<story><title>Google Stops Forcing You to Join Google+ When Opening a New Account</title><url>http://seb.st/google-stops-forcing-you-to-join-google-when-opening-a-new-account/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>aikah</author><text>G+ is a failure,let&amp;#x27;s be clear about that.&lt;p&gt;You cant force people into a social network.Sure You can merge different services under a single &amp;quot;login&amp;quot; system,but dont make it a social network where things are published on a public profile,that&amp;#x27;s insane.&lt;p&gt;People dont need 10 social networks...doesnt mean there is no room for competition,just that G+ didnt innovate,or try to have a fresh take on social networks.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>davidgerard</author><text>&amp;gt; G+ is a failure,let&amp;#x27;s be clear about that.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m one of the few people who actually uses G+ by choice, and has done since public launch. But I&amp;#x27;m not delusional about its glaring failure.&lt;p&gt;You try saying &amp;quot;G+ is a failure&amp;quot; on G+ and see the hilarity that ensues as people say &amp;quot;MINE is great&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;You&amp;#x27;re not using it right&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Your link doesn&amp;#x27;t talk about metrics in [unspecified niche] where I assure you it&amp;#x27;s TOTALLY popular&amp;quot; and literally call you a Facebook shill. Good Lord.&lt;p&gt;I mean, I stick around for the few people and one community that isn&amp;#x27;t on Facebook. But G+ is a huge planned subdivision built in a desert, all the roads built but no houses, with a few people camped out around a fire going &amp;quot;WELL THERE&amp;#x27;S LOTS OF PEOPLE AROUND THIS FIRE.&amp;quot;</text></comment>
<story><title>Google Stops Forcing You to Join Google+ When Opening a New Account</title><url>http://seb.st/google-stops-forcing-you-to-join-google-when-opening-a-new-account/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>aikah</author><text>G+ is a failure,let&amp;#x27;s be clear about that.&lt;p&gt;You cant force people into a social network.Sure You can merge different services under a single &amp;quot;login&amp;quot; system,but dont make it a social network where things are published on a public profile,that&amp;#x27;s insane.&lt;p&gt;People dont need 10 social networks...doesnt mean there is no room for competition,just that G+ didnt innovate,or try to have a fresh take on social networks.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>vertex-four</author><text>&amp;gt; Sure You can merge different services under a single &amp;quot;login&amp;quot; system&lt;p&gt;The thing is, Google &lt;i&gt;already&lt;/i&gt; had that. I have a pre-Google+ account that I&amp;#x27;ve never upgraded, and I&amp;#x27;ve always been able to log into everything (aside from Google+ itself) just fine.</text></comment>