<story><title>Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies</title><url>https://twitter.com/ctavan/status/1044282084020441088</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>drawkbox</author><text>Another confirmation that engineers and product developers are no longer in control at Google.&lt;p&gt;Engineering and product first is how Google won the game initially, very easy to forget that when the money rolls in massively and the power structures move away from those driving forces.&lt;p&gt;Microsoft already went through this engineering&amp;#x2F;product growth to bizdev&amp;#x2F;marketing control to stagnation and is already in the return to engineering&amp;#x2F;product first phase. Basically their own Ballmer era is what Google is entering.&lt;p&gt;Bizdev + marketing are hugely important, but the products and engineering need to be the focus. It is much easier to bizdev and market a product and engineering led system&amp;#x2F;focus, though success through this is always forgotten when massive success comes around because engineering&amp;#x2F;research and development are hard to quantify and put metrics to which the power structures move away from.&lt;p&gt;Let&amp;#x27;s hope there are factions of engineering&amp;#x2F;product focused people in Google that can gain back control.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Pxtl</author><text>I assume this is the engineering at work.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Okay, users are confused by how they&amp;#x27;re logged into Google but not Chrome, or Chrome but not Google - let&amp;#x27;s make them one and the same&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Okay, but once you&amp;#x27;re logged into Chrome now, every post we check to see if we have the Google cookies to keep that sync... so that means when you clear the cookies the Google ones will automagically reappear&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Ugh, let&amp;#x27;s just notify the user that clearing the cookies won&amp;#x27;t clear the Google ones&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Yeah, that works&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;Come on, we&amp;#x27;re all developers here, we all know how these conversations work.</text></comment>
<story><title>Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies</title><url>https://twitter.com/ctavan/status/1044282084020441088</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>drawkbox</author><text>Another confirmation that engineers and product developers are no longer in control at Google.&lt;p&gt;Engineering and product first is how Google won the game initially, very easy to forget that when the money rolls in massively and the power structures move away from those driving forces.&lt;p&gt;Microsoft already went through this engineering&amp;#x2F;product growth to bizdev&amp;#x2F;marketing control to stagnation and is already in the return to engineering&amp;#x2F;product first phase. Basically their own Ballmer era is what Google is entering.&lt;p&gt;Bizdev + marketing are hugely important, but the products and engineering need to be the focus. It is much easier to bizdev and market a product and engineering led system&amp;#x2F;focus, though success through this is always forgotten when massive success comes around because engineering&amp;#x2F;research and development are hard to quantify and put metrics to which the power structures move away from.&lt;p&gt;Let&amp;#x27;s hope there are factions of engineering&amp;#x2F;product focused people in Google that can gain back control.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mannykannot</author><text>The idea that technical people are all impeccably ethical is not very plausible. Consider the scientists who promoted the claim that smoking was harmless long after it clearly was not, the engineers who concocted VW&amp;#x27;s diesel-emissions fraud, and the developers who produced Madoff&amp;#x27;s fake accounting. And, of course, this particular deception is hardly the first fall from grace on the internet.</text></comment>