Q.  With  all  the  crowd  that  was  there  ?  A.  Yes,  sir,  all  the
crowd  shut  in  ; — it  didn't  take  much  of  a  door  to  hold  them
after  that.  They  didn't  pretend  against  opening  the  door,
neither.
Q.  State  what  they  did  with  these  men.  A.  They  just
carried  them  out  sir ;  I  am  not  able  to  tell,  then,  what  they  did.
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Q.  Did  you  hear  any  noise?  A.  I  didn't  hear  it  myself,  be-
cause I  was  in  there  amongst  my  family.  What  I  tell  you,  1
saw,  and  outside  of  that  I  haven't  any  business.
Q.  State  how  the  child  was, — what  its  symptoms  were.  A.
Well,  it  come  to  be  so,  sir,  after  that,  that  its  mother  could
never  raise  it  up,  sir,  with  no  kind  of  peace,  excepting  it
screamed.  She  couldn't  catch  hold  of  it  in  no  place,  to  raise  it
up  that  it  had  any  pleasure  at  all.     That  is  the  truth.
Q.  Couldn't  take  it  up?     A.  No,  sir,  it  seemed  to  halloo.
Q.  With  pain  ?  A.  Yes,  sir,  it  seemed  to  halloo  when  she
took  it  up.
Q.  Did  you  state  liow  man}-  there  vrere  that  came?  A.
JSTo,  sir,  I  reckon  there  might  be  about  a  dozen  or  something  of
that  matter  together  in  the  house.
Q.  Were  they  on  horseback  or  on  foot?  A.  They  were  a
foot.
Q.  Did  you  see  whether  they  had  gowns  on  ?  A.  Yes,  they
had  gowns  on.  Whether  they  were  white  or  black  I  couldn't
discover,  only  their  gowns  touched  the  bare  floor.  I  didn't  see
nothing  that  I  could  discover  that  looked  like  human.
Q.  Did  you  think  they  were  human  ?  A.  Well,  at  that
time  I  didn't  know.
