<story><title>Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers</title><url>https://www.france24.com/en/20190926-airbus-hit-by-series-of-cyber-attacks-on-suppliers</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>roymurdock</author><text>Other comments here incorrectly pointing out that Boeing and Airbus don&amp;#x27;t manufacture in China - they do. And why wouldn&amp;#x27;t they, it&amp;#x27;s obviously much cheaper to manufacture there given material and labor costs. Obviously they don&amp;#x27;t manufacture highly sensitive military aircraft in China, but commercial aircraft, sure why not.&lt;p&gt;What they don&amp;#x27;t do is the design, testing, and certification in China. This is the real IP - not the materials or the assembly techniques, but how to navigate the regulatory landscape of the FAA and the EASA in extremely complex hardware&amp;#x2F;software integrated systems. The article mentions certification documents&amp;#x2F;evidence as a primary target.&lt;p&gt;The funny thing in all this is that passengers inherently trust the FAA and EASA operated system and inherently do not trust a Chinese-owned, manufactured, and regulated system for commercial aircraft. When really this breach was all about the money - Chinese companies want to get in on Boeing and Airbus&amp;#x27; market.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t have a dog in this fight, but I will say that Boeing isn&amp;#x27;t doing itself any favors with it&amp;#x27;s cost cutting efforts on the 737 MAX, and that if it wants to keep consumers trust in its planes over the perception of &amp;quot;inferior&amp;quot; foreign competition, it needs to work much more closely with the FAA to ensure safety is the primary motivating factor on new designs and does not get overriden by fuel efficiency.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>benhurmarcel</author><text>They manufacture in China not mainly because it&amp;#x27;s cheaper (lots of places are cheaper than their home countries), but because it&amp;#x27;s the only way to get a significant part of the large Chinese market.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; inherently do not trust a Chinese-owned, manufactured, and regulated system for commercial aircraft&lt;p&gt;This is true, but it was also true for European airliners in the US at a time. And it took time and effort, but it changed.</text></comment>
<story><title>Airbus hit by series of cyber attacks on suppliers</title><url>https://www.france24.com/en/20190926-airbus-hit-by-series-of-cyber-attacks-on-suppliers</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>roymurdock</author><text>Other comments here incorrectly pointing out that Boeing and Airbus don&amp;#x27;t manufacture in China - they do. And why wouldn&amp;#x27;t they, it&amp;#x27;s obviously much cheaper to manufacture there given material and labor costs. Obviously they don&amp;#x27;t manufacture highly sensitive military aircraft in China, but commercial aircraft, sure why not.&lt;p&gt;What they don&amp;#x27;t do is the design, testing, and certification in China. This is the real IP - not the materials or the assembly techniques, but how to navigate the regulatory landscape of the FAA and the EASA in extremely complex hardware&amp;#x2F;software integrated systems. The article mentions certification documents&amp;#x2F;evidence as a primary target.&lt;p&gt;The funny thing in all this is that passengers inherently trust the FAA and EASA operated system and inherently do not trust a Chinese-owned, manufactured, and regulated system for commercial aircraft. When really this breach was all about the money - Chinese companies want to get in on Boeing and Airbus&amp;#x27; market.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t have a dog in this fight, but I will say that Boeing isn&amp;#x27;t doing itself any favors with it&amp;#x27;s cost cutting efforts on the 737 MAX, and that if it wants to keep consumers trust in its planes over the perception of &amp;quot;inferior&amp;quot; foreign competition, it needs to work much more closely with the FAA to ensure safety is the primary motivating factor on new designs and does not get overriden by fuel efficiency.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bagacrap</author><text>On the Boeing facility:&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Work at the facility was limited to the plane’s interior, including installing seats and other cabin equipment. More responsibilities will be added over time, such as painting the exterior, but the center is primarily meant for completion and delivery, with the main manufacturing remaining in the US.&amp;quot;</text></comment>