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Thank you for taking the time to read this research request. I am a graduate student at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln and I am conducting a research study on stigma and secular individuals (atheists, agnostics, humanists) located in the Midwest for my doctoral dissertation. I invite you to contribute to this research by taking part in my web-survey. The survey should only take about 30 minutes to complete. I want to ensure you that I do not have any means to connect your personal information or IP address to your survey so your participation will be anonymous. The data collected in this survey may be used for future research projects as well. I also ask that you forward this email to other secular (atheist/agnostic/humanist) individuals you know. This is a population that is hard to find and I need as big of a sample as I can get.
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Liberty News
LCA baseball standouts to continue lifelong friendship as Flames
|Zach Clinton (left) and Josh Barrick have each decided to play baseball at Liberty University, beginning in the 2014-15 academic year.
High school baseball standouts Josh Barrick and Zach Clinton, both of Forest, Va., each signed letters of commitment on Tuesday, Nov. 19, to play for the Liberty University baseball team beginning in the 2014-15 academic year. The seniors from Liberty Christian Academy in Lynchburg, Va., each received interest and communication from several other colleges, including Duke, Davidson, Southeast Missouri State, Morehead State, Virginia Tech, and the Naval Academy.
Playing for the Flames will continue a remarkable 13-year run in which Barrick and Clinton have played on every baseball team together since age 5.
"It'll be like the next four chapters," Barrick said. "It is like our book is still only three-fourths of the way done and this is the next part of our story."
"We have always been dreaming about college, now it's actually happening," Clinton added.
The friends have managed to excel in other sports, such as football and basketball, while working on — if not playing — baseball year-round. On top of that, they are leaders in LCA's Fellowship of Christian Athletes chapter and are both national merit scholars.
Their close relationship has led to strong chemistry on the field and extra motivation off the field.
"We've always pushed each other, raising the expectation level for one another," Clinton said.
"We are like brothers," Barrick added. "We have always been able to play next to each other knowing that we have each other's back."
The duo's dedication has involved an estimated 60-100 baseball games per year since age 9 and countless hours of practice.
"You don't see a lot of guys who are on the football field Friday night and then Saturday morning are on the baseball field chasing ground balls," said Randy Tomlin, head baseball coach for LCA and for the Richmond Braves national travel team that Barrick and Clinton have played on for five years.
The reward has been bountiful. Clinton and Barrick have each earned several individual athletic honors and together led teams to dozens of championships.
Tomlin said their encouragement for one another has led to an unrivaled level of excellence. (Tomlin played for Liberty from 1986-89 before going on to play professional baseball for nine years. He served as an assistant coach at Liberty from 1998-2007 and coached with the Washington Nationals organization before returning to Lynchburg.)
"They practice with intensity in order to raise the level and push each other to be competitive in everything that they do," Tomlin said. "Because of their work ethic, because of their desire, because of their competitiveness, when they step on the field (at Liberty) there won't be anybody who will be able to outwork them in that respect. … This opportunity to play in college is earned not given. They have done what they needed to do to earn the right to compete at (the collegiate) level."
Tomlin added that more importantly than skill, they both display strong character and leadership.
"Every team that I have seen them both on, the team has been made better in every way because of the influence that they bring. Both on the field — with their work ethic, expectation for competing and practicing, to their own character and godliness and how they handle themselves — as well as off the field through the way they live," he said. "Their standards are most importantly God's standards. They are leaders both while playing and while they are around the other guys on each team."
Barrick and Clinton each have strong ties to Liberty. Both of their fathers and mothers are graduates of the university. Clinton's father, Dr. Tim Clinton, is the executive director of the Center for Counseling & Family Studies. Andy Barrick ('00), Josh's father, played for Liberty's baseball team during the 1984-85 season before going on to another school out of which he was drafted to play professionally. He later went on to complete his degree with Liberty. Andy Barrick, often assisted by Dr. Clinton, coached all the boys' baseball teams until high school.
The boys have attended LCA since kindergarten. LCA was started by Liberty founder Dr. Jerry Falwell as a ministry of Thomas Road Baptist Church, which he also started. The church and school are located adjacent to Liberty's campus. The young men's choice to attend Liberty is the manifestation of Dr. Falwell's vision to develop a quality Christian education system from kindergarten all the way through university.
Though the ability to play together in college is a nice perk, the decision to attend Liberty was reached separately.
"We always wanted to play together, but we wanted to see our options and go from there. We are excited for each other," Barrick said.
What put Liberty over the top, ultimately, was the Christian atmosphere, they said.
"Jesus is everything in my life. I would not be here if it wasn't for the grace of God," Barrick said. "Sports are great, we both love baseball, but the most important thing is your relationship with God."
"My faith is a huge factor in my life," Clinton said, noting it was nice not to have to choose between a Christian atmosphere and a quality baseball program. "Liberty's team is on the rise; they have great players; they get better every year. We just want to come in and contribute and be good teammates," Clinton said, with Barrick adding: "… ultimately helping the Flames win baseball games."
Tomlin, Tim Clinton, and Andy Barrick all say these two players are prepared to do this.
"The countless hours of practice, the dedication and effort" has provided this opportunity for the duo, said Tim Clinton. "Hard work: it's a defining characteristic of these two kids; they have worked their souls out. … That is why God has placed them in a role of leadership."
"Everything we did was trying to prepare them for this opportunity," Andy Barrick added. "When they go to LU, they know the real work begins. It does not stop. Hopefully they lead and make right choices, and honor God in all they do — and the rest of it will take care of itself."
Josh Barrick and Zach Clinton each said they would not be the men they are today without the strong spiritual upbringing and encouragement of their parents and coaches. And though they look forward to college, one goal is on their mind as they relish their final year of high school: a state baseball championship. Last season, LCA notched its first-ever state tournament victory before losing in the state semifinals. But this year, Barrick and Clinton say nothing short of the title crown will satisfy the Bulldogs.


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November 3, 2012 | Lynchburg, Va.
The Liberty Flames paintball team won three of four matches at home Sunday to open regular season play. With one day of action under its belt, Liberty is in a tie for first place in the Southeast Conference of the National Collegiate Paintball Association.
The Flames took on Kennesaw State in Sunday's opening matchup, losing 3-4. Liberty managed to jump ahead in the first 10-minute half, leading at the break 2-1 before the Owls took control of the game.
That would be the only time on Sunday Liberty found itself on the short end of the score sheet.
Liberty next faced the University of Tennessee, edging the Volunteers by a score of 5-4. The Flames led at halftime 3-2.
In a rematch with the Owls, Liberty took a 3-1 lead going into halftime and matched scores with Kennesaw in the second to earn the revenge win 4-2.
To conclude the afternoon, the Flames took on Tennessee once more. After one half of play, the two teams were locked up at 2-2. Liberty came out blazing in the second half, outscoring the Vols 2-1 and claiming a 4-3 victory.


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In the Phase II of the NIS project, six focus groups were established, involving countries with advanced methodologies, data sets, or special research or policy interests:
A series of four international meetings on innovation and knowledge-based economies were held in Australia in 1998:
Museum of Contemporary Art, Sydney (19-20 November 1998)
This Conference was hosted by Professor Jane Marceau, Director of the Australian Expert Group in Industry Studies and Pro-Vice-Chancellor (Research) at the University of Western Sydney Macarthur. It involved international experts on innovation in addition to OECD Delegates, and focused on the findings and policy implications of the analysis undertaken in the OECD project on National Innovation Systems. The proceedings will be published by the Australian government in early 1999.
Hyatt Hotel, Canberra (23-24 November 1998)
This was the second of the biannual meetings of the OECD Working Group on Innovation and Technology Policy (TIP) in 1998. The Agenda included items on public/private research partnerships, trends in science and technology labour markets, and technology and sustainable development. It also reviewed the results of the meeting on innovation systems in Sydney on 19-20 November and how these might influence the directions of future TIP work.
Hyatt Hotel, Canberra (25 November 1998)
This TIP Workshop brought together international experts to discuss means for increasing returns to government research investments and for diffusing public R&D results throughout the economy. It focused on issues such as the design of research/industry partnerships, regulatory frameworks, intellectual property rights regimes, technology transfer conditions and venture capital supply. It addressed both the advantages and disadvantages of greater commercialisation of government-funded research and the implications for researchers and for innovation in general. The proceedings will by published by the OECD in early 1999.
