<story><title>FBI tells lawmakers it can&apos;t access Dayton gunman&apos;s phone</title><url>https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/456742-fbi-tells-lawmakers-it-cant-access-phone-of-dayton-gunman</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>whatthesmack</author><text>The trouble with those policies (aside from 100-round barrels... I have no idea what that means, and I don’t think you do either) is that they’re often-mentioned, but people forget to ask the question, “Have these policies actually improved anything where they’ve been implemented?” Many of the recently-publicized shootings in the US have occurred in California, which has some of the most strict firearms laws in the nation.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; We can reduce gun ownership
Do we actually want that, though? There are murmurs of defensive firearms use instances in the millions annually, whilst there are around 7k non-suicide-related deaths by firearm annually (1) (significantly less if you remove big anti-gun cities from the picture).&lt;p&gt;Compare firearms deaths with other causes:&lt;p&gt;* 70,000+ die from a drug overdose (2)
* 49,000 people die per year from the flu (3)
* 37,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities (4)
* 250,000+ people die each year from preventable medical errors. (5)
* 610,000 people die per year from heart disease (6)&lt;p&gt;There are a lot of things that might sound reasonable on the surface that the media likes to tout in the firearms debate, but many of them don’t hold muster. Why guns are the hot-button issue and heart disease isn’t plastered over the media 24&amp;#x2F;7? I think somebody has an agenda.&lt;p&gt;[1] 30k deaths per &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;nchs&amp;#x2F;data&amp;#x2F;nvsr&amp;#x2F;nvsr64&amp;#x2F;nvsr64_02.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;nchs&amp;#x2F;data&amp;#x2F;nvsr&amp;#x2F;nvsr64&amp;#x2F;nvsr64_02.pdf&lt;/a&gt;, minus 23k suicides per &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;nchs&amp;#x2F;data&amp;#x2F;nhamcs&amp;#x2F;web_tables&amp;#x2F;2015_ed_web_tables.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;nchs&amp;#x2F;data&amp;#x2F;nhamcs&amp;#x2F;web_tables&amp;#x2F;2015_ed_web_...&lt;/a&gt;
[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.drugabuse.gov&amp;#x2F;related-topics&amp;#x2F;trends-statistics&amp;#x2F;overdose-death-rates&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.drugabuse.gov&amp;#x2F;related-topics&amp;#x2F;trends-statistics&amp;#x2F;o...&lt;/a&gt;
[3] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;flu&amp;#x2F;about&amp;#x2F;burden&amp;#x2F;faq.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;flu&amp;#x2F;about&amp;#x2F;burden&amp;#x2F;faq.htm&lt;/a&gt;
[4] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov&amp;#x2F;Api&amp;#x2F;Public&amp;#x2F;ViewPublication&amp;#x2F;812603&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov&amp;#x2F;Api&amp;#x2F;Public&amp;#x2F;ViewPublication&amp;#x2F;...&lt;/a&gt;
[5] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;s&amp;#x2F;www.cnbc.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;02&amp;#x2F;22&amp;#x2F;medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;s&amp;#x2F;www.cnbc.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;02&amp;#x2F;22&amp;#x2F;med...&lt;/a&gt;
[6] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;heartdisease&amp;#x2F;facts.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;heartdisease&amp;#x2F;facts.htm&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>tootie</author><text>America has vast and currently unimpeachable rights to weaponry. There is a huge swath of policy space between that and banning gun ownership. We can reduce gun ownership, trafficking and weapon deadliness a thousand different ways while not adversely impacting legitimate usage. Universal background checks, limiting purchase frequency, banning 100-round barrels, increasing liability for dealers.</text></item><item><author>randallsquared</author><text>In the US, there are more firearms than people.  About one-third of all households have at least one firearm [0].  The vast majority of these people have never had a serious brush with law enforcement, but some significant portion would refuse to part with their guns if a ban were enacted tomorrow.  While it is said that nearly all Americans are felons [1], most Americans do not intentionally commit felonies or think of themselves as being on the opposite side of things from law enforcement.  That would suddenly change for millions of ban-defying US citizens, and it&amp;#x27;s hard for me to imagine a likely scenario where that decreases violence in the US.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.npr.org&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;01&amp;#x2F;05&amp;#x2F;462017461&amp;#x2F;guns-in-america-by-the-numbers&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.npr.org&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;01&amp;#x2F;05&amp;#x2F;462017461&amp;#x2F;guns-in-america-by-...&lt;/a&gt;
[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ips-dc.org&amp;#x2F;three-felonies-day&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ips-dc.org&amp;#x2F;three-felonies-day&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>ben_w</author><text>Is the American government position “Guns don’t kill people, encryption kills people”, or am I just combining the personal opinions of a bunch of unrelated people who work for the government?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>6gvONxR4sf7o</author><text>&amp;gt;Many of the recently-publicized shootings in the US have occurred in California&lt;p&gt;Many &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; occurs in California. It has 12% of the US population. To be representative, one in eight US things should occur here.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;Why guns are the hot-button issue and heart disease isn’t plastered over the media 24&amp;#x2F;7?&lt;p&gt;If someone went out one saturday and gave 20 random people (or immigrants) a heart attack, it would be too. A huge amount of resources are already spent on things like preventing flu deaths. We just all agree it&amp;#x27;s the smart thing to do, for reasons you cited.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s not evidence to not ignore gun violence, it&amp;#x27;s evidence to put as much effort into prevention as we do for e.g. flu and disease.</text></comment>
