<story><title>Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand up for ourselves”</title><url>https://medium.com/@moran2017j/time-for-tesla-to-listen-ab5c6259fc88</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mikeash</author><text>It would be sensible to sacrifice the well-being of a small group in order to save the whole, if it&amp;#x27;s necessary to do so. I don&amp;#x27;t think your inference makes any sense. Poor working conditions for one factory and saving the planet as a whole are different concerns.&lt;p&gt;That said, I would certainly like to see them improve in this area. I&amp;#x27;m a big fan of Tesla, but they are not without their flaws, and working conditions appear to be one of them. They should do better. Not because it somehow conflicts with their mission, but just because it&amp;#x27;s the right thing to do.</text></item><item><author>xmonkee</author><text>Tesla&amp;#x27;s entire marketing message is about how they are saving the planet. It&amp;#x27;s really ironic then how many times I&amp;#x27;ve heard about the terrible working conditions at their factories. One cannot really trust a message about saving the planet when you don&amp;#x27;t care about the people who need the saving.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>AlexandrB</author><text>&amp;gt; It would be sensible to sacrifice the well-being of a small group in order to save the whole, if it&amp;#x27;s necessary to do so.&lt;p&gt;To paraphrase: &amp;quot;The ends justify the means&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;I disagree. That road leads to all kinds of evil.</text></comment>
<story><title>Tesla factory worker calls for a union: “We need to stand up for ourselves”</title><url>https://medium.com/@moran2017j/time-for-tesla-to-listen-ab5c6259fc88</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mikeash</author><text>It would be sensible to sacrifice the well-being of a small group in order to save the whole, if it&amp;#x27;s necessary to do so. I don&amp;#x27;t think your inference makes any sense. Poor working conditions for one factory and saving the planet as a whole are different concerns.&lt;p&gt;That said, I would certainly like to see them improve in this area. I&amp;#x27;m a big fan of Tesla, but they are not without their flaws, and working conditions appear to be one of them. They should do better. Not because it somehow conflicts with their mission, but just because it&amp;#x27;s the right thing to do.</text></item><item><author>xmonkee</author><text>Tesla&amp;#x27;s entire marketing message is about how they are saving the planet. It&amp;#x27;s really ironic then how many times I&amp;#x27;ve heard about the terrible working conditions at their factories. One cannot really trust a message about saving the planet when you don&amp;#x27;t care about the people who need the saving.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>yarou</author><text>&amp;gt; Poor working conditions for one factory and saving the planet as a whole are different concerns.&lt;p&gt;I think that&amp;#x27;s contradictory. If you are setting out to save the world, but you can&amp;#x27;t improve factory conditions for your own workers, how have you shown the capability to save the world?&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m reminded of having a strong AI agent that&amp;#x27;s given the condition &amp;quot;save humanity&amp;quot;. That condition can be satisfied by having no humans on the planet to save.</text></comment>