<story><title>Ryzen Z1&apos;s Tiny iGPU</title><url>https://chipsandcheese.com/2024/02/25/ryzen-z1s-tiny-igpu/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dannyw</author><text>My pet gripe with AMD and Intel is that their APUs &amp;#x2F; gaming chips always over-index on CPU performance, and under-index on GPU performance.&lt;p&gt;I get it, it’s a CPU&amp;#x2F;SoC. But the end users care about FPS. Dedicate more of your die area to GPUs, and you’d crown the competition.&lt;p&gt;Steam Deck, and the PS5&amp;#x2F;Xbox chips are the sole exceptions; I wish those chips were available to consumers to buy.&lt;p&gt;Give me a quad core, or hexa core at most, with top of the line integrated graphics. The extra 4 cores are wasted die space for gamers.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Tuna-Fish</author><text>The lead APU of each generation usually wouldn&amp;#x27;t get meaningfully faster if you just spent more silicon on the GPU instead of the CPU.&lt;p&gt;The fundamental problem here is that GPUs require more memory bandwidth than CPUs, the platforms are created for CPUs, resulting in a pretty hard cap on APU GPU performance using the same platform. Generational GPU performance gains on APUs happen when the platforms update to faster memory.&lt;p&gt;The big break in this will be Strix Halo, coming from AMD either next year or late this year, as it will support 256-bit LPDDR5. Even using the fastest LPDDR5 available on the market, this will still just barely match the memory performance of Radeon 7600, the weakest current-gen discrete GPU AMD has on the market.</text></comment>
<story><title>Ryzen Z1&apos;s Tiny iGPU</title><url>https://chipsandcheese.com/2024/02/25/ryzen-z1s-tiny-igpu/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dannyw</author><text>My pet gripe with AMD and Intel is that their APUs &amp;#x2F; gaming chips always over-index on CPU performance, and under-index on GPU performance.&lt;p&gt;I get it, it’s a CPU&amp;#x2F;SoC. But the end users care about FPS. Dedicate more of your die area to GPUs, and you’d crown the competition.&lt;p&gt;Steam Deck, and the PS5&amp;#x2F;Xbox chips are the sole exceptions; I wish those chips were available to consumers to buy.&lt;p&gt;Give me a quad core, or hexa core at most, with top of the line integrated graphics. The extra 4 cores are wasted die space for gamers.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>blackoil</author><text>How big is the market? Anyone even little serious about gaming will get a dedicated GPU and they can&amp;#x27;t beat it no matter how much space they use. It will have weaker cpu that will hurt in many tasks. x86 isn&amp;#x27;t big in mobile form factor.</text></comment>