<story><title>Tesla Engineer Says Musk Overstated Tesla Autopilot Reality</title><url>https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/musk-s-autopilot-claims-don-t-match-reality-tesla-engineer-says</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>spamalot159</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve been acquainted with a number of engineers at various autonomous vehicle companies and they are some of the most reserved people when it comes to the reality of autonomous driving. Many of them going so far as to say they would never  use one for themselves now or in the near future.&lt;p&gt;I think when domain experts speak up like this we should listen. The autonomous vehicle technology seems like it has a long way to go.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mrtksn</author><text>I don’t know, I used to ride an autonomous vehicle every day in London. DLR is autonomous, the catch is - it has its own lane and it’s on rails. Also, someone sits in the car during rush hours, just in case.&lt;p&gt;Here’s how it looks to be in the front car of the train when there’s a supervisor: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;imgur.com&amp;#x2F;geFIidK&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;imgur.com&amp;#x2F;geFIidK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Outside of the rush hour, that lid is closed and it feels like the Half-Life train at beginning of the game.&lt;p&gt;I know it’s not possible to build trains to everywhere and USA is huge but I suspect that the answer for self driving would be somewhere in between of human+ level intelligence and dedicated infrastructure.</text></comment>
<story><title>Tesla Engineer Says Musk Overstated Tesla Autopilot Reality</title><url>https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/musk-s-autopilot-claims-don-t-match-reality-tesla-engineer-says</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>spamalot159</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve been acquainted with a number of engineers at various autonomous vehicle companies and they are some of the most reserved people when it comes to the reality of autonomous driving. Many of them going so far as to say they would never  use one for themselves now or in the near future.&lt;p&gt;I think when domain experts speak up like this we should listen. The autonomous vehicle technology seems like it has a long way to go.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wutbrodo</author><text>FWIW, I work in AV eng&amp;#x2F;research and have never heard someone say this. Most of the people I know in the space are pretty clear-headed about how dangerous human driving is.&lt;p&gt;We are generally less optimistic about timing, but that was more true a couple years ago (before all the big cos&amp;#x27; 2019 deadlines got pushed back) than it is now. Current timelines seem like an achievable challenge to me, and I don&amp;#x27;t think I&amp;#x27;m unusually optimistic.&lt;p&gt;Musk&amp;#x27;s timeline pronouncements, as usual, just aren&amp;#x27;t taken seriously (and imo hurt the industry&amp;#x27;s credibility). I like the guy and respect what he&amp;#x27;s done, but for whatever reason he says really out-there things that are best ignored until he shows the receipts.</text></comment>