<story><title>Help make mass surveillance of entire populations uneconomical</title><url>https://prism-break.org/en/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>graderjs</author><text>But if your phone OS &amp;#x2F; cellular firmware is compromised then e2e or even at-rest encryption won&amp;#x27;t matter. Anything you can see on your phone can be seen.&lt;p&gt;I think a more rational alternative is to consider that everything except your unexpressed thoughts and emotions is already logged. At some point, this will become true (if it ain&amp;#x27;t already), so....then you at least will be ahead of that curve.&lt;p&gt;So if everything you do is monitored, how do you achieve privacy in such a world? That is the question, I think.&lt;p&gt;In fact, it&amp;#x27;s similar to how a corporation or nation needs to think about protecting their own secrets. They have to assume compromise (of people, systems, etc)...how do you confuse and compartmentalize what you want to protect?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>freedomben</author><text>Don&amp;#x27;t let perfect be the enemy of good. The likelihood and prevalence of deeply low level monitoring is orders of magnitude less than the likelihood of using modern apps and saas where is virtually guaranteed. It&amp;#x27;s an additive game and you can dramatically reduce invasions, even if you can&amp;#x27;t eliminate them.</text></comment>
<story><title>Help make mass surveillance of entire populations uneconomical</title><url>https://prism-break.org/en/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>graderjs</author><text>But if your phone OS &amp;#x2F; cellular firmware is compromised then e2e or even at-rest encryption won&amp;#x27;t matter. Anything you can see on your phone can be seen.&lt;p&gt;I think a more rational alternative is to consider that everything except your unexpressed thoughts and emotions is already logged. At some point, this will become true (if it ain&amp;#x27;t already), so....then you at least will be ahead of that curve.&lt;p&gt;So if everything you do is monitored, how do you achieve privacy in such a world? That is the question, I think.&lt;p&gt;In fact, it&amp;#x27;s similar to how a corporation or nation needs to think about protecting their own secrets. They have to assume compromise (of people, systems, etc)...how do you confuse and compartmentalize what you want to protect?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>htag</author><text>1. It&amp;#x27;s completely possible to treat your phone as an insecure device.  Maybe I&amp;#x27;m naive, but I think it&amp;#x27;s possible to run a daily Linux system with a reasonable assumption of privacy.&lt;p&gt;2. When you act as if you are being monitored and judged for your words&amp;#x2F;actions, you begin to self govern them to be more acceptable to the presumed omnipresent agent. Sometimes the fear of being surveilled is as powerful as actual surveillance.</text></comment>