<story><title>Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks</title><url>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHKKcd3sx2c</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>pbnjeh</author><text>Finally, an explanation.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t run around enough to care about quick&amp;#x2F;instant startup. Despite using the Windows 10 Windows menu Power command to &amp;quot;Shut down&amp;quot; my Thinkpad X1C6, I took it out of its bag the following day, on a few not too infrequent occasions, to find it warm and &amp;quot;doing stuff&amp;quot; (Windows Update sticks in my mind). Moreso than a lowered charge, the idea of it cooking itself inside its padded sleeve and bag caused me concern.&lt;p&gt;After a bit of investigation, I settled on training myself to always open&amp;#x2F;use a command window to issue &amp;quot;shutdown &amp;#x2F;s&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;No more warm or hot, drained laptop since then.&lt;p&gt;I agree with Linus: Microsoft&amp;#x27;s behavior and indifference WRT this problem is reprehensible. For me, it is another example of how Microsoft has not -- fundamentally -- changed since its E3 days. The 900 pound gorilla that we will, per force, accommodate. Amazing how entrenched such cultural mindsets are.&lt;p&gt;By the way, the X1C6 as configured by Lenovo does not support S3. Since Linus, in his demo of a possible BIOS configuration change, was using a Thinkpad, maybe I&amp;#x27;ll get lucky with that option -- watch the video to see whether you might have such a fix for your system.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jiggawatts</author><text>You&amp;#x27;re just not understanding &lt;i&gt;the situation&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;Someone in Microsoft has a KPI related to the percentage of machines updated with the latest patches every month.&lt;p&gt;He or she can best meet their KPIs at the low, low cost of the occasional destroyed laptop, fire, or -- &lt;i&gt;very rare&lt;/i&gt; -- customer death.&lt;p&gt;People just have to accept the risk of burning to death so that this person can meet their KPIs by forcefully updating laptops even if they&amp;#x27;re hibernating, in a laptop bag, and in the cargo hold of an airliner.&lt;p&gt;Those passengers knew what they were signing up for when they boarded that plane together with a Windows user.</text></comment>
<story><title>Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks</title><url>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHKKcd3sx2c</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>pbnjeh</author><text>Finally, an explanation.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t run around enough to care about quick&amp;#x2F;instant startup. Despite using the Windows 10 Windows menu Power command to &amp;quot;Shut down&amp;quot; my Thinkpad X1C6, I took it out of its bag the following day, on a few not too infrequent occasions, to find it warm and &amp;quot;doing stuff&amp;quot; (Windows Update sticks in my mind). Moreso than a lowered charge, the idea of it cooking itself inside its padded sleeve and bag caused me concern.&lt;p&gt;After a bit of investigation, I settled on training myself to always open&amp;#x2F;use a command window to issue &amp;quot;shutdown &amp;#x2F;s&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;No more warm or hot, drained laptop since then.&lt;p&gt;I agree with Linus: Microsoft&amp;#x27;s behavior and indifference WRT this problem is reprehensible. For me, it is another example of how Microsoft has not -- fundamentally -- changed since its E3 days. The 900 pound gorilla that we will, per force, accommodate. Amazing how entrenched such cultural mindsets are.&lt;p&gt;By the way, the X1C6 as configured by Lenovo does not support S3. Since Linus, in his demo of a possible BIOS configuration change, was using a Thinkpad, maybe I&amp;#x27;ll get lucky with that option -- watch the video to see whether you might have such a fix for your system.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jscheel</author><text>Perhaps so, but my dang MacBook does the same thing. I have turned off every single thing that I possibly can that would cause it to wake up, and yet I still randomly find it turning on for no reason pretty much every other day. I’ll walk by my study and find it turning on for short periods, I’ve pulled it out of my bag hot as fire, I’ve had it drain the battery in the middle of the night, etc. Looking at the logs, I’ll often see that it just decided to get into a random loop of dark wakes and sleeps. It’s infuriating.</text></comment>