<story><title>To make dishwashers great again? (2020)</title><url>https://www.greenbuildinglawupdate.com/2020/11/articles/environmental/to-make-dishwashers-great-again/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>thiht</author><text>I don’t understand how this is a problem that I don’t have.&lt;p&gt;I bought a new dishwasher like 2 months ago and it’s the best I’ve ever had. The eco mode works great. A few times I’ve had very greasy pans so I switched to the 60°C mode instead and it’s great. My dishes are very clean.&lt;p&gt;Do y’all use the correct amount of detergent? Regenerating salts, with the correct setting ? Rinsing fluid? Do you correctly put the detergent in the trap and not directly in the dishwasher? (I’ve seen tons of people do that, of course it doesn’t work, all the detergent is used in the prewash) Do you organize it correctly?&lt;p&gt;If so there’s no reason for a dishwasher to not do it’s job.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>seszett</author><text>The topic of dishwashers comes up regularly on HN and it&amp;#x27;s always the same, comments are mostly filled by people complaining about dishwashers not working well, environmental regulation, etc.&lt;p&gt;I assume most people who don&amp;#x27;t actually have a problem just don&amp;#x27;t comment.&lt;p&gt;Anyway, for another datapoint I have a rather recent dishwasher (in the EU) and it works about as well as the older dishwasher I had before, or the one my parents had 20 years ago. It does take 4 hours to run a load, which is fine, I&amp;#x27;ve always run my dishwashers at night so I&amp;#x27;m not even sure how long it took the others.&lt;p&gt;So I don&amp;#x27;t think they&amp;#x27;re getting worse. But as a sibling comment said, I wish the buttons were more responsive, not sure why it takes about two seconds for the thing to wake up after pressing the power button.</text></comment>
<story><title>To make dishwashers great again? (2020)</title><url>https://www.greenbuildinglawupdate.com/2020/11/articles/environmental/to-make-dishwashers-great-again/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>thiht</author><text>I don’t understand how this is a problem that I don’t have.&lt;p&gt;I bought a new dishwasher like 2 months ago and it’s the best I’ve ever had. The eco mode works great. A few times I’ve had very greasy pans so I switched to the 60°C mode instead and it’s great. My dishes are very clean.&lt;p&gt;Do y’all use the correct amount of detergent? Regenerating salts, with the correct setting ? Rinsing fluid? Do you correctly put the detergent in the trap and not directly in the dishwasher? (I’ve seen tons of people do that, of course it doesn’t work, all the detergent is used in the prewash) Do you organize it correctly?&lt;p&gt;If so there’s no reason for a dishwasher to not do it’s job.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>leoedin</author><text>I live in the UK, so our appliance standards are different. However, I just looked at my current dishwasher - it uses 0.85 kWh&amp;#x2F;cycle and 11.5L per cycle. I think the assumption in the US is 215 cycles a year - so that means 183 kWh&amp;#x2F;year and 3 gallons &amp;#x2F; cycle. That seems to be less than this limit.&lt;p&gt;And, it&amp;#x27;s totally fine? It cleans dishes. It takes a few hours - but then it&amp;#x27;s pretty rare I need all my dishes immediately anyway. I&amp;#x27;ve got enough so even if it&amp;#x27;s full there&amp;#x27;s a glass or a plate available. I use the all in one tablets - it has a special tablet mode that opens the door pretty much immediately. I never pre-rinse plates. I think I clean the filters every 3-6 months under the kitchen tap. Takes about 2 minutes.&lt;p&gt;This article seems to be conservatism (in the sense of &amp;quot;change is bad&amp;quot;) for the sake of it.</text></comment>