<story><title>Can&apos;t Unsee</title><url>https://cantunsee.space/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gbalduzzi</author><text>I found most of this to be quite &amp;quot;objective&amp;quot; and not really related to design decisions.&lt;p&gt;Most of it very subtle, I agree, but I think it&amp;#x27;s hard to argue against any of the questions being subjective.</text></item><item><author>mcint</author><text>I dislike that this elevates, canonizes, design decisions out of context.&lt;p&gt;However, this is how we train machine learning systems. I enjoy this as a social or artistic commentary in that way. How would you like to be trained this way, or what do you learn from being trained this way.&lt;p&gt;It implies, all knowledge is a convention we adopt and the ability to match or reproduce it.&lt;p&gt;---&lt;p&gt;I can do what the task asks, almost entirely, score TDB, but it reminds me of surveys with rigged questions. It&amp;#x27;s &lt;i&gt;technically&lt;/i&gt; correct, &lt;i&gt;technically&lt;/i&gt; a majority of people answered questions in a predictable way, and &amp;quot;predictable&amp;quot; will be argued &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;Searching for fallacy leading questions in surveys, I found
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cagw.org&amp;#x2F;thewastewatcher&amp;#x2F;fallacy-surveys-and-studies&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cagw.org&amp;#x2F;thewastewatcher&amp;#x2F;fallacy-surveys-and-stu...&lt;/a&gt;
examining misleading net neutrality surveys cited in Congress, a mix of topics able to draw discussion.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>smaudet</author><text>As others mentioned there were dark patterns presented as &amp;#x27;more correct&amp;#x27; - there were also several stylistic choices which are entirely subjective - a major one being border radius.&lt;p&gt;Yeah, it looks nice, but so do nice clean rectangular edges. This test is missing context, in that sense it is pretty subjective.&lt;p&gt;Some of the alignment issued were fairly objective, many of them were not, e.g. some vertical alignment ones. Ofc you want consistent alignment, but you simply can&amp;#x27;t look at two images to figure out what is &amp;#x27;correct&amp;#x27;. That&amp;#x27;s a design decision.</text></comment>
<story><title>Can&apos;t Unsee</title><url>https://cantunsee.space/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gbalduzzi</author><text>I found most of this to be quite &amp;quot;objective&amp;quot; and not really related to design decisions.&lt;p&gt;Most of it very subtle, I agree, but I think it&amp;#x27;s hard to argue against any of the questions being subjective.</text></item><item><author>mcint</author><text>I dislike that this elevates, canonizes, design decisions out of context.&lt;p&gt;However, this is how we train machine learning systems. I enjoy this as a social or artistic commentary in that way. How would you like to be trained this way, or what do you learn from being trained this way.&lt;p&gt;It implies, all knowledge is a convention we adopt and the ability to match or reproduce it.&lt;p&gt;---&lt;p&gt;I can do what the task asks, almost entirely, score TDB, but it reminds me of surveys with rigged questions. It&amp;#x27;s &lt;i&gt;technically&lt;/i&gt; correct, &lt;i&gt;technically&lt;/i&gt; a majority of people answered questions in a predictable way, and &amp;quot;predictable&amp;quot; will be argued &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;Searching for fallacy leading questions in surveys, I found
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cagw.org&amp;#x2F;thewastewatcher&amp;#x2F;fallacy-surveys-and-studies&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cagw.org&amp;#x2F;thewastewatcher&amp;#x2F;fallacy-surveys-and-stu...&lt;/a&gt;
examining misleading net neutrality surveys cited in Congress, a mix of topics able to draw discussion.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>threecoins</author><text>Insisting that &amp;quot;last seen 2h ago&amp;quot; online indicator being green and nothing else, requiring border radius for text boxes etc are not objective in any way.</text></comment>