both the span and the nested i element so just the simple
:lang(ja) { font-style: normal; } would work.
Unfortunately, the lang selector only respects the first fragment of a language code, so you can't select
:lang(ja-Japn) vs.
The script-based class system was created to work around MSIE 6's text-display bugs which made international text unreadable. We should stop relying on this for cosmetic purposes and in HTML5 web browsers. We should stop creating hundreds of exceptions in browser rendering. We should stop relying on locally-installed fonts, and only use web fonts that we can serve up, and only when necessary for basic readability. (Of course these are unachievable ideals, but we should work to stop our code from growing more unmanageably convoluted.) —Michael Z. 2013-08-12 17:01 z
Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2013/August#Automated_linking_of_IPA_characters_to_their_corresponding_WP_entry --Z 07:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Is this function of Module:IPA able to generate X-SAMPA from IPA 100% safely? --Z 10:13, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
- The testing is minimal: just what you see on the docs page. And the function has been updated since I wrote it – it looks okay at a glance, although currently I think the 4 to 6-character long symbols won't be transliterated (the ones at the bottom of Module:IPA/data). Double-check with User:ZxxZxxZ who has been updating it. —Michael Z. 2013-08-30 17:53 z
Keeping RfV balancedEdit
Greetings! Since you have recently added new discussions to Wiktionary:Requests for verification, please help to keep the page from becoming overgrown by helping to advance, close, or archive some old discussions. Cheers! bd2412 T 11:26, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
I am trying to unravel various problems I'm having. One recent problem (I don't know exactly how recent.) is with the disappearance of the control that allows the display of items in rel listings. It doesn't seem to occur in N0, but does in my user page, qv, from two platforms, laptop and mobile. Could your recent change have any bearing on this? DCDuring TALK 17:48, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- I reverted my last change to Template:rel-top, just to see.[6] (Was only rel-top affected? There's also Template:rel-top4, &c.) Let me know if this makes any differences.
- I was able to expand every box on User:DCDuring in Safari 6.0.5/Mac. —Michael Z. 2013-09-20 14:55 z
- Just a stab in the dark: if this doesn't help, try blanking out your User:DCDuring/common.js to troubleshoot this. —Michael Z. 2013-09-20 14:59 z
- I have elimnated all of my css and js customization and now have lost some of the things I liked to have, but have regained the use of the controls. I've used kephir's latest method of killing webfonts, which was leading to various unwanted fonts overwriting (I could see it happen.) that I liked. My problem sometimes included both the quotation control and the rel-top control, but they didn't always occur on the same page at the same time, so I thought they might well be separate problems. It may indeed be some more general problem, what kephir calls a "race condition". I found that inserting {{l/en| }} on problem pages seemed to work. (Why would that be?) Then I deleted that and it still worked. (???) Things seem to be balanced on a knife edge. The several layers of software in a real-time environment do seem to make for a lot of complexity and unpredictability. Is more self-restraint or professionalism required? Is that practical with volunteers?
- Do der-top and rel-top have the same basic code? DCDuring TALK 15:21, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- Sometimes just doing a null edit – saving a page with no changes nor edit summary – makes all of the templates on the page update their content, and might fix a problem (or reveal one). Maybe that's behind the mysterious {{l/en| }} fix.
- As far as I know, it is only the following code that makes all of the collapsible headers work. Unless your CSS affects the display
or classof these elements, it shouldn't interfere with the controls. I am not a Javascript expert, but I think there may be many opportunities for JS to screw them up.
- As far as I know, it is only the following code that makes all of the collapsible headers work. Unless your CSS affects the display

...

...

- In a while, I will continue with cleaning up the HTML in those templates, but it is not urgent.
- A project that has live-edited templates, CSS, Javascript, and Lua, running on a server framework updated by a third party, will always stand a risk of breaking without warning. Only copies of the project from database dumps or print-outs will ever promise 100% reliability. The fix would be to have one Wiktionary for editors and one for readers. —Michael Z. 2013-09-20 15:58 z
- From a cursory glance I couldn't even determine how the fonts are configured – as far as I can tell it might require a Bugzilla request to the developers, which would not bode well for us.
- I'm sure there is no technical reason to require web fonts. With web fonts we can specify one font that works, rather a whole list that no one has even tested. And overcome the problem of users not being able to install fonts, especially on mobile where it is often impossible. A problem might be the sheer download size where many languages appear on one page. —Michael Z. 2013-09-20 16:53 z
- Thanks for taking a run at this and for some answers to my questions. If I could have figured more out myself, maybe I wouldn't have grasped at this straw. There are so many things that are going wrong lately, that I am now hesitant to bring some up, like browser-specific preferences not working so well (eg, fonts under search box). DCDuring TALK 17:06, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sure there is no technical reason to require web fonts. With web fonts we can specify one font that works, rather a whole list that no one has even tested. And overcome the problem of users not being able to install fonts, especially on mobile where it is often impossible. A problem might be the sheer download size where many languages appear on one page. —Michael Z. 2013-09-20 16:53 z
- For text entry, I suggest you find something that works in your OS, rather than depending on a gadget attached to a field on a website. On the Mac, I use the built-in Character Viewer palette (enabled in System Preferences > Language & Text > Input Sources), and have made some custom keyboard layouts with Ukelele. I can't help if you're on Windows, but there must be something along these lines at SIL or elsewhere.
ruby sizeEdit
Hi there, I notice that ruby is a bit bigger. It's easier to read but now it matches up with the text less than it did before and hangs off the edges of words, and worse yet it sometimes pushes the kanji below apart, so we end up with text with gaps such as here. Is there some way to address this? Thanks --Haplology (talk) 12:30, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- I will move the conversation to Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2013/October#Using_furigana. —Michael Z. 2013-10-18 16:38 z
You seem to be good at this. Is there a way to specify different font families for Old Armenian (
xcl) and Armenian (
hy)? Both use Armn script --Vahag (talk) 17:45, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
- The Wiktionary way to do this is to create separate language classes
hy-Armn. See the
.Arabexamples in MediaWiki:Common.css, and templates like
{{fa-Arab}}. I'm glad to help if you are not confident figuring out the details.
- (We should really start using standard language codes to code languages, instead of our private class system – this is a big project on my long list.) —Michael Z. 2013-10-27 15:51 z
- Well, if it is the right thing to do, I will help make it happen. But is it?
- Cyrillic (
Cyrl) and Old Slavonic Cyrillic (
Cyrs) use different fonts because they are considered different script systems, with very different orthographic and typographic conventions. The average literate Ukrainian might find it impossible to read a document in the old orthography. In en.Wiktionary, Cyrs is only used for Old Church Slavonic, modern Church Slavonic, and Old East Slavic. Living languages that switched from the old script to the new, like Belarusian, Russian and Ukrainian, are only represented in the modern script (although it might be an open question whether very old citations should be presented in their original orthography).
