He would not <^o into the merits of the finan cial scheme, as it carried its own condem nation with it ; there was no security at all offered for the loan, and altogether it was so ridiculous that it was mere waste of time to debate it. Mr Robjolms, to show that Mr Vautier was not chargeable with rushing the matter, quoted Mr Ormond's address to the Provincial Council at tho opening of the sossion of 1873, in which Mr Ormond had advocated the construction of a breakwater, saying that if it was practi cable at ' Oamaru it was practicable at .Napier, and predicting a brilliant feature for Bawke's Bay. With that prediction he (Mr Robjolms) agreed, but it would not bo with the present harbor works, and which were intended to be ex tended. Tho peblic, he considered, had boon very forbearing, but until they had a breakwater they would not be satisfied Colonel Lambert wished Mr Vautier could bo prevailed upon to withdraw his motion. When he introduced it he, no doubt, thought only of Napier, but the country settlers wore more largely con cerned in it than the town people. What Mr Robjolms had just read was what had been said six years ago ; they were very much wiser now, Engineers had been sent down to enquire into the matter sinco that was said, and they had ascer tained that there was travelling shingle. He had no objection to a breakwater ; oir the con tray, ho would like to see due con-' structed, but ho could not agree to the present proposal. As to the injury the port was suffering from the Want of a breakwater, he had seen paragraphs in tho newspaper that were far more in jurious to thu port. As to tho proposal to double the port charges, they had an instance of what high charges would do in the taking off of the Rangatira on thai account. How would it be if the charges wore doubled ? Ho believed that if the people of Napier were polled there would be a large majority against it. At all events, they should bear in mind that they required works until they got a breakwater. And as to no improvement having been effected, why lighters could go in and out at times now when they could not formerly. 