<story><title>WhatsApp lead and other tech experts fire back at Apple’s Child Safety plan</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/6/22613365/apple-icloud-csam-scanning-whatsapp-surveillance-reactions</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>hughrr</author><text>It’s too late either way. The fact that it even got this far through implementation says the vendor is not on my side. Not only that once capability is revealed it can be required by governments and manipulated under warrant. Particularly in some regimes, mine included, the vendor can be compelled to do something and not say anything. My comment doesn’t even cover how monumentally flawed the entire thing is either.&lt;p&gt;So I’ve been on the verge of doing this for years so this was the final push and motivation.&lt;p&gt;Yesterday I sold my iPad and Apple Watch. They are being shipped today. I’m just waiting on refunds on my AppleCare for my MacBook and iPhone now and I will sell them.&lt;p&gt;Yesterday I had a Nokia 215 arrive as a replacement phone. Also a monster pile of PC bits arrived which have been assembled into a Ubuntu running desktop. I am spending today migrating my data over carefully. When the MacBook sells I will buy a Nikon DSLR.&lt;p&gt;At the end of this I lose perhaps 20% convenience for an immeasurable privacy gain, lose a big chunk of the distractions from my life and end up with some cash left over which I will use to go on holiday.&lt;p&gt;The only thing I will miss is Apple Music but it’ll give me a chance to curate my music collection without distraction again.</text></item><item><author>zpeti</author><text>I really hope there is enough momentum to stop this. It&amp;#x27;s definitely the last straw for me in terms of apple products. I haven&amp;#x27;t bought a new iphone for 4 years, I&amp;#x27;m slowly trying to switch to a lightphone (non smartphone). My mac needs a change but I will probably switch to linux.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s absolutely ridiculous what apple has become. The exact opposite of what they used to represent, when I loved them. God rest Steve Jobs soul, his 1984 ad is exactly what apple is now. Screwed devs on app store, strongarmed into compliance, cooperation with china, worse and worse UX on phones, and now this...&lt;p&gt;Really disappointing.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>f3d46600-b66e</author><text>How does Nokia 215 solve the problem? All messages, including any images, wi now go through the carrier&amp;#x27;s network (and the recipient&amp;#x27;s carrier) and be subject to intercept, analysis, and sale by those two entities.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not sure how is that better?&lt;p&gt;Wouldn&amp;#x27;t AOSP&amp;#x2F;Lineage with Signal installed be better?</text></comment>
<story><title>WhatsApp lead and other tech experts fire back at Apple’s Child Safety plan</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/6/22613365/apple-icloud-csam-scanning-whatsapp-surveillance-reactions</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>hughrr</author><text>It’s too late either way. The fact that it even got this far through implementation says the vendor is not on my side. Not only that once capability is revealed it can be required by governments and manipulated under warrant. Particularly in some regimes, mine included, the vendor can be compelled to do something and not say anything. My comment doesn’t even cover how monumentally flawed the entire thing is either.&lt;p&gt;So I’ve been on the verge of doing this for years so this was the final push and motivation.&lt;p&gt;Yesterday I sold my iPad and Apple Watch. They are being shipped today. I’m just waiting on refunds on my AppleCare for my MacBook and iPhone now and I will sell them.&lt;p&gt;Yesterday I had a Nokia 215 arrive as a replacement phone. Also a monster pile of PC bits arrived which have been assembled into a Ubuntu running desktop. I am spending today migrating my data over carefully. When the MacBook sells I will buy a Nikon DSLR.&lt;p&gt;At the end of this I lose perhaps 20% convenience for an immeasurable privacy gain, lose a big chunk of the distractions from my life and end up with some cash left over which I will use to go on holiday.&lt;p&gt;The only thing I will miss is Apple Music but it’ll give me a chance to curate my music collection without distraction again.</text></item><item><author>zpeti</author><text>I really hope there is enough momentum to stop this. It&amp;#x27;s definitely the last straw for me in terms of apple products. I haven&amp;#x27;t bought a new iphone for 4 years, I&amp;#x27;m slowly trying to switch to a lightphone (non smartphone). My mac needs a change but I will probably switch to linux.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s absolutely ridiculous what apple has become. The exact opposite of what they used to represent, when I loved them. God rest Steve Jobs soul, his 1984 ad is exactly what apple is now. Screwed devs on app store, strongarmed into compliance, cooperation with china, worse and worse UX on phones, and now this...&lt;p&gt;Really disappointing.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>vel0city</author><text>Before buying the DSLR, I&amp;#x27;d recommend at least checking out the 1&amp;quot; sensor size market. These cameras still take excellent quality photos in a wide range of lighting conditions but are so much more compact than having an interchangeable lens system.&lt;p&gt;I sold my DSLR a couple of years after getting my G9x Mark II. The DSLR was always gathering dust compared to the G9x which with a small belt case could easily be taken anywhere.&lt;p&gt;That said these cameras are definitely not as flexible as a full SLR nor will you get the same performance. Its a large sensor when compared to a camera or other point and shoots but its still nothing compared to APS-C.</text></comment>