<story><title>San Francisco police can now watch private surveillance cameras in real time</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/23/23368603/san-francisco-police-private-surveillance-cameras-vote</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>slg</author><text>&amp;gt;When you arrest the same person over and over again and they are just let out by the DA, you may just not arrest that person again.&lt;p&gt;Great, so everyone agrees the current approach doesn&amp;#x27;t work.  Now we need to come up with a better solution.&lt;p&gt;Option 1 is to throw these repeat offenders in jail and consider the situation fixed.&lt;p&gt;Option 2 is to take the money that we are paying the cop that now refuses to arrest anyone and instead pay someone who is willing to work with this repeat offender and help get them a home, job, treatment, or whatever else they need to stop living life like this.</text></item><item><author>hunterb123</author><text>Neat analogy, but you didn&amp;#x27;t finish it. It would be like if the garbage men took the trash out and at the end of the month and the person in charge of the dump released it all back out on the streets. Certainly you would have a garbage strike, which is what happened, and the dump manager (DA) was recalled.&lt;p&gt;When you arrest the same person over and over again and they are just let out by the DA, you may just not arrest that person again.&lt;p&gt;You aren&amp;#x27;t refusing to do your job, you&amp;#x27;re listening to an elected official that has more power than you do.&lt;p&gt;Do you have any criticisms to direct at the DA, or do you agree with their actions?</text></item><item><author>AlexandrB</author><text>Garbage men pick up the trash every week. Yet, every week there&amp;#x27;s more trash. I fix bugs even though more bugs will inevitably be found.&lt;p&gt;If what you say is true, what police officers are refusing to do is their job. And it&amp;#x27;s not that different than many other jobs out there. They&amp;#x27;re not elected officials, it&amp;#x27;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; their job to legislate or choose who to prosecute.</text></item><item><author>tomschlick</author><text>&amp;gt; Now the police can watch in real time from afar, so they aren&amp;#x27;t at risk of spilling their donuts and coffee in the car while watching close by as residents packages are stolen, car windows broken, and petty theft runs rampant through no enforcement of the law.&lt;p&gt;This is a direct result of the politicians that the residents elected. When you have a DA that doesn&amp;#x27;t prosecute offenders and releases them after police go through the work of arresting, gathering evidence, writing reports, booking, etc over and over again you&amp;#x27;ll start to get police that wont do those things because its simply a waste of their time.</text></item><item><author>tristor</author><text>This is fantastic news for the residents of San Francisco.  Now the police can watch in real time from afar, so they aren&amp;#x27;t at risk of spilling their donuts and coffee in the car while watching close by as residents packages are stolen, car windows broken, and petty theft runs rampant through no enforcement of the law.&lt;p&gt;We should all be proud of what technology has achieved for society, further reducing the risk of being a police officer.  What great benefit to the residents of San Francisco.  Many more officers will make it to retirement age to make use of their oversized pensions since they won&amp;#x27;t even need to worry about possibly being cajoled into action and having to foot chase a thief when they can simply watch crime occur unabated from the comfort of their offices and homes.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tgsovlerkhgsel</author><text>The problem is that lack of enforcement leads to criminals that act not out of desperation, but because they analyzed the rules of the game and realized that the reward for a criminal career is better than the reward for a legitimate career, with few downsides.&lt;p&gt;Why work 20 days a month and make a modest living when you can steal and rob 3 days a month, fence on the 4th, and live in relative luxury?&lt;p&gt;Throwing people in jail doesn&amp;#x27;t help with crimes of despair, but it does help with such calculated crime, because it suddenly is no longer worth it.</text></comment>
<story><title>San Francisco police can now watch private surveillance cameras in real time</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/23/23368603/san-francisco-police-private-surveillance-cameras-vote</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>slg</author><text>&amp;gt;When you arrest the same person over and over again and they are just let out by the DA, you may just not arrest that person again.&lt;p&gt;Great, so everyone agrees the current approach doesn&amp;#x27;t work.  Now we need to come up with a better solution.&lt;p&gt;Option 1 is to throw these repeat offenders in jail and consider the situation fixed.&lt;p&gt;Option 2 is to take the money that we are paying the cop that now refuses to arrest anyone and instead pay someone who is willing to work with this repeat offender and help get them a home, job, treatment, or whatever else they need to stop living life like this.</text></item><item><author>hunterb123</author><text>Neat analogy, but you didn&amp;#x27;t finish it. It would be like if the garbage men took the trash out and at the end of the month and the person in charge of the dump released it all back out on the streets. Certainly you would have a garbage strike, which is what happened, and the dump manager (DA) was recalled.&lt;p&gt;When you arrest the same person over and over again and they are just let out by the DA, you may just not arrest that person again.&lt;p&gt;You aren&amp;#x27;t refusing to do your job, you&amp;#x27;re listening to an elected official that has more power than you do.&lt;p&gt;Do you have any criticisms to direct at the DA, or do you agree with their actions?</text></item><item><author>AlexandrB</author><text>Garbage men pick up the trash every week. Yet, every week there&amp;#x27;s more trash. I fix bugs even though more bugs will inevitably be found.&lt;p&gt;If what you say is true, what police officers are refusing to do is their job. And it&amp;#x27;s not that different than many other jobs out there. They&amp;#x27;re not elected officials, it&amp;#x27;s &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; their job to legislate or choose who to prosecute.</text></item><item><author>tomschlick</author><text>&amp;gt; Now the police can watch in real time from afar, so they aren&amp;#x27;t at risk of spilling their donuts and coffee in the car while watching close by as residents packages are stolen, car windows broken, and petty theft runs rampant through no enforcement of the law.&lt;p&gt;This is a direct result of the politicians that the residents elected. When you have a DA that doesn&amp;#x27;t prosecute offenders and releases them after police go through the work of arresting, gathering evidence, writing reports, booking, etc over and over again you&amp;#x27;ll start to get police that wont do those things because its simply a waste of their time.</text></item><item><author>tristor</author><text>This is fantastic news for the residents of San Francisco.  Now the police can watch in real time from afar, so they aren&amp;#x27;t at risk of spilling their donuts and coffee in the car while watching close by as residents packages are stolen, car windows broken, and petty theft runs rampant through no enforcement of the law.&lt;p&gt;We should all be proud of what technology has achieved for society, further reducing the risk of being a police officer.  What great benefit to the residents of San Francisco.  Many more officers will make it to retirement age to make use of their oversized pensions since they won&amp;#x27;t even need to worry about possibly being cajoled into action and having to foot chase a thief when they can simply watch crime occur unabated from the comfort of their offices and homes.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bakugo</author><text>Ah yes, the classic &amp;quot;all criminals are just misunderstood and will stop committing crime if you give them money&amp;quot; argument.</text></comment>