<story><title>Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO</title><url>https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/mozilla-news/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>fingerprinter</author><text>If he was a developer, architect or something else like that, I&amp;#x27;d generally agree.&lt;p&gt;However, he is now CEO. Imagine just how many people he&amp;#x27;d alienate inside Mozilla by basically saying &amp;quot;I don&amp;#x27;t think you should have the same rights as me&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;This is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; just another political topic, no matter how people would like to frame it that way. This is about treating people the same. You can &lt;i&gt;still think&lt;/i&gt; that homosexuality is wrong and support gay marriage. But someone who goes so far as to say no to gay marriage is basically saying they view that group of people as less than another group of people and should have less rights.&lt;p&gt;This is unacceptable.</text></item><item><author>chimeracoder</author><text>When looking to effect change, one has to build coalitions, which sometimes means picking battles.&lt;p&gt;Eich apparently does not believe that I deserve the same rights that he does, but if he is a champion of other values I hold, does that mean I should write him off entirely?&lt;p&gt;While I might prefer someone in a position like his to share all my political views, that&amp;#x27;s not really feasible. The ones that are relevant to his position as CEO of Mozilla are his views on privacy, software freedom, etc.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s especially relevant to note that this is a donation he made &amp;quot;privately&amp;quot; as an individual (it&amp;#x27;s public due to financing laws, but it&amp;#x27;s not the same as (e.g.) giving the keynote address at a NOM event.)&lt;p&gt;I happen to disagree with his views on Proposition 8, but unless they translate into discrimination in the workplace (which is an addressable problem in itself), I might be willing to support his work in one field while separating myself from his personal viewpoints in another field.</text></item><item><author>anon1385</author><text>I guess 2 years is long enough for most people to have forgotten the brief storm about his homophobic political activities. I wonder if this appointment would have been made 18 months ago when that was still fresh in people&amp;#x27;s minds. I can&amp;#x27;t help thinking that it doesn&amp;#x27;t really fit with the image Mozilla tries to present of themselves.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tommorris.org/posts/2550&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;tommorris.org&amp;#x2F;posts&amp;#x2F;2550&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>twoodfin</author><text>&lt;i&gt;This is unacceptable.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;C&amp;#x27;mon. In 2004 and 2008, with this very much a live issue, something north of 90% of American voters voted for a presidential candidate who professed to be against gay marriage. You are getting and will continue to get the social change you want, but it&amp;#x27;s crazy to ostracize someone for having the same political view as 2008 candidate Barack Obama. Try to be graceful and persuasive.</text></comment>
<story><title>Brendan Eich becomes Mozilla CEO</title><url>https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/mozilla-news/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>fingerprinter</author><text>If he was a developer, architect or something else like that, I&amp;#x27;d generally agree.&lt;p&gt;However, he is now CEO. Imagine just how many people he&amp;#x27;d alienate inside Mozilla by basically saying &amp;quot;I don&amp;#x27;t think you should have the same rights as me&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;This is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; just another political topic, no matter how people would like to frame it that way. This is about treating people the same. You can &lt;i&gt;still think&lt;/i&gt; that homosexuality is wrong and support gay marriage. But someone who goes so far as to say no to gay marriage is basically saying they view that group of people as less than another group of people and should have less rights.&lt;p&gt;This is unacceptable.</text></item><item><author>chimeracoder</author><text>When looking to effect change, one has to build coalitions, which sometimes means picking battles.&lt;p&gt;Eich apparently does not believe that I deserve the same rights that he does, but if he is a champion of other values I hold, does that mean I should write him off entirely?&lt;p&gt;While I might prefer someone in a position like his to share all my political views, that&amp;#x27;s not really feasible. The ones that are relevant to his position as CEO of Mozilla are his views on privacy, software freedom, etc.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s especially relevant to note that this is a donation he made &amp;quot;privately&amp;quot; as an individual (it&amp;#x27;s public due to financing laws, but it&amp;#x27;s not the same as (e.g.) giving the keynote address at a NOM event.)&lt;p&gt;I happen to disagree with his views on Proposition 8, but unless they translate into discrimination in the workplace (which is an addressable problem in itself), I might be willing to support his work in one field while separating myself from his personal viewpoints in another field.</text></item><item><author>anon1385</author><text>I guess 2 years is long enough for most people to have forgotten the brief storm about his homophobic political activities. I wonder if this appointment would have been made 18 months ago when that was still fresh in people&amp;#x27;s minds. I can&amp;#x27;t help thinking that it doesn&amp;#x27;t really fit with the image Mozilla tries to present of themselves.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tommorris.org/posts/2550&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;tommorris.org&amp;#x2F;posts&amp;#x2F;2550&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>yummyfajitas</author><text>&lt;i&gt;This is about treating people the same.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gays and straights are treated the same - both are free to marry people of the opposite sex. Gays may prefer not to do that, but they do have the legal right.&lt;p&gt;As for finding your preferences are not legally favored, that happens to lots of people. I prefer to have no fixed address, which is NOT a legally favorable preference to have (try opening a bank account, etc). I prefer not to buy insurance covering procedures I will never need [1].&lt;p&gt;Are laws preventing me from satisfying my preferences on these matters all unacceptable? If Eich favored Obamacare or &amp;quot;Know Your Customer&amp;quot; banking laws, would that also be unacceptable?&lt;p&gt;[1] Supposing that I lived in the US.</text></comment>