<story><title>School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents</title><url>https://www.media.uzh.ch/en/Press-Releases/2022/Adolescent-Sleep.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>shafyy</author><text>In the US, maybe. In Europe, it&amp;#x27;s very unusual for a kid older than ~9 years to be driven to school.</text></item><item><author>etchalon</author><text>There are a lot of high schoolers who do not live within walking distance of their school, or who aren&amp;#x27;t safe walking to their school. Buses are unreliable, easy to miss, and public transportation can be expensive.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a whole thing.</text></item><item><author>throwawayboise</author><text>High schoolers do not need daycare; they also do not need parents to dress them and get them to school. They should be able to manage those things on their own, and take care of themselves for a few unsupervised hours a day.</text></item><item><author>silisili</author><text>And led to a huge retardation (in the literal sense) of learning.  My kid was way more active and alert, but the schools weren&amp;#x27;t prepared for this and they basically just read books together; she&amp;#x27;s way behind in math still.&lt;p&gt;That all said, school hours were set mostly because public schools double as a daycare.  I don&amp;#x27;t know many people who drive in at 7am anymore, it&amp;#x27;s definitely time to reset expectations here.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>onion2k</author><text>&lt;i&gt;In Europe, it&amp;#x27;s very unusual for a kid older than ~9 years to be driven to school.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here in the UK there are parking restrictions around practically every school to stop parents clogging up the roads to drop off or collect their kids. I&amp;#x27;d suggest that&amp;#x27;s evidence that a lot of children still get taken to school by car.</text></comment>
<story><title>School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents</title><url>https://www.media.uzh.ch/en/Press-Releases/2022/Adolescent-Sleep.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>shafyy</author><text>In the US, maybe. In Europe, it&amp;#x27;s very unusual for a kid older than ~9 years to be driven to school.</text></item><item><author>etchalon</author><text>There are a lot of high schoolers who do not live within walking distance of their school, or who aren&amp;#x27;t safe walking to their school. Buses are unreliable, easy to miss, and public transportation can be expensive.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a whole thing.</text></item><item><author>throwawayboise</author><text>High schoolers do not need daycare; they also do not need parents to dress them and get them to school. They should be able to manage those things on their own, and take care of themselves for a few unsupervised hours a day.</text></item><item><author>silisili</author><text>And led to a huge retardation (in the literal sense) of learning.  My kid was way more active and alert, but the schools weren&amp;#x27;t prepared for this and they basically just read books together; she&amp;#x27;s way behind in math still.&lt;p&gt;That all said, school hours were set mostly because public schools double as a daycare.  I don&amp;#x27;t know many people who drive in at 7am anymore, it&amp;#x27;s definitely time to reset expectations here.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>sdoering</author><text>I have to anecdotally disagree. I am living near to a big high school. Every morning parents, primarily mothers, drive their high school kids into school.&lt;p&gt;One has to know that every 10 minutes the train stops at the school as it has their own stop.&lt;p&gt;Busses also stop at school.&lt;p&gt;Nonetheless the amount of kids in their teens being driven to school by parents is staggering.</text></comment>