<story><title>You&apos;ll never be Chinese</title><url>http://www.haohaoreport.com/l/37198?utm_source=twitterfeed&amp;utm_medium=facebook</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Jd</author><text>&quot;A China that leads the world will not offer the chance to be Chinese, because it is impossible to become Chinese. &quot;&lt;p&gt;Of course. The British led the world and did not offer (at the time) anyone the chance to be British either. In fact, they actively discouraged interbreeding. It is a dogma of the modern Occident that it is stronger to be multi-ethnic, and that national identity should be open to anyone. History shows us, however, that that is hardly a necessity for world empire.&lt;p&gt;Full disclosure: I was once in love with a Chinese woman from an elite family, who I am fairly certain loved me but rejected me because I did not belong to the appropriate stock (with influence from her family). Lesson learned: if love is strong, kinship bonds are often stronger.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>msabalau</author><text>Of course, that we speak of &quot;the British&quot; is a testament to a certain level of success of melding English/Scottish/Welsh identities, much of which happened in the context of imperial endeavor. And certainly many other groups (Sepoys, say) found their interests aligned at times with the imperial project, in a way that outweighed their ethnic background.&lt;p&gt;Being open to a flexible interpretation of identity/citzenship (Brits, Romans) or having a nominally universal ideology/religion (Americans, Islamic caliphates) seems like it be a large help in successful world leadership, even if it&apos;s not a prerequisite.</text></comment>
<story><title>You&apos;ll never be Chinese</title><url>http://www.haohaoreport.com/l/37198?utm_source=twitterfeed&amp;utm_medium=facebook</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Jd</author><text>&quot;A China that leads the world will not offer the chance to be Chinese, because it is impossible to become Chinese. &quot;&lt;p&gt;Of course. The British led the world and did not offer (at the time) anyone the chance to be British either. In fact, they actively discouraged interbreeding. It is a dogma of the modern Occident that it is stronger to be multi-ethnic, and that national identity should be open to anyone. History shows us, however, that that is hardly a necessity for world empire.&lt;p&gt;Full disclosure: I was once in love with a Chinese woman from an elite family, who I am fairly certain loved me but rejected me because I did not belong to the appropriate stock (with influence from her family). Lesson learned: if love is strong, kinship bonds are often stronger.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>chaostheory</author><text>&amp;#62; A China that leads the world will not offer the chance to be Chinese, because it is impossible to become Chinese.&lt;p&gt;I feel that this only applies for the elite, especially when there&apos;s a lot of political infighting; marrying an outsider will weaken the whole family which is really bad in a low trust society but that&apos;s another topic. This is not true for all social levels of China. China has practiced for what my international affairs prof terms as &quot;reverse genocide&quot;. What is it? When an ethnically Han Chinese man or woman marries a non-Han partner, their children and their whole family are considered Chinese. To be fair, there are exceptions since China (and you can argue most of Asia) is still somewhat racist. If your children do no look &quot;Chinese&quot;, they will not be considered as chinese.</text></comment>