<story><title>Why One Programmer Doesn’t Do DevOps Anymore</title><url>https://lionfacelemonface.wordpress.com/2015/03/08/devops-is-bullshit-why-one-programmer-doesnt-do-it-anymore/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>icedchai</author><text>Or, in the small company case, you never hire any dedicated ops people to begin with. You have developers fighting fires all day, getting interrupted constantly, causing them to hate their jobs.</text></item><item><author>mhurron</author><text>&amp;gt; DevOps is about dev and ops teams communicating and having empathy for the requirements of the other team.&lt;p&gt;Most posters here don&amp;#x27;t seem to get it. Most replies appear to be the idea that DevOps means you fire your Ops people and the Developers do Ops previous job and their own Development job as well.</text></item><item><author>mugsie</author><text>DevOps as it has been implemented in tons of company &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; bs.&lt;p&gt;Its like the &amp;quot;Agile&amp;quot; push that companies thought they could get by buying a tool, and changing nothing else (release schedules, feature based release dates etc).&lt;p&gt;My favorite way of looking at it is simple - replace the word DevOps with empathy. That is the core of the idea, so lets try it - &amp;quot;Empathy Team&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Empathy Person&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Empathy Engineer&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;DevOps is about dev and ops teams communicating and having empathy for the requirements of the other team.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>gibsonje</author><text>Small company. We don&amp;#x27;t have many problems. We have a couple pain points but we fix them over time. When hosts die, it generally doesn&amp;#x27;t mean anything. There&amp;#x27;s redundancy in all things. I don&amp;#x27;t find myself interrupted often.&lt;p&gt;Previous job had a &amp;quot;Systems&amp;quot; team and a &amp;quot;Database&amp;quot; team. Both were just teams of obstructionists.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Oh you need something today? Well, if you get a jira ticket made I could look into getting the requirements written up sometime in the next 2 weeks, to get the work assigned out next month.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Not saying that&amp;#x27;s the norm, but damn I hope I never experience that again.</text></comment>
<story><title>Why One Programmer Doesn’t Do DevOps Anymore</title><url>https://lionfacelemonface.wordpress.com/2015/03/08/devops-is-bullshit-why-one-programmer-doesnt-do-it-anymore/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>icedchai</author><text>Or, in the small company case, you never hire any dedicated ops people to begin with. You have developers fighting fires all day, getting interrupted constantly, causing them to hate their jobs.</text></item><item><author>mhurron</author><text>&amp;gt; DevOps is about dev and ops teams communicating and having empathy for the requirements of the other team.&lt;p&gt;Most posters here don&amp;#x27;t seem to get it. Most replies appear to be the idea that DevOps means you fire your Ops people and the Developers do Ops previous job and their own Development job as well.</text></item><item><author>mugsie</author><text>DevOps as it has been implemented in tons of company &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; bs.&lt;p&gt;Its like the &amp;quot;Agile&amp;quot; push that companies thought they could get by buying a tool, and changing nothing else (release schedules, feature based release dates etc).&lt;p&gt;My favorite way of looking at it is simple - replace the word DevOps with empathy. That is the core of the idea, so lets try it - &amp;quot;Empathy Team&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Empathy Person&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Empathy Engineer&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;DevOps is about dev and ops teams communicating and having empathy for the requirements of the other team.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>digi_owl</author><text>As an outsider i feel that the whole devops thing has come from a few web people spinning up some slapdash service using AWS etc and call it a day. Then something breaks and it is firefighting from that day onwards.&lt;p&gt;I wonder if one can draw parallels to the BYOD thing.&lt;p&gt;In both senses it seems to boil down to someone bypassing the IT admins because their manager wants to see results ASAP, and IT is going &amp;quot;sorry, budget and&amp;#x2F;or regulations says we can&amp;#x27;t at this time&amp;quot;.</text></comment>