<story><title>The San Franciso Fire Department makes its own wooden ladders by hand</title><url>https://gizmodo.com/inside-san-francisos-fire-department-where-ladders-are-1552279252</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>curun1r</author><text>LOL at SFFD giving any shits about costs. This is the same department that power grabbed emergency medical response away from dedicated paramedics in ambulances. Responding in full ladder trucks to take care of drunk homeless people...yeah, they do that, costing millions every year in added expenses and road repairs. But good for them for saving a few bucks on ladders, that must make a huge difference.</text></item><item><author>AdieuToLogic</author><text>The Discovery Channel&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;Dirty Jobs&amp;quot;[0] show made a segment involving the SFFD&amp;#x27;s ladder construction&amp;#x2F;maintenance crew.  In it, they explained that wooden ladders are cheaper to maintain than aluminum ones and I &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; also discount fiberglass ladders as well.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s worth a watch if one is interested in this topic.&lt;p&gt;0 - &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.discovery.com&amp;#x2F;tv-shows&amp;#x2F;dirty-jobs&amp;#x2F;about-this-show&amp;#x2F;dirty-jobs-about&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.discovery.com&amp;#x2F;tv-shows&amp;#x2F;dirty-jobs&amp;#x2F;about-this-show...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Broken_Hippo</author><text>This is part of a first responder program, occasionally saving lives. Plenty of cities across the US do this sort of thing.&lt;p&gt;If you have an emergency - especially a medical one - whoever is closest is the right person to respond, be it fire department, ambulance, or police. 3 to 10 minutes in an emergency can make a huge difference. Like it or not, a drunk homeless person is generally a health and&amp;#x2F;or safety issue. Coming in trucks that they would usually drive also means that if there happens to be a fire call while they are out helping someone with possible first aid, they can leave from the scene, keeping more people safe. For auto accidents, sometimes the fire truck is one of the better things to have at the scene for visibility purposes.&lt;p&gt;I would also like to add that many - but not all - fire departments also drive ambulances.&lt;p&gt;Does it cost money? Sure. But if it helps folks, I&amp;#x27;m for it. There are other options, but I&amp;#x27;m not convinced they will cost less money (more ambulances of different sorts, more manpower for first responders positioned in places across cities, and so on... all have their costs).&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d fully recommend actually looking into the reasons for some of this, and what other options are for similar outcomes.</text></comment>
<story><title>The San Franciso Fire Department makes its own wooden ladders by hand</title><url>https://gizmodo.com/inside-san-francisos-fire-department-where-ladders-are-1552279252</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>curun1r</author><text>LOL at SFFD giving any shits about costs. This is the same department that power grabbed emergency medical response away from dedicated paramedics in ambulances. Responding in full ladder trucks to take care of drunk homeless people...yeah, they do that, costing millions every year in added expenses and road repairs. But good for them for saving a few bucks on ladders, that must make a huge difference.</text></item><item><author>AdieuToLogic</author><text>The Discovery Channel&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;Dirty Jobs&amp;quot;[0] show made a segment involving the SFFD&amp;#x27;s ladder construction&amp;#x2F;maintenance crew.  In it, they explained that wooden ladders are cheaper to maintain than aluminum ones and I &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; also discount fiberglass ladders as well.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s worth a watch if one is interested in this topic.&lt;p&gt;0 - &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.discovery.com&amp;#x2F;tv-shows&amp;#x2F;dirty-jobs&amp;#x2F;about-this-show&amp;#x2F;dirty-jobs-about&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.discovery.com&amp;#x2F;tv-shows&amp;#x2F;dirty-jobs&amp;#x2F;about-this-show...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>exegete</author><text>Also from the article:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;There&amp;#x27;s a city-specific reason why San Francisco has stuck with wood rather than swap over to metals, and the answer lies in looking up. The high-voltage cables and wires that guide the city&amp;#x27;s (oft-maligned) public transport system Muni, and trolley cars crisscross above nearly every street, mean that ladders made of conductive elements are generally just too dangerous to use.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I think there&amp;#x27;s a lot of fire departments that went aluminum and wish they could go back to wood but it&amp;#x27;s too expensive,&amp;quot; Braun says. &amp;quot;There&amp;#x27;s only two ladders manufacturers in the states—and we&amp;#x27;re one of &amp;#x27;em. We only make our own ladders and can barely even keep up with what we have.&amp;quot;</text></comment>