<story><title>Amazon workers sleeping in tents</title><url>https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/325800/exclusive-amazon-workers-sleeping-in-tents-near-dunfermline-site/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>s_kilk</author><text>&amp;gt; But really, what can Amazon do about this?&lt;p&gt;They could pay their workers a living wage and not treat them like dogs.</text></item><item><author>throwaway420</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t like this article because it seems like a purely emotional appeal.&lt;p&gt;To be sure, there&amp;#x27;s a lot of people who have said that Amazon is a shitty place to work: not just in entry level jobs, but even as a well-educated 6 figure software engineer. I would not choose to work for Amazon unless I was desperate, period. It seems too corporate and too micromanaged a place to work and the few good things about working there that I&amp;#x27;ve heard like small teams don&amp;#x27;t outweigh all of the negatives.&lt;p&gt;That being said, Amazon isn&amp;#x27;t a government entity that is responsible for your housing and they have no right to tell you where to sleep at night.&lt;p&gt;Look at this section of the article in particular.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; One worker, who did not wish to be named, was reluctant to speak to The Courier but did describe the firm as a “poor employer” and criticised working practices at the Fife site. He added that he had opted to stay in a tent as it was easier and cheaper than commuting from his home in Perth, although his camping equipment had disappeared by Friday afternoon.&lt;p&gt;This is a guy took the best job that was available to him (even though it&amp;#x27;s far away from his house) who is doing this by choice for a period of time as he believes that this decision benefits him the most. I don&amp;#x27;t see anything wrong with this. I feel bad for him if his stuff got stolen because of the extra media attention there: the reporter was probably intending to do something nice for them and it might end up backfiring.&lt;p&gt;But really, what can Amazon do about this? For that one example, that&amp;#x27;s a guy that already has a home but chooses not use it out of convenience. If they offered seasonal workers some extra resources and facilities (say use of the parking lot to sleep in safer at night) to make their lives easier, they&amp;#x27;d instantly be accused of exploiting workers and there would be images of tent cities on the news every night trying to make them look bad.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>merb</author><text>&amp;gt;  it was easier and cheaper than commuting from his home in Perth&lt;p&gt;so it would be fair if somebody who did a poor job in his school days (probably, I never heard that anybody work at Amazon with higher education and even than in germany amazon pays way more than other employers Zalando for example) and already have a home to get as much money to have two homes because one of the fact that his job is too far away from his regular house?
Btw. I&amp;#x27;m dropped out of &amp;quot;College&amp;quot; (in germany it&amp;#x27;s called different) but I tried hard to get a decent job and search a place to live (which is extremly hard here in Freiburg) but I got a cheap one that I can afford, besides the fact that it&amp;#x27;s not big, but it&amp;#x27;s fine. And I never complained since It was my own fault that I don&amp;#x27;t live like the rich boys now and &amp;quot;only&amp;quot; drive a &amp;quot;small&amp;quot; car, but some people are just ridicoulus.&lt;p&gt;I know there are a lot of problems in the world but actually Europe and USA are actually still not the one&amp;#x27;s with &amp;quot;really really&amp;quot; big problems, actually we discuss about problems that some people did not get enough money blabla, while in other countries they barly get any money, food and water, it&amp;#x27;s just ridicoulus that we live in the cockaigne and call out some big companies because they don&amp;#x27;t pay their workers more. What all people forgot, they have a job, without one they would get way way less.</text></comment>
<story><title>Amazon workers sleeping in tents</title><url>https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/325800/exclusive-amazon-workers-sleeping-in-tents-near-dunfermline-site/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>s_kilk</author><text>&amp;gt; But really, what can Amazon do about this?&lt;p&gt;They could pay their workers a living wage and not treat them like dogs.</text></item><item><author>throwaway420</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t like this article because it seems like a purely emotional appeal.&lt;p&gt;To be sure, there&amp;#x27;s a lot of people who have said that Amazon is a shitty place to work: not just in entry level jobs, but even as a well-educated 6 figure software engineer. I would not choose to work for Amazon unless I was desperate, period. It seems too corporate and too micromanaged a place to work and the few good things about working there that I&amp;#x27;ve heard like small teams don&amp;#x27;t outweigh all of the negatives.&lt;p&gt;That being said, Amazon isn&amp;#x27;t a government entity that is responsible for your housing and they have no right to tell you where to sleep at night.&lt;p&gt;Look at this section of the article in particular.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; One worker, who did not wish to be named, was reluctant to speak to The Courier but did describe the firm as a “poor employer” and criticised working practices at the Fife site. He added that he had opted to stay in a tent as it was easier and cheaper than commuting from his home in Perth, although his camping equipment had disappeared by Friday afternoon.&lt;p&gt;This is a guy took the best job that was available to him (even though it&amp;#x27;s far away from his house) who is doing this by choice for a period of time as he believes that this decision benefits him the most. I don&amp;#x27;t see anything wrong with this. I feel bad for him if his stuff got stolen because of the extra media attention there: the reporter was probably intending to do something nice for them and it might end up backfiring.&lt;p&gt;But really, what can Amazon do about this? For that one example, that&amp;#x27;s a guy that already has a home but chooses not use it out of convenience. If they offered seasonal workers some extra resources and facilities (say use of the parking lot to sleep in safer at night) to make their lives easier, they&amp;#x27;d instantly be accused of exploiting workers and there would be images of tent cities on the news every night trying to make them look bad.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>intopieces</author><text>Can you provide evidence to support how your solution addresses the issue?&lt;p&gt;Would the wage you propose all workers make allow this individual to live closer to his work site? Does the wage he makes now specifically disallow him from living close to his work site? Would his employer treating him better mean he doesn&amp;#x27;t sleep in a tent?&lt;p&gt;This article doesn&amp;#x27;t give us enough information to know.</text></comment>