<story><title>Roof blows off new Tesla Model Y</title><url>https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-model-y-roof-fell-off-family-claims-quality-control-concern-2020-10</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bennyelv</author><text>Anecdotes do not equal data.  Your personal experience with either situation says nothing about the underlying trends.</text></item><item><author>kingnothing</author><text>On the other side, I&amp;#x27;ve owned a Model 3 for a year now and have not had any quality issues at all compared to my previous Audis and BMWs.</text></item><item><author>mrkwse</author><text>According to the initial Reddit thread (anecdotal evidence I realise), while this is the most severe and highest profile incident, there have been quite a few reports of windows being improperly sealed. So as you say, not a one-off, but rather a flawed manufacturing procedure.&lt;p&gt;I went along with a family member to a Model 3 test drive recently and it was surprising just how many little defects were there, considering the price of the car. While paint finish or panel fit isn&amp;#x27;t going to ruin a car overall, the fact the big easy-to-spot things are so clearly flawed does make one pause to consider how rigorous the QA is for the parts under the surface.</text></item><item><author>throwaway0a5e</author><text>Tesla is an immature car maker.  They might have great designs but they haven&amp;#x27;t matured their processes.  They haven&amp;#x27;t spent years fine tuning their QA processes so these things slip through.  One off type stuff like this and designs that are generally less manufacturing optimized designs coming from them are not surprising.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t see why all the fanboys get their panties in a knot when people point this out.  To everyone who actually knows anything about cars or manufacturing it&amp;#x27;s kind of a nothing-burger that everyone expects will slowly go away with time.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>pbhjpbhj</author><text>I find &amp;quot;anecdotes do not equal data&amp;quot; to be unscientific.&lt;p&gt;Your doctor doesn&amp;#x27;t take your oral history for fun, it&amp;#x27;s data. Now, just like a medical doctor we should weigh anecdotal data accordingly, but it&amp;#x27;s still data.&lt;p&gt;Here for example we can tell BMW&amp;#x2F;Audi reportedly sometimes make production errors. Tesla reportedly don&amp;#x27;t always make significant (to the commenter) production errors.&lt;p&gt;Sure, that&amp;#x27;s not terribly useful. It&amp;#x27;s still data.&lt;p&gt;&amp;#x2F;bugbear</text></comment>
<story><title>Roof blows off new Tesla Model Y</title><url>https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-model-y-roof-fell-off-family-claims-quality-control-concern-2020-10</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bennyelv</author><text>Anecdotes do not equal data.  Your personal experience with either situation says nothing about the underlying trends.</text></item><item><author>kingnothing</author><text>On the other side, I&amp;#x27;ve owned a Model 3 for a year now and have not had any quality issues at all compared to my previous Audis and BMWs.</text></item><item><author>mrkwse</author><text>According to the initial Reddit thread (anecdotal evidence I realise), while this is the most severe and highest profile incident, there have been quite a few reports of windows being improperly sealed. So as you say, not a one-off, but rather a flawed manufacturing procedure.&lt;p&gt;I went along with a family member to a Model 3 test drive recently and it was surprising just how many little defects were there, considering the price of the car. While paint finish or panel fit isn&amp;#x27;t going to ruin a car overall, the fact the big easy-to-spot things are so clearly flawed does make one pause to consider how rigorous the QA is for the parts under the surface.</text></item><item><author>throwaway0a5e</author><text>Tesla is an immature car maker.  They might have great designs but they haven&amp;#x27;t matured their processes.  They haven&amp;#x27;t spent years fine tuning their QA processes so these things slip through.  One off type stuff like this and designs that are generally less manufacturing optimized designs coming from them are not surprising.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t see why all the fanboys get their panties in a knot when people point this out.  To everyone who actually knows anything about cars or manufacturing it&amp;#x27;s kind of a nothing-burger that everyone expects will slowly go away with time.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>zachallaun</author><text>He&amp;#x27;s responding to another anecdote, demonstrating that any anecdote likely has a counter-anecdote. You should read the context of a thread before replying snarkily.</text></comment>