A letter was received from Mr A. do Lisle Hammond, begging to be excused from attendance that day, as he was busily engaged with bis own school. The Rev. Mr Gulliver was then called ID in order to be cross-examined. In answer to Mr Macrae he stated : -What he meant by faying that the Aucklaud Grammar School pursued the same Hues as the Eng lish National Schools was tbat the method of changing the masters from class to class was followed here as there The same practice was universally followed in colleges and universities of foreign countries. He thought himself competent to undertake the charge of an English National School. He had said that two of the classes in the Grammar School were too large. Mr Macrae had himself told him that those classes this year were exceptionally large. He believed in the "form" system as against the "aub ject" system. He had found the absence of desks a serious hindrance and an inter ference with the success of the les sons, and a hindrance to discipline. Ho was fully of opinion that the welfare of the school depended upon proper classifi cation. He had not been favourably im pressed with the working of the tcuool. He could not tell whether or not he had himself succeeded in making a favourable impression upon the boyp, Iv making the statement that the school should send up ten lads for matriculation every year, he had looked to the capabilities of the boys,

and had ascertained the Univeisity require ments here.
