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Monday, May 5, 2008
Streaming silly
I love atmosphere at games, but I hate anything being thrown on to the field. TFC fans aren't being original in this - the Legion 1908 of Chivas USA has a streamer ritual towards the goal near the end of every home match.
Thing is, I've seen Brad Guzan fight his way through streamers when trying to catch a cross - and he didn't look happy about the "support" from the fans.
I've watched TFC matches where the team needed only a goal to win or draw late in the game and fans were still throwing streamers to the opposition corner kicker, eating up clock time that their squad could presumably use to score.
I hate, hate, anything outside the field of play physically affecting the game. The emotional impact of fan support doesn't need to be translated into stuff flying out from the stands. The streamer shower almost always delays the match. What's a few seconds lost in return for atmosphere?, some might ask, but I really fail to see the point. Plus, I think it sets a bad precedent to throw anything on to the field - streamers today, something heavier and more painful in the future, perhaps. Cheer, jeer, sing, but don't detract from the game. It's a turn-off to me to watch players pick streamers off from the corner arc. I want to see soccer being played.
Granted, some people throw confetti after goals - I'm ok with that because the action stops for a bit after goals anyway, since a team celebrates scoring.
I remember asking Kevin Hartman about streamers and he pointed out that he didn't mind confetti, but streamers often didn't unroll and just remained on the field. His worry was that a defender, who often backs up while watching an attacker instead of where one is stepping, could turn an ankle or knee by stepping on the lumpy streamer roll. Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it's not a valid concern.
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You mean like flares from Legion in the derby last year or bottles from the Legion at the Chicago game last season?
- May 5, 2008 at 8:47 AM
- A.C. said...
Random bottles have been thrown from different fans and/or groups before. In MLS, TFC and the Legion are the only ones I know of who do a planned streamer shower.
- May 5, 2008 at 8:54 AM
Streamers are fine, but I do agree that interfering with the on-field play sets a bad precedent. The league hasn't said anything about it yet, but all that needs to happen is for a player to trip and twist or break a body part before the MLS puts a stop to it.
I think at this point the MLS might be a bit afraid to stop anything TFC does because the atmosphere and attendance has been great. Plus no players have been vocal about their dislike of the streamers. Reyna's comments after the game seem to support the use of them.
- May 5, 2008 at 9:18 AM
- A.C. said...
With the reputation the sport has in some places, the last thing soccer players want to do is be accused of being wimpy or afraid of anything. Reyna is already criticized for being delicate; he probably doesn't want to be portrayed as a complainer.
- May 5, 2008 at 9:37 AM
Andrea, I totally totally agree with everything you said about the streamers. It looks bush league, has the potential to be dangerous & needs to be nipped in the bud.
- May 5, 2008 at 10:01 AM
- CACuzcatlan said...
Houston throws a lot of streamers too.
- May 5, 2008 at 10:17 AM
- Mister Zero said...
Streamers dangerous? Pleasssse. Those nuts throwing bottles should be policed, but streamers are fine. Most dangerous risk to the player's health is that crap underneath their feet in Utah, NY, NE, Toronto and upcoming in Seattle. Maybe we should compare the amount of players injured by streamers versus the number of players injured by artifical turf from 1996 until now. ...Lol.
- May 5, 2008 at 11:01 AM
- Unknown said...
I completely agree and would only add that the other thing that i hate about it is that it looks so minor league. No one would ever get away with throwing something on the field in any other professional sport in the U.S. They'd be escorted out of the park. It makes MLS look amateur.
- May 5, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Please don't compare this to other sports. You are the kind that probably wants TV time-outs in the middle of the game as well. And if someone rolls an ankle of a streamer, they should not be on the pitch...those would be some weak ankles...
- May 5, 2008 at 12:24 PM
"I completely agree and would only add that the other thing that i hate about it is that it looks so minor league."
I have to agree with this. I remember last year, a friend of mine who is a very casual soccer fan (watches only the World Cup, occasional Champion's League games) watched MLS for the very first time in years and it so happened to the LA vs. TFC game at BMO. He was so turned off by the streamers that he asked me the next day if that's how all MLS games are now. When I told him it wasn't, he seemed a bit relieved but then commented on how if that became the norm in the MLS he would never watch a game again cause it looks bush league.
- May 5, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I completely agree! I was present at a Galaxy-Chivas game (the only MLS game in which John O'Brien made an appearance) during which Chivas fans through 30-40 crepe streamers over the crossbar and around Hartman while Chivas was attacking. Hartman was moving laterally through this junk that formed a tent extending out into the 6 yd box. The ball was taken to the goal line and cut back to Razov who scored while Hartman was scuffing through all the junk and sweeping it out of his line of sight. I am not a Galaxy fan, but they deserved a break on that one. Actually, shame on the ref for not stopping the game or calling the goal back.
- May 5, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Streamers are not needed in MLS, I believe it makes the league look very amateurish. The league has grown a great deal and is gaining some respect and this just sets it back in my opinion. Of course TFC fans are the worst and that game between the LAG and them last season was embarrassing. Next item on the table, decent ref's!!!
- May 5, 2008 at 3:38 PM
- Mister Zero said...
Streamers "bush league"?? You mean like when River and Boca play? (Btw, how anybody can rip Toronto fans is truly unbelievable...)
- May 5, 2008 at 3:56 PM
- A.C. said...
Boca and River fans have been known to be physically violent with each other, too. There's a reason why there are fences around the field of play in those stadiums. Do you want that in MLS?
Just because TFC fans are in general great doesn't make everything they do something good.
- May 5, 2008 at 4:40 PM
- Mister Zero said...
AC, has there been anyone injured in Toronto because of streamers? Is security not on top of this issue in Toronto or other MLS stadiums? Have you seen the danger of streamers first hand in Toronto? Why is Toronto so guilty all of a sudden? The rules prohibit bottles from being thrown in all MLS stadiums just like the other leagues, and when bottles are thrown, people are arrested and kicked out. The law should be followed and enforced with no exceptions. Do you not think stadium security has strong enough rules? HDC has admitted having some challenges in this area and has been working on fixing them, successfully, from what I've read. I have not heard similar tales out of Toronto. At this point, I don't see a reason for additional rules for Toronto or the rest of the league. I do see a need for more stringent security at HDC and more knowledge about soccer fans for security at all stadiums. I also don't sense an overwhelming fear of streamers coming from the players - in fact most relate the opposite opinion and like the partisan crowd. Rules are there to be followed, and security needs to be allowed to do their job. I guess I don't understand what you are arguing - a ban of all streamers and confetti? Just streamers? What would you have done when Toronto fans launched the seat cushions? Kicked out the whole stadium?
- May 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM
It's astonishing to me that there are people who think it's OK to throw some things onto the field merely because they are less dangerous to the players than other things that might be thrown at them.
There is no justification for any fan ever to interfere with play. And to interfere with an opponent's play is precisely the reason why fans throw streamers.
Anyone throwing a streamer should be ejected by stadium security personnel. Throwing a bottle (or anything else more substantial than a streamer) is plainly an assault and should be treated by the police as such. And if the fans participating in such behavior are too numerous to make ejection or arrest a meaningful solution, rather than risk injury to the players, the referee should either abandon the game or forfeit the game (if the home team has plainly abdicated its crowd-control responsibilities).
- May 5, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Yeah, I love that everybody at TFC games is so enthusiastic, so I hate to harsh on the buzz. But I agree with AC. Throwing streamers interferes with the game physically and slows the game down needlessly, and the unrolled streamers create at least a potential hazard.
My sense is that the league doesn't want to alienate TFC fans, so I think the best thing to do would be to have the club--maybe even the players--ask the fans to stop. MLS can make it official policy after that.
- May 5, 2008 at 6:42 PM
- A.C. said...
I thought the seat cushion incident was bad, and the fact that MLS management didn't come down harder on the fans for that probably set the current precedent. Fire players specifically mentioned that those cushions hurt, too.
Fans have been banned from stadiums and their teams have played in front of empty stands because of racial insults, which technically don't harm players physically.
Do you want Toya to step on a streamer coil and wrench his knee in a fall before you'll even recognize the potential danger? Yes, I've seen stadium security at TFC clear out the unrolled streamers, but if the run of play happens in that corner immediately after, there's no time to clear.
Why is is such a big deal to you or any TFC fan to fight for this aspect, either? Are they such weak supporters that eliminating this one behavior would ruin the fan experience for them and drive them from the game? They don't actually come to watch the match - they come to throw streamers? The other stuff is cool - keep doing that, but keep junk that could hurt players off the field. I guess I'm a purist, but I consider the pitch a little sacred and think it should be treated as such.
- May 5, 2008 at 7:13 PM
- A.C. said...
I meant Toja, not Toya.
- May 5, 2008 at 7:15 PM
- Mister Zero said...
AC, no players have gotten hurt from streamers. Not one. If I'm wrong on this, please correct me. Even if you banned streamers for being unsafe (despite evidence to the contrary), a fan could still throw his plastic beer bottle and still hit a player. A streamer rule isn't going to change that. So what is the point of a streamer ban if it would have no effect on the potential danger you refer to?
Now if you don't like streamers because they delay the game, well, yes they do. Ban them for that reason.
