<story><title>Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/czech-startup-founders-turn-billionaires-without-vc-help</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Philip-J-Fry</author><text>Thank the gods for JetBrains. I love their software.&lt;p&gt;Excellent business model, I get to keep the software I bought when the license expires. Never forced to continually pay for something you don&amp;#x27;t see value in updating. I think that&amp;#x27;s one of the key factors which drives them to continue to improve their products. If future version of their products wasn&amp;#x27;t vastly improved over the previous then people wouldn&amp;#x27;t upgrade because their current version serves them perfectly fine. And if you don&amp;#x27;t like this years update, maybe you&amp;#x27;ll like next years. No downsides whatsoever.&lt;p&gt;Never used any of their TeamCity&amp;#x2F;Spaces stuff but it looks cool. I can definitely say I&amp;#x27;m a fan of their IDEs though. Use them every day.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>welearnednothng</author><text>I ran (self-hosted) TeamCity at a division of Disney for years with hundreds of projects across teams with lots of complex dependencies. To this day (though I haven&amp;#x27;t kept up as much in recent years), it&amp;#x27;s far and away the most powerful CI system I&amp;#x27;ve ever used. Rock solid stability, to boot. And it&amp;#x27;s only become better and better over the years.&lt;p&gt;Does that mean it&amp;#x27;s right for every job? Not at all. Sometimes you just need simple and accessible. Things like CircleCI or Travis or Heroku&amp;#x27;s CI. But not Jenkins. I put Jenkins into the same category as TeamCity, and it falls far short.&lt;p&gt;If you&amp;#x27;ve outgrown some of the other options and need really powerful CI, I can&amp;#x27;t recommend TeamCity enough.</text></comment>
<story><title>Jetbrains founders turn billionaires without VC help</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/czech-startup-founders-turn-billionaires-without-vc-help</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Philip-J-Fry</author><text>Thank the gods for JetBrains. I love their software.&lt;p&gt;Excellent business model, I get to keep the software I bought when the license expires. Never forced to continually pay for something you don&amp;#x27;t see value in updating. I think that&amp;#x27;s one of the key factors which drives them to continue to improve their products. If future version of their products wasn&amp;#x27;t vastly improved over the previous then people wouldn&amp;#x27;t upgrade because their current version serves them perfectly fine. And if you don&amp;#x27;t like this years update, maybe you&amp;#x27;ll like next years. No downsides whatsoever.&lt;p&gt;Never used any of their TeamCity&amp;#x2F;Spaces stuff but it looks cool. I can definitely say I&amp;#x27;m a fan of their IDEs though. Use them every day.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>vbezhenar</author><text>It is interesting that they initially offered subscription model without unexpirable license. But because of community backlash they changed it and people seem to be happy with the outcome.&lt;p&gt;Listen to your users.</text></comment>