<story><title>Cloudflare lobbied FTC to stifle security researchers</title><url>https://twitter.com/taviso/status/1566077115992133634</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>braingenious</author><text>This is tangential but kind of on-topic since Tavis mentions KF in the replies, but I’ve found it pretty amusing that Cloudflare’s position on enabling doxxing, harassment and DDOS-for-hire has been “Aw shucks, we’re just too darn powerful to do anything about any of this!”&lt;p&gt;It’s as if &lt;i&gt;anybody&lt;/i&gt; could fall ass backwards into a situation where they built up an organization that dictates what’s on the internet as a whoopsie, and oh no, &lt;i&gt;you too&lt;/i&gt; would have to enable harassment, doxxing and DDOS-for-hire because shucks, all that darn unlimited, unchecked and unregulated power, access to money and legal resources is &lt;i&gt;actually&lt;/i&gt; the same thing as having no power at all! Poor Cloudflare, they can do literally whatever they want and that means they can’t do anything at all!</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>EarlKing</author><text>No, their argument was that they shouldn&amp;#x27;t do anything about it because the two times they did it wound up causing every tinpot dictatorship to show up on their doorstep and demand they do the same for people that hadn&amp;#x27;t done anything wrong except piss off the wrong dictator. This is why rights exist in the first place: so that when some idiot erroneously says your sight is &amp;quot;enabling doxxing, harassment and DDOS-for-hire&amp;quot; when all you actually do is document the bad behavior of bad individuals on the internet, well, you don&amp;#x27;t get run out of town on a pole... because the guy with the pole knows that today it&amp;#x27;s you, but tomorrow it could be him.</text></comment>
<story><title>Cloudflare lobbied FTC to stifle security researchers</title><url>https://twitter.com/taviso/status/1566077115992133634</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>braingenious</author><text>This is tangential but kind of on-topic since Tavis mentions KF in the replies, but I’ve found it pretty amusing that Cloudflare’s position on enabling doxxing, harassment and DDOS-for-hire has been “Aw shucks, we’re just too darn powerful to do anything about any of this!”&lt;p&gt;It’s as if &lt;i&gt;anybody&lt;/i&gt; could fall ass backwards into a situation where they built up an organization that dictates what’s on the internet as a whoopsie, and oh no, &lt;i&gt;you too&lt;/i&gt; would have to enable harassment, doxxing and DDOS-for-hire because shucks, all that darn unlimited, unchecked and unregulated power, access to money and legal resources is &lt;i&gt;actually&lt;/i&gt; the same thing as having no power at all! Poor Cloudflare, they can do literally whatever they want and that means they can’t do anything at all!</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>penrouse</author><text>Seems to me they&amp;#x27;re operating on a matter of principle.&lt;p&gt;The Christians who run my local food bank do similar. Their clients include some of the worst people: rapists, paedophiles, murders - released from prison, with nothing and no-one to help them, other than these kind churchly individuals. Their principle is that Jesus would want them to help their fellow humans in need, no matter what their sins. So they do.&lt;p&gt;Obviously it&amp;#x27;s a bit different with Cloudflare as they&amp;#x27;re a for-profit company of diversely ideological employees, not a non-profit charity of devoutly religious volunteers. But the former type of organisation can run on principles other than making money hand-over-fist too.</text></comment>