- May 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM
I support the players. If the players are having a problem with this then I don't have a problem with it. But slippy slope argumentes are a low blow here. Unitl people start doing worst fearing more dangerous objects is just unfair. You are just against because you don't like and are trying to use whatever you can find to justify it being banned. Trying to stop low risk of injury streamers is just a silly way to confirm to the other American sports. Sit down, be quiet, and an enjoy a beer with family. I don't care if people see it as "bush league" we shouldn't live our lifes by what other think.
- May 5, 2008 at 7:43 PM
- A.C. said...
FC, I'd ban them for both reasons. I think it's silly to say that we have to wait for an actual injury when the potential is clearly there. And, like my Hartman example, some players have in fact pointed that out.
- May 5, 2008 at 8:52 PM
- A.C. said...
I also think it's a strange argument - "We shouldn't ban streamers due to potential injury because other sports will think we're wimps." combined with "We don't care what other sports do, and that they respect the run of their sport's play more than we do."
- May 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM
The we shouldn't ban them b/c others will think we are whimps is not my argument at all. Its just such a minor issue that few players have complained about. Your complaint is actually more about your enjoyment of the game not about player safety thats just your justification. Next poeple will complain about player celebrations being butch league or slowing the game. Many people have a problem with that sort of thing in the NFL and NBA. But players enjoy it and so do many fans. Lets ban things that are real problems not because of ones preferences. Throwong streamers on corner kicks and goals are not really stopping the run of play since both are basicly stoppegies in the first place.
I would much rather see MLS ban games in 96 plus weather. As I'm much more afraid of an MLS dieing from heat exhausation then someone tripping on some loose flimsy paper.
- May 5, 2008 at 9:15 PM
- Mister Zero said...
The basic argument that streamers injure players is not backed up by any evidence in the past 13 years of MLS play, hundreds of games, and thousands of players in dozens of stadiums in many very hostile environments. Show me the evidence where a streamer from a fan injured a single player and then I can reconsider the argument here. But without any evidence of a single case of injury, there isn't much of a case for a league wide banning streamers for being unsafe.
You mention the run of play being interupted. Did that hamper your enjoyment of the TFC-NY game? I would argue that most fans enjoyed watching the energy of the fans and did not notice any few seconds of delay.
I think much of this is just sour grapes regarding Toronto and their homefield advantage.
If you want to complain about a league wide health and safety issue, take one look at artificial turf. Those injuries are quantifiable and real.
- May 5, 2008 at 9:18 PM
- Jim said...
At least it is not Boca/River as mentioned before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQjeJ2oe30k
However the best way to stop it, is by delaying the game. I saw Claudio Reyna take his sweet old time setting up a corner. I guess the TFC fans would rather watch a garbage man pick up their garbage than watch their team on the field (not suggesting that Claudio is a garbage man). Everyone should just take their time cleaning up every last streamer. What can MLS officials do about it anyway? Is it a delay of game penalty or could you get away with it?
- May 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM
"You mention the run of play being interupted. Did that hamper your enjoyment of the TFC-NY game? I would argue that most fans enjoyed watching the energy of the fans and did not notice any few seconds of delay." To be honest, it did bother me a bit. Not so much as to call for an all out ban of streamers, but it was annoying. Once the mess was cleaned up, a second wave of streamers came down. Seriously, is that necessary? I love the streamers being thrown in celebration of a goal, but to distract the players in the run of play is horrible. I want to say bush league, but other "more prominent" leagues around the world do it, so I don't see that argument.
What MLS should do is give the referees the authority to stop play if a mass amount of streamers are being tossed during the run of play. In Hartman's case, the ref should have stopped the game DURING Chivas' attack to clear the streamers. The fans would have bitched and moaned, but it's their fault. If the refs have to continuously have to stop the game to clean up a mess, the fans will regulate themselves or the team would intervene if it ruined the momentum or disallowed a goal or two. If it's a corner kick for an opposing team, such as Claudio Reyna in Toronto, the ref should stop the game, and add time on the clock after the 90. There is no need for the league to call for an all out ban on streamers, that would be bush league. Besides, its not like it happens at every game in every city.
As for the slippery slope argument of "possible injuries" its really absurd. I agree with FC Uptown on this one, there is no evidence of this being career threatening anywhere in the world, in any sport. And seriously, if this is MLS's biggest concern, they have not been paying attention to the refs and the field turf games. Streamers are (or should be) lowest on the totem pole of issues.
- May 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM
- A.C. said...
I didn't like the streamers last year, and said so, when TFC had little home field advantage to speak of.
I've very clearly said that I watch soccer to see soccer, not to see party paper hold up a game.
I have not had a single person who watched TFC matches with me tell me they were impressed with the streamers on corners. In fact, many have told me the opposite, though they complimented chants and songs.
At least one player with River/Boca experience doesn't care for streamers - asking his own fans to stop - From Bernardo Fallas' blog on the Crew/Dynamo game:
"Barros-Schelotto pleads with the Crew fans to stop the streamer madness on a Dynamo corner kick. Brad Davis just took the ball and walked away from the area. Crew fans seemed to have been inspired by their Toronto friends."
- May 5, 2008 at 11:13 PM
- A.C. said...
It's fine with me if others ignore potential injury possibilities. I have to admit that I didn't think about that aspect of it until Hartman pointed that out to me. Once he did, it made sense.
A lot of things that seem like harmless fun can turn out differently.
- May 5, 2008 at 11:18 PM
- CACuzcatlan said...
I'm against streamers because it interferes with the game. I guess that's OK on corner kicks according to you guys. But I like to see the pitch clear of all foreign objects. Remember what happened with Man City and the balloon? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-4AKL_YGAw
And when Guzan or Hartman are getting streamers thrown on them during the run of play it changes the outcome. Even if the other team doesn't score, it changes how the keepers react to the situation. I say ban all streamers from the field. If you want to have them in the stands, that's fine, but not on the field.
- May 5, 2008 at 11:56 PM
FC Uptown: you're arguments are ridiculous. Did you have to stab yourself in the chest before you stopped running with scissors? C'mon already.
Also, the NY vs. TFC match sucked. I mean it really sucked. The streamers only added to the further suckage. It causes a big lull in the game and doesn't nothing to the other team as they will just sit there and not take the corner until the crap is cleared and I think we both know that the full amount of stoppage time won't be added. With TFC often playing from behind it makes little sense.
Also, mark my words, as soon as these games start meaning more, some one will go down with a real or phantom injury from something wrapped up in the streamer roll.
One final note, those who keep pointing out Boca laying out streamers, show me one video during the run of play of them tossing those streamers on the field. Tossing streamers in pre-game, before the second half and after the game are great. Holding up the game so you can put on your color guard routine just sucks.
- May 6, 2008 at 2:24 AM
- A.C. said...
Oh, yeah, papa bear reminded me of an important distinction. I do love streamers to decorate the stands. I've lived in Argentina before, and though a streamer would sometimes break off and drift across the field, that wasn't the intention - they certainly weren't tossed right at players at specific times, either.
- May 6, 2008 at 4:10 AM
You are comparing running with scissors and streamers. That is really messed up. I am a purist as well. I don't see anything wrong with it. There are greater issues (turf field, playing on freaking American Football Fields, some attendance issues for certain teams, etc). The streamers are not hurting anyone and it adds to the atmosphere of the game. I know many people that like it (who are casual fans)...
- May 6, 2008 at 5:45 AM
- A.C. said...
Evidently, a lot of us will have to agree to disagree on this issue.
- May 6, 2008 at 5:57 AM
The argument that it's ok to throw streamers during corners is fine because the game is stopped anyway is a very poor one. Corners are a vital part of the game, and lead to scoring opportunities, by physically interfering with the set piece play the fans are creating an unfair advantage for their team. Could you imagine if fans started throwing in streamers at NBA players during in-bound passes? The game is stopped at that point as well, so should it be ok? Do you think the players and the league would be ok with that?
- May 6, 2008 at 10:37 AM
- A.C. said...
Honestly, though, if a team is looking to steal a road point in a tied game, and is taking a nice long time with a corner kick (conveniently using the streamers as an excuse), I'm not sure it's such an advantage for the home team. Jason Kreis was grousing to the media recently about not being granted the full 70 seconds left in stoppage time to go for the winning goal.
TFC fans cost their team more than that amount of time by holding up play on corner kicks. In those cases, I'm not sure their actions benefit their squad at all.
- May 6, 2008 at 3:09 PM
bottom line, nothing should ever be allowed to be thrown on the field. anyone that thinks things should be allowed to be thown is kidding themselves that someone cant get hurt. i realize the chance is low, but how would you feel if your star player sustained an eye injury and missed the season? and to say that can't happen, yes it can. the chance is low, but it can happen. additionally, how many times have you seen your teams goalie interfered with by la legion timeing their throws to interfere with the stopping of a shot? that is just wrong period.
- May 6, 2008 at 8:08 PM
I have to agree with the majority. No matter what the sport you should not be allowed to throw objects on the field while play is in session. If you want to throw streamers after a goal then so be it. Even as a Galaxy fan I'm not crazy about how they shoot off confetti after goals because the confetti always gets on the field.
I watch the BPL/EPL (whatever you want to call it) and you NEVER see streamers thrown on the field.
BTW, throwing streamers at your own goalkeeper has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Then again this is the same group that picks fights with their own fans just because they're part of a different supporters group. But that's another topic for another day. ;-)
- May 6, 2008 at 8:37 PM
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Carnage is the name given to a powerful set of gauntlets that contain a demon lord.
