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Books, Blogging and Over Exposure
When SassyMonkey(Karen) lamented that she was "tired of seeing the same books over and over again on blogs", I thought of Miley. Karen went on to post on her blog a clarification of what she meant. It's not the latest best sellers or the ones we all recommend to each other but the ones being hyped (or over hyped). I admit I'll read a couple of reviews of the same book but then skip them after that. No matter how brilliant the blogger you can only say so much about a book that hasn't already been said. Sometimes the same author post will show up on a number of blogs- not that you can blame them. How can anyone write 20-30 unique posts on the same topic? It would be exhausting.
Book blogging is new. Book blogging tours are very new. Publishers have discovered a great promotional resource. We're more than happy to get free books and they don't have to buy us lunch. We love talking to authors. I fully disclose that I have and will review books from publishers and blog tours.
Since like all new inventions, we should try them out for awhile then take them back into the workshop and tinkler with them a bit more, let's do the same here.
For bloggers who review ARCs and participate in book tours: What are the postives? What are the negatives? How do you feel when you see several bloggers reviewing the same book you have at the same time? Excited? Or frustrated?
Authors: Can a book be overexposed? Or is it all good?
Readers: How do you feel about all the multiple posts for one book? Do you read them all? Are you skeptical? Has it made you buy the book? Does it feel like an ad?
Publishers/book blog tour organizers: What are your thoughts?
43 comments:
- AnonymousFebruary 10, 2009 at 12:38 PM
It can be frustrating when you're the last person to read the book. It can also be good, because not everyone is going to like the book and you can read different opinions.ReplyDelete
What a great subject! I've started feeling the same way a couple of days ago. To me it's been starting to feel that we're all reading the same books. I keep finding reviews for the same books and I'm starting to wonder, what are the great books out that we are missing?ReplyDelete
I've received ARCs. Usually I don't read them until months later. But I did receive Gods Behaving Badly as an ARC from a fellow blogger and I'm finding so many reviews about it, good and bad.
I think a book can be overexposed to the point that people don't want to read it or see or hear about it.
- AnonymousFebruary 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Well, I blathered on a good deal in my post (that you kindly linked to) but I have to say again that I love it when we're all reading the same book(s) because we're excited about it(them). Like how I'm sure there will be a bunch of us reading Pride and Prejudice and Zombies come April. Or how everyone was reading HP when it came out. Or Twilight. Or a John Green book. You get the picture. I love great books.ReplyDelete
I do not love hype. Hype makes me skeptical. And sometimes cranky. ;-)
- AnonymousFebruary 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM
I am reviewing Matrimony next week with an author interview. I suppose I'm contributing to the hype on that one. Like I mentioned over at Sassymonkey's blog, I try to have review books on my blog that you won't find anywhere else. An extension of my unique reading style. I think I accomplish that. I hope I do. I do love to read the books that everybody is talking about too. Otherwise, I feel very left out.ReplyDelete
I do participate in a lot of blog tours, author interviews and ARC's. I think they're fun because I feel like I'm getting to know the author or the book better. If I'm the only one who's benefiting then that's okay. Everybody else can listen in. I like to rub shoulders with authors and publishers.
Onion- I still haven't read The Book Thief. I might be the last.ReplyDelete
Vasillis- That's true. The ones that are being heavily marketed will have their moment but the others released at the same time might be hidden gems.
Karen- There are ones that really deserve the hype for sure, but I know some readers have said they won't read books that everybody else is.
Natasha- In my opinion, a blogger has to have the right mix for them. I love reading about a book I've never heard of and then want to find it. I hope more people go digging in those obscure stacks for something juicy!
- AnonymousFebruary 10, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Without book bloggers there are a lot of books I wouldn't have picked up in the first place. But I understand what you mean. I always get excited when I see that I'm either the only one or one of two who have read and reviewed a book. Any more than four and I start thinking I'm not unique.ReplyDelete
I don't accept ARCs anymore. I used to but after getting a scathing email from the publisher on one and two very rude comments on the other two, I just stopped. Plus, I don't like how a lot of publishers want to you read the book by a certain day and pester you until you do. It's like asking for a bad review.
I agree with Vasilly. I think over-exposure can be a bit off-putting. Part of the problem here is that we're all one another's readers. That's not a problem in itself, of course, but I wonder if authors doing extensive tours realize that mostly the same core group of people will be reading 10+ reviews/interviews, etc. I admit that after the first 2-3 I skip too, unless the book really interests me. I don't think there's anything wrong with book tours, author interviews and all that. And I understand why authors would want to maximize exposure. But if I start reading about a book everywhere, I can get tired of it before I even read it.ReplyDelete
Like everything there are positives and negatives. I like reading different opinions about books, but I think some blog tours can get overwhelming. Perhaps 5 blog stops per month...and then another five in a second month. 20 stops are too many in my mind.ReplyDelete
Then again, we as bloggers are reading all the other book blogs when some readers who do not review only read their favorites. I hope that makes sense.
