<story><title>Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News</title><url>http://www.scribblrs.com/snowden-stop-relying-facebook-news/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>lake99</author><text>This extreme partisanship is one of the reasons I&amp;#x27;m wary of John Oliver. For example, Politifact, despite its biases or subjectivity, has documented examples of practically every major politian making untrue statements. Including the current POTUS.&lt;p&gt;We need a systemic approach to dealing with lies and untruths of the people who weild power. If you make it partisan, the liar&amp;#x2F;politican will just block you out, and so will their followers.</text></item><item><author>tempestn</author><text>Check out the most recent Last Week tonight.  Features clips of President Elect Trump making almost identical comments.  In March he claimed a man who rushed the stage at one of his rallies had ties to ISIS.  When confronted with the fact that the source he&amp;#x27;d linked to was a hoax, his response was, &amp;quot;What do I know about it?  All I know is it was on the internet.&amp;quot; [1]&lt;p&gt;Then there was an interview with Bill O&amp;#x27;Reilly:
Bill: &amp;quot;You tweeted out that whites killed by blacks - these are statistics you picked up from somewhere - at a rate of 81%.  That&amp;#x27;s totally wrong; whites killed by blacks at a rate of 15%.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Trump: &amp;quot;Hey Bill.  Am I going to check every statistic?  I&amp;#x27;ve got millions of people... you know what? Fine.  But this came out of radio shows and everything else.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Anyway, worth watching the whole show.  It&amp;#x27;s funny, in a painful way.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=-rSDUsMwakI#t=14m45s&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=-rSDUsMwakI#t=14m45s&lt;/a&gt;
[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=-rSDUsMwakI#t=15m20s&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=-rSDUsMwakI#t=15m20s&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>JacobJans</author><text>I have interacted with several people on Facebook who rely on fake news sources.&lt;p&gt;I pointed out fake news articles several times on one person&amp;#x27;s Facebook page. She agreed the articles were not true.&lt;p&gt;However, she added &amp;quot;I don&amp;#x27;t have time to figure out if they&amp;#x27;re true. People can read your comments.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I asked her what she thought of the fact that this particular article, which was blatantly false, was shared 16,000 times.&lt;p&gt;Her response:&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;That&amp;#x27;s comforting.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I was shocked.&lt;p&gt;And yet, that is the reality we now live in. Many, many people are acting, and thinking, exactly like her.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>deno</author><text>Politifact is infamous for their bias. Here’s an example of them rating the same exact statement very differently, depending on who made it:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.politifact.com&amp;#x2F;truth-o-meter&amp;#x2F;statements&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;jul&amp;#x2F;13&amp;#x2F;bernie-s&amp;#x2F;bernie-sanders-says-real-unemployment-rate-african&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.politifact.com&amp;#x2F;truth-o-meter&amp;#x2F;statements&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;jul&amp;#x2F;...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.politifact.com&amp;#x2F;virginia&amp;#x2F;statements&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;jun&amp;#x2F;20&amp;#x2F;donald-trump&amp;#x2F;trump-misleadingly-puts-black-youth-unemployment-r&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.politifact.com&amp;#x2F;virginia&amp;#x2F;statements&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;jun&amp;#x2F;20&amp;#x2F;do...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are numerous studies that also show significant selection bias, that is they cherry-pick statements they fact-check.&lt;p&gt;Politifact itself makes no attempt to evaluate and correct for their own bias. The newspaper that runs it is liberal leaning, and has endorsed Hillary Clinton.&lt;p&gt;Because of the fact that Politifact tries to appear unbiased, their apparent bias is even more disappointing.  Truly neutral fact-checking is something that would be very desirable. Perhaps the only way this will ever happen is by some sort of aggregation of left- and right-leaning “fact-checking.” Sort of like metacritic.</text></comment>
<story><title>Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News</title><url>http://www.scribblrs.com/snowden-stop-relying-facebook-news/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>lake99</author><text>This extreme partisanship is one of the reasons I&amp;#x27;m wary of John Oliver. For example, Politifact, despite its biases or subjectivity, has documented examples of practically every major politian making untrue statements. Including the current POTUS.&lt;p&gt;We need a systemic approach to dealing with lies and untruths of the people who weild power. If you make it partisan, the liar&amp;#x2F;politican will just block you out, and so will their followers.</text></item><item><author>tempestn</author><text>Check out the most recent Last Week tonight.  Features clips of President Elect Trump making almost identical comments.  In March he claimed a man who rushed the stage at one of his rallies had ties to ISIS.  When confronted with the fact that the source he&amp;#x27;d linked to was a hoax, his response was, &amp;quot;What do I know about it?  All I know is it was on the internet.&amp;quot; [1]&lt;p&gt;Then there was an interview with Bill O&amp;#x27;Reilly:
Bill: &amp;quot;You tweeted out that whites killed by blacks - these are statistics you picked up from somewhere - at a rate of 81%.  That&amp;#x27;s totally wrong; whites killed by blacks at a rate of 15%.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Trump: &amp;quot;Hey Bill.  Am I going to check every statistic?  I&amp;#x27;ve got millions of people... you know what? Fine.  But this came out of radio shows and everything else.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Anyway, worth watching the whole show.  It&amp;#x27;s funny, in a painful way.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=-rSDUsMwakI#t=14m45s&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=-rSDUsMwakI#t=14m45s&lt;/a&gt;
[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=-rSDUsMwakI#t=15m20s&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=-rSDUsMwakI#t=15m20s&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>JacobJans</author><text>I have interacted with several people on Facebook who rely on fake news sources.&lt;p&gt;I pointed out fake news articles several times on one person&amp;#x27;s Facebook page. She agreed the articles were not true.&lt;p&gt;However, she added &amp;quot;I don&amp;#x27;t have time to figure out if they&amp;#x27;re true. People can read your comments.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I asked her what she thought of the fact that this particular article, which was blatantly false, was shared 16,000 times.&lt;p&gt;Her response:&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;That&amp;#x27;s comforting.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I was shocked.&lt;p&gt;And yet, that is the reality we now live in. Many, many people are acting, and thinking, exactly like her.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>nosequel</author><text>To be fair to John Oliver, in the episode he points out stuff from both sides, calling out how many fact news articles are left-leaning.  He also points out his own show&amp;#x27;s bias and mentions Politifact in his episode. To be fair also to John Oliver, Bill Oreilly calling out Trump for not checking facts &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; amazing, and Trump saying he has no time to check facts is even more amazingly scary.</text></comment>