<story><title>French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists</title><url>https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/06/05/criminalization-of-encryption-the-8-december-case/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sofixa</author><text>As others have mentioned, context matters a lot. The arrested group came back from Syria (where they fought alongside YPG against ISIS) radicalised, and were monitored ever since then. Their alleged crime isn&amp;#x27;t using Signal, it&amp;#x27;s just that a French anti-terrorism law allows to be arrested for &amp;quot;organisation with the intent to commit terrorist acts&amp;quot;, which the DGSI(internal intelligence services) claims a radicalised group of people calling for a revolution, using encrypted communications, having a bunch of hunting weapons and ammunition, and materials for explosives is. A big stretch on the surface, but they were monitoring them for years, so who the hell knows what else they have.&lt;p&gt;The real problem is the unlawful detention of one of the men, for which a court finally intervened and he has been freed under surveillance.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>csomar</author><text>&amp;gt; As others have mentioned, context matters a lot.&lt;p&gt;No, it does not. While this group is indeed suspicious, detaining them without a proof (and using whatsapp as your proof) opens a serious precedent. Now anyone can be detain for that. And it&amp;#x27;ll be used for serious suspicious cases later but also will be used against someone like you because someone in the police didn&amp;#x27;t like how you walk.</text></comment>
<story><title>French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists</title><url>https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/06/05/criminalization-of-encryption-the-8-december-case/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sofixa</author><text>As others have mentioned, context matters a lot. The arrested group came back from Syria (where they fought alongside YPG against ISIS) radicalised, and were monitored ever since then. Their alleged crime isn&amp;#x27;t using Signal, it&amp;#x27;s just that a French anti-terrorism law allows to be arrested for &amp;quot;organisation with the intent to commit terrorist acts&amp;quot;, which the DGSI(internal intelligence services) claims a radicalised group of people calling for a revolution, using encrypted communications, having a bunch of hunting weapons and ammunition, and materials for explosives is. A big stretch on the surface, but they were monitoring them for years, so who the hell knows what else they have.&lt;p&gt;The real problem is the unlawful detention of one of the men, for which a court finally intervened and he has been freed under surveillance.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>lannisterstark</author><text>&amp;gt;context matters a lot&lt;p&gt;Not in this current context. You can&amp;#x27;t detain someone willy nilly for &amp;#x27;intentions&amp;#x27; without such intentions being explicitly stated as proof in letters, emails, messages, threats etc.&lt;p&gt;This is authoritarian pandering 101.</text></comment>