<story><title>Hard Part of Computer Science? Getting into Class</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/technology/computer-science-courses-college.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>AznHisoka</author><text>&amp;quot;The university is looking to hire several tenure-track faculty members in computing this year, he said, but competition for top candidates is fierce. I know of major departments that interviewed 40 candidates, and I don’t think they hired anybody.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;That doesn&amp;#x27;t sound like fierce competition if they were able to interview 40 candidates... Did they give them all high-paying offers and they all rejected?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>azhenley</author><text>One of the problems is that a candidate might sit on an offer for a long time. The best candidates want to wait until the interview season is over to evaluate all their offers. On the other hand, some schools give one week deadlines on offers but any good candidate will turn those down.&lt;p&gt;It is hard on both sides. The entire process was about 6 months when I went through it, and I had offers expiring before I even finished all the onsites.&lt;p&gt;Disclaimer: I’m a CS prof at a R1 university in my first year.</text></comment>
<story><title>Hard Part of Computer Science? Getting into Class</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/technology/computer-science-courses-college.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>AznHisoka</author><text>&amp;quot;The university is looking to hire several tenure-track faculty members in computing this year, he said, but competition for top candidates is fierce. I know of major departments that interviewed 40 candidates, and I don’t think they hired anybody.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;That doesn&amp;#x27;t sound like fierce competition if they were able to interview 40 candidates... Did they give them all high-paying offers and they all rejected?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bachmeier</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not CS faculty, but this is similar to the situation in economics. Interview 40. Of those, 20 may end up being acceptable. The eight best of those 20 get offers at better places. Four others take nonacademic jobs. You&amp;#x27;re left fighting over a pool of eight candidates with a lot more than eight other schools. It was really tough after the recession, when the Fed was hiring a ginormous number of new PhD&amp;#x27;s.</text></comment>