<story><title>SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”</title><url>https://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Someone1234</author><text>&amp;gt; I&amp;#x27;m not saying he can do no wrong, but I&amp;#x27;m just flabbergasted that there are still so many armchair critics and naysayers when it comes to Elon Musk.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s why you&amp;#x27;re a fanboy. Nobody is perfect, and Elon Musk likes to make fun of the competition quite publicly when they have an issue, while ignoring his project&amp;#x27;s own failures.&lt;p&gt;It is hard to even discuss the man on HN as anything that could even be taken as critical gets downmoded or flagged. Just look at yesterday&amp;#x27;s hyperloop discussions, nobody could say anything critical without being very actively attacked. By the way make sure &amp;quot;show dead&amp;quot; is turned on to see the full discussion.&lt;p&gt;Honestly his track record is very impressive indeed. His aspirations are also impressive. However his fans are insufferable as is HN&amp;#x27;s general attitude about the man. When someone is treated as if they&amp;#x27;re beyond reproach and their ideas are also, you&amp;#x27;re just asking to get led down the garden path.&lt;p&gt;The hyperhoop concept in particular is pretty bad, and the white paper leaves more questions than it does answers. The cost is too high and the value too low Vs. normal high speed trains (e.g. Japan). Plus there are massive safety issues surrounding it (as you can see from the thread yesterday, that were largely just ignored and downmodded).&lt;p&gt;Overall I&amp;#x27;ll be happy when people start acting rationally around the guy again. Currently I feel like I at a One Direction concert surrounding by a bunch of screaming teenage girls (on HN in particular).&lt;p&gt;PS - I wouldn&amp;#x27;t dream of criticising this rocket failure. Rockets are hard, the last 80 years have proven that again and again.</text></item><item><author>sixQuarks</author><text>Sorry for sounding like such a fanboy, but during my 40 years on this earth, I have never been more impressed with a human being.&lt;p&gt;The guy is pushing the envelope on perhaps the most difficult engineering&amp;#x2F;technological endeavor ever attempted by a private company - and he&amp;#x27;s making it look cool and futuristic.&lt;p&gt;As if that wasn&amp;#x27;t enough, he&amp;#x27;s doing this in two different industries simultaneously.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not saying he can do no wrong, but I&amp;#x27;m just flabbergasted that there are still so many armchair critics and naysayers when it comes to Elon Musk.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>SEJeff</author><text>Not sure what you&amp;#x27;re saying reflects reality. When Orbital Science&amp;#x27;s rocket recently exploded, Elon&amp;#x27;s words were nothing but polite:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/527247155954610176&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;elonmusk&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;527247155954610176&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;And his comment on their rocket being the butt of a joke, using engines literally made in the 1960s and stored in Siberia were true. It is upsetting, but still not as surprising that they suffered catastrophic failure having such an adversion to new tech.</text></comment>
<story><title>SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time”</title><url>https://vine.co/v/OjqeYWWpVWK</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Someone1234</author><text>&amp;gt; I&amp;#x27;m not saying he can do no wrong, but I&amp;#x27;m just flabbergasted that there are still so many armchair critics and naysayers when it comes to Elon Musk.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s why you&amp;#x27;re a fanboy. Nobody is perfect, and Elon Musk likes to make fun of the competition quite publicly when they have an issue, while ignoring his project&amp;#x27;s own failures.&lt;p&gt;It is hard to even discuss the man on HN as anything that could even be taken as critical gets downmoded or flagged. Just look at yesterday&amp;#x27;s hyperloop discussions, nobody could say anything critical without being very actively attacked. By the way make sure &amp;quot;show dead&amp;quot; is turned on to see the full discussion.&lt;p&gt;Honestly his track record is very impressive indeed. His aspirations are also impressive. However his fans are insufferable as is HN&amp;#x27;s general attitude about the man. When someone is treated as if they&amp;#x27;re beyond reproach and their ideas are also, you&amp;#x27;re just asking to get led down the garden path.&lt;p&gt;The hyperhoop concept in particular is pretty bad, and the white paper leaves more questions than it does answers. The cost is too high and the value too low Vs. normal high speed trains (e.g. Japan). Plus there are massive safety issues surrounding it (as you can see from the thread yesterday, that were largely just ignored and downmodded).&lt;p&gt;Overall I&amp;#x27;ll be happy when people start acting rationally around the guy again. Currently I feel like I at a One Direction concert surrounding by a bunch of screaming teenage girls (on HN in particular).&lt;p&gt;PS - I wouldn&amp;#x27;t dream of criticising this rocket failure. Rockets are hard, the last 80 years have proven that again and again.</text></item><item><author>sixQuarks</author><text>Sorry for sounding like such a fanboy, but during my 40 years on this earth, I have never been more impressed with a human being.&lt;p&gt;The guy is pushing the envelope on perhaps the most difficult engineering&amp;#x2F;technological endeavor ever attempted by a private company - and he&amp;#x27;s making it look cool and futuristic.&lt;p&gt;As if that wasn&amp;#x27;t enough, he&amp;#x27;s doing this in two different industries simultaneously.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not saying he can do no wrong, but I&amp;#x27;m just flabbergasted that there are still so many armchair critics and naysayers when it comes to Elon Musk.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>iamcreasy</author><text>Well, Elon Musk said talking about hyperloop was like shooting his own foot. It was a premature idea.&lt;p&gt;But the interesting part is some(more than some) people are actually trying trying to come up with a real world implementations of hyperloop and so far their verdict is &amp;#x27;it&amp;#x27;s doable&amp;#x27; and they are working on it. And these people are engineers from reputed companies around the world.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t particularly like the concept of fan boy either, but like you said, this man has impressive track records. And that&amp;#x27;s absolutely brilliant.&lt;p&gt;The thing that intrigues me is in the new innovations he had in his rocket, and why NASA didn&amp;#x27;t have it before SpaceX.</text></comment>