<story><title>Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots</title><url>https://missionlocal.org/2022/11/killer-robots-to-be-permitted-under-sfpd-draft-policy/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>vorpalhex</author><text>I agree police should get more training.&lt;p&gt;You will have to fund them more if you want that.</text></item><item><author>woodruffw</author><text>That qualification hasn&amp;#x27;t meant much, going by the rate at which police hurt themselves (and innocent members of the public) with their own service weapons.</text></item><item><author>vorpalhex</author><text>There is a reason firearms come with sights and we make cops qualify with their service weapons.</text></item><item><author>titzer</author><text>&amp;gt; Bystanders.&lt;p&gt;Also vulnerable to bullets, as it turns out.</text></item><item><author>vorpalhex</author><text>Bystanders.&lt;p&gt;You can&amp;#x27;t bet someone elses life based on how well a taser may or may not work.&lt;p&gt;LTL is a real dice throw.</text></item><item><author>Imnimo</author><text>Maybe I lack imagination, but it seems like if you have enough control over a situation that you can deploy a police robot instead of charging in, then you have enough control to make non-lethal force a viable option.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>woodruffw</author><text>At least where I live, giving the police more funding hasn&amp;#x27;t meaningfully improved their ability to comport themselves. If anything, it&amp;#x27;s markedly declined over the last 30 years (while their funding hasn&amp;#x27;t).&lt;p&gt;I think an easier way to make the police more careful with their guns is to limit which cops can carry guns, and to require cops to live in the neighborhoods they police. People tend to be a little more careful with firearms when the stray bullet might hit their friends or family.</text></comment>
<story><title>Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots</title><url>https://missionlocal.org/2022/11/killer-robots-to-be-permitted-under-sfpd-draft-policy/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>vorpalhex</author><text>I agree police should get more training.&lt;p&gt;You will have to fund them more if you want that.</text></item><item><author>woodruffw</author><text>That qualification hasn&amp;#x27;t meant much, going by the rate at which police hurt themselves (and innocent members of the public) with their own service weapons.</text></item><item><author>vorpalhex</author><text>There is a reason firearms come with sights and we make cops qualify with their service weapons.</text></item><item><author>titzer</author><text>&amp;gt; Bystanders.&lt;p&gt;Also vulnerable to bullets, as it turns out.</text></item><item><author>vorpalhex</author><text>Bystanders.&lt;p&gt;You can&amp;#x27;t bet someone elses life based on how well a taser may or may not work.&lt;p&gt;LTL is a real dice throw.</text></item><item><author>Imnimo</author><text>Maybe I lack imagination, but it seems like if you have enough control over a situation that you can deploy a police robot instead of charging in, then you have enough control to make non-lethal force a viable option.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bombcar</author><text>Look up the rates at which a coo draws his duty weapon let alone fires it.&lt;p&gt;And many places offer free range time and many cops don’t even bother.</text></comment>