<story><title>Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8</title><url>http://www.hostingadvice.com/blog/vim-creator-champions-charityware/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>owaislone</author><text>Neovim is Vim for me and many other users. Vim is irrelevant to me now. The community is rallying behind Neovim and it shows great potential. It just needs to be bundled by major distros so it can be installed on servers with 1 command and that&amp;#x27;ll be the end of old Vim. Bram has done a tremendous job with Vim but it&amp;#x27;s time to move on to the Vim of the future.</text></item><item><author>akkartik</author><text>Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>falcolas</author><text>Speaking solely as an outsider to the development of Vim, NeoVim, and Vim extensions - the only time I see references to NeoVim anymore is when someone else brings up regular Vim (and always includes the narrow-sighted rant of &amp;quot;vim is obsolete, neovim is the future&amp;quot;).&lt;p&gt;Threads here imply that NeoVim has a lot more traction and capabilities than Vim, yet it might as well not exist for all that we don&amp;#x27;t hear about it.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; that&amp;#x27;ll be the end of old Vim&lt;p&gt;To be frank, no, it won&amp;#x27;t. Not so long as Vim is installed by default, and holds the name Vim. NeoVim can&amp;#x27;t even simply replace Vim as the default, since it works differently (the changed configuration path, for one), and no longer works on all of the platforms that operating systems are installed upon (even if intentionally).&lt;p&gt;Vim &lt;i&gt;just works&lt;/i&gt;. Until that is no longer the case, NeoVim will have a hard time gaining traction outside of those who are already waving its flag.&lt;p&gt;That said, I appreciate NeoVim - if for nothing else - for prompting Bram to realize there are more usecases. But I would argue that its time has passed, as bright as that time was.</text></comment>
<story><title>Bram Moolenaar Discusses Developing Vim, How He Uses It, and Version 8</title><url>http://www.hostingadvice.com/blog/vim-creator-champions-charityware/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>owaislone</author><text>Neovim is Vim for me and many other users. Vim is irrelevant to me now. The community is rallying behind Neovim and it shows great potential. It just needs to be bundled by major distros so it can be installed on servers with 1 command and that&amp;#x27;ll be the end of old Vim. Bram has done a tremendous job with Vim but it&amp;#x27;s time to move on to the Vim of the future.</text></item><item><author>akkartik</author><text>Has Bram Moolenaar ever publicly acknowledged the influence of Neovim on Vim 8? At the very least, Neovim provided the market research to show that async was worth doing.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mcjiggerlog</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve never touched neovim as I&amp;#x27;m perfectly happy with vim - what reasons are there for me to consider making the switch?&lt;p&gt;I would guess neovim isn&amp;#x27;t even on the radar of most vim users. I don&amp;#x27;t see neovim surpassing vim any time soon, personally.</text></comment>