<story><title>Tell HN: Full macOS reinstall because Apple ID</title><text>Hello! Just wanted to share what just happened to me, maybe some Apple SWE here can take a look at this. I recently changed my macbook and created a new Apple ID for the new machine. For work, I like to have a unique ID and not reuse old ones. The problem is that, today, after 2 days of &amp;quot;use&amp;quot; (the first time the laptop is charged is to reinstall everything), Apple decided without notification that my account should be blocked for &amp;quot;security reasons&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;I tried to reset my password, but they blocked the whole account, it seems to me that they even deleted the account from the database as they could not locate the ID of other information (name, mail, etc.). Coming from another OS, one can imagine that you can swap two IDs and continue, but ... NO! Here you need to provide a password to log out, but since my account has been deleted, I don&amp;#x27;t have any password. Also, one can imagine that a +2000$ machine designed for &amp;quot;professional&amp;quot; users can actually recover from these types of errors using magic links or text messages. They wanted me to wait for an appointment with the service. Just to reset an account!!&lt;p&gt;Why did I reinstall all? Every 30 seconds, a message appears asking me to check the ID.&lt;p&gt;TL;DR: Adult human crying.</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>sersi</author><text>PSA do not opt to login with your apple ID, it&amp;#x27;s an option when setting up the computer, you should never ever accept it. There&amp;#x27;s no reason to ever accept logging in with a non-local account (same for Windows but Microsoft is much more persistent in forcing this whereas at least it&amp;#x27;s relatively easy to not enable it on macs)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>walrus01</author><text>&amp;gt; PSA do not opt to login with your apple ID, it&amp;#x27;s an option when setting up the computer, you should never ever accept it.&lt;p&gt;It makes me sad that we now have to treat a MacOS initial setup as a hostile experience, the same way as setting up Windows 10 for an offline user account and intentionally not creating a microsoft account. The number of steps and dark pattern UI things a Windows 10 Home or Pro user has to jump through in the initial install to create a local-only account is really quite amazing. I just did a fresh install of a win10 home VM recently and ran into this.&lt;p&gt;Two of the reasons I switched from a FreeBSD desktop environment to MacOS back in the 10.4 days (Tiger?) was because of the switch to the Intel CPUs with the first gen Macbook Pro, and that MacOS had become a fairly refined, polished desktop environment with a CLI, macports, and a decent selection of applications.&lt;p&gt;Not only is apple now &lt;i&gt;hostile&lt;/i&gt; but it&amp;#x27;s actively dangerous and harmful to its users&amp;#x27; data, as shown in the example linked in this post, because if you go with the &amp;quot;online&amp;quot; apple account you risk getting locked out of everything you were using on a regular day-to-day basis.&lt;p&gt;Now if we have to think of Apple as a hostile entity that is doing the same shit as microsoft, it makes me very disappointed.</text></comment>
<story><title>Tell HN: Full macOS reinstall because Apple ID</title><text>Hello! Just wanted to share what just happened to me, maybe some Apple SWE here can take a look at this. I recently changed my macbook and created a new Apple ID for the new machine. For work, I like to have a unique ID and not reuse old ones. The problem is that, today, after 2 days of &amp;quot;use&amp;quot; (the first time the laptop is charged is to reinstall everything), Apple decided without notification that my account should be blocked for &amp;quot;security reasons&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;I tried to reset my password, but they blocked the whole account, it seems to me that they even deleted the account from the database as they could not locate the ID of other information (name, mail, etc.). Coming from another OS, one can imagine that you can swap two IDs and continue, but ... NO! Here you need to provide a password to log out, but since my account has been deleted, I don&amp;#x27;t have any password. Also, one can imagine that a +2000$ machine designed for &amp;quot;professional&amp;quot; users can actually recover from these types of errors using magic links or text messages. They wanted me to wait for an appointment with the service. Just to reset an account!!&lt;p&gt;Why did I reinstall all? Every 30 seconds, a message appears asking me to check the ID.&lt;p&gt;TL;DR: Adult human crying.</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>sersi</author><text>PSA do not opt to login with your apple ID, it&amp;#x27;s an option when setting up the computer, you should never ever accept it. There&amp;#x27;s no reason to ever accept logging in with a non-local account (same for Windows but Microsoft is much more persistent in forcing this whereas at least it&amp;#x27;s relatively easy to not enable it on macs)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>TheRealPomax</author><text>And that goes for Windows, too. Only ever log into your physical, self contained, machine using a normal user account stored on that machine.</text></comment>