Hyatt Hotel, Canberra (26-27 November 1998)
This Seminar, co-organised by the OECD Centre for Co-operation with Non-members (CCNM) and the Australian government, brought together representatives of the OECD Group of National Experts on Science and Technology Indicators (NESTI), large non-member countries (Brazil, China, India, Indonesia and Russia) and APEC countries. It considered a wide scope of issues related to the development and policy relevance of science and technology indicators and explored possibilities for ongoing OECD/APEC co-operation regarding the development and maintenance of up-to-date databases of science and technology indicators.
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For Matthew and Brianne Wojtesta, it all started about a week after the birth of their daughter Vera. Matthew was picking up his son from kindergarten when he got a phone call.
It was their pediatrician, with some shocking news. Vera had been flagged by New York's newborn screening program as possibly having a potentially deadly disease, and would need to go see a neurologist the next day.
Like every state, New York requires that newborns get a small heel prick so that a few drops of blood can be sent to a lab for testing. The idea is to catch health problems that could cause death or disability without early intervention.
But in recent years, patient advocacy groups have been pushing states to adopt mandatory newborn screening for more and more diseases, including ones that have no easy diagnosis or treatment.
One of those is Krabbe disease, a rare and devastating neurological disorder.
In 2006, New York became the first state to screen for Krabbe, and until recently it was the only state to do so. Screening for this disease is expanding, even though some experts say the treatment available doesn't seem to help affected children as much as was initially hoped — and testing can put some families in a kind of fearful limbo.
New York has screened nearly 2 million children for Krabbe. About 300 have been picked out as needing follow-up tests and evaluation to see if they really have the disease. One of those was Vera Wojtesta.
After getting that disturbing news, Matthew Wojtesta went to the family's home in Rochester, where his wife was still recuperating from childbirth. Brianne remembers that he sat on the bed and woke her up very gently, putting his hand on her knee and saying, "You know, honey, the doctor just called ... "
That night, after their older children were sleeping, they got on the Internet and read and read. It was terrifying to learn what Krabbe can do to a child.
Babies with Krabbe have an enzyme deficiency that damages a coating around nerves called myelin. At first, babies with the disease seem normal. But then everything starts to change — and without screening, families become desperate as they struggle to figure out what's wrong.
Angel Custer and Anthony Shaffer had that awful experience. They are "Grammy" and "Pappy" to Jaylah Donaire-Bechtel, Custer's 20-month-old granddaughter. She lives with them in Harrisburg, Pa.
When Jaylah was a few months old, she stopped drinking from her bottle because she couldn't suck on it. She was screaming in pain almost nonstop. "She stopped smiling, she stopped laughing," says Custer. "We lost all that."
By the time a doctor diagnosed Krabbe disease, it was too late for any treatment. Jaylah can't move her arms or legs. She can't sit up or talk. She can't even swallow her own spit — someone has to suction it out with a tube, many times an hour.
Custer and Shaffer work staggered shifts so they can care for Jaylah around the clock. They try to help her experience everything she can. She eats through a tube, but they let her taste pickles and olives, and give her Dum Dum lollipops. Jaylah watches cartoons like Dora and SpongeBob, and Shaffer gives her elaborate manicures.
But like other children with Krabbe, Jaylah will eventually go deaf and blind and then die. "I always said you wouldn't put your dog through that. But we've got to watch our child go through that," says Custer.
That's why Custer has been urging lawmakers in her state to follow the lead of New York.
The New York screening program really only began because of Jim Kelly, a former Buffalo Bills quarterback who is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. After his son, Hunter, was diagnosed with Krabbe, Kelly and his family started a foundation called Hunter's Hope.
In 2005, physicians published an article in the New England Journal of Medicine on using umbilical cord blood transplants to treat newborns with Krabbe. Babies who survived this risky treatment did much better than babies who got no treatment. But the transplant had to be done before symptoms appeared. And babies were only being diagnosed that early if they had an older sibling who previously had developed Krabbe, revealing that the disease ran in the family.
With a viable treatment suddenly available, the Hunter's Hope Foundation convinced New York officials that every newborn in the state should be tested.
"I was frankly amazed when it went through. I really never thought they'd be able to do it," says Dr. Patricia Duffner, a neurologist who was working at the University at Buffalo School of Medicine when she diagnosed Hunter Kelly in 1997.
"I didn't realize how complicated it was going to be," says Duffner. "None of us realized how complicated it was going to be."
Because the disease is so rare, there was a lot that doctors didn't know. One thing was clear: There are different forms of Krabbe. The early infantile form hits babies, but late-onset forms of Krabbe can start in childhood, the teen years or even decades into adulthood.
Duffner says a consortium of experts in New York had to quickly come up with an approach that would let them identify newborns with the severe, early form that requires urgent action.
"No one else had done it prior to New York state," says Michele Caggana, director of the state's newborn screening program. "And so there wasn't really demonstration, at least early on, that the screening test actually worked or that it could be done."
The state lab in Albany checks a baby's enzyme level, and if it's below a certain cutoff, the lab also examines part of the baby's DNA. Then these initial screening results are sent to a specialist who meets with the family and evaluates the infant.
Brianne and Matthew Wojtesta didn't sleep much as they waited for Vera's neurology appointment.
"I think the scariest part was that they are asymptomatic at the very beginning," says Brianne. Vera looked so healthy. But if Vera had Krabbe, they'd have to fly her to specialists at Duke University in North Carolina for an irreversible procedure that she might not survive.
They went to the University of Rochester Medical Center, where a neurologist, Dr. Jennifer Kwon, had their lab results. She told them that what was seen in Vera's DNA probably meant she's just a carrier who did not actually have the disease.
"I didn't think it was going to be a difficult situation at all," says Kwon. But she couldn't be sure until she ran more tests.
The parents spent an anxious week waiting for the results. "We talked a lot, we cried, we read science," says Matthew.
To their great relief, the tests showed Vera does not have any form of Krabbe.
In this case, Kwon says, she could be reassuring. But for other families, she can't.
When doctors run DNA tests and see genetic mutations, it's not clear what they all mean. There is one mutation strongly associated with the early infantile form of Krabbe, but many other mutations are a mystery.
With ambiguous test results, sometimes Kwon has to tell parents that it's possible that their child may develop some form of Krabbe at some point. "But I can't tell you when, I can't tell you what it's going to look like. I can't tell you if there's any way to prevent it. And I can't tell you that we will be able to treat it if it develops," says Kwon. "So that's very difficult for families to hear."
She says they're often angry and scared. Now, as they watch their children grow up, they're haunted by the thought of this terrible disease. This has happened to dozens of families in New York. None of these kids has shown any symptoms, as far as anyone knows.
And when the screening program does find unmistakable signs of infant Krabbe, the treatment has turned out to be problematic as well. Five infants in New York have been candidates for cord blood transplants. One family refused. Four babies got treatment. Two of them died of complications. One child is severely neurologically impaired. And one child has had problems but has been able to start kindergarten.
All of this has left Kwon feeling like the benefits do not outweigh the potential harms.
"No one should be screening for disorders that are this difficult," Kwon says. She wants to help children and doesn't want Krabbe to exist, but she is not convinced that newborn screening is the way to make it go away.
She's not the only one who takes this view.
"My heart goes out to any parent who is going to have a child with this diagnosis. It is a devastating diagnosis. But just because parents are desperate doesn't mean that we should offer them things that actually aren't going to help," says Dr. Lainie Friedman Ross, a medical ethicist at the University of Chicago.
With so many unknowns, newborn screening for Krabbe has to be seen as research, Ross says. And, she points out, it's unethical to enroll people in a research experiment without their consent. If states want to try screening newborns for Krabbe, she says, they should first get parents' permission, instead of simply requiring the test by law.
"When we think of a public health mandate, we think about something for which early testing and screening is going to prevent morbidity and mortality," says Ross. "We don't think of creating individuals for whom we say we don't know if this is a health problem, we don't know when it will be a health problem."
It can be wrenching for parents who get false positives or uncertain results from newborn screening, says Stefan Timmermans, a sociologist at the University of California, Los Angeles, who has studied families' reactions to screening for rare disorders.
"You have completely changed the experience of having a baby. You have completely changed what it means to have a newborn," he says. "Rather than looking at your little bundle of joy and smiling, you are looking at a child as if he or she can die at any moment."