Carnage is a set of two black adamantine gauntlets adorned with three large rubies each. The rubies seem to be a very dull red, however. Red arcane runes are etched in a spiral on the palms. Each finger comes to a barbed, jagged point making the gauntlets look remarkably like claws.
|Knowledge: The Planes DC
|Lore about Carnage
|Carnage is a set of powerful magic gauntlets that have a powerful demon lord bound to them.
|It is said that Carnage is cursed to send those who use it into a deadly frenzy, murdering every nearby creature.
|Carnage is greedy and does not like to allow lesser weapons to steal its kills.
|Each ruby is powered by the life force of the creature it kills.
|Carnage can be overcome by those with a stronger will than the demon lord.
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Carnage grants the following benefits to any creature that wears it:
- 2 natural claw attacks that deal 2d6 damage at medium size and have a 19-20/x3 critical.
- If both claw attacks hit a single creature, rend damage is dealt (4d6 + 1 1/2 Strength Modifier).
- Whenever a creature is knocked unconscious by a claw attack, they must make a fortitude save DC 10 + 1/2 the HD of Carnage's wearer + the Strength modifier of Carnage's wearer or take 1 damage per HD of Carnage's wearer.
- Whenever a living creature is killed by a character wearing Carnage, one of the 6 rubies glows bright red. The rubies stop glowing bright red if the creature wearing Carnage does not kill any creatures for 1 minute. The creature also has its soul trapped inside Carnage during this time and cannot be resurrected until the rubies fade.
- Carnage grants a +2 enhancement bonus to Strength for each glowing ruby.
Carnage also imposes the following restrictions on a character, which they can ignore for 1 minute by making a Will save DC 35:
- The character cannot wield a manufactured weapon
- The character cannot attack with a manufactured weapon
- The character cannot attack with unarmed strikes
- Whenever the character kills a creature, it must make a Will save DC 28 + 2 per glowing ruby or else go on a rampage for 1 minute trying to kill the nearest creature with claw attacks or taking the best actions available to find a creature to kill (bursting down doors, running after allies, or whatever else can be done to satisfy the murderous rage).
The character wearing Carnage can only attempt to avoid its restrictions once per minute, but making the saving throw is a free action.
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13:31:03 drmeister Hi
13:31:18 drmeister I'm down in the lobby trying to figure out bind-va-list
13:31:59 drmeister Wow, the tables are wobbly down here
13:32:46 drmeister You'd think people would have figured wobbly tables out.
13:39:40 Bike you mean on the first floor? those are used by like, hundreds of people every day
13:40:02 drmeister Sure - but they have one job.
13:42:44 Bike we should just make tables out of huge, specially shaped, uncut crystals
13:59:13 Shinmera Hire the material scientists to go wild designing table matter
14:40:42 Bike i got the "label emitted multiple times" thing again but with _shutdown this time.
14:58:57 Bike and trace/bpt trap compiling, but it's reproducible, that's new and exciting
14:59:58 drmeister Ok - I'll have to take a look at "label emitted multiple times" today.
15:00:02 drmeister You say it's reproducible?
15:00:14 Bike no, this other thing is reproducible
15:00:18 Bike the shutdown one disappeared
15:00:46 drmeister What is the "trace/bpt" thing?
15:00:48 Bike you should keep doing what you're doing, i'll tell you if i get something that can be coherently examined
15:00:59 drmeister That is very much appreciated
15:01:02 Bike I try to compile something and clasp dies with uh
15:01:12 Bike "Process inferior-lisp trace/BPT trap: 5" is what's in *inferior-lisp*
15:03:43 Bike what was the C function that prints a lisp backtrace?
15:04:12 drmeister c_btcl
15:04:15 drmeister c_btcl()
15:04:30 drmeister The one that prints a complete backtrace is c_bt()
15:05:30 Bike it... oh, i'm on the old branch so i don't have it, damn
15:05:50 Bike think i know what the problem is
15:06:06 Bike now just need to see why a regular error condition turns into a crash
15:07:39 Bike still this findPackage thing.
15:08:53 Bike any chance i can get lisp arguments from lldb? or does all the underlying C++ functions having "<unavailable>" mean they're really gone
15:42:35 drmeister Holy freeholies! - I got bind-va-list to work
15:43:06 drmeister When you see <unavailable> then they are gone.
15:43:31 drmeister But if you attach __attribute__((optnone)) to the function - then they will be there for you.
15:43:57 drmeister You can also try crawling up and down the stack - sometimes I get lucky and I find the value available somewhere.
15:44:24 beach I think the CST-to-AST system is mostly working.
15:44:55 drmeister Or if you are truly brave 'register read' will dump the registers - if they end in 'f' or not '0' and they look like a pointer - then you may have a tagged pointer that you can examine.
15:45:23 beach You can start testing it by replacing Generate-AST by CST-to-AST provided you call cst:cst-from-expression before feeding a form to CST-to-AST.
15:45:40 beach That way, you don't need a special reader.
15:45:47 drmeister beach: Wonderful! We were talking about modifying our reader to generate CST's today.
15:45:55 beach Oh, OK.
15:46:12 drmeister But - what you say is good for the short/medium term.
15:46:49 drmeister I did this: (defun foo (core:&va-rest r) (ext:bind-va-list (x y) r (list x y)))
15:47:00 drmeister (foo 1 2) -> (1 2)
15:48:07 beach How do you plan to modify the reader? I mean, a reader macro can do some arbitrary shuffling of its recursive read result. Or do you plan to "cheat" by having your reader macros do something other than "standard"? If so, what happens if there is a custom reader macro that does not know about CSTs?
15:48:36 drmeister Uh huh - as usual - I'm not aware of all the issues.
15:49:17 drmeister Clasp's reader has kept track of source information from day 1 - we just don't use it. I haven't thought about reader macro issues.
15:49:36 beach So how does it do it?
15:51:15 Bike i think it keeps a hash table from read objects to a source position?
15:51:18 beach Suppose your input is (say) [(a) (b) (c)], and the result of invoking the reader is ((c) (c b) (c b a)), how do you identify the origins of all those expressions.
15:51:29 drmeister Streams keep track of the file offset, line number and column. It used to bundle this info up in a C++ class that is exposed to Common Lisp called a core:source-pos-info object.
15:51:47 drmeister It used to associate these objects with cons cells in a weak-key hash table.
15:52:13 beach So you can only do unique lists. Not atoms?
15:52:53 drmeister Right - it didn't do anything with atoms. But in the reader, where the atoms are generated - the source information is available. We can generate CST nodes that associate the atoms with their source info.
15:53:17 beach What if you have (#1=(a) (b) #1#), what is the origin of the expression marked as #1#?
15:53:28 drmeister When you say [(a) (b) (c)] you are talking about a reader macro for #\[ - correct?
15:53:35 beach Yes.
15:53:42 beach That you have no idea what it is doing.
15:54:54 beach The problem with symbols is that they are not unique. What source location do you associate with the different "A"s in (a b a c a d a)?
15:55:20 drmeister I don't have an answer at this point. What I was doing is when I needed source info - I would walk the tree looking for anything that had an association in the source tracking weak key hash table and using that.
15:55:29 drmeister That produced some bizarre results at times.
15:55:43 drmeister If it failed - it would fail gracefully and say there was no source information.
15:56:08 beach Anyway, if you have your hash table, you can do a half-decent job converting an expression to a CST. You just won't get information about symbols.
15:56:26 beach And you won't handle #= and ## very well perhaps.
15:56:29 drmeister For (a b a c a d a) each symbol is at a different character offset. What would the CST nodes look like?
15:57:16 drmeister A CST node for a symbol stores what? Just the symbol and an implementation dependent source-location object - right?
15:57:28 beach It would be a sequence of CONS-CSTs terminated by an ATOM-CST. Each FIRST slot of the CONS-CSTs would be an ATOM-CST containing the symbol.
15:57:44 beach Correct.
15:58:05 drmeister And an ATOM-CST contains the atom and an implementation dependent source position object.
15:58:13 beach Correct.
15:58:27 drmeister Right - so I would generate:
15:58:36 drmeister For (a a) for instance
15:59:46 drmeister (CST-CONS (CST-ATOM 'a (source-position 1)) (CST-CONS (CST-ATOM 'a (source-position 3)) NIL?))
16:00:18 beach Great! And how do you distinguish between the two positions for the A?
16:00:20 drmeister I'm not sure about the NIL? - you said a list terminates with an ATOM-CST? What is that for?
16:00:28 beach It's for NIL.
16:00:33 drmeister Ok - got it.
16:00:52 drmeister Uh - I don't understand the question "Great! And how do you distinguish between the two positions for the A? "
16:01:04 beach If you use a hash table, then the second A will delete the source position of the first, no?
16:01:06 drmeister One has (source-position 1) and the other (source-position 3)
16:01:16 drmeister Oh - I won't use the hash-table.
16:01:22 drmeister I'll generate CST nodes
16:01:34 beach In the reader macro for (?
16:01:53 beach That was my initial question. Do you plan to modify your standard reader macros to generate CSTs?
16:01:55 drmeister I'm not letting you do all this work and then not implement the best reader that I can to take advantage of it. :-)
16:02:15 drmeister So - yes, the standard reader macros will generate CSTs
16:02:25 Bike couldn't you have a tracking-reader that calls the normal compiler macros and then wraps the results?