- Cyrillic (
- I believe that Arabic script is differentiated because some languages need to select specialized fonts to write them correctly. Likewise polytonic ancient Greek. In these cases we are dealing with the same writing system and script code, but we need to overcome shortcomings of common fonts for "specialized" forms of language. Don't know the details. —Michael Z. 2013-10-27 18:27 z
- Add the following to your common.css to humour yourself:
*:lang(xcl) { font-family: code2000, sans-serif; }
- Thanks, it works! I had added myself to WebFonts disabler at MediaWiki:Common.js. By the way, when I increase the font size, it increases non-uniformly for different elements of the page. For example, in Վահագն the headword is not very much bigger, elements in
{{l}}are a lot bigger, the text in the quotation is only slightly bigger. Even more weirdly, this edit makes the word in the first
{{term}}smaller than in other
{{term}}s. --Vahag (talk) 19:59, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks, it works! I had added myself to WebFonts disabler at MediaWiki:Common.js. By the way, when I increase the font size, it increases non-uniformly for different elements of the page. For example, in Վահագն the headword is not very much bigger, elements in
- Oops, that was not a good rule. When, e.g.,
is inside of
, both of the nested elements resolve as
:lang(xcl), so the 150% relative size is applied twice. Try overriding Wiktionary's rule when it applies to Old Armenian, instead:
- Oops, that was not a good rule. When, e.g.,
.Armn:lang(xcl) {
font-family: TITUS Cyberbit Basic, sans-serif;
font-size: 150%;
Hi. Do you cherish Template:R:Melnychuk 1982 much? Would you mind if I converted all its instances to the identical Template:R:uk:ESUM? The latter's format is more in line with the majority of other reference templates, e.g. the ones in Category:Russian reference templates. --Vahag (talk) 23:35, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
- I don't care about the particular template. But are you suggesting that we cite references in their native language rather than English? That seems wrong. —Michael Z. 2013-11-16 23:39 z
- I am not suggesting anything new. The usual Wiktionary practice is to cite references in their native language, in native script for Cyrillic and Greek and in transliteration for other scripts. Browse Category:Reference templates by language. The English name is sometimes given in parentheses. It is my impression from reading professional linguistic literature, that this is the usual practice in real world as well. Native names are unambiguous. --Vahag (talk) 09:06, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- On Wikipedia citation templates have trans_title= parameter to specify a translation which is then listed in brackets. Perhaps we should simply copy w:Template:citation and its infrastructure and use it in individual reference templates. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 09:43, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- That is a great idea. It will allow us to standardize the format of references. Does w:Template:citation allow complex external linking, as in Template:R:sla:ESSJa? --Vahag (talk) 11:00, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- On Wikipedia citation templates have trans_title= parameter to specify a translation which is then listed in brackets. Perhaps we should simply copy w:Template:citation and its infrastructure and use it in individual reference templates. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 09:43, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- I am not suggesting anything new. The usual Wiktionary practice is to cite references in their native language, in native script for Cyrillic and Greek and in transliteration for other scripts. Browse Category:Reference templates by language. The English name is sometimes given in parentheses. It is my impression from reading professional linguistic literature, that this is the usual practice in real world as well. Native names are unambiguous. --Vahag (talk) 09:06, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- English-language libraries and academic publications use ALA-LC transliteration for foreign-language citations. This is English Wiktionary for English readers. According to what logic would we cite sources in foreign script for an arbitrary list of several dozen languages plus Greek, but not for all others?
- I do not mind using transliterations for all scripts and giving a translation in square brackets. But the transliteration should be done automatically from the original name, as in Template:R:hy:Kend1. --Vahag (talk) 18:04, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
- Automatic, preferably yes. But libraries catalogue works under "Ṛuben S. Ghazaryan," not "Ṙuben S. Łazaryan."[7][8] If it is not practical now, we should aspire to work toward using ALA-LC romanization for bibliographic information in any language. —Michael Z. 2013-11-17 22:53 z
I have moved Melnychuk and Rudnyc'kyj to Template:R:uk:ESUM and Template:R:uk:EDUL respectively. --Vahag (talk) 15:07, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Adding fonts to the Universal Language SelectorEdit
Привет Зайчик! Would you happen to know who to ask to get fonts added to the Universal Language Selector? I noticed that no fonts there support Glagolitic and I did some research and decided that BukyVede and Dilyana are probably the two best choices (see here for links). We already list these fonts in at MediaWiki:Common.css, but most people wouldn't have them installed. I also noticed that Code2000 seems to be broken for Glagolitic, displaying them in a weird font and missing many characters. See ⰿⰾⱑⰽⱁ (mlěko) for an example of Glagolitic. --WikiTiki89 05:24, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- Hi. The FAQ says to file a bug on Bugzilla. I see there is already this one filed, but could use your input. —Michael Z. 2013-11-24 10:02 z
- Unfortunately, Bukyvede is not free. We'd have to track down the licence info for any font to be included. —Michael Z. 2013-11-24 10:04 z
- The embedded info says "Copyright (c) 2008 by R. M. Cleminson. All rights reserved." It appears to be distributed by Prof. Cleminson, but I don't see any licence or terms. Perhaps you can contact him and suggest that it be released with a Wiki-compatible licence.
- I'll take a look. If only the Unicode consortium could release the fonts they use for their lovely PDFs... --WikiTiki89 20:26, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- Is http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/de/deed.en_GB a compatible license? If so, the Glagolica Missal DPG font here is decent, although not the best. --WikiTiki89 21:16, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- I'll take a look. If only the Unicode consortium could release the fonts they use for their lovely PDFs... --WikiTiki89 20:26, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Narrow tablesEdit
Hi. You didn't answer. --Vahag (talk) 21:58, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- Oops, forgot about this one. I will try it out in my common.css. If that works, it can go in MediaWiki:Common.css, so it would apply in any theme or skin. —Michael Z. 2014-01-26 22:03 z
- Put the text
div.NavFrame { overflow: visible; }into your Special:MyPage/common.css.
- Put the text
- I want to try this out for a bit and see if it breaks any other NavFrames. If it's okay, then we just have to remove div.NavFrame { ...
overflow: autofrom MediaWiki:Common.css. —Michael Z. 2014-01-26 22:32 z
- I want to try this out for a bit and see if it breaks any other NavFrames. If it's okay, then we just have to remove div.NavFrame { ...