But some doctors do support Krabbe screening. Dr. Maria Escolar, a Krabbe specialist at Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh, says that even if the available treatment isn't perfect, "families develop relationships with their children, and no matter what degree of disability they have, they treasure each day that they are spending with their children."
And without screening, undiagnosed babies with Krabbe will suffer, she says. They won't get the right drugs to ease pain and other symptoms until doctors finally figure out that they have this uncommon disease.
"It is a terrible thing to see. And when you experience that, when you live that, that's when you realize how important newborn screening is," says Escolar.
The small group of families whose children have lived is the driving force behind an expansion of Krabbe screening.
Missouri started last year and has found a half-dozen ambiguous cases with test results that suggest a risk of some form of this disease.
New Jersey and Illinois will start screening next year, and New Mexico has decided to do it, too.
Christina Levasheff is trying to get her home state, California, to start screening. Levasheff and her husband lost their son Judson to Krabbe. He seemed perfectly healthy until he was about 2 1/2 years old. Then he began to have symptoms, and within five months he could no longer speak, move or see.
Levasheff, who lives in Orange County, says she first heard of newborn screening for Krabbe after Judson had passed away. Thinking back to the days before Krabbe struck her son, she asked herself: "Would I have wanted to know that he had this disease?"
She decided that the answer is yes. "When you have a child that's going to face a terminal disease," she says, "do you want knowledge and options and choice, or do you want it to just happen to you?"
Levasheff says screening is needed because all efforts to find new treatments for Krabbe in the future are going to depend on knowing about this progressive disease before symptoms appear.
The Hunter's Hope Foundation ultimately wants screening to be done nationwide.
"Children are not being screened for Krabbe at birth and dying because of it. And they die a very slow and painful death," says Anna Grantham, who runs the foundation's newborn screening effort.
In 2009, an expert committee that advises the federal government looked at New York's results and did not recommend that all states adopt it. Grantham says she hopes the committee will revisit that decision, but that will take time. "We feel like there's not time to wait for that, because lives are being lost," says Grantham.
Brianne and Matthew Wojtesta say they don't know if mandated screening is the right way to handle all of these difficult issues. They personally were glad for the testing, even though they also say it was traumatic.
Brianne says for her, the fear lingers, even though the good news they got about Vera was the best possible outcome.
"What part of this disease do we not know, what part of the genetic composition do we not know, what about the late onset?" she wonders. "Irrationally, I know, it still hangs over me. It's still scary."
The experience has changed her, and she says it will forever be a part of her relationship with her daughter.
It's MORNING EDITION, from NPR News. I'm Steve Inskeep.
And I'm David Greene. Good morning.
Today, in Your Health, we're taking a closer look at newborn screening. Every time a baby is born in this country, a few drops of blood from a small heel prick are sent to a lab for testing. The idea is to catch health problems that could cause death or disability without early intervention. In recent years, states have started screening for more and more diseases.
NPR's Nell Greenfieldboyce reports on mandatory testing for a disease that has no easy diagnosis or treatment.
NELL GREENFIELDBOYCE, BYLINE: For Matthew Wojtesta, it all started about a week after the birth of his daughter Vera. He was picking up his son from kindergarten when he got a phone call.
MATTHEW WOJTESTA: It was our pediatrician who called and said: So, you've been scheduled to go in and meet Dr. Kwon from Neurology. And I said: I have? And he said, yeah.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: The pediatrician explained that Vera had been flagged by New York's newborn screening program as possibly having a serious disease.
WOJTESTA: I said: Well, which one? And he was quite cagey at first.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: The doctor said you'll find out at the appointment. If I tell you now, you'll just panic. But Matthew insisted. Finally, the doctor said: Vera's blood test had shown signs that she might have Krabbe disease, a rare neurological disorder. Matthew went home, where his wife Brianne was napping. She remembers that he gently woke her up.
BRIANNE WOJTESTA: And put his hand on my knee and said, you know, honey, the doctor just called.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: That night, they got on the Internet and read and read. It was terrifying to learn what Krabbe can do to a child.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: To understand how bad this disease can be, meet Jaylah. She lives in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania with her grammy and her pappy. She's almost two years old and has dark brown hair. She's snoozing on a couch in front of a muted TV that's showing cartoons. There's an oxygen tube in her nose, and one just like it in the nose of her stuffed animal.
ANGEL CUSTER: That is her monkey. Her monkey plays music. She sleeps with that. That gets placed in between her arms.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: Angel Custer says her granddaughter can't move her arms or legs. She can't sit up or talk. She can't even swallow her own spit. Someone has to suction it out with a tube.
CUSTER: Do some more? No, OK.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: Jaylah seemed normal for the first few months of her life. Then she stopped taking her bottle. She started screaming in pain, nonstop.
CUSTER: She stopped smiling. She stopped laughing.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: No one knew she had Krabbe, because Pennsylvania, unlike New York, does not test newborns for this disease. It took months to figure out what was wrong. By then, it was too late for treatment. Jaylah will go deaf and blind, and then die.
CUSTER: I always said, you know, you wouldn't put your dog through that. But we've got to watch our child go through that.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: Jaylah's family says no one should suffer like this. That's why they recently brought Jaylah to the state capital, to convince lawmakers that Pennsylvania should follow New York's lead. New York was the first state to screen newborns for Krabbe.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: Here in Albany, tiny blood samples are sent through machines.
MICHELE CAGGANA: This is the Krabbe lab.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: Michele Caggana is the director of the state's newborn screening program. She says for Krabbe, they check the level of an enzyme. If it's low, they run DNA tests. She says they've been doing this for over seven years.
CAGGANA: As of yesterday: 1,955,754 babies. So almost two million babies have been screened.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: Of those two million babies, about 300 have been picked out as possibly having Krabbe. One of them was Vera. After Brianne and Matthew Wojtesta got that phone call and read about children with Krabbe, they couldn't sleep.
WOJTESTA: The scariest part was that they are asymptomatic at the very beginning.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: Little Vera looked so healthy. But if she had Krabbe, she would immediately need a risky treatment: chemotherapy to destroy her bone marrow, then a cord blood transplant, probably at Duke University.
WOJTESTA: So we're looking at flying interstate with a brand new baby to try to do a completely radical transfusion.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: The next day's follow-up appointment was at the University of Rochester Medical Center. Neurologist Jennifer Kwon had their lab results. She told them that what was seen in Vera's DNA probably meant she was just a carrier, who did not actually have the disease.
JENNIFER KWON: I didn't think it was going to be a difficult situation at all.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: But Kwon couldn't be sure until she ran more tests. Matthew says they spent an anxious week waiting for the results.
WOJTESTA: We talked a lot. We cried. We read science.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: In the end, the tests showed Vera did not have Krabbe. Kwon says, in this case, she could be reassuring. But for other families, she can't, because the diagnosis isn't simple. This disease doesn't only hit infants. There are forms that don't appear until later in childhood, the teen years or even adulthood. When scientists run tests and find genetic mutations, it's often unclear what they mean. Kwon sometimes has to tell parents, look, we just don't know. Your child may develop some form of Krabbe.
KWON: But I can't tell you when. I can't tell what it's going to look like. I can't tell you if there's any way to prevent it. And I can't tell you that we will be able to treat it if it develops. So that's very difficult for families to hear.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: And how do they react?
KWON: They're often very angry.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: And scared. Now, as they watch their children grow up, they're haunted by the thought of this terrible disease. This has happened to dozens of families. And when the screening program does find unmistakable signs of infant Krabbe, the treatment is problematic. Five infants in New York have been candidates for cord blood transplants. One family refused. Four babies got treatment. Two of them died of complications. One child is severely neurologically impaired. And one child has had problems, but has been able to start kindergarten.
So, here is the stark question posed by Krabbe screening: To try to help a small number of children who will still face an uncertain future, is it worth putting other families in a fearful limbo for years?
Kwon says no.
KWON: No one should be screening for disorders that are this difficult.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: But some doctors do support screening. Maria Escolar is a Krabbe expert at Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh. She says even if treatment isn't perfect...
MARIA ESCOBAR: You know families develop relationships with their children no matter what degree of disability they have, they treasure each day that they are spending with their children.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: And she says, without screening, babies with Krabbe often go months without a diagnosis. That means the baby doesn't get the right drugs to ease pain, the family is desperate.