16:02:36 beach So if I install a custom reader macro, what will happen?
16:02:55 drmeister That is a good question.
16:03:10 beach Bike: Do you mean reader macros?
16:03:40 beach Bike: The problem is that you don't necessarily know what a reader macro does.
16:04:02 Bike No, I mean have a special READ function that makes CSTs with the results of reader macros.
16:04:04 drmeister I think it will have to handle it somehow and probably lose source tracking for custom reader macros.
16:04:38 drmeister What would be the best thing to do?
16:04:39 beach Bike: Yes, I understand, but how do you identify the result of the reader macro with the source locations?
16:04:54 Bike So (type-of (read-from-string "(a)")) => CONS like usual, but then (tracking-read-from-string "(a)") is like (make-cst '(a) the-source-location)
16:05:20 Bike or... i guess the reader macro is going to call read recursively, not tracking-read
16:05:36 beach Bike: So what if you have the input [a] and the reader macro returns (((((((((((((((((((((a)))))))))))))))))))))?
16:05:59 Bike then you get one cst, i guess, and none for the inners
16:06:26 beach So you will incorrectly associate The position of the nested list with the symbol A?
16:06:45 Bike you could have a *read-tracking* variable, and have READ return CSTs when it's T... but then a reader macro might want to manipulate the result of read somehow
16:07:04 Bike A doesn't have a position
16:07:05 beach Yes, the reader macro can do some arbitrary shuffling.
16:12:04 beach I myself plan to do something similar to what I do with the "intelligent macro expander", i.e. I start from a "parse result" (that has all the results from recursive reads in the order that they were read, including source information) and a resulting expression. Then I try to identify sub-expressions with the children in the parse result, starting with lists. This will basically do the same as a hash table would. Then, I process
16:12:04 beach atoms in a similar way. Then, if there are remaining sub-expressions with no corresponding parse-result child, I try to find it deeper in the descendants.
16:12:57 beach I have already modified the SICL reader so that it can be customized to return parse results in addition to expressions.
16:13:20 drmeister That sounds a lot like what I was trying to do from the start. Only now the weak key hash table only has to deal with what is going on in one reader macro.
16:13:27 beach I do not plan to modify the standard reader macros. The advantage is that I can handle some custom reader macros as well.
16:13:55 drmeister Not even the reader macro for #\( ?
16:14:00 beach Correct.
16:14:32 drmeister Hmm
16:15:05 beach I don't have to. It calls READ recursively.
16:15:22 beach Though the standard doesn't require that, and the SBCL reader doesn't.
16:18:12 beach The simple, most common, case for this parse-result processor will of course be that there are as many sub-expressions as parse-result children, each child has a sub-expression in it, and the order is preserved.
17:24:21 drmeister I'll think on this.
17:31:36 shiho drmeister, I got the error... "chem::EnergyNonbond_O::constructExcludedAtomListFromAtomTable(gctools::smart_ptr<chem::AtomTable_O>, gctools::smart_ptr<chem::ForceField_O>, bool)", referenced from:
17:31:47 shiho chem::EnergyFunction_O::generateNonbondEnergyFunctionTables(bool, gctools::smart_ptr<chem::Matter_O>, gctools::smart_ptr<chem::ForceField_O>, gctools::smart_ptr<core::T_O>, bool) in 252.thinlto.o
17:32:02 shiho ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64 clang-5.0: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
17:32:24 shiho Can I fix it?
17:33:04 drmeister That happens if the declaration in the header file doesn't have a matching function definition in the .cc file
17:33:32 drmeister If there Is there a constructExcludedAtomListFromAtomTable in the energyNonbond.cc file?
17:33:32 shiho I'll check
17:33:57 drmeister Does it have the same types as the declaration in the header file.
17:35:56 shiho there isn't...
18:37:48 Bike beach: cst-to-ast refers to a cst:parse-macro that i can't find. is that to-do? does it mean the cleavir-code-utilities:parse-macro is going to be obsoleted? i ask because i was about to file an issue about it
18:40:37 beach It exists. Let me check...
18:43:04 beach In the system concrete-syntax-tree-destructuring.
18:43:40 beach Yes, it will be obsolete. But I'll keep it for a while, so file the issue anyway.
18:43:41 Bike what directory?
18:44:14 Bike i was just going to note that the conditions are thin, rather than an actual error or anything, so i'll probably leave it
18:44:56 beach Concrete-Syntax-Tree/Destructuring
18:45:46 beach Or, rather, the directory Destructuring in the Concrete-Syntax-Tree repository.
18:45:59 Bike oh it's not in SICL, i see
18:46:14 beach No, Concrete-Syntax-Tree is a separate repository.
18:46:25 Bike gotcha
20:46:18 drmeister The error message from bind-va-list is a little "off" - it reports the wrong number of arguments for the function that contains the bind-va-list. I'm not sure what it should report.
20:46:55 Bike you mean like, if you have (bind-va-list (a b c) #<vaslist with two items> ...)?
20:46:56 drmeister All of the error messages should probably refer to the bind-va-list
20:47:02 drmeister Right
20:47:17 drmeister https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nTp4DpgQ/
20:47:35 drmeister Too many arguments for FOO
20:47:49 drmeister (defun foo (core:&va-rest r) (ext:bind-va-list (x &optional (y :testing)) r (list x y)))
20:48:05 Bike well, first off since we're using this for methods that will actually be basically correct
20:48:32 drmeister Hmm - good point
20:48:54 drmeister On another note - I copy the va_list and #remaining args now.
20:50:54 Bike but in general we'd probably want a message like "Too many/few arguments for lambda list [lambda list]: [human readable vaslist]"
20:52:05 drmeister When you wrote the bind-va-list special operator for cclasp - what was left? The translate-simple-instruction for bind-va-list-instruction?
20:52:10 Bike in other news, i compile-file'd something in a first class global environment
20:52:20 drmeister Woo hoo!
20:52:21 Bike i can't load it, so perhaps the utility is questionable :p
20:52:45 drmeister Do you know what to do to load it?
20:52:55 drmeister What you have to do to get it to load?
20:53:38 Bike i have to figure out how clasp loads a fasl, and do that with perhaps a little more machinery
20:54:03 Bike actually maybe it's trivial, let me see
20:54:06 drmeister They are .so or .dylib files so dlopen
20:54:45 drmeister When you wrote the bind-va-list special operator for cclasp - what was left? The translate-simple-instruction for bind-va-list-instruction?
20:54:58 Bike yep
20:56:02 drmeister What did you do with lambda-list initializers and whatnot?
20:56:21 drmeister I'm trying to change gears and figure out how to write that instruction translator
20:56:38 drmeister I'm experiencing compiler whiplash
20:56:44 Bike give me a moment..
20:57:22 drmeister I guess I need to know the inputs and outputs
20:57:28 Bike the instruction has the lambda list in a slot, so do like (cc-hir:lambda-list instruction)
20:57:37 Bike i think that's a cleavir lambda list
20:57:52 drmeister Good, good - I'm hip to those.
20:58:07 Bike yeah, it is
20:58:29 Bike it has one input, which is the va-list (or vaslist i guess)
20:58:56 Bike and the outputs are the uh... processed locations i guess
20:59:00 drmeister So it will look like enter-instruction?
20:59:02 Bike same as enter.
20:59:07 Bike yeah. but with one input for the vaslist.
20:59:13 drmeister Ok.
21:00:12 drmeister So I'll take the vaslist and alloca a local va_list and remaining_nargs size_t , copy the stuff out of the vaslist into them and then generate code to ... the outputs?
21:00:23 drmeister There will be an output for every lambda list entry?
21:00:52 Bike yeah, like if your lambda list is (a &optional b) the outputs will be a, b, b-p i think
21:01:01 Bike i literally just copied what enter does to get its outputs
21:01:09 drmeister Right - right
21:09:10 Bike okay, loading fasls works
21:09:19 Bike that was a lot easier than i expected to say the least
21:09:41 Bike kind of amazing that the architecture works for this, that's cool design
21:12:38 Bike so it has enough fundamentals that i can compile and load a file with defmacro defun, and then defun factorial, and factorial works
21:13:00 Bike and what's left to do is add more standard functions; it's missing a ton that implicitly refer to the environment
21:13:03 Bike including READ


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Morning Five: 02.02.15 EditionPosted by nvr1983 on February 2nd, 2015
- We are not sure what made John Feinstein decide to file a column on Saturday recommending that a switch from the "one-and-done" model to the baseball model of drafting, but it certainly generated quite a bit of attention. If you aren't familiar with the baseball model, it essentially lets players enter the draft after high school and if they are selected they can enter become a professional baseball player (even if it is at the minor league level). If they choose not to go the professional route, they are not eligible until they have completed their junior year of college or are 21 years old. As you can imagine, the reaction has mostly been negative for a variety of reasons including the fact that baseball has a well-developed minor league system, which every player is expected to go through before playing for the MLB team that drafted them whereas nearly every first round pick is expected to play for their NBA team immediately. While we agree that the the NCAA/NBA policy regarding early entry, Feinstein's analysis is too rudimentary to be enforced.