- It's better now. The table expands just enough for horizontal scrolling to disappear. Still, it is too narrow and looks ugly. I don't understand why the tables can't take the whole width of the screen for people who do have additional space. The reasoning for this change in Typography Refresh is that people scan text better if it is narrow. That's true and I have been enjoying Typography Refresh on Wikipedia. But the same can't be true for tables. --Vahag (talk) 22:48, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- If we can unify our inflection tables into a set of classes and styles, then we could design them in more detail. If the data cells, or the spans in them, had
white-space: nowrap, then this would be much more readable now.
- If we can unify our inflection tables into a set of classes and styles, then we could design them in more detail. If the data cells, or the spans in them, had
СНХ (эс-эн-ха́)Edit
[regarding Russian translation in sovnarkhoz. —MZ]
Hi Michael,
Russian abbreviations are often respelled and pronounced in a non-standard way, that's why they are usually re-transliterated to show this. The correct and a more common pronunciation of Russian abbreviations may cause problems for native speakers or there are variants. There's little consistency and logic in the pronunciation of abbreviations, letters are often misread, not following their official names. ФБР "фэ-бэ-эр", США "сэ-шэ-а/сша", ОБХСС "о-бэ-хэ-эс(-эс)", ФРГ фэ-эр-гэ, СССР (эс-)эс-эс-эр, РСФСР "э-рэ-сэ-фэ-сэр/эр-эс-эф-эс-э́р" but ГУМ, МХАТ, МГИМО, ГОСТ, ТАСС, ГЭС, МИД are respelled as if they were normal nouns - гум, мхат, мгимо, гост, мид, etc. not "гэ-у-эм", etc. The alternative to manual transliteration is to show their phonetic respelling or IPA, which is never done on translations, or
{{qualifier|pronounced: "эс-эн-ха́"}}. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 04:31, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Also, many dictionaries fail to show how to pronounce those abbreviations, rare exceptions are names of countries or official organisations, where the respelling/pronunciation is "prescribed", like РСФСР "эр-эс-эф-эс-э́р" or СССР "эс-эс-эс-э́р", even though these suggestions are seldom followed. Do you have another suggestions rather than transliterating СНХ like this: СНХ m (SNX) instead of СНХ m (es-en-xá) ("эс-эн-ха́")? --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 04:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that there's no need to duplicate this everywhere the word appears. If someone wants to know how it's pronounced, they can click on it and check the pronunciation section. And as Michael said, you can use the respellings in the pronunciation section. --WikiTiki89 05:31, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I guess Anatoli meant in translation sections? There's only so much info that should go there. In these one-liners, identifying the word (e.g., ФБР = FBR) to non-Cyrillic readers is more important than explaining how it is pronounced. —Michael Z. 2014-01-28 05:39 z
Anatoli, you are still not getting it. The guideline says "Do not add the pronunciation of the translation or detailed grammatical information: such information should be provided on the page for the translation itself." —Michael Z. 2014-01-28 05:58 z
- I created the entry for СНХ, hopefully that will help anyone wondering how to pronounce it. --WikiTiki89 06:09, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
I too think phonetic respelling should be shown in the pronunciation section of the Russian entry. Anatoli, you put too much information in the translation table, like gender, stress, qualifiers, phonetic respelling... This is not a bilingual English-Russian dictionary. The Russian sections exist for showing such information. --Vahag (talk) 09:46, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Per-language pagesEdit
Maybe we should start writing a proposal on a dedicated Wiktionary: page somewhere. That way there is more room to work out proposals and problems, things that would need to be done, how far we got, and so on. —CodeCat 19:51, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sounds okay, if there is basic support for the idea. I just wanted to throw it out in the GP in case I was missing some obvious disadvantages or overwhelming opposition. —Michael Z. 2014-02-02 20:08 z
- I wrote a basic overview page at Wiktionary:Per-language pages proposal. —CodeCat 21:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
right-aligned image squeezes the paragraph to about 6 letters wideEdit
Re this edit: Yet another downside of the Typography Refresh? --WikiTiki89 20:31, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Well, yeah. But I would call it a downside of any editor assuming everyone reads Wiktionary through the same interface (a few of our editors don't even use the current wiki skin).
- Even more fundamentally, a downside of using nested definition list definitions for indentation. Reading on a small display can make the window even narrower than the Typography Refresh/Update does. —Michael Z. 2014-02-05 20:38 z
- Yes, and editors have been messing with image positioning in long discussion pages for just as long. What the TR/U has changed is that the discussion page has a different width than its preview. That's just self-defeating. —Michael Z. 2014-02-05 20:54 z
- In the interest of getting it fixed, I posted a comment at mw:Talk:Typography refresh#Previewing discussion is broken.
- Yes, except that it would not be what responsive means in web design. And that it is bad design to let 12-px running text wrap to the width of an HD or 4K display. And it would would look like the late 20th century. —Michael Z. 2014-02-05 22:20 z
- You're right, preference is important.
- Reading speed is not the only thing that we should be concerned with. The amount of content that can fit on the screen at once is also important, especially if you are jumping from section to section and comparing things. Aesthetics is also important, and it doesn't look very nice when more than half the screen is blank. --WikiTiki89 05:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi Michael,
FYI. In case you have any resources or you wish to contribute. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 02:39, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
A discussion about pregenerating entries (Ukrainian)Edit
Запрошую взяти участь у бесіді про масове генерування українських статей у Вікісловнику - Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2014/May#Pregenerating_entries. Ти не повинен брати зобов'язання перекладати, але я думаю, це питання для тебе має бути важливим. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 03:01, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Topical categoriesEdit
I would like to talk a bit more about possible ways to improve these, continuing on our discussion in the BP. Firstly, what do you think of the tree as it is now? Is it better? —CodeCat 22:07, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Font questionEdit
Do you know if I can control the font of transliterations via my custom.css? I have ordered Chrome to display the Latin script in Arial, which it does except for the transliterations, which are shown in the default browser font. --Vahag (talk) 21:40, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
- Reconstructed terms too do not obey me. Aren't they Latn? --Vahag (talk) 21:48, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
- Try ".tr" instead. Reconstructions (for unattested languages) are "Latinx". --Z 22:52, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
- "Try ".tr" instead." Like this? Transliterations in headword lines and Middle Persian in Latin are still rebelling. Other transliterations and reconstructed terms are fixed. --Vahag (talk) 07:31, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- Try ".tr" instead. Reconstructions (for unattested languages) are "Latinx". --Z 22:52, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Привіт, Михайло. Ти хотів би спробувати сили у Holodomor? --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 03:28, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Okay Anatoli, I finally gave it a shot. Please review.
