<story><title>Ford’s electric pickup can power a house for days</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-31/how-the-ford-f-150-can-be-a-backup-home-generator</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>vlovich123</author><text>10 Powerwalls: 1.27 Wh&amp;#x2F;$
1 40k truck: 3.5 Wh&amp;#x2F;$
1 72.5k truck: 1.8 Wh&amp;#x2F;$&lt;p&gt;I think you&amp;#x27;re better off getting the 40k truck. I have no idea how Ford is getting batteries for so much cheaper for the 40k truck.</text></item><item><author>slg</author><text>&amp;gt;Surprised there’s no discussion on the price delta here - I could buy 10x power-walls for $110k, or 1x E F150 for $40k and get a free truck thrown in.&lt;p&gt;The reason there is no discussion of price delta is at least partially because the price of the truck discussed in the article is not the $40k variant. 10 Powerwalls would be 140 kWh of battery while the $40k F-150 Lightning would be 98 kWh.  The one mentioned in the article with the 131 kWh battery is nearly double the price starting at $72.5k.  That still might make the F-150 the better solution, but accuracy is important.</text></item><item><author>ag56</author><text>Surprised there’s no discussion on the price delta here - I could buy 10x power-walls for $110k, or 1x E F150 for $40k and get a free truck thrown in.&lt;p&gt;As someone with a large house who just investigated a hybrid power walls + gas generator + solar backup solution and didn’t go through with it due to cost, this is huge. I am literally considering buying an F150 to just keep parked stationary behind my garage.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>slg</author><text>Your general question is fair, but your math is wrong which exaggerates the difference.&lt;p&gt;10 Powerwalls: 140 kWh &amp;#x2F; $110k = 1.27 Wh&amp;#x2F;$ 1&lt;p&gt;40k truck: 98 kWh &amp;#x2F; $40k =  2.45 Wh&amp;#x2F;$&lt;p&gt;72.5k truck:  131 kWh &amp;#x2F; $72.5k = 1.81 Wh&amp;#x2F;$&lt;p&gt;That said, I would speculate the that base model is effectively being subsidized                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               by the marketing team.  Saying it &amp;quot;starts at under $40k&amp;quot; sounds a lot better than &amp;quot;starts at under $73k&amp;quot;.  Ford simply won&amp;#x27;t produce that model in high quantities and they also know people generally won&amp;#x27;t be buying the base model anyway.</text></comment>
<story><title>Ford’s electric pickup can power a house for days</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-31/how-the-ford-f-150-can-be-a-backup-home-generator</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>vlovich123</author><text>10 Powerwalls: 1.27 Wh&amp;#x2F;$
1 40k truck: 3.5 Wh&amp;#x2F;$
1 72.5k truck: 1.8 Wh&amp;#x2F;$&lt;p&gt;I think you&amp;#x27;re better off getting the 40k truck. I have no idea how Ford is getting batteries for so much cheaper for the 40k truck.</text></item><item><author>slg</author><text>&amp;gt;Surprised there’s no discussion on the price delta here - I could buy 10x power-walls for $110k, or 1x E F150 for $40k and get a free truck thrown in.&lt;p&gt;The reason there is no discussion of price delta is at least partially because the price of the truck discussed in the article is not the $40k variant. 10 Powerwalls would be 140 kWh of battery while the $40k F-150 Lightning would be 98 kWh.  The one mentioned in the article with the 131 kWh battery is nearly double the price starting at $72.5k.  That still might make the F-150 the better solution, but accuracy is important.</text></item><item><author>ag56</author><text>Surprised there’s no discussion on the price delta here - I could buy 10x power-walls for $110k, or 1x E F150 for $40k and get a free truck thrown in.&lt;p&gt;As someone with a large house who just investigated a hybrid power walls + gas generator + solar backup solution and didn’t go through with it due to cost, this is huge. I am literally considering buying an F150 to just keep parked stationary behind my garage.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ActorNightly</author><text>&amp;gt;I have no idea how Ford is getting batteries for so much cheaper for the 40k truck.&lt;p&gt;Because F150 is the number one vehicle sold in US, and Lightning is the platform that is aiming to replace it in the future. Ford probably has long term supply contracts with battery manufacturers.</text></comment>