- Normally the dismissal of a junior who comes off the bench would not be newsworthy (at least if it did not involve an arrest or NCAA violation), but when it involves Duke it certainly is. Late Thursday, Duke announced that Mike Krzyzewski had dismissed junior Rasheed Sulaimon from the team for being "unable to consistently live up to the standards required to be a member of our program". While we don't know what exactly Sulaimon did for Krzyzewski to make him the first player dismissed from the program–it was reportedly a series of events–but it must have occurred after their loss at Notre Dame. What it appears to have come down to is that Sulaimon's production (10 points, 2.7 rebounds, and 2 assists per game during his career, but declining over the years with less playing time) was not worth the headache. For its part Duke bounced back without Sulaimon for an improbable come-from-behind victory at Virginia on Saturday. As for Sulaimon we are not sure where he will end up next, but what once appeared to be a potential NBA career now looks more like one that will be spent overseas.
- While Sulaimon's dismissal may have been a bigger story in terms of headlines, the bigger news in terms of impact on the court came when Virginia Commonwealth guard Briante Weber tore the ACL and MCL in his right knee ending his college career. Weber suffered the injury late in a loss on Saturday against Richmond. It goes without saying that losing their defensive leader, who is just 12 short of the NCAA all-time leader, is a huge blow to VCU and its famed HAVOC defense. Perhaps even more importantly the Rams have now lost their point guard and leader on the court. While VCU is more well-equipped to handle this than you would expect from an Atlantic-10 team, but it certainly puts a cap on their ceiling.
- Illinois' hopes of making the NCAA Tournament this year already appeared pretty dim and the news that they have indefinitely suspended Rayvonte Rice and Aaron Crosby makes that seem even less likely. The timing of the suspension is interesting because both players have been injured with Rice having already missed seven games and Crosby having missed three games, but according to the school both are ready to return. The school would not elaborate on what the players did, but missing Ricer (17.2 points and 6.9 rebounds per game) and Crosby (7.8 points and 3.6 rebounds per game) for much longer would eliminate whatever slim hopes they have of making it to the NCAA Tournament.
- It has been a rough year at Bradley. The team 7-15 including 2-7 in the Missouri Valley and their coach has to pay $1.2 million to his old school for leaving early. On Thursday morning their leading scorer–Warren Jones–was arrested at a strip club for using an older teammate's ID and underage drinking. In addition to Jones (13.9 points per game), there were also citations levied against Ka'Darryl Bell (7.5 points per game) and Omari Grier (8.2 points per game). The extra salary will probably help Geno Ford sleep easier at night, but it has been a rough few weeks for him.


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Wednesday, March 11, 2009
Finkelman to Deliver the Huggins Lectures
2 comments:
- Shag from Brookline said...
I learned that each lecture period runs to 5:45 PM. I trust Prof. Finkelman's lectures will be as interesting as his writings. Hopefully, he'll have handouts. I'm planning to attend, as I live just across the Charles River in Brookline
- March 12, 2009 at 8:28:00 AM EDT
- Shag from Brookline said...
I did attend and Prof. Finkelman did a great job. I anxiously await what may be an article or book on his subject. The backgrounds he provided on Marshall, Story and Taney were very valuable in trying to understand these men in their views on slavery as expressed in SCOTUS decisions. And his brief description of the various Territories relative to slavery captures his description of the U.S. as a "Slaveholders Republic" prior to the Civil War. Yes, the Civil War was about slavery.
Thanks for this post. This is why I visit this Blog daily - often several times.
- March 20, 2009 at 7:54:00 AM EDT


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text: This strange product from Greenhouse is worth talking about, if only so I could share that headline with you. In case you're wondering, the pig is in soft silicon... to reproduce the texture of a real pig. After that news, you won't care these weird 'phones have a 20Hz to 20kHz frequency range, multi-sized silicon earbuds and 35-inch cable with a gold-plated plug. The GC-ERC-PIG's are available soon in pink black or white for just $11, but that's in Japan, pigheadphone fans. [AV Watch]


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domenica 25 dicembre 2011
Merry Christmas!
I wanna wish all my readers a merry Christmas and a happy new year!
Thank you to all my 17000 readers, and to those future ones!!!!
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Infos: Wine 1.3.35 released
The Wine development release 1.3.35 is now available.
What's new in this release:
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- Triangular gradients and cosmetic wide pens support in the DIB engine.
- All Wine dialogs can now be translated through po files.
- Many more scripts added to UniScribe.
- JScript using bytecode throughout now.
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- Various bug fixes.
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Update: five Humble Indie Bundle #3 games added to The Humble Indie Bundle #4
A wonderful news for all Humble Indie Bundle fans! Humble Bundle team has added 5 games (YEAH, FIVE GAMES!) from The Humble Indie Bundle #3 into The Humble Indie Bundle #4!
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- Crayon Physics Deluxe
- Cogs
- And Yet It Moves
- Hammerfight
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domenica 18 dicembre 2011
Update: all soundtracks available into The Humble Indie Bundle #4
Humble Bundle team updated its latest bundle with all the soundtracks of the games included into the bundle!
So what are you waiting for? If you already bought the bundle, just go back to the site and download them. If not, you're a fool! BUY IT NOWWWW!!!!
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Welcome to the Russellville Junior High Library. We are located at the center of the Junior High, where we connect the eighth and ninth-grade sides of the school. Because of this, we really do consider our library space the "HEART" of the school! RJHS students visit the library through their English classes on a two-week rotation. However, the library is open for students to use each day, as long as students have an appropriate teacher pass to visit.
Once a month, during one of the English class visits, we offer a Book Talk Coffee Shop to our students. Students love to visit our coffee shop for hot cocoa, cappuccino, or coffee ($1.00 each) to enjoy during their library visit. The library also coordinates a reading incentive program called the Library Lottery and Raffle. For this program, students are asked to briefly book-talk when they finish a book, and they receive points for what they read. At every 25 point increment, students earn a scratch-off "lottery" ticket, entitling them to a candy bar prize. At 50, 100, 150, and 200 points, students earn extra incentives to read, such as a trip to the movies or lunch in the library. Students also receive a raffle ticket for each 25 point increment. They put their name on the ticket and it goes into a drawing that we have each week. The more book talks a student gives, the more chances they have to win!
Every Friday, ninth-grade students are invited to bring their lunch in the library to attend our Book Talk Club, where we meet to discuss the great books we have been reading.
RJHS students may borrow three books at a time from the library. Students may keep the books for two weeks, at which time they should return or renew the books. Failure to return or renew will result in a $.5 per-day fine.
Additionally, RJHS students have free access to our online library of e-books, Overdrive. Students may borrow up to five titles or audiobooks through our Overdrive online library or app.


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Rookie reliever Addison Reed, the organization's No. 1 prospect, has added a cutter to his fastball, slider and changeup. He discovered it almost by accident while "messing around with grips" in a bullpen session with coach Juan Nieves.
"It feels awesome, so we'll see what happens with it," he said. "If I have all those pitches, that's just one more thing (hitters) have to be thinking about."
Reed has allowed one run in 4 1/3 spring innings.
Awesome. Maybe Reed can master his cutter and become a starter next year.
PS. You're freakin' awesome Juan! You too Coop!


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As you move closer to Christmas, it's a good time to get better acquainted with a plant that is famous for its festive name, the Christmas rose (Helleborus niger).
It grows about 30 cm high, has dark green leathery leaves and produces beautiful white flat-faced flowers and is considered something of a connoisseur plant by garden experts.
But it is not a rose. It rarely flowers at Christmas, yet it is still one of the most important flowers of the festive season.
In some circles, it is called the Black hellebore, and in Germany it is called the Snow rose.
There is one cultivar called Praecox (if you can find it) that has been known to bloom before Christmas, but most forms of Helleborus niger don't.
Highly rated hybrids include Potter's Wheel, White Magic, Eva and Higham's Variety, most of which bloom from January into February.
They thrive in part sun to light shade and average, well drained soil.
The best time to buy them is to wait until they are in flower at the garden centre, so you can see exactly what you are getting. The time of flowering is also usually accurate, too, as the plants are not forced into flower inside warm greenhouses.
They often cost more than people expect, between $16 and $30 a pot, but this is partly due to the fact that they take so long to produce from seed, which can take as long as nine months to germinate. Over the last 20 years, a whole new group of hybrids have been produced by crossing H. niger with its cousin, H. argutifolius.
Today, these are being sold as Helleborus x nigercors. One of the best in this group is 'Ivory Prince', which flowers from January to April.
However, the entire hellebore group of plants is worth getting to know, especially the later-flowering and bestselling the Lenten rose (Helleborus orientalis), which has been used extensively in hybridizing to produce all sorts of striking new plants sold under the name Helleborus hybrids.
In Europe, there is a tradition of using hellebores as holiday hostess gifts over Christmas instead of poinsettias.
With its eye on this market, the German nursery, Heuger Horticulture, spent years trying to hybridize hellebores that would flower early enough for Christmas. Several of these early-blooming varieties are now available in Vancouver. They are not only noted for their early-blooming but for their improved disease resistance.
Collectively known as the Gold Collection, they are promoted as wunderkind plants that bring "new life" to winter-flowering and early-spring blooming hellebores. They are great to use in winter containers and window boxes, but also do well planted under trees and shrubs.
Jacob is the earliest to bloom, flowering in mid-November. It has pure white flowers and burgundy stems and grows 30 cm high.