ESCOBAR: It is a terrible thing to see, and when you experience that, when you live that, that's when you realize how important newborn screening is.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: The small group of families who have lived that are the driving force behind an expansion of Krabbe screening. Missouri started last year, New Jersey and Illinois will start next year, and New Mexico has decided to do it too. The reason New York started this controversial program was because of a family -the family of Jim Kelly, a former Buffalo Bills quarterback who's in the NFL Hall of Fame. His son had Krabbe. A foundation named after him, called Hunter's Hope, wants testing in every state, even though an expert committee that advises the federal government looked at New York's results and did not recommend that.
Vera's parents, Brianne and Matthew Wojtesta, say they don't know if mandated screening is the right way to go. They personally were glad for the testing, even though Brianne also says it was traumatic, and the fear lingers.
WOJTESTA: What part of this disease do we not know, what part of the genetic composition do we not know, what about the late onset? Irrationally, I know, it still hangs over me. It's still scary.
GREENFIELDBOYCE: She says the experience has changed her. And it will forever be a part of her relationship with her daughter.
Nell Greenfieldboyce, NPR News. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.


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The market seems to have settled the debate between investors who see deflation as the greatest threat versus others who have warned about inflation–in favor of the former. But that is precisely what leads indexing guru Rob Arnott, a lone inflationista wolf, to howl that today's market provides a golden opportunity to buy inflation-fighting asset classes at "below retail prices."
In his latest newsletter to his Research Affiliates clients, Arnott argues that the "3-D" threat of "unending deficits, massive debt and unfavorable demographics" will eventually overwhelm the deflationary impact of our weak, possibly recessionary economy. And prepared investors can protect their portfolios now, cheaply, from the hyperinflation he expects will ensue.
In his subtly argued missive, Arnott asserts that asset classes that serve to fight inflation should be viewed not merely as an important part of a portfolio including stocks and bonds but should actually be seen as the portfolio's core –"the largest and most central part of one's portfolio mix."
Looking back at September's market performance, Arnott observed that these asset classes got clobbered; indeed, only four periods in recent market history saw worse performance and all of them were associated with major crises–the 2008 global financial crisis; the 1998 Long-Term Capital Management/Russian default market plunge; the 1990 invasion of Kuwait; and the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
So why would the diversified portfolio Arnott recommends perform so poorly (and worse than a 60/40 stock and bond mix) at this juncture in market history? Because, he says, "the markets wholeheartedly abandoned the idea of inflation protection during the third quarter."
Arnott points out that in crisis periods where his diversified portfolio plummeted, the subsequent three years trounced 60-40 stock-bond portfolios by an impressive 2.7% margin.
Further bolstering his case for inflation-fighting asset classes–which include not only traditional tools such as TIPS, commodities and REITs but "stealth inflation fighters" such as bank loans, emerging market currency debt and high-yield bonds–Arnott explains that inflation is grossly undercounted; real inflation may be as much as double official inflation, he says. According to the current method of calculating inflation, if an iPad2 costs the same as the original iPad but with far better features, that is measured as if prices have fallen. But you can't eat an iPad, he points out.
Worse, were one to rely on the new calculation method, one can't but expect rapidly rising inflation since the average is based on soon-to-be-dropped year-ago and three-year ago figures when inflation was zero or actually negative (in 2008, for example).
That should soon put official figures for total inflation in the 4-5% range and true inflation as Arnott reckons it in the 6-10% range. A continuation of the Fed's current monetary policy (i.e., printing money) under these circumstances should lead to hyperinflation.
Arnott's conclusion: buy emerging market debt, investment-grade credit, emerging-market equities and high-yield bonds now–while they're cheap. He acknowledges it may be too early–the macroeconomic picture continues to deteriorate–but says investors can mitigate the risk by adding exposure incrementally.
To make room for these investments, he advises selling U.S. and other developed market debt, which he foresees bringing negative real returns over the coming years.
See an earlier exclusive AdvisorOne interview with Arnott where he discusses the U.S. debt problem and how to address the Social Security issue.


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Stickiest ever BBQ ribs with chive dip
Slow cook these American-style pork ribs so they're really tender then coat in an irresistibly sweet, sticky sauce
Nutrition and extra info
- Freeze before barbecuing
Nutrition: per serving (8)
- kcal450
- fat23g
- saturates9g
- carbs37g
- sugars35g
- fibre0g
- protein25g
- salt2g
- 2 racks baby back pork ribs
- 2 cans cola
- 2 tsp toasted sesame seed (optional)
For the sauce
- 8 tbsp tomato ketchup
- 8 tbsp soft brown sugar
- 2 tbsp soy sauce
Soy saucesoy sor-s
An Asian condiment and ingredient that comes in a variety of of varieties ranging from light to…
- 2 tbsp Worcestershire sauce
- 2 tbsp sweet chilli sauce
- 1 tsp paprika
A spice that's central to Hungarian cuisine, paprika is made by drying a particular type of…
For the chive dip
- 300ml pot half-fat soured cream
- 2 tbsp salad cream
- small bunch chive, snipped
- 6 spring onions, sliced
Spring onionsp-ring un-yun
Also known as scallions or green onions, spring onions are in fact very young onions, harvested…
Heat oven to 160C/140C fan/gas 3 and snugly fit the ribs into a roasting tin. Pour over the cola and enough water to cover the ribs, then cover the tin tightly with foil. Roast for 2-3 hrs, turning halfway through, until the ribs are really tender but not falling apart.
Meanwhile, put all the sauce ingredients in a small saucepan. Gently heat, then bubble for about 2 mins, stirring.
When the ribs are done, carefully lift each out of the tin and sit on kitchen paper to dry. Tip away the liquid and wipe out the tin. Put the dry ribs back in the tin and coat all over with the sticky sauce. Cover and chill for at least 1 hr to marinate, but better still up to 24 hrs. Can be frozen at this stage.
Mix the dip ingredients together and chill until ready to serve.
Heat the barbecue and wait for the flames to die down, or heat oven to 220C/200C/gas 7. Add the ribs (in a roasting tin, if using the oven) and cook for 20 mins, turning occasionally, and basting often with remaining sauce. When ribs are sticky, hot through and crisping on the outside, slice to serve. Scatter with sesame seeds, if you like, and plate up with any remaining sticky sauce, warmed, and the chive dip.


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The Meaning of Sin
The word sin is found throughout Scripture, and both the Hebrew and Greek share the same basic meaning. The Hebrew word חָטָא chata means "to miss the target, or to lose the way," and the Greek word ἁμαρτάνω hamartano is defined as "miss the mark, err, or do wrong." Continue reading
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Fine Press Books and the King James Bible
The 40-location Manifold Greatness traveling exhibit is in the midst of its grand finale at the Nancy Guinn Memorial Library of the Rockdale-Conyers Library System in Conyers, Georgia; the Conyers exhibit runs through July 12, the final day of the 40-site tour. Several months from now, the recently retired panels will be on view in Rochester, New York, as explained by Manifold Greatness co-curator Steven Galbraith:
A few weeks ago one of the four sets of the traveling Manifold Greatness exhibition arrived at the Cary Graphic Arts Collection at the Rochester Institute of Technology, where they will be on display one last time this coming fall. Although that's still several months away, I couldn't resist putting up a few of the panels. It reminded me of my second post to the Manifold Greatness blog, The Exhibition Panels Have Arrived, back on April 15, 2011 (see photo below). I felt like I was being reacquainted with old friends, to whom I want to introduce new friends at RIT.
The focus of the RIT's Cary Collection differs quite a lot from that of my previous home at the Folger Shakespeare Library. The Cary Collection documents the history of graphic communication, with an emphasis on the history of printing. One of the strongest collections here is of fine press books; that is, books that exhibit exceptional quality in design, materials, and execution. With this in mind, the Cary Collection's version of Manifold Greatness will present the history of the King James Bible alongside 19th and 20th-century fine press editions of the Bible, most of which use the King James translation as their text.
For example, the edition of the King James Bible printed by The Doves Press is a typographical masterpiece (Hammersmith, England, 1903-1905). Designed to reflect 15th-century Venetian printing, this Bible has little ornamentation, letting the text speak for itself through an elegant typeface. The type's designer and founder of the Doves Press, T.J. Cobden-Sanderson, is as famous for his type design as he is for what he eventually did with his type. In 1916 he threw his type and the punches and matrices used to make it into the River Thames. A dramatic end to the Doves Press.
