<story><title>Gun owners’ private information leaked by California Attorney General</title><url>https://thereload.com/new-california-ag-website-leaks-massive-trove-of-gun-owner-private-information/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>eikenberry</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m curious about how they differentiate between guns bought as gifts vs straw purchases? I&amp;#x27;d guess it would be intent but it&amp;#x27;s hard to google for.</text></item><item><author>slowhand09</author><text>Straw purchases...  when someone else purchases a gun for you.  Illegal in every state, and federally.&lt;p&gt;Please search the FBI and ATF online data for people arrested and or convicted of straw purchases.&lt;p&gt;Then tell me how serious they are about stopping it.</text></item><item><author>omgwtfbyobbq</author><text>Most criminals get guns through straw purchases. This is still a big screw up, but overall, the best way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals is to better regulate sales.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.pbs.org&amp;#x2F;wgbh&amp;#x2F;pages&amp;#x2F;frontline&amp;#x2F;shows&amp;#x2F;guns&amp;#x2F;procon&amp;#x2F;guns.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.pbs.org&amp;#x2F;wgbh&amp;#x2F;pages&amp;#x2F;frontline&amp;#x2F;shows&amp;#x2F;guns&amp;#x2F;procon&amp;#x2F;g...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; An expert on crime gun patterns, ATF agent Jay Wachtel says that most guns used in crimes are not stolen out of private gun owners&amp;#x27; homes and cars. &amp;quot;Stolen guns account for only about 10% to 15% of guns used in crimes,&amp;quot; Wachtel said. Because when they want guns they want them immediately the wait is usually too long for a weapon to be stolen and find its way to a criminal.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; In fact, there are a number of sources that allow guns to fall into the wrong hands, with gun thefts at the bottom of the list. Wachtel says one of the most common ways criminals get guns is through straw purchase sales.</text></item><item><author>yardie</author><text>For those that don&amp;#x27;t understand the implication of this: Criminals get guns through burgling and robbery. By included such detailed information on who&amp;#x27;s a registered gun owner, where they live, etc. It makes the gun owner a lucrative target.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m staunchly pro regulation but this even I can&amp;#x27;t understand. Like someone just did SELECT * FROM GunOwnersDB and pushed is straight to the web.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Ancapistani</author><text>This is one of the areas where I&amp;#x27;ve hyperfocused for years.&lt;p&gt;A straw purchase is when a gun is purchased on behalf of someone else. The person buying the gun isn&amp;#x27;t using their own money, or the person they&amp;#x27;re giving it to has traded them something of value.&lt;p&gt;A gift doesn&amp;#x27;t involve an exchange of reciprocal value. In other words, I can legally take you into a gun store, let you shop, buy the gun for you, then hand it to you. In practice, a gift purchase is almost always when the recipient isn&amp;#x27;t there, because it &lt;i&gt;looks&lt;/i&gt; like a straw purchase.&lt;p&gt;Ironically, if you take someone shopping to buy them a gun as a gift, by law you&amp;#x27;re the one that&amp;#x27;s supposed to have the background check run - not the recipient. Almost all FFLs will deny the sale if you tell them that you&amp;#x27;re buying it as a gift for someone who is present at the time, and there is no easy and legal way to run a background check on the intended recipient.&lt;p&gt;If memory serves, a cop was convicted a few years ago of a straw purchase after buying a &amp;quot;blue label&amp;quot; (police discount price) Glock for someone else. That person gave the cop the money, the cop bought it, then gave it to the person. The actual buyer in that case was not a prohibited person, and the straw purchase itself was the only crime committed.</text></comment>
<story><title>Gun owners’ private information leaked by California Attorney General</title><url>https://thereload.com/new-california-ag-website-leaks-massive-trove-of-gun-owner-private-information/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>eikenberry</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m curious about how they differentiate between guns bought as gifts vs straw purchases? I&amp;#x27;d guess it would be intent but it&amp;#x27;s hard to google for.</text></item><item><author>slowhand09</author><text>Straw purchases...  when someone else purchases a gun for you.  Illegal in every state, and federally.&lt;p&gt;Please search the FBI and ATF online data for people arrested and or convicted of straw purchases.&lt;p&gt;Then tell me how serious they are about stopping it.</text></item><item><author>omgwtfbyobbq</author><text>Most criminals get guns through straw purchases. This is still a big screw up, but overall, the best way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals is to better regulate sales.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.pbs.org&amp;#x2F;wgbh&amp;#x2F;pages&amp;#x2F;frontline&amp;#x2F;shows&amp;#x2F;guns&amp;#x2F;procon&amp;#x2F;guns.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.pbs.org&amp;#x2F;wgbh&amp;#x2F;pages&amp;#x2F;frontline&amp;#x2F;shows&amp;#x2F;guns&amp;#x2F;procon&amp;#x2F;g...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; An expert on crime gun patterns, ATF agent Jay Wachtel says that most guns used in crimes are not stolen out of private gun owners&amp;#x27; homes and cars. &amp;quot;Stolen guns account for only about 10% to 15% of guns used in crimes,&amp;quot; Wachtel said. Because when they want guns they want them immediately the wait is usually too long for a weapon to be stolen and find its way to a criminal.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; In fact, there are a number of sources that allow guns to fall into the wrong hands, with gun thefts at the bottom of the list. Wachtel says one of the most common ways criminals get guns is through straw purchase sales.</text></item><item><author>yardie</author><text>For those that don&amp;#x27;t understand the implication of this: Criminals get guns through burgling and robbery. By included such detailed information on who&amp;#x27;s a registered gun owner, where they live, etc. It makes the gun owner a lucrative target.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m staunchly pro regulation but this even I can&amp;#x27;t understand. Like someone just did SELECT * FROM GunOwnersDB and pushed is straight to the web.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>digdugdirk</author><text>Generally by volume. One or two? Sure, you might be a really generous friend. Fifty? Probably a bit too generous - something fishy is going on. Of course, without a federal firearms registry, its difficult to quickly just flag people who are buying guns at an unusual rate.&lt;p&gt;As far as actually catching perpetrators? Again, without a database its usually down to undercover work and tips.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;giffords.org&amp;#x2F;lawcenter&amp;#x2F;gun-laws&amp;#x2F;policy-areas&amp;#x2F;crime-guns&amp;#x2F;trafficking-straw-purchasing&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;giffords.org&amp;#x2F;lawcenter&amp;#x2F;gun-laws&amp;#x2F;policy-areas&amp;#x2F;crime-g...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;giffords.org&amp;#x2F;lawcenter&amp;#x2F;state-laws&amp;#x2F;trafficking-straw-purchasing-in-texas&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;giffords.org&amp;#x2F;lawcenter&amp;#x2F;state-laws&amp;#x2F;trafficking-straw-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.fox32chicago.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;56-arrests-dozens-of-narcotics-and-weapons-seized-in-lake-county-undercover-investigation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.fox32chicago.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;56-arrests-dozens-of-narco...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>