Cinnamon Snow flowers in December through to February. It has larger flowers that are more creamy-white than those of Jacob.
Josef Lemper has the largest flowers and has a reputation for superior garden performance. It has attractive deep green foliage and grows 45 cm high.
Pink Frost is the pick of the litter because of the abundance of buds it produces. These open in early January into lovely soft pink flowers that slowly turn deep burgundy as they mature.
This plant has a two-thumbs up rating with horticulturists.
Winter's Bliss and Winter's Song are two others that flower in January and continue producing blooming through to March while Moonlit Marble is the last in the Gold Collection to flower, blooming in February with creamy white flowers.
For spring, many gardeners look to cultivars of H. orientalis, better known as the Lenten rose. This has been used extensively in hybridization over the past few decades to produce an amazing range of colours from red, violet, grey and red to yellow, near-black and peach.
Many of these striking hellebores have been developed by growers, such as Marietta O'Byrne, of Oregon, Charles Price, of Seattle, and Judith and Dick Tyler, of Pine Knot Farms in Virginia.
One of Vancouver's top hellebore experts is Gary Lewis, owner of Phoenix Perennials Nursery in Richmond.
Every February, he holds a 'Hellebore Hurrah' event at his nursery featuring dozens of varieties. It has become popular with avid gardeners looking for specialty hellebores.
But the hellebore craze all started with the Christmas rose (Helleborus niger).
It is always good to remember our roots.


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Danny Connor believes victory in Saturday night's sold-out Prizefighter Light Welterweights III will make him the British 'Cinderella Man' after turning his career around.
The Surrey fighter failed to win any of his first five fights and was 5-5-1 when he edged out Tyler Goodjohn for the British Masters Welterweight title in May 2012, and followed that with two impressive wins over Chris Evangelou for the Southern Area belt in September.
The draw will be shown on Ringside tonight at 6pm on Sky Sports 1 HD and Danny Connor is certain to be one of the favourites, and the 27 year old says Saturday night could be the latest forward step in his rapid rise.
"If I win this – or when I win this because I am confident of winning – who knows, I could get a British title shot out of it and I would be the British 'Cinderella Man'," said Danny Connor.
"It'd be great to have Prizefighter champion on my CV. The money is great as well; £32,000 is a lot of money to put towards anyone's career. But doing well in Prizefighter can shoot you right up the rankings, it gets your name out there again and it is massive, massive exposure on Sky Sports."
The first of his two bouts with Evangelou was a 98-94 success at Alexandra Palace in September and was disputed by Evangelou's team. The pair met again at Wembley in March, where Connor won 97-93 and twice had his rival down in the seventh round – finally putting the rivalry to bed.
"I thought I won both fights against Chris," he said. "I thought I did more work and better work in the first one but to be fair if it had gone the other way I wouldn't have complained. But I got the decision and Chris had a scream up about it so I gave him the rematch and beat him the second time.
"It was nice to put that to bed, get it out of the way and hopefully move forward with my career now.
A student of the game, not much gets past Connor and the popular Southern Area champion hopes that knowledge will play off on Saturday.
"I know everything about everyone who is in this Prizefighter," he said. "I love boxing and everything to do with boxing. I am always going to shows, watching fights on TV and reading up about my opponents, so it is a massive plus.
"I know Tony Owen really well, he is a busy southpaw and I have known him since we were kids. Charlie Rice is a pressure fighter who comes forward, Eren Arif is pretty much the same, Ryan Taylor is a big right-hand puncher, Chris Jenkins was a good amateur and is busy, a bit of a body puncher from what I have seen of him and Matty Tew likes to box but also likes to come forward and finish a fight as well.
"In terms of style I think Tony Owen will be a big threat. He is a bit of an underdog and people don't realise how good he is. He is really nippy, he can fight, he is quick; he has it all going for him. If I wasn't to win it – and I am confident I am going to win it – I would say Tony or Eren are the two I could see causing some upsets."
The 31st edition of the Prizefighter series is part of a great night of action in east London as lightweight star Kevin Mitchell returns to the ring from a ten month absence following his World title challenge against Ricky Burns in September, with the action kicked off on the night by former Commonwealth welterweight champion John O'Donnell in a four-rounder.


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Statement by the European Commission and the European Central Bank following the conclusion of the first post-programme surveillance mission to Ireland
Following the successful completion of the EU/IMF financial assistance programme at the end of 2013, staff teams from the European Commission and European Central Bank (ECB), visited Ireland to carry out post-programme surveillance (PPS) on April 29-2 May. This was coordinated with the IMF's first post-programme monitoring (PPM) mission. The European Stability Mechanism also participated in the meetings on aspects related to its Early Warning System.
Overall, the outlook for Ireland has continued to improve since the conclusion of the EU/IMF-supported programme. Against the backdrop of a general decline of sovereign yields, demand for Irish assets from private investors is high as the authorities are resuming normal market borrowing. The economic recovery and the decline in headline budget deficits continue, while structural and financial sector reforms advance. Nonetheless, high public and private sector indebtedness weigh on the speed of the recovery, especially of private consumption.
High-frequency indicators continue to point towards a gradual recovery in 2014 as external demand developments support exports and domestic demand stabilises. For example in February, industrial production increased by 5.3% over the previous year and about 72,000 jobs have been created since the third quarter of 2012. In the first few months of the year, though still high, unemployment has proceeded on a steady downward path and is now below the euro-area average, consumer confidence has climbed and the property market has stabilized. GDP growth is projected at around 1 3/4% in 2014, up from -0.3% in 2013.
The general government deficit narrowed by over one percentage point of GDP in 2013 to 7.2% of GDP, within the 7.5% limit set under the Excessive Deficit Procedure (EDP). In 2013, revenue over-performed compared to plans while overall expenditure was on track; overruns in the health sector were offset by savings in other areas. The 2014 general government deficit is on track to stay within the 5.1% EDP ceiling. This projection assumes a rigorous implementation of the budget to offset health sector overruns, and is predicated upon a favourable growth and employment outlook. The authorities remain committed to reducing the general government deficit to below 3% of GDP in 2015, though specific adjustment measures are still to be determined and will be communicated in their Draft Budgetary Plan in October.
Improving market conditions have resulted in lower bank funding costs and reduced reliance on the Eurosystem for funding. Bank profitability has improved with the better operating environment, but it remains challenging as a result of the high levels of low-yielding tracker mortgages and non-performing loans. Total mortgage arrears have begun to fall from a high level as the banks have made progress in meeting their resolution targets, while lending to the private sector continues to decline. Continued restructuring of SME loans is critical to boost lending in this sector and support growth, while the ongoing review of the effectiveness of SME funding and the creation of non-bank financing sources are also important. This year, the main banks will undergo a supervisory risk assessment, an asset quality review and a stress test, in the context of the ECB's euro area-wide comprehensive assessment.
Structural reforms initiated under the EU/IMF-supported programme continue to progress. Active labour market policies focus on improving the delivery of support services in Intreo offices and on partially contracting out the provision of services to the long-term unemployed. At the same time, further education and training reforms aim to reduce significant skills mismatches and better address the needs of jobseekers and employers. Continued progress on these initiatives and on the Action Plan for Jobs will be critical to maintain the positive momentum on job creation and reduce youth and long-term unemployment. The implementation of the eHealth strategy is advancing together with the reform of financial management systems, but further reforms in the health sector are still needed to improve budget control and tackle overspending in pharmaceuticals. Water sector reforms are advancing as scheduled and the introduction of charges for domestic users by the end of 2014 could have important positive fiscal implications. Reduced legal services costs and better access to justice, including for businesses, are expected to be gained pending the timely completion of legal services regulatory reforms.
The next PPS mission will take place in late 2014.
The mission would like to thank the Irish authorities and the IMF for their constructive and open discussions.


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Sunday, May 22, 2011
Open is a Loose Term in the Mobile Market
In fact, when you bought your locked down Android device (that odds are came with plenty of ad-sponsored extra applications installed) you told Google (and the hardware company) that all the crap they are selling you is A-OK. You need to remember that the easiest way to let vendors know you think what they are doing is wrong is by not buying their products (and maybe writing a letter or two). Until this year Nokia was pro-Linux operating systems on mobiles and I showed my support by buying two of their N900 devices. Now that they are turning to Windows Mobile they won't be getting a penny more of my hard earned money.
Honestly, all of the Google/Android fans out there that think Google backs FOSS for anyone other than themselves is just naive. The holding of the Honeycomb (Android 3.0) source code so outside developers cannot get devices on the market at the same time (or even before) Google's slow moving partners is just further proof of this. Remember folks Microsoft also claims to love open source as well, but actions speak far louder than words.
I guess in the end "open" is a loose term when it comes to the mobile market. Yes, Android is more open than a good deal of other mobile operating system alternatives - but it is far from the freedom we see in desktop computing. Our mobiles won't be truly "open" until hardware manufactures stop riddling FOS operating systems with closed source hardware and software components.
