<story><title>Reverse engineering Ticketmaster&apos;s rotating barcodes</title><url>https://conduition.io/coding/ticketmaster/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Loughla</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s the secret.&lt;p&gt;If nobody used them, they would go away.</text></item><item><author>Ocha</author><text>Just vote with your pocket and don’t buy tickets from them. I do that - yes I don’t get to go to major concerts but there are still so much more that is not on ticket master. I found a lot of new entertainment and was happy to pay $4 fee instead of whatever TM charges nowadays.</text></item><item><author>bonestamp2</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s another good point in here. Why do they hold the ticket until just before the event? I bought tickets to a concert for my wife&amp;#x27;s favorite band. Then, my wife&amp;#x27;s work scheduled an event for that same week and she had to leave town. So, what I really wanted was a refund so someone else could buy the tickets. They don&amp;#x27;t do that of course. So, then I wanted to sell the tickets for face value... but ticketmaster didn&amp;#x27;t &amp;quot;deliver&amp;quot; the tickets to my account until the day before the event!&lt;p&gt;I watched for a month leading up to the event as the ticket prices plummeted while the scalpers were desperate to get at least something for their tickets before my ticket was even delivered to me.&lt;p&gt;As soon as they take my money, they should update the database to show that the ticket is mine. If I want to sell it, I should be able to do that immediately too.&lt;p&gt;But, from what I&amp;#x27;ve read, that instant resale ability only belongs to their &amp;quot;partners&amp;quot; who resell a lot of tickets, and you need access to their &amp;quot;TradeDesk&amp;quot; tool to do it: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;tradedesk.ticketmaster.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;tradedesk.ticketmaster.com&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>deamanto</author><text>I&amp;#x27;d also like to highlight another bad practice by Ticketmaster.&lt;p&gt;When you purchase a ticket from them and resell it on their marketplace, once someone purchases it, they(Ticketmaster) hold your funds and only give you the money ~7-14 business days after the event is over. They say this is to verify the validity of the ticket.&lt;p&gt;On the buyer side, you purchase the ticket from the marketplace and it gets added to your account immediately. (I think) You get the barcode some time ~1 week before the actual event begins.&lt;p&gt;The confusion for me? Ticketmaster owned the ticket and all logic relating to the validity of it. The logic to validate this shouldn&amp;#x27;t be complex at all. They OWN the ticket. They KNOW it&amp;#x27;s legitimate because it never left their database. Yet they double dip and hold both buyer and seller funds. Events can be close to a year in the future but the seller won&amp;#x27;t see that until after that event ends.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wrsh07</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s not really possible, because they contractually require venues and performing artists to only perform at their venues&lt;p&gt;This kind of gross exclusionary contract should be illegal (it&amp;#x27;s kinda the same BS that Google does with Android OEMs - contractually force them to [1]), but for some reason antitrust avoided acting on the matter (including allowing acquisitions in the space) for quite some time&lt;p&gt;[1]
&amp;gt; Predicating the availability of any of Google’s apps, including the Google Play Store, on OEMs not taking advantage of the open source nature of Android on devices that will not include Google apps seems much more problematic than Google insisting its apps be distributed in a bundle. The latter is Google’s prerogative; the former is dictating OEM actions just because Google can.
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;stratechery.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;the-european-commission-versus-android&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;stratechery.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;the-european-commission-versus-...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Reverse engineering Ticketmaster&apos;s rotating barcodes</title><url>https://conduition.io/coding/ticketmaster/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Loughla</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s the secret.&lt;p&gt;If nobody used them, they would go away.</text></item><item><author>Ocha</author><text>Just vote with your pocket and don’t buy tickets from them. I do that - yes I don’t get to go to major concerts but there are still so much more that is not on ticket master. I found a lot of new entertainment and was happy to pay $4 fee instead of whatever TM charges nowadays.</text></item><item><author>bonestamp2</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s another good point in here. Why do they hold the ticket until just before the event? I bought tickets to a concert for my wife&amp;#x27;s favorite band. Then, my wife&amp;#x27;s work scheduled an event for that same week and she had to leave town. So, what I really wanted was a refund so someone else could buy the tickets. They don&amp;#x27;t do that of course. So, then I wanted to sell the tickets for face value... but ticketmaster didn&amp;#x27;t &amp;quot;deliver&amp;quot; the tickets to my account until the day before the event!&lt;p&gt;I watched for a month leading up to the event as the ticket prices plummeted while the scalpers were desperate to get at least something for their tickets before my ticket was even delivered to me.&lt;p&gt;As soon as they take my money, they should update the database to show that the ticket is mine. If I want to sell it, I should be able to do that immediately too.&lt;p&gt;But, from what I&amp;#x27;ve read, that instant resale ability only belongs to their &amp;quot;partners&amp;quot; who resell a lot of tickets, and you need access to their &amp;quot;TradeDesk&amp;quot; tool to do it: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;tradedesk.ticketmaster.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;tradedesk.ticketmaster.com&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>deamanto</author><text>I&amp;#x27;d also like to highlight another bad practice by Ticketmaster.&lt;p&gt;When you purchase a ticket from them and resell it on their marketplace, once someone purchases it, they(Ticketmaster) hold your funds and only give you the money ~7-14 business days after the event is over. They say this is to verify the validity of the ticket.&lt;p&gt;On the buyer side, you purchase the ticket from the marketplace and it gets added to your account immediately. (I think) You get the barcode some time ~1 week before the actual event begins.&lt;p&gt;The confusion for me? Ticketmaster owned the ticket and all logic relating to the validity of it. The logic to validate this shouldn&amp;#x27;t be complex at all. They OWN the ticket. They KNOW it&amp;#x27;s legitimate because it never left their database. Yet they double dip and hold both buyer and seller funds. Events can be close to a year in the future but the seller won&amp;#x27;t see that until after that event ends.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mattmaroon</author><text>Our options shouldn’t be see no concerts from successful musicians or pay monopoly pricing. This is something government should solve.</text></comment>