<story><title>Tesla stopped reporting its Autopilot safety numbers online. Why?</title><url>https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-12-27/tesla-stopped-reporting-autopilot-safety-statistics-online</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gzer0</author><text>Curious to know where you see this false advertising?&lt;p&gt;When you go to purchase Autopilot on the Tesla website [0], it says in the first sentence: &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;The currently enabled features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;On Ford&amp;#x27;s website regarding their Blue Cruise[1]: &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Blue Cruise allows you to operate your vehicle hands-free while being monitored by a driver-facing camera to make sure you&amp;#x27;re keeping your eyes on the road.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;If anything, Ford seems to be more bold and brazen with their approach here.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tesla.com&amp;#x2F;model3&amp;#x2F;design#overview&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tesla.com&amp;#x2F;model3&amp;#x2F;design#overview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ford.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;driver-assist-technology&amp;#x2F;#bluecruise&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ford.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;driver-assist-technology&amp;#x2F;#bl...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>nixass</author><text>Probably they do because of false advertising</text></item><item><author>onos</author><text>I wonder if Tesla drivers simply use autopilot more than ford’s do.</text></item><item><author>pcurve</author><text>In a nutshell, the article says adjusting for sales volume, Tesla auto pilot crashes numbers are far higher than the ones from Ford.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;...Tesla ought to have a NHTSA-reported crash total of 70 since last summer to be comparable with Ford’s rate. Instead, Tesla reported 516 crashes.&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>delecti</author><text>The fact that on Tesla&amp;#x27;s site the feature is called &amp;quot;Full Self-Driving Capability&amp;quot; while Ford&amp;#x27;s is called &amp;quot;BlueCruise&amp;quot; seems to be a rather relevant difference. &amp;quot;Full Self-Driving&amp;quot; sure &lt;i&gt;feels&lt;/i&gt; like false advertising to me, even if it doesn&amp;#x27;t legally qualify as such.</text></comment>
<story><title>Tesla stopped reporting its Autopilot safety numbers online. Why?</title><url>https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-12-27/tesla-stopped-reporting-autopilot-safety-statistics-online</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gzer0</author><text>Curious to know where you see this false advertising?&lt;p&gt;When you go to purchase Autopilot on the Tesla website [0], it says in the first sentence: &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;The currently enabled features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;On Ford&amp;#x27;s website regarding their Blue Cruise[1]: &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Blue Cruise allows you to operate your vehicle hands-free while being monitored by a driver-facing camera to make sure you&amp;#x27;re keeping your eyes on the road.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;If anything, Ford seems to be more bold and brazen with their approach here.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tesla.com&amp;#x2F;model3&amp;#x2F;design#overview&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tesla.com&amp;#x2F;model3&amp;#x2F;design#overview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ford.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;driver-assist-technology&amp;#x2F;#bluecruise&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ford.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;driver-assist-technology&amp;#x2F;#bl...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>nixass</author><text>Probably they do because of false advertising</text></item><item><author>onos</author><text>I wonder if Tesla drivers simply use autopilot more than ford’s do.</text></item><item><author>pcurve</author><text>In a nutshell, the article says adjusting for sales volume, Tesla auto pilot crashes numbers are far higher than the ones from Ford.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;...Tesla ought to have a NHTSA-reported crash total of 70 since last summer to be comparable with Ford’s rate. Instead, Tesla reported 516 crashes.&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>maximinus_thrax</author><text>Mixed signals&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tesla.com&amp;#x2F;autopilot&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tesla.com&amp;#x2F;autopilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Tesla cars come standard with advanced hardware capable of providing Autopilot features, and full self-driving capabilities—through software updates designed to improve functionality over time.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Current Autopilot features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;The system is designed to be able to conduct short and long distance trips with no action required by the person in the driver’s seat.&amp;quot;</text></comment>