<story><title>EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Grumbledour</author><text>As terrible as this is, I am actually even more shocked by this proposal:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;techcrunch.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;09&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;europe-to-push-for-one-hour-takedown-law-for-terrorist-content&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;techcrunch.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;09&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;europe-to-push-for-one-hou...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Having one hour to remove offending content, draconian fines and no, absolutely no exceptions for small content providers would, I think, end the internet as we know it in Europe. I see no way to host any kind of content under such jurisdiction and surely all non European content providers would just block the EU rather then take on a task that even giants like facebook and google can barely manage.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>smsm42</author><text>Wow, this gets crazier and crazier. So either any content provider should be able to determine within one hour whether every comment is &amp;quot;terrorist&amp;quot; or not (with guidelines as clear as &amp;quot;information which is used to incite and glorify the commission of terrorist offences&amp;quot;) and remove it, or, more likely, they&amp;#x27;d auto-remove every comment that anybody marked as &amp;quot;terrorist&amp;quot; and let people complain about it later. Coupled with law enforcement interface (which would probably mean notifying the law enforcement about somebody posting &amp;quot;terrorist content&amp;quot; - that&amp;#x27;s only make sense?) this paints a very scary picture for the future of online free speech in EU.</text></comment>
<story><title>EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Grumbledour</author><text>As terrible as this is, I am actually even more shocked by this proposal:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;techcrunch.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;09&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;europe-to-push-for-one-hour-takedown-law-for-terrorist-content&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;techcrunch.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;09&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;europe-to-push-for-one-hou...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Having one hour to remove offending content, draconian fines and no, absolutely no exceptions for small content providers would, I think, end the internet as we know it in Europe. I see no way to host any kind of content under such jurisdiction and surely all non European content providers would just block the EU rather then take on a task that even giants like facebook and google can barely manage.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>zaarn</author><text>From what I read on this specific proposal, it&amp;#x27;s not entirely draconian and has some benefits to the user, since the process also implements transparency requirements and complaint mechanisms.&lt;p&gt;As far as the one-hour-rule goes; if I get an email about taking down content at 01:00AM, then I will naturally be unable to respond for atleast another 5 hours, German courts atleast agree that for such things, it counts when you are first aware of the illegal&amp;#x2F;infringing content, even if it&amp;#x27;s weeks after (though you already have an obligation to operate a contact through which you can be quickly reached when you operate in germany atleast, IIRC this proposal will introduce that EU-wide which is good IMO).</text></comment>