<story><title>My first industry job: lies, deceptions, and layoffs</title><url>https://jeremyaboyd.com/post/my-first-industry-job</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>zaat</author><text>I had a few terrible bosses as an example of what not to do.&lt;p&gt;Honestly, I wasn&amp;#x27;t really happy with the guy performance. I do need him now, but if he wouldn&amp;#x27;t be quitting I probably would let him go, sooner or later, when I found someone with better attitude and skills. I would feel terrible with myself if I he would pass an opportunity being loyal to the company only to be shown the door few months after. I prefer to work with happy people who want to work where they do, and to achieve these you have to take care of your employees.</text></item><item><author>xupybd</author><text>You sound like a great boss.</text></item><item><author>zaat</author><text>Last week one of my employees quit. He got himself a job well over what I could afford paying. He was really not sure if he should go and was feeling very uncomfortable since we were so good with him and invested in him so much, which is all true. I told him that I would be very happy if he stay but I can&amp;#x27;t ask him to, and that he lives his life for himself, not for me, and that as general rule he should never put his employer interest before his own.&lt;p&gt;He decided to leave, but felt very uncomfortable with it and felt he had to justify it to me and explain his move. I tried to ask him firmly never to do it, since there are people out there who would exploit innocent employees in similar position.&lt;p&gt;You should never justify leaving a company, if you feel like quitting will be better for you just do it. Employment should always be mutual benefit deal, and just like a company would let you go if employing you isn&amp;#x27;t beneficial anymore you should leave without too much hesitation if its for your own benefit. I&amp;#x27;m not saying you should be ungrateful ass, but you should put yourself first in your consideration, most probably nobody else would.</text></item><item><author>PragmaticPulp</author><text>&amp;gt;  the truth was I didn&amp;#x27;t want to be there anymore but I didn&amp;#x27;t know how to quit on my own.&lt;p&gt;This is what it comes down to. A lot of junior employees have a feeling that something is wrong, but they don&amp;#x27;t quite know what to do about it.&lt;p&gt;One of the best things young engineers can do is keep in contact with their peers from college, prior education, or other jobs. Don&amp;#x27;t be afraid to discuss your job and compare notes. If you&amp;#x27;re consistently the only one in the conversation who&amp;#x27;s miserable or even embarrassed to admit your job is bad, it&amp;#x27;s time to start interviewing.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>yardie</author><text>&amp;gt; I told him that I would be very happy if he stay&lt;p&gt;But,&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Honestly, I wasn&amp;#x27;t really happy with the guy performance.&lt;p&gt;Honestly, I feel like this is the neuroses most companies operate under. They want you there, unless they find someone just slightly better. Then they&amp;#x27;ll immediately show you the door. Kids, this is a prime example why you should show absolutely no loyalty. If there is a better offer on deck absolutely take it. The guilt washes away once you turn in your access card.</text></comment>
<story><title>My first industry job: lies, deceptions, and layoffs</title><url>https://jeremyaboyd.com/post/my-first-industry-job</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>zaat</author><text>I had a few terrible bosses as an example of what not to do.&lt;p&gt;Honestly, I wasn&amp;#x27;t really happy with the guy performance. I do need him now, but if he wouldn&amp;#x27;t be quitting I probably would let him go, sooner or later, when I found someone with better attitude and skills. I would feel terrible with myself if I he would pass an opportunity being loyal to the company only to be shown the door few months after. I prefer to work with happy people who want to work where they do, and to achieve these you have to take care of your employees.</text></item><item><author>xupybd</author><text>You sound like a great boss.</text></item><item><author>zaat</author><text>Last week one of my employees quit. He got himself a job well over what I could afford paying. He was really not sure if he should go and was feeling very uncomfortable since we were so good with him and invested in him so much, which is all true. I told him that I would be very happy if he stay but I can&amp;#x27;t ask him to, and that he lives his life for himself, not for me, and that as general rule he should never put his employer interest before his own.&lt;p&gt;He decided to leave, but felt very uncomfortable with it and felt he had to justify it to me and explain his move. I tried to ask him firmly never to do it, since there are people out there who would exploit innocent employees in similar position.&lt;p&gt;You should never justify leaving a company, if you feel like quitting will be better for you just do it. Employment should always be mutual benefit deal, and just like a company would let you go if employing you isn&amp;#x27;t beneficial anymore you should leave without too much hesitation if its for your own benefit. I&amp;#x27;m not saying you should be ungrateful ass, but you should put yourself first in your consideration, most probably nobody else would.</text></item><item><author>PragmaticPulp</author><text>&amp;gt;  the truth was I didn&amp;#x27;t want to be there anymore but I didn&amp;#x27;t know how to quit on my own.&lt;p&gt;This is what it comes down to. A lot of junior employees have a feeling that something is wrong, but they don&amp;#x27;t quite know what to do about it.&lt;p&gt;One of the best things young engineers can do is keep in contact with their peers from college, prior education, or other jobs. Don&amp;#x27;t be afraid to discuss your job and compare notes. If you&amp;#x27;re consistently the only one in the conversation who&amp;#x27;s miserable or even embarrassed to admit your job is bad, it&amp;#x27;s time to start interviewing.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>xupybd</author><text>Did you let him know his performance was not good?&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m always paranoid that my bosses think that way and hate to think they might be unhappy but not saying anything.</text></comment>