Funny, I just posted about this myself the other day! The main negative for me is feeling like I'm an advertisement.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousFebruary 10, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Just back to follow up with the comments. Regarding what Nymeth mentioned about being each others readers. Yes, we are, but thank goodness we aren't each other's ONLY readers. 80% of my traffic comes from search engines. They are not bloggers, especially book bloggers. If book bloggers were our only audience, I would say yes, it can get tiresome to see the book everywhere. But those 80% haven't seen it.ReplyDelete
When I first became an early review on LibraryThing I used to get ARC's fairly regularly. Now I don't get any. Oh well. However, I found that not too many bloggers I follow had received the same book, so it worked out well.ReplyDelete
I was approached about doing a blog tour and agreed. But I was one of the last reviewers on the tour and by then I think the book was about to come out. Not sure if it was that, or the author was wiped out from doing all the other blogs, but he completely forgot about my blog and the questions I'd sent.
Of course with all the hype he got, he didn't need little ol' me anyway. Because of this experience though, I doubt I will ever agree to do another one. Not just because I was forgotten about, but because at that point, what could I say or write about that had not been said? What questions could I ask that had not been asked?
Needless to say, I doubt I will ever be a blogger that is one of many - and I kind of like it that way.
I will still try for ARC's from LT, Harper Collins, and other sources as I have come across some outstanding works (Hotel on the Corner of Bitter and Sweet for one)and am thrilled I got a sneak peek as it were.
But my main goal for my blog will remain to share my feelings and opinons on reading, issues that affect this such as banned books and literacy, and satisfying personal challenges.
But as for ARC's and Blog Tours? The former I will still work on as it has always been a good experience, but blog tours? No.
It would take a lot to convince me to try it again. I'd rather spend my time and my resources doing something that I enjoy and that gives a special feeling in return.
I got the sense from that failed tour attempt I was simply a means to an end and when it looked like I was no longer useful I was tossed aside.
Probably overly dramatic, but that is how I was left feeling.
Most of the books I review are obscure older novels. I recently reviewed Susan Glaspell's 1929 novel Fugitive's Return, and the review was noticed by a publisher who reissues out-of-print women's fiction. I'm hoping my blog was a little nudge toward getting Glaspell's novel reissued.ReplyDelete
I also recently received from the publisher a copy of Canadian novelist Helen Humphrey's new novel Coventry, which I dutifully reviewed. I was happy to review a book that might not be a mega-hit, but which is quietly lovely and worth reading. Maybe the blog will bring it to the attention of someone who might not otherwise have noticed.
But in the end, the reviews on my blog are mainly for me, to help me keep track of and remember what I've read, and to help get my own thoughts in order.
Natasha, you make a good point. I confess I tend to forget about everyone else who is out there reading. It makes sense that what's tiresome for us book bloggers who keep up with a lot of other blogs won't be tiresome for those who come from google or only read a book blog or two.ReplyDelete
As a reader, I say YES, the ARCs and free copies start to feel like an add. I really personally dislike the "Book blog tours." I get sick of seeing the same book in Google Reader and I usually skip the posts.ReplyDelete
I read books that have been around a while. I never buy a newly published book (although I may make an exception for Toni Morrison, for example).
If its a new release and it keeps coming up in my google reader a lot, I may finally read a plot summary after about 6 impressions, but it takes a rare new release for me to actually want to read it. I just usually don't like them, so I steer clear of reviews. If I liked new releases, I may like the ARC reviews a lot more.
- AnonymousFebruary 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM
I've contributed to some of the hype, too...although I gave that up this year. I think I got to the point where I'd rather have the free lunch than the free book. ;-)ReplyDelete
There have been some books lately where I've been skimming the reviews... The Giant of Aberdeen County comes to mind. But I also have plenty of books I want to read (The Book Thief included) that I'm sure others are sick of seeing.
I think I have a hard time saying no to the plethora of good books offered to me, and what happens is that I miss savoring a book.ReplyDelete
I like to read reviews of books I've read, but if I plan to read a book and see a lot of reviews I usually skip the reviews.
I'm finding that with Andrew Davidson's The Gargoyle. I have mixed feelings. When I review more obscure and not-so-recent books, it's nice to know I'm one of the few people offering something to say on the net. I often notice those are the ones that Google picks up on and I get a lot of hits that way. However, I don't get as much conversation, since fewer people have read it and there's only so many times someone can say, "That sounds good. I'll add it to my tbr pile." When I review a book a lot of people have read, I get more comments because people have more to agree/disagree on. Having said all that, I try to strike a balance.ReplyDelete
Jackets- Ew, that's not good. That's a good way of turning off a book blogger from reviewing. Sorry that happened.ReplyDelete
Serena- Yes, I think that's a good way to do a tour. Hopefully, a few people will buy it and blog about it many months later.
Natasha & Nymeth- Yes, that's true. Funnily enough though, those visitors to my blog are often people looking at reviews I read months if not years ago.
JC- How disappointing! I hope authors/publishers realize that we carve out time for those posts.
Rob- You must have been flattered. I'll have to check out those books. I agree that this blog is mainly for myself and the books I like. If it helps someone, then that's gravy!
Rebecca- What is it about the new releases for you? Is it that they are just the flavour of the month?ReplyDelete
softdrink- I am guilty of it as well.
Amy- I also will check out reviews of books I read more than reading reviews I haven't. I like the conversation.
