<story><title>Tech Needs More Conscientious Objectors</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/opinion/google-privacy-china.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ABCLAW</author><text>I think the imposition of this burden on engineers is the result of our belief that our legislators are too incompetent or unwilling to act in the fact of clear moral hazards.&lt;p&gt;Tech has a very strong history of conscientious objectors. They&amp;#x27;re not the problem. Other institutions need to do their part.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jondubois</author><text>The core of the problem is that the masses do not have shared values anymore. There are no moral ideals to aim towards.&lt;p&gt;Without values there is no good or evil, there is only power and those too weak to seek it.</text></comment>
<story><title>Tech Needs More Conscientious Objectors</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/opinion/google-privacy-china.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ABCLAW</author><text>I think the imposition of this burden on engineers is the result of our belief that our legislators are too incompetent or unwilling to act in the fact of clear moral hazards.&lt;p&gt;Tech has a very strong history of conscientious objectors. They&amp;#x27;re not the problem. Other institutions need to do their part.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>killjoywashere</author><text>I wrote a response to an email today, someone had sent me two ethics position papers. I pigeon-holed my own response after I wrote &amp;quot;it&amp;#x27;s time policy makers start assuming responsibility for understanding more logic than just policy logic. Math must be part of their domain expertise&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;Mainly I shelved my response because I doubt the policy people on the thread would have taken that very well. But the truth is looming large these days.</text></comment>