<story><title>Fuchsia: a new operating system</title><url>https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/718267/206c8a5fbf0ee2ea/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Touche</author><text>&amp;gt; If they are not, then we are all doomed to continue to exist in a messy world where security problems crop up every minute.&lt;p&gt;Side-tangent, but security enthusiasts need to calm down on the &amp;quot;world is ending&amp;quot; talk. Those of us who lived through Windows ME, where logging on IRC basically gave you a 25% chance of having your computer hijacked by some random script kiddie, think it&amp;#x27;s laughable to say that security is anywhere &lt;i&gt;near&lt;/i&gt; as bad as it used to be. Night and day.</text></item><item><author>VonGuard</author><text>Capability-based operating systems must be the future. If they are not, then we are all doomed to continue to exist in a messy world where security problems crop up every minute. Capability-based access controls are one of the best options for getting out of our current mess, but they&amp;#x27;re also the type of thing that must be implemented very low in the system in order to work.&lt;p&gt;Hopefully, when we start ripping out *nix before 2038, Fuscia and other capability-based OS&amp;#x27;s can take over.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>naasking</author><text>&amp;gt; Those of us who lived through Windows ME, where logging on IRC basically gave you a 25% chance of having your computer hijacked by some random script kiddie, think it&amp;#x27;s laughable to say that security is anywhere near as bad as it used to be. Night and day.&lt;p&gt;Those were people just messing around. Annoying and harmful to your local machine certainly, but the harm that was caused was localized.&lt;p&gt;Security vulnerabilities are now industrialized, with large-scale public attacks and widespread silent compromises used to gather and sell your information for profit. The situation is still bad, it&amp;#x27;s just bad in a different way.</text></comment>
<story><title>Fuchsia: a new operating system</title><url>https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/718267/206c8a5fbf0ee2ea/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Touche</author><text>&amp;gt; If they are not, then we are all doomed to continue to exist in a messy world where security problems crop up every minute.&lt;p&gt;Side-tangent, but security enthusiasts need to calm down on the &amp;quot;world is ending&amp;quot; talk. Those of us who lived through Windows ME, where logging on IRC basically gave you a 25% chance of having your computer hijacked by some random script kiddie, think it&amp;#x27;s laughable to say that security is anywhere &lt;i&gt;near&lt;/i&gt; as bad as it used to be. Night and day.</text></item><item><author>VonGuard</author><text>Capability-based operating systems must be the future. If they are not, then we are all doomed to continue to exist in a messy world where security problems crop up every minute. Capability-based access controls are one of the best options for getting out of our current mess, but they&amp;#x27;re also the type of thing that must be implemented very low in the system in order to work.&lt;p&gt;Hopefully, when we start ripping out *nix before 2038, Fuscia and other capability-based OS&amp;#x27;s can take over.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tapoxi</author><text>But there are significantly more devices out there these days, that we don&amp;#x27;t traditionally think of as &amp;quot;computers&amp;quot;. Cable boxes&amp;#x2F;DVRs, webcams, vacuum cleaners, mobile phones, routers, hell a directory traversal bug was found in a dishwasher.&lt;p&gt;Many of these devices aren&amp;#x27;t patched after they&amp;#x27;re sold, and can be compromised within minutes of being assigned a publicly routable IP - this is what happened with Mirai.&lt;p&gt;Security is better for desktop computers, but if you include everything with an operating system, it&amp;#x27;s much, much worse.</text></comment>