The edition of The Song of Solomon published by Chapman and Hall in 1897 features beautiful Pre-Raphaelite-inspired plates designed by H. Granville Fell, but what makes the Cary Collection copy so outstanding is the book's vellucent binding by Cedric Chivers (1853-1929) from Bath, England. In preparing a vellucent binding, a painting on paper is set beneath a translucent layer of vellum, so that the image can be seen through it. Any tooling, like the good tooling used in this design, was applied to the outside of the binding. Not only does this technique create a striking binding, but it also ensures that the painting won't be damaged when the book is handled or shelved between other books.
One last example from the Cary Collection demonstrates that illustrations found in fine press editions of the King James Bible can be as remarkable as the type and the bindings. One of the most famous printmakers and type designers of the early twentieth century is Eric Gill (1882–1940). If you have used the typeface Gill Sans, then you are familiar with Gill's work. Gill created 50 illustrations for The Golden Cockerel Press edition of The Four Gospels (1931). Look through these pages to see the Deposition of Christ as told in the Gospel of Mark, and notice how Gill incorporates the word "And" into the design. Joseph of Arimathea actually stands on the letter N, while a figure, perhaps Mary, the mother of Jesus, climbs a ladder that scales the side of the letter A. Mary Magdalene holds Jesus at the base of the cross.
These are just a few of the fine press editions of the King James Bible that will be on display at the Cary Collection this coming fall when we commemorate the 400th anniversary of the printing of the King James Bible. I guess it will officially be the 402nd anniversary, but who's counting?
Steven Galbraith, Curator of the Cary Graphic Arts Collection at Rochester Institute of Technology, was co-curator of the Manifold Greatness exhibition at the Folger Shakespeare Library.


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Well, you're lucky then, because Macs are so much easier to use.
When you download a Mac game, it generally comes in a .dmg file (which stands for disk image).
When you double-click that, it "mounts" the disk image and opens a window that contains the game icon, and you can then drag the game icon to your Macintosh HD.
You need to drag the game icon from the disk image to the same location where your older version is located.
For example, it is always a good idea to use the Applications folder on a Mac to store all the applications you download.
I have a folder inside that called "Games", and that is where I put all the games I download.
I can't help you beyond that because I don't know where your original Virtual Villagers game is located on your Macintosh HD.
Hopefully you're not playing it from within the disc image.
Well Jay, again thanks for your help but it appears that i am officially an idiot. My original game can only be found on the desktop. I'm just trying to figure out if i can reload? reinstall from game site or just shut up, bite the bullet and start over. Well two things are for sure. in future only buy games from here and make sure to install and not play from disc image. Waaah oh well.
darkfae - your desktop is a "folder", too.
Macintosh HD -> Users -> (your Mac username) -> Desktop
So, if you just drag-drop the game icon onto the desktop, that *should* replace the old one (provided they are named the same and that's where you are playing from).
If you are playing from the disk image, then you should be able to replace that one by drag-dropping the new game icon over the old one.
It's really the same no matter where the game icon is.
1) Open the new disk image.
2) Drag-drop the game icon over top the old one.
3) Click "Replace" in the dialog that comes up ("An item named Virtual Villagers - The Secret City already exists in this location. Do you want to replace it with the one you're moving?")
It shouldn't be difficult to do.
To Tod:
About training builders -
You can train builders by having them repair the huts.
There is also an energy potion that will sometimes increase building skill. The potion is Black Orchid + Tiger Lily + Cactus.
Train as many builders as you can because the statue is a big project. It can handle up to 15 or so builders.
Good luck! :)
To Kat:
About gaining parenting skill -
You can do it with a male, no problem. If you have a female over age 50, she won't have babies. You can drop the male onto her over and over, without waiting for them to go indoors. When you hear the kissing sound and see at the bottom that the villager improved at parenting, that's as much as you have to do. Separate them and immediately drop him again.
He can also gain parenting skill by telling a story to a child. Do it the same as with the female... drop him on the child and as soon as you see that he improved at parenting, pick him up and drop him again.
I was able to get a master in all five trades by doing it this way. Age 51 should give you plenty of time to get that last master.
To grinnyp:
To get older villagers -
Villagers tend to live longer after you purchase levels 2 and 3 of Medicine. Plus, general good health helps. Heal them when they are sick, make health potions, train doctors, etc. As you progress through the game and solve the puzzles, your villagers will live longer.
To Kandi:
Check to see which version you have. The corrected version is 1.00.04 (it's in the bottom left corner of the menu screen). If you have the earlier version, you'll need to download the game again from the site where you originally purchased it. It should load on top of your existing game and save all your progress.
This is both advice and a warning based on a mistake I made:
Be careful when going for your Jack-Of-All-Trades
I made the mistake of leaving the Parenting box checked on the character that I had chosen to be my Jack-Of-All-Trades.
If you use a girl you either have to wait 120 min every time she gets pregnant or wait until she's over 50 to have her master the parenting skill.
I chose a male that way he could parent all he wanted without getting preggers. I was clicking him and dropping him on a woman who was over 50 in order to have him become an expert sooner. However, I got distracted and left my computer for 15 min, with out unchecking the parenting box.
When I got back all of my women (excluding children and over 50's) were pregnant. That was all of my scientists except for one and a bunch of my builders and farmers. This set me back quite a bit as I had to wait 120 min to continue earning the tech points I needed.
My warning is to pay very close attention to your characters if you check the parenting box.
hey just to let all know the correct way to get 2-3 children pick up the same item or mushroom:1st step is to pause the game by hittnig your space bar 2nd step:put one child on or as close to the item :3rd step unpause and pause again instantly:then put another child on the same item .repeat step three put another child on item then unpause again if done correctly all three children will pick up that item hope this clears up some confusion
To Cindy:
There are a total of three huts to build for housing. The third one is just a foundation that looks like a pile of rocks until you build it. You won't be able to get beyond a population of 35 until it's built. Here's a screenshot of it:
To slcjhc:
About the Chief and the rare collectibles -
I've been trying to figure out that very thing! The rare collectibles can show up anywhere on the island, in all the usual places for collectibles. It seems like the Chief points a couple of different ways and I've had pretty good luck following either left or right depending on how much the Chief is turned when he points. As soon as you see the rainbow above his head and hear the gong, start looking immediately. They don't last long.
To Lt Dan:
About training builders -
If you've built everything else, you can train builders by having them repair existing huts. You'll need a Master Builder to draw the plans and to build the scaffolding, but after that they only need to be at least a Trainee Builder to work on the statue. Train as many as you can, up to 15 or 20.
For *brit*
The game doesn't have a standard "save" function, so to speak. The game just continues. If you close the game, your peeps just go on with what they're doing (unless you pause), and when you start the game again you can see their progress (or what sort of desperate situation they've gotten themselves into). If you're thinking about backing up to the last time you started the game, it just doesn't support that function.
I'm afraid that's not very helpful, is it?
For Fiona - about achieving master parent status for female villagers:
Believe it or not, I've actually taken notes on this (it's the cultural anthropologist in me). I'm sure you've noticed by now that different villagers have different learning curves. Some pick up skills very quickly, others learn more slowly. Watch your 14-18 year old females, put them on different tasks, and try to identify one that learns quickly. If you're really lucky, you'll have one that likes learning. I've had about a dozen females achieve master parent status, and it has taken me anywhere from 11 to 15 parenting sessions to achieve this, so that's anywhere from 22 to 30 years.
Another point though, your females can still improve at parenting after the age of 50. They can still "go inside," even though they'll produce no offspring, and they can tell children stories.
Hope that helps!
You have great tips! But i have a problem...... I can fix the statue if I get enough tech points, but I'm afraid my builders will die because some of my villagers ( including the Chief) are in their sixties. I am trying to get my 2nd hut fixed, and I just bought level 3 alchemy, IDK what to do about the statue! Please help. ~ Alybd
To Alydb:
About builders -
You just need to train some young builders. It's a good idea to train as many builders as you can. The statue can use as many as 15 or 20 builders. The more you have, the faster it will go. The huts can be fixed over and over again, so you should be able to train whatever you need.
To Tiffany:
About having babies -
Villagers will have babies if you are persistent. You don't have to wait for them to "go indoors". As soon as you hear the kissing sound, they are done. Keep dropping them on each other until you see the population counter go up or the female is holding a baby. The fertility potion may help. It is Cactus + Rose + Rose. Note: Females will not have babies after they reach 50 years old.
