<story><title>MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch</title><url>https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-14-and-16/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>diebeforei485</author><text>Agree- I have been largely disappointed by USB-C. It&amp;#x27;s been okay as a smaller USB-A replacement for flash drives and mice, but in general the lesson of USB-C is: just because it fits, doesn&amp;#x27;t mean it works.&lt;p&gt;My personal favorite annoyance is how chargers and cables are advertised with the wattage they support, but it&amp;#x27;s really the voltage and current that matters.&lt;p&gt;If you have a device that wants 20W as 9V&amp;#x2F;2.22A , your 30W charger may not support that specific combination and will charge much slower than a 20W charger that does.&lt;p&gt;Edit: Yes, I went to middle school and know that power is voltage times current. My point is: having an equal or higher wattage USB-C charger is not sufficient.</text></item><item><author>ksec</author><text>HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C.&lt;p&gt;Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015.&lt;p&gt;In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference.&lt;p&gt;MacBook Pro 13&amp;quot; 2015  - 1.8 cm&lt;p&gt;MacBook Pro 13&amp;quot; 2016  - 1.49 &amp;#x2F; 1.55 cm&lt;p&gt;MacBook Pro 14&amp;quot; &amp;#x2F; 16&amp;quot;  2021  - 1.55 &amp;#x2F; 1.66cm&lt;p&gt;So basically even the new 16&amp;quot; is still thinner than the MacBook 2015 era. Which I think vast majority of people were happy with.&lt;p&gt;Edit: Both 14&amp;quot; and 16&amp;quot; have 254 PPI, up from ~220. Apple tends to stick with same PPI for a very long time. So this is interesting. 3456-by-2234 or 3024-by-1964 is 14:9 Ratio. So somewhere in between the old 16:10 and 3:2 which is current trend of Lenovo and Surface Laptop.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ksec</author><text>Its time to tell the somewhat unpopular story again. ( Because USB-C Supporters hate it )&lt;p&gt;Trying to help a lawyer out and trying to explain why the $5.00 USB-C cable he&amp;#x27;d bought from Amazon wasn&amp;#x27;t delivering 4K video to his expensive monitor AND powering his laptop too.&lt;p&gt;Me: OK: so its a USB-C cable, but its not a high data rate USB-C cable.&lt;p&gt;Him: But, its a USB-C Cable.&lt;p&gt;Me: but, no, not all USB-C cables are high speed cables. And some of them can&amp;#x27;t do high speed and power delivery&lt;p&gt;Him: but... its a USB-C cable: it plugs into the port.&lt;p&gt;Me: Um... just because it plugs in, doesn&amp;#x27;t mean its going to work. You can have USB-C cables that are actually slower than the old USB ports.&lt;p&gt;Him: but.... shouldn&amp;#x27;t it just work?&lt;p&gt;And so on. For... 15? more minutes? maybe 30? I finally got him to buy a &amp;quot;proper&amp;quot; belkin USB-C cable . Which was bought from a company that should be anonymous, but lets just say that a &amp;quot;refurbished&amp;quot; cable was shipped, which, surprise, surprise ,didn&amp;#x27;t work, for ANYTHING.
This basically sums up everything that is wrong with Tech thinking vs User Thinking.</text></comment>
<story><title>MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch</title><url>https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-14-and-16/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>diebeforei485</author><text>Agree- I have been largely disappointed by USB-C. It&amp;#x27;s been okay as a smaller USB-A replacement for flash drives and mice, but in general the lesson of USB-C is: just because it fits, doesn&amp;#x27;t mean it works.&lt;p&gt;My personal favorite annoyance is how chargers and cables are advertised with the wattage they support, but it&amp;#x27;s really the voltage and current that matters.&lt;p&gt;If you have a device that wants 20W as 9V&amp;#x2F;2.22A , your 30W charger may not support that specific combination and will charge much slower than a 20W charger that does.&lt;p&gt;Edit: Yes, I went to middle school and know that power is voltage times current. My point is: having an equal or higher wattage USB-C charger is not sufficient.</text></item><item><author>ksec</author><text>HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C.&lt;p&gt;Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015.&lt;p&gt;In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference.&lt;p&gt;MacBook Pro 13&amp;quot; 2015  - 1.8 cm&lt;p&gt;MacBook Pro 13&amp;quot; 2016  - 1.49 &amp;#x2F; 1.55 cm&lt;p&gt;MacBook Pro 14&amp;quot; &amp;#x2F; 16&amp;quot;  2021  - 1.55 &amp;#x2F; 1.66cm&lt;p&gt;So basically even the new 16&amp;quot; is still thinner than the MacBook 2015 era. Which I think vast majority of people were happy with.&lt;p&gt;Edit: Both 14&amp;quot; and 16&amp;quot; have 254 PPI, up from ~220. Apple tends to stick with same PPI for a very long time. So this is interesting. 3456-by-2234 or 3024-by-1964 is 14:9 Ratio. So somewhere in between the old 16:10 and 3:2 which is current trend of Lenovo and Surface Laptop.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dekhn</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve been pretty impressed with USB-C.  I&amp;#x27;ve managed to add a GPU to a NUC and train&amp;#x2F;infer with tensorflow, no problems.  Plug a computer into a monitor and power and keyboard&amp;#x2F;mouse at the same time, while also using same cable to pass through charge two lightning devices...&lt;p&gt;I find it much harder to break a USB-C port then a micro USB port on all phones I&amp;#x27;ve owned.</text></comment>