<story><title>Intel enters the laptop discrete GPU market with Xe Max</title><url>https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/intel-enters-the-laptop-discrete-gpu-market-with-xe-max/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>DCKing</author><text>Yeah! People say AMD has the best Linux drivers, but they&amp;#x27;re wrong! Intel&amp;#x27;s are feature rich and stable, and I think they&amp;#x27;re better than AMD&amp;#x27;s [1]. They&amp;#x27;re just kind of ignored since nobody &amp;quot;chooses&amp;quot; to use an Intel GPU in their computer. You just get one bundled in your CPU, until now that is.&lt;p&gt;Intel Xe will likely be very poorly received because they&amp;#x27;ll be compared to AMD and Nvidia&amp;#x27;s best offerings and &amp;quot;Intel is failing at everything&amp;quot; is the big story now. But AMD and Nvidia are treating the low end GPU market as some sort of a backwater, and there&amp;#x27;s a proper niche for people who just want a reliable graphics card with modern video outputs and modern video codecs. If it can run desktop 3D effects smoothly on multiple high resolution screens - like a better or less expensive GT1030 and RX550 - you can be golden. Not everything GPU is about gaming or high end compute.&lt;p&gt;[1]: Okay, AMD&amp;#x27;s Linux drivers are also really good, but they can still have more hairy edge cases and lack of development than Intel&amp;#x27;s.</text></item><item><author>lliamander</author><text>Given Intel&amp;#x27;s reputation stable Linux drivers, I&amp;#x27;m excited for their discrete desktop GPUs.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>echlebek</author><text>You&amp;#x27;re absolutely correct. Especially in the low-power segment, which AMD and nvidia have really ignored lately.&lt;p&gt;If you want a &amp;lt;=75 watt GPU, which happens to be the limit for the PCIe slot without an external power connector, you have very limited options. For nVidia, the 1650 is the only modern part that will fit the bill. For AMD, you have to reach back to the RX 500 series, but good luck finding one. They&amp;#x27;re extremely uncommon even among the lower-end 500 series, as many of them require an external connector anyways.&lt;p&gt;AMD do have lower-powered &amp;quot;workstation&amp;quot; offerings, but they&amp;#x27;re so expensive that it&amp;#x27;s hard to imagine putting one in a workstation voluntarily. They&amp;#x27;re also extremely poor performers, to the extent that you might not really see much of a benefit over a Vega iGPU.&lt;p&gt;The Xe Max is only 25W TDP, which is very attractive if you&amp;#x27;re hoping to build a passively cooled Linux machine with a low-wattage power supply.</text></comment>
<story><title>Intel enters the laptop discrete GPU market with Xe Max</title><url>https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/intel-enters-the-laptop-discrete-gpu-market-with-xe-max/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>DCKing</author><text>Yeah! People say AMD has the best Linux drivers, but they&amp;#x27;re wrong! Intel&amp;#x27;s are feature rich and stable, and I think they&amp;#x27;re better than AMD&amp;#x27;s [1]. They&amp;#x27;re just kind of ignored since nobody &amp;quot;chooses&amp;quot; to use an Intel GPU in their computer. You just get one bundled in your CPU, until now that is.&lt;p&gt;Intel Xe will likely be very poorly received because they&amp;#x27;ll be compared to AMD and Nvidia&amp;#x27;s best offerings and &amp;quot;Intel is failing at everything&amp;quot; is the big story now. But AMD and Nvidia are treating the low end GPU market as some sort of a backwater, and there&amp;#x27;s a proper niche for people who just want a reliable graphics card with modern video outputs and modern video codecs. If it can run desktop 3D effects smoothly on multiple high resolution screens - like a better or less expensive GT1030 and RX550 - you can be golden. Not everything GPU is about gaming or high end compute.&lt;p&gt;[1]: Okay, AMD&amp;#x27;s Linux drivers are also really good, but they can still have more hairy edge cases and lack of development than Intel&amp;#x27;s.</text></item><item><author>lliamander</author><text>Given Intel&amp;#x27;s reputation stable Linux drivers, I&amp;#x27;m excited for their discrete desktop GPUs.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>pedrocr</author><text>But why would any of those people want this part? The only way I see it is if you want an Intel GPU for the compatibility in an otherwise AMD system. If not the Intel CPU you&amp;#x27;d build already includes a more than capable GPU this generation.</text></comment>