~Jeff Hoogland
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- AnonymousMay 25, 2011 at 3:01 PM
I'm still an Android fan if only for custom ROMs.As a desktop Linux newb however I'm a bit taken aback when I found out that the only "linuxy" thing on Android are its kernel and not much else.I mean I thought this time we'd see some easy .deb packages inter-use or whatnot.I was hoping for that utopian holy grail of PC to mobile seamlessness on Linux via Android.ReplyDelete
I'm guessing that Google obviously would only want to game that through its multi pronged Android + Chrome OS cloud strategy.A bit of pity there.As to me currently the cloud represents every single privacy + security nightmare yet to be fully addressed.
There's still WebOS and MeeGo though.Prob is the 2's main industrial proponents (HP & Intel) are being laggards.Even compared to what's roughly mostly freebie-fied dissimilar ideals prevalent in all top desktop Linux upstreams' standards, WebOS and Meego's rates of execution (or to be frank so far the lack thereof) are abysmal.
I can't understand it.Billions upon billions of dollars combined heft from the 2 MNCs (not to mention surely immense R&D brains + firepower in both co.s?) and yet so far HP only just got the Veer out and only Nokia's N9 (what's up Intel?) made leaks?


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From GoldCore
Gold Over EUR 1,300 - On Way to 'Infinity' on Eurozone Contagion?
Gold is trading at USD 1,783.10, EUR 1,307.50, GBP 1,116.30, CHF 1,612.20, JPY 138,315 and CNY 11,309 per ounce.
Gold's London AM fix this morning was USD 1,780.00, GBP 1,112.50, and EUR 1,300.41 per ounce.
Yesterday's AM fix was USD 1,794.00, GBP 1,114.49, and EUR 1,301.51 per ounce.
Risk off has returned with a vengeance as Italian debt markets have gone into meltdown leading to falls in European equity indices. Gold remains near a seven week high and has risen to above EUR 1,305/oz due to the deepening Eurozone crisis and contagion risk.
Cross Currency Rates
Deepening geopolitical tensions regarding Iran, Israel and the western world has led to oil rising for six days in a row now and this is also supporting gold. The International Atomic Energy Agency said Iran was developing nuclear-weapons capabilities that gave it "serious concern" about possible military aspects to Iran's nuclear programme.
Italy's bond markets are heading the way of Ireland, Greece and Portugal with their 10 year bond yield surging to over 7.45% and the yield curve inverting with the 2 year yield rising above the 10 year.
China's gold consumption continues to surprise even bullish analysts. China's gold consumption is expected to jump nearly 50% to reach 400 tonnes this year. Thus exceeding the country's forecast of more than 350 tonnes. 400 tonnes compares to just 270 tonnes in 2010 which was itself a record month.
Official Chinese annual consumer inflation numbers showed an easing to 5.5% from September's 6.1%. The savings rate (1 year) is at 3.5% meaning steep negative real interest rates continue in China which is bullish for continuing Chinese gold demand.
So far, gold has not managed to rise above the psychologically important $1,800 level. However, the real risk of contagion in the eurozone and the breakup of the European monetary union means that gold's safe haven properties will be increasingly appreciated in the coming months.
While much of the media attention has been on the political 'punch and judy' show in Athens, Rome and in the European Union there continues to be a failure to soberly analyse the ramifications of the crisis for consumers, investors and savers.
The unprecedented scale of the debt crisis means that inflation and currency devaluations will almost certainly result from the crisis. Savers and those on fixed incomes will be very vulnerable as they were in the stagflation of the 1970's and in the economic meltdowns seen in Argentina, Russia and in Belarus as we speak.
All the focus has shifted from Greece to Italy recently and markets and media have focused on the Eurozone debt crisis.
However, the US is itself facing a debt crisis which is also of a monumental scale. It is of a scale that it cannot be resolved by the usual kneejerk resorting to the printing presses and today's equivalent panacea - computer credit creation.
The US National Debt will likely reach $15 trillion by the end of this week. Some estimates of unfunded liabilities are over $116 trillion. The US has similar issues to the many debt stricken countries of the Eurozone.
One of the few sane voices for many years regarding the dangers of excessive private and public debt has been Presidential candidate Ron Paul.
Gold Could Go to 'Infinity' Says Presidential Candidate Ron Paul
Ron Paul gave another perceptive interview to CNBC yesterday and warned of hyperinflation and the possibility that the dollar could become worthless. The CNBC interview can be watched here.
When asked how high the gold price would go and why, he responded:
"well, the question is how much lower is the dollar going to go in purchasing power? and i said to infinity unless we change our ways. because if you look at the gold/dollar in 1913 when the fed started, we've lost about 98% of its value. so if we continue to do what we're doing, it could go to infinity. it's the best measurement of the value of the currency. there's no advantage to anybody to have a weak currency. the gold tells us that we have a weakening dollar and a weakening currency, but the whole world does, so it's hard to sort out. so it's going to go up a lot more, which is virtually saying the dollar has a long way to go down on purchasing power. that's why the middle class gets wiped out and that is why the standard of living is going. down for the people, they already know it, and that's why there's people very unhappy in this country and they'd like to blame a few people. for all of the problems rather than looking at the philosophy of government, the monetary system, and the spending. because that's where you can find the answers to our problems."
We do not make price predictions but given the scale of the current global debt crisis it would be naïve to completely discount the possibility of sharp devaluations of the euro, the dollar and the pound and gold surging well above the inflation adjusted high of $2,500/oz in dollar and pound terms and equivalent prices in euros.
It is not too late to diversify and never has it been more important to be prudent.
For breaking news and commentary on financial markets and gold, follow us on Twitter
(Reuters) -- Gold edges up, Italy's debt worries linger
(Financial Times) -- Gold pulls back from $1,800 level
(Reuters) -- U.S. mulls Iran sanctions but not on oil, central bank
(Business Week) -- Oil Increases a Sixth Day as Iran Nuclear Work Poses Supply Risk
(CNBC Video) -- Jim Rickards, "Currency Wars" Author, Discusses Who Is the Biggest Currency Manipulation Offender
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Depiction (from hostile sources) of a torture chamber of the Spanish Inquisition with suspected heretics having their feet burned or being suspended with a rope from a pulley while scribes note down confessions. Engraving by B. Picart, 1722. [Wikimedia Commons / Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license]
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Sam Shamoun does great work in answering and refuting the claims of Islam. I have recommended his work in that regard for years now (even "liking" his Facebook Page): particularly on his Answering Islam site; and in fact we worked together one day some years ago in discussion with Muslims and had a very cordial meal at a restaurant afterwards. He has actually complimented my apologetics as well: at least that in defense of the Holy Trinity. We got along so well, he wrote afterwards (words in blue throughout):
I am reading your stuff since I think it is the most thorough and perhaps the best defense of Catholicism out there . . . Dave has been nothing but respectful and kind to me. He has shown me great respect despite knowing full well that I disagree with him on the essential issues.
When it comes to treatment of Catholicism, however, Sam, like too many Protestants, shows himself quite less capable of reasoned and sensible argumentation.
In the combox of one of his [public] Facebook threads (dated 4-9-14), he stated, initially replying to someone else:
I don't believe the Roman Catholic Church is the one Jesus built, . . . Moreover, even though you claim that the Catholic Church has brought more people to Christ it has also murdered and persecuted more people in the name of Christ than anyone else, i.e. the Inquisition where an estimated 50-68 million people were killed by Rome. Just ask the Jews how they were treated by the Catholic Church. Thus, there has been no other denomination or institution that has done greater damage in turning people away from Christ than the Roman Catholic Church. [my bolding]
That caught my eye (being a cherished anti-Catholic myth that I have encountered many times), and I replied, citing his numbers:
Really? Please tell me the name of reputable historians who assert such an absolutely ridiculous figure. Thanks! I've yet to get a name after asking several Protestants who make this ludicrous claim.
And he counter-responded:
It's called Google. ;-)
So instead of deflecting away from the subject [which I didn't do; rather, I asked a simple clarifying question about his claim], ARE YOU DENYING the evil of the Inquisition? [note the clever changing of the subject] Better yet, could you please give me YOUR estimates for how many people your church murdered and YOUR justification for such atrocities? I will be waiting eagerly to read your sources and justification for this evil.
I've tried to post a very fair and balanced article titled "Estimates of the Number Killed by the Papacy in the Middle Ages and later" by David A. Plaisted, published in 2006, but due to its length I haven't been able to do so. I recommend you google it and read through it and tell me what you think since he examines the numbers of those purported to have been murdered by your church. In the meantime, please give me YOUR sources with the estimated numbers of people your church murdered during the Inquisition, and provide your justification for such atrocities, so we can take it from there. If you do not comply by providing what you deem to be credible and reliable sources then consider yourself banned from this page.
Gotta love that threat and "righteous indignation" at the end. Despite this surprisingly acerbic treatment, I replied at length. Here it is:
Plaisted has a Ph.D. in computer science. He's not an historian at all. So I ask for "reputable historians" and the best you can come up with is a computer science guy? That's laughable, and you can do far better. I know that for sure, because I've seen and recommended your work. But it's also a case study in severe bias against the Catholic Church and what it does to otherwise sound and able minds.
The actual numbers, of course, are just a few thousand, according to real (and competent) historians. For starters, here are two non-Catholic, reputable historians:
1) Edward Peters, professor of history at the University of Pennsylvania, author of Inquisition (Berkeley: University of California Press, 1989).
On page 87 of his book, Peters states: "The best estimate is that around 3000 death sentences were carried out in Spain by Inquisitorial verdict between 1550 and 1800, a far smaller number than that in comparable secular courts."
