<story><title>Chase did a bad thing, so we did a good thing</title><url>https://www.chaseoptout.com/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mjkornbl</author><text>Radvocate here: 
We do have a vested interest. Over time, we want to be the place you come when you have a dispute against a big company because we&amp;#x27;ll fight hard for you.&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#x27;re excited to partner on this project partly because it is very &amp;quot;on brand&amp;quot; for us from that perspective — we can help people, get our name out there, and shine light on an issue that matters to us. We&amp;#x27;re a business, but we&amp;#x27;re also all in this business (instead of some other business) because we want to make the system fairer for consumers.&lt;p&gt;ETA: Also, to correct one misapprehension: we are not in the class action business. We actually help consumers pursue individual arbitrations. We think more people should know that even if their contract doesn&amp;#x27;t let them sue, they actually do have a way to assert their power through arbitration. If anything, we&amp;#x27;ll have more customers for our current business if no one opts out of their Chase clause.</text></item><item><author>rkhassen</author><text>For me the red flag is them willing to send this letter to Chase, via snail mail at no charge to you. Nobody gives something for nothing. So I thought, why would they do this? after reading through the form, at the bottom, it looks like one of the companies, who sponsors this site, &amp;quot;Radvocate&amp;quot; seems like they are in the &amp;quot;class action&amp;quot; lawsuit business. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;myradvocate.com&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;myradvocate.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;This site is about having enough potential clients are able to sue Chase at some point in the future, whenever a class action lawsuit comes up - and heck, they even will have a customer list and a relationship with you from sending this &amp;quot;free&amp;quot; letter for you in the past.&lt;p&gt;Usually in those kinds of cases, the end recipient gets very little - perhaps some subscription to a ID protection service or a few bucks but the firm who runs the class action makes a lot.&lt;p&gt;On the one hand, maybe it helps keep them honest (they cite Wells Fargo) so its good to be able to. But clearly there is some vested interest here on the part of Radvocate.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>pkfrank</author><text>Bravo.  In my view, this connection and upside was made appropriately-clear in the &amp;quot;Who are you and why did you build this?&amp;quot; section, and the context from the logo attached to the site.&lt;p&gt;Very clever marketing, good on you for managing this, and I hope you see a great return for your efforts.</text></comment>
<story><title>Chase did a bad thing, so we did a good thing</title><url>https://www.chaseoptout.com/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mjkornbl</author><text>Radvocate here: 
We do have a vested interest. Over time, we want to be the place you come when you have a dispute against a big company because we&amp;#x27;ll fight hard for you.&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#x27;re excited to partner on this project partly because it is very &amp;quot;on brand&amp;quot; for us from that perspective — we can help people, get our name out there, and shine light on an issue that matters to us. We&amp;#x27;re a business, but we&amp;#x27;re also all in this business (instead of some other business) because we want to make the system fairer for consumers.&lt;p&gt;ETA: Also, to correct one misapprehension: we are not in the class action business. We actually help consumers pursue individual arbitrations. We think more people should know that even if their contract doesn&amp;#x27;t let them sue, they actually do have a way to assert their power through arbitration. If anything, we&amp;#x27;ll have more customers for our current business if no one opts out of their Chase clause.</text></item><item><author>rkhassen</author><text>For me the red flag is them willing to send this letter to Chase, via snail mail at no charge to you. Nobody gives something for nothing. So I thought, why would they do this? after reading through the form, at the bottom, it looks like one of the companies, who sponsors this site, &amp;quot;Radvocate&amp;quot; seems like they are in the &amp;quot;class action&amp;quot; lawsuit business. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;myradvocate.com&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;myradvocate.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;This site is about having enough potential clients are able to sue Chase at some point in the future, whenever a class action lawsuit comes up - and heck, they even will have a customer list and a relationship with you from sending this &amp;quot;free&amp;quot; letter for you in the past.&lt;p&gt;Usually in those kinds of cases, the end recipient gets very little - perhaps some subscription to a ID protection service or a few bucks but the firm who runs the class action makes a lot.&lt;p&gt;On the one hand, maybe it helps keep them honest (they cite Wells Fargo) so its good to be able to. But clearly there is some vested interest here on the part of Radvocate.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rkhassen</author><text>Good points and I appreciate what you write here.&lt;p&gt;And an interesting business concept - to help consumers pursue individual arbitrations. That could be really cool especially against large corporations when they are abusive. What do you charge as people go through their individual arbitration process&amp;#x2F; how does the profit model work?&lt;p&gt;I really have mixed feelings about the legal system - on&lt;p&gt;Also, Radvocate, wondering if you can address the PII concerns other&amp;#x27;s have raised, as that is a very big deal.</text></comment>