About the statue -
You have to drop the Chief on the statue first or nobody will do anything. You must have trained builders to work on it, at least Trainee level. The more builders you have, the quicker it will go. The statue can use up to 15 or 20 builders at a time.
To anyone:
About Farmers -
Honey and fruit will regenerate, but you also need to get rid of the sharks so you can fish. That will be your unlimited food source. If there's nothing to harvest, you can't train farmers, but you don't really need them until there's something to farm.
About rain -
I've seen it rain about every 20 or 30 minutes, but other times it's longer. Just like in real life, you can't predict the weather. However, one of the puzzles that you solve is for a weather dance. :)
I have read through every comment and saw 1 post with a similar problem but there was no reply to it.
I have several villagers (middle aged and multi skilled) that are stuck in the ocean just outside of the playable screen area. If I use the map view I can see them there but when I go back to the play screen they are just outside of reach. They won't return.
These villagers are many of my trained builders that I need to help repair the statue.
Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
I am not sure really but I believe that they were out there fishing and I can't check them now as they died.
To make matters worse my male parent went on an impregnating spree While I was away from the computer for about 30 minutes and I now have 14 nursing women. I am left with only a handful of working builders. Something tells me this is going to take awhile.
to sshhameless1:
Woah, sound like you have a problem. But I have one tip (if you didn't already do this)
If you go to menu and click options, then click fast,the timing will go faster. If you have it on slow it might say Nursing For 400 mins. But if you put it on fast, it will be about 120. But get your handful of builders to get to work as much as they can (researching, studying medicine, etc.)
I hope this helps.
I come here rarely, so there's little point in getting an account, but I've used the walkthrough tips on occasion and would like to add something to pay back for the help. :)
I've seen some comments regarding "doctors won't help weakening villagers" and the answers usually deal with "get higher medicine level", "get the aromatherapy puzzle" etc. So I think I can clarify here.
Doctors won't help a villager who is "weakened", no matter what their skill level is. Doctors only help villagers who are "sick". To help weakened villagers, mix a potion and have them use it:
either 2 Cactus and 1 Lotus, or 2 Lotus and 1 Cactus will help a lot (about 1/2 the health status bar).
Also, never try to have the already weakened villagers make the potion for themselves, as potions can blow up any time. Use a healthy villager, anybody at all.
Another thing, for things that don't succeed: matching up certain males with certain females, trying out certain potion mixes that blow up several times, etc. - simply keep trying. A pair may run away from each other many times, but if you just keep putting them back together, it will eventually work out. ;) Some potions WILL blow up more often than others, but try enough times and those will work out too.
PS - Jay, if you think anything I've left out of spoiler tags should be in them, I'd be fine with having it edited. :)
Oh gosh, I have a big problem.
My only two food sources are:
~apple tree
And there both OUT completely and I currently have Zero food? is there any other food sources i can get other than fish(I only have 3,000 tech points out of 50,000 that i need for magic)
I dont want to have to start over.
To Lorraine:
About food -
The fruit tree and honey will eventually regenerate. You can also plant two more trees by repairing the lift and using it to get the seeds. Have your chief make magic food every 24 hours. And lastly, have the children pick up mushrooms. You can use a little trick to double the mushroom points. Use the space bar to pause, drop a child on the mushroom, quickly hit space bar twice to unpause and pause again, then drop a second child on the mushroom. If you time it right and are quick enough, both children will pick up the mushroom.
OK, me again. ;)
Besides what Pam already said, a few tips:
Brown mushrooms are worth only 6 food points but red mushrooms are worth 35, so if you see one, drop everything else and get those.
One more thing you can do if you're really, REALLY desperate to save a starving community, is
pause the game, then rove the island and look for mushrooms, unfreezing the game only long enough to have kids pick it up, and pause again once they are deposited in the food bin. That way your villagers won't eat much meanwhile, and you can accumulate a food hoard that will let them survive the hard times.
But it's a lot of work, so only do it if you're really attached to your community. Otherwise just start over, and try to manage your priorities with more attention to food next time. :)
BTW, to those who had never seen a mango - those fruit on the trees that some people call apples or bananas - they are mangoes. :)
I understand the challenge and it was my mistake to leave such a viral young male with his skill preference set to parenting. Being the mother of a teenage boy I should have known better. ;)
What I don't get is why my villagers would fish out of bounds, for lack of a better description, then get stuck out there and die.
To sshhameless1:
Setting a male to parenting will definitely bring lots of babies. I usually set a female to parenting to keep the population going, but it doesn't get out of control.
I don't know why the villagers would swim out of bounds. That's a weird thing. If you ever have to drop them into the ocean yourself, just be sure to drop them to the left of the coral.
And... you're welcome. :)
To Lorraine:
Another way to get food...
You can place your chief on the food bin and he will begin to create magic food. Do not touch your chief until he is is done because if you stop him he cannot restart for another twenty-four hours.
...you can only do this once every twenty-four hours.
Hope this helps!
For dot:
About the pitcher plant:
There is an area just to the left of the alchemy lab where the kids hang out when "nature is calling." The pitcher plant is the tall red and green things as the very top of that area.
Note - be sure you actually have level 2 faction. Drove me nuts the first time I played. For all the other skills, you start with level 1 and your first upgrade is to level 2. For your faction, you start at level 0 and your first upgrade is to level 1. So you need to upgrade faction twice, once for 4500 tech points, and then a second time for 50,000 points.
For vez - about your slow villagers:
This is just part of the fun and mystery with Virtual Villagers. Your villagers have individual characteristics, and you have no control over that, sort of like with real people. Every time you start a game you get a different group of folks each with very individual characteristics. Generally speaking, the adults do move a great deal slower than the kids (unless you're lucky enough to get a villager who likes running).
One thing you can do to make sure they're running at their optimum speed is to make sure they have full health. They can become healthier by eating, so drop them on the food bin repeatedly until you see that the health bar is full.
To dot:
Here is a screenshot of the pitcher plant.
A few more tips:
If your tribal chief is a woman:
She can still have babies. Make use of that if your chief is not vital for a puzzle
Don't waste your scientists precious time to gather herbs for alchemy:
Use children instead. They will do the job in half the time.
some potions of the magic faction that might prove useful (or just fun)
berry+lotus+orchid - feels smarterberry+cactus+rose - scientific clarityberry+tiger lily+tiger lily - whoa! (teleports villager to a random place)
the best time to "tell a story" is:
when it rains. all kids will gather in the amphitheater and play in puddles


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debunker wrote:Hello everyone,
I made a claim in one of my posts that Christians don't really know who God of the Bible is, and that they are unware of His confusing and contradictory nature. Our esteemed member, Chief, has challenged me to produce evidence to support my claim.
I promised Chief that I'll be presenting my case sometime soon. However, I need to clarify the rules of the debate.
1- The Bible is the only permissible scripture (the use of any other scripture is NOT allowed in this debate).
2- The maximum number of opponents is 5. Chief and Quills are already invited. I would also like to invite Winston (although he's agnostic) and I'm willing to accept 2 more opponents.
3- Atheists, agnostics, every non-christian, Mods (and trolls) don't qualify as acceptable opponents.
These are the rules, Chief. I hope that you find them reasonable.
the mother of the faithful believers) The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good dreams which came true like bright day light, and then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continuously for many days before his desire to see his family. He used to take with him the journey food for the stay and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read.
This Koran is not such as can be produced by other than Allah;
on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that went before it,
and a fuller explanation of the Book (10:37 AYA/38 MP).
If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the LORD. (Deuteronomy 24:1-4)
And if he hath divorced her (the third time), then she is not lawful unto him thereafter until she hath wedded another husband. Then if he (the other husband) divorce her it is no sin for both of them that they come together again. (Sura 2:230, Pickthall)
He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms." Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. (Luke 24:45-47)
Whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave-- just as the Son of Man (Jesus) did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many. (Matthew 20:26-28)
"We (the Jews) slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the Messenger of God" - yet they did not slay him, neither crucified him, only a likeness of that was shown to them. ... and they slew him not of certainty - no indeed; God raised him up to Him; God is All-mighty, All-wise.(Sura 4:156-157, Arberry)
Quran Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers. (5:47, MP)
debunker wrote:1- God loves you, unconditionally?
