<story><title>Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer&apos;s First Impressions</title><url>https://zach.codes/p/a-developers-review-framework-13</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bubblethink</author><text>I have the 845 g9, and I&amp;#x27;m lukewarm about it. It&amp;#x27;s more to do with AMD than HP, but HP also has a few annoyances.&lt;p&gt;- No insert key&lt;p&gt;- No external display before OS. Can&amp;#x27;t do luks password over external monitor.&lt;p&gt;- Miscellaneous AMD bugs: vp9 hw decoding broken, s2idle sleep fails occasionally, gets stuck in lowest frequency sometimes, several others that have slowly been fixed on mainline&lt;p&gt;- Battery life is pretty mediocre. 5-6 hours of browsing, 2-3 hours of video.</text></item><item><author>sva_</author><text>I wonder what kind of battery-life Framework users get?&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve recently gotten an Elitebook 845 G10 which runs on a Ryzen 7 Pro 7840HS, and battery life was at first shit. The issue was with the BIOS being bugged and not allowing ASPM. After manually activating, I now get around 12-15 hours on a 50Wh battery, depending on use of course. Results still preliminary though, more testing needs to be done.&lt;p&gt;Btw, I chose the Elitebook because it actually features great repairability. Pretty much everything can be swapped out, including memory. I was reluctant to buy HP, mostly due to the reputation they earned with their printer business shenanigans, but so far don&amp;#x27;t regret the purchase at all. In fact I like this device more and more.&lt;p&gt;Pretty much everything worked out of the box with ArchLinux, except for ASPM, which I was able to fix within a couple hours.&lt;p&gt;edit: Oh and the main motivation behind preferring the Elitebook over the Framework was the price. I mean really? Upgrade to 7840 almost 400 Euro? Lenovo charges like 80 Euro for that. For 1200 Euro I got the aforementioned CPU with a beautiful 120hz, 500nits, 2560x1600 screen, 2x16GB 5600 DDR5 SO-DIMM, 1TB NVME, etc. But it was a student offer.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>eqvinox</author><text>I have the same laptop, and while the BIOS&amp;#x2F;UEFI indeed doesn&amp;#x27;t activate any external monitors, Linux does it during boot before LUKS password prompt for me… not sure what the difference is?  I&amp;#x27;m on kernel 6.4.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s also a firmware upgrade (the kind in &amp;#x2F;lib&amp;#x2F;firmware, not the kind in flash memory on the card) for the QCNFA765 wifi card that you have to install, which fixes both a lot (probably not all) of the s2idle issues, and gives a little bit of battery life.  I found this out with some s0ix test tool that I now can&amp;#x27;t find…  anyway, it should say in dmesg:&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  ath11k_pci 0000:01:00.0: fw_version 0x110b196e fw_build_timestamp 2022-12-22 12:54 fw_build_id WLAN.HSP.1.1-03125-QCAHSPSWPL_V1_V2_SILICONZ_LITE-3.6510.23
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Also, as some siblings already posted, Insert is on Fn+F10, which does indeed suck…  but funnily enough it is also (undocumented?) on Fn+E, where it was on previous HP Elitebooks.  I find that slightly more useful due to being reachable one-handed…</text></comment>
<story><title>Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer&apos;s First Impressions</title><url>https://zach.codes/p/a-developers-review-framework-13</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bubblethink</author><text>I have the 845 g9, and I&amp;#x27;m lukewarm about it. It&amp;#x27;s more to do with AMD than HP, but HP also has a few annoyances.&lt;p&gt;- No insert key&lt;p&gt;- No external display before OS. Can&amp;#x27;t do luks password over external monitor.&lt;p&gt;- Miscellaneous AMD bugs: vp9 hw decoding broken, s2idle sleep fails occasionally, gets stuck in lowest frequency sometimes, several others that have slowly been fixed on mainline&lt;p&gt;- Battery life is pretty mediocre. 5-6 hours of browsing, 2-3 hours of video.</text></item><item><author>sva_</author><text>I wonder what kind of battery-life Framework users get?&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve recently gotten an Elitebook 845 G10 which runs on a Ryzen 7 Pro 7840HS, and battery life was at first shit. The issue was with the BIOS being bugged and not allowing ASPM. After manually activating, I now get around 12-15 hours on a 50Wh battery, depending on use of course. Results still preliminary though, more testing needs to be done.&lt;p&gt;Btw, I chose the Elitebook because it actually features great repairability. Pretty much everything can be swapped out, including memory. I was reluctant to buy HP, mostly due to the reputation they earned with their printer business shenanigans, but so far don&amp;#x27;t regret the purchase at all. In fact I like this device more and more.&lt;p&gt;Pretty much everything worked out of the box with ArchLinux, except for ASPM, which I was able to fix within a couple hours.&lt;p&gt;edit: Oh and the main motivation behind preferring the Elitebook over the Framework was the price. I mean really? Upgrade to 7840 almost 400 Euro? Lenovo charges like 80 Euro for that. For 1200 Euro I got the aforementioned CPU with a beautiful 120hz, 500nits, 2560x1600 screen, 2x16GB 5600 DDR5 SO-DIMM, 1TB NVME, etc. But it was a student offer.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>sofixa</author><text>&amp;gt; No external display before OS. Can&amp;#x27;t do luks password over external monitor.&lt;p&gt;Just a guess, but is the monitor over HDMI or USB C &amp;#x2F; Thunderbolt? If the later, there may be BIOS settings to enable it before boot is completed (IIRC on Dells it&amp;#x27;s disabled).</text></comment>