- I struggled to create a usage note about the sensitivity of or controversy over the term, but I can't find any clear indication in published English sources. I think it is really the subject and its details, that are debated (e.g., 2m or 10m victims, deliberate genocide or economic necessity, a tragedy of the Ukrainian nation or Soviet state?), but the use of this name for the event appears to be accepted in English publishing. I don't think it's useful to include a note that essentially says "the English term Holodomor is objectionable to Holodomor deniers and Stalinists." —Michael Z. 2014-09-08 19:54 z
- Thanks, Michael. The article looks good to me. I'm not sure about the usage note myself. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 22:45, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Help on CSS?Edit
I have created a large number hypernyms sections for taxonomic name entries. They all share one feature: extensive use of "&.nbsp;-", sometimes the use is in templates (See Category:Taxonomic hypernym templates), sometimes not. In any event, whenever a Translingual section has a space followed by a dash, the space should be a nonbreaking space. Can CSS compel this to occur? I envision the application of a style whose scope was limited to the taxonomic portion of a Translingual L2. Any advice, including RTFM with direction to the most appropriate M, would be appreciated. DCDuring TALK 21:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- CSS can apply
white-space: nowrap;to any element. But if you can use a template or something to put in an appropriate element as a handle for this, then you probably may as well just put in a non-breaking space. This would also survive a text-only copy-paste or other reuse of the text. I don't know about other OSes, but on my Mac typing alt-space enters a literal non-breaking space, which is easier and less cluttering than a code like
- (Instead of a hyphen, you should be entering an en dash – like the one in this sentence.)
- Why not use parentheses or a colon instead, which might better indicate the relation between a hypernym and its explanation? —Michael Z. 2014-09-08 16:19 z
- Thanks for the advice. Sadly I would have to hold down my alt key and type '0160' to enter a non-breaking space in Windows. Are you sure an invisible non-breaking space is better than '&.nbsp;' anyway?
- As to your question, per WT:ELE the content under the Hypernyms is supposed to preceded by
{{sense}}and a 'gloss' or other unique sense identifier. For taxonomic name entries, I have been using the taxon type ('species', 'order', 'clade') for that. An individual content item may be followed by a vernacular name or another attribute enclosed in parentheses. But the content items are also of one or more taxon types (eg, 'family', but also some genera not assigned to any family). It is this last function that is served by an indication such as " - species" after the last item of the species type. This parallels the treatment of items under the Hyponyms header and, occasionally, the Synonyms and Coordinate terms headers for taxonomic names. Some other editors have used
{{a}}for indicating the taxon type, but IMO this can cause confusion when there are also attributes associated with individual items under the various semantic relations headers (eg, Hypernyms).DCDuring TALK 17:16, 8 September 2014 (UTC)


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Venerable Dr. Pannavati, a yogini, former Christian pastor, founding Co-Abbot of Embracing Simplicity Hermitage, and a founding director of Sisters of Compassionate Wisdom (a 21st century trans-lineage Buddhist order), ordained in Theravada and Chan Schools, a Zen Dharma Holder and Vajrayana practitioner as well, Ven. Pannavati's insight is rich with compassion, wit and humor. Known for her ordination of Thai and Cambodian nuns, work with homeless youth in Appalachia, and ministry to the "untouchables" in India, she is the recipient of multiple Outstanding Women in Buddhism Awards, and received a special commendation from HRH Princess Chulabhorn of Thailand for humanitarian service towards women and children. A guest speaker at Buddhafest in Washington DC this year, and returning next year, in 2013, she also guest teaches at many communities including Insight NY and Spirit Rock's CDL program.
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An important dynamic in any relationship is one's general level of contentment in life.
As a single, you are somewhere on the range of contentment. You might be extremely content or very discontented, or anywhere in between.
When people marry, their range of contentment can shift in either direction, or it can stay relatively the same as it was when both parties were single.1 If it's higher post-marriage, then you've found the goldmine. If it's lower, you've unfortunately found the landmine! Before marriage, most anticipate that exchanging rings will lead to the goldmine.
Many factors play into which mine you are likely to strike after marriage. If you experienced a low level of contentment as a single, expecting marriage to propel you to marital bliss probably won't happen. On the other hand, if you are already highly content as a single, you very well may find marriage to be the goldmine. Wherever you're at right now, if you're not content, don't count on marriage to make everything better!
Often there are spiritual and emotional issues that we need to address. If you've encountered pain in your life that hasn't been faced, please take the time to work through it now before marriage. I'm not saying a person who's struggled in life can't be a good spouse, but it often takes more work to get there. Wishing away the hurt isn't going to resolve it. God can help you face the circumstances that were not the way you would have written life's script. God's power, your openness, and often the support of a counsellor and community, are key in your move toward wholeness. Jesus said in Matthew 5:4, "Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted." Burying our pain only delays the inevitable.
It's OK to expect your friend to deal with his/her pain before getting married! Imagine two construction workers standing next to the Leaning Tower of Pisa. How silly would it be for one to say to the other, "So when do we start the addition?" The structure needs to be shored up before you can add to it and expect it to survive and thrive over time. Wounds in life happen, often without our vote, but each one of us has a choice about what we do with those pains. If you or your friend needs to work through past pains, do it now before moving forward in your relationship. Needs that either of you have now may look very different after you've addressed those emotional wounds.
Singles can certainly experience great contentment in their lives, especially if they are seeking God's heart. (I Corinthians 7:32-35) Yet marriage can amplify the level of contentment or the lack of it. (Proverbs 12:4)
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Dad: So, what do they have to do?
Me: Lip sync for their life.
Season 5 of RuPaul's Drag Race premieres tonight at 9/8 central, and I am just in the right mood for it because I've been watching past season marathons on Logo all weekend.
One thought, though: I wish the producers didn't insist on showing the queens out of their costumes so much. I know it takes a lot to do all that make up, and it's not practical for a drag queen to always be in drag, but seeing them in street clothes is bumming me out. I don't know if it's the thin, sculpted eyebrows on a man's face, but they just do not look healthy. Between the dark circles under their eye's and adult acne, it is just too much of a reminder that they were probably disowned by their parents.
Anyway, so far I'm rooting for the narcoleptic drag queen from Seattle.


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By: Richard Gottheil
Spanish-Arabic vizier of the middle of the twelfth century mentioned in the "Diwan" (collection of poems) of Moses ibn Ezra, with the title "vezir." This is the only fact known about him, but the importance of the position assigned to him by Ibn Ezra has led to two attempts at identification. According to Steinschneider he is identical with the Abraham ibn Meir to whom Moses dedicated his "Tarshish." (See "Kerem Ḥemed," iv. 29; Grätz, "Gesch. d. Juden," 3d ed., vi. 100; Steinschneider, "Cat. Bodl." col. 1808; "Jew. Quart. Rev." ix. 619.) A poet, Joseph ben Meir ibn Muhajir, is supposed by Steinschneider to have been a brother of Abu Isḥaḳ ("Cat. Bodl." col. 1809). Luzzatto supposed that he was the son of Abu Ibrahim ibn Muhajir, to whom Judah ha-Levi dedicated a poem ("Betulat bat Yehudah," p. 20).
