<story><title>Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-protests-firing/facebook-fires-employee-who-protested-its-inaction-on-trump-tweets-idUSKBN23J35Y</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>holler</author><text>Agree. It&amp;#x27;s endemic of the political and cultural climate we&amp;#x27;re in right now, where mob rule is becoming the status quo. Personal politics should be just that, personal.</text></item><item><author>rubber_duck</author><text>He decides because he believes something strongly it permits him to publicly attack someone he works with... Imagine having to deal with this guy in a team when he has a strong opinion on something the team disagrees with ...</text></item><item><author>mgleitub</author><text>Indeed -- here is some additional context that the article doesn&amp;#x27;t provide:&lt;p&gt;The fired employee Tweeted today:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;In the interest of transparency, I was let go for calling out an employee’s inaction here on Twitter. I stand by what I said. They didn’t give me the chance to quit [0]&lt;p&gt;He then specifically cited [1] the Tweet in question that was the cause:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;I asked @Vjeux to follow @reactjs&amp;#x27;s lead and add a statement of support to Recoil&amp;#x27;s docs and he privately refused, claiming open source shouldn&amp;#x27;t be political.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;Intentionally not making a statement is already political. Consider that next time you think of Recoil. [2]&lt;p&gt;This is specifically targeting an individual front-end engineer at FB, which in my own estimation crosses the line from criticism of executives or general policy, to specifically trying to instigate public outrage against a co-worker. If such actions were directed at me, I would definitely consider it as contributing to a hostile work environment. It all strikes me as a modern-day example of &amp;quot;Havel&amp;#x27;s greengrocer&amp;quot; [3].&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1271522288752455680&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1271522288752455680&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1271531477209976832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1271531477209976832&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1267895488205869057&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1267895488205869057&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;The_Power_of_the_Powerless#Havel&amp;#x27;s_greengrocer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;The_Power_of_the_Powerless#Hav...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>nsainsbury</author><text>I think a key phrase here is &amp;quot;he was dismissed for publicly challenging a colleague’s silence&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;In other words, he publicly harassed a colleague who (for what could be any number of perfectly valid reasons) preferred not to publicly state their beliefs. That would seem to me to be an eminently reasonable reason to fire someone. If you go around publicly harassing your colleagues to publicly state their political opinions, you deserve to be fired.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jxramos</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s not mob rule it&amp;#x27;s those who run the outrage-triathlon where those with the highest blood pressure and boil over tops win. If they can&amp;#x27;t steam anybody up to join them from their effervescence alone they deserve to fall to the wayside and get out the way. The outrage train is coming.&lt;p&gt;We must ask ourselves daily, &amp;quot;what am I supposed to be outraged about now?&amp;quot;</text></comment>
<story><title>Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-protests-firing/facebook-fires-employee-who-protested-its-inaction-on-trump-tweets-idUSKBN23J35Y</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>holler</author><text>Agree. It&amp;#x27;s endemic of the political and cultural climate we&amp;#x27;re in right now, where mob rule is becoming the status quo. Personal politics should be just that, personal.</text></item><item><author>rubber_duck</author><text>He decides because he believes something strongly it permits him to publicly attack someone he works with... Imagine having to deal with this guy in a team when he has a strong opinion on something the team disagrees with ...</text></item><item><author>mgleitub</author><text>Indeed -- here is some additional context that the article doesn&amp;#x27;t provide:&lt;p&gt;The fired employee Tweeted today:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;In the interest of transparency, I was let go for calling out an employee’s inaction here on Twitter. I stand by what I said. They didn’t give me the chance to quit [0]&lt;p&gt;He then specifically cited [1] the Tweet in question that was the cause:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;I asked @Vjeux to follow @reactjs&amp;#x27;s lead and add a statement of support to Recoil&amp;#x27;s docs and he privately refused, claiming open source shouldn&amp;#x27;t be political.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;Intentionally not making a statement is already political. Consider that next time you think of Recoil. [2]&lt;p&gt;This is specifically targeting an individual front-end engineer at FB, which in my own estimation crosses the line from criticism of executives or general policy, to specifically trying to instigate public outrage against a co-worker. If such actions were directed at me, I would definitely consider it as contributing to a hostile work environment. It all strikes me as a modern-day example of &amp;quot;Havel&amp;#x27;s greengrocer&amp;quot; [3].&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1271522288752455680&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1271522288752455680&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1271531477209976832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1271531477209976832&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1267895488205869057&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;aweary&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1267895488205869057&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;The_Power_of_the_Powerless#Havel&amp;#x27;s_greengrocer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;The_Power_of_the_Powerless#Hav...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>nsainsbury</author><text>I think a key phrase here is &amp;quot;he was dismissed for publicly challenging a colleague’s silence&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;In other words, he publicly harassed a colleague who (for what could be any number of perfectly valid reasons) preferred not to publicly state their beliefs. That would seem to me to be an eminently reasonable reason to fire someone. If you go around publicly harassing your colleagues to publicly state their political opinions, you deserve to be fired.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rumanator</author><text>&amp;gt; Agree. It&amp;#x27;s endemic of the political and cultural climate we&amp;#x27;re in right now, where mob rule is becoming the status quo.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not sure we should mark this down as a political and cultural climate thing. I&amp;#x27;m more convinced the guy was simply an asshole and it so happens that he felt strongly about politics.</text></comment>