<story><title>Auto industry executives admit electric vehicle plans are in jeopardy</title><url>https://www.businessinsider.com/auto-executives-coming-clean-evs-arent-working-2023-10</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>aaronbrethorst</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t want some ridiculous 3 ton electric truck that needs a 131 kWh battery.&lt;p&gt;I want an adorable, tiny EV Mitsubishi Delica for $13,000 new. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.mitsubishi-motors.com&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;newsrelease&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;detail1422.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.mitsubishi-motors.com&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;newsrelease&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;detail...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Or this adorable, tiny EV SUV for about the same price: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.thedrive.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;gms-tiny-electric-pickup-is-an-open-top-truck-meant-for-china&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.thedrive.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;gms-tiny-electric-pickup-is-an...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>JeremyNT</author><text>I would by a car like the ID.3 tomorrow, but they won&amp;#x27;t sell it in the US.&lt;p&gt;The US market is so weird. Mostly dominated by very expensive, very large vehicles. Yet, it seems like the kind of consumer who might want a EV is &lt;i&gt;also&lt;/i&gt; the kind of consumer who would want a smaller vehicle, which would be far more practical. I guess the Bolt (in limbo, with a new design maybe coming?) and Nissan Leaf are pretty much it right now.&lt;p&gt;I think automakers just assume &amp;quot;US consumers want big, expensive cars&amp;quot; and copy&amp;#x2F;pasted that over to their EV offerings, while the big untapped EV market is probably for more practical people who would gladly drive a smaller, more efficient, cheaper vehicle.</text></comment>
<story><title>Auto industry executives admit electric vehicle plans are in jeopardy</title><url>https://www.businessinsider.com/auto-executives-coming-clean-evs-arent-working-2023-10</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>aaronbrethorst</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t want some ridiculous 3 ton electric truck that needs a 131 kWh battery.&lt;p&gt;I want an adorable, tiny EV Mitsubishi Delica for $13,000 new. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.mitsubishi-motors.com&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;newsrelease&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;detail1422.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.mitsubishi-motors.com&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;newsrelease&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;detail...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Or this adorable, tiny EV SUV for about the same price: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.thedrive.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;gms-tiny-electric-pickup-is-an-open-top-truck-meant-for-china&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.thedrive.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;gms-tiny-electric-pickup-is-an...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>topspin</author><text>&amp;quot;3 ton electric truck&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Elon stated that Cybertruck will weigh about 7000 lbs.  That&amp;#x27;s 3.5 tons.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s the same mass as an F-350 DRW (dual rear wheel) loaded with options.&lt;p&gt;Seriously heavy.  I&amp;#x27;m not anti heavy vehicles or anything; I have a 3&amp;#x2F;4 ton truck myself (~5200 lbs.)  I just think it&amp;#x27;s eye opening just how heavy these EVs are.</text></comment>