<story><title>Oil sector is lobbying for inefficient hydrogen cars to delay electrification</title><url>https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/liebreich-oil-sector-is-lobbying-for-inefficient-hydrogen-cars-because-it-wants-to-delay-electrification-/2-1-1033226?zephr_sso_ott=XwKh7x</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gmane</author><text>Anyone who has followed hydrogen as a fuel for a while sees pretty easily that its a solution in search of a problem. It really doesn&amp;#x27;t make sense to use renewables to make hydrogen fuel to then burn: batteries are better for storage of energy in most cases (I will grant that there are edge cases where a liquid&amp;#x2F;gas fuel is a better technical solution than batteries, but I think that options like ethanol are probably better than hydrogen for those use cases). My gut is that the majority of hydrogen proponents are oil and gas lobbyists or funded by them.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>_fizz_buzz_</author><text>Hydrogen for cars is dead. However long haul flights, fertilizer, green steel, etc. very difficult to find a carbon free alternative that isn’t hydrogen.</text></comment>
<story><title>Oil sector is lobbying for inefficient hydrogen cars to delay electrification</title><url>https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/liebreich-oil-sector-is-lobbying-for-inefficient-hydrogen-cars-because-it-wants-to-delay-electrification-/2-1-1033226?zephr_sso_ott=XwKh7x</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gmane</author><text>Anyone who has followed hydrogen as a fuel for a while sees pretty easily that its a solution in search of a problem. It really doesn&amp;#x27;t make sense to use renewables to make hydrogen fuel to then burn: batteries are better for storage of energy in most cases (I will grant that there are edge cases where a liquid&amp;#x2F;gas fuel is a better technical solution than batteries, but I think that options like ethanol are probably better than hydrogen for those use cases). My gut is that the majority of hydrogen proponents are oil and gas lobbyists or funded by them.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tw04</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t blame you for being skeptical, but it isn&amp;#x27;t just the oil and gas industry.  The Japanese government went all-in on hydrogen.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;thediplomat.com&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;07&amp;#x2F;a-look-at-japans-latest-hydrogen-strategy&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;thediplomat.com&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;07&amp;#x2F;a-look-at-japans-latest-hydr...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>