<story><title>Linux Touchpad Like MacBook Update: 2023 Progress on Smooth Scrolling</title><url>https://www.gitclear.com/blog/linux_touchpad_like_macbook_2023_update_smooth_scroll</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>TonyTrapp</author><text>&amp;gt; Even more interesting is when I see my partner try to do something on my Mac using a trackpad, he seems... apprehensive? Like he is so afraid of doing the wrong thing and for me this trackpad has never done something I didn&amp;#x27;t want it to do. Like without even thinking about it while I was re-reading this comment, I had fingers just resting on my trackpad.&lt;p&gt;I think I&amp;#x27;ll never &amp;quot;get&amp;quot; drag&amp;amp;drop on MacBook touchpads. Every time I try to do it, I accidentally open the file info, or the touchpad is too small to actually reach the place where I want to drop the file to. It is absolutely doing things I don&amp;#x27;t want it to do. I absolutely dread having to use the touchpad. (that applies to other laptops too, though)</text></item><item><author>nerdjon</author><text>It is an interesting thing to think about, I have friends that use Windows that are shocked that I willingly chose to get an external trackpad when I use my Mac as desktop.&lt;p&gt;Even more interesting is when I see my partner try to do something on my Mac using a trackpad, he seems... apprehensive? Like he is so afraid of doing the wrong thing and for me this trackpad has never done something I didn&amp;#x27;t want it to do. Like without even thinking about it while I was re-reading this comment, I had fingers just resting on my trackpad.&lt;p&gt;It has to be a combination of software and hardware. Likely shared software and hardware.&lt;p&gt;Like is wrist detection on the trackpad the same as the wrist detection on an iPad?&lt;p&gt;I believe that the 3D Touch tech that was once in the iPhone is the same tech that is in the track pad and the Apple Watch.&lt;p&gt;We saw them use the same (or similar) tech on the iPhone home button when they removed the physical button.&lt;p&gt;Is the multitouch functionality of the trackpad the same technology as in iPhones and iPads?&lt;p&gt;I am genuinely curious about some of these because they feel like the same technology from the outside looking in and it would explain a lot about why it works as well as it does.&lt;p&gt;And yeah on the ROI, I mean they sell a $130 external trackpad... that I had zero qualms about buying. Because when using my MacBook Pro as a laptop I heavily rely on gestures. Those gestures only work if the trackpad is as perfect as it can be. But those gestures is also software.</text></item><item><author>al_borland</author><text>Why does this seem like such a hard problem to solve for everyone that isn’t Apple, when Apple seemingly solved the Trackpad over a decade ago?&lt;p&gt;Is this it? An unknown ROI?&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;the highly uncertain ROI for trying to align touchpad acceleration has prevented us from proposing a system change to the default Linux settings.&lt;p&gt;I can only speak for myself, but I gave up using trackpads on anything that isn’t a MacBook many years ago. Very occasionally I’ll try them and have always been disappointed. This prevents me from buying any laptop that isn’t a Mac and prevents me from running any OS that isn’t macOS on a laptop. I can’t be the only person who prioritizes the quality and feel of input devices when choosing a system. If this can make or break sales and adoption, it seems like the ROI would be pretty good. Even if we are just talking about Java app, if I’m using an obviously Java app that feels like a clunky Java app, I’ll usually find an alternative app that doesn’t feel horrible to use.&lt;p&gt;I’m glad progress is being made, but I struggle to understand why it’s still a problem at all when it’s been so good for so long with Apple. They even sell Bluetooth trackpads for desktops it’s so good.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>nerdjon</author><text>Since you mention the touchpad being too small, are you trying to drag and drop with one finger or multiple?&lt;p&gt;What I always just do is click with my thumb and move around with my other fingers. As long as my thumb stays down it stays selected. Then just a few quick swipes with my finger gets whatever it is I am selecting where I want to go.&lt;p&gt;Same works for windows and anything you click and drag. Admittedly there is a quirk here that I have noticed, if for some reason I click and try to drag with the same finger, I then can&amp;#x27;t switch to dragging around with a different finger.&lt;p&gt;But personally I treat my thumb just resting no the track pad as my click finger and move&amp;#x2F;gesture with my other fingers.</text></comment>
