<story><title>Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch</title><url>https://insideevs.com/news/566896/toyota-electric-vehicle-manual-transmission/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>foepys</author><text>I wish EVs were actually silent. In reality they are just as loud as a normal ICE vehicle above 20mph&amp;#x2F;30kph.&lt;p&gt;The reason for this are the tires which have gotten so wide over the past decades that they are now the sole noise you hear from a normal car.</text></item><item><author>superchroma</author><text>I can&amp;#x27;t decide whether this is dumber than Dodge making a huge deal about how their new EV Dodge Charger (car not car-charger, oh my god, what a branding screw up) makes authentic loud V8 noises, but they&amp;#x27;re definitely both stupid. Can we just fast forward to the future where EVs glide around silently and people look both ways before crossing the road?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>garyfirestorm</author><text>There’s a regulatory requirement that specifies how much minimum noise should be emitted in each frequency band. All BEVs need this pedestrian alert system. It takes into account that partially deaf people may not be able to hear certain frequencies say tire noise band.</text></comment>
<story><title>Toyota patents plans for EV with manual transmission and clutch</title><url>https://insideevs.com/news/566896/toyota-electric-vehicle-manual-transmission/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>foepys</author><text>I wish EVs were actually silent. In reality they are just as loud as a normal ICE vehicle above 20mph&amp;#x2F;30kph.&lt;p&gt;The reason for this are the tires which have gotten so wide over the past decades that they are now the sole noise you hear from a normal car.</text></item><item><author>superchroma</author><text>I can&amp;#x27;t decide whether this is dumber than Dodge making a huge deal about how their new EV Dodge Charger (car not car-charger, oh my god, what a branding screw up) makes authentic loud V8 noises, but they&amp;#x27;re definitely both stupid. Can we just fast forward to the future where EVs glide around silently and people look both ways before crossing the road?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dekhn</author><text>Uh, no.  I have a hybrid and the difference in noise between a gas engine and electric is highly noticeable at all speeds, in cabin or outside.</text></comment>