<story><title>Microsoft is letting employees work from home permanently</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/9/21508964/microsoft-remote-work-from-home-covid-19-coronavirus</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ChuckNorris89</author><text>IMHO companies need to either embrace WFH fully or not at all.&lt;p&gt;This current &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;we&amp;#x27;re kinda mostly WFH but not really sometimes&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt; is the worst, as you have archaic processes still in place from pre WFH days that are still enforced, and most importantly, if management is in the office and you&amp;#x27;re not, over time, the colleagues who will be in the office will seem to get really lucky in regards to promotions and opportunities for some reason and you&amp;#x27;ll be left out because you&amp;#x27;ll miss the coffee&amp;#x2F;water cooler&amp;#x2F;cigarette chit-chat where future projects&amp;#x2F;directions are discussed casually and off the record without you.&lt;p&gt;Example: I once ran into my boss talking to a colleague at a coffee break about a potential project with a new customer and volunteered to work on it as I liked the tech. Months later, I got it. If I would have been remote that day I would have never heard about it as stuff like new projects and new customers is pretty hush-hush until the ink dries on the contract so they&amp;#x27;re never written about in public slack channels until then, but then it&amp;#x27;s usually too late to call dibs as the pieces are already in motion.&lt;p&gt;Not to mention, you can&amp;#x27;t really move far away from the office either since you could at any time be expected to show up in the office for $IMPORTANT_MEETING.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>everdrive</author><text>&amp;gt;the colleagues who will be in the office will seem to get really lucky in regards to promotions and opportunities for some reason and you&amp;#x27;ll be left out because you&amp;#x27;ll miss the coffee&amp;#x2F;water cooler&amp;#x2F;cigarette chit-chat where future projects&amp;#x2F;directions are discussed casually and off the record without you&lt;p&gt;The reality is that merit is only one of many reasons that promotions happen. And often not the primary reason.</text></comment>
<story><title>Microsoft is letting employees work from home permanently</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/9/21508964/microsoft-remote-work-from-home-covid-19-coronavirus</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ChuckNorris89</author><text>IMHO companies need to either embrace WFH fully or not at all.&lt;p&gt;This current &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;we&amp;#x27;re kinda mostly WFH but not really sometimes&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt; is the worst, as you have archaic processes still in place from pre WFH days that are still enforced, and most importantly, if management is in the office and you&amp;#x27;re not, over time, the colleagues who will be in the office will seem to get really lucky in regards to promotions and opportunities for some reason and you&amp;#x27;ll be left out because you&amp;#x27;ll miss the coffee&amp;#x2F;water cooler&amp;#x2F;cigarette chit-chat where future projects&amp;#x2F;directions are discussed casually and off the record without you.&lt;p&gt;Example: I once ran into my boss talking to a colleague at a coffee break about a potential project with a new customer and volunteered to work on it as I liked the tech. Months later, I got it. If I would have been remote that day I would have never heard about it as stuff like new projects and new customers is pretty hush-hush until the ink dries on the contract so they&amp;#x27;re never written about in public slack channels until then, but then it&amp;#x27;s usually too late to call dibs as the pieces are already in motion.&lt;p&gt;Not to mention, you can&amp;#x27;t really move far away from the office either since you could at any time be expected to show up in the office for $IMPORTANT_MEETING.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>st1x7</author><text>Yes - for someone living in a big city half office, half WFH is the worst of everything. It means that I have to maintain an expensive home office, don&amp;#x27;t get all the benefits of working in an office with other people (which I prefer) and I can&amp;#x27;t move out of the big city.</text></comment>