<story><title>Mumble: Open-Source, Low Latency, High Quality Voice Chat</title><url>https://www.mumble.info/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>theelous3</author><text>Except via discord, the quality is throttled and a bunch of random decisions are made about what to do with your audio outside of the codec.&lt;p&gt;Drives me up the walls when I mention discords awful quality and people just say &amp;quot;I don&amp;#x27;t know what you&amp;#x27;re talking about they have the same codec&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s only a piece of the puzzle. Not to mention the constant robotting because some of their servers are melting or something.&lt;p&gt;Host your own voice comms :) Even the cheapest 2€ a month box can handle a decent sized party with no issues.</text></item><item><author>abhiminator</author><text>I believe Discord also uses Opus codec IIRC. But wonderful to see the codec in a &lt;i&gt;fully&lt;/i&gt; open-source project.&lt;p&gt;Added noise suppression would also be great, especially a FOSS-based one (Discord uses AI-based noise suppression from Krisp [0] -- a Berkeley, CA based for-profit startup).&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m curious if there are any FOSS community projects in this noise suppression space. Given the rapid rise in WFH culture post covid-19, I can see an explosion in demand for s&amp;#x2F;w products in this space.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;krisp.ai&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;krisp.ai&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>simondotau</author><text>While this is likely common knowledge in this community, Mumble uses the Opus codec, which is a significant factor[1] in Mumble audio being both high quality and very low latency.&lt;p&gt;Prior to Opus, Mumble used CELT.[2] This was a precursor to the Opus codec developed by Xiph.org, makers of the very well known Ogg container format and Vorbis audio codec.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.opus-codec.org&amp;#x2F;comparison&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.opus-codec.org&amp;#x2F;comparison&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;CELT&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;CELT&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>IntelMiner</author><text>Hosting a Mumble server is the easy part&lt;p&gt;Convincing everyone else involved to switch over to it however is a near-insurmountable battle.&lt;p&gt;Many years ago I was playing on a friends Minecraft server, while in a then Skype call with some friends on the server&lt;p&gt;One user couldn&amp;#x27;t get Skype to work on their Arch Linux install, and proceeded to spend almost an hour badgering us and whining to switch to Mumble so they could &amp;quot;join the fun&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;From our perspective, shifting our entire group conversation over to a brand new voice chat system just for one person seemed like an absolute joke. So they were left wanting</text></comment>
<story><title>Mumble: Open-Source, Low Latency, High Quality Voice Chat</title><url>https://www.mumble.info/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>theelous3</author><text>Except via discord, the quality is throttled and a bunch of random decisions are made about what to do with your audio outside of the codec.&lt;p&gt;Drives me up the walls when I mention discords awful quality and people just say &amp;quot;I don&amp;#x27;t know what you&amp;#x27;re talking about they have the same codec&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s only a piece of the puzzle. Not to mention the constant robotting because some of their servers are melting or something.&lt;p&gt;Host your own voice comms :) Even the cheapest 2€ a month box can handle a decent sized party with no issues.</text></item><item><author>abhiminator</author><text>I believe Discord also uses Opus codec IIRC. But wonderful to see the codec in a &lt;i&gt;fully&lt;/i&gt; open-source project.&lt;p&gt;Added noise suppression would also be great, especially a FOSS-based one (Discord uses AI-based noise suppression from Krisp [0] -- a Berkeley, CA based for-profit startup).&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m curious if there are any FOSS community projects in this noise suppression space. Given the rapid rise in WFH culture post covid-19, I can see an explosion in demand for s&amp;#x2F;w products in this space.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;krisp.ai&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;krisp.ai&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>simondotau</author><text>While this is likely common knowledge in this community, Mumble uses the Opus codec, which is a significant factor[1] in Mumble audio being both high quality and very low latency.&lt;p&gt;Prior to Opus, Mumble used CELT.[2] This was a precursor to the Opus codec developed by Xiph.org, makers of the very well known Ogg container format and Vorbis audio codec.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.opus-codec.org&amp;#x2F;comparison&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.opus-codec.org&amp;#x2F;comparison&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;CELT&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;CELT&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Macha</author><text>The issue is that Discord&amp;#x27;s audio processing is focused on mitigating the impact of the worst audio setups, not preserving the quality of the best, and I don&amp;#x27;t even think that&amp;#x27;s the wrong focus given their casual target market</text></comment>