<story><title>Norwegian lawyer had visa withdrawn after private chat with client on Facebook</title><url>http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&amp;tl=en&amp;js=n&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10104089&amp;act=url</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>belorn</author><text>Be you a lawyer talking privileged to a client, a priest talking privileged to a follower, a hot-line worker talking privileged to someone thinking about suicide, or a social service person talking to a child who been sexually assaulted, every ones communication is equally collected.&lt;p&gt;This is after all the result of ubiquitous surveillance. When people learn about it, the reaction is very simple. people stop talking. They do not call the lawyer. They don&amp;#x27;t call the priest. The person thinking about suicide won&amp;#x27;t call the hot-line, and the sexually assaulted child will stay quiet in fear of people finding out. After Germany introduced their ubiquitous surveillance law, this was exactly what the statistics ended up showing. I wonder, while hoping not, if the same result will happen in the US too after the current wave of news.</text></comment>
<story><title>Norwegian lawyer had visa withdrawn after private chat with client on Facebook</title><url>http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&amp;tl=en&amp;js=n&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10104089&amp;act=url</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>Vivtek</author><text>Ah. This one is actually kind of credible.&lt;p&gt;But if the client was already accused of terrorism, then this monitoring was on his end, and surely covered by a specific warrant. So this isn&amp;#x27;t (presumably) the kind of massive data hoovering that is the primary concern; every country does this kind of thing.  (Back when I was running Despammed.com I&amp;#x27;d get requests from various LEOs - one came with a real live subpoena for information related to an identity theft ring, and one was from Italian authorities pursuing an insult to Mary.)&lt;p&gt;Where it gets to be a concern is revoking a guy&amp;#x27;s visa because he&amp;#x27;s defending a terror suspect.</text></comment>