<story><title>Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug</title><url>http://cdm.link/2019/02/apple-2018-glitch/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>iainmerrick</author><text>&lt;i&gt;music producers are one of the most Apple-leaning crowds, and yet they feel like they are being ignored by Apple.&lt;/i&gt; [...] &lt;i&gt;this is a small market in the grand scheme of things.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is the same point that’s often made about developers. But if it’s not developers and it’s not music producers, what &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; the large market for Macs that dwarfs everything else? And are they at least getting the products and features they want?</text></item><item><author>mastazi</author><text>The article comes from CDM which is a music production website, MacBooks are very popular in that field, and basically all audio producers use external audio interfaces, it&amp;#x27;s not an uncommon use case. This is not the first time that this type of issues happens (from memory, last year an OSX update broke compatibility with Native Instruments Maschine, a very popular music software). So I think the point that the article is trying to make, is that music producers are one of the most Apple-leaning crowds, and yet they feel like they are being ignored by Apple. But at the same time I understand your point, this is a small market in the grand scheme of things.</text></item><item><author>komali2</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s a weird glitch, and generally I&amp;#x27;m not a fan of apple hardware (I think it&amp;#x27;s overpriced, that their keyboards suck, that they don&amp;#x27;t have enough ports, and I don&amp;#x27;t enjoy working in osx), but this article comes off as almost biblically haughty. Apple should have tests around clock updates affecting external audio quality? I mean, maybe after this bug being discovered, sure, but before, was that a connection that could have been made in a QA engineers mind? Maybe it is, maybe it&amp;#x27;s fair? I don&amp;#x27;t know anything about manufacturing hardware, but I just find it surprising.&lt;p&gt;Like, off the top of my head, the x1 carbon is still loved by most Linux users (that I have encountered) despite the fact that out of the box, sleep literally does not work on it for Linux systems. You have to install a BIOS update. Yet Lenovo doesn&amp;#x27;t seem to get nearly the attention that apple does for this and the myriad of other mistakes I have discovered with them.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>blihp</author><text>Consumers. (i.e. casual computer users who aren&amp;#x27;t terribly demanding in any particular dimension)  Unfortunately they&amp;#x27;ve been flocking in for the &amp;#x27;just works&amp;#x27; Apple reputation as it is being un-earned by Apple.  But for many in this group, it&amp;#x27;s probably good enough vs. what they were using before.</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple’s Latest Macs Have a Serious Audio Glitching Bug</title><url>http://cdm.link/2019/02/apple-2018-glitch/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>iainmerrick</author><text>&lt;i&gt;music producers are one of the most Apple-leaning crowds, and yet they feel like they are being ignored by Apple.&lt;/i&gt; [...] &lt;i&gt;this is a small market in the grand scheme of things.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is the same point that’s often made about developers. But if it’s not developers and it’s not music producers, what &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; the large market for Macs that dwarfs everything else? And are they at least getting the products and features they want?</text></item><item><author>mastazi</author><text>The article comes from CDM which is a music production website, MacBooks are very popular in that field, and basically all audio producers use external audio interfaces, it&amp;#x27;s not an uncommon use case. This is not the first time that this type of issues happens (from memory, last year an OSX update broke compatibility with Native Instruments Maschine, a very popular music software). So I think the point that the article is trying to make, is that music producers are one of the most Apple-leaning crowds, and yet they feel like they are being ignored by Apple. But at the same time I understand your point, this is a small market in the grand scheme of things.</text></item><item><author>komali2</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s a weird glitch, and generally I&amp;#x27;m not a fan of apple hardware (I think it&amp;#x27;s overpriced, that their keyboards suck, that they don&amp;#x27;t have enough ports, and I don&amp;#x27;t enjoy working in osx), but this article comes off as almost biblically haughty. Apple should have tests around clock updates affecting external audio quality? I mean, maybe after this bug being discovered, sure, but before, was that a connection that could have been made in a QA engineers mind? Maybe it is, maybe it&amp;#x27;s fair? I don&amp;#x27;t know anything about manufacturing hardware, but I just find it surprising.&lt;p&gt;Like, off the top of my head, the x1 carbon is still loved by most Linux users (that I have encountered) despite the fact that out of the box, sleep literally does not work on it for Linux systems. You have to install a BIOS update. Yet Lenovo doesn&amp;#x27;t seem to get nearly the attention that apple does for this and the myriad of other mistakes I have discovered with them.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Cthulhu_</author><text>Lots of salt in this thread. I have a Mac because I enjoy it the most for software development. It&amp;#x27;s not a status symbol because, well, almost everyone here has a Mac. The alternatives are Windows-based laptops - who often lag behind software development support (e.g. ports), or Linux which is still just not good enough for desktop use. I use Windows at home for not-development and have used both Windows and Linux for software development so this isn&amp;#x27;t a biased opinion.&lt;p&gt;The hardware budget from my employer also helps.</text></comment>