<story><title>Release of methane gas from the seafloor in the Southern Hemisphere</title><url>https://lnu.se/en/meet-linnaeus-university/current/news/2020/massive-release-of-methane-gas-from-the-seafloor-linked-to-global-warming-discovered-for-the-first-time-in-the-southern-hemisphere/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bamboozled</author><text>Food production is of course part of it, but it&amp;#x27;s harder to solve because people need to eat.&lt;p&gt;We don&amp;#x27;t need to burn coal or oil anymore en masse.</text></item><item><author>vertis</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s nowhere near that simple though. CO2 is one big contributor, but not the only one. Methane is also a big contributor[1], and things like beef production are a big part of increased Methane emissions (by no means the only source).&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.nationalgeographic.com&amp;#x2F;environment&amp;#x2F;global-warming&amp;#x2F;methane&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.nationalgeographic.com&amp;#x2F;environment&amp;#x2F;global-warmin...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>bamboozled</author><text>What about just simplifying it and saying that, the majority of the reason for climate change is burning coal and oil ?&lt;p&gt;I don’t think we need to regress back to living in mud clay huts and blocking Amazon orders.&lt;p&gt;We &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; need to stop burning coal for generating power 100 years ago.</text></item><item><author>baron_harkonnen</author><text>&amp;gt; Like there&amp;#x27;s was a dip in CO2 emiisions during covid, but only like a 15%. Who&amp;#x27;s producing the rest?&lt;p&gt;While I agree very much about the absurd logic of trying to put the solutions to climate change on individuals, I am honestly perplexed that you don&amp;#x27;t seem to understand how all of your daily consumption contributes to climate change.&lt;p&gt;CO2 emissions doesn&amp;#x27;t just come from driving your car. If you ordered anything delivered from amazon that created CO2, if you live in a developing city your environment creates CO2, if you consume food that is grown non-locally or that uses fertilizer that also create CO2.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s not just a &amp;quot;small number of companies&amp;quot; it&amp;#x27;s every company and every part of our modern life. Look around you and I can assure you that most of the things you see where shipped around the globe using ships powered by bunker fuel, they were made with materials gathered using a non-trivial amount of non-renewable energy.&lt;p&gt;Again, I agree that we can&amp;#x27;t expect that individually we&amp;#x27;ll all radically alter our lives and live like it&amp;#x27;s 1800, but it is essential to realize who much of your current way of live contributes to the enormous production of CO2.&lt;p&gt;The fact that things slowed down and we decreased emissions by some notable percentage but we suffered incredible economic consequences for this show just how unsustainable our entire way of life is.</text></item><item><author>mattmanser</author><text>Yikes like the clathrate gun that turned out to be nonsense, or yikes as in it&amp;#x27;s actually a threat? Not saying climate change isn&amp;#x27;t something to be worried about, but this article doesn&amp;#x27;t say if it&amp;#x27;ll release like 10% of yearly methane, or like 0.00001% and Ketzer&amp;#x27;s just trying to pump his publication count.&lt;p&gt;What I would really love to see is an indepedant website ranking all the threats. How bad is global shipping vs leaving your lights on? Or the clathrate gun vs burning oil fields? Or recycling your plastic vs throwing your plastic shit in the river in 3rd world countries?&lt;p&gt;Like there&amp;#x27;s was a dip in CO2 emiisions during covid, but only like a 15%. Who&amp;#x27;s producing the rest? &amp;#x27;cause it&amp;#x27;s now obviously not most of the population of the world who get lectured about recycling, it&amp;#x27;s obviously a small number of companies, which I think most of us would suspect probably has a high intersection with the small number of people hoarding wealth in the world.</text></item><item><author>chrisweekly</author><text>Yikes.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Gas hydrate is an ice-like substance formed by water and methane at depths of several hundred metres at the bottom of our oceans at high pressure and low temperatures. Methane is a potent greenhouse gas, roughly 25 times more potent than carbon dioxide, and it is estimated that methane frozen in these sediments constitute the largest organic carbon reservoir on Earth. The fact that methane gas has now started leaking out through gas hydrate dissociation is not good news for the climate.&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>austhrow743</author><text>People needing to eat would be the equivalent of people needing energy in this scenario.&lt;p&gt;People need to eat specifically meat like they need to burn specifically coal and oil.</text></comment>
