<story><title>DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps</title><url>https://spreadprivacy.com/duckduckgo-apple-mapkit-js/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>SEJeff</author><text>Because Tim Cook, as a homosexual, has teared up when speaking about human rights abuses of homosexual under repressive regimes, and how as the CEO of apple, he will do anything within his power to ensure your data stays safe on apple infra &amp;#x2F; hw because he personally thinks about it. Can&amp;#x27;t remember the interview, but it was quite touching actually.&lt;p&gt;He&amp;#x27;s very clear in shareholder calls &amp;#x2F; letters and in their privacy policy. So much so that he even calls out the competition[1] for doing it as Apple does not. From an economics standpoint, Apple doesn&amp;#x27;t make money on your data. They sell you overpriced but quite sophisticated hardware and became one of the most valuable companies in the world doing this. That and he advocates for a US equivalent of the GPDR[2] which absolutely and directly would impact the bottom line of companies like Google and Facebook.&lt;p&gt;Then there is Apple&amp;#x27;s official privacy policy, where they are very explicit that they don&amp;#x27;t gather personal information to sell to advertisers. In much of the non-US world, saying that and not following that is blatantly illegal.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;time.com&amp;#x2F;5433499&amp;#x2F;tim-cook-apple-data-privacy&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;time.com&amp;#x2F;5433499&amp;#x2F;tim-cook-apple-data-privacy&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theverge.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;24&amp;#x2F;18017842&amp;#x2F;tim-cook-data-privacy-laws-us-speech-brussels&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theverge.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;24&amp;#x2F;18017842&amp;#x2F;tim-cook-data-p...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.apple.com&amp;#x2F;privacy&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.apple.com&amp;#x2F;privacy&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>taf2</author><text>Are they or do you just believe that because of what you think you know about the difference between the two companies?</text></item><item><author>SEJeff</author><text>That and from a purely data privacy angle, Apple is legitimately better than Google.</text></item><item><author>NicoJuicy</author><text>Or Apple&amp;#x27;s marketing team lead to a donation to DDG to make it possible</text></item><item><author>gowld</author><text>DDG&amp;#x27;s main marketing model is talking about how they believe Google is  privacy threat, so they&amp;#x27;ll highlight that angle in any change.</text></item><item><author>mtmail</author><text>Some paint it as if the main reason to switch was privacy (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.imore.com&amp;#x2F;duckduckgo-switches-apple-maps-because-privacy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.imore.com&amp;#x2F;duckduckgo-switches-apple-maps-because...&lt;/a&gt; &amp;quot;DuckDuckGo switches to Apple Maps, because privacy&amp;quot;), but the previous map provider was mapbox (openstreetmap plus commercial sources) and I doubt mapbox collected more data than Apple is now.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>objclxt</author><text>&amp;gt; Because Tim Cook, as a homosexual, has teared up when speaking about human rights abuses of homosexual under repressive regimes&lt;p&gt;...but is also more than happy to meet and shake hands with the leaders of those repressive regimes? Like the UAE, which criminalizes sodomy and deports those who identify as LGBT?&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.thenational.ae&amp;#x2F;uae&amp;#x2F;government&amp;#x2F;abu-dhabi-crown-prince-meets-apple-chief-tim-cook-1.256046&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.thenational.ae&amp;#x2F;uae&amp;#x2F;government&amp;#x2F;abu-dhabi-crown-pr...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is it possible Apple, like Tim Cook, has the occasional double standard?</text></comment>
<story><title>DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps</title><url>https://spreadprivacy.com/duckduckgo-apple-mapkit-js/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>SEJeff</author><text>Because Tim Cook, as a homosexual, has teared up when speaking about human rights abuses of homosexual under repressive regimes, and how as the CEO of apple, he will do anything within his power to ensure your data stays safe on apple infra &amp;#x2F; hw because he personally thinks about it. Can&amp;#x27;t remember the interview, but it was quite touching actually.&lt;p&gt;He&amp;#x27;s very clear in shareholder calls &amp;#x2F; letters and in their privacy policy. So much so that he even calls out the competition[1] for doing it as Apple does not. From an economics standpoint, Apple doesn&amp;#x27;t make money on your data. They sell you overpriced but quite sophisticated hardware and became one of the most valuable companies in the world doing this. That and he advocates for a US equivalent of the GPDR[2] which absolutely and directly would impact the bottom line of companies like Google and Facebook.&lt;p&gt;Then there is Apple&amp;#x27;s official privacy policy, where they are very explicit that they don&amp;#x27;t gather personal information to sell to advertisers. In much of the non-US world, saying that and not following that is blatantly illegal.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;time.com&amp;#x2F;5433499&amp;#x2F;tim-cook-apple-data-privacy&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;time.com&amp;#x2F;5433499&amp;#x2F;tim-cook-apple-data-privacy&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theverge.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;24&amp;#x2F;18017842&amp;#x2F;tim-cook-data-privacy-laws-us-speech-brussels&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.theverge.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;24&amp;#x2F;18017842&amp;#x2F;tim-cook-data-p...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.apple.com&amp;#x2F;privacy&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.apple.com&amp;#x2F;privacy&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>taf2</author><text>Are they or do you just believe that because of what you think you know about the difference between the two companies?</text></item><item><author>SEJeff</author><text>That and from a purely data privacy angle, Apple is legitimately better than Google.</text></item><item><author>NicoJuicy</author><text>Or Apple&amp;#x27;s marketing team lead to a donation to DDG to make it possible</text></item><item><author>gowld</author><text>DDG&amp;#x27;s main marketing model is talking about how they believe Google is  privacy threat, so they&amp;#x27;ll highlight that angle in any change.</text></item><item><author>mtmail</author><text>Some paint it as if the main reason to switch was privacy (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.imore.com&amp;#x2F;duckduckgo-switches-apple-maps-because-privacy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.imore.com&amp;#x2F;duckduckgo-switches-apple-maps-because...&lt;/a&gt; &amp;quot;DuckDuckGo switches to Apple Maps, because privacy&amp;quot;), but the previous map provider was mapbox (openstreetmap plus commercial sources) and I doubt mapbox collected more data than Apple is now.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>elliekelly</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m an attorney and have worked with several financial institutions drafting policies&amp;#x2F;statements&amp;#x2F;investor disclosures about privacy and user data.  For most financial institutions user privacy is good for the bottom line but expensive so they tend to do the bare minimum.  The bare minimum is not a lot but it&amp;#x27;s quite a bit more than nothing, which is what most non-medical&amp;#x2F;non-financial institutions have to do.  I&amp;#x27;ve never worked with a tech company on privacy matters but I would expect any company that depends on collecting and monetizing user data to be much more aggressive than the typical financial institution.  That said, comparing Apple&amp;#x27;s privacy policies to those of a financial institution they are truly above and beyond any minimum regulatory standard.&lt;p&gt;I know most people don&amp;#x27;t pay them any attention but I&amp;#x27;m really not sure you could find a more customer-focused privacy policy.  I&amp;#x27;ve yet to find one and I would guess I&amp;#x27;ve read at least 10x as many privacy policies as the average person.  Everything from what their disclosures say to &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; they&amp;#x27;ve structured them to be easily read, easily understood, and (dare I say) engaging is indicative of just how much they prioritize user-privacy.&lt;p&gt;edit: meant &lt;i&gt;non&lt;/i&gt; medical</text></comment>