John- I did read and like The Gargoyle but yes, it's everywhere. There is something thrilling about a post of mine turning up on the first page of a Google search. That usually only happens with a book few people have reviewed. Balance is key.
Chris! Ha! That is a great way of putting it!ReplyDelete
Yes, new releases are like a "flavor of the month." I like to read books that stand the test of time. Once the rage is down (maybe even a year or two down the line *gasp*), if people are still reading it and liking it, I may consider looking it up.
Great topic. Sometimes it does seem that everyone is reading the same books (and The Gargoyle and Gods Behaving Badly are GREAT examples of it). I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing though. I just want to read GOOD books. If a book is all over the place, it has to have some merit! At least in my opinion!ReplyDelete
Tara- I see that you feel that way at times. (Great post).ReplyDelete
Stephanie- That's the issue. Is it GOOD or is it hype?
- AnonymousFebruary 11, 2009 at 10:15 AM
This is such a great conversation to have, and I wish I'd commented yesterday when the discussion was going on.ReplyDelete
I have mixed feelings about it. When a book is really great, and we're all reading it at the same time and sharing our excitement about it (like what happened with The Gargoyle and Guernsey last summer), I think it's great. I love reading the different reviews and seeing what other bloggers got out of a book and focused on in their reviews.
On the other hand, if a good that doesn't actually seem that great suddenly pops up everywhere, it feels more like advertising and overexposure to me, and I wonder if the bloggers would ever have considered reading the book if it had not been offered for free.
And blog tours where all of the participants post on the same day drive me nuts. I skip those in the Reader.
- AnonymousFebruary 11, 2009 at 10:16 AM
P.S. I also haven't read The Book Thief.ReplyDelete
Great post!ReplyDelete
Sassymonkey specifically referred to Matrimony, which I completely agree has oversaturated our community. But that's the author's fault, and while I like his enthusiasm, there's something to be said for not revealing everything...you want to leave readers wanting more, and after 10 reviews, I'm not that interested.
As a blog tour organizer, I don't think it benefits the author or our community to use all book blogs on a tour. There are SO MANY blogs out there, and plenty of bloggers love to read books but don't necessarily blog mostly about books. I think those tours are the best, because book bloggers tend to be rather incestuous (forgive the term). What I mean is that we read each others reviews! So do I need to see a book at 10 or 20 blogs to get my curiousity piqued? No, just one. :-)
I'm late to the party on this (working on a book deadline), so I'm reading everyone's comments here.ReplyDelete
As one of those authors who's done blog tours, here's my take:
No exposure can be too much for a book as far as the author's concerned.
That said, I understand why everyone who frequents the same blogs might get tired of hearing about the same book.
When I do my blog tours, I try to mix up the blogs, do some book blogs, some crime fiction blogs, so I'm not too exposed to both worlds. I also write different posts for each blog. I do make an attempt to craft the blog post toward the particular blog, ie, I wrote about book covers for Iliana at bookgirl's nightstand because she makes those beautiful books.
And yes, it is advertising for the book. We can't get away from that. Anytime you post about a book on a blog, it's advertising for that book. But that's not a bad thing. Especially if you've found a good book you want to share.
Honestly? My publisher has told me that I sold 3,000 more copies of Shot Girl when it first came out as compared to my book the year before. I do credit the book blogs for helping me reach more readers.
You guys are great. And don't think that we authors don't appreciate you! Especially since print review space is next to nothing now. You are picking up slack, letting people know about books, giving authors a way to get the word out about their books.
It's all good.
Rebecca- All on the same day? I don't think I've seen that or I didn't pay attention.ReplyDelete
Trish & Karen- Incestuous! That's a good way to put it. I think it's a benefit to everyone if it's not all book blogs. And Karen, I'm not just kissing up, I do like how you do the book tours. You make the blogger feel like you are taking an interest in them as opposed to the same posts that get handed out to everybody and their dog. Not that everyone can do that if they have tours that involve 100s of blogs.
It's great to hear that the tour helped sell Shot Girl. When it's a book that people love, then that's the kind of buzz people are happy about.
- AnonymousFebruary 11, 2009 at 8:04 PM
I go back and forth on this. On the one hand, when I see a ton of book bloggers raving about a book - I have an immediate and intense need to have that book and read it. That's good for the author and publisher, I would assume.ReplyDelete
However, I have read rave reviews of books that I found only mediocre, and then I wonder if the free book has clouded the blogger's judgment. I have posted negative reviews of books I was given free and it's always uncomfortable. In fact, I have a book tour coming up for a book that I'm having trouble reading, - though I've been told it picks up, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. How uncomfortable will that author interview be if I've posted a negative review?
For that reason, I've decided to skip author interviews anymore unless it's an author whose previous work I have enjoyed. That way if I dislike the current book, I still have nice things to say.
The book blogs I enjoy the most are the ones that have a good mix of reviews of new books and older fiction. I love to read reviews of classics I haven't found time for yet.
I don't read the author interviews very often, and I admit that I have no desire to read most of the blog tour books. I see them over and over and they are all glowing reviews and I just don't want to read them. I don't even care what they are about any more.ReplyDelete
That said, I did sign up for a Hachette book giveaway (my first), so it might feel different from the other side.
