<story><title>Google Docs will “warn you away from inappropriate words”</title><url>https://twitter.com/pmarca/status/1516463416885399554</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gkoberger</author><text>Here&amp;#x27;s the announcement from Google: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;workspaceupdates.googleblog.com&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;more-assistive-writing-suggestions-in.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;workspaceupdates.googleblog.com&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;more-assisti...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;You could think of it as Google wanting to police people, OR you could see it as Google seeing that a ton of people use Grammarly and clearly want this feature. (Remember, Google Docs is used for lots of formal docs. It&amp;#x27;s not a chat app or Twitter clone.)&lt;p&gt;As it turns out, a lot of people &lt;i&gt;choose&lt;/i&gt; to be inclusive and non-inflammatory.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>woojoo666</author><text>&amp;gt; As it turns out, a lot of people &lt;i&gt;choose&lt;/i&gt; to be inclusive and non-inflammatory.&lt;p&gt;I think you are making the implicit assumption here that there is a single path towards &amp;quot;inclusive&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;non-inflammatory&amp;quot;. But that&amp;#x27;s not always the case. For example, some people prefer the term GSRM (Gender-Sexual-Romantic Minority [1]) in favor of LGBT because they see it as more inclusive. Others see it as problematic [2]. Should Google Docs push one term over the other? Or just not make a stance? But how do they choose when to make a stance? Because once they do start making a stance, it has &lt;i&gt;massive&lt;/i&gt; influence over the public. And that&amp;#x27;s the real issue; these features allow companies to have greater and greater influence and power over the public discourse.&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Sexual_minority&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Sexual_minority&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Sexual_minority#Controversy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Sexual_minority#Controversy&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Google Docs will “warn you away from inappropriate words”</title><url>https://twitter.com/pmarca/status/1516463416885399554</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gkoberger</author><text>Here&amp;#x27;s the announcement from Google: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;workspaceupdates.googleblog.com&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;more-assistive-writing-suggestions-in.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;workspaceupdates.googleblog.com&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;more-assisti...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;You could think of it as Google wanting to police people, OR you could see it as Google seeing that a ton of people use Grammarly and clearly want this feature. (Remember, Google Docs is used for lots of formal docs. It&amp;#x27;s not a chat app or Twitter clone.)&lt;p&gt;As it turns out, a lot of people &lt;i&gt;choose&lt;/i&gt; to be inclusive and non-inflammatory.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>twofornone</author><text>&amp;gt;As it turns out, a lot of people choose to be inclusive and non-inflammatory.&lt;p&gt;Ideologues deliberately gloss over the fact that the &amp;quot;inclusiveness&amp;quot; has become inflammatory.&lt;p&gt;Edit: our D&amp;amp;I consultant does not allow us to use words like &amp;quot;analysis&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;independent&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;lead&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;driven&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;competitive&amp;quot; (there is a whole laundry list) in our job postings to foster &amp;quot;inclusiveness&amp;quot; [0]. The implication that these traits, which are virtues in my culture, are undesirable, is offensive, as is this top-down culturally mandated feminization. Google is doing the same thing here. Its a minority imposing their culture onto others. Let&amp;#x27;s not even get started on the views that we are &lt;i&gt;supposed&lt;/i&gt; to have regarding, say, gender.&lt;p&gt;The same &amp;quot;research&amp;quot; is undoubtedly underpinning Google&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;inclusive&amp;quot; suggestions. Is this really benefitting anybody? It&amp;#x27;s worse than mere coddling, it&amp;#x27;s antithetical to the equality movement, fosters a toxic workplace for straight men, and we should all be pushing back against it.&lt;p&gt;0. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.ongig.com&amp;#x2F;diversity-and-inclusion&amp;#x2F;list-of-gender-coded-words&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.ongig.com&amp;#x2F;diversity-and-inclusion&amp;#x2F;list-of-gende...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>