<story><title>MongoDB removed from RHEL 8 beta due to license</title><url>https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8-beta/html/8.0_beta_release_notes/new-features#web_servers_databases_dynamic_languages_2</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>giancarlostoro</author><text>It seems[0] the new MongoDB license is basically non-free and it would make no sense to include it in RHEL8. I hope Debian and other distros follow suit as a result if they come in agreement. It&amp;#x27;s sad that the license change all resorts to greed basically, as if Oracle took over MongoDB.&lt;p&gt;If I were to ever use a NoSQL database for a new project I&amp;#x27;d aim for MIT &amp;#x2F; 2-clause BSD based projects instead. PostgreSQL has no issue being BSD-like licensed (all this time I thought it was BSD or MIT, turns out it&amp;#x27;s a similar license instead). It saddens me RethinkDB couldn&amp;#x27;t compete more with MongoDB.&lt;p&gt;[0]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=18919728&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=18919728&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>brazzledazzle</author><text>I’ll never understand why we collectively wag our fingers at individuals or companies that try to keep the likes of Amazon from building a profitable service off of their hard work then contribute back little-to-nothing. Would redis, mongodb and dgraph have even considered alternate licensing if companies like Amazon had thrown them a minuscule amount of funding and patches? We can’t know because they didn’t. And then we sneer at them for having the audacity to try to stay open but stop these giants from using them and throwing them away.&lt;p&gt;This kind of aggressive behavior toward these people trying to stop their own destruction at the hands of the biggest and most profitable companies in the world makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with our industry. This could easily be any of us. It might be any of us in the future. What do we gain by consolidating control in 3-4 different giants? What are we achieving with such a black and white view of what constitutes open source or not?</text></comment>
<story><title>MongoDB removed from RHEL 8 beta due to license</title><url>https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8-beta/html/8.0_beta_release_notes/new-features#web_servers_databases_dynamic_languages_2</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>giancarlostoro</author><text>It seems[0] the new MongoDB license is basically non-free and it would make no sense to include it in RHEL8. I hope Debian and other distros follow suit as a result if they come in agreement. It&amp;#x27;s sad that the license change all resorts to greed basically, as if Oracle took over MongoDB.&lt;p&gt;If I were to ever use a NoSQL database for a new project I&amp;#x27;d aim for MIT &amp;#x2F; 2-clause BSD based projects instead. PostgreSQL has no issue being BSD-like licensed (all this time I thought it was BSD or MIT, turns out it&amp;#x27;s a similar license instead). It saddens me RethinkDB couldn&amp;#x27;t compete more with MongoDB.&lt;p&gt;[0]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=18919728&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=18919728&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>hannob</author><text>&amp;gt; It&amp;#x27;s sad that the license change all resorts to greed basically, as if Oracle took over MongoDB.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s essentially &amp;quot;we convinced the stock market that our company tripled in value over the course of a year, and now we have to tell them what business model is behind this value growth&amp;quot; [1].&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;finance.yahoo.com&amp;#x2F;quote&amp;#x2F;MDB&amp;#x2F;?guccounter=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;finance.yahoo.com&amp;#x2F;quote&amp;#x2F;MDB&amp;#x2F;?guccounter=1&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>