Great question! I have been thinking about that, with seeing how some savvy marketers saturate the book blogging world with review copies of a particular book. I wonder, though, how many people actually do go out and buy the book. I mean, if all of us bloggers can get the book as a review copy and most of our readers are other book bloggers, are we really helping?ReplyDelete
There have been a few books (I don't want to name names) that I got really sick of hearing about because every. single. blogger. had received a review copy. I actually am not taking any more review copies because I'm tired of feeling obligated to read a book I don't like. Yes, I do sometimes like them, but sometimes I don't! I don't like feeling like I have homework.
Late to the discussion, as usual!ReplyDelete
I tend to think it's great marketing! When I see a book over and over again in my reader, I am going to click through at some point. And Natasha makes a great point - probably 80% of my readers are not book bloggers so even though the it's the same people commenting over and over, you just never know who you are reaching.
I get e-mails sometimes - from librarians, or old classmates, or random people I had no idea read my blog because they are lurkers who don't comment, they'll say - oh yeah - and I bought 5 books last year that I saw on your blog.
And I'm not afraid to say I didn't like a book on a book tour. I've done it more often than not actually. Which is also why I'm now very careful about signing up for them!
Sorry to be late to the discussion - I have enjoyed reading everyone's comments...and I love to see those actual numbers of sales and comments from an author.ReplyDelete
I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, I love getting ARCs (although I am having a hard time keeping up with them) and I like seeing other reviews of the book I am reading. BUT, I *do* think it can be overdone. I must admit, when I feel I am one of dozens of bloggers getting the same book, doing the same giveaway, etc...it annoys me a bit. For that reason, I have sometimes not requested a book, or turned down a book that has already been hyped (exception: I won Matrimony in a giveaway and will be doing a giveaway today of that book).
I can understand from a publisher/author's POV how there can never be enough marketing...but for the average, everyday person, we can feel saturated after a while!
- AnonymousFebruary 14, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Coming back to read the rest of the comments. LOL. My third comment. So I went to my stats and did some number crunching for the entire last year. Those people who are coming over to my blog from Google Reader, Bloglines or directly represent only 7% of my total blog traffic. If I were to only write blog posts and book reviews for other book bloggers then I am ignoring 93% of my blog's traffic/readership, who I assume are not book bloggers. I doubt those other 93% read a lot of book blogs. So in the grand scheme of things, book bloggers may feel over-saturated with a particular book but our audiences are all different. Reading something on a particular blog may be the only time they see it. I'd like to think that we are raising literacy and sharing our love of books among the greater whole not just amongst ourselves.ReplyDelete
I saw a comment earlier about posting reviews on the same day for a blog tour. I participate in a blog tour that does this and its purpose is to raise the rank of the book on several different websites making it hit the front page. Again, non-book bloggers would be the target for this practice. There's a reason behind its madness. :)
Carrie- I also like a little variety in a book blog. What you say about mediocre books is interesting, but sometimes a book everyone seems to love just doesn't speak to me. Is it me?ReplyDelete
Lisa- If the author has something interesting to say, I will read it but sometimes I just skim.
Kim- Hmm. Yeah, that's hard. Sometimes you just have to say, I didn't read all of it because of blah, blah. At least that's honest.
Lenore- Better late than never! Book blogs are a tight group and I think we do tend to think we've seen it all on everyone else's blog. I do get a lot of visits from non-book bloggers so I'll try to keep that in mind.
Wendy- I guess we would rather feel like we are helping authors and readers find each other and not feel like virtual billboards.
Natasha- Ah! I see. I didn't see the point of a one day book tour but now I see what you mean.
I couldn't agree with you more about "over exposure". There are sooo many books "hidden" on the shelves of book stores.ReplyDelete
Finding the same review subjects over and over was part of the reason I started my review blog. To see wonderful books being passed by un-seen...people need to know what they're missing!
Look on the shelves not just the displays! Don't let publishers and bookstores make your decision for you. Talk to store employees, other customers!
I do review ARC's from time to time, but never from best-selling authors and I never solicit or accept them from authors or publishers.
OK...all better now...I'm late to this discussion, but thanks for letting me vent!
I'm late to the discussion as well. I just read about the discussion at Bermudaonion's Weekly Link Round up. Great post!ReplyDelete
I have to admit that I have had similar feelings about overexposure of certain books on the book blogs. I don't care for it when there is an influx of reviews/giveaways on one day and I tend to ignore them as there are just too many. I've only done one blog tour and I doubt that I will do another. For me, it was just too much work and I would rather focus on reading the books that truly interest me. It's finding that balance that works so that I don't feel like my blog is a chore.
I am finding that there are definitely more "popular" blogs that people tend to gravitate towards and then they are missing out on the smaller or less visited blogs. I think that we have to be careful of being too isolated of a community as book bloggers. I think that we need to stretch our wings and visit other bloggers who may not focus on the same books and interviews.
