<story><title>Author of cURL denied entry to the USA</title><url>https://twitter.com/bagder/status/879198063998513152</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nickserv</author><text>&amp;gt; Almost all Americans think this sort of thing is nonsense. But the average American has little standing to hold the American bureaucracy accountable for its nonsense.&lt;p&gt;Sorry but they don&amp;#x27;t get off that easy when almost half of them voted Trump into office.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Americans, especially outside overcrowded urban areas, are courteous, helpful, hospitable people that are very tolerant of other people and ideas.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve found quite the opposite, out in the boonies you&amp;#x27;re more likely to get harassed when you&amp;#x27;re not the &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; color or religion. I&amp;#x27;ve had some really nice, helpful people turn nasty as soon as I mentioned my atheism, for example.</text></item><item><author>humanrebar</author><text>&amp;gt; This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ...&lt;p&gt;Almost all Americans think this sort of thing is nonsense. But the average American has little standing to hold the American bureaucracy accountable for its nonsense.&lt;p&gt;Americans, especially outside overcrowded urban areas, are courteous, helpful, hospitable people that are very tolerant of other people and ideas.</text></item><item><author>y0ghur7_xxx</author><text>This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ...&lt;p&gt;These conferences where people around the world meet should start to be hosted somewhere else. Not in the USA anymore. Somewhere in a country that welcomes people instead of treating all of them like possible threats.&lt;p&gt;Just organize All Hands in Berlin next year. Or Barcelona, or Munich, or Stockholm, or Amsterdam, or whatever. Just not the US anymore. Americans don&amp;#x27;t want foreigners on their soil. Or at least everything looks that way from the outside. Let them be that way.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>phicoh</author><text>You can&amp;#x27;t blame this on Trump alone.&lt;p&gt;8 years of Obama gave increased spying, kept the insane TSA, blocked people born in Iran from entering the country (independent of what nationality they currently have). Gave the ESTA Visa Waiver program, where you have to pay for getting exactly no rights what-so-ever. And as final insult, you are allowed to list the social media you use.</text></comment>
<story><title>Author of cURL denied entry to the USA</title><url>https://twitter.com/bagder/status/879198063998513152</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nickserv</author><text>&amp;gt; Almost all Americans think this sort of thing is nonsense. But the average American has little standing to hold the American bureaucracy accountable for its nonsense.&lt;p&gt;Sorry but they don&amp;#x27;t get off that easy when almost half of them voted Trump into office.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Americans, especially outside overcrowded urban areas, are courteous, helpful, hospitable people that are very tolerant of other people and ideas.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve found quite the opposite, out in the boonies you&amp;#x27;re more likely to get harassed when you&amp;#x27;re not the &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; color or religion. I&amp;#x27;ve had some really nice, helpful people turn nasty as soon as I mentioned my atheism, for example.</text></item><item><author>humanrebar</author><text>&amp;gt; This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ...&lt;p&gt;Almost all Americans think this sort of thing is nonsense. But the average American has little standing to hold the American bureaucracy accountable for its nonsense.&lt;p&gt;Americans, especially outside overcrowded urban areas, are courteous, helpful, hospitable people that are very tolerant of other people and ideas.</text></item><item><author>y0ghur7_xxx</author><text>This may be unpopular on an US-centric site like HN, but the US looks more and more like they want to isolate themselves from the rest of the world: very strict immigration policy, travelers molested by TSA on airports, ...&lt;p&gt;These conferences where people around the world meet should start to be hosted somewhere else. Not in the USA anymore. Somewhere in a country that welcomes people instead of treating all of them like possible threats.&lt;p&gt;Just organize All Hands in Berlin next year. Or Barcelona, or Munich, or Stockholm, or Amsterdam, or whatever. Just not the US anymore. Americans don&amp;#x27;t want foreigners on their soil. Or at least everything looks that way from the outside. Let them be that way.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>humanrebar</author><text>Half didn&amp;#x27;t vote for Trump. Look again at the turnout rates. Also keep in mind that most &amp;quot;Trump voters&amp;quot; voted against Clinton more than they voted for Trump. I think that is kind of silly but that&amp;#x27;s the thought process of the Trump voters I talk to.&lt;p&gt;I can&amp;#x27;t comment about your personal experiences in small town America other than to say that my experience is very different and that referring to areas epithetically (1) undermines your point. America is a very broad and diverse place, though, so there are idiots and bigots in places. But I would just like to point out that kind and welcoming people are easy to find. They don&amp;#x27;t make headlines. And good impressions don&amp;#x27;t last as long as bad ones, I guess.&lt;p&gt;(1) Boonies or boondocks implies a judgemental attitude that people are backwards or unsophisticated. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Boondocks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Boondocks&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>