<story><title>New Apple maps app under fire from users</title><url>http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19659736</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>enraged_camel</author><text>The only real complaints people tend to have about their old iPhones is slow performance, and that&apos;s pretty normal. IPhones do not have the &quot;apps randomly breaking or giving odd error messages&quot; issue.</text></item><item><author>eavc</author><text>Is it a Galaxy Nexus? Because if not, you&apos;re talking about a pretty old device, and I hear people complain about their two+ year old iPhones all the time.</text></item><item><author>anu_gupta</author><text>I have an Android device and I really don&apos;t like it. It&apos;s a Nexus.&lt;p&gt;Oh, and to be honest as well, I don&apos;t hear many complaints from the iPhone crowd.</text></item><item><author>lawdawg</author><text>I hear stories like this all the time, but every single person I know that has an Android has very few, if any, problems (most own Samsungs or Nexus phones though).  I mean to be honest, I hear a lot more complaining from the iPhone crowd, but that might be more because they expect more and things like the battery dying after 10 hours of moderate use really piss them off.</text></item><item><author>GBKS</author><text>I&apos;d also recommend to base your decision on the overall service you get over the 1-2 years you&apos;ll own your phone. I&apos;ve had an Android phone the past 2 years and am completely disillusioned with Android/Google/HTC. Everything is great for a few months, then issue after issue kept piling up.&lt;p&gt;For example, the first system update my phone had problems installing. It took two weeks of Googling and Verizon store visits to figure out that I had to do a factory reset for it to work. The second system update has been lingering on my phone for about 3 months. The install process simply never finishes, no matter what I do.&lt;p&gt;Second, apps simply stop working one by one. Flipboard doesn&apos;t manage to load images anymore. Wunderlist can&apos;t sync anymore. Installing Instagram breaks the built-in camera and gallery completely. Lots of random errors in other apps. The weather app stopped automatically refreshing. The alarm app doesn&apos;t go off anymore. Not to mention the application cache limitation to 150MB. So even though I have 500MB available storage, I can&apos;t install more apps, since they don&apos;t have room for temporary files. If that&apos;s full, apps simply stop working (only fix I found was a 1-hour phone-rooting process).&lt;p&gt;The touchscreen sometimes stops responding (off/on fixes that). Tapping a bookmark on my home screen loads the browser, but not the actual link. The phone randomly restarts at times. The unlock screen started misbehaving recently. And on and on.&lt;p&gt;In comparison, my 4 year old iPod Touch is more reliable and more fun to use than my 2-year old HTC. My 3.5 year old MacBook just upgraded to iOS6 and everything runs smooth as butter.&lt;p&gt;So my experience is that Android phones get worse over time, and Apple devices get better over time (or at least stay the same). Of course, your experience may differ, and maybe Android is more mature by now. But I&apos;d highly recommend not to base a switch on a few features, but to take the overall service you will receive over two years into consideration.</text></item><item><author>cletus</author><text>Since the passing of Steve Jobs there has understandably been a lot of speculation about what will happen to Apple given Steve&apos;s laser-like focus on user experience above almost all else. Some self-proclaimed &quot;power users&quot; did of course rail against the Apple ecosystem but like most things Apple does (did?) it was right most of the time for most users.&lt;p&gt;I&apos;ve been an avid iPhone user since the iPhone 4 and have bought every iPad so far. iOS 6 may mark a turning point to me such that the 4S that I have now may well be my last iPhone. My phone for me is probably beyond anything else a way of getting places (ie maps). Even more than phone calls, SMS or the Internet.&lt;p&gt;I sympathize with the position that Apple wants to control the entire experience but I really am dumbfounded that they&apos;ve sacrificed user experience to do it. So much so that I don&apos;t think I want to update to iOS 6.&lt;p&gt;When compared to Android, the one remaining pillar for the iPhone for me is battery life. The 4S simply trumps any Android I&apos;ve used or witnessed to date. I typically have to charge my phone only every 2-3 days. The Droid I have (which admittedly was a terrible phone) is lucky to last a day. The Galaxy S3 is better but still...&lt;p&gt;I look forward to the next Android phone running out-of-the-box 4.1 (or whatever the latest release is at that point).</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rustynails</author><text>See my post above. In many ways, I regret buying an iphone4. My wife&apos;s experience with nexus s has been much more hassle free than mine.
There are definitely things I prefer on iPhone. One case in point is that although I often see crashes on apps, they just shut down quietly and I restart. Android let&apos;s my wife know that an app has crashed.
