<story><title>Police, prosecutors used junk science to decide 911 callers were liars</title><url>https://www.propublica.org/article/911-call-analysis-fbi-police-courts</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>loteck</author><text>Folks don&amp;#x27;t need to accept all the baggage that comes with the &amp;quot;defund&amp;quot; label. You can want rigorous oversight and oppose wasteful spending of public dollars by just being a normal person who always wants those things.</text></item><item><author>polygamous_bat</author><text>A big criticism that I have heard from &amp;quot;defund the police&amp;quot; folks is that a lot of police departments across the country have more money than sense and accountability. If you are inclined to believe this statement, it is inevitable that they are, in best case, swindled by hucksters selling snake oil, and in worst case, are dabbling in corruption to enrich themselves. Stories like these only add more evidence to that claim.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>kasey_junk</author><text>The “defund” label is perhaps the worst marketing of any social movement ever. Nearly everyone would agree with the main nominal ideas - more oversight, less violent responses, more accountability and moving resources away from militarized police and towards social work, specifically psychological interventions.&lt;p&gt;It’s so bad the tinfoil hat me often thinks it’s an op by the military industrial complex to ensure one of their biggest cash cows never faces budget issues.</text></comment>
<story><title>Police, prosecutors used junk science to decide 911 callers were liars</title><url>https://www.propublica.org/article/911-call-analysis-fbi-police-courts</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>loteck</author><text>Folks don&amp;#x27;t need to accept all the baggage that comes with the &amp;quot;defund&amp;quot; label. You can want rigorous oversight and oppose wasteful spending of public dollars by just being a normal person who always wants those things.</text></item><item><author>polygamous_bat</author><text>A big criticism that I have heard from &amp;quot;defund the police&amp;quot; folks is that a lot of police departments across the country have more money than sense and accountability. If you are inclined to believe this statement, it is inevitable that they are, in best case, swindled by hucksters selling snake oil, and in worst case, are dabbling in corruption to enrich themselves. Stories like these only add more evidence to that claim.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bnralt</author><text>Indeed. Just like you can be against waste in public schools, but if you start marching around with signs that say &amp;quot;Defund Schools&amp;quot; you shouldn&amp;#x27;t be surprised if people take your sign at face value and don&amp;#x27;t want to associate with you.</text></comment>