<story><title>Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/technology/intel-ceo-resigns-consensual-relationship.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ansible</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;Intel is in serious trouble right now.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;The whole semiconductor industry is in trouble right now, though few seem to feel the weight of the issue.&lt;p&gt;We are looking at just a couple process nodes at best before we reach the end of the road for silicon lithography.  Sure, there will be further tweaks on existing techniques which will squeeze out small improvements in power, performance and density.&lt;p&gt;But long gone are the days when we saw steady improvements in circuit density &lt;i&gt;and simultaneously&lt;/i&gt; speed  &lt;i&gt;and simultaneously&lt;/i&gt; cost.&lt;p&gt;When this knowledge finally sinks in with the investment community, it will call into question the valuation of the entire computer industry.  We&amp;#x27;re already seeing that in the desktop space.  I could replace my &lt;i&gt;6-year old&lt;/i&gt; Intel i7-3770 desktop with 32GB of RAM, but what&amp;#x27;s out there that&amp;#x27;s significantly better at a reasonable cost?  Well, a used Xeon workstation maybe, but that&amp;#x27;s about it.&lt;p&gt;That &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be a big red flag to the investment community, but for reasons I don&amp;#x27;t understand, people don&amp;#x27;t seem to care yet.</text></item><item><author>InTheArena</author><text>Intel is in serious trouble right now.They accidentally gaffed recently and stated that their goal was &amp;quot;to keep AMD from getting more then 10-20% of the server market&amp;quot; while they deal with a whole bunch of engineering and fab problems with their current generation of chips. They are also looking down the barrel of Apple abandoning Intel, and for the first time in two decades, unleashing a true X86 competitor to the marketplace.&lt;p&gt;All of these are good reasons the board might want him gone.&lt;p&gt;My only other point is that even on Hacker News, everyone assumes it&amp;#x27;s a female subordinate (count the &amp;quot;she&amp;#x27;s&amp;quot; in this thread). Not that I have any inside knowledge, but it tells you something in how this policy is interpreted.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mastax</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t disagree with the wider point but&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I could replace my 6-year old Intel i7-3770 desktop with 32GB of RAM, but what&amp;#x27;s out there that&amp;#x27;s significantly better at a reasonable cost?&lt;p&gt;AMD Ryzen 7 1700 for $200. ~10% faster single core and you get 8C&amp;#x2F;16T. DDR4 RAM is quite expensive, though.&lt;p&gt;(closest available benchmarks, 1700 is about 3% slower than 2700)
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<story><title>Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/technology/intel-ceo-resigns-consensual-relationship.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ansible</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;Intel is in serious trouble right now.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;The whole semiconductor industry is in trouble right now, though few seem to feel the weight of the issue.&lt;p&gt;We are looking at just a couple process nodes at best before we reach the end of the road for silicon lithography.  Sure, there will be further tweaks on existing techniques which will squeeze out small improvements in power, performance and density.&lt;p&gt;But long gone are the days when we saw steady improvements in circuit density &lt;i&gt;and simultaneously&lt;/i&gt; speed  &lt;i&gt;and simultaneously&lt;/i&gt; cost.&lt;p&gt;When this knowledge finally sinks in with the investment community, it will call into question the valuation of the entire computer industry.  We&amp;#x27;re already seeing that in the desktop space.  I could replace my &lt;i&gt;6-year old&lt;/i&gt; Intel i7-3770 desktop with 32GB of RAM, but what&amp;#x27;s out there that&amp;#x27;s significantly better at a reasonable cost?  Well, a used Xeon workstation maybe, but that&amp;#x27;s about it.&lt;p&gt;That &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be a big red flag to the investment community, but for reasons I don&amp;#x27;t understand, people don&amp;#x27;t seem to care yet.</text></item><item><author>InTheArena</author><text>Intel is in serious trouble right now.They accidentally gaffed recently and stated that their goal was &amp;quot;to keep AMD from getting more then 10-20% of the server market&amp;quot; while they deal with a whole bunch of engineering and fab problems with their current generation of chips. They are also looking down the barrel of Apple abandoning Intel, and for the first time in two decades, unleashing a true X86 competitor to the marketplace.&lt;p&gt;All of these are good reasons the board might want him gone.&lt;p&gt;My only other point is that even on Hacker News, everyone assumes it&amp;#x27;s a female subordinate (count the &amp;quot;she&amp;#x27;s&amp;quot; in this thread). Not that I have any inside knowledge, but it tells you something in how this policy is interpreted.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>coryfklein</author><text>Intel i7-3770 Passmark Score (~6yrs old, was ~$320): 9300 [1]&lt;p&gt;AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Passmark Score (&amp;lt;1yr old, ~$290): 15382 [2]&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s a 65% improvement in benchmark performance. So not the &amp;quot;doubling&amp;quot; trend I was used to growing up, but not insignificant.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cpubenchmark.net&amp;#x2F;cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770+%40+3.40GHz&amp;amp;id=896&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cpubenchmark.net&amp;#x2F;cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-3770+...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cpubenchmark.net&amp;#x2F;cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+2700&amp;amp;id=3240&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cpubenchmark.net&amp;#x2F;cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+2700&amp;amp;id...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>