- AnonymousFebruary 16, 2009 at 1:54 PM
This is a great discussion (my thanks too, to Bermudaonion for pointing me to it). Interesting that several folks say Josh Henkin is an author who overdoes the blog tours. Last year, I was on a Baltimore Book Festival panel about reviewing in print and in blogs; to prepare I asked him about the decline in newspaper book review sections. He said he missed the serendipity of newspaper reviews, which often highlight obscure books. Bloggers, he said, often seem to be reviewing the same dozen books.ReplyDelete
Still, I feel for him and other authors, who are trying to figure out how to market books in an era when reviewing has fractured into thousands of pieces.
Man--why am I always the last one to comment on such hot topics? Anyway, I've more or less stopped requesting books, reading reviews for ARCs, reading author interviews, on and on. I think that some of these books ARE overexposed, but when I talked about it with my husband, he assured me that these authors/publishers don't necessarily push out these books for US (US=book bloggers), but rather it makes them more searchable on the Internet. I'm guessing if someone googled Matrimony, a ton of hits would come up--but at this point are any of US still reading the reviews for it? Probably not. Sure we live in a little book blogging bubble, but if you look at your search parameters for your blog, you'll realize that it goes WAY beyond us.ReplyDelete
Rambling. So, long answer, short: I'm definitely burned out on ARCs and reading what others think of ARCs. I'd rather hear about the books I already have on my shelf--The Age of Innocence, 1984, The Handmaid's Tale. That's what I blog for...
This is something I was thinking about this week as I discovered so many other bloggers receiving the exact 3 nonfiction books in the mail from a publisher that I did. While I enjoy reading the varied takes on the same book, it also can get tiresome to see the same book being reviewed on the same week or even the same day on multiple blogs. Even as a newcomer to the book blogosphere, I can see the positives and negatives to it.ReplyDelete
I think that it is important to try to space out our ARCs and books we find we want to read from our friends' blogs with picks no one else is reviewing. For example, I am reading Stuffed by Hank Cardello, which is one of the books I saw others had received. But I am also reading The Woman in White by Wilkie Collins and Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche, not only because they interest me, but also so that a reader can tell the difference between my blog and the blog next door.
- AnonymousFebruary 16, 2009 at 5:06 PM
I'm late to this too although I commented on the subject on Tara's blog. While I appreciate an author and a publisher wanting to get the word out and as widely as possible, I was a little horrified to discover how many books being reviewed on blogs were ARC's. Like I said to Tara, it felt a bit like an old boyfriend showing up at my door and trying to sell me Amway products.ReplyDelete
OTOH, I have picked up some good books that I otherwise might not have noticed, as it's not as if reading is a chore for me.
- AnonymousFebruary 16, 2009 at 5:06 PM
I'm late to this too although I commented on the subject on Tara's blog. While I appreciate an author and a publisher wanting to get the word out and as widely as possible, I was a little horrified to discover how many books being reviewed on blogs were ARC's. Like I said to Tara, it felt a bit like an old boyfriend showing up at my door and trying to sell me Amway products.ReplyDelete
OTOH, I have picked up some good books that I otherwise might not have noticed, as it's not as if reading is a chore for me.
Good questions, Chris. Sure drew a lot of great conversation. I've enjoyed reading everybody's comments.ReplyDelete
Receiving and reviewing ARCs is definitely a mixed bag. I don't have anything new to add.
Wow a lot of good thoughts.ReplyDelete
My first thoughts (before reading comments) were that book tour are okay as long as they don't have too many participants. I don't want to mention publishers but I think we know the ones that allow anyone to participate. As much as I would hate to be turned down for a book I want to read, I think over 20 is way too many for one book.
However Maw made a great remark, that although we all read each other's blogs, we also each have unique visitors that only read our blog or only a few other blogs or only come once and so many not be seeing the same thing on a bunch of blogs.
Like I said, I think moderation is the key. Also if a blog ONLY posts about the books everyone else is posting about, I'm not going to read that blog. I try hard to read books and even find review books that others are reviewing on their sites so try to get people to come back to my blog again and again.
PS. I haven't read The Book Thief either.
PPS. I read Matrimony in 2007 as part of a blog tour and so was surprised to see him doing tours again. I mean I understand you constantly need to drum up sales for your book but I felt it basically erased the first tour.
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Got all that? Good. Yes I know it sound like a lot but anything worthwhile is worth a little effort. And I can tell you it is indeed worthwhile. Where else can you ride with the Swan Knights and chase down giant spiders. Where else ya gonna go to get your heart pumping and the blood boiling in a good old fashioned skirmish against the Hordes of Darkness or do battle with a dragon? Where else can you get the chance to explore Middle Earth and if the story really gets going to actually feel like you are actually there even if it is for only as long as you keep writing. Yep I'd say that was worth the trouble and then some.
So how's that sound? If it sounds good to you stop in and chat us up down in The Prancing Pony forum, in the Wanna be a Mithril Knight- Initiation thread OOC. The party does not start for three days, story time so we really are at the beginning…..and that is an excellent place to start.

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Australian professor, researcher and industrial designer Gianni Renda tapped into this good idea when he entered the Heineken Brewery 60+ Design Challenge that asked participants to design something for the over-60 beer market.
