<story><title>Rust: The wrong people are resigning</title><url>https://gist.github.com/fasterthanlime/42da9378768aebef662dd26dddf04849</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bluejekyll</author><text>I believe the reason they are saying it doesn’t matter, is that without a clear statement of what happened from the decision makers, people can speculate.&lt;p&gt;One of those things people will speculate on is if this was one of the reasons. The fact that it is also part of the equation means it can’t be outright ignored and so will also need to be addressed. On top of that, this is already an underrepresented group, and regardless of if it was a primary motivating factor, it does not help show that group that they are welcome and in fact harms any effort to do so.&lt;p&gt;It absolutely matters if it was or was not a factor in this decision, but without clear information about the decision making process, speculation will occur, and that in and of itself is harmful.</text></item><item><author>rustthrow</author><text>&amp;gt; The recent incident with ThePHD’s keynote downgrade was not racially motivated, thankfully, but… if that’s what it looks like from the outside, and any form of official communication is still days or weeks away, does it really make a difference?&lt;p&gt;yes! it does!&lt;p&gt;we can&amp;#x27;t keep framing everything as race, gender, or orientation related. people have to have basic filters for what the most important issue is in a situation. stop falling back to &amp;quot;easy&amp;quot; outs or making sweeping statements about the &amp;quot;deeper systemic problem&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;there are plenty of social problems which can&amp;#x27;t be solved by attaching every motive to every situation</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rustthrow</author><text>I really don&amp;#x27;t agree, reading the original poster&amp;#x27;s experience, that we should walk away thinking that it was because they&amp;#x27;re black. Nor should we by default assume that&amp;#x27;s the case. Multiple follow-ups by people in the Rust community have said that the politics and behavior here are a wider issue with leadership.&lt;p&gt;If the takeaway or speculation is that what went wrong here was only an issue because the speaker is black, it cheapens their experience. It tells other minorities that when they flag a problem, the root cause is their race&amp;#x2F;gender&amp;#x2F;orientation; that the solution is then a code of conduct refresh, maybe diversity training, &amp;quot;educating themselves&amp;quot;, etc. But that is not, fundamentally, as far as we can see, what is wrong here. We are not respecting the deep issues that the OP actually did identify by projecting other speculative possibilities.&lt;p&gt;What happened here is a problem no matter who the speaker was. Let&amp;#x27;s address that. If other evidence comes to light on the backing motivations, we can address those to, but it&amp;#x27;s not helpful to voluntarily pull other bad behavior that there is no reason to suspect here. No one can disprove a negative, but it&amp;#x27;s on all of us to not fall for that bait.</text></comment>
<story><title>Rust: The wrong people are resigning</title><url>https://gist.github.com/fasterthanlime/42da9378768aebef662dd26dddf04849</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bluejekyll</author><text>I believe the reason they are saying it doesn’t matter, is that without a clear statement of what happened from the decision makers, people can speculate.&lt;p&gt;One of those things people will speculate on is if this was one of the reasons. The fact that it is also part of the equation means it can’t be outright ignored and so will also need to be addressed. On top of that, this is already an underrepresented group, and regardless of if it was a primary motivating factor, it does not help show that group that they are welcome and in fact harms any effort to do so.&lt;p&gt;It absolutely matters if it was or was not a factor in this decision, but without clear information about the decision making process, speculation will occur, and that in and of itself is harmful.</text></item><item><author>rustthrow</author><text>&amp;gt; The recent incident with ThePHD’s keynote downgrade was not racially motivated, thankfully, but… if that’s what it looks like from the outside, and any form of official communication is still days or weeks away, does it really make a difference?&lt;p&gt;yes! it does!&lt;p&gt;we can&amp;#x27;t keep framing everything as race, gender, or orientation related. people have to have basic filters for what the most important issue is in a situation. stop falling back to &amp;quot;easy&amp;quot; outs or making sweeping statements about the &amp;quot;deeper systemic problem&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;there are plenty of social problems which can&amp;#x27;t be solved by attaching every motive to every situation</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>brickteacup</author><text>&amp;gt; without a clear statement of what happened from the decision makers, people can speculate&lt;p&gt;People can always speculate whatever they want. And let&amp;#x27;s be honest, the kind of people who like making utterly baseless claims about racism will do so regardless of any official statements or explanations. Unless there&amp;#x27;s actual evidence of racial animus it&amp;#x27;s best to just ignore these silly people.</text></comment>