Does  Bernarr  McFadden  fly  ?

Mr,  Miranda.  He  is  a  flying  enthusiast.  He  has  flown  several
Lockheeds.
Senator  Bone.  He  flies  them  himself?

Mr.  Miranda.  I  believe  he  is  a  pilot ;  yes.
Senator  Bone.  This  Bernarr  McFadden  is  a  publisher  ?

Mr.  Miranda.  Yes.
Senator  Bone  (reading)  :

All  of  these  people  I  know  well  and  I  find  them  most  useful  in  the  pursuit
of  business.
Can  you  just  briefly  tell  us  how  they  are  useful  to  you  in  the
pursuit  of  business  ?

Mr.  Miranda.  I  guess  most  of  them  are  either  Lockheed  owners
or  Lockheed  users.  They  maintain  their  planes  in  and  about  New
York  and  when  foreign  missions  come  to  New  York  or  when  foreign
customers  come  to  New  York,  it  is  possible  to  show  them  the  private
planes  of  some  of  these  people.
Senator  Bone.  In  other  words,  these  people  are  willing  to  say
that  Lockheed  is  a  very  fine  plane?

Mr.  Miranda.  Yes.     It  is.
Senator  Bone.  ^Vlio  is  Nick  Bates?

Mr.  Miranda.  Nick  Bates?

Senator  Bone.  Yes.
Mr.  Miranda.  Nick  Bates  I  think — his  official  title  is  assistant  to
the  chief  of  the  military  sales  division  of  the  du  Pont  Co.
Senator  Bone.  Of  which?

Mr.  Miranda.  E.  I.  du  Pont  de  Nemours.
Senator  Bone.  What  are  his  business  activities  in  South  America?

Mr.  Miranda.  I  think  he  travels  all  over  South  America  as  a
supervisor  for  the  du  Pont  Powder  Co.
Senator  Bone.  As  a  supervisor?

Mr.  Miranda.  Yes.
=  In  a  telegram  to  the  committee  which  was  entered  into  the  record  of  Sept.  11,  1934,
immediately  preceding  the  noon  recess,  Miss  Nicholls  denied  Mr.  Miranda's  allegations
(see  pt.  IV).