<story><title>Release of methane gas from the seafloor in the Southern Hemisphere</title><url>https://lnu.se/en/meet-linnaeus-university/current/news/2020/massive-release-of-methane-gas-from-the-seafloor-linked-to-global-warming-discovered-for-the-first-time-in-the-southern-hemisphere/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bamboozled</author><text>Food production is of course part of it, but it&amp;#x27;s harder to solve because people need to eat.&lt;p&gt;We don&amp;#x27;t need to burn coal or oil anymore en masse.</text></item><item><author>vertis</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s nowhere near that simple though. CO2 is one big contributor, but not the only one. Methane is also a big contributor[1], and things like beef production are a big part of increased Methane emissions (by no means the only source).&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.nationalgeographic.com&amp;#x2F;environment&amp;#x2F;global-warming&amp;#x2F;methane&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.nationalgeographic.com&amp;#x2F;environment&amp;#x2F;global-warmin...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>bamboozled</author><text>What about just simplifying it and saying that, the majority of the reason for climate change is burning coal and oil ?&lt;p&gt;I don’t think we need to regress back to living in mud clay huts and blocking Amazon orders.&lt;p&gt;We &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; need to stop burning coal for generating power 100 years ago.</text></item><item><author>baron_harkonnen</author><text>&amp;gt; Like there&amp;#x27;s was a dip in CO2 emiisions during covid, but only like a 15%. Who&amp;#x27;s producing the rest?&lt;p&gt;While I agree very much about the absurd logic of trying to put the solutions to climate change on individuals, I am honestly perplexed that you don&amp;#x27;t seem to understand how all of your daily consumption contributes to climate change.&lt;p&gt;CO2 emissions doesn&amp;#x27;t just come from driving your car. If you ordered anything delivered from amazon that created CO2, if you live in a developing city your environment creates CO2, if you consume food that is grown non-locally or that uses fertilizer that also create CO2.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s not just a &amp;quot;small number of companies&amp;quot; it&amp;#x27;s every company and every part of our modern life. Look around you and I can assure you that most of the things you see where shipped around the globe using ships powered by bunker fuel, they were made with materials gathered using a non-trivial amount of non-renewable energy.&lt;p&gt;Again, I agree that we can&amp;#x27;t expect that individually we&amp;#x27;ll all radically alter our lives and live like it&amp;#x27;s 1800, but it is essential to realize who much of your current way of live contributes to the enormous production of CO2.&lt;p&gt;The fact that things slowed down and we decreased emissions by some notable percentage but we suffered incredible economic consequences for this show just how unsustainable our entire way of life is.</text></item><item><author>mattmanser</author><text>Yikes like the clathrate gun that turned out to be nonsense, or yikes as in it&amp;#x27;s actually a threat? Not saying climate change isn&amp;#x27;t something to be worried about, but this article doesn&amp;#x27;t say if it&amp;#x27;ll release like 10% of yearly methane, or like 0.00001% and Ketzer&amp;#x27;s just trying to pump his publication count.&lt;p&gt;What I would really love to see is an indepedant website ranking all the threats. How bad is global shipping vs leaving your lights on? Or the clathrate gun vs burning oil fields? Or recycling your plastic vs throwing your plastic shit in the river in 3rd world countries?&lt;p&gt;Like there&amp;#x27;s was a dip in CO2 emiisions during covid, but only like a 15%. Who&amp;#x27;s producing the rest? &amp;#x27;cause it&amp;#x27;s now obviously not most of the population of the world who get lectured about recycling, it&amp;#x27;s obviously a small number of companies, which I think most of us would suspect probably has a high intersection with the small number of people hoarding wealth in the world.</text></item><item><author>chrisweekly</author><text>Yikes.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Gas hydrate is an ice-like substance formed by water and methane at depths of several hundred metres at the bottom of our oceans at high pressure and low temperatures. Methane is a potent greenhouse gas, roughly 25 times more potent than carbon dioxide, and it is estimated that methane frozen in these sediments constitute the largest organic carbon reservoir on Earth. The fact that methane gas has now started leaking out through gas hydrate dissociation is not good news for the climate.&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>devdas</author><text>Lowering dairy and beef consumption would go a long way to reduce that damage.</text></comment>