<story><title>Valve joins the Linux Foundation</title><url>http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/12/04/valve-joins-linux-foundation-prepares-linux-powered-steam-os-steam-machines/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>terabytest</author><text>OS X is not a good platform for gaming. It has a significantly smaller user base of which only an even more significantly smaller are gamers. Playing on a MacBook (or at least on my MacBook) is impossible, and I wouldn&amp;#x27;t buy an iMac for gaming.&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, you can put Linux on anything (for free!), from your mom&amp;#x27;s 2002 pc to the latest generation hot stuff. This means there is indeed a potential, and somebody just has to set the foundation.</text></item><item><author>casca</author><text>It will be interesting to see whether Valve can encourage the move to Linux gaming. Their biggest asset at this time is the distribution model of Steam, but that&amp;#x27;s not sufficient to get the big publishers to develop for OSX, never mind Linux.&lt;p&gt;Edit: Valve&amp;#x27;s game list: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.valvesoftware.com/games/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.valvesoftware.com&amp;#x2F;games&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>stinkytaco</author><text>You seem to be contradicting yourself. Gaming doesn&amp;#x27;t work on OS X because it has too small a user base, but Linux&amp;#x27;s user base is much smaller. Playing on a Macbook is impossible (presumably for performance reasons?), but you talk about putting Linux on a 2002 PC for gaming. And Linux may or may not run on the latest generation hot stuff, depending on how much time you want to spend to get your newest graphics card working.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not sure what potential you are talking about. If gaming doesn&amp;#x27;t work on OS X, I can&amp;#x27;t see it working on Linux.&lt;p&gt;As an aside, Linux gaming would seem to me to suffer the same fate as the Android market times about a billion. Too many possible variations and massive platform fragmentation. It sounds like a development nightmare.</text></comment>
<story><title>Valve joins the Linux Foundation</title><url>http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/12/04/valve-joins-linux-foundation-prepares-linux-powered-steam-os-steam-machines/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>terabytest</author><text>OS X is not a good platform for gaming. It has a significantly smaller user base of which only an even more significantly smaller are gamers. Playing on a MacBook (or at least on my MacBook) is impossible, and I wouldn&amp;#x27;t buy an iMac for gaming.&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, you can put Linux on anything (for free!), from your mom&amp;#x27;s 2002 pc to the latest generation hot stuff. This means there is indeed a potential, and somebody just has to set the foundation.</text></item><item><author>casca</author><text>It will be interesting to see whether Valve can encourage the move to Linux gaming. Their biggest asset at this time is the distribution model of Steam, but that&amp;#x27;s not sufficient to get the big publishers to develop for OSX, never mind Linux.&lt;p&gt;Edit: Valve&amp;#x27;s game list: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.valvesoftware.com/games/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.valvesoftware.com&amp;#x2F;games&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dimillian</author><text>You&amp;#x27;ll be amazed on how it has changed. First, latest Macbook are kinda powerful on the GPU side, even with the integrated one, the Intel HD 5000 or Iris can run modern game at low&amp;#x2F;med settings. While it&amp;#x27;s shit for gamers who cares about graphics and performances, for any casual gamers it&amp;#x27;s sufficient. My Macbook is my work machine but also my gaming machine.&lt;p&gt;The other things is about Wine, they&amp;#x27;re working on accelerating the Direct3D driver, and OMG, it&amp;#x27;s soooo fast now.
I&amp;#x27;m running Skyrim on a custom Wine engine (1.7.1 with a patch from the D3D boost branch), on hight&amp;#x2F;ultra settings on my Macbook Retina, It&amp;#x27;s running at 80% of the Windows performance. And it&amp;#x27;s only the beginning, it&amp;#x27;s far from done. 
I also have it running on a friend Macbook Air, it run at medium setting at a solid 30 FPS.&lt;p&gt;My point is that you can actually plays with Macbook nowadays.&lt;p&gt;Edit: The PR from codeweavers is relevant (Especially the part about the Command Stream).
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.codeweavers.com/about/general/press/20131112/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.codeweavers.com&amp;#x2F;about&amp;#x2F;general&amp;#x2F;press&amp;#x2F;20131112&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>