<story><title>FBI tells lawmakers it can&apos;t access Dayton gunman&apos;s phone</title><url>https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/456742-fbi-tells-lawmakers-it-cant-access-phone-of-dayton-gunman</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>whatthesmack</author><text>The trouble with those policies (aside from 100-round barrels... I have no idea what that means, and I don’t think you do either) is that they’re often-mentioned, but people forget to ask the question, “Have these policies actually improved anything where they’ve been implemented?” Many of the recently-publicized shootings in the US have occurred in California, which has some of the most strict firearms laws in the nation.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; We can reduce gun ownership
Do we actually want that, though? There are murmurs of defensive firearms use instances in the millions annually, whilst there are around 7k non-suicide-related deaths by firearm annually (1) (significantly less if you remove big anti-gun cities from the picture).&lt;p&gt;Compare firearms deaths with other causes:&lt;p&gt;* 70,000+ die from a drug overdose (2)
* 49,000 people die per year from the flu (3)
* 37,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities (4)
* 250,000+ people die each year from preventable medical errors. (5)
* 610,000 people die per year from heart disease (6)&lt;p&gt;There are a lot of things that might sound reasonable on the surface that the media likes to tout in the firearms debate, but many of them don’t hold muster. Why guns are the hot-button issue and heart disease isn’t plastered over the media 24&amp;#x2F;7? I think somebody has an agenda.&lt;p&gt;[1] 30k deaths per &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;nchs&amp;#x2F;data&amp;#x2F;nvsr&amp;#x2F;nvsr64&amp;#x2F;nvsr64_02.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;nchs&amp;#x2F;data&amp;#x2F;nvsr&amp;#x2F;nvsr64&amp;#x2F;nvsr64_02.pdf&lt;/a&gt;, minus 23k suicides per &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;nchs&amp;#x2F;data&amp;#x2F;nhamcs&amp;#x2F;web_tables&amp;#x2F;2015_ed_web_tables.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;nchs&amp;#x2F;data&amp;#x2F;nhamcs&amp;#x2F;web_tables&amp;#x2F;2015_ed_web_...&lt;/a&gt;
[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.drugabuse.gov&amp;#x2F;related-topics&amp;#x2F;trends-statistics&amp;#x2F;overdose-death-rates&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.drugabuse.gov&amp;#x2F;related-topics&amp;#x2F;trends-statistics&amp;#x2F;o...&lt;/a&gt;
[3] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;flu&amp;#x2F;about&amp;#x2F;burden&amp;#x2F;faq.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;flu&amp;#x2F;about&amp;#x2F;burden&amp;#x2F;faq.htm&lt;/a&gt;
[4] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov&amp;#x2F;Api&amp;#x2F;Public&amp;#x2F;ViewPublication&amp;#x2F;812603&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov&amp;#x2F;Api&amp;#x2F;Public&amp;#x2F;ViewPublication&amp;#x2F;...&lt;/a&gt;
[5] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;s&amp;#x2F;www.cnbc.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;02&amp;#x2F;22&amp;#x2F;medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;s&amp;#x2F;www.cnbc.com&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;02&amp;#x2F;22&amp;#x2F;med...&lt;/a&gt;
[6] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;heartdisease&amp;#x2F;facts.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cdc.gov&amp;#x2F;heartdisease&amp;#x2F;facts.htm&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>tootie</author><text>America has vast and currently unimpeachable rights to weaponry. There is a huge swath of policy space between that and banning gun ownership. We can reduce gun ownership, trafficking and weapon deadliness a thousand different ways while not adversely impacting legitimate usage. Universal background checks, limiting purchase frequency, banning 100-round barrels, increasing liability for dealers.</text></item><item><author>randallsquared</author><text>In the US, there are more firearms than people.  About one-third of all households have at least one firearm [0].  The vast majority of these people have never had a serious brush with law enforcement, but some significant portion would refuse to part with their guns if a ban were enacted tomorrow.  While it is said that nearly all Americans are felons [1], most Americans do not intentionally commit felonies or think of themselves as being on the opposite side of things from law enforcement.  That would suddenly change for millions of ban-defying US citizens, and it&amp;#x27;s hard for me to imagine a likely scenario where that decreases violence in the US.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.npr.org&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;01&amp;#x2F;05&amp;#x2F;462017461&amp;#x2F;guns-in-america-by-the-numbers&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.npr.org&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;01&amp;#x2F;05&amp;#x2F;462017461&amp;#x2F;guns-in-america-by-...&lt;/a&gt;
[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ips-dc.org&amp;#x2F;three-felonies-day&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ips-dc.org&amp;#x2F;three-felonies-day&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>ben_w</author><text>Is the American government position “Guns don’t kill people, encryption kills people”, or am I just combining the personal opinions of a bunch of unrelated people who work for the government?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wyldfire</author><text>&amp;gt; Many of the recently-publicized shootings in the US have occurred in California, which has some of the most strict firearms laws in the nation&lt;p&gt;If California&amp;#x27;s laws prevented some but not all of the shootings then it still should be considered a success.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Why guns are the hot-button issue and heart disease isn’t plastered over the media 24&amp;#x2F;7? I&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t think this is honest. If your mother and father died in a mass shooting you would not feel the same as if they had died of heart disease.  To treat the trauma of violent deaths differently from illness&amp;#x2F;disease is very natural.&lt;p&gt;Rationally, if heart disease suddenly killed tens of people in a single event you had better believe it would make headlines.</text></comment>