<story><title>AI is taking the jobs of Kenyans who write essays for U.S. college students</title><url>https://restofworld.org/2023/chatgpt-taking-kenya-ghostwriters-jobs/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>hospitalJail</author><text>I wonder if this is going to level the playing field a bit.&lt;p&gt;People who cheated in school had a bit of an advantage, but with these advances, it forces teachers to find ways to test people in different ways.&lt;p&gt;I once had a teacher who gave us open book, open note, etc... for chemistry. The trick was, you had ~60 minutes to do it. If you didn&amp;#x27;t practice, you&amp;#x27;d never finish the test in time.&lt;p&gt;I also had a different teacher in thermo 2 give us two different insane problems, and we had to solve them. GPT would easily fail at this. It involved drawing a few diagrams of layers and calculations. (although, I wonder if you could train LLMs on this problem) Still, you had to do this in class, no calculator, just set up the equations.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>pmarreck</author><text>&amp;gt; I once had a teacher who gave us open book, open note, etc... for chemistry. The trick was, you had ~60 minutes to do it. If you didn&amp;#x27;t practice, you&amp;#x27;d never finish the test in time.&lt;p&gt;I hated tests like this... because I was a lazy kid who coasted through school and didn&amp;#x27;t understand why &amp;quot;simply understanding the material&amp;quot; was insufficient. In college (Cornell) the chaos continued, I got poor grades in calc because despite getting all the bonus questions right (which tested your understanding of the material), I couldn&amp;#x27;t finish the actual test in time because I hadn&amp;#x27;t done the problem-set homework (these problem sets took 6 hours to do btw... coming from a high school that only started challenging me towards the end, I was completely ill-equipped to handle that level of self-discipline).&lt;p&gt;Of course, in the working world, it turns out that persistence&amp;#x2F;commitment&amp;#x2F;self-discipline is the real payoff. I had to learn that the hard way later on.</text></comment>
<story><title>AI is taking the jobs of Kenyans who write essays for U.S. college students</title><url>https://restofworld.org/2023/chatgpt-taking-kenya-ghostwriters-jobs/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>hospitalJail</author><text>I wonder if this is going to level the playing field a bit.&lt;p&gt;People who cheated in school had a bit of an advantage, but with these advances, it forces teachers to find ways to test people in different ways.&lt;p&gt;I once had a teacher who gave us open book, open note, etc... for chemistry. The trick was, you had ~60 minutes to do it. If you didn&amp;#x27;t practice, you&amp;#x27;d never finish the test in time.&lt;p&gt;I also had a different teacher in thermo 2 give us two different insane problems, and we had to solve them. GPT would easily fail at this. It involved drawing a few diagrams of layers and calculations. (although, I wonder if you could train LLMs on this problem) Still, you had to do this in class, no calculator, just set up the equations.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>VeninVidiaVicii</author><text>Yeah, same for my prokaryotic molecular biology class. The questions were 100 percent theoretical, and you were even allowed to take the test at home. After the first one, it made sense why — the questions are totally ungooglable, and working with anyone else would’ve immediately polluted my mind and been obvious.</text></comment>