<story><title>YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asian Males, Lawsuit Says</title><url>https://www.wsj.com/articles/youtube-hiring-for-some-positions-excluded-white-and-asian-males-lawsuit-says-1519948013</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>throwaway0255</author><text>Tell that to the white and asian males who get rejected on the basis of their race and gender despite having worked their entire lives to be the most qualified and technically adept candidate.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m pretty sure impostor syndrome is a problem they would love to have.&lt;p&gt;Instead they got the entire course of their careers (and lives) stepped on by bigoted racists and sexists.&lt;p&gt;I know your comment has to be the top one because it turns this whole thing back into more sympathy for women and minorities, but this is literally an article about white and asian males being overtly discriminated against on the basis of race and gender. Can &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; of the conversation be about that?</text></item><item><author>danieltillett</author><text>The thing I hate about actions like this is what it does to talented people who fit some diversity quota checklist, both in the perception they have of themselves and those of other people. If you are a talented melanin-rich woman you are going to face both heightened impostor syndrome and dismissal by others that you only got the job because of some quota. Not good for anyone.&lt;p&gt;There are no easy solutions, but it would help I think if all effort was concentrated on removing hurdles rather than patching problems downstream with lazy fixes.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>danso</author><text>The GP was arguing a point that is agreed-upon by many who argue against affirmative action — that the minorities ostensibly helped are harmed in the bigger picture. Yet you rip on the GP for not thinking enough about the whites and Asians who are also the victims of affirmative action? You could be a bit reflexively polarized about this issue.</text></comment>
<story><title>YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asian Males, Lawsuit Says</title><url>https://www.wsj.com/articles/youtube-hiring-for-some-positions-excluded-white-and-asian-males-lawsuit-says-1519948013</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>throwaway0255</author><text>Tell that to the white and asian males who get rejected on the basis of their race and gender despite having worked their entire lives to be the most qualified and technically adept candidate.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m pretty sure impostor syndrome is a problem they would love to have.&lt;p&gt;Instead they got the entire course of their careers (and lives) stepped on by bigoted racists and sexists.&lt;p&gt;I know your comment has to be the top one because it turns this whole thing back into more sympathy for women and minorities, but this is literally an article about white and asian males being overtly discriminated against on the basis of race and gender. Can &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; of the conversation be about that?</text></item><item><author>danieltillett</author><text>The thing I hate about actions like this is what it does to talented people who fit some diversity quota checklist, both in the perception they have of themselves and those of other people. If you are a talented melanin-rich woman you are going to face both heightened impostor syndrome and dismissal by others that you only got the job because of some quota. Not good for anyone.&lt;p&gt;There are no easy solutions, but it would help I think if all effort was concentrated on removing hurdles rather than patching problems downstream with lazy fixes.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>spicymaki</author><text>I am trying to wrap my head around this. The level of black employees at Google is at 2% and actually dropped since 2016. How fair is it to say from a statistical point of view that if you did not get hired, you lost out to a lesser qualified black person and not someone from a white or asian of equal or more qualifications? I pick on the black statistic specifically because at the end of the day the blow back for these perceived diversity programs lands on this group in particular.</text></comment>