<story><title>NextDoor Says Users Who Share Posts with Reporters Could Be Kicked Off the Site</title><url>http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/10/08/nextdoor-says-users-who-share-posts-with-reporters-could-be-kicked-off-the-site/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>krinchan</author><text>To be fair, at least in the Southeastern US, NextDoor is more...RacistDoor.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve seen people ask the best way to report black people to the cops so they&amp;#x27;ll be kept from driving through &amp;quot;our safe neighborhood.&amp;quot; It&amp;#x27;s so full of dog whistles my neighbors dogs bark when I open the app.&lt;p&gt;The only reason NextDoor is freaking out is because they know there&amp;#x27;s enough of that sort of material to really cause a mass exodus if it ever escaped the neighborhoods it&amp;#x27;s posted in.&lt;p&gt;That said...it&amp;#x27;s...a weird issue, to be sure. NextDoor tried to encourage an expectation of privacy but like...who actually expects that? Really. Anyone with a credit card matching the address they key in can get in. It&amp;#x27;s not the post card only thing any more.&lt;p&gt;I could easily change my billing address on my credit card, sign up for some neighborhood on the west coast, and then change my CC address back. Done.&lt;p&gt;NextDoor has done nothing to actually secure the neighborhood, so it&amp;#x27;s not like it means anything to say this to the customers. If anything, the neighborhood members could possibly sue NextDoor for overstating the privacy of their posts.&lt;p&gt;I guess the conclusion is: I&amp;#x27;m not just throwing my hands up and saying, &amp;quot;Oh well it&amp;#x27;s online no privacy!&amp;quot; I&amp;#x27;m more saying this is probably the absolute worst hill to choose to fight that battle on.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wpietri</author><text>Wow, so many people all over the US with basically the same experience. For those interested in the history of this phenomenon, I strongly recommend the book &amp;quot;Sundown Towns&amp;quot;:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.amazon.com&amp;#x2F;Sundown-Towns-Hidden-Dimension-American&amp;#x2F;dp&amp;#x2F;0743294483&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.amazon.com&amp;#x2F;Sundown-Towns-Hidden-Dimension-Americ...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;My hazy understanding of American racism, which I now know to be wrong, was that it&amp;#x27;s always been getting better. Sure, slavery, but then the Civil War and an upward climb from there to the Civil Rights era and beyond. Except for the South, I thought.&lt;p&gt;It turns out the US had period after Reconstruction, know as the Nadir [1], when anti-black sentiment and action grew significantly. A wave of ethnic cleansing circa 1890-1920 led to a lot of all-white towns all over the country, ones where non-whites weren&amp;#x27;t allowed after dark. (Thus the title of the book.)&lt;p&gt;Chapter 11, &amp;quot;The Effect of Sundown Towns on Whites&amp;quot;, talks a lot about how growing up in white-only areas leads white people to have enormously distorted perceptions of the dangers of black people. After reading that chapter, the RacistDoor phenomenon made a lot more sense to me.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;search?client=ubuntu&amp;amp;channel=fs&amp;amp;q=the+nadir&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.google.com&amp;#x2F;search?client=ubuntu&amp;amp;channel=fs&amp;amp;q=the...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>NextDoor Says Users Who Share Posts with Reporters Could Be Kicked Off the Site</title><url>http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/10/08/nextdoor-says-users-who-share-posts-with-reporters-could-be-kicked-off-the-site/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>krinchan</author><text>To be fair, at least in the Southeastern US, NextDoor is more...RacistDoor.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve seen people ask the best way to report black people to the cops so they&amp;#x27;ll be kept from driving through &amp;quot;our safe neighborhood.&amp;quot; It&amp;#x27;s so full of dog whistles my neighbors dogs bark when I open the app.&lt;p&gt;The only reason NextDoor is freaking out is because they know there&amp;#x27;s enough of that sort of material to really cause a mass exodus if it ever escaped the neighborhoods it&amp;#x27;s posted in.&lt;p&gt;That said...it&amp;#x27;s...a weird issue, to be sure. NextDoor tried to encourage an expectation of privacy but like...who actually expects that? Really. Anyone with a credit card matching the address they key in can get in. It&amp;#x27;s not the post card only thing any more.&lt;p&gt;I could easily change my billing address on my credit card, sign up for some neighborhood on the west coast, and then change my CC address back. Done.&lt;p&gt;NextDoor has done nothing to actually secure the neighborhood, so it&amp;#x27;s not like it means anything to say this to the customers. If anything, the neighborhood members could possibly sue NextDoor for overstating the privacy of their posts.&lt;p&gt;I guess the conclusion is: I&amp;#x27;m not just throwing my hands up and saying, &amp;quot;Oh well it&amp;#x27;s online no privacy!&amp;quot; I&amp;#x27;m more saying this is probably the absolute worst hill to choose to fight that battle on.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rrauenza</author><text>I live in the heart of silicon valley in a very diverse neighborhood.  Indian, Jewish, Persian, Chinese, white, Muslim, ...&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&amp;#x27;t call it racism, but it is other-ism, and it comes from all corners.  This person doesn&amp;#x27;t look like he belongs in our neighborhood -- often it&amp;#x27;s more about social economic &amp;#x2F; class -- what vehicle they&amp;#x27;re driving, how they&amp;#x27;re dressed, are they a race that doesn&amp;#x27;t typically live in our mostly diverse neighborhood.&lt;p&gt;We have a lot of burglaries and it just drives up the paranoia.</text></comment>