<story><title>Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S</title><url>http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/10/apple-unveils-the-iphone-5s/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cheald</author><text>Probably when the NSA stops illegally spying on the citizens it is supposed to serve.</text></item><item><author>dev_jim</author><text>Urgh. When do we get to the point where I can read HN without a snarky NSA comment being voted to the top?</text></item><item><author>pilif</author><text>Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I&amp;#x27;m also not so sure whether a fingerprint can&amp;#x27;t still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example).&lt;p&gt;Personally, I think I&amp;#x27;d rather stay with my passcode.&lt;p&gt;Did you btw know that you can turn off &amp;quot;simple passcode&amp;quot; and then use a purely numeric longer passcode? In that case the iPhone will still show the big easy-to-hit numeric keyboard allowing you to type in the arbitrary length numeric code.&lt;p&gt;Yes. It&amp;#x27;s not as safe as a long alphanumeric password, but this gets annoying SO quickly, I&amp;#x27;d rather type in my 8 digits.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>stanleydrew</author><text>More snark. This isn&amp;#x27;t helpful.&lt;p&gt;For those who want to believe it, I doubt there is any amount of information that could ever be released to convince them that the NSA &lt;i&gt;isn&amp;#x27;t&lt;/i&gt; spying on people anymore.</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S</title><url>http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/10/apple-unveils-the-iphone-5s/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cheald</author><text>Probably when the NSA stops illegally spying on the citizens it is supposed to serve.</text></item><item><author>dev_jim</author><text>Urgh. When do we get to the point where I can read HN without a snarky NSA comment being voted to the top?</text></item><item><author>pilif</author><text>Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I&amp;#x27;m also not so sure whether a fingerprint can&amp;#x27;t still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example).&lt;p&gt;Personally, I think I&amp;#x27;d rather stay with my passcode.&lt;p&gt;Did you btw know that you can turn off &amp;quot;simple passcode&amp;quot; and then use a purely numeric longer passcode? In that case the iPhone will still show the big easy-to-hit numeric keyboard allowing you to type in the arbitrary length numeric code.&lt;p&gt;Yes. It&amp;#x27;s not as safe as a long alphanumeric password, but this gets annoying SO quickly, I&amp;#x27;d rather type in my 8 digits.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jad</author><text>&amp;gt; Probably when the NSA stops illegally spying...&lt;p&gt;Who said what they&amp;#x27;re doing is illegal? The whole problem is that the entire surveillance regime is completely secret and completely legal.</text></comment>