<story><title>Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid &apos;plummeting&apos; Mac sales</title><url>https://www.macrumors.com/2023/04/03/apple-stopped-m2-chip-production-1q-2023/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Dalewyn</author><text>Speaking as someone who has and uses an M2 Macbook Air with 8GB RAM, I agree it&amp;#x27;s not &lt;i&gt;a lot&lt;/i&gt; but it&amp;#x27;s more than sufficient for any use case a Macbook Air would generally see.&lt;p&gt;This literally isn&amp;#x27;t Windows where 32GB of RAM is the new minimum.&lt;p&gt;I will say the Macbook Pro really should start from 16GB RAM and at least 1TB SSD; it&amp;#x27;s for professionals, isn&amp;#x27;t it?</text></item><item><author>KptMarchewa</author><text>&amp;gt;1650EUR for a laptop that won&amp;#x27;t have enough ram to run the browser in two years.&lt;p&gt;That did not have enough ram 3 years ago... the fact they are still trying to sell 8GB as an useful amount outside of extremely budget laptops is insane.</text></item><item><author>izacus</author><text>I was just buying a laptop for my family and the prices of MacBooks here in Europe are utterly crazy.&lt;p&gt;The crappiest 8GB RAM (?!) 256SSD M2 Air model is 1650EUR. 1650EUR for a laptop that won&amp;#x27;t have enough ram to run the browser in two years.&lt;p&gt;The 16GB model is rounded 2000EUR, which was before reserved for a high-end gaming laptops. It&amp;#x27;s bonkers.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>_gabe_</author><text>&amp;gt; This literally isn&amp;#x27;t Windows where 32GB of RAM is the new minimum.&lt;p&gt;4GB of RAM.[0]&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s the stupid websites that require GB of RAM to display a couple pieces of written text and the hundreds of MB of JS that tally up to the additional 28GB you may be thinking of. Oh and all the electron apps which add &lt;i&gt;additional&lt;/i&gt; browser requirements where there shouldn&amp;#x27;t be any. I guess Mac OS is somehow exempt from this particular fault though, I would be curious to know how they accomplished it.&lt;p&gt;[0]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;learn.microsoft.com&amp;#x2F;en-us&amp;#x2F;windows&amp;#x2F;whats-new&amp;#x2F;windows-11-requirements#hardware-requirements&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;learn.microsoft.com&amp;#x2F;en-us&amp;#x2F;windows&amp;#x2F;whats-new&amp;#x2F;windows-...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple halted M2 chip production in January amid &apos;plummeting&apos; Mac sales</title><url>https://www.macrumors.com/2023/04/03/apple-stopped-m2-chip-production-1q-2023/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Dalewyn</author><text>Speaking as someone who has and uses an M2 Macbook Air with 8GB RAM, I agree it&amp;#x27;s not &lt;i&gt;a lot&lt;/i&gt; but it&amp;#x27;s more than sufficient for any use case a Macbook Air would generally see.&lt;p&gt;This literally isn&amp;#x27;t Windows where 32GB of RAM is the new minimum.&lt;p&gt;I will say the Macbook Pro really should start from 16GB RAM and at least 1TB SSD; it&amp;#x27;s for professionals, isn&amp;#x27;t it?</text></item><item><author>KptMarchewa</author><text>&amp;gt;1650EUR for a laptop that won&amp;#x27;t have enough ram to run the browser in two years.&lt;p&gt;That did not have enough ram 3 years ago... the fact they are still trying to sell 8GB as an useful amount outside of extremely budget laptops is insane.</text></item><item><author>izacus</author><text>I was just buying a laptop for my family and the prices of MacBooks here in Europe are utterly crazy.&lt;p&gt;The crappiest 8GB RAM (?!) 256SSD M2 Air model is 1650EUR. 1650EUR for a laptop that won&amp;#x27;t have enough ram to run the browser in two years.&lt;p&gt;The 16GB model is rounded 2000EUR, which was before reserved for a high-end gaming laptops. It&amp;#x27;s bonkers.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>lanstin</author><text>I bought a Linux machine a year or so ago, with 64G ram and 2T SSD (for less than Apple wants, obviously).  I will say it is pretty much over spec-ced. I have a browser, use it for taxes and like city permit approvals and the odd pdf download&amp;#x2F;print. For a while I ran a bitcoin node.  I use it for development of my open source go libraries, with eMacs and the associated ten stack overflow or GitHub tabs, but the only time I get make it use even a faction of its power is when like i test a “find all dup files on the dive” or rebuild gcc.&lt;p&gt;Hopefully it will work for a long time, but I think development could be good on a quarter of the mem&amp;#x2F;storage hardware. More cores would be nice, as always, but even there, go compile will light them all up but for far less than a second.</text></comment>