<story><title>Chinese government is working on a timetable to end sales of fossil-fuel cars</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-09/china-to-ban-sale-of-fossil-fuel-cars-in-electric-vehicle-push</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>brownbat</author><text>EVs in China produce two to five times the amount of smog as gas vehicles, because the supporting energy mix is so dirty.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.scientificamerican.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;in-coal-powered-china-electric-car-surge-fuels-fear-of-worsening-smog&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.scientificamerican.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;in-coal-powered-c...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Should be good long term, if China realizes other energy sourcing goals, just... EVs alone don&amp;#x27;t fix everything.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ecpottinger</author><text>Yet somehow this study leaves out how much China is adding solar and wind energy to it&amp;#x27;s supply.&lt;p&gt;Infact China is closing down it&amp;#x27;s worse coal plants.&lt;p&gt;See: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Solar_power_in_China&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Solar_power_in_China&lt;/a&gt;
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<story><title>Chinese government is working on a timetable to end sales of fossil-fuel cars</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-09/china-to-ban-sale-of-fossil-fuel-cars-in-electric-vehicle-push</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>brownbat</author><text>EVs in China produce two to five times the amount of smog as gas vehicles, because the supporting energy mix is so dirty.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.scientificamerican.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;in-coal-powered-china-electric-car-surge-fuels-fear-of-worsening-smog&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.scientificamerican.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;in-coal-powered-c...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Should be good long term, if China realizes other energy sourcing goals, just... EVs alone don&amp;#x27;t fix everything.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>melling</author><text>China has 20 nuclear plants under construction:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.scmp.com&amp;#x2F;business&amp;#x2F;companies&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;2107354&amp;#x2F;china-pips-us-race-start-worlds-most-advanced-nuclear-power-plant&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.scmp.com&amp;#x2F;business&amp;#x2F;companies&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;2107354&amp;#x2F;china...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;The new AP1000s are almost done. Hopefully they get the costs under control so they can build 100 of them.
Bill Gates’ Terrapower is developing the next gen plants in China:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.forbes.com&amp;#x2F;sites&amp;#x2F;jamesconca&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;02&amp;#x2F;bill-gates-forges-nuclear-deal-with-china&amp;#x2F;#ce496042c129&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.forbes.com&amp;#x2F;sites&amp;#x2F;jamesconca&amp;#x2F;2015&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;02&amp;#x2F;bill-gate...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>