<story><title>Facebook&apos;s Zuckerberg Says the Age of Privacy Is Over (2010)</title><url>https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/external/readwriteweb/2010/01/10/10readwriteweb-facebooks-zuckerberg-says-the-age-of-privac-82963.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>pacala</author><text>Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google, 2009&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Yesterday, the web was buzzing with commentary about Google CEO Eric Schmidt&amp;#x27;s dangerous, dismissive response to concerns about search engine users&amp;#x27; privacy. When asked during an interview for CNBC&amp;#x27;s recent &amp;quot;Inside the Mind of Google&amp;quot; special about whether users should be sharing information with Google as if it were a &amp;quot;trusted friend,&amp;quot; Schmidt responded, &amp;quot;If you have something that you don&amp;#x27;t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn&amp;#x27;t be doing it in the first place.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.eff.org&amp;#x2F;deeplinks&amp;#x2F;2009&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;google-ceo-eric-schmidt-dismisses-privacy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.eff.org&amp;#x2F;deeplinks&amp;#x2F;2009&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;google-ceo-eric-schmid...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>JumpCrisscross</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;If you have something that you don&amp;#x27;t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn&amp;#x27;t be doing it in the first place.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;To what degree does Apple&amp;#x27;s privacy stance come from selling hardware versus Tim Cook, as a gay man born in Mobile, Alabama in 1960 [1], instinctively understanding why people need privacy?&lt;p&gt;There were opportunities for Apple to pivot away from privacy. (They no longer just sell hardware. In the quarter ending December 30th, 2017, Apple earned 18% of their net sales from services [2].) But privacy remains a value they choose to ensure they remain incentivized to protect. That isn&amp;#x27;t the case at Facebook.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Tim_Cook&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Tim_Cook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.sec.gov&amp;#x2F;Archives&amp;#x2F;edgar&amp;#x2F;data&amp;#x2F;320193&amp;#x2F;000032019318000007&amp;#x2F;a10-qq1201812302017.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.sec.gov&amp;#x2F;Archives&amp;#x2F;edgar&amp;#x2F;data&amp;#x2F;320193&amp;#x2F;0000320193180...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;i&gt;MD&amp;amp;A&lt;/i&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Facebook&apos;s Zuckerberg Says the Age of Privacy Is Over (2010)</title><url>https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/external/readwriteweb/2010/01/10/10readwriteweb-facebooks-zuckerberg-says-the-age-of-privac-82963.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>pacala</author><text>Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google, 2009&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Yesterday, the web was buzzing with commentary about Google CEO Eric Schmidt&amp;#x27;s dangerous, dismissive response to concerns about search engine users&amp;#x27; privacy. When asked during an interview for CNBC&amp;#x27;s recent &amp;quot;Inside the Mind of Google&amp;quot; special about whether users should be sharing information with Google as if it were a &amp;quot;trusted friend,&amp;quot; Schmidt responded, &amp;quot;If you have something that you don&amp;#x27;t want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn&amp;#x27;t be doing it in the first place.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.eff.org&amp;#x2F;deeplinks&amp;#x2F;2009&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;google-ceo-eric-schmidt-dismisses-privacy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.eff.org&amp;#x2F;deeplinks&amp;#x2F;2009&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;google-ceo-eric-schmid...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>noobermin</author><text>When people buy a heart shaped container on amazon, browse cat pictures on tumblr, and watch a certain anime on crunchyroll, they probably don&amp;#x27;t mind. What is a problem is when people take all these disparate actions, aggregate them, and then create a &amp;quot;profile&amp;quot; for each person&amp;#x27;s personality is where they start to worry.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s the same as how people go outside, go to restaurants, stores, gyms in the public and don&amp;#x27;t hide their faces because there&amp;#x27;s no shame in what they&amp;#x27;re doing. If, however, you as an individual follow them throughout their day, jotting notes on what they&amp;#x27;re doing, when they&amp;#x27;re doing it, and with who, you&amp;#x27;re considered a creep even though you&amp;#x27;ve observed things in the open.</text></comment>