<story><title>F-35&apos;s radar invisibility cloak in question</title><url>https://www.c4isrnet.com/intel-geoint/sensors/2019/09/30/stealthy-no-more-a-german-radar-vendor-says-it-tracked-the-f-35-jet-in-2018-from-a-pony-farm/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Someone1234</author><text>This isn&amp;#x27;t strictly just about a weakness in the F-35&amp;#x27;s radar resistance, but that the whole concept of &amp;quot;stealth&amp;quot; aircraft may be limited in the future thanks to ever increasing computation power and clever usage of existing radio waves (making effective, passive, &amp;quot;radar&amp;quot; that cannot be easily overcome). But as the article points out, this cannot yet be used for guided missiles, and is very early tech regardless.&lt;p&gt;I suspect the future won&amp;#x27;t be &amp;quot;super weapons&amp;quot; like the F-35, but instead just &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; weapons like tens of weaponized drones. Where the mission isn&amp;#x27;t to be invisible but to simply overwhelming enemy defenses (essentially the World War I strategy, but without the massive numbers of dead soldiers).&lt;p&gt;PS - The people pointing out that the F-35 had radar reflective disks added didn&amp;#x27;t seem to have understand the article (or technology). This is using entirely different methods to detect the aircraft, not radar waves, so that&amp;#x27;s irrelevant. The F-35 could be broadcasting a transponder, and it wouldn&amp;#x27;t undercut the technology discussed.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>vonmoltke</author><text>&amp;gt; The people pointing out that the F-35 had radar reflective disks added didn&amp;#x27;t seem to have understand the article (or technology). This is using entirely different methods to detect the aircraft, not radar waves, so that&amp;#x27;s irrelevant.&lt;p&gt;It is relevant, and this system is absolutely using radio signals for detection and tracking; it just doesn&amp;#x27;t transmit them.  The system described is a bi-static radar system that uses transmitters of opportunity (technical term &amp;quot;non-cooperative transmitters&amp;quot;) to generate the signal and listens for the return from those signals hitting the target.</text></comment>
<story><title>F-35&apos;s radar invisibility cloak in question</title><url>https://www.c4isrnet.com/intel-geoint/sensors/2019/09/30/stealthy-no-more-a-german-radar-vendor-says-it-tracked-the-f-35-jet-in-2018-from-a-pony-farm/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Someone1234</author><text>This isn&amp;#x27;t strictly just about a weakness in the F-35&amp;#x27;s radar resistance, but that the whole concept of &amp;quot;stealth&amp;quot; aircraft may be limited in the future thanks to ever increasing computation power and clever usage of existing radio waves (making effective, passive, &amp;quot;radar&amp;quot; that cannot be easily overcome). But as the article points out, this cannot yet be used for guided missiles, and is very early tech regardless.&lt;p&gt;I suspect the future won&amp;#x27;t be &amp;quot;super weapons&amp;quot; like the F-35, but instead just &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; weapons like tens of weaponized drones. Where the mission isn&amp;#x27;t to be invisible but to simply overwhelming enemy defenses (essentially the World War I strategy, but without the massive numbers of dead soldiers).&lt;p&gt;PS - The people pointing out that the F-35 had radar reflective disks added didn&amp;#x27;t seem to have understand the article (or technology). This is using entirely different methods to detect the aircraft, not radar waves, so that&amp;#x27;s irrelevant. The F-35 could be broadcasting a transponder, and it wouldn&amp;#x27;t undercut the technology discussed.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ranger207</author><text>&amp;gt;the whole concept of &amp;quot;stealth&amp;quot; aircraft may be limited in the future thanks to ever increasing computation power and clever usage of existing radio waves&lt;p&gt;I have to disagree. Manufacturers will continue to build stealthy planes and drones, simply because it makes it harder to detect them. Yes, you may be able to detect a stealthy plane at, say, 100km, but using the same techniques you would be able to track a non-stealthy plane at 200km. Stealth isn&amp;#x27;t an end-all be-all tool that makes vehicles completely invincible, as the Bosnian shootdown of the F-117 showed, but it does make it harder, and I don&amp;#x27;t know of any technologies that could render it completely useless.</text></comment>