An average Christian believes that they can sin all they want because God loved them so much as to allow His son to be nailed to the cross to wipe out all their
sins. Of course, this is nowhere near the truth. The truth (according to the Bible) is that your good deeds alone can't save you. In other words, God of the Bible
is merciless enough as to not be able to forgive you even if you loved Him and even if you led a righteous life. He needs BLOOD to be able to forgive you. And
nothing less than a worthy sacrifice will get you off the hook of facing His rampant wrath.
Now here's where it gets very confusing. God of the Bible, knowing that His appetite for high quality blood is insatiable, He realized that no man can deliver a
sacrifice worthy enough of satisfying His divine thirst for blood. So He decided to take the burden of sacrifice off humanity and throw it on the shoulders of
Jesus by brutally killing poor little Jesus himself! I know that doesn't make any sense. It's like when you apologize to someone and they insist they cannot forgive you unless they kill their own son. It sounds amazingly stupid, I know, but that's how the wise God of the Bible believes "justice" is served.
Now Christian priests, desperately trying to sell their screwed up religion to the masses, hide this truth and all they advertize is that God loves you
unconditionally. So, it really is no wonder that an average Christian thinks they can sin all they want because their sins are already taken care of, when the
fact is (according to the Bible) your sins are taken care of ONLY IF you acknowledge Jesus' sacrifice BY trying your best to lead a righteous life. Thinking that
you can sin all you want is to make a mockery of Jesus' sacrifice which is even worse than not acknowledging it at all.
In short: this weird, sick, twisted, crazy so-called love is NOT "unconditional" like an average Christian fool has been led to believe. And Jesus has labeled
many things taken today for granted as sins. In fact, according to Jesus, even wealth is highly discouraged. Matthew 19:23-24.
2- Jesus is God?
3- Like Father, like Son?
Was Jesus the spitting image of his Father? Let's see, shall we?
Jesus was sent only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. Everyone else compared to the ancient Israelites were dogs. (Matthew 15:21-28)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=47;
A woman begs him to heal her daughter who was possessed by a demon but he so arrogantly tells her that helping her is like taking bread from one's children and
feeding it to the dogs. But when the woman acknowledged her level of being no more than a dog compared to the superior Israelites, he agreed to help her. That was
a big change of plans. God of the Bible consistently cared for His chosen people only (Children of Israel). And here we see Jesus, spontaneously decides to break
his Father's old traditions and care for non-Israelites as well.
Jesus also seemed to be either confused or hypocritical about his Father's old methods. In Matthew 5:18-19, for example, Jesus asserts that we should NOT ignore
the OT. But who needs the OT, anyway? Jesus stepped all over it in his teachings. Not only did he abolish many of the old rules, he ridiculed them! Examples:
a- Unclean foods: In the OT God through Moses has defined what is clean to eat and what is unclean. For example, it was considered unclean to eat without
washing hands, then came Jesus and did three things: 1- He made these laws of cleanliness obsolete (that's why Christians eat pigs while Jews don't, for example).
Honestly, I see no problem here, so it would seem that God decided to make life a little easier for the Israelites. But if only this were the case! 2- In fact,
Jesus explains "why" these laws are obsolete. According to the words of Jesus (Mathew 15: 16-17) these laws do NOT make any sense. He explains that whoever thinks
there's such a thing as unclean food has NO understanding! He implicitly accuses his Father (God) to be of no understanding since it is his Father who came up
with the idea of unclean foods in the first place. If this blaring contradiction doesn't catch your attention then be prepared for this piece of sheer genius: 3-
Jesus gives a justification of why his Father's old ways lack understanding, it's because regardless of what you eat it'll all turn into feces in the end anyway,
so why bother?
b- In John 8:3-7, a group of Israelites caught an adulterous and wanted to stone her to death according to the Mosaic Law. Again, Jesus wanted to abolish
this law. So what did he do? Did he say that God decided to eliminate harsh punishments out of mercy for example? No. He said "let he who has no sin cast the
first stone". He's implicitly saying, all of you are sinners too so don't judge her. So what was he thinking? His Father wasn't actually aware of this fact when
He laid down these rules in the first place? Again he implicitly ridicules his Father's orders by giving lame justifications of why they are needless.
c- Breaking the Sabbath. Mark 2:23-28.
So Jesus and his disciples broke the Sabbath when they collected grains to eat them. His Father was very particular about the Sabbath. He even ordered Moses to
stone a man to death for picking sticks on the Sabbath! So the Pharisees objected to this and Jesus' response was? He defended himself by citing David and his
men's eating from the Temple's sacred bread which was an irrelevant incident. The priest agreed to give David and his men the bread because they have kept
themselves from women (thus they were ceremonially clean, See 1 Samuel 21:1-10). Besides, why would he hide behind David? David was a big time sinner, anyway. And to add insult to injury, he so hypocritically alters the words of his Father and claims that the Sabbath was made for man! What about Numbers 15:32-36 and Exodus 35:2?
It is no wonder that eventually the Israelites got fed up with Jesus ridiculing the laws of their Sky Daddy and wanted to kill him for his repeated disrespect of
the old laws (even though he was hypocritical enough not to reject these laws explicitly).
But one can't help but point out God's lack of help to Jesus as opposed to His constant support of Moses. Whenever the Israelites gave Moses a hard time, God
personally flew down to earth and gave them a severe beating until Moses intervened to calm down His rampant rage. See for example, this story of a few Israelite
men who challenged the authority of Moses and how his God came swiftly to his aid (Numbers 16).
The only good reason I can think of for God's ignoring Jesus this way, is that He wanted His son to get killed, either because Jesus hypocritically insulted His
Father's old ways or because He really craved Jesus' blood to finally satisfy His thirst.
The most significant difference between Jesus and his Father, however, is Jesus' good little heart. His crazy Father insisted that He wanted to spill someone's
precious blood in order to be able to forgive good obedient people for their sins. And Jesus, so selflessly, agreed to play the role of the lamb… Although poor
Jesus did plead with His vicious Father to find some other way, like good old mercy, to avoid this bizarre requirement, but his Daddy wouldn't accept anything
less than Jesus' blood! What a stark difference in personalities! Mark 14:36.
And in case some of you might wonder if God has always been this savage, then you need not but to read the first two thirds of the Bible. A blood maniac, He most
certainly is. And just to give a glimpse of God's evil nature, you can take a look at this little conversation between me and Winston here:
Bottom line: Jesus looked nothing like his grotesque Father. He was his Father's antagonist!
4- Hypocritical Christians.
The heart of Jesus' teachings is "The Sermon on the Mount" and the holy of holies of this sermon is "Turning the other Cheek". The basic tenet of Christianity is
absolute pacifism. Jesus rejects the basic human right of self-defense. If someone wants to walk all over you, you should not resist but in fact you should
encourage them to do so. The best example of this is the instructions given to Christian slaves. A slave not only shouldn't resist his slavery, but he shouldn't
try to run away either, for that won't be considered turning the other cheek! [Ephesians 6:5 & 1 Timothy 6:1-2 & Colossians 3:22-25]. I know this sounds beautiful
and all, but is it practical? Is it applicable? No wonder Christians have always ignored their beloved Jesus' most basis instructions throughout history and
reverted to using the OT where God of the Bible called upon His children to exterminate/enslave whole nations.
5- Thou Shall Not Pray!
I really find it quite amusing that devout Christians are so big on prayer. Haven't they ever read Mathew 6: 7-13? Jesus teaches his followers how to pray. FIRST
he claims that prayers should never be repetitive with many words like prayers of the "nations" (non-Israelites). But this contradicts the fact that in the OT the
"Israelites" had structured, repetitive prayers with many words. In fact some of these prayers were even sung (e.g. Psalms). SECOND he explains that God already
knows what it is you need hence the lack of need for all these too many words! HOWEVER, he immediately contradicts "himself" by asking his followers to say only
one single prayer over and over and over and over again: "Our Father in heavens, let your name be sanctified..." What just happened to God knows what's in your
heart and no repetitions are necessary? Of course God knows what is in my heart but prayer is a very basic form of worship and if you take away my words and
cancel repetitions then you are asking me not to pray, period! And when events get heated up and the hour of his capture approaches, Jesus of the Bible reverts to
the same exact form of prayer he denies his followers. See Mark 14: 32-42.
