<story><title>Drone captured by Iran may mean military GPS RSA &quot;red key&quot; has been compromised</title><url>http://cryptome.org/2012/01/0016.htm</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dextorious</author><text>Yeah, but he also adds: &quot;Currently Iran is just the result of what happens if conservative fundamentals got ahold of the government of a country.&quot;&lt;p&gt;Well, not all can be explained by &quot;conservative fundamentals getting ahold of the government&quot;. This amounts to &quot;their people are really like us, it&apos;s their government that&apos;s bad&quot;.&lt;p&gt;There EXIST people/populations/countries that are conservative/unlike Americans in general, and have every right to live however the f&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;* they want to.&lt;p&gt;Western media turn a blind eye to millions of Iranian/whatever people that WANT to live like they do, and RESPECT their country&apos;s ideals, and instead celebrate a few hundred idiots with tweeter accounts and blogs that want to live like westerners and are totally unrepresentative of the general population -- a lot of them sponsored by foreign countries (at least with lectures, sponsorships etc).&lt;p&gt;What exactly is specifically bad about the Iranian government that other countries have not already did, including the US? US has: the death penalty (including teens), segregation until, what, the 60s (!!!), 500% more black people in jail than white, one of the largest prison populations in the world, hollier than thou attitude, tons of fundamentalists and bible yielders, tons of wars around the globe to secure oil and resources, huge corrupted multinationals, some 20% of the population below the poverty line, on of the lamest popular cultures worldwide, PIPA, SOPA, the Patriot Act, detention and/or murder of foreign nationals without trial, etc...</text></item><item><author>yid</author><text>Um...he was actually supporting your point.</text></item><item><author>mahmud</author><text>Do people earn their humanity by their proximity to Standard American Ideals? What about those who are very much unlike Americans? Do you they deserve to get nuked back to the $EPOCH?</text></item><item><author>ck2</author><text>Iran is not some backwater and it&apos;s not north korea.&lt;p&gt;When politicians sing about &quot;bomb Iran&quot; these are the innocent people they are talking about killing&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v6kF8i-mbw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v6kF8i-mbw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/01/a-view-inside-iran/100219/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/01/a-view-inside-ira...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Before 1970 you would not be able to identify pictures of iran from parts of the usa&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pagef30.com/2009/04/iran-in-1970s-before-islamic-revolution.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pagef30.com/2009/04/iran-in-1970s-before-islamic-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Currently Iran is just the result of what happens if conservative fundamentals got ahold of the government of a country.&lt;p&gt;Yeah the nuclear bomb makers and holocaust deniers have to be stopped, but let&apos;s show some care and understanding for innocent people under their rule first.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mseebach</author><text>&amp;#62; millions of Iranian/whatever people that WANT to live like they do&lt;p&gt;It is really not an unreasonable assumption that the population living under a totalitarian regime, does, in fact, not want to.&lt;p&gt;&amp;#62; What exactly is specifically bad about the Iranian government that other countries have not already did, including the US?&lt;p&gt;The rule of law. The rest amounts to rounding errors.</text></comment>
<story><title>Drone captured by Iran may mean military GPS RSA &quot;red key&quot; has been compromised</title><url>http://cryptome.org/2012/01/0016.htm</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dextorious</author><text>Yeah, but he also adds: &quot;Currently Iran is just the result of what happens if conservative fundamentals got ahold of the government of a country.&quot;&lt;p&gt;Well, not all can be explained by &quot;conservative fundamentals getting ahold of the government&quot;. This amounts to &quot;their people are really like us, it&apos;s their government that&apos;s bad&quot;.&lt;p&gt;There EXIST people/populations/countries that are conservative/unlike Americans in general, and have every right to live however the f&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;* they want to.&lt;p&gt;Western media turn a blind eye to millions of Iranian/whatever people that WANT to live like they do, and RESPECT their country&apos;s ideals, and instead celebrate a few hundred idiots with tweeter accounts and blogs that want to live like westerners and are totally unrepresentative of the general population -- a lot of them sponsored by foreign countries (at least with lectures, sponsorships etc).&lt;p&gt;What exactly is specifically bad about the Iranian government that other countries have not already did, including the US? US has: the death penalty (including teens), segregation until, what, the 60s (!!!), 500% more black people in jail than white, one of the largest prison populations in the world, hollier than thou attitude, tons of fundamentalists and bible yielders, tons of wars around the globe to secure oil and resources, huge corrupted multinationals, some 20% of the population below the poverty line, on of the lamest popular cultures worldwide, PIPA, SOPA, the Patriot Act, detention and/or murder of foreign nationals without trial, etc...</text></item><item><author>yid</author><text>Um...he was actually supporting your point.</text></item><item><author>mahmud</author><text>Do people earn their humanity by their proximity to Standard American Ideals? What about those who are very much unlike Americans? Do you they deserve to get nuked back to the $EPOCH?</text></item><item><author>ck2</author><text>Iran is not some backwater and it&apos;s not north korea.&lt;p&gt;When politicians sing about &quot;bomb Iran&quot; these are the innocent people they are talking about killing&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v6kF8i-mbw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v6kF8i-mbw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/01/a-view-inside-iran/100219/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/01/a-view-inside-ira...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Before 1970 you would not be able to identify pictures of iran from parts of the usa&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pagef30.com/2009/04/iran-in-1970s-before-islamic-revolution.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pagef30.com/2009/04/iran-in-1970s-before-islamic-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Currently Iran is just the result of what happens if conservative fundamentals got ahold of the government of a country.&lt;p&gt;Yeah the nuclear bomb makers and holocaust deniers have to be stopped, but let&apos;s show some care and understanding for innocent people under their rule first.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>beagle3</author><text>&amp;#62; What exactly is specifically bad about the Iranian government that other countries have not already did, including the US?&lt;p&gt;Did you notice that Libya, Tunisia and Egypt already had a popular revolution, and that Syria is still having one? Would you have said, 12 months ago, that the majority of Tunisians, Egyptians and Libyans WANT to live like they do, and RESPECT their country&apos;s ideals?&lt;p&gt;If not, why not? and why is Iran different?&lt;p&gt;If so -- then, 12 months later, when you have proof positive that it wasn&apos;t the case 12 months earlier -- why do you think Iran is different (except in the sense that the popular green revolution has not succeeded)</text></comment>