The age-friendly glass is curved on top with grooves and channels along the body to help promote a firm grip and capture condensation so the glass is less slippery. The star-shaped, silicon base steadies the glass to prevent tips and spills.
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Howard Terpning, Movie Poster Illustrator
Even when the film is perhaps somewhat less well know, Terpning's magnificent, dramatic posters inspire excitement and awe.
Despite being so prolific in this illustration niche, Terpning never received any of the original art back. The originals were owned by the studios that commissioned them and according to a recent article on Terpning in the L.A. Times, "he says most of the originals have been destroyed."
Over the years he has been able to reacquire only one of his movie poster originals; the art he created for yet another classic film, "The Taming of the Shrew."
Last year another Terpning movie poster original that escaped being destroyed sold at auction for nearly $14,000. Below, the original art for the 1961 film, "55 Days at Peking."
What an amazing opportunity to inspect Terpning's every brush stroke in such clear detail!
* Many thanks to Heritage Auctions, where I located nearly all of today's scans, for allowing me to make use of them in this post.
* If you're interested in perusing many more of Howard Terpning's movie posters, drop by The Sand Pebbles website.
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We were lucky enough in LA to have recently had a major show of Howard Terpning's western paintings at the Autry Museum. I found I couldn't absorb it all in one visit...wound up going twice. Amazing work. And I wasn't familiar with all his movie poster work.ReplyDelete
Thanks for the treat, Leif!
s much as I admired the quality of the work from that show at the Autry-- I longed to see more tension in the work. 98% were the noble savage listening to the wind or hanging out-- only a few and a lot of emotion. I'd also love to see him do today's Indian. Something besides the same old catering to the collector.ReplyDelete
Knew about most of these but I had no idea Terpning did "The Sound of Music."ReplyDelete
I heard he did Julie Andrews.ReplyDelete
The movie poster art for "Cleopatra" sold last year in a Profiles in History auction for over $100,000ReplyDelete
Taylor had passed away a short time before the auction, so maybe that fueled the interest.
First of all, let me just say that this post is a revelation for me, Leif, as I'm almost ashamed to admit that I'd never heard of Howard Terpning before now. Yet I see that Mr. Terpning has been responsible for creating several of my favourite illustrated movie posters! I've always felt that particular painting created for "Gone With The Wind" is one of the most iconic movie poster images of all-time, although I gather now that it was done for a re-release of the film. I checked out the link to his film work and found that he was also the artist behind the poster art for "Oliver!" and "Grand Prix", two film posters that I've long admired.ReplyDelete
Though it's great to see that original art for "55 Days At Peking", it is quite upsetting to see the water damage that it has suffered. I was curious as to whether he had painted it in acrylic or gouache, but I'm guessing it was likely gouache based on how the paint has run and blurred in those areas of water damage. Poor Ava Gardner's face has certainly been affected a lot! Here is a good image of the printed poster where you can compare how it looked in pristine condition.
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It is time for the second round of the Secret Recipe Club. Already one month has passed since we opened the doors of this respectable and young establishment to all of you.
What is it about? Shall I repeat it? Yeah let's do it.
Amanda (LINK) during one of her many creative surges came up with the idea of opening a Club of bloggers that would love to do recipe hopping. This gives us the chance to try one of the recipes posted by another member of the group.
Last month I had the opportunity of browsing through Avanika's recipes and picked up this fabulously soft and airy cake. Naturally we are granted creative rights on the original recipe so I came up with my own version that I also served for my birthday party; worthless to say that I had a real hard time keeping the sticky fingers of my friends from snatching a whole quart of the cake for themselves.
This month I got assigned Jane's blog The Heritage Cook and also this time I picked up a sweet item to prepare.
I have been meaning to try and making them for a long time, since I first discovered them during one of my visits to London. These flaky and delicate pastries are actually pretty versatile and when served as sweet they are to die for with clotted cream and jam. Yes, I am talking about British scones; isn't your mouth already watering?
Scones are actually a very straightforward product belonging to the quick-bread category. They are made with grain flour or oats and raised thanks to baking powder. Their typical short (crumbly) texture is due to the way the fat is mixed into the flour.
The choice of the fat to use mainly distinguishes the British version from the American one. The first use butter while the second rely mostly on vegetable or animal shortening. This has naturally an influence on their texture since shortening melts at a higher temperature than butter producing a somewhat drier product.
British scones are often lightly sweetened and served either with coffee or tea. The somewhat neutral nature of scones can easily be brought into the savory realm with the addition of cheese in the dough. Dried fruits are instead a classical addition for the sweet ones.
The cooking method classically employed is baking but scones can also be cooked on a grilled (as are some of the Scottish ones) or even fried (particularly popular in New Zealand and Australia).
Given the freedom, I couldn't help myself but to try a lightly savory interpretation of cream scones.
Cream, milk, cow, right? Sure but why do we use cream and not milk or water? Cause we want a flaky product and not a door stopper. Cream has up to 30% of fat content so reducing the chances of creating gluten when mixed with the flour.
So this means that the essential ingredient we need is fat, why not use vegetable fat then? What about coconut? A flaky buttery pastry with coconut overtones, doesn't that sound good already?
And what if we acknowledge the good work of our grazing cows and add some Parmesan to them? Not much, just to give a light savoriness to the product.