Abu Sulaiman (=David) ibn Muhajir, possibly a relative, is mentioned, together with Isaac Alfasi and Judah ibn Balaam, by Moses ibn Ezra in his "Kitab al-Muhadarah" (Fürst's "Literaturblatt des Orients," x. 203; Steinschneider, "Cat. Bodl." col. 1809), although Schreiner does not speak of him in his description of Ibn Ezra's work ("Rev. Ét. Juives," xxi. xxii.). Abu Sulaiman is not to be confounded with David ibn Hajar mentioned in "Sha'are Ẓedeḳ," as was done by Grätz, "Gesch. d Juden," 2d ed., vi. 112.
- Steinschneider, in Jew. Quart. Rev. x. 524.


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Ahead of a busy offseason, Crew Technical Director Brian Bliss sits down with TheCrew.com's Cody Sharrett to discuss the 2012 season and the club's focus heading into 2013:
Cody Sharrett: The team finished with 52 points in 2012, the second-highest point total in Crew history, yet it wasn't enough to make the playoffs this season. Looking back on 2012, what were some of the bright spots to you, what went poorly, and how can it be improved?
Brian Bliss: We do a thorough, top-to-bottom review of what we've got. I think the numbers that everybody has been talking about – whether it's websites or newspapers – is the ability to hold on to leads, conceding goals, and our goals-against-average. I think once [Jairo] Arrieta came and [Federico} Higuaín came, we showed we can score goals. We'll have those players back, so that shouldn't be an issue next year. So, we've got to concentrate on how to shore-up things in the backline a little bit more than we thought we would need to. We've got a little bit of resource and a little bit of wiggle room in terms of not making the playoffs and what the league will give us. We've got some ability to make a move there, but it also comes down to how many foreign spots we have available if we're looking outside the League.
CS: You talked about shoring-up the backline. It was depleted at times throughout the year due to injuries to Chad Marshall, Carlos Mendes and Julius James. How can you build depth there ahead of 2013?
BB: I think we've got the abilities with options on some guys. We've got guys that might be tradable. There are other ways to get it done. I wouldn't say the [college Super] draft is going to be a way to bring a guy in that's going to completely overhaul your backline. We've got some areas we can work on to try and change that. Some of it comes down to continuity with the injuries, but when we were springing the leaks, we had pretty much all of our bodies relatively healthy minus one guy maybe. I don't think we can really pin it on injuries.
CS: Josh Williams isn't a natural left back, but he did play pretty well there the second half of the season. Is that position the biggest hole you see in the lineup going into the offseason?
BB: Yeah, I mean I think Nemanja [Vukovic] did well when he was over there for the short amount of time he was there. Josh settled into that spot and did an adequate job. He gave us some really good performances there as well. But at the MLS level, you can do it, but it's not ideal to have a righty playing left back. I can recall just Chris Wingert, a former player here, he's about the only guy I know that's been overly successful and nailed that down playing as a righty playing on the left. I think you've got to have a natural lefty over there, and I think that's a priority.
CS: Once Federico Higuaín came in, he, Eddie Gaven and Justin Meram really worked well in the midfield attack. How do you see those three working together going forward?
BB: I think Federico is a guy who is up in the front line, but can drift back into the midfield and give us that ability to regulate the tempo of the game. Justin came on this year. I wouldn't say he had a breakout year, but I think he showed glimpses of what he can do in terms of shooting ability and getting in front of the box. I think he's starting to take care of the ball better in the midfield third. Eddie had a breakout year in terms of his goal scoring and production. Part of that lies on Eddie and I think part of that lies on the ability to link-up with Federico and Arrieta as well. Eddie's production is tied to that. That's promising coming back, and then looking at Ben Speas and what he did in that final game. I know it's only one game, but he showed it in the Reserve League and he duplicated it in the final game of the season.
CS: At the forward positions, you have one true striker in Jairo Arrieta. You're pretty deep on the wings with players like Meram, Speas, Ethan Finlay or Bernardo Añor when he returns from injury. How can you go about building depth at the forward position this offseason?
BB: It's going to have to be through the draft. Even though I said we'll have some resources given to us by the League, I think we have more of a priority in other areas of the field that are probably going to take up those resources. We're going to have to look internally within the League to make something happen there and the SuperDraft.
CS: The Crew won its second-straight Reserve League title this season. What does that say about the depth you've built with this team and how have you seen those guys improve over the course of the season?
BB: It's two straight years we've won either the League title or the divisional title in the Reserve League. You've got to be doing something right there and there's got to be some good players in the system, otherwise you wouldn't be able to win as many games as we did. I think Justin [Meram] cut his teeth there pretty well over the last two years, Ben [Speas] cut his teeth there this year, Eric Gehrig did for the most part, and Josh Williams has now really made a breakthrough and played 28 or 30 games for us. We hope to have guys like Finlay becoming the next Josh Williams or Ben Speas doing the same thing. The Reserve League has been a good feeder system to our First Team and we hope with the new structure of the Reserve League that guys are getting more games and accelerating their growth.
CS: In MLS, because of salary cap restrictions and roster spots, there is significant turnover in every team each year. Teams change about 30 percent each season. With that, the Crew has been able to remain successful. There's no Expansion Draft this year, where in the past you've lost guys like Alejandro Moreno, Brad Evans and Adam Moffat among others. What are you expecting this offseason?
BB: I think we're looking at that 25, 28, maybe 30 percent turnover as you mentioned. It's just inevitable with the cap. Some of these guys want to move on, some of it's cap related, some of it is that we have to part ways with the guy for whatever reason. I think we've got to be efficient and diligent with the resources we have. That's putting the extra work in on the scouting end with college kids. It's scouring USL for the bargain-priced guy. Also, using international resources to find that one guy that fills an international spot at a value position.
CS: You have a few weeks remaining to notify Academy players whom you would like to sign as Homegrown Players. What is going into evaluating Academy products like Wil Trapp, Chad Barson, Matt Wiet and Justin Luthy?
BB: We've been keeping track of those guys. Other than Trapp, they're all seniors. We've seen them in college for the past three or four years. We know what their capabilities are. I think we're high on most of those guys, it's just a matter of how much room we have to sign one or all of them. If we could, we would sign them all and it'd be pretty easy on us. But I think resource-wise, we're going to be able to [sign] two, and if we're lucky, a third. That's kind of where it's at. From a priority standpoint, those guys in the back are looking pretty good right now because of where we are as a statistical team looking at the past season. Those guys could benefit from that.
