<story><title>AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products</title><url>https://www.aisnakeoil.com/p/ai-companies-are-pivoting-from-creating</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dyauspitr</author><text>Who cares. I literally use ChatGPT 30 times a day. It answers incredibly complex queries along with citations I can verify. Isn’t “this not good enough yet” line getting old? There nothing else that can estimate the number of cinder blocks I need to use for a project and account for the volume of concrete required for it (while taking into consideration the actual available volume available in a cinder block and settling) with a few quick sentences I speak to it. I can think of literally thousands of things I have asked that would have taken hours of googling that I can get an answer for in minutes.&lt;p&gt;I think the problem is you haven’t shifted your mindset to using AI correctly yet.&lt;p&gt;Edit: More everyday examples from just the last 3 days&lt;p&gt;- Use carbide bits to drill into rocks. Googling “best bits for drilling rocks” doesn’t bring up anything obvious about carbide but it was the main thing chatGPT suggested.&lt;p&gt;- gave it dimensions for a barn I’m building and asked it how many gallons of paint I would need of a particular type. I could probably work that out myself but it’s a bunch of lookups (what’s the total sq footage, how many sq ft per gallon, what type of paint stands up to a lot of scuffing etc.)&lt;p&gt;- coarse threaded inserts for softwood when I asked it for threaded insert recommendations. I would have probably ended up not caring and fine threaded slips right out of pine.&lt;p&gt;- lookup ingredients in a face cream and list out any harms (with citations) for any of them.&lt;p&gt;- speeds and feeds for acrylic cutting for my particular CNC. Don’t use a downcut bit because it might cause a fire, something I didn’t consider.&lt;p&gt;- an explanation of relevant NEMA outlets. Something that’s very hard to figure out if you’re just dropped into it via googling.</text></item><item><author>dragontamer</author><text>One of my local car dealerships is using an chat system of some kind (probably an LLM?).&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s awful and a complete waste of time. I&amp;#x27;m not sure if LLMs are getting good use yet &amp;#x2F; general chatbots are good or ready for business use.</text></item><item><author>necroforest</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t entirely disagree with you, but &amp;quot;what products do people want&amp;quot; is overly conservative. Pre-ChatGPT, very few people wanted a (more or less) general purpose chatbot.</text></item><item><author>ryandrake</author><text>Companies keep going at it the wrong way. Instead of saying &amp;quot;We have AI, let&amp;#x27;s find products we can make out of AI!&amp;quot; they should be saying, &amp;quot;What products do people want, let&amp;#x27;s use whatever tools we have (including maybe AI) to make them.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;The idea that a company is an AI company should be as ridiculous as a company being a Python company. &amp;quot;We are Python-first, have Python experts, and all of our products are made with Python. Our customers want their apps to have Python in them. We just have to &amp;#x27;productize Python&amp;#x27; and find the right killer app for Python and we&amp;#x27;ll be successful!&amp;quot; Going at it from the wrong direction. Replace Python in that quote with AI, and you probably have something a real company has said in 2024.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>johnnyanmac</author><text>&amp;gt;Who cares.&lt;p&gt;clearly anyone trying to buy a car, which is already an ordeal with a human as is.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;I literally use ChatGPT 30 times a day&lt;p&gt;good for you? I use Google. mos of my queries aren&amp;#x27;t complex.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;Isn’t “this not good enough yet” line getting old?&lt;p&gt;as long as companies pretend 2024 AI can replace skilled labor, no. It&amp;#x27;s getting old how many more snake oil salesmen keep pretending that I can just use ChatGPT to refactor this very hot loop of performance sensitive code. And no ChatGPT, I do not have the time budget (real time) to hook into some distributed load for that function.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m sure in a decade it will wow me. But I prefer to for it to stay in its lane and I stay in mine for that decade.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;There nothing else that can estimate the number of cinder blocks I need to use for a project&lt;p&gt;is Calculus really this insurmontable feat to be defending big tech over? I&amp;#x27;m not a great mathmatican, but give them excel&amp;#x2F;sheets and they can do the same in minutes.