<story><title>Kayak&apos;s new flight filter allows you to exclude aircraft models</title><url>https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/s/kb3WBpHMFL</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cm2187</author><text>I don’t think it makes sense for passengers to worry about the plane model. I haven’t done the math but conceptually it’s like being paranoid about taking plane A that has a 99.99998 safety vs plane B that has a 99.99999 safety.&lt;p&gt;For the crew, things are a little different given that they are all day long, all year long in the same plane model, so those minuscule risks compound.&lt;p&gt;People are bad at conceptualising low probabilities. That’s why they play lottery!</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>stringsandchars</author><text>&amp;gt; I don’t think it makes sense for passengers to worry about the plane model.&lt;p&gt;Why do you think we should surrender the tiny amount of agency that we still have, in the face of corporate profit-driven deterioration?&lt;p&gt;For me, this isn&amp;#x27;t about a measured risk in relation to other known risks in my life (crossing the road, cycling, drinking alcohol). It&amp;#x27;s about removing a totally unnecessary risk caused by greed and corporate heedlessness.&lt;p&gt;A similar case: I stopped eating British Beef when a British minister fed his daughter a beefburger[0] to &amp;#x27;prove&amp;#x27; it was &amp;quot;totally safe&amp;quot;, during the &amp;#x27;Mad Cow Disease&amp;#x27; (BSE) crisis in 1990. I wasn&amp;#x27;t significantly worried about contracting BSE at the time, but the lengths and efforts that the government went to, to convince people to eat more beef for &amp;#x27;patriotic&amp;#x27; reasons, when the farmers had fed their cows on ground-up carcasses for economic gain, meant that my boycott was a small but meaningful expression of my own agency when faced by this sort of appalling behavior.&lt;p&gt;I feel the same way about Boeing, and about the greed of airlines (like RyanAir), that think only about profit and see passenger safety as an irritating distraction that is only important in terms of &amp;#x27;brand perception&amp;#x27;.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.devonlive.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;devon-news&amp;#x2F;bse-crisis-john-selywn-gummer-2122969&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.devonlive.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;devon-news&amp;#x2F;bse-crisis-john-se...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Kayak&apos;s new flight filter allows you to exclude aircraft models</title><url>https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/s/kb3WBpHMFL</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cm2187</author><text>I don’t think it makes sense for passengers to worry about the plane model. I haven’t done the math but conceptually it’s like being paranoid about taking plane A that has a 99.99998 safety vs plane B that has a 99.99999 safety.&lt;p&gt;For the crew, things are a little different given that they are all day long, all year long in the same plane model, so those minuscule risks compound.&lt;p&gt;People are bad at conceptualising low probabilities. That’s why they play lottery!</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ldoughty</author><text>I agree that people are bad with probability like you explain&lt;p&gt;However, I think the issue with the 737 MAX is that it&amp;#x27;s been involved in several high profile catastrophic mistakes while only being in service for a few years. It&amp;#x27;s expected that a page in service for 20 years might have wear and tear that leads to issues... But brand new planes crashing back to back shortly after being released..&lt;p&gt;The stats on the Wikipedia page state that the MAX has 4 fatalities per 1 million flights, while the prior generation has 0.2 fatalities per million flights [1]. Of course, some if this is due to the two crashes right out the door, and if excluded, perhaps they are similar... But then this new door blowout issue occured... And after investigation multiple planes had the same issue (so it likely is a production issue, not an individual worker screwing up one time).&lt;p&gt;Overall I agree plane model should mean little to travelers... But the MAX is trying very hard to prove it&amp;#x27;s a lemon.&lt;p&gt;1: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Boeing_737_MAX&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Boeing_737_MAX&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>