<story><title>MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros</title><url>https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/07/apple-updates-macbook-pro-with-faster-performance-and-new-features-for-pros/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bunderbunder</author><text>&amp;gt; The niche developer&amp;#x2F;macrumors posters will never be happy regardless of what Apple does.&lt;p&gt;Haven&amp;#x27;t done a survey, but quite a few folks I know who work at Mac shops report that their employers have been steering clear of the new MacBooks and just trying to keep the older models they already have alive, while also looking seriously into the feasibility of switching to PCs running Linux if they don&amp;#x27;t get their act together.&lt;p&gt;Making the keyboard reliable would help, but that touchbar is also a legitimate ergonomic concern for anyone who uses software that requires you to be banging on F-keys all day.</text></item><item><author>r0fl</author><text>They didn&amp;#x27;t do that because it is not what most people want. Apple has to make changes that will sell more laptops to the masses to maximize shareholder value.&lt;p&gt;The niche developer&amp;#x2F;macrumors posters will never be happy regardless of what Apple does. Better to focus on the 90% of customers who buy products and make up 10% of the complaints then to focus on the 10% of customers who make up 90% of the complaints.</text></item><item><author>no1youknowz</author><text>&amp;gt; The new keyboard has the same dimensions and look as its two predecessors, but the keys feel just a little bit different. They&amp;#x27;re quieter, for one thing. They have a softer, less click-y feel that is a little closer to the pre-2016 models&amp;#x27; chiclet keys. We found the new keyboard to be a little nicer to type on, but it&amp;#x27;s not a radical difference. It&amp;#x27;s unlikely to convert the detractors, but it&amp;#x27;s a welcome iteration for those who liked or didn&amp;#x27;t mind the previous butterfly keyboards.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m going to wait a year, maybe 18 months for feedback before I consider upgrading.  Why they couldn&amp;#x27;t grab a 2012-2015 model and upgrade the guts?  No touchbar, smaller touchpad than the newer macbooks, but updated specs?  Call it Macbook Developer...  We build the software for the &amp;quot;Pros&amp;quot; after all.&lt;p&gt;I just don&amp;#x27;t get it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dvtrn</author><text>&amp;gt;while also looking seriously into the feasibility of switching to PCs running Linux if they don&amp;#x27;t get their act together.&lt;p&gt;This is ultimately what I ended up having to do; not really by choice. My 2015 MBP was stolen, considered looking for a refurb model but found myself test driving an HP Spectre x360-a minute with the keyboard, another few minutes Googling linux driver support on my phone and some other specs. I was walking out the door with the new purchase 15 minutes later.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s been a couple of days now, I still haven&amp;#x27;t gotten around to throwing *nix at it, but for a majority of purposes WSL is getting me by pretty nicely enough. A few days of getting a fresh Windows installation and ridding myself of all that retail bloatware, I&amp;#x27;m actually not having a bad time with Windows 10 given it&amp;#x27;s the first time I&amp;#x27;ve dailied a windows machine since XPSP1.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s how far I&amp;#x27;m going to avoid the new mbp because key input means that much to me-given how much time I spend in text fields, but this is a really enjoyable machine so far. After 3 years though my eyes definitely got used to the retina display, and this screen just can&amp;#x27;t match the color variation or the deep darks-then again it also may be the high gloss touch screen.</text></comment>
<story><title>MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros</title><url>https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018/07/apple-updates-macbook-pro-with-faster-performance-and-new-features-for-pros/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bunderbunder</author><text>&amp;gt; The niche developer&amp;#x2F;macrumors posters will never be happy regardless of what Apple does.&lt;p&gt;Haven&amp;#x27;t done a survey, but quite a few folks I know who work at Mac shops report that their employers have been steering clear of the new MacBooks and just trying to keep the older models they already have alive, while also looking seriously into the feasibility of switching to PCs running Linux if they don&amp;#x27;t get their act together.&lt;p&gt;Making the keyboard reliable would help, but that touchbar is also a legitimate ergonomic concern for anyone who uses software that requires you to be banging on F-keys all day.</text></item><item><author>r0fl</author><text>They didn&amp;#x27;t do that because it is not what most people want. Apple has to make changes that will sell more laptops to the masses to maximize shareholder value.&lt;p&gt;The niche developer&amp;#x2F;macrumors posters will never be happy regardless of what Apple does. Better to focus on the 90% of customers who buy products and make up 10% of the complaints then to focus on the 10% of customers who make up 90% of the complaints.</text></item><item><author>no1youknowz</author><text>&amp;gt; The new keyboard has the same dimensions and look as its two predecessors, but the keys feel just a little bit different. They&amp;#x27;re quieter, for one thing. They have a softer, less click-y feel that is a little closer to the pre-2016 models&amp;#x27; chiclet keys. We found the new keyboard to be a little nicer to type on, but it&amp;#x27;s not a radical difference. It&amp;#x27;s unlikely to convert the detractors, but it&amp;#x27;s a welcome iteration for those who liked or didn&amp;#x27;t mind the previous butterfly keyboards.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m going to wait a year, maybe 18 months for feedback before I consider upgrading.  Why they couldn&amp;#x27;t grab a 2012-2015 model and upgrade the guts?  No touchbar, smaller touchpad than the newer macbooks, but updated specs?  Call it Macbook Developer...  We build the software for the &amp;quot;Pros&amp;quot; after all.&lt;p&gt;I just don&amp;#x27;t get it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bigpeopleareold</author><text>Maybe 2019 will be the year of the Linux desktop? :)</text></comment>