<story><title>Tell HN: Please stop sending AI-generated job applications (whoishiring threads)</title><text>Via yesterday&amp;#x27;s whoishiring thread, I received more than 70 emails. A good percentage of them (nearly half of them) came with unedited AI-generated cover letters.&lt;p&gt;Please don&amp;#x27;t do this. I spend time going through the resume, the various links in it, and then responding to everyone who applied. But this time, with so much AI-generated verbiage I simply don&amp;#x27;t want to.&lt;p&gt;I understand non-native speakers of English wanting to use AI. But frankly, just saying &amp;quot;here&amp;#x27;s my resume (and github&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;publications etc)&amp;quot; is better than ChatGPT content. Writing longer emails creates an obligation for us (at the hiring end), and when it&amp;#x27;s AI-generated you&amp;#x27;re just wasting our time. If there&amp;#x27;s a distinct AI-generated tone to the email, I&amp;#x27;m inclined to not consider the application.</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>nullptr_deref</author><text>I am sorry to play the role of devil&amp;#x27;s advocate.&lt;p&gt;The hiring industry put up with ridiculous requirements on the engineers. There is such a disconnect between the requirements on job post and actual job. As a result, all entry level people are forced to apply to 300-400 jobs at least. And you are all looking for programmers. If one thing I know is most of them are having a heck of fun creating their automated system.&lt;p&gt;I know it&amp;#x27;s annoying to you but it is equally annoying to us. I hope the upper management learns something out of this. Compile a presentation and show it to upper management. If they don&amp;#x27;t do something, expect more weird stuffs down the line.&lt;p&gt;I think your upper management will force your senior engineers to come with a filter and we will come with ways to bypass the filter. The race to the bottom is on.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>lovehashbrowns</author><text>I agree with this. Just getting to talk to a human is a massive effort in the hiring process. Before that it’s create an account on workday, have it automatically fill in the form with a pdf resume but it doesn’t change anything because I still have to go through it and make sure everything is correct, decide if I want to put effort into writing a cover letter, fill in all the manual questionnaires like “why do you want to work for us?” that I’m comfortable with, wait 2+ weeks for the automated rejection email, repeat!&lt;p&gt;This is also precious coming from an industry that uses automated emails for rejection. Yeah you don’t want to write 80 personalized rejection emails (probably way more) aaaand we don’t want to write 80 (or more) cover letters. I feel that’s pretty fair.&lt;p&gt;Also isn’t this the industry that uses keywords to automatically detect “good” resumes and skips the resumes that don’t have those keywords?</text></comment>
<story><title>Tell HN: Please stop sending AI-generated job applications (whoishiring threads)</title><text>Via yesterday&amp;#x27;s whoishiring thread, I received more than 70 emails. A good percentage of them (nearly half of them) came with unedited AI-generated cover letters.&lt;p&gt;Please don&amp;#x27;t do this. I spend time going through the resume, the various links in it, and then responding to everyone who applied. But this time, with so much AI-generated verbiage I simply don&amp;#x27;t want to.&lt;p&gt;I understand non-native speakers of English wanting to use AI. But frankly, just saying &amp;quot;here&amp;#x27;s my resume (and github&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;publications etc)&amp;quot; is better than ChatGPT content. Writing longer emails creates an obligation for us (at the hiring end), and when it&amp;#x27;s AI-generated you&amp;#x27;re just wasting our time. If there&amp;#x27;s a distinct AI-generated tone to the email, I&amp;#x27;m inclined to not consider the application.</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>nullptr_deref</author><text>I am sorry to play the role of devil&amp;#x27;s advocate.&lt;p&gt;The hiring industry put up with ridiculous requirements on the engineers. There is such a disconnect between the requirements on job post and actual job. As a result, all entry level people are forced to apply to 300-400 jobs at least. And you are all looking for programmers. If one thing I know is most of them are having a heck of fun creating their automated system.&lt;p&gt;I know it&amp;#x27;s annoying to you but it is equally annoying to us. I hope the upper management learns something out of this. Compile a presentation and show it to upper management. If they don&amp;#x27;t do something, expect more weird stuffs down the line.&lt;p&gt;I think your upper management will force your senior engineers to come with a filter and we will come with ways to bypass the filter. The race to the bottom is on.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dleeftink</author><text>I was about to say: the automation of HR and candidate screening has given rise to &amp;#x27;hidden workers&amp;#x27; that may be ideal for certain positions but are missed due to candidate pre-screening [0].&lt;p&gt;[0]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.hbs.edu&amp;#x2F;managing-the-future-of-work&amp;#x2F;Documents&amp;#x2F;research&amp;#x2F;hiddenworkers09032021.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.hbs.edu&amp;#x2F;managing-the-future-of-work&amp;#x2F;Documents&amp;#x2F;re...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>