<story><title>Arctic Is Warming At &apos;Astonishing&apos; Rates, Researchers Say</title><url>http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/13/505434080/scientists-report-the-arctic-is-melting-even-more-rapidly</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jamesblonde</author><text>I am really shocked at the Americans here on HN. I have to say it straight out. In the rest of the western world, there is no debate about what&amp;#x27;s happening. But even here on HN, with the high quality of debate, this thread has descended into discussion of whether global warming is real or not or a maybe even good thing. It&amp;#x27;s real, it&amp;#x27;s only americans who are sceptics. Please wake up, you&amp;#x27;ve been brainwashed by your corrupt media (yes, I mean Fox News amongst others).</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rybosome</author><text>Unfortunately climate change has become a shibboleth for political tribal affiliation. To be conservative (in the tribal sense) means holding disbelief in climate change. Note that I&amp;#x27;m not exempting liberals from this sort of behavior, many liberals believe in the existence of climate change without having the slighest understanding of it because that&amp;#x27;s what the rest of the tribe does. No amount of facts, exhortations, threats or pleas will make a difference now. Unless members of the conservative in-group change their minds and spread this message, its going to be a permanent fixture of the American worldview.&lt;p&gt;My hope is that the people most responsible for spreading doubt (e.g. fossil fuel lobbyists) live long enough to see the consequences, but this is unlikely. The most likely scenario is that the brunt of this problem will be borne by future generations, assuming we don&amp;#x27;t get really unlucky and trigger an extinction event. :-(&lt;p&gt;God damn, what a fucked world we live in. I wish I had the comfort of disbelief these people have.</text></comment>
<story><title>Arctic Is Warming At &apos;Astonishing&apos; Rates, Researchers Say</title><url>http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/13/505434080/scientists-report-the-arctic-is-melting-even-more-rapidly</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jamesblonde</author><text>I am really shocked at the Americans here on HN. I have to say it straight out. In the rest of the western world, there is no debate about what&amp;#x27;s happening. But even here on HN, with the high quality of debate, this thread has descended into discussion of whether global warming is real or not or a maybe even good thing. It&amp;#x27;s real, it&amp;#x27;s only americans who are sceptics. Please wake up, you&amp;#x27;ve been brainwashed by your corrupt media (yes, I mean Fox News amongst others).</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>c0nducktr</author><text>One thing (of many) that made me absolutely furious during the American presidential debates, is that climate change and the environment in general were not brought up at all. Not a single time. The people running the world will be the death of us all, putting a chase for profit over everything else. I&amp;#x27;m mad as hell, but feel absolutely powerless.</text></comment>