<story><title>ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard</title><url>https://www.zsa.io/voyager/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>egypturnash</author><text>This is lovely and kind of tempting but, like every keyboard-nerd keyboard, it&amp;#x27;s made by and for someone who wants the smallest possible number of keys in front of them and a bunch of toggleable modes.&lt;p&gt;I want &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; keys. I want my dedicated f-keys back so that when I launch an action in Illustrator I don&amp;#x27;t have to hold down the fn key, along with whatever other modifier key I may be using to distinguish between a couple other action assigned to that key. I have turned my capslock into command-alt-shift and that helps a lot, I want additional meta keys that I can use for command-shift and command-alt while still having the existing meta keys, not less - this has nine unmarked keys in the default layout, and two of those are probably slated for becoming space and return; my Mac has &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; the same number of meta keys if I count capslock, &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; dedicated space&amp;#x2F;return buttons.&lt;p&gt;Their Moonlander&amp;#x27;s much more sensible, with a baker&amp;#x27;s dozen of meta keys around each half&amp;#x27;s keyboard block. Hitting a little one-handed chord almost seems reasonable, compared to all the one-handed stretches I&amp;#x27;ve got in my daily art routine. I&amp;#x27;d be super-tempted by this or an Ergodox EZ if they were putting them on sale because they are no longer the new hotness, they might actually see integration into my workflow, but there&amp;#x27;s absolutely no price difference.&lt;p&gt;Maybe I&amp;#x27;ll just get baked and spend an hour futzing with this idea I just had to make the f-keys of my Mac&amp;#x27;s keyboard accessible by having Karabiner translate a chord of (fkey)+(the key to its left) into (fkey). I already have the baked part. And that works on my existing laptop keyboard as well as the 90%-identical Apple wireless board on my desk...&lt;p&gt;EDIT:&lt;p&gt;I did indeed spend an hour swearing at Karabiner&amp;#x27;s config file and make f(n)+f(-1) into f(n) and it is &lt;i&gt;wonderful&lt;/i&gt;, and I am going to make a fn+f(n)=(nothing) rule to train myself to use it. Thanks for the inspiration, keyboard with too few bucky bits!</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rince</author><text>The [Kinesis Freestyle Edge](&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;gaming.kinesis-ergo.com&amp;#x2F;edge&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;gaming.kinesis-ergo.com&amp;#x2F;edge&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;) is what you want. It&amp;#x27;s a full keyboard, with extra keys you can map, and you can choose what switch you want. It&amp;#x27;s marketed for gamers, but it&amp;#x27;s good for everyone.&lt;p&gt;My one complaint is I find the space bar too large. I started used the Freestyle after decades of MS Natural keyboards. It took a while to get used to the size of the space bar.</text></comment>
<story><title>ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard</title><url>https://www.zsa.io/voyager/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>egypturnash</author><text>This is lovely and kind of tempting but, like every keyboard-nerd keyboard, it&amp;#x27;s made by and for someone who wants the smallest possible number of keys in front of them and a bunch of toggleable modes.&lt;p&gt;I want &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; keys. I want my dedicated f-keys back so that when I launch an action in Illustrator I don&amp;#x27;t have to hold down the fn key, along with whatever other modifier key I may be using to distinguish between a couple other action assigned to that key. I have turned my capslock into command-alt-shift and that helps a lot, I want additional meta keys that I can use for command-shift and command-alt while still having the existing meta keys, not less - this has nine unmarked keys in the default layout, and two of those are probably slated for becoming space and return; my Mac has &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; the same number of meta keys if I count capslock, &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; dedicated space&amp;#x2F;return buttons.&lt;p&gt;Their Moonlander&amp;#x27;s much more sensible, with a baker&amp;#x27;s dozen of meta keys around each half&amp;#x27;s keyboard block. Hitting a little one-handed chord almost seems reasonable, compared to all the one-handed stretches I&amp;#x27;ve got in my daily art routine. I&amp;#x27;d be super-tempted by this or an Ergodox EZ if they were putting them on sale because they are no longer the new hotness, they might actually see integration into my workflow, but there&amp;#x27;s absolutely no price difference.&lt;p&gt;Maybe I&amp;#x27;ll just get baked and spend an hour futzing with this idea I just had to make the f-keys of my Mac&amp;#x27;s keyboard accessible by having Karabiner translate a chord of (fkey)+(the key to its left) into (fkey). I already have the baked part. And that works on my existing laptop keyboard as well as the 90%-identical Apple wireless board on my desk...&lt;p&gt;EDIT:&lt;p&gt;I did indeed spend an hour swearing at Karabiner&amp;#x27;s config file and make f(n)+f(-1) into f(n) and it is &lt;i&gt;wonderful&lt;/i&gt;, and I am going to make a fn+f(n)=(nothing) rule to train myself to use it. Thanks for the inspiration, keyboard with too few bucky bits!</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>RobertRoberts</author><text>&amp;gt; I want &lt;i&gt;more keys&lt;/i&gt;. I want my dedicated f-keys back...&lt;p&gt;This is my issue as well. I want a &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; keyboard, only ergonomic, split, with all the fancy joint happiness that brings.&lt;p&gt;It seems these are impossible to find without some kind of 3d printing and DIY from scratch.&lt;p&gt;I am not able to invest in learning a new keyboarding process because I have to work on too many different computers over a year span that I have no control over, and I don&amp;#x27;t want my muscle memory to erode because of one special keyboard on my home workstation.</text></comment>