<story><title>UChicago doctors see ‘remarkable’ success using ventilator alternatives</title><url>https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/uchicago-medicine-doctors-see-truly-remarkable-success-using-ventilator-alternatives-to-treat-covid19</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>DanielBMarkham</author><text>One of the most interesting parts of this press release, following it on other boards, is the immediate &amp;quot;We already do that. Nothing new here.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;That kind of reply would immediately lead me to think it was just a useless release, but then I see people posting comments along the lines of &amp;quot;No, we don&amp;#x27;t do that. In fact, we have a policy against doing that because of the danger of aerosolization&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;For my hacker&amp;#x2F;systems wonks, this a great example of group learning happening world wide. I imagine there are many ICUs that do this, and many that forbid it. In such an environment, releases like this aren&amp;#x27;t submarines or spam; they&amp;#x27;re recurring prompts to administrators elsewhere that they might be missing something important.&lt;p&gt;I hate to sound cold, but damn this is an interesting example of how organizations learn. One commenter asked &amp;quot;I wonder how many of those hospitals who forbid intubation are doing it to patients with good insurance&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;For the record, as far as I know this is a horrible thing to suggest. But the overall point, that large organizations have incentives that are many times removed from the actual work being done, is a good one.&lt;p&gt;This kind of conversation facilitation across borders is what the internet was supposed to be doing. I think this is the first time I&amp;#x27;ve seen it working the way we had hoped. What&amp;#x27;s especially interesting to me is that many of the signals we look for in social forums, like &amp;quot;this is just a spam press release&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;nothing new to see&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;there&amp;#x27;s some ulterior motivation here&amp;quot; voting up or down, etc., are actually counter-indicators and inhibitors of overall progress.</text></comment>
<story><title>UChicago doctors see ‘remarkable’ success using ventilator alternatives</title><url>https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/uchicago-medicine-doctors-see-truly-remarkable-success-using-ventilator-alternatives-to-treat-covid19</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>theobeers</author><text>One of the most active figures in this debate has been a New York doctor named Cameron Kyle-Sidell. He frequently posts interesting sources on Twitter:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;cameronks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;cameronks&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>