<story><title>Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22465846/apple-employees-return-office-three-days-week-september</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>heavyset_go</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;I save money by spending less on food, drinks, and electricity.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;For those of us who have to commute, it&amp;#x27;s not exactly the norm to be saving money while commuting.&lt;p&gt;Commutes are responsible for a 10% drop in hourly wages[1], and the median commute time results in spending 10 full days commuting a year.&lt;p&gt;The average commuter in one of the largest metro areas in the country will spend over 13 full days commuting a year:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;In the area with the longest average commute (New York-Newark-Jersey City), commuters are spending an average of 13 days, 2 hours, and 26 minutes driving to and from work. That means that 14 vacation days a year are barely covering the time it takes to get to work every day. So in addition to dropping the average wage from $34.71 per hour to $30.15 per hour, in order to get 14 days of hanging with their family on a beach, New York commuters must be willing to spend nearly as much time sitting in a car.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;go.frontier.com&amp;#x2F;business&amp;#x2F;commute-calculator&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;go.frontier.com&amp;#x2F;business&amp;#x2F;commute-calculator&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>Nbox9</author><text>I work for another company that is going to do a partial return to office.  I will be looking at options for companies that offer full in person office (or 90% in person office) after things settle down.  I  have worked full remote for a total of 5 years of my career, and I believe working in the office is a competitive advantage.&lt;p&gt;* Overhearing hallway conversations (and joining them) helps spawn invocation.&lt;p&gt;* I often do&amp;#x2F;did paired programming, and over-the-shoulder code reviews.  These are easier in person&lt;p&gt;* Having a workforce socially close improves productivity because everyone wants to step up for each other.&lt;p&gt;* Being seen by my fellow employees helps keep me from becoming distracted.&lt;p&gt;* Working at the office helps prevent home life from being distracting during work hours.&lt;p&gt;There are some personal benefits I enjoy from being in the office.&lt;p&gt;* I save money by spending less on food, drinks, and electricity.&lt;p&gt;* I enjoy the routine.&lt;p&gt;* I had a stronger work&amp;#x2F;life separation.  I rarely turned on my work laptop at home.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ls15</author><text>Private transport is also one of the biggest sources of greenhouse gas emissions.&lt;p&gt;Reducing daily commute seems like a good way to improve our carbon footprint.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.bbc.com&amp;#x2F;future&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;20200317-climate-change-cut-carbon-emissions-from-your-commute&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.bbc.com&amp;#x2F;future&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;20200317-climate-change-c...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple asks staff to return to office 3 days a week starting in early September</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/2/22465846/apple-employees-return-office-three-days-week-september</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>heavyset_go</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;I save money by spending less on food, drinks, and electricity.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;For those of us who have to commute, it&amp;#x27;s not exactly the norm to be saving money while commuting.&lt;p&gt;Commutes are responsible for a 10% drop in hourly wages[1], and the median commute time results in spending 10 full days commuting a year.&lt;p&gt;The average commuter in one of the largest metro areas in the country will spend over 13 full days commuting a year:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;In the area with the longest average commute (New York-Newark-Jersey City), commuters are spending an average of 13 days, 2 hours, and 26 minutes driving to and from work. That means that 14 vacation days a year are barely covering the time it takes to get to work every day. So in addition to dropping the average wage from $34.71 per hour to $30.15 per hour, in order to get 14 days of hanging with their family on a beach, New York commuters must be willing to spend nearly as much time sitting in a car.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;go.frontier.com&amp;#x2F;business&amp;#x2F;commute-calculator&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;go.frontier.com&amp;#x2F;business&amp;#x2F;commute-calculator&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>Nbox9</author><text>I work for another company that is going to do a partial return to office.  I will be looking at options for companies that offer full in person office (or 90% in person office) after things settle down.  I  have worked full remote for a total of 5 years of my career, and I believe working in the office is a competitive advantage.&lt;p&gt;* Overhearing hallway conversations (and joining them) helps spawn invocation.&lt;p&gt;* I often do&amp;#x2F;did paired programming, and over-the-shoulder code reviews.  These are easier in person&lt;p&gt;* Having a workforce socially close improves productivity because everyone wants to step up for each other.&lt;p&gt;* Being seen by my fellow employees helps keep me from becoming distracted.&lt;p&gt;* Working at the office helps prevent home life from being distracting during work hours.&lt;p&gt;There are some personal benefits I enjoy from being in the office.&lt;p&gt;* I save money by spending less on food, drinks, and electricity.&lt;p&gt;* I enjoy the routine.&lt;p&gt;* I had a stronger work&amp;#x2F;life separation.  I rarely turned on my work laptop at home.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>gnicholas</author><text>The food&amp;#x2F;drink part could be the most of it. A Google employee enjoying free food and drink could save $60&amp;#x2F;day versus buying prepared food ($10 for breakfast, $20 for lunch, and $30 for dinner). If you drink much coffee or other beverages, that could be another $15&amp;#x2F;day.&lt;p&gt;If you weigh this against spending an extra hour or two commuting, then it looks like a lousy bargain. But if you are like many people, and ended up working more hours during the pandemic, [1] then that erases some&amp;#x2F;all of the gains of not commuting.&lt;p&gt;1: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.economist.com&amp;#x2F;graphic-detail&amp;#x2F;2020&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;24&amp;#x2F;people-are-working-longer-hours-during-the-pandemic&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.economist.com&amp;#x2F;graphic-detail&amp;#x2F;2020&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;24&amp;#x2F;people-a...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>