CS:Two Homegrown players started in games this season. How does that reflect on the Crew's youth development system and what we're seeing now on the First Team?
BB: I think we're doing the right things. We wish we had more [Homegrown signings] earlier, but we didn't. That's just the way it is. I think with Matt Lampson and Ben Speas, and now Aaron Horton who is going into his third year, I think they're poised to contribute some more minutes. You start talking about some guys you just mentioned and even going deeper than that with Ben Swanson, Carter Richardson, Parker Siegfried, and George Braima: we've got guys in the pipeline. It shows we're doing things, at least we think on the right level. It's bearing fruit, and when it will really bear fruit is if we can win a championship with some of those guys on the field.


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Augusta, Kentucky
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Augusta is the home of the actor George Clooney, television journalist Nick Clooney and family, former home of singer Rosemary Clooney, and birthplace of Miss America 2000, Heather Renee French Henry. In the last quarter century, Augusta has been best known as the site of three major films: Michner's Centennial, PBS' Huckleberry Finn, and Neil Simon's Lost in Yonkers.
42 miles southeast of Cincinnati in Bracken County, Augusta sits at the convergence of the Ohio River and Bracken Creek. The Ohio River forms the northern border of the city; the river flows in a straight westerly direction for nine miles without the obstruction of a floodwall. Riverside Drive offers an incredible long-range view of this picturesque river valley. Many people believe it is the most beautiful view of the valley in the entire state of Kentucky. Its earliest history in 1781 showed Augusta as a popular shipping port. During the mid 1800's, European immigrants helped establish a thriving wine industry in Augusta. Today, the surrounding hillsides are still terraced, much the way they are in the famous Rhine Valley in Germany. Augusta and the surrounding area played a crucial role in the Underground Railroad with many sites marked by historical markers.
The river has always played a major role in Augusta's development. A devastating flood in 1997 caused the permanent removal of some homes; it has also enabled the town to develop green spaces and parks. The construction of the O'Neill Riverwalk, along with the boat docking facility provides access for large pleasure and entertainment boats to dock in the town's center. City and County leaders expect the tourism industry to become a major contributor to the economy in the future, but agricultural remains as the primary occupation for most of the 1200 residents.
A ferry service crossing the Ohio River at Augusta has been in continuous operation since 1798. Currently the Jenny Ann remains in daily operation under the auspices of the Augusta Ferry Authority and provides a short ride to Ohio's scenic U.S. 52 along the Ohio River. Kentucky Rt. 8 and 9 (better known as the AA Highway) link Augusta with the rest of Bracken County. Greater Cincinnati International Airport is a 45-minute drive, with Brown County Airport 12 miles away. Amtrak passes through the area with a stop 18 miles away at Maysville.
Residents have their choice of crossing the Ohio River to reach Brown County Hospital 16 miles away in Georgetown, Ohio or heading 18 miles downriver to Meadowview Regional Medical Center in Maysville, Kentucky. Augusta Fire and EMS provide service to the city.
Most daily needs can be met in Augusta, but most residents shop in Maysville or drive into Cincinnati for major shopping trips. August has quite a few local boutique-style shops as well as local cafes and restaurants.
The Augusta Riverpark public boat launching facility offers easy access to the Ohio River and all of its recreational offerings. Artists and thespians will find an active art guild and theater group. The Augusta Heritage Days River Regatta is a highlight of summer and nearly monthly festivals contribute to an active yearlong entertainment calendar. Residents enjoy a White Christmas Parade, fall Ghost Tour, Fireman's Fourth of July, Turning of the Leaves festival, Swingtime on the River, Art in the Garden among other annual events.


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Air New Zealand has announced that its planned airliner biofuel test will be carried out using biodiesel made from jatropha nuts. Jatropha plants, able to survive in deserts, could offer a biofuel source which would not compete with food production or drive deforestation.
"Air New Zealand is absolutely committed to being at the forefront of testing environmentally sustainable fuels," said the airline's chief, Rob Fyfe, quoted in the Sydney Morning Herald.
The test will be carried out later this year, using a Boeing 747 with engines from Rolls Royce. Boeing has been at the forefront of an industry push toward alternative fuels since last year, following soaring rises in the price of ordinary fossil jet fuel.
Earlier tests have seen aircraft running without problems on synthetics made from natural gas and coal, and Virgin partnered with Boeing earlier this year to power a jumbo using coconut and palm oils.
All of these efforts have drawn criticism, however. Alternate fossil fuels, while they could offer some security of supply and price, have no ecological benefits - quite the reverse, actually, as a tonne of gas or coal is burned for every tonne converted into synthetic jet juice. First-generation biofuel sources like coconut and palm are usually seen as lower-carbon - though just how much is a subject of vigorous debate - but they are also implicated in rising food prices and deforestation. It has also been credibly suggested that in any case, there just isn't enough farmland to run much transport on first-gen crop biofuel.
So-called second generation biofuels like jatropha or algae which don't need good land are seen by many in the aviation industry as their best way ahead. The technical problems of alternative propulsion for planes are much more severe than in cars, meaning that options such as battery power, hydrogen and so on aren't seen as viable.
Thus the ANZ trial is sure to be watched with interest. The airline believes it would need plantations totalling 1.25 million hectares to run entirely on jatropha. In the case of first-gen biofuel, that would equate to about 85 per cent of New Zealand's arable land, but hardy jatropha might, for instance, be grown in the deserts of Australia. There are 1.4 million square kilometres of deserts in Oz, enough to fuel a hundred airlines the size of ANZ if they were all covered in jatropha plants. ®


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The Real Life Scariest Thing
As I previously explained, real life scary experiences are brushes with a death we had not hoped for ourselves at all. Like everyone else I want to just drop dead one day when I'm close to a hundred. I do not want to die in a plane crash.
I hate flying. Flying scares me consistently more than anything else and its mostly because I'm a control freak and a fidgeter and because I still, no matter how many times people explain it to me, simply can't wrap my mind around the whole concept of lift. I just can't. I'm sorry. All of these things make me a royal pain in the ass to fly with, so if you can help it, don't fly with me.
And speaking of pain in the ass, can I for once, please just enjoy a nice plane ride without having diarrhea? Just once? No? Ok. Because that would be really nice and might help me get over my fear of airplanes, which I now associate with the stale-tongue taste of chewable immodium.
For a person who hates to fly I certainly do it enough, and I used to fly even more. For three years Husband and I had a long distance relationship. I lived here and he lived in San Francisco. We met while he was on vacation and I like to joke that with all the freaks in South Florida the only way I was going to get a good man was to import one. Because we were nuts and because we were crazy stupid in love we flew back and forth across the country, racking up lots of frequent flier miles, to see one another. Normally I wouldn't recommend this type of relationship, so let me just add this disclaimer. Long Distance Relationships usually don't work. It has to be really worth it and both people have to live in cool cities to visit. I mean, I really think that if we lived in say Milton, Delaware and Reno, Nevada, that our relationship might not have been so successful.
