<story><title>TSA Plans to Use Face Recognition to Track Americans Through Airports</title><url>https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/11/tsa-plans-use-face-recognition-track-americans-through-airports</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>skate22</author><text>When your &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; to privacy starts conflicting with your &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; to safety, something has to give.</text></item><item><author>mtgx</author><text>&amp;gt; The tech is there.&lt;p&gt;This is why comments such &amp;quot;but spy agencies have always been spying, it&amp;#x27;s their job&amp;quot; have always pissed me off. The spy agencies will continue to encroach on our rights the more &amp;quot;tech is here&amp;quot;. We now have &amp;quot;smart&amp;quot; devices with mics and cameras in every room, so they&amp;#x27;re going to use that.&lt;p&gt;If 30 years from now we&amp;#x27;ll use some kind of &amp;quot;bluetooth headset&amp;quot; that actually interacts directly with our thoughts, then they&amp;#x27;ll use that, too, to screen out thoughts and arrest you for &amp;quot;extremist thoughts&amp;quot;. There&amp;#x27;s no limit for how far these people are willing to go - just because &amp;quot;the tech is here&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;And the sad part is the vast majority of people don&amp;#x27;t understand new tech, so they aren&amp;#x27;t even aware what&amp;#x27;s happening until it&amp;#x27;s way too late. And then it&amp;#x27;s already &amp;quot;normalized&amp;quot; and the government agencies cry about &amp;quot;how much they need it&amp;quot; and do slight of hand tricks with &amp;quot;look over here, this tech helped us save a kid from kidnapping!&amp;quot; -- &amp;quot;but don&amp;#x27;t look over there, where we abused it in 95% of the cases for our own twisted and vengeful interests.&amp;quot;</text></item><item><author>sho</author><text>&amp;gt; (Every government on earth) plans to use face recognition to track (everyone) through airports&lt;p&gt;Fixed it for you. I know for a fact at least 2 asian countries which are either actively using or trialling this, and not just at airports. Both already have fairly comprehensive facial recognition DBs of their citizens (smile for your driver&amp;#x27;s license picture!)&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve also heard anecdotal accounts of people who stay too long airside at SIN being questioned by airport police. They walk right up to them - pretty obvious what&amp;#x27;s going on. My only surprise is that they would reveal their capabilities so obviously, but maybe that&amp;#x27;s a deliberate strategy (&amp;quot;we know everything so don&amp;#x27;t try anything&amp;quot;).&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s only a matter of time before basically all governments are doing this. The tech is there.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mosselman</author><text>Much of the data gathered by agencies to make us &amp;#x27;safe&amp;#x27; is alter used for ulterior motives such as tax collection or, much worse, spreading of propaganda of censoring anti-establishment information. The recent events in Spain being an example of the last case. There is nothing wrong with having to pay taxes, but using information that you gain access to by scaring people into giving up by waving terrorism in their face is not ethical and not what many people signed up for.&lt;p&gt;Also, there are lots of actually effective measures to improve safety that don&amp;#x27;t involve giving governments direct access to what everyone says and does.</text></comment>
<story><title>TSA Plans to Use Face Recognition to Track Americans Through Airports</title><url>https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/11/tsa-plans-use-face-recognition-track-americans-through-airports</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>skate22</author><text>When your &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; to privacy starts conflicting with your &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; to safety, something has to give.</text></item><item><author>mtgx</author><text>&amp;gt; The tech is there.&lt;p&gt;This is why comments such &amp;quot;but spy agencies have always been spying, it&amp;#x27;s their job&amp;quot; have always pissed me off. The spy agencies will continue to encroach on our rights the more &amp;quot;tech is here&amp;quot;. We now have &amp;quot;smart&amp;quot; devices with mics and cameras in every room, so they&amp;#x27;re going to use that.&lt;p&gt;If 30 years from now we&amp;#x27;ll use some kind of &amp;quot;bluetooth headset&amp;quot; that actually interacts directly with our thoughts, then they&amp;#x27;ll use that, too, to screen out thoughts and arrest you for &amp;quot;extremist thoughts&amp;quot;. There&amp;#x27;s no limit for how far these people are willing to go - just because &amp;quot;the tech is here&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;And the sad part is the vast majority of people don&amp;#x27;t understand new tech, so they aren&amp;#x27;t even aware what&amp;#x27;s happening until it&amp;#x27;s way too late. And then it&amp;#x27;s already &amp;quot;normalized&amp;quot; and the government agencies cry about &amp;quot;how much they need it&amp;quot; and do slight of hand tricks with &amp;quot;look over here, this tech helped us save a kid from kidnapping!&amp;quot; -- &amp;quot;but don&amp;#x27;t look over there, where we abused it in 95% of the cases for our own twisted and vengeful interests.&amp;quot;</text></item><item><author>sho</author><text>&amp;gt; (Every government on earth) plans to use face recognition to track (everyone) through airports&lt;p&gt;Fixed it for you. I know for a fact at least 2 asian countries which are either actively using or trialling this, and not just at airports. Both already have fairly comprehensive facial recognition DBs of their citizens (smile for your driver&amp;#x27;s license picture!)&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve also heard anecdotal accounts of people who stay too long airside at SIN being questioned by airport police. They walk right up to them - pretty obvious what&amp;#x27;s going on. My only surprise is that they would reveal their capabilities so obviously, but maybe that&amp;#x27;s a deliberate strategy (&amp;quot;we know everything so don&amp;#x27;t try anything&amp;quot;).&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s only a matter of time before basically all governments are doing this. The tech is there.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>triplesec</author><text>A false dichotomy should always give first. You can both be safe and have privacy</text></comment>