<story><title>Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism</title><url>https://blogs.biomedcentral.com/bmcseriesblog/2017/07/21/sugar-sweetened-drinks-and-your-metabolism/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>meesterdude</author><text>i feel like a train isn&amp;#x27;t going to get anywhere on a tablespoon. That&amp;#x27;s enough for a few engine strokes perhaps, but that&amp;#x27;s hardly 30 times better than a mile by a human, no?</text></item><item><author>cma</author><text>Trains do about 30 times better on a tablespoon of diesel, and that&amp;#x27;s only including the weight of the freight and not the train itself.</text></item><item><author>rebuilder</author><text>Moving the mass of a human body over a mile on one tablespoon of fuel is highly efficient!&lt;p&gt;Edit: tablespoon, not tea-</text></item><item><author>bitexploder</author><text>Assuming you meant inefficient. It is exceedingly difficult for people to make lifestyle change. Some shockingly small percentage of people lose 40 lbs and keep it off.&lt;p&gt;I have an anecdotal idea that, basically, folks who are fit enough to exercise off 1000-1500 calories every week and do so are the ones that never have to lose the weight in many cases. Finally, although inefficient in the thermodynamic sense, I think part of why this is true is because most people gain weight over a course of years. That  extra soda or beer every day. When you have a simple balancing lever like an extra mile or two of vigorous walking or something else it can all balance. When you are sedentary in the same situation, you slowly get diabetes.&lt;p&gt;Also peanut butter is dense, but a good way to illustrate the problem to someone a good way is to also ask someone if they are willing to walk for 30 minutes for one soda.</text></item><item><author>astrange</author><text>Exercise is a bad way to increase calories out, because it&amp;#x27;s just too efficient. The conversion is something like 1 mile run = 1 tbsp peanut butter.</text></item><item><author>beagle3</author><text>Note that (at least the summary indicates) this experiment refutes &amp;quot;calories in calories out&amp;quot; theory - food composition affects thermogenesis. (I am not talking about the tautological and useless thermodynamic sense in which it definitely is true; I am talking about the &amp;quot;measure your intake and exercise&amp;quot; crowd)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>awodol</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not sure on the numbers but I know a human couldn&amp;#x27;t get freight moving even with a whole jar of peanut butter.</text></comment>
<story><title>Sugar-sweetened drinks with protein rich meal affect metabolism</title><url>https://blogs.biomedcentral.com/bmcseriesblog/2017/07/21/sugar-sweetened-drinks-and-your-metabolism/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>meesterdude</author><text>i feel like a train isn&amp;#x27;t going to get anywhere on a tablespoon. That&amp;#x27;s enough for a few engine strokes perhaps, but that&amp;#x27;s hardly 30 times better than a mile by a human, no?</text></item><item><author>cma</author><text>Trains do about 30 times better on a tablespoon of diesel, and that&amp;#x27;s only including the weight of the freight and not the train itself.</text></item><item><author>rebuilder</author><text>Moving the mass of a human body over a mile on one tablespoon of fuel is highly efficient!&lt;p&gt;Edit: tablespoon, not tea-</text></item><item><author>bitexploder</author><text>Assuming you meant inefficient. It is exceedingly difficult for people to make lifestyle change. Some shockingly small percentage of people lose 40 lbs and keep it off.&lt;p&gt;I have an anecdotal idea that, basically, folks who are fit enough to exercise off 1000-1500 calories every week and do so are the ones that never have to lose the weight in many cases. Finally, although inefficient in the thermodynamic sense, I think part of why this is true is because most people gain weight over a course of years. That  extra soda or beer every day. When you have a simple balancing lever like an extra mile or two of vigorous walking or something else it can all balance. When you are sedentary in the same situation, you slowly get diabetes.&lt;p&gt;Also peanut butter is dense, but a good way to illustrate the problem to someone a good way is to also ask someone if they are willing to walk for 30 minutes for one soda.</text></item><item><author>astrange</author><text>Exercise is a bad way to increase calories out, because it&amp;#x27;s just too efficient. The conversion is something like 1 mile run = 1 tbsp peanut butter.</text></item><item><author>beagle3</author><text>Note that (at least the summary indicates) this experiment refutes &amp;quot;calories in calories out&amp;quot; theory - food composition affects thermogenesis. (I am not talking about the tautological and useless thermodynamic sense in which it definitely is true; I am talking about the &amp;quot;measure your intake and exercise&amp;quot; crowd)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>to3m</author><text>My car will probably go (at its best) about 300m on a tablespoon of fuel. About a fifth of a mile. But it weighs about 20 times as much as I do, so I think that&amp;#x27;s pretty good going.&lt;p&gt;With a rolling start and flat ground it will pass this test at 30mph, and probably higher too. That&amp;#x27;s quite a lot faster than I can run, too...</text></comment>