Because I am so deathly afraid to fly and even more afraid to fly alone you can get a pretty good estimate of just how much I loved Husband if I was willing to spend almost 6 hours alone with a stomach ache, 30,000 feet above the midwest in a skinny metal tube that could potentially kill me.
One time in particular I actually thought "this is it, I'm dead and I will be all over the news and this is just fantastic because it's going to happen over the city of Atlanta, my former home."
My flight was delayed and it was one of those bad flights that you see on the news where people have to sit for fifteen hours on the runway and they're hungry and someone has a stomach virus and the toilets overflow and then someone has a pulmonary emobolism while another goes ballistic from being trapped on the plane for fifteen hours. We were delayed because there were tornadoes in Atlanta, where we had a layover. We sat on the runway for four hours during which time we ate small bags of pretzels, drank cokes and watched "Two Weeks Notice" which I actually enjoyed very much. All was well. I had a whole row to myself. At first I was sitting next to a Mormon missionary on his way home to Salt Lake City and he was trying to get all Book of Mormon on me and start busting out the cureloms, but then he got off the plane and flew standby on a direct flight to Salt Lake City and left me curelom-less with a row to myself where I sat wondering why Sandra Bullock always has to play the ugly, frumpish roles when she's really cute and how in the world people can actually believe that an angel named Moron (MORON people) visited Joseph Smith and told him all this stuff and no one even saw any proof of it. Oh I am bracing myself to get angry emails from the Mormons now, but I only have one reader from Utah anyway and I hope that maybe he or she has been excommunicated. But clearly having Mormons hating your ass isn't a huge detriment. Look at Dooce. Not only is she the skinniest woman in the world on antidepressants (how do they not make her fat like they do everyone else?), she has made a living off of being an un-Mormon in a land full of them. Before I digress and start telling you about my obsession with polygamist, fundamentalist cult Mormons with 39 inbred children, I have to get back to this plane ride.
If you hear the pilot say these words "Folks, this is probably gonna be the roughest flight most of y'all have ever been on" followed up by these words "we may ask you at some points to assume the crash position but don't worry" and ending with "it's gonna be extremely dangerous to get out of your seats at any time during this flight so please locate your air sickness bags if you think you might need them and please go to the bathroom now before we're airborne" immediately, I repeat, immediately GET OFF THE PLANE. I did not do this. I sat there and broke out into a cold sweat.
You know those commercials where people can't do all sorts of fun things on their vacations because what if their diarrhea comes back? My diarreah came back. After we were airborne.
The first twenty minutes of the flight seemed ok to me so I figured oh, they're just being alarmist and nothing's going to happen. I went to the bathroom and a strapped in flight attendant freaked out and told me I had to sit down. I explained it was an emergency.
Once in the bathroom everything was fine and then very quickly it wasn't. The flight got rough, so I finished up prematurely and stumbled out into the cabin. Suddenly the plane lurched so hard to one side that I was tossed into the back row where an ordinary, middle aged man sat alone.
"I'm scared and I'm going to sit right here with you," I told the man.
"That's fine," said the man who introduced himself as Smitty (his real name, I'm not changing it).
Smitty was a really normal kinda guy. He was friendly and told me he was a traveling salesman who sold some sort of part to something. He was the kind of guy who really likes sports and talks about the teams and criticizes the coaches as if he knows them all personally and could do a much better job. He grills bratwursts, fishes and likes Jimmy Buffet. His sons are in fraternities and his daughter is a little slutty and snakes her pony tail through the hole in her baseball cap. Smitty thinks she's a virgin. For vacation Smitty and his wife, who is active in her church although Smitty doesn't attend, go on Carribbean cruises. Smitty likes Fox News and wears Tommy Bahama shirts when he's trying to be cool. At work he pulls his slacks up too high. He also drinks beers on planes and isn't scared of things because he's a man's man who cuts his grass with a push mower, fixes his boat engine and shoots possums in the backyard. Smitty is pretty much everyone's idea of a Dad.
I buckled myself in and things went from bad to worse. The pilot was right - this was the roughest flight I had ever been on and I knew I was going to die. The plane turned completely on its side and I swore that if it rolled that was it, my heart was going to stop. All the stuff fell out of the overhead bins, which I thought were supposed to lock. People were screaming, praying and puking. Outside there was lightning and it just seemed like the pilot couldn't control the plane, which had started to make sounds I certainly never heard before. Then the plane was struck by lightning and the flight turned into a 45 minute long ride on Space Mountain, a ride I don't even like, because we were pitching and rolling, diving and then trying to climb back up with straining engines, something smelled like fuel (probably fuel I'd guess) and all the lights went out.
"We're trying to find somewhere to land," the pilot announced and I took this to me that he was looking for a field or a long stretch of highway, so I knew I was dead. Plus I had diarrhea, because in my life a scary as hell flight is simply not enough. We must add in the possibility of crapping my pants as well, meaning that when they recovered my body from the wreckage, well, I wouldn't be a very dignified corpse. And believe me the irony and parallels to the free movie we had watched two hours prior was not lost on me. There is a really funny diarrhea scene in "Two Weeks Notice." I didn't think my experience was one bit amusing.
I had begun to cry. Normally I rarely cry. I can definitely hold myself together pretty well, but when it comes to a plane ride where the pilot is looking for somewhere to land whatever that means, the plane has been hit by lightning, and people are throwing up anywhere in my vicinity, all bets are off and I'm going to completely lose my shit and have hysterics. I grabbed onto Smitty's arm and bawled something about if he survives to tell my family I loved them very much and if we all die that it was nice knowing him for the past 45 minutes.
"Oh this ain't nothin'" Smitty said, "I been on way worse than this."
Then Smitty began to talk and tell me about his sons in the fraternities and about the part to something that he sold. I think he went through his whole sales pitch. I was concentrating on staying alive and not crapping my pants.
"This is going to be a very rough landing. Please assume the crash position."
May I never hear those words again.
I can't even explain what this landing was like. It was kind of sideways. It was violent. When the plane tossed and jolted it felt like it was slamming onto something solid, so with each lurching lunging plummet I was sure this was it, the plane was breaking apart and was going to explode.
While in the crash position, Smitty hugged me, protecting me with his body and the whole time I was shaking and sobbing he kept saying: "Oh, it ain't so bad. This is nothin'."
And finally we landed. When the plane finally stopped there was total silence. I think none of us knew if we were still alive. A minute later the entire plane collectively burst into tears.
