<story><title>Who owns private home security footage, and who can get access to it?</title><url>https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/07/privacy-loophole-ring-doorbell-00084979</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>giantg2</author><text>&amp;quot;Who owns private home security footage&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I do. DIY on-site only system.&lt;p&gt;Pretty simple really - stop using third party vendors for data storage. They&amp;#x27;re cheap and easy because &lt;i&gt;your data&lt;/i&gt; is usually the product. Sure, you would still be forced to comply with warrants&amp;#x2F;subpoenas if they think you have data, but that&amp;#x27;s basically unescapable.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>asveikau</author><text>If they get a warrant like the story in this article you&amp;#x27;ll still have to hand it over.&lt;p&gt;The fact that it&amp;#x27;s not on a popular cloud camera provider may make it harder for them to discover what it is they need to request, but they can still do it and you could still be compelled to comply.&lt;p&gt;In that case I would kind of rather they go to a megacorp vs. me needing to get a lawyer and figure out how to respond.&lt;p&gt;But generally I agree that it&amp;#x27;s sketchy for a third party to hold the data.</text></comment>
<story><title>Who owns private home security footage, and who can get access to it?</title><url>https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/07/privacy-loophole-ring-doorbell-00084979</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>giantg2</author><text>&amp;quot;Who owns private home security footage&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I do. DIY on-site only system.&lt;p&gt;Pretty simple really - stop using third party vendors for data storage. They&amp;#x27;re cheap and easy because &lt;i&gt;your data&lt;/i&gt; is usually the product. Sure, you would still be forced to comply with warrants&amp;#x2F;subpoenas if they think you have data, but that&amp;#x27;s basically unescapable.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>hot_gril</author><text>&amp;gt; stop using third party vendors for data storage&lt;p&gt;No. I need a system that detects motion during scheduled times (ideally only humans) and buzzes my phone instantly, giving me a live view and saving a recording around that time. And most of all, it has to be reliable enough that I don&amp;#x27;t question whether it&amp;#x27;s working. Anyone who says this is easy is underestimating it.&lt;p&gt;Something on-prem could do all that, but nobody sells it, and most DIY systems don&amp;#x27;t have those features (does yours?). So here I am with the Ring.</text></comment>