<story><title>Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth</title><url>https://triplebyte.com/blog/want-hire-best-programmers-offer-growth</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>logifail</author><text>&amp;gt; when someone pays you more, they respect you more&lt;p&gt;The counter-example to that could be that once you&amp;#x27;re senior enough, you are never 100% on vacation.   If enough goes wrong, you &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; get called back to work.</text></item><item><author>chadash</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Partially because I enjoy learning and growing my technical skills, partially because I want to move into more leadership roles, but a huge part of it is because I know that if I&amp;#x27;m good, I will be paid a massive premium for it.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;And it&amp;#x27;s one of the unfair things in life that jobs that pay more often get other benefits as well. Making $40k&amp;#x2F;year? Chances are you get 2 weeks vacation, inflexible work hours, inferior equipment. Making $200K&amp;#x2F;year? I&amp;#x27;ll be you also have top of the line equipment, no one keeping close tabs on your hours, 4 weeks or more vacation, money to go to conferences, etc.&lt;p&gt;A mentor of mine once told me that I should seek to make more money, even if that&amp;#x27;s not my motivation. He said that more money is always nice to have, but also that when someone pays you more, they respect you more, so you get all the benefits that come along with that.</text></item><item><author>nscalf</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m a software engineer with ~3 years of experience.  I also want professional growth.  Partially because I enjoy learning and growing my technical skills, partially because I want to move into more leadership roles, but a huge part of it is because I know that if I&amp;#x27;m good, I will be paid a massive premium for it.  levels.fyi sort of convinced me that being a good engineer is a life changing event for more than 1 generation.  I answer questions like these as growth primarily because I know growth is an investment for my life long earning potential, and I just so happen to have a passion for growth to begin with---it&amp;#x27;s a lucky combination to be drawn to.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d love to see questions like this phrased to account for this: 
&amp;quot;Opportunity for professional growth, to grow my future earning potential.&amp;quot;
&amp;quot;Opportunity for professional growth, because I enjoy learning new things.&amp;quot;
&amp;quot;Opportunity for professional growth, to reach a role I cannot fill with my current skills.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I know the article tried to address this with the responses, but that&amp;#x27;s sort of the default answer you give in this field.  No one really says, or enjoys hearing, &amp;quot;I want to learn more so I can make more money&amp;quot;.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>natefox</author><text>I give my boss&amp;#x2F;coworkers my wife&amp;#x27;s phone number when I go on vacation. I tell them you have to talk to her to get to me. I then put my phone in airplane mode 95% of the time and use it as a camera. I&amp;#x27;ll occasionally undo airplane mode to upload photos or check the internets for something, but vacation for me is usually unplugging as well.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve yet to be called with this strategy.</text></comment>
<story><title>Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth</title><url>https://triplebyte.com/blog/want-hire-best-programmers-offer-growth</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>logifail</author><text>&amp;gt; when someone pays you more, they respect you more&lt;p&gt;The counter-example to that could be that once you&amp;#x27;re senior enough, you are never 100% on vacation.   If enough goes wrong, you &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; get called back to work.</text></item><item><author>chadash</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Partially because I enjoy learning and growing my technical skills, partially because I want to move into more leadership roles, but a huge part of it is because I know that if I&amp;#x27;m good, I will be paid a massive premium for it.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;And it&amp;#x27;s one of the unfair things in life that jobs that pay more often get other benefits as well. Making $40k&amp;#x2F;year? Chances are you get 2 weeks vacation, inflexible work hours, inferior equipment. Making $200K&amp;#x2F;year? I&amp;#x27;ll be you also have top of the line equipment, no one keeping close tabs on your hours, 4 weeks or more vacation, money to go to conferences, etc.&lt;p&gt;A mentor of mine once told me that I should seek to make more money, even if that&amp;#x27;s not my motivation. He said that more money is always nice to have, but also that when someone pays you more, they respect you more, so you get all the benefits that come along with that.</text></item><item><author>nscalf</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m a software engineer with ~3 years of experience.  I also want professional growth.  Partially because I enjoy learning and growing my technical skills, partially because I want to move into more leadership roles, but a huge part of it is because I know that if I&amp;#x27;m good, I will be paid a massive premium for it.  levels.fyi sort of convinced me that being a good engineer is a life changing event for more than 1 generation.  I answer questions like these as growth primarily because I know growth is an investment for my life long earning potential, and I just so happen to have a passion for growth to begin with---it&amp;#x27;s a lucky combination to be drawn to.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d love to see questions like this phrased to account for this: 
&amp;quot;Opportunity for professional growth, to grow my future earning potential.&amp;quot;
&amp;quot;Opportunity for professional growth, because I enjoy learning new things.&amp;quot;
&amp;quot;Opportunity for professional growth, to reach a role I cannot fill with my current skills.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I know the article tried to address this with the responses, but that&amp;#x27;s sort of the default answer you give in this field.  No one really says, or enjoys hearing, &amp;quot;I want to learn more so I can make more money&amp;quot;.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bcyn</author><text>That has nothing to do with seniority, it&amp;#x27;s 100% about how you draw personal boundaries between work hours and personal hours. You can make it clear that you will be completely unplugged during vacation.</text></comment>