<story><title>Scrollbars are becoming a problem</title><url>https://artemis.sh/2023/10/12/scrollbars.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>speeder</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t use dark mode for contrast, I use because a lot of software &amp;quot;light mode&amp;quot; is just plain white. And screens been getting more and more powerful.&lt;p&gt;Often using software without white mode the thing is so bright, that the walls near me get lighted up as if I was using a flashlight or something.&lt;p&gt;Thus I have to make the screen less bright, but often this also make the screen colors and contrast get all screwy and I still can&amp;#x27;t see anything.&lt;p&gt;I miss Win 9x era grey interface... it wasn&amp;#x27;t beautiful but I could actually see stuff.</text></item><item><author>Pannoniae</author><text>I have come to a funny realisation recently. It&amp;#x27;s not my eyesight which is becoming worse, it&amp;#x27;s the UIs which are becoming worse. The tiny scrollbars with laughable contrast are in no way accessible to anyone. I&amp;#x27;ve recently switched to using KDE with the Oxygen theme and it&amp;#x27;s a joy to use without any eye strain.&lt;p&gt;These scrollbars are absolutely pathetic, with no room for customisation. (good luck theming a locked-down application) It&amp;#x27;s blatant how UI designers don&amp;#x27;t give a damn about the users&amp;#x27; needs, not even in FOSSland. I am not entirely sure why this is the case but it&amp;#x27;s a sad regression from the days when we had good-looking, functional, accessible and snappy software. Not locked-down, unthemable electron bullshit.&lt;p&gt;Also, we wouldn&amp;#x27;t need &amp;quot;dark mode&amp;quot; or the such if the UIs had any contrast and were legible.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Groxx</author><text>... Ya know, I haven&amp;#x27;t thought about that before, but screens &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; a lot brighter now aren&amp;#x27;t they.  I wonder how much of the dark mode thing is just that the old good defaults are now eye-burningly bright, so of course people don&amp;#x27;t like them as much.</text></comment>
<story><title>Scrollbars are becoming a problem</title><url>https://artemis.sh/2023/10/12/scrollbars.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>speeder</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t use dark mode for contrast, I use because a lot of software &amp;quot;light mode&amp;quot; is just plain white. And screens been getting more and more powerful.&lt;p&gt;Often using software without white mode the thing is so bright, that the walls near me get lighted up as if I was using a flashlight or something.&lt;p&gt;Thus I have to make the screen less bright, but often this also make the screen colors and contrast get all screwy and I still can&amp;#x27;t see anything.&lt;p&gt;I miss Win 9x era grey interface... it wasn&amp;#x27;t beautiful but I could actually see stuff.</text></item><item><author>Pannoniae</author><text>I have come to a funny realisation recently. It&amp;#x27;s not my eyesight which is becoming worse, it&amp;#x27;s the UIs which are becoming worse. The tiny scrollbars with laughable contrast are in no way accessible to anyone. I&amp;#x27;ve recently switched to using KDE with the Oxygen theme and it&amp;#x27;s a joy to use without any eye strain.&lt;p&gt;These scrollbars are absolutely pathetic, with no room for customisation. (good luck theming a locked-down application) It&amp;#x27;s blatant how UI designers don&amp;#x27;t give a damn about the users&amp;#x27; needs, not even in FOSSland. I am not entirely sure why this is the case but it&amp;#x27;s a sad regression from the days when we had good-looking, functional, accessible and snappy software. Not locked-down, unthemable electron bullshit.&lt;p&gt;Also, we wouldn&amp;#x27;t need &amp;quot;dark mode&amp;quot; or the such if the UIs had any contrast and were legible.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wkat4242</author><text>True. I use my screen with 0% brightness during the day and I have to reduce contrast during the night (which leads to reduced colour depth). Using dark mode is unavoidable for this reason.&lt;p&gt;Display manufacturers should really not just look at the maximum brightness but also the minimum.</text></comment>