<story><title>Update from Chef</title><url>https://blog.chef.io/2019/09/23/an-important-update-from-chef/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tracker1</author><text>There are plenty of politicians and candidates advocating for abolishing CBP&amp;#x2F;ICE.</text></item><item><author>happytoexplain</author><text>&amp;gt;Police get a lot of hate on HN because of some obviously over-the-top policies that need to be corrected. But we would have major problems without law enforcement&lt;p&gt;This seems like a fantastic leap. I think there are zero or borderline zero instances of calls, &lt;i&gt;even implicitly&lt;/i&gt;, for the abolishment of law due to individual horrors.</text></item><item><author>ARandomerDude</author><text>The problem with this is the mob too quickly concludes CBP provides &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; valuable service to the nation (i.e., service worth contract support) because of a policy I don&amp;#x27;t like.  That really is unjustified, I think.&lt;p&gt;The same is true of law enforcement generally.  Police get a lot of hate on HN because of some obviously over-the-top policies that need to be corrected.  But we would have major problems without law enforcement, including CBP.&lt;p&gt;We should address the issues without taking them to the extremes.  This applies pretty broadly in politics these days, sadly.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>snowwrestler</author><text>Calls to abolish ICE are mostly based on the opinion that the current state of its management and culture irreparably harms its ability to lawfully pursue its mission. Agree or not with that opinion, but it&amp;#x27;s not an opinion to cease law enforcement in general.</text></comment>
<story><title>Update from Chef</title><url>https://blog.chef.io/2019/09/23/an-important-update-from-chef/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tracker1</author><text>There are plenty of politicians and candidates advocating for abolishing CBP&amp;#x2F;ICE.</text></item><item><author>happytoexplain</author><text>&amp;gt;Police get a lot of hate on HN because of some obviously over-the-top policies that need to be corrected. But we would have major problems without law enforcement&lt;p&gt;This seems like a fantastic leap. I think there are zero or borderline zero instances of calls, &lt;i&gt;even implicitly&lt;/i&gt;, for the abolishment of law due to individual horrors.</text></item><item><author>ARandomerDude</author><text>The problem with this is the mob too quickly concludes CBP provides &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; valuable service to the nation (i.e., service worth contract support) because of a policy I don&amp;#x27;t like.  That really is unjustified, I think.&lt;p&gt;The same is true of law enforcement generally.  Police get a lot of hate on HN because of some obviously over-the-top policies that need to be corrected.  But we would have major problems without law enforcement, including CBP.&lt;p&gt;We should address the issues without taking them to the extremes.  This applies pretty broadly in politics these days, sadly.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dragonwriter</author><text>ICE, not CBP.&lt;p&gt;And abolishing a particular enforcement agency isn&amp;#x27;t abolishing law. Law around the border didn&amp;#x27;t disappear when INS was dismantled.</text></comment>