<story><title>Amazon fires worker who led strike over virus</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-30/amazon-worker-who-led-strike-over-virus-says-company-fired-him</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>BoiledCabbage</author><text>Here is the key point Amazon claims he was exposed to the worker on March 11th. Over the weekened he said he is organizing a strike, so over the weekend they order him and only him into quarantine. A full 18 days after his 5 min exposure.  From my reading of it, this almost certainly looks like retaliatory action due to the strike, and a company using the excuse of quarantine to cover it up.&lt;p&gt;Key excerpts from a much clearer article. And yet again, why you never 100% believe a company&amp;#x27;s PR response when they&amp;#x27;re trying to cover themselves. They tell just enough truth, but use it to intentionally mislead.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;us-news&amp;#x2F;2020&amp;#x2F;mar&amp;#x2F;31&amp;#x2F;amazon-strike-worker-fired-organizing-walkout-chris-smallls&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;us-news&amp;#x2F;2020&amp;#x2F;mar&amp;#x2F;31&amp;#x2F;amazon-strik...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;According to the company’s previous statements, the infected co-worker in question last reported for work on 11 March. Had Smalls been exposed that day, a 14-day mandatory quarantine would have made him eligible to return as soon as 25 March.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Smalls said Amazon did not send him home until &lt;i&gt;28 March, three weeks after the exposure.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; “No one else was put on quarantine,” he said, even as the infected person worked alongside “associates for 10-plus hours a week”.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; “You put me on quarantine for coming into contact with somebody, but I was around [that person] for less than five minutes,” he told Vice.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; According to Amazon, no one else was fired. Smalls said he was considering legal action, calling it “a no-brainer”.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Reedx</author><text>We should apply rigor to both sides. Each has incentive to cherry pick and mislead.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; key point Amazon claims he was exposed to the worker on March 11th&lt;p&gt;Did they claim that? I&amp;#x27;m looking for a source on this. &amp;quot;According to the company’s previous statements, the infected co-worker in question last reported for work on 11 March&amp;quot;, but when you look at their linked source[1] it says: &amp;quot;Amazon confirmed an associate, who reported for work on 11 March, has since been diagnosed with Covid-19&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; “No one else was put on quarantine,” he said&lt;p&gt;Is this confirmed? You can&amp;#x27;t just assume this to be true. Pretty damning if so, though.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; “You put me on quarantine for coming into contact with somebody, but I was around [that person] for less than five minutes,” he told Vice.&lt;p&gt;Viral transmission has no minimum timeline and often occurs at first point of contact (e.g., handshake) or cough&amp;#x2F;sneeze at any time. Kind of irresponsible to even print that quote without correcting the argument.&lt;p&gt;It may be that Amazon retaliated, but stuff like this doesn&amp;#x27;t prove it. We need the hard facts. At this point it&amp;#x27;s unclear and sounds fishy on both sides.&lt;p&gt;1. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;2020&amp;#x2F;mar&amp;#x2F;30&amp;#x2F;amazon-workers-strike-coronavirus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;2020&amp;#x2F;mar&amp;#x2F;30&amp;#x2F;amazon-wo...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Amazon fires worker who led strike over virus</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-30/amazon-worker-who-led-strike-over-virus-says-company-fired-him</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>BoiledCabbage</author><text>Here is the key point Amazon claims he was exposed to the worker on March 11th. Over the weekened he said he is organizing a strike, so over the weekend they order him and only him into quarantine. A full 18 days after his 5 min exposure.  From my reading of it, this almost certainly looks like retaliatory action due to the strike, and a company using the excuse of quarantine to cover it up.&lt;p&gt;Key excerpts from a much clearer article. And yet again, why you never 100% believe a company&amp;#x27;s PR response when they&amp;#x27;re trying to cover themselves. They tell just enough truth, but use it to intentionally mislead.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;us-news&amp;#x2F;2020&amp;#x2F;mar&amp;#x2F;31&amp;#x2F;amazon-strike-worker-fired-organizing-walkout-chris-smallls&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theguardian.com&amp;#x2F;us-news&amp;#x2F;2020&amp;#x2F;mar&amp;#x2F;31&amp;#x2F;amazon-strik...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;According to the company’s previous statements, the infected co-worker in question last reported for work on 11 March. Had Smalls been exposed that day, a 14-day mandatory quarantine would have made him eligible to return as soon as 25 March.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Smalls said Amazon did not send him home until &lt;i&gt;28 March, three weeks after the exposure.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; “No one else was put on quarantine,” he said, even as the infected person worked alongside “associates for 10-plus hours a week”.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; “You put me on quarantine for coming into contact with somebody, but I was around [that person] for less than five minutes,” he told Vice.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; According to Amazon, no one else was fired. Smalls said he was considering legal action, calling it “a no-brainer”.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rayuela</author><text>These here are the important details about this and it looks pretty egregious on Amazon&amp;#x27;s behalf. Imagine the sort of leverage they could wield over their employees if they are able to get away with this kind of behavior?</text></comment>