<story><title>Developing a new app is unreasonable condition that Apple imposes on dating apps</title><url>https://www.acm.nl/en/publications/acm-developing-new-app-unnecessary-and-unreasonable-condition-apple-imposes-dating-app-providers</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>RIMR</author><text>This is a little bit overdramatic, given that they only exert that kind of control over the frameworks that they wholly own and control.&lt;p&gt;Nobody ever accused Microsoft or Sony of &amp;quot;getting to decide what games were allowed to be made&amp;quot; because they strictly controlled what works are allowed on their platforms.  There are always other platforms one can publish on.&lt;p&gt;The real problem is that consumers have accepted an Apple&amp;#x2F;Google duopoly over mobile computing, which isn&amp;#x27;t defeated by destroying the free choice of corporations, but by creating a viable competing alternative.  This currently exists in the form of jailbreaking, the use of third-party app stores and sideloading.  Ultimately it should take the form of a competing smartphone OS.&lt;p&gt;Quite frankly, Linux is beginning to look more and more capable of breaking into this scene, and this will fundamentally turn the current broken system on its head when it happens.  Android being open source and Unix-based only makes it easier since a ton of the foundations already exist.</text></item><item><author>anaisbetts</author><text>I look forward to Apple incurring more anti-competitive regulation and bringing the entire industry with it so that two companies do not get to decide by fiat what software is and is not allowed to be written, and what businesses do and do not get to exist</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>anaisbetts</author><text>People make the game console comparison, but there are crucial differences that don&amp;#x27;t make these scenarios comparable - first, there is still a completely open, viable platform to write games for (PC), and much more importantly, I do not run my entire life through my game console, and a game console is not effectively a requirement for modern life like a phone is.&lt;p&gt;Phones are ubiquitous, and the vast majority of businesses have a &lt;i&gt;Compelling Reason&lt;/i&gt; to have a presence on these devices. Allowing two companies to make any decision they want regarding what nearly every non-trivial business Can and Can Not Do, is the very definition of anti-competitiveness.&lt;p&gt;When you are a monopoly and you can influence other businesses in such an overarching way, it is Extremely Appropriate that you have to follow a Different Set of Rules than other people, rules that are more closely regulated to ensure that you are not abusing your position</text></comment>
<story><title>Developing a new app is unreasonable condition that Apple imposes on dating apps</title><url>https://www.acm.nl/en/publications/acm-developing-new-app-unnecessary-and-unreasonable-condition-apple-imposes-dating-app-providers</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>RIMR</author><text>This is a little bit overdramatic, given that they only exert that kind of control over the frameworks that they wholly own and control.&lt;p&gt;Nobody ever accused Microsoft or Sony of &amp;quot;getting to decide what games were allowed to be made&amp;quot; because they strictly controlled what works are allowed on their platforms.  There are always other platforms one can publish on.&lt;p&gt;The real problem is that consumers have accepted an Apple&amp;#x2F;Google duopoly over mobile computing, which isn&amp;#x27;t defeated by destroying the free choice of corporations, but by creating a viable competing alternative.  This currently exists in the form of jailbreaking, the use of third-party app stores and sideloading.  Ultimately it should take the form of a competing smartphone OS.&lt;p&gt;Quite frankly, Linux is beginning to look more and more capable of breaking into this scene, and this will fundamentally turn the current broken system on its head when it happens.  Android being open source and Unix-based only makes it easier since a ton of the foundations already exist.</text></item><item><author>anaisbetts</author><text>I look forward to Apple incurring more anti-competitive regulation and bringing the entire industry with it so that two companies do not get to decide by fiat what software is and is not allowed to be written, and what businesses do and do not get to exist</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Shoue</author><text>&amp;gt; This is a little bit overdramatic, given that they only exert that kind of control over the frameworks that they wholly own and control.&lt;p&gt;Would you be fine with being taxed for breathing if two or three companies hypothetically bought all the forests in your town or even state? After all, they own the things producing the oxygen you breathe, it only seems reasonable that you&amp;#x27;d pay them.&lt;p&gt;Sometimes, maybe it&amp;#x27;s not reasonable for companies to justify their bad behaviour simply because they &amp;quot;own&amp;quot; something.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Nobody ever accused Microsoft or Sony of &amp;quot;getting to decide what games were allowed to be made&amp;quot; because they strictly controlled what works are allowed on their platforms. There are always other platforms one can publish on.&lt;p&gt;I often just see the &amp;quot;consoles aren&amp;#x27;t general purpose&amp;quot; cop-out here but I&amp;#x27;d go further and say: we should -- we should accuse them of being anticompetitive too.</text></comment>