So relax Christians, there's no need for you to pray. Jesus taught you how to pray only one prayer. Do it before you go to bed to help you fall asleep fast (out
of boredom).
6- Thou Shall Not swear?!
The biggest lie Christians believe about their God is that He doesn't like foul language. But God of the Bible Himself never refrained from using the foulest
language ever. In Ezekiel 23 He describes the northern and southern nations of Israel as two filthy whores! And in Ezekiel 23: 19-21 He goes to great lengths to
describe the extent their whoredom. Another example is when He threatens the Israelites of their fate of eating human dung for bread and the special treatment He
gives to their prophet (Ezekiel) is eating cow dung instead. (Ezekiel 4:12-15). Of course, foul language abounds in the holy Bible, these verses I listed are but
a few.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=31;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=47;
So the point is: to swear is a divine Godly behavior, and there's no need to deprive your kids of using this type of language to creatively express themselves. If
anything, you should promote swearing contests and crown as the winner the kid whose profanity outweighs that of God of the Bible.
BINGO Jesus was just like his father, we get it straight from the Quran, Jesus gives life just like his father Allah.- Like Father, like Son?
Was Jesus the spitting image of his Father? Let's see, shall we?
"There goes the confused Muslim attacking his God Allah again and his Quran which supports bible."
"you keep Attacking Allah and his books just like a good confused Muslim."
What great love are you talking about Chief? That God is so savage that He can't fogive His good obedient people who love Him unless He spills someone's precious blood? What kind of love is that? And it seems that you imply that this blood requirement is justice because of Adam's sin! I don't see how this is justice! Adam's sin is Adam's sin, I have nothing to do with it, why do I have to be responsible for his sin? I know that's how God of the Bible defines justice, but it's seriousely flawed!
This simply means, you won't be saved except if you believe in Jesus and his message. Now, let me give you another famous Jesus line:
"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me."--John 17:20-21
Jesus is saying he is in God and God is in him and he prays that the desciples become in them (both Jesus and his Father). So does this mean that the disciples are also God?! This is just figure of speach. Don't read too much into it unless you're willing to make the claim that the desciples are God too. (Hmmmm... Is this why Catholics worship the Saints?!).
Actually Chief, like I said before in the Bible the title Father has nothing to do with helping us understand Him. When God of the Bible says He's someone's Father, He's simply honoring them. I listed many example before (Jacob, David, etc). And Jesus honored his followers and told them to call His Father, their Father.
Ok, first I'll ignore the part about the meaning of Allah's word "Kunn". Because my understanding of the Quran is completely irrelevant here. Now, it is evident in the Bible that Jesus had existed before he walked the earth, and it appears (according to the Bible) that indeed Jesus was God's first creation? But so what? He still was created by God and that doesn't make him God.
Ha! The burden of proof that he said he was God and he wanted people to worship him, lies upon you! Everywhere in the NT Jesus only asked people to worship God and never hinted that he's to be worshiped, and he himself prayed to God, why would he pray to God unless he was NOT God! Some common sense please!!!!!
First, the OT is two thirds of the Bible. Second, I used the OT only to put everything in perspective. (To be able to see the big picture).
I'm sorry but you're evading the point just like Jesus did. Remember that my objection is not that Jesus abolished the cleanliness code, but that he did it so hypocritically while insulting His Father in the process. He accused anyone thinking that there's such a thing as unclean food to lack understanding as if his Father was lacking when He created these rules in the first place!
It is men's rule you say? Then what do you make of this verse?
"If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel."--Deuteronomy 22:22
And do you think when God ordered the Israelites to observe His laws He wasn't already aware that everyone was a sinner and yet He wanted the people (although all sinners) to judge the sinner according to His law? My argument was if Jesus wanted to abolish this law by saying for example that God has ordered him to abolish it out of mercy, then there's no problem here. But when he so hypocritically abolishes the law by implying it is flawed, then he's ridiculing his Father!
If by the law you mean the savage weird unjust blood requirement, then indeed Jesus was the fulfillment of the law. He was the perfect lamb and his blood was the only thing that could satisfy God of the Bible's thirst.
Oh yeah? Why don't we read the verse in context:
"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you"--Matthew 5:38-42
"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you."--Luke 6:27-31
I can't believe this! How dare you criticize the Psalms?! It's part of the Bible, hence it's the words of your God! I mentioned the Psalms only to prove that Jesus was confused when he claimed that we shouldn't pray (with too many words) like the "nations" i.e. non-Israelites. Pslams are sung prayers given by Jesus' Father to the Israelites! Jesus prayer lesson contradicts the fact that Israelites prayed with too many words (anyway, in that lesson of his he even contradicted himself).
I never claimed that God of the Bible said you should use foul language like He did. All I said was that Christians shouldn't reproach their kids for using profanity when they express their anger because their God did it all the time, so it's a Godly behavior to use foul language. Don't be hypocritical and please let your kids emulate their God.
debunker wrote:Do NOT befriend INFIDELS!
Chief, in your last post you said "We are not to judge each other". In fact that's what's understood from Jesus' teachings. But I can't help but wonder why then in the New Testament we find verses condemning "the other". Examples:
2 Corinthians 6:14-15
Do not be yoked together with unbelievers (infidels). For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?
2 John 1:10-11
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.
Romans 1:28-32
Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
Don't you think all these verses are very judgmental and alienating of "the others"? Why all this hostility?
And how is it possible to reconcile the stark contradiction with Jesus' Sermon on the Mount (love your enemy). Given these verses, I believe that Jesus' instructions of loving the enemy is applicable only among the believers (Christians). In other words, since Jesus was speaking to his followers, then it would only make sense that Jesus was encouraging them to be extremely forgiving towards each other.
I believe verses like the ones I listed above are the reason why crusaders thought they were serving their God. Or is it because Jesus said many times not to ignore the OT (which constitutes two thirds of the Bible)?
Anyway, the bottom line is: Beware Christians! Don't get friendly with the infidels or you'll be sharing their wickedness!
debunker wrote:2- Jesus is God?
Never, not even once in the Bible did Jesus claim to be God. He never even hinted that he should be worshiped.
-Adam is a son of God (Luke 3:38)
-In Psalm 2:7 God declares David to be His begotten son (although He later discovered that He made a BIG mistake, for David turned out to be one very naughty boy!).
In Exodus 4:22, God of the Bible declares that Jacob (Israel) is His first born son!
Some Christians also desperately argue that people worshiped Jesus and he didn't forbid them which somehow implies that he wanted them to worship him. And their evidence is? Mistranslated verses in the Bible
But I have to disagree about David being a begotten son.
God is talking about Israel as a nation here, who as a people, are in the unique position of being God's first choice. He's not talking about a person, least of all Jacob. Where do you get the idea of Jacob?
The translation here should read obseisance, which has nothing to do with worship.
Chief, my separating Jesus from His Father has NOTHING to do with me wanting things to seem logical. In fact, many things in the Bible do not make any sense to me. All what I'm doing is that I'm saying the NT never said Jesus was God, so there's absolutely no reason to make him God.
And yes, if my grandfather was a robber then I will live with the UNJUST stigma. But how can your "just" God blame me for my father's sins? But anyway, I will "pretend" that this is justice. Now, I will also "pretend" that Jesus is God, but then doesn't this make God a big time imbecile? Let's think about it a little, shall we?
So God thinks since Adam sinned, it is justice for all humanity to bear his sin. And to clear the sin, it is justice to make someone else pay with his blood. But since no one can give a worthy sacrifice, God kills Himself as a sacrifice to Himself to serve justice demanded by Himself!!!! My head is spinning so fast I'm about to puke!
Why believe in such a nauseating joke? The truth (according to the Bible) is: God killed Jesus as a sacrifice for a sin committed by someone else! Of course, since there's neither love nor justice in this, Christians desperately need to believe that God = Jesus to take the viciousness out of God and replace it with love, when the fact is all they're doing is replacing monstrosity and unjustice with supreme idiocy.
The verse: "For God so loved the world..." talks about God "loving" the world by KILLING His "beloved" Jesus. A contradiction in itself. Why can't He love the world by simply forgiving those who love Him and try their best to obey Him, out of mercy, for example? What's so wrong about mercy? The typical Christian answer is: because that wouldn't be justice! What Justice are you talking about? That because Adam sinned, I automatically become responsible for his sin and to top it off someone else must pay with his blood! I feel sick again, I have to throw up!
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