2) Henry Kamen, a Fellow of the Royal Historical Society and professor of history at various universities, including the University of Wisconsin – Madison; author of The Spanish Inquisition: A Historical Revision (London and New Haven: Yale University Press, 1998; fourth revised edition, 2014).
Their work is featured in the Wikipedia article, "Historical Revision of the Inquisition".
These two books are in the forefront of an emerging, very different perspective on the Inquisitions: an understanding that they were exponentially less inclined to issue death penalties than had previously been commonly assumed, and also quite different in character and even essence than the longstanding anti-Catholic stereotypes would have us believe. Dr. Kamen states in his book:
Taking into account all the tribunals of Spain up to about 1530, it is unlikely that more than two thousand people were executed for heresy by the Inquisition. (p. 60)
. . . it is clear that for most of its existence that Inquisition was far from being a juggernaut of death either in intention or in capability. . . . it would seem that during the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries fewer than three people a year were executed in the whole of the Spanish monarchy from Sicily to Peru, certainly a lower rate than in any provincial court of justice in Spain or anywhere else in Europe. (p. 203)
For copiously documented facts and figures, see: "Beyond the Myth of The Inquisition: Ours Is 'The Golden Age'", by Fr. Brian Van Hove, S. J., Faith and Reason (Winter, 1992).
I do not "defend" the Inquisition as a practice, but what I do do (what you clearly have not done) is try to properly and accurately understand it in the context of its time (the Middle Ages and early modern periods). In those days, almost all Christians (not just Catholics; minus only a few small groups like Anabaptists and Quakers) believed in corporal and capital punishment for heresy, because they thought (here is the correct premise) that heresy was far more dangerous to a person and society than physical disease was. That is exactly right: heresy can land one in hell; no disease could ever do that.
So they believed in punishing the heretic for the sake of the good of the society. I deal with these issues at length, on my web page, "Inquisition, Crusades, and 'Catholic Scandals'".
What Protestants often do, however, in direct proportion to how much they are anti-Catholic, is to exercise a double standard in condemning the Catholic Church for engaging in this practice, and exaggerating grotesquely by positing ridiculous, ludicrous numbers, given the entire population of Europe in those days, and even enlisting clowns like Plaisted, who is not an historian, to bolster their uninformed prejudices.
It's thought that the population of Europe was 73.5 million in 1340 and 50 million in 1450, due to the Black Death. It was about 70 million in 1550 and 78 million in 1600; 150 million by 1800. There is no way that the numbers killed could be anything remotely approaching Sam's ridiculous figures. We know that they weren't, anyway, by consulting actual historians (not eccentric computer scientists) and experts on the Middle Ages.
This being the case, I inform my readers that Protestants (including Luther, Calvin, the English "reformers", Zwingli, Melanchthon et al) have a long list of "scandals" and inquisitions as well. In just one example among many, Martin Luther and John Calvin both accepted the execution of Anabaptists (by a mocking drowning) due to their belief in adult baptism. They considered this sedition. They also executed many Catholics in England, often by drawing and quartering and ripping out their hearts) simply for being Catholics (think: end of Braveheart: William Wallace was hanged, emasculated, disemboweled, his heart cut out, and all four limbs and head cut off). This is what Henry VIII and his successors did to many Catholics, simply for worshiping as their ancestors had done for 1500 years. I document this at great length and excruciating detail on my web page: "Protestantism: Historic Persecution and Intolerance".
I've answered your question in great detail, under penalty of being banned if I didn't. But I did. Now the ball's in your court. You can choose (and dare!) to keep this post up and reply to it in a reasonable manner (with substantiation from real historians this time, as I requested), or get rid of it as severely damaging to the myth you have tried to promulgate above. Your choice.
But since you have threatened to ban me, I will preserve this thread and my answer on my blog, in case you delete it and my careful work in answering your question is all in vain. I know all these dubious tactics from 18 years' experience online. I'm not naive enough to not preserve work I do from folks who love the delete button when they are unable to refute . . .
Dave Armstrong, let's try this one more time. Instead of plastering a book length response here which no one will read, answer my questions succinctly. I will even put this in caps in order to help you answer directly. PLEASE GIVE ME THE ROUGH ESTIMATE THAT YOU THINK WERE MURDERED BY YOUR CHURCH DURING THE INQUISITION WITH A LINK OR NAME OF A REPUTABLE SOURCE FOR ME TO VERIFY IT FOR MYSELF. SECONDLY, PLEASE PROVIDE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR YOUR CHURCH MURDERING THESE PEOPLE. Hopefully that helped you understand how not to answer and how to properly answer a question. Take care.
ALREADY DID ALL THAT. I wrote, "The actual numbers, of course, are just a few thousand, according to real (and competent) historians." You were obviously among the persons that didn't read my post (i.e., before you deleted it). I gave you two reputable historians (Edward Peters and Henry Kamen), and their books and credentials, and cited Peters, saying: " "The best estimate is that around 3000 death sentences were carried out in Spain by Inquisitorial verdict between 1550 and 1800, a far smaller number than that in comparable secular courts." But I guess you didn't read that, either, since we're on this imbecilic, rude playground level you have chosen to descend to. I predicted that you might very well play the ""that's too LOOOONG for me to read!" evasion on my Facebook page, since you did it with someone else, and deleted his comment, too.
I also dealt with corporal and capital punishment as something done by almost all Christians during the late middle ages and 16th century period: a somewhat complex thing that we should try to understand rather than lie about. But I don't defend it in terms of actually favoring such a thing; never have. My position is that the early Church and current view of almost all Christians, of religious tolerance, is far preferable.
Extremely disappointing.
May God bless you abundantly in all things, this Holy Week, as we recall with thankfulness, all that our glorious Lord and Savior and Redeemer Jesus did on our behalf in His passion and death on the cross, saving all who will humble themselves and call upon His name, in order to be saved in the end.
Sam then responded to another Catholic in the thread in a way that suggests he thinks the same about my reply:
. . . instead of making excuses to run away from defending your church's atrocities, why not try to respond in the same manner that I . . . have done, instead of posting book length responses whose sole aim is to try to overwhelm your opponents with empty rhetoric masquerading as a substantive response? Try it since it will do your soul some good.
This is straight out of the James White Anti-Catholic Ultra-Condescension Handbook. Classic . . .
I wrote the above before his final parting shots. Am I a prophet or what? Here are his latest rantings:
Dave Armstrong, I was going to allow your post to stand because you managed to edit it down from a book length response filled with fluff and evasion to a manageable size where we can actual read through your bluster. However, seeing your rather stupid childish comments and accusations, i.e. "since we're on this imbecilic, rude playground level you have chosen to descend to. I predicted that you might very well play the 'that's too LOOOONG for me to read!' evasion", you have less than an hour to remove yourself from this page before I ban you. Moreover, next time I show up in Michigan I will be more than happy to set up a live debate between you and me on the satellite shows which I do out there. Then we will see who will end up sounding imbecilic and childish. Time is a tickin!
Gee, how original of you Dave Armstrong: [cites this paper] I guess I should be flattered that you have done a post on me, much like you have done with nearly every Protestant apologist from James White to Eric Svendsen. Is this how you try to get people to financially support your ministry, by giving the impression that you are capable of debating and refuting the "big guns" of Protestantism? It obviously isn't working now is it? You have less than 30 minutes to remove yourself as I ban you.
There you have it, folks. This is what you get, trying to have a rational discussion about historical facts with a raving anti-Catholic zealot. I never expected this from Sam. Apparently over time, he's become an embittered parody of a satire of James White: the Grand Poobah of the anti-Catholics and greatest slanderer of them all. And that is a sad thing to be.
[see also the Facebook discussion about this paper]


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To the surprise of no one, Gwen Bell announced that there would be no official Reverb11 this year. I'm disappointed — that was an excellent exercise for me. However, it was an excellent exercise for me, so I'm going to do it again this year. I wrote 31 prompts and I'm excited to start ending 2011.
Despite writing new prompts for myself, I want to begin this project with a nod to Reverb10. Today's prompt comes from Kaileen Elise:
Where did 2011 begin?
Skiing is my big passion, so every year I eagerly wait for cold weather and snow so I can gleefully slide down a mountain. The year never really feels complete until the ski season ends, and this year that was especially true.
This year I was working as a ski instructor in the morning and cooking at night, leading to 60-70 hour work weeks, so the first third of 2011 is largely a sleep-deprived blur. However, by May the weather was finally too warm for the snow to hold up and Tahoe's amazing 2010/2011 season came to an end. My year began a week later when I performed my end-of-season ritual with my roommate. That ritual pushed us from roommates to friends and hit the reset button for me, so my year began. I moved to Spokane within the week.
I've spent this year working to find my place here, trying to define my identity so clearly that I can take it anywhere without feeling like I'm starting over. I'm re-evaluating and rebuilding my core story, examining my beliefs and making room for a little more faith in myself, a little more self-compassion. It has not been an easy year, but last December I recognized that I had a lot of work to do if I wanted to change my life.
I'm not sure when 2012 will begin or how 2011 will end, but I do hope that I end 2011 with copious amounts of gleefully sliding down a mountain and begin 2012 feeling love and compassion for a new friend.
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How do you end the year? Are you participating in a reincarnation of Reverb or some other project? Share the links in the comments.


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