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;I can think of literally thousands of things I have asked that would have taken hours of googling that I can get an answer for in minutes.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m glad it works out for you. I&amp;#x27;m more scrutinous in my searches and I see that about half the time its sources are a bit off at best, and dangerously wrong at worst. 50&amp;#x2F;50 isn&amp;#x27;t worth any potential time saved for what I research.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;I think the problem is you haven’t shifted your mindset to using AI correctly yet.&lt;p&gt;perhaps. But for my line of work that&amp;#x27;s probably for the best.</text></comment>
<story><title>AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products</title><url>https://www.aisnakeoil.com/p/ai-companies-are-pivoting-from-creating</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dyauspitr</author><text>Who cares. I literally use ChatGPT 30 times a day. It answers incredibly complex queries along with citations I can verify. Isn’t “this not good enough yet” line getting old? There nothing else that can estimate the number of cinder blocks I need to use for a project and account for the volume of concrete required for it (while taking into consideration the actual available volume available in a cinder block and settling) with a few quick sentences I speak to it. I can think of literally thousands of things I have asked that would have taken hours of googling that I can get an answer for in minutes.&lt;p&gt;I think the problem is you haven’t shifted your mindset to using AI correctly yet.&lt;p&gt;Edit: More everyday examples from just the last 3 days&lt;p&gt;- Use carbide bits to drill into rocks. Googling “best bits for drilling rocks” doesn’t bring up anything obvious about carbide but it was the main thing chatGPT suggested.&lt;p&gt;- gave it dimensions for a barn I’m building and asked it how many gallons of paint I would need of a particular type. I could probably work that out myself but it’s a bunch of lookups (what’s the total sq footage, how many sq ft per gallon, what type of paint stands up to a lot of scuffing etc.)&lt;p&gt;- coarse threaded inserts for softwood when I asked it for threaded insert recommendations. I would have probably ended up not caring and fine threaded slips right out of pine.&lt;p&gt;- lookup ingredients in a face cream and list out any harms (with citations) for any of them.&lt;p&gt;- speeds and feeds for acrylic cutting for my particular CNC. Don’t use a downcut bit because it might cause a fire, something I didn’t consider.&lt;p&gt;- an explanation of relevant NEMA outlets. Something that’s very hard to figure out if you’re just dropped into it via googling.</text></item><item><author>dragontamer</author><text>One of my local car dealerships is using an chat system of some kind (probably an LLM?).&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s awful and a complete waste of time. I&amp;#x27;m not sure if LLMs are getting good use yet &amp;#x2F; general chatbots are good or ready for business use.</text></item><item><author>necroforest</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t entirely disagree with you, but &amp;quot;what products do people want&amp;quot; is overly conservative. Pre-ChatGPT, very few people wanted a (more or less) general purpose chatbot.</text></item><item><author>ryandrake</author><text>Companies keep going at it the wrong way. Instead of saying &amp;quot;We have AI, let&amp;#x27;s find products we can make out of AI!&amp;quot; they should be saying, &amp;quot;What products do people want, let&amp;#x27;s use whatever tools we have (including maybe AI) to make them.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;The idea that a company is an AI company should be as ridiculous as a company being a Python company. &amp;quot;We are Python-first, have Python experts, and all of our products are made with Python. Our customers want their apps to have Python in them. We just have to &amp;#x27;productize Python&amp;#x27; and find the right killer app for Python and we&amp;#x27;ll be successful!&amp;quot; Going at it from the wrong direction. Replace Python in that quote with AI, and you probably have something a real company has said in 2024.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>preordained</author><text>&amp;quot;I think the problem is you haven’t shifted your mindset to using AI correctly yet&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;There is an indictment of AI &amp;quot;products&amp;quot; if I ever heard one</text></comment>