<story><title>The fight over the sugar industry&apos;s influence on nutrition research</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/23/17039780/sugar-industry-conspiracy-heart-disease-research-mark-hegsted-harvard</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gameswithgo</author><text>People trying to lose weight imagine so many ways to believe this is true.
Yes there are many details about nutrient profiles and how types of foods affect hunger levels and metabolism and so on.&lt;p&gt;but the &lt;i&gt;first order&lt;/i&gt; thing to do, if you want to weigh less, is put less stuff in your mouth, and move around more. all the rest are 2nd and 3rd order details.</text></item><item><author>AnIdiotOnTheNet</author><text>Sure, but you could shorten it to &amp;quot;Eating will help you lose weight&amp;quot; and that&amp;#x27;d still be true.</text></item><item><author>village-idiot</author><text>&amp;quot;Eating sugar will help you lose weight&amp;quot; has got to be up there for the most bold faced lies of the decade, if not the century.</text></item><item><author>will_brown</author><text>This Time article details enforcement action by the FTC against a sugar industry ad campaign for their fake claims:  &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;amp.timeinc.net&amp;#x2F;time&amp;#x2F;4088772&amp;#x2F;sugar-information-history&amp;#x2F;%3fsource=dam&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;amp.timeinc.net&amp;#x2F;time&amp;#x2F;4088772&amp;#x2F;suga...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;It’s pretty good as it includes some of the original ads...”sugar is part of a balanced diet” “sugar doesn’t just fast good, it’s good food” “eating sugar will help you lose weight”.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bena</author><text>Simple, but not easy.&lt;p&gt;Smokers can stop smoking.
Drinkers can stop drinking.
Gamblers can stop gambling.&lt;p&gt;Over-eaters cannot stop eating.&lt;p&gt;Eating is sort of a prerequisite for survival. It&amp;#x27;s weird that we have this complete blindspot with regards to people with unhealthy relationships with food when we show a lot more compassion for other kinds of addicts. But the things most addicts get addicted to is completely voluntary. Food is one of the few vices that you are required to participate in to some degree. You tell an alcoholic just &amp;quot;to drink less&amp;quot; and you&amp;#x27;re the asshole. And rightly so. They have a problem. It&amp;#x27;s best for them to avoid the source. But we find it perfectly acceptable to tell people with food addictions to &amp;quot;eat less&amp;quot;. Why is that?&lt;p&gt;So, it is understandable why people would like to find a way that can make it easier. Either a way to make what they have ingested not count, a way to ingest the same amount but get fewer calories from every ounce, etc.&lt;p&gt;And even your advice is wrong. Moving around more doesn&amp;#x27;t move the needle enough. &amp;quot;You can&amp;#x27;t outrun your mouth&amp;quot;.</text></comment>
<story><title>The fight over the sugar industry&apos;s influence on nutrition research</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/23/17039780/sugar-industry-conspiracy-heart-disease-research-mark-hegsted-harvard</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gameswithgo</author><text>People trying to lose weight imagine so many ways to believe this is true.
Yes there are many details about nutrient profiles and how types of foods affect hunger levels and metabolism and so on.&lt;p&gt;but the &lt;i&gt;first order&lt;/i&gt; thing to do, if you want to weigh less, is put less stuff in your mouth, and move around more. all the rest are 2nd and 3rd order details.</text></item><item><author>AnIdiotOnTheNet</author><text>Sure, but you could shorten it to &amp;quot;Eating will help you lose weight&amp;quot; and that&amp;#x27;d still be true.</text></item><item><author>village-idiot</author><text>&amp;quot;Eating sugar will help you lose weight&amp;quot; has got to be up there for the most bold faced lies of the decade, if not the century.</text></item><item><author>will_brown</author><text>This Time article details enforcement action by the FTC against a sugar industry ad campaign for their fake claims:  &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;amp.timeinc.net&amp;#x2F;time&amp;#x2F;4088772&amp;#x2F;sugar-information-history&amp;#x2F;%3fsource=dam&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;amp.timeinc.net&amp;#x2F;time&amp;#x2F;4088772&amp;#x2F;suga...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;It’s pretty good as it includes some of the original ads...”sugar is part of a balanced diet” “sugar doesn’t just fast good, it’s good food” “eating sugar will help you lose weight”.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>amanaplanacanal</author><text>Those details are important, though. If what you are eating is increasing your hunger levels, most people are going to go with the built-in hunger, rather than whatever their app is telling them they should be eating. Bet on millions of years of evolution over reason every time.</text></comment>