<story><title>Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dietsche</author><text>As a Tesla owner, I think the source of the confusion is the EPA range displayed in the HUD on the Tesla. We toggled ours to show the battery percentage, which is much more useful to us.&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#x27;ve never owned a gas vehicle that met it&amp;#x27;s EPA range and the Tesla is no different. No one takes EPA MPG * GALLONS of gas and expects it to be a real life estimate of range.&lt;p&gt;Wind resistance increases EXPONENTIALLY with speed. Drive a little over the speeds the EPA used to determine range, and the observed range will drop significantly as a percentage when compared to the EPA range for any vehicle.&lt;p&gt;If you do have a Tesla, you&amp;#x27;ll quickly find out that the trip computer is very accurate. The worst I&amp;#x27;ve seen is a cold January day in Wisconsin (-10F) while on a road trip with a head wind. In that scenario, the trip computer was off by 7% mostly due to the head wind. In the summer, it is spot on usually within 1 - 2%.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>annexrichmond</author><text>FWIW Our Audis (Q5, A6 allroad) have significantly better MPGs than the advertised ones&lt;p&gt;The Q5 advertises 28mlg on the highway but i consistently hit 30+ here&lt;p&gt;And the wagon hits 35mpg on the highway very often even though it only advertises 26.  It actually turns off 2 of the 6 cylinders when it senses that it can.</text></comment>
<story><title>Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dietsche</author><text>As a Tesla owner, I think the source of the confusion is the EPA range displayed in the HUD on the Tesla. We toggled ours to show the battery percentage, which is much more useful to us.&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#x27;ve never owned a gas vehicle that met it&amp;#x27;s EPA range and the Tesla is no different. No one takes EPA MPG * GALLONS of gas and expects it to be a real life estimate of range.&lt;p&gt;Wind resistance increases EXPONENTIALLY with speed. Drive a little over the speeds the EPA used to determine range, and the observed range will drop significantly as a percentage when compared to the EPA range for any vehicle.&lt;p&gt;If you do have a Tesla, you&amp;#x27;ll quickly find out that the trip computer is very accurate. The worst I&amp;#x27;ve seen is a cold January day in Wisconsin (-10F) while on a road trip with a head wind. In that scenario, the trip computer was off by 7% mostly due to the head wind. In the summer, it is spot on usually within 1 - 2%.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rootusrootus</author><text>&amp;gt; We&amp;#x27;ve never owned a gas vehicle that met it&amp;#x27;s EPA range and the Tesla is no different. No one takes EPA MPG * GALLONS of gas and expects it to be a real life estimate of range.&lt;p&gt;Because gas stations are still far more common than fast chargers.  We&amp;#x27;ll get there with EV charging, but right now range does matter, especially if you routinely see half of what was advertised.</text></comment>