<story><title>New reports suggest limits to autonomous vehicle performance</title><url>https://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/self-driving/have-selfdriving-cars-stopped-getting-better</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gwbas1c</author><text>Letting a computer drive my car is high-risk: If there is a malfunction at 70mph, I could die!&lt;p&gt;Where&amp;#x27;s my automatic lawn mower? Where&amp;#x27;s my robot to unload the dishwasher and put everything away?&lt;p&gt;We need to find other consumer technology to use AI in before we risk our lives with self driving cars.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>visarga</author><text>&amp;gt; Letting a computer drive my car is high-risk: If there is a malfunction at 70mph, I could die!&lt;p&gt;Google can&amp;#x27;t even make GPS mapping work perfectly - it&amp;#x27;s apparent if you use it for a day. Not to mention that AI vision systems are susceptible to adversarial attacks, which means they can be hacked by external images. This paper just came out yesterday: &amp;quot;Breaking 7&amp;#x2F;8 of the ICLR 2018 adversarial example defenses&amp;quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;arxiv.org&amp;#x2F;abs&amp;#x2F;1802.00420&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;arxiv.org&amp;#x2F;abs&amp;#x2F;1802.00420&lt;/a&gt;). The situation is dire.&lt;p&gt;I think they are afraid that drawing a couple of lines with a marker on a street sign might make it invisible, or turn it into another sign. They can&amp;#x27;t defend against such attacks because the neural net doesn&amp;#x27;t actually understand the world, it just observes patterns. Understanding requires causal reasoning.</text></comment>
<story><title>New reports suggest limits to autonomous vehicle performance</title><url>https://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/self-driving/have-selfdriving-cars-stopped-getting-better</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gwbas1c</author><text>Letting a computer drive my car is high-risk: If there is a malfunction at 70mph, I could die!&lt;p&gt;Where&amp;#x27;s my automatic lawn mower? Where&amp;#x27;s my robot to unload the dishwasher and put everything away?&lt;p&gt;We need to find other consumer technology to use AI in before we risk our lives with self driving cars.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bastawhiz</author><text>On the flip side, very few people die while mowing the lawn or unloading the dishwasher. If you mow the lawn poorly, you&amp;#x27;ll be fine. If you unload the dishwasher while drunk, there&amp;#x27;s no risk of killing a family.&lt;p&gt;I know enough people that drive terribly to see the obvious benefits to autonomous driving. It doesn&amp;#x27;t need to be perfect to have a net-positive effect on road safety, it just needs to be better than a human on average. And based on the evidence, it seems they&amp;#x27;re doing a damn good job of achieving that goal.</text></comment>