<story><title>Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other blockers for Safari</title><url>https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>magashna</author><text>There seems to be this idea that some sites work worse with FF but in all the time Chrome has existed, I&amp;#x27;ve never found any sites that didn&amp;#x27;t work with FF.</text></item><item><author>mumblemumble</author><text>This was true during an intermediate period where all browsers were more-or-less equivalent. It wasn&amp;#x27;t true before then, when many sites were designed with Internet Explorer in mind, and tended to work less well on other browsers. I don&amp;#x27;t think it will be true now, either, now that most sites are designed with Chrome in mind, and tend to work less well on other browsers.&lt;p&gt;The big difference is that the functionality problems 20 years ago were easier to explain, and therefore easier to get people upset about. It&amp;#x27;s a lot easier to weave a compelling political story about straight-up incompatibility than it is to weave one about degraded performance due to differing just-in-time compiler optimization behavior.&lt;p&gt;Also, we seem to be stuck in a situation where people are still so fixated on a monarch that hasn&amp;#x27;t been in power for over a decade that they maybe haven&amp;#x27;t been so concerned that the old monarch&amp;#x27;s overthrower has consolidated power to become a new monarch.</text></item><item><author>kache_</author><text>The day ublock origin doesn&amp;#x27;t work on chrome is the day users will flock to firefox. We have seen time and time again that users aren&amp;#x27;t afraid of switching browsers. This is because since their core functionality is so similar, small advantages will tip the scales.</text></item><item><author>lmedinas</author><text>Well i have no complains about Safari but their Extension system is really costing them users. At this point I uBlock Origin is by far the most reliable AdBlocker you can find and my having the developers explaining that in the future maybe only Firefox will support it it&amp;#x27;s kinda of sad.&lt;p&gt;Of course we know that Google has to make money from Ads so its understandable but what about Apple ? They are putting heavy focus in privacy, would it be good if they open their browser to make sure their users will not move to Chrome&amp;#x2F;Firefox or other browser ?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mumblemumble</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve never found any that don&amp;#x27;t work, but Firefox supports fewer &amp;quot;standards&amp;quot;, so you can end up with a somewhat degraded experience on some sites. My own company&amp;#x27;s product, for example, has some janky bits on browsers other than Chrome. The performance is only a little bit behind on most benchmarks, but isn&amp;#x27;t anywhere near as fast for certain kinds of animation. It can be noticeable on sites that run a lot of animation. Like, say, sites with ads. Possibly only if you&amp;#x27;re using an older or less powerful computer. Which isn&amp;#x27;t how we of the orange header bar like to roll, but also isn&amp;#x27;t a terribly uncommon thing to do out there in the wider world.&lt;p&gt;(Scare quotes around &amp;quot;standards&amp;quot; because calling Chrome-only things standard nowadays seems a bit like calling AcitveX a standard 20 years ago.)</text></comment>
<story><title>Explanation of the state of uBlock Origin and other blockers for Safari</title><url>https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>magashna</author><text>There seems to be this idea that some sites work worse with FF but in all the time Chrome has existed, I&amp;#x27;ve never found any sites that didn&amp;#x27;t work with FF.</text></item><item><author>mumblemumble</author><text>This was true during an intermediate period where all browsers were more-or-less equivalent. It wasn&amp;#x27;t true before then, when many sites were designed with Internet Explorer in mind, and tended to work less well on other browsers. I don&amp;#x27;t think it will be true now, either, now that most sites are designed with Chrome in mind, and tend to work less well on other browsers.&lt;p&gt;The big difference is that the functionality problems 20 years ago were easier to explain, and therefore easier to get people upset about. It&amp;#x27;s a lot easier to weave a compelling political story about straight-up incompatibility than it is to weave one about degraded performance due to differing just-in-time compiler optimization behavior.&lt;p&gt;Also, we seem to be stuck in a situation where people are still so fixated on a monarch that hasn&amp;#x27;t been in power for over a decade that they maybe haven&amp;#x27;t been so concerned that the old monarch&amp;#x27;s overthrower has consolidated power to become a new monarch.</text></item><item><author>kache_</author><text>The day ublock origin doesn&amp;#x27;t work on chrome is the day users will flock to firefox. We have seen time and time again that users aren&amp;#x27;t afraid of switching browsers. This is because since their core functionality is so similar, small advantages will tip the scales.</text></item><item><author>lmedinas</author><text>Well i have no complains about Safari but their Extension system is really costing them users. At this point I uBlock Origin is by far the most reliable AdBlocker you can find and my having the developers explaining that in the future maybe only Firefox will support it it&amp;#x27;s kinda of sad.&lt;p&gt;Of course we know that Google has to make money from Ads so its understandable but what about Apple ? They are putting heavy focus in privacy, would it be good if they open their browser to make sure their users will not move to Chrome&amp;#x2F;Firefox or other browser ?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>phinnaeus</author><text>I use Chrome almost exclusively at work, Firefox on my gaming computer, and Safari on my personal MacBook. Other than extensions on Safari and minor differences in keyboard shortcuts, I don&amp;#x27;t really notice the differences.</text></comment>