<story><title>NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans&apos; data with Israel</title><url>http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>btilly</author><text>The shoe I&amp;#x27;m still waiting for is whether the FBI is willing to use the sworn affidavit of foreign intelligence people with access to American intelligence as grounds for warrants issued under the 4th amendment.&lt;p&gt;In plain English, if another country tells us which Americans to go after, do we issue warrants and actually go after them?  I&amp;#x27;d be willing to bet money that we do, but nobody will want to admit to it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>axus</author><text>They use parallel reconstruction, creating pretexts to stop someone at the border&amp;#x2F;driving.  Then they fabricate a &amp;quot;probable cause&amp;quot; to to search without a warrant.  It&amp;#x27;s kind of like using privilege escalation to hack into a system, except no patch is ever made.</text></comment>
<story><title>NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans&apos; data with Israel</title><url>http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>btilly</author><text>The shoe I&amp;#x27;m still waiting for is whether the FBI is willing to use the sworn affidavit of foreign intelligence people with access to American intelligence as grounds for warrants issued under the 4th amendment.&lt;p&gt;In plain English, if another country tells us which Americans to go after, do we issue warrants and actually go after them?  I&amp;#x27;d be willing to bet money that we do, but nobody will want to admit to it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>superuser2</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intelligence-laundering&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.eff.org&amp;#x2F;deeplinks&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;08&amp;#x2F;dea-and-nsa-team-intel...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;We already know they are using intelligence data to tip off police to invent reasons to stop cars (i.e. 2mph speeding ticket) and find drugs.&lt;p&gt;This would be trickier for warrant affidavits because (I believe) those become available to defense counsel during discovery. They could hide the identity of a confidential informant from defense counsel, but I believe the judge is entitled to verify the legitimacy of CIs and might do so if the defense claimed that the probable cause came from the NSA.&lt;p&gt;Local LEOs have already been caught phoning in &amp;quot;anonymous tips&amp;quot; to themselves&amp;#x2F;their teams to create probable cause for surveillance already conducted. This was before and unrelated to the NSA revelations.</text></comment>