<story><title>Tintern &apos;secret&apos; medieval tunnel system found by accident</title><url>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56281726</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gumby</author><text>&amp;gt; There&amp;#x27;s also plenty of &amp;quot;upon the&amp;quot;s and &amp;quot;x-in-y&amp;quot; (ie: Henly-in-Arden).&lt;p&gt;These are common in many languages.&lt;p&gt;Even in England: Weston-super-Mare is just latin for &amp;quot;Weston by (literally &amp;quot;over&amp;quot;) the sea&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;And constructs like &amp;quot;Stratford-upon-Avon&amp;quot; (to disambiguate from other Stratfords) are pretty common in most places; consider &amp;quot;&lt;i&gt;Frankfurt am Main&lt;/i&gt;&amp;quot;  and &amp;quot;&lt;i&gt;Frankfurt an der Oder&lt;/i&gt;&amp;quot; all of which specify that their town is the one on &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; specific river.&lt;p&gt;Also a lot of those European place names (ignoring the prepositional affixes) are themselves compounds of other nice properties.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t know why this construct is uncommon in the USA.</text></item><item><author>dmix</author><text>You have to love the s&amp;#x2F;weird&amp;#x2F;unusual [1] names of places in the UK (and it looks like a beautiful area from the small picture):&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Tintern, in the Wye Valley, Monmouthshire&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s also plenty of &amp;quot;upon the&amp;quot;s and &amp;quot;x-in-y&amp;quot; (ie: Henly-in-Arden). Not just the England but seems just as common in Scotland, or even more common.&lt;p&gt;I can imagine the early computer systems of the postal organization having to deal with these quirks.&lt;p&gt;[1] apparently &amp;quot;weird&amp;quot; is being taken as bad or something. I like weird.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>toyg</author><text>&lt;i&gt;&amp;gt; These are common in many languages.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yup. There are plenty of them in Italy, we don&amp;#x27;t use dashes but there are various towns with generic prefixes and suffixes. Reggio Emilia and Reggio Calabria were just &amp;quot;regium&amp;quot;, Latin for &lt;i&gt;region&lt;/i&gt; or town, and at some point they gained the extra name (which refers to the wider area) to differentiate them. Near my hometown we have Casalecchio di Reno, which means &amp;quot;bunch of houses over the river Reno&amp;quot;; there are loads of river-denominated towns all over Italy. And there are loads of &amp;quot;Castello &lt;i&gt;Something&lt;/i&gt;&amp;quot;, since &lt;i&gt;castello&lt;/i&gt; means castle or castrum - as you might imagine, there are quite a few of those across the country.</text></comment>
<story><title>Tintern &apos;secret&apos; medieval tunnel system found by accident</title><url>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56281726</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gumby</author><text>&amp;gt; There&amp;#x27;s also plenty of &amp;quot;upon the&amp;quot;s and &amp;quot;x-in-y&amp;quot; (ie: Henly-in-Arden).&lt;p&gt;These are common in many languages.&lt;p&gt;Even in England: Weston-super-Mare is just latin for &amp;quot;Weston by (literally &amp;quot;over&amp;quot;) the sea&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;And constructs like &amp;quot;Stratford-upon-Avon&amp;quot; (to disambiguate from other Stratfords) are pretty common in most places; consider &amp;quot;&lt;i&gt;Frankfurt am Main&lt;/i&gt;&amp;quot;  and &amp;quot;&lt;i&gt;Frankfurt an der Oder&lt;/i&gt;&amp;quot; all of which specify that their town is the one on &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; specific river.&lt;p&gt;Also a lot of those European place names (ignoring the prepositional affixes) are themselves compounds of other nice properties.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t know why this construct is uncommon in the USA.</text></item><item><author>dmix</author><text>You have to love the s&amp;#x2F;weird&amp;#x2F;unusual [1] names of places in the UK (and it looks like a beautiful area from the small picture):&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Tintern, in the Wye Valley, Monmouthshire&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s also plenty of &amp;quot;upon the&amp;quot;s and &amp;quot;x-in-y&amp;quot; (ie: Henly-in-Arden). Not just the England but seems just as common in Scotland, or even more common.&lt;p&gt;I can imagine the early computer systems of the postal organization having to deal with these quirks.&lt;p&gt;[1] apparently &amp;quot;weird&amp;quot; is being taken as bad or something. I like weird.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bluGill</author><text>&amp;gt; I don&amp;#x27;t know why this construct is uncommon in the USA.&lt;p&gt;In the US we use a comma.  Buffalo, NY - as opposed to Buffalo in any other state. (MN, TX, and WI each have a city of buffalo - perhaps more, that is where I stopped searching).  States in the US tend to be very careful about not allowing duplication of names so this is enough for the most part.</text></comment>