<story><title>Linux Touchpad Like MacBook Update: 2023 Progress on Smooth Scrolling</title><url>https://www.gitclear.com/blog/linux_touchpad_like_macbook_2023_update_smooth_scroll</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>TonyTrapp</author><text>&amp;gt; Even more interesting is when I see my partner try to do something on my Mac using a trackpad, he seems... apprehensive? Like he is so afraid of doing the wrong thing and for me this trackpad has never done something I didn&amp;#x27;t want it to do. Like without even thinking about it while I was re-reading this comment, I had fingers just resting on my trackpad.&lt;p&gt;I think I&amp;#x27;ll never &amp;quot;get&amp;quot; drag&amp;amp;drop on MacBook touchpads. Every time I try to do it, I accidentally open the file info, or the touchpad is too small to actually reach the place where I want to drop the file to. It is absolutely doing things I don&amp;#x27;t want it to do. I absolutely dread having to use the touchpad. (that applies to other laptops too, though)</text></item><item><author>nerdjon</author><text>It is an interesting thing to think about, I have friends that use Windows that are shocked that I willingly chose to get an external trackpad when I use my Mac as desktop.&lt;p&gt;Even more interesting is when I see my partner try to do something on my Mac using a trackpad, he seems... apprehensive? Like he is so afraid of doing the wrong thing and for me this trackpad has never done something I didn&amp;#x27;t want it to do. Like without even thinking about it while I was re-reading this comment, I had fingers just resting on my trackpad.&lt;p&gt;It has to be a combination of software and hardware. Likely shared software and hardware.&lt;p&gt;Like is wrist detection on the trackpad the same as the wrist detection on an iPad?&lt;p&gt;I believe that the 3D Touch tech that was once in the iPhone is the same tech that is in the track pad and the Apple Watch.&lt;p&gt;We saw them use the same (or similar) tech on the iPhone home button when they removed the physical button.&lt;p&gt;Is the multitouch functionality of the trackpad the same technology as in iPhones and iPads?&lt;p&gt;I am genuinely curious about some of these because they feel like the same technology from the outside looking in and it would explain a lot about why it works as well as it does.&lt;p&gt;And yeah on the ROI, I mean they sell a $130 external trackpad... that I had zero qualms about buying. Because when using my MacBook Pro as a laptop I heavily rely on gestures. Those gestures only work if the trackpad is as perfect as it can be. But those gestures is also software.</text></item><item><author>al_borland</author><text>Why does this seem like such a hard problem to solve for everyone that isn’t Apple, when Apple seemingly solved the Trackpad over a decade ago?&lt;p&gt;Is this it? An unknown ROI?&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;the highly uncertain ROI for trying to align touchpad acceleration has prevented us from proposing a system change to the default Linux settings.&lt;p&gt;I can only speak for myself, but I gave up using trackpads on anything that isn’t a MacBook many years ago. Very occasionally I’ll try them and have always been disappointed. This prevents me from buying any laptop that isn’t a Mac and prevents me from running any OS that isn’t macOS on a laptop. I can’t be the only person who prioritizes the quality and feel of input devices when choosing a system. If this can make or break sales and adoption, it seems like the ROI would be pretty good. Even if we are just talking about Java app, if I’m using an obviously Java app that feels like a clunky Java app, I’ll usually find an alternative app that doesn’t feel horrible to use.&lt;p&gt;I’m glad progress is being made, but I struggle to understand why it’s still a problem at all when it’s been so good for so long with Apple. They even sell Bluetooth trackpads for desktops it’s so good.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jxdxbx</author><text>I love drag-and-dropping to arbitrary locations in the Finder using spring-loaded folders.  I think it is a bit tricky…if you don’t know the trick.</text></comment>