So far we have dealt with somehow heavy fatty notes; we need to lift up the flavor profiles somehow. We could go citrus zests and this will produce a sweeter scone, what if we used herbs instead? Since we need something light, with the flavors already present we can choose essentially among dill, thyme, rosemary, parsley, chervil and... tarragon.
So here we go:
Coconut cream scones with Parmesan and tarragon
Ingredients (make a ca 26cm loaf):
- 260g all-purpose flour
- 2.5tbsp grated Parmesan
- 1.5tbsp sugar
- 1/2tsp black peppercorns, crushed
- 1/4tsp salt
- 2.5tsp baking powder
- 1/2tsp salt
- 1tbsp finely chopped tarragon, 4-5 sprigs
- 115g ice-cold, unsalted butter, cut into cubes
- 1 egg
- 245g coconut cream
While you prepare the dough, warm up you oven to 190C/175F.
Combine the dry ingredients in the bowl of a mixer with the steel blade in and blitz around 10 times to mix them together. Add the chopped tarragon and pulse to combine with the other dry ingredients. Add the cubed ice-cold butter to the mixer bowl and pulse it until the mixture resemble coarse cornmeal/couscous, if you still see little chunks of butter here and there that is fine.
Whisk together the coconut cream and the egg.
Transfer the buttered flour mixture into a bowl, make a hole in the middle and pour in the coconut-egg mixture. Gently mix with a work until nicely combined, drop the dough onto a cookie sheet layered with wax-paper forming a round wheel smaller than 26cm/10in in diameters. To guide your hand you can use the bottom part of a 26cm/10in springform instead of a cookie sheet.
Bake in the hot oven for 25 minutes. Place the baked scone on the counter to cool down for 10minutes before cutting it into wedges.
These cross-boundary scones are perfect as a sweet or savory item. Enjoy them lukewarm or at room temperature either with butter and jam of with cheese and ham. By themselves they will shine with their buttery notes and nutty aromas.


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Mar 6, 2006 (CIDRAP News) – As the H5N1 avian influenza virus continued to claim human victims, World Health Organization (WHO) and other experts met in Geneva today for a 3-day conference to hone the agency's pandemic response plan.
Human death toll reaches 95
The WHO has updated its avian flu case count to add the Mar 2 death in China of a 32-year-old man from Guangdong province. His case, suspected last week, was confirmed yesterday by Chinese authorities and noted today in a WHO announcement. It boosted the WHO's count of human cases to 175, with 95 deaths.
The case is the first identified from Guangdong, which is near Hong Kong, WHO said.
The news prompted Hong Kong authorities to suspend shipments of live poultry from Guangdong into Hong Kong for 3 weeks, according to Xinhua, China's government news agency. The story noted that Hong Kong usually imports 30,000 live birds a day from the neighboring province.
A senior WHO official in Beijing told a Canadian Press (CP) reporter yesterday there may be more human cases in China than the central ministry is reporting.
"It's very conceivable that there are more cases," said Dr. Henk Bekedam, the WHO representative in China. "But we do not have the impression, at least from the central ministry, that they are hiding information from the outside world."
If underreporting is occurring, it's likely due to central authorities lacking the full picture of the problem, he told CP. Bekedam added that he believes China has a capacity problem in trying to identify infected poultry and people.
"There are some big problems in a country like China," he said. "But our sense is when the central Ministry of Health knows about it and when they have done their confirmation test, that we are being informed."
In other avian flu news from China today, Health Minister Gao Qiang announced, "There is no human-to-human transmission of bird flu in China," according to the Filipino news service inq7.net.
In Indonesia, a pregnant woman who was being treated for avian flu-like symptoms died today in Jakarta, Bloomberg News reported. The story did not say when she was due to deliver but added that her child didn't survive.
In addition, a 10-year-old boy from Surakarta in Central Java, who was suspected of having avian flu, died Mar 4, the Jakarta Post noted today.
Meanwhile, Interfax news and other outlets reported yesterday that H5N1 is considered a possible culprit in the deaths of two people in Azerbaijan. Six members of the same family were being treated at a hospital there for suspected avian flu, Interfax reported. Two of them, both girls, died in the past few days, Azerbaijan's deputy health minister, Abbas Velibekov, told journalists.
"Those hospitalized have been diagnosed with acute pneumonia, but the cases arouse a great deal of suspicion," he told Interfax and other media on Sunday. The story did not cite other signs pointing to avian flu or say whether the family lived near previously noted bird outbreaks, but merely that laboratory testing was under way. Samples have also been sent to the WHO lab in England, the story noted.
In Iraq, U.S. military officials were cautioning American troops to take steps to prevent exposure to the avian flu virus, according to a Mar 3 story in the US military's Stars and Stripes Mideast edition.
Troops in Iraq—as well as military family members and civilians who work in areas known to have had avian flu—are being urged to avoid eating local poultry products and to seek medical care for suspicious signs and symptoms, the news service reported. (Two Iraqis are known to have died from H5N1.)