I also upgraded my wife&apos;s phone to android 4.1. It took 5-10 mins total. I&apos;m dreading my IOS6 update which I am estimating will take me 8h (inc. reinstall of my purchases via cydia - which I am forced to do if I want the functionality that I WANT vs what apple lets me have).</text></comment>
<story><title>New Apple maps app under fire from users</title><url>http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19659736</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>enraged_camel</author><text>The only real complaints people tend to have about their old iPhones is slow performance, and that&apos;s pretty normal. IPhones do not have the &quot;apps randomly breaking or giving odd error messages&quot; issue.</text></item><item><author>eavc</author><text>Is it a Galaxy Nexus? Because if not, you&apos;re talking about a pretty old device, and I hear people complain about their two+ year old iPhones all the time.</text></item><item><author>anu_gupta</author><text>I have an Android device and I really don&apos;t like it. It&apos;s a Nexus.&lt;p&gt;Oh, and to be honest as well, I don&apos;t hear many complaints from the iPhone crowd.</text></item><item><author>lawdawg</author><text>I hear stories like this all the time, but every single person I know that has an Android has very few, if any, problems (most own Samsungs or Nexus phones though).  I mean to be honest, I hear a lot more complaining from the iPhone crowd, but that might be more because they expect more and things like the battery dying after 10 hours of moderate use really piss them off.</text></item><item><author>GBKS</author><text>I&apos;d also recommend to base your decision on the overall service you get over the 1-2 years you&apos;ll own your phone. I&apos;ve had an Android phone the past 2 years and am completely disillusioned with Android/Google/HTC. Everything is great for a few months, then issue after issue kept piling up.&lt;p&gt;For example, the first system update my phone had problems installing. It took two weeks of Googling and Verizon store visits to figure out that I had to do a factory reset for it to work. The second system update has been lingering on my phone for about 3 months. The install process simply never finishes, no matter what I do.&lt;p&gt;Second, apps simply stop working one by one. Flipboard doesn&apos;t manage to load images anymore. Wunderlist can&apos;t sync anymore. Installing Instagram breaks the built-in camera and gallery completely. Lots of random errors in other apps. The weather app stopped automatically refreshing. The alarm app doesn&apos;t go off anymore. Not to mention the application cache limitation to 150MB. So even though I have 500MB available storage, I can&apos;t install more apps, since they don&apos;t have room for temporary files. If that&apos;s full, apps simply stop working (only fix I found was a 1-hour phone-rooting process).&lt;p&gt;The touchscreen sometimes stops responding (off/on fixes that). Tapping a bookmark on my home screen loads the browser, but not the actual link. The phone randomly restarts at times. The unlock screen started misbehaving recently. And on and on.&lt;p&gt;In comparison, my 4 year old iPod Touch is more reliable and more fun to use than my 2-year old HTC. My 3.5 year old MacBook just upgraded to iOS6 and everything runs smooth as butter.&lt;p&gt;So my experience is that Android phones get worse over time, and Apple devices get better over time (or at least stay the same). Of course, your experience may differ, and maybe Android is more mature by now. But I&apos;d highly recommend not to base a switch on a few features, but to take the overall service you will receive over two years into consideration.</text></item><item><author>cletus</author><text>Since the passing of Steve Jobs there has understandably been a lot of speculation about what will happen to Apple given Steve&apos;s laser-like focus on user experience above almost all else. Some self-proclaimed &quot;power users&quot; did of course rail against the Apple ecosystem but like most things Apple does (did?) it was right most of the time for most users.&lt;p&gt;I&apos;ve been an avid iPhone user since the iPhone 4 and have bought every iPad so far. iOS 6 may mark a turning point to me such that the 4S that I have now may well be my last iPhone. My phone for me is probably beyond anything else a way of getting places (ie maps). Even more than phone calls, SMS or the Internet.&lt;p&gt;I sympathize with the position that Apple wants to control the entire experience but I really am dumbfounded that they&apos;ve sacrificed user experience to do it. So much so that I don&apos;t think I want to update to iOS 6.&lt;p&gt;When compared to Android, the one remaining pillar for the iPhone for me is battery life. The 4S simply trumps any Android I&apos;ve used or witnessed to date. I typically have to charge my phone only every 2-3 days. The Droid I have (which admittedly was a terrible phone) is lucky to last a day. The Galaxy S3 is better but still...&lt;p&gt;I look forward to the next Android phone running out-of-the-box 4.1 (or whatever the latest release is at that point).</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mladenkovacevic</author><text>Wasn&apos;t there a study done recently where they determined that applications on iPhones actually crash more often than on an average Android, except that no error messages are thrown up at all.. you&apos;re just sent back to the home screen so the user thinks &quot;Oh I must&apos;ve pressed the Home button by accident&quot;&lt;p&gt;My own anecdotal Nexus experience (I own the Google updated GSM version): no crashes (although there was a brief syncing outage last night), updates are smooth and fast, and the whole &quot;it just works&quot; thing applies.</text></comment>