<story><title>Apple has pushed a silent Mac update to remove hidden Zoom web server</title><url>https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/10/apple-silent-update-zoom-app/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Deimorz</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t think disabling the enterprise certs was particularly moral, Facebook and Google were flagrantly violating the terms of the enterprise program. Apple also apparently didn&amp;#x27;t even notice (or didn&amp;#x27;t care) until articles about it started getting a lot of attention.&lt;p&gt;Apple definitely does make some commendable decisions, but I think it&amp;#x27;s also important to distinguish between bravery and what Ben Thompson calls &amp;quot;Strategy Credits&amp;quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;stratechery.com&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;strategy-credit&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;stratechery.com&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;strategy-credit&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Strategy Credit: An uncomplicated decision that makes a company look good relative to other companies who face much more significant trade-offs.</text></item><item><author>rawrmaan</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s pretty epic. Apple continues to make big, brave moral gestures (like when they yanked Facebook and Google&amp;#x27;s enterprise certs earlier this year, or killed long-term tracking cookies in Safari overnight).&lt;p&gt;Makes me happy to be a customer. Hope they keep enforcing their own rules and protecting their users&amp;#x27; privacy and security in this fearless manner.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>judge2020</author><text>&amp;gt; Apple also apparently didn&amp;#x27;t even notice&lt;p&gt;Do they have any information about enterprise apps? As I understand it, Apple never phones home with app info (such as the identifier, name, etc) when verifying or installing enterprise-signed apps, so the only thing they know is probably the IP address requesting to verify the enterprise-signed app and the frequency of how often Apple devices do this certificate verification.&lt;p&gt;Considering FB and Google have many employees in all different parts of the world, it wouldn&amp;#x27;t be too suspicious to see a good amount of diversity between GeoIP regions.&lt;p&gt;Correct me if i&amp;#x27;m wrong about what info Apple collects about enterprise apps.</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple has pushed a silent Mac update to remove hidden Zoom web server</title><url>https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/10/apple-silent-update-zoom-app/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Deimorz</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t think disabling the enterprise certs was particularly moral, Facebook and Google were flagrantly violating the terms of the enterprise program. Apple also apparently didn&amp;#x27;t even notice (or didn&amp;#x27;t care) until articles about it started getting a lot of attention.&lt;p&gt;Apple definitely does make some commendable decisions, but I think it&amp;#x27;s also important to distinguish between bravery and what Ben Thompson calls &amp;quot;Strategy Credits&amp;quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;stratechery.com&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;strategy-credit&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;stratechery.com&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;strategy-credit&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Strategy Credit: An uncomplicated decision that makes a company look good relative to other companies who face much more significant trade-offs.</text></item><item><author>rawrmaan</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s pretty epic. Apple continues to make big, brave moral gestures (like when they yanked Facebook and Google&amp;#x27;s enterprise certs earlier this year, or killed long-term tracking cookies in Safari overnight).&lt;p&gt;Makes me happy to be a customer. Hope they keep enforcing their own rules and protecting their users&amp;#x27; privacy and security in this fearless manner.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>curt15</author><text>Indeed a company&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;morals&amp;quot; are better exposed when it has to make inconvenient choices.</text></comment>