After we disembarked and were informed that we had to spend the night in Atlanta because no planes were allowed to fly in such bad weather. Normally we wouldn't have been allowed to land, but since we had been hit by lightning (with no damage although you could have fooled me) and no other area airports could accomodate our plane, Atlanta let us land there as planned. I suppose that the whole looking for other places to land thing meant that they were trying to divert us to another city, rather than an open field as I had imagined, and that for some reason that didn't work out. I'm not exactly sure what happened. I was just glad I had a friend in Atlanta to come pick me up, take me for pizza and provide me with a clawfoot tub full of lavender bath salts.
On the way out I thanked Smitty.
"You really weren't scared at all?" I asked him.
Smitty chuckled, because he was the kind of man who chuckles.
"I was scared fucking shitless," he said, "but I didn't want to make it worse on you."
Now that, Dear Readers, is a good man, so in the middle of the scariest real life thing that has ever happened to me I still managed to fall into the row of what has to be one of the best people in existence and wherever Smitty is, I thank him still. That is why I didn't change his name.
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You really know how to pull a person in,,, that was awful (I mean the flight experience). Geez... good lord girl, I might as well have been sitting in the front row of the theater with surround sound and 3-D glasses!
That was an in-your-face Scary Thing. Your shark experience would be more like an after shock kind a scary.
- jennifer said...
wow. that was quite intense. I just have no idea what to say, but i guess smitty rocks!
- ~*~Esmerelda~*~ said...
I started to cry when you said he hugged you and protected you with his body.
I bet he remembers you too, and is grateful he had you to take care of to distract himself from his fear.
- Sauntering Soul said...
Holy cow. I would never step foot on a plane again.
I had an eerie flight from Ohio back here to Atlanta once. There were only 3 of us on the whole plane (full size - not one of those puddle jumpers) and the flight attendant gave me my own trash bag and said he would be unable to leave his seat because we were going to have a very rough flight. It was a very rough flight but nothing compared to yours. Yikes.
- Hilary said...
Wow.. great story. I may never fly again now, but really amazing tale. Here's to the Smittys in the world.
- just kristen said...
You are completely right about the long distance relationship thing. My last boyfriend was long distance and it didn't work out. Coincidentally he actually lived in Milton, DE...
I once flew through a snowstorm and all i remember was that when i looked out the window it looked like tv fuzz. I'm glad it was not accompanied by a tornado though and I'm glad you survived! I wish there were more Smittys in the world.
"... but I only have one reader from Utah anyway and I hope that maybe he or she has been excommunicated."
I guess I must be your one reader from Utah. Sorry, I'm not Mormon and thus can't be excommunicated.
Here in Salt Lake we're actually (just slightly) majority non-Mormon. It's certainly an interesting and different environment, though. Outside Salt Lake, yes, it's majority Mormon, reaching extremely high levels as you get more rural.
- Wide Lawns said...
Mark!! How nice to meet you, my one reader from Utah! Welcome. I always kinda did want to know you you were.
- Whiskeymarie said...
I hear stories like this and am eternally grateful that I am not the one telling the story, because that would mean I could never fly anywhere again.
I have trouble on a "normal" flight with "normal" conditions. My head would have exploded on this one.
let me know if you want lift explained using small words
which may take a while, as I'm not sure I understand it
but what good is a physics degree if I can't act all smart with it?
that beats my worst flight, BTW, and I used to fly A LOT
- Unknown said...
Holy frijoles! That is the scariest plane ride story I've ever heard of. I don't think anything can top that. Dang, how traumatic that would be! I'd never want to fly again, either. About the diahrrea: my sister has Crohn's disease, and when it hits, it hits. One time she was getting onto a plane and it hit right when they were taking off. The stewardess was being mean to her and not letting her get up to use the bathroom, and when she finally did, they announced over the P.A. that they were waiting to take off for the woman in the bathroom. How completely rude is that?! Anyways, I'm glad you survived and didn't land in a field. And, of course, you had to throw in Jimmy Buffet and Tommy Bahama shirts. I'll have you know that we don't own any Tommy Bahama shirts, nor do we wear our trousers pulled up too high. But we do love us some Jimmy Buffet. :)
- Miriam said...
Yay Smitty! I cannot imagine going through that. Oh my goodness. I'm glad you had someone like that to take care of you!
- Unknown said...
I'm an ex-Utahn, and am actually a Mormon, you do get 'em outside the state! I'm pretty laid back about it though. I got the missionary zeal out of my system some time ago. But I do recall bothering somebody on my flight home... Hopefully they didn't mind too much.
P.S. It's Moroni, not Moron. I always rather thought if the whole thing was just made up, Joseph would have made up a more dignified name, anyhow.
- Wide Lawns said...
Something exploded, Whiskey Marie, but it wasn't my head.
- MP said...
that is a GREAT story..although not so great for you at the time..God LOVE Smitty..I hope his family knows how kick ass he is. I hope that if I'm ever in a similar situation I have someone like him by my side.
Gak. I'm a former flight attendant and not fussed by flying at all. Still, I would have walked off that plane if we knew in advance it was going to be so rough.
A plane getting struck by lightning isn't such a big deal, though. It happens frequently enough.
- Leonesse said...
You gave Smitty something to be brave about and focus on. Go YOU!
I too, started crying when he hugged you. I'm still crying, because that is just so great what he did.
My husband and I also had a long distance relationship, by only 3 hours though. We broke up while I was still away (1 week from graduating college and coming home!), and got back together 11 months later. So glad that's over!
Wow! I really enjoy reading you. I flew unbuckled once because I got on toward the end and the buckle wouldn't fit me by several inches. I knew I was fat, but never experienced that before. I was so mortified that I struggled to ask the attendant for an extension and she told me after we do our demo. Well she was flying with friends and I tried to wave to her and she ignored me, so I gave up. I was depressed as hell and thought "if I die, I die and no one will care anyway." The skinny guy next to me knew and I braced myself a lot and the bravest thing I did was not break down and cry. Later someone told me that the guy next to me had my hook up and that's why mine wouldn't stretch. They say you can't fly and not be belted in, and I'm living proof that they don't really care and that you can. It was less than 2 years ago for the record.
I used to fly A LOT by myself since I was 7 to visit my father. Recently some friends and I were on a flight back from Vegas and the plane was jolting around a bit and my friend just leaned in and had this sheer look of terror on her face. I told her it was no big deal, just going through some clouds. It really wasn't a big deal but just seeing someone freaking out made my mind go to the worst possible scenario. Anyway, some guy in the row in front of us kept saying it was nothing, he'd been on a flight that all the lights in the cabin went out and the plane was rolling all around. NOT something I want to hear while experiencing some turbulence mid-flight.
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