<story><title>Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘talk’ about the past</title><url>https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/11/orangutans-are-only-great-apes-besides-humans-talk-about-past</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dmos62</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s a relievingly admirable way to look at these creatures. I find the English &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; an exceptionally tiring feature. There are so many prejudices and world views embded in our languages. We call ourselves hackers, but where&amp;#x27;s a hackaday.io or hackathons for human language, the ubiquitous communication medium?</text></item><item><author>emerongi</author><text>&amp;gt; The name &amp;quot;orangutan&amp;quot; (also written orang-utan, orang utan, orangutang, and ourang-outang) is derived from the Malay and Indonesian words orang meaning &amp;quot;person&amp;quot; and hutan meaning &amp;quot;forest&amp;quot;,[10] thus &amp;quot;person of the forest&amp;quot;.[11]&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Orangutan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Orangutan&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>se7entime</author><text>&amp;quot;orangutan&amp;quot; if i translate to my Native Languange (i&amp;#x27;m Indonesian), orang = human in general (could be man&amp;#x2F;woman), utan = forest, so i can say &amp;quot;orangutan&amp;quot; mean &amp;quot;The Human that Live in Forest&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>liftbigweights</author><text>&amp;gt; That&amp;#x27;s a relievingly admirable way to look at these creatures.&lt;p&gt;What&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;admirable&amp;quot; or not &amp;quot;admirable&amp;quot; about. It&amp;#x27;s just language. If you read about the way orangutans are treated in indonesia, I doubt you&amp;#x27;d feel it was admirable.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I find the English &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; an exceptionally tiring feature.&lt;p&gt;Then don&amp;#x27;t use it.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; We call ourselves hackers&lt;p&gt;Who is we? I haven&amp;#x27;t seen many hackers here. Just people with agendas, particular leftist social agendas.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; but where&amp;#x27;s a hackaday.io or hackathons for human language, the ubiquitous communication medium?&lt;p&gt;Are you saying english is the &amp;quot;human language&amp;quot;? Also, math is the closest thing to the ubiquitous communication medium.&lt;p&gt;Not sure what your complaining about. Orangutan is part of the english language as well. You don&amp;#x27;t have to use &amp;#x27;it&amp;#x27;. And as for your &amp;quot;hacking the language&amp;quot;, I don&amp;#x27;t care for your or anyone else Newspeak. Language is a tool and it should evolve as the need requires, not because people have a social agenda to push.</text></comment>
<story><title>Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘talk’ about the past</title><url>https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/11/orangutans-are-only-great-apes-besides-humans-talk-about-past</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dmos62</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s a relievingly admirable way to look at these creatures. I find the English &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; an exceptionally tiring feature. There are so many prejudices and world views embded in our languages. We call ourselves hackers, but where&amp;#x27;s a hackaday.io or hackathons for human language, the ubiquitous communication medium?</text></item><item><author>emerongi</author><text>&amp;gt; The name &amp;quot;orangutan&amp;quot; (also written orang-utan, orang utan, orangutang, and ourang-outang) is derived from the Malay and Indonesian words orang meaning &amp;quot;person&amp;quot; and hutan meaning &amp;quot;forest&amp;quot;,[10] thus &amp;quot;person of the forest&amp;quot;.[11]&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Orangutan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Orangutan&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>se7entime</author><text>&amp;quot;orangutan&amp;quot; if i translate to my Native Languange (i&amp;#x27;m Indonesian), orang = human in general (could be man&amp;#x2F;woman), utan = forest, so i can say &amp;quot;orangutan&amp;quot; mean &amp;quot;The Human that Live in Forest&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>atlantic</author><text>With 6500 languages to choose from, I&amp;#x27;m sure there are more than a few incorporating a world-view which aligns with yours. Rather than create something entirely new, wouldn&amp;#x27;t it be more reasonable to delve into what is already on offer?</text></comment>