<story><title>Zen, a Arc-like open-source browser based on the Firefox engine</title><url>https://www.zen-browser.app/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gxonatano</author><text>The problems these browsers are trying to solve aren&amp;#x27;t web browser problems, they&amp;#x27;re window manager problems. Your web browser shouldn&amp;#x27;t try to be a window manager.&lt;p&gt;- If you want to have two web pages side-by-side, you don&amp;#x27;t need a web browser that can handle split panes. Just have each web page in its own window and use your window manager to put them side-by-side. Tiling window managers will do this automatically.&lt;p&gt;- If you want to have several web pages open but not visible, so that you can switch between them (i.e., tabs), just use your window manager&amp;#x27;s tabs, stacks, or workspaces.&lt;p&gt;- If you have want to have 100 tabs open, you should be using bookmarks or history instead of tabs.&lt;p&gt;- If you want to have different workspaces, profiles, or so on, use your window manager&amp;#x27;s workspaces. You can even name workspaces according to projects or tasks, and assign windows to them automatically.&lt;p&gt;Any modern window manager will do, but ones with automatic tiling are the best. Sway, i3, Monad, Hyprland, Awesome, and Newm are a few.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ben2talk</author><text>Personally I agree with split panes in browsers - but not that it&amp;#x27;s better to use desktop workspaces than have workspaces to contain browser tabs.&lt;p&gt;I think a &amp;#x27;mail&amp;#x27; workspace is useful - especially if those tabs aren&amp;#x27;t running when you switch workspaces... haven&amp;#x27;t tried it yet, how&amp;#x27;s it much different to a &amp;#x27;mail&amp;#x27; folder with bookmarks inside).&lt;p&gt;I can&amp;#x27;t understand people who want 100 tabs open. Neer happened to me, I think going on over 20 or 30 is getting crazy already and time to sort things out.</text></comment>
<story><title>Zen, a Arc-like open-source browser based on the Firefox engine</title><url>https://www.zen-browser.app/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gxonatano</author><text>The problems these browsers are trying to solve aren&amp;#x27;t web browser problems, they&amp;#x27;re window manager problems. Your web browser shouldn&amp;#x27;t try to be a window manager.&lt;p&gt;- If you want to have two web pages side-by-side, you don&amp;#x27;t need a web browser that can handle split panes. Just have each web page in its own window and use your window manager to put them side-by-side. Tiling window managers will do this automatically.&lt;p&gt;- If you want to have several web pages open but not visible, so that you can switch between them (i.e., tabs), just use your window manager&amp;#x27;s tabs, stacks, or workspaces.&lt;p&gt;- If you have want to have 100 tabs open, you should be using bookmarks or history instead of tabs.&lt;p&gt;- If you want to have different workspaces, profiles, or so on, use your window manager&amp;#x27;s workspaces. You can even name workspaces according to projects or tasks, and assign windows to them automatically.&lt;p&gt;Any modern window manager will do, but ones with automatic tiling are the best. Sway, i3, Monad, Hyprland, Awesome, and Newm are a few.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>whodev</author><text>Tbh, I think this is way more subjective then you&amp;#x27;re making it out to be. I subjectively would not want to use a WM for most of these points.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; - If you want to have two web pages side-by-side, you don&amp;#x27;t need a web browser that can handle split panes. Just have each web page in its own window and use your window manager to put them side-by-side. Tiling window managers will do this automatically.&lt;p&gt;I feel Edge does this better then any browser or WM. As a user, I don&amp;#x27;t want to see the browser&amp;#x27;s window border, or UI duplicated. Edge has a very easy and friendly split view does exactly what I would expect.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; - If you have want to have 100 tabs open, you should be using bookmarks or history instead of tabs.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m sorry, but I am not going to add every article I may want to read later as a bookmark or add to my history. If I added it as a bookmark and read it, I&amp;#x27;ll have to remove it as a bookmark next. That&amp;#x27;s already more steps then just opening it in a background tab by middle clicking my mouse and closing the tab after reading it. My bookmarks are for items that I want to keep, not one time uses.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; - If you want to have different workspaces, profiles, or so on, use your window manager&amp;#x27;s workspaces. You can even name workspaces according to projects or tasks, and assign windows to them automatically.&lt;p&gt;Nope. I have different profiles for my browser to seperate accounts, cookies, history, settings, etc... I don&amp;#x27;t think a WM could do this like using a browser could. In Edge I can just open the browser in my work profile and my Google work account is logged in with my Slack as a pinned tab versus using my personal profile and having my personal Google account logged in with YT Music as a pinned tab. This is a critical feature to me.</text></comment>