<story><title>Apple joins opposition to encrypted message app scanning</title><url>https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-66028773</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>camhart</author><text>CSAM is a real problem. Its not merely emotional weight.</text></item><item><author>grrywlsn</author><text>I’d argue their attempts at having a plan for CSAM were preempting these exact types of arguments being made in bad faith by governments like the UK, who are actively engaging children’s charities to give their goal of breaking e2ee have some emotional societal weight.</text></item><item><author>apexalpha</author><text>Didn&amp;#x27;t apple also recommend on-device scanning for these kind of pictures as well a while ago?&lt;p&gt;Glad to see they now oppose it but it&amp;#x27;s hard to gauge how sincere it is given their history of trying to implement it themselves.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>JohnFen</author><text>Of course. But that emotional weight is very often cynically used in order to get people to go along with things they consider unacceptable.</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple joins opposition to encrypted message app scanning</title><url>https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-66028773</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>camhart</author><text>CSAM is a real problem. Its not merely emotional weight.</text></item><item><author>grrywlsn</author><text>I’d argue their attempts at having a plan for CSAM were preempting these exact types of arguments being made in bad faith by governments like the UK, who are actively engaging children’s charities to give their goal of breaking e2ee have some emotional societal weight.</text></item><item><author>apexalpha</author><text>Didn&amp;#x27;t apple also recommend on-device scanning for these kind of pictures as well a while ago?&lt;p&gt;Glad to see they now oppose it but it&amp;#x27;s hard to gauge how sincere it is given their history of trying to implement it themselves.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>BLKNSLVR</author><text>&amp;gt;  give their goal of breaking e2ee have some emotional societal weight.&lt;p&gt;Breaking E2EE is their goal. CSAM is the McGuffin.</text></comment>