<story><title>OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/technology/sam-altmans-ouster-openai-was-precipitated-by-letter-board-about-ai-breakthrough-2023-11-22/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cduzz</author><text>I was talking to my (12 year old) son about parts of math he finds boring.  He said that he thinks absolute value is absurdly easy and extremely boring.  I asked him if there was anything that might make it more interesting, he said &amp;quot;maybe complex numbers&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;So I asked him &amp;quot;what would the absolute value of i+1 be?&amp;quot; he thinks for a little bit and says &amp;quot;square root of 2&amp;quot; and I ask him &amp;quot;what about the absolute value of 2i + 2?&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;square root of 8&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I ask him &amp;quot;why?&amp;quot; and he said &amp;quot;absolute value is distance; in the complex plane the absolute value is the hypotenuse of the imaginary and real numbers.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;So -- first of all, this was a little surprising to me that he&amp;#x27;d thought about this sort of thing having mostly just watched youtube videos about math, and second, this sort of understanding is a result of some manner of understanding the underlying mechanisms and not a result of just having a huge dictionary of synonyms.&lt;p&gt;To what degree can these large language models arrive at these same conclusions, and by what process?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>naasking</author><text>&amp;gt; this sort of understanding is a result of some manner of understanding the underlying mechanisms and not a result of just having a huge dictionary of synonyms.&lt;p&gt;He developed an understanding of the underlying mechanisms because he correlated concepts between algebraic and geometric domains, ie. multimodal training data. Multimodal models are already known to be meaningfully better than unimodal ones. We&amp;#x27;ve barely scratched the surface of multimodal training.</text></comment>
<story><title>OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/technology/sam-altmans-ouster-openai-was-precipitated-by-letter-board-about-ai-breakthrough-2023-11-22/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cduzz</author><text>I was talking to my (12 year old) son about parts of math he finds boring.  He said that he thinks absolute value is absurdly easy and extremely boring.  I asked him if there was anything that might make it more interesting, he said &amp;quot;maybe complex numbers&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;So I asked him &amp;quot;what would the absolute value of i+1 be?&amp;quot; he thinks for a little bit and says &amp;quot;square root of 2&amp;quot; and I ask him &amp;quot;what about the absolute value of 2i + 2?&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;square root of 8&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I ask him &amp;quot;why?&amp;quot; and he said &amp;quot;absolute value is distance; in the complex plane the absolute value is the hypotenuse of the imaginary and real numbers.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;So -- first of all, this was a little surprising to me that he&amp;#x27;d thought about this sort of thing having mostly just watched youtube videos about math, and second, this sort of understanding is a result of some manner of understanding the underlying mechanisms and not a result of just having a huge dictionary of synonyms.&lt;p&gt;To what degree can these large language models arrive at these same conclusions, and by what process?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>white_dragon88</author><text>Your son is a goddamn genius.</text></comment>