<story><title>Apple&apos;s iPhone Shipments Plunge in China as Huawei Tightens Grip</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-11/apple-s-iphone-shipments-plunge-in-china-as-huawei-tightens-grip</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>free652</author><text>For some reason I doubt that you have the right perspective. Chinese are very nationalistic and every non immigrant Chinese I met is pro Chinese government. Netcitizens are even worse.&lt;p&gt;American are persecuting a company that disobeyed American laws on American soil. No a single Chinese would blink an eye about persecuting American companies in China.&lt;p&gt;China is having economic issues, that&amp;#x27;s the major reason in sales&amp;#x27; dip.</text></item><item><author>yonkshi</author><text>Currently visiting China for Chinese New Year, and can&amp;#x27;t help but to notice the anti-US anti-Apple sentiment that arose recently. Although anecdotal, I think the nationalistic sentiment has a lot to do with the dip in sales.&lt;p&gt;To put in perspective, most Chinese netizens are generally pretty critical of the Chinese gov. Chinese with higher educations usually look up to western culture and products. However after the Huawei arrest incident, the Chinese netizens were &lt;i&gt;pissed&lt;/i&gt; at the American government, I&amp;#x27;ve never seen such anger towards the US gov, and huge waves of boycotts began. They think that American gov is bullying a Chinese company into obeying US law even outside US, and their response is to boycott American products.&lt;p&gt;During my two weeks here I&amp;#x27;ve talked to a dozen random people at bars, friends gatherings and on the plane. Normally US-China politics never come up, but it has come up in almost every single conversation this trip. Most of these people mention that they recent switched to a Chinese phone or their next phone will be a domestic phone.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ardy42</author><text>&amp;gt; American are persecuting a company that disobeyed American laws on American soil. No a single Chinese would blink an eye about persecuting American companies in China.&lt;p&gt;Hypocrites exist.  The Chinese government was shamelessly hypocritical over the Meng arrest, complaining that it  violated her &amp;quot;human rights,&amp;quot; [1] while their utter indifference to them has yet again been made clear by the camps in Xinjiang.  I doubt everyday nationalistic citizens would be any more thoughtful.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.bbc.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;business-46465768&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.bbc.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;business-46465768&lt;/a&gt;: &amp;quot;A Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson told reporters: &amp;#x27;The detention without giving any reason violates a person&amp;#x27;s human rights.&amp;#x27; ... Beijing has itself frequently been accused by rights groups of rights abuses including unexplained detentions&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; China is having economic issues, that&amp;#x27;s the major reason in sales&amp;#x27; dip.&lt;p&gt;Nationalistic ferver drummed up by the Huawei arrest could compound the sales drop.</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple&apos;s iPhone Shipments Plunge in China as Huawei Tightens Grip</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-11/apple-s-iphone-shipments-plunge-in-china-as-huawei-tightens-grip</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>free652</author><text>For some reason I doubt that you have the right perspective. Chinese are very nationalistic and every non immigrant Chinese I met is pro Chinese government. Netcitizens are even worse.&lt;p&gt;American are persecuting a company that disobeyed American laws on American soil. No a single Chinese would blink an eye about persecuting American companies in China.&lt;p&gt;China is having economic issues, that&amp;#x27;s the major reason in sales&amp;#x27; dip.</text></item><item><author>yonkshi</author><text>Currently visiting China for Chinese New Year, and can&amp;#x27;t help but to notice the anti-US anti-Apple sentiment that arose recently. Although anecdotal, I think the nationalistic sentiment has a lot to do with the dip in sales.&lt;p&gt;To put in perspective, most Chinese netizens are generally pretty critical of the Chinese gov. Chinese with higher educations usually look up to western culture and products. However after the Huawei arrest incident, the Chinese netizens were &lt;i&gt;pissed&lt;/i&gt; at the American government, I&amp;#x27;ve never seen such anger towards the US gov, and huge waves of boycotts began. They think that American gov is bullying a Chinese company into obeying US law even outside US, and their response is to boycott American products.&lt;p&gt;During my two weeks here I&amp;#x27;ve talked to a dozen random people at bars, friends gatherings and on the plane. Normally US-China politics never come up, but it has come up in almost every single conversation this trip. Most of these people mention that they recent switched to a Chinese phone or their next phone will be a domestic phone.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ksec</author><text>The boycott of American products is very real. What we do not know is how large the impact really are. For example Hermes posted a record quarter in China again, doesn&amp;#x27;t seems to be hurt by whatever downturn there is in China.</text></comment>