WHO works on rapid-response plan
Meanwhile in Geneva, a group of 30 WHO officials and other experts convened today for a 3-day technical meeting aimed at developing protocols for rapid containment and response to an emerging pandemic, according to Agence France-Presse (AFP). They'll build their efforts from a draft plan released late in January. Proceedings from the closed meeting will not be released until Mar 15, said Dick Thompson, a WHO spokesman.
The H5N1 virus is unprecedented in its spread among animals, said Dr. Margaret Chan, who is leading WHO's avian flu response.
"Concern has mounted progressively and events in recent weeks justify that concern," Chan said in an Associated Press (AP) story today. The top priority is to prevent the virus from mutating into the effective human-to-human pathogen considered the harbinger of a pandemic.
"Should this effort fail, we want to ensure that measures are in place to mitigate the high levels of morbidity, mortality, and social and economic disruption that a pandemic can bring," the AP quoted Chan as saying.
The urgency of the situation was reflected in comments from other experts. Joseph Domenech, head of the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) animal health service, told the AP that experts warned in 2004 that an international crisis was looming in Asia.
"We were asking for emergency funds and they never came," Domenech said. "We are constantly late."
Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO's director of epidemiologic and pandemic alert and response, described concerns over the global capacity to respond to the H5N1 threat.
"We truly feel that this present threat, and any other threat like it, is likely to stretch our global systems to the point of collapse," Ryan told the AP.
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LETTER- Defeat the 'Marriage Amendment'
I would like to thank Bass Mitchell for his June 16 essay, "Thanks but... Anti-gay sermon offer falls on deaf ears" As a relatively new Episcopalian and Christian, I have been very saddened to be targeted for discrimination by the Virginian government and some churches.
I've been talking to people in different churches, and I have learned that most congregations do not fully understand the Virginia Constitution "Marriage Amendment." My partner of 14 years, Chris Zitnay, and I are in medical practice together, own property
together, and have our investments together. I believe we have contributed much to the community.
Already, HB751 prohibits us from having durable medical power for one another (meaning if I were
intubated in the hospital, Chris would not legally be allowed to make decisions for me– instead, my distant blood relatives would).
If the "Marriage Amendment" passes this Fall, we will probably have to move because all our business and financial agreements together can be perceived as a contractual agreement that married people can have.
I have already seen many gay and lesbian doctors, lawyers, professors, researchers, teachers, patients and friends leave Virginia because of HB 751. I'm afraid if this "Marriage Amendment" passes, there will be a huge exodus of gays, lesbians, and transgenders– which I think Amendment supporters want to see.
I do hope these people realize that they have friends and family members, and know doctors, lawyers, and other people who are gay and will be discriminated against by their votes.
For those who consider marriage to be holy: let the church decide this, not the government. There is separation between church and state. Also, with the divorce rate up to 60 percent, people marrying each other on TV reality shows, and adultery as high as 50 percent, we should instead work on these issues to keep marriage strong and moral.
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We use cookies to remember users' settings and for authentication. Users can control the use of cookies at the individual browser level. If you reject cookies, you may still use our site, but your ability to use some features or areas of our site may be limited.
We use Local Storage Objects (LSOs) such as HTML5 to store content information and preferences. Various browsers may offer their own management tools for removing HTML5 LSOs.
We care about the safety and security of your PII. We use industry-standard technology to keep your personal information and information you have entered into our site as secure as possible. We have also put in place privacy protection control systems designed to ensure that your personal data remains safe and private. When you enter sensitive information (Personal Health Information) on our order forms, we encrypt the transmission of that information using secure socket layer technology (SSL).
Please note that dLife will never request your personal information by sending e-mails. We only collect such information on our Website. If you receive an e-mail solicitation purporting to be from us, please do not respond to it. Instead, please contact us immediately at firstname.lastname@example.com.
Data Retention
We will retain your information for as long as your account is active or as needed to provide you services. If you wish to cancel your account or request that we no longer use your information to provide you services contact us at email@example.com. We will retain and use your information as necessary to comply with our legal obligations, resolve disputes, and enforce our agreements.
dLife does not knowingly collect PII from anyone under thirteen (13) years of age.
Links to other Web Sites
dLife may provide links to other Websites or resources of possible interest to you. Because we do not control unaffiliated Websites to which we provide links, the collection and use of your PII and other information by such Websites shall be subject to the policies and procedures of such Websites and not this privacy policy.
Social Media Widgets
Our Web site includes Social Media Features, such as the Facebook and Twitter buttons and Widgets, such as the Share this button or interactive mini-programs that run on our site. These Features may collect your IP address, which page you are visiting on our site, and may set a cookie to enable the Feature to function properly. Social Media Features and Widgets are either hosted by a third party or hosted directly on our Site. Your interactions with these Features are governed by the privacy policy of the company providing it.
Contact us
If you have questions or concerns about any of our information collection or handling practices, or if you wish to change or remove any PII provided to us, please contact us by e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.com or by postal mail at dLife, a LifeMed Media, Inc., 200 Middlesex-Essex Turnpike, Suite 202, Iselin, NJ 08830 ATTN: dLife Member Services.
User Agreement
Your access to and use of the Site requires acceptance of dLife's User agreement. Read more about our User Agreement here.
Last Modified Date: August 10, 2017
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