<story><title>I don&apos;t want to be a full-fullstack developer</title><url>https://artur-martsinkovskyi.github.io//2019/i-dont-want-to-be-fullstack/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dgzl</author><text>I recently was looking for new work. When trying to apply to Developer opportunities, I realized that recruiters largely didn&amp;#x27;t know what they were talking about.&lt;p&gt;Many times I was told that my Computer Science degree, large school projects, personal projects such as random apps and maintaining an Arch Linux setup, awards such as winning 1st place in a Google Hackathon, several years of student work including iOS development work, and my 3 years industry experience as a Technical Lead somehow was less valuable than people graduating from coding bootcamps.&lt;p&gt;I was told by many people that I was not qualified for a Junior Developer position, but people coming out of these bootcamps were considered &amp;quot;Seniors&amp;quot;.  I was told by one recruiter that my &amp;quot;degree is almost useless&amp;quot;.</text></item><item><author>20years</author><text>The problem that I have seen is most companies don&amp;#x27;t want to pay a skilled full-stack developer what they are worth. They think $100k is the going rate and unfortunately a lot of junior developers are calling themselves full-stack and jumping at that salary. Then the lines get blurred and the true value of a full-stack developer gets diminished.</text></item><item><author>root_axis</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;As years go by the industry is going deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole of developer-focused engineering process and developers go on to combine more and more responsibilities beneath the surface of single cranium.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do you think developer salaries are so high? As the advancement and sophistication of open-source and SaaS offerings increasingly empowers individual developers to do more for businesses, so do developers leverage those capabilities to demand higher salaries and become more and more integral, &lt;i&gt;as individuals&lt;/i&gt;, to the business process. The natural consequence of this is that companies have increased their expectations across the board because they ultimately get more value out of a highly paid full-stack than paying three moderately smaller salaries to a FEE, BEE and a manager&amp;#x2F;architect&amp;#x2F;SME to coordinate their efforts.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>avip</author><text>I recently had a recruiter questioning my application for a &amp;quot;senior developer&amp;quot; role as &amp;quot;You seem to have no background in software&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;I told her I have &amp;quot;a background&amp;quot; of well over 10 years as a developer, and consider it my profession.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;So why did you study Biology&amp;quot;? she replied.</text></comment>
<story><title>I don&apos;t want to be a full-fullstack developer</title><url>https://artur-martsinkovskyi.github.io//2019/i-dont-want-to-be-fullstack/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dgzl</author><text>I recently was looking for new work. When trying to apply to Developer opportunities, I realized that recruiters largely didn&amp;#x27;t know what they were talking about.&lt;p&gt;Many times I was told that my Computer Science degree, large school projects, personal projects such as random apps and maintaining an Arch Linux setup, awards such as winning 1st place in a Google Hackathon, several years of student work including iOS development work, and my 3 years industry experience as a Technical Lead somehow was less valuable than people graduating from coding bootcamps.&lt;p&gt;I was told by many people that I was not qualified for a Junior Developer position, but people coming out of these bootcamps were considered &amp;quot;Seniors&amp;quot;.  I was told by one recruiter that my &amp;quot;degree is almost useless&amp;quot;.</text></item><item><author>20years</author><text>The problem that I have seen is most companies don&amp;#x27;t want to pay a skilled full-stack developer what they are worth. They think $100k is the going rate and unfortunately a lot of junior developers are calling themselves full-stack and jumping at that salary. Then the lines get blurred and the true value of a full-stack developer gets diminished.</text></item><item><author>root_axis</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;As years go by the industry is going deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole of developer-focused engineering process and developers go on to combine more and more responsibilities beneath the surface of single cranium.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do you think developer salaries are so high? As the advancement and sophistication of open-source and SaaS offerings increasingly empowers individual developers to do more for businesses, so do developers leverage those capabilities to demand higher salaries and become more and more integral, &lt;i&gt;as individuals&lt;/i&gt;, to the business process. The natural consequence of this is that companies have increased their expectations across the board because they ultimately get more value out of a highly paid full-stack than paying three moderately smaller salaries to a FEE, BEE and a manager&amp;#x2F;architect&amp;#x2F;SME to coordinate their efforts.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>chimpburger</author><text>Unbelievable. Three years of industry experience alone would qualify you beyond a junior position. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.altexsoft.com&amp;#x2F;media&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;09&amp;#x2F;unnamed-14.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.altexsoft.com&amp;#x2F;media&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;09&amp;#x2F;unnamed-14.png&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>