<story><title>In a first, U.S. blames Russia for cyber attacks on energy grid</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-sanctions-energygrid/in-a-first-u-s-blames-russia-for-cyber-attacks-on-energy-grid-idUSKCN1GR2G3</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>mike_hearn</author><text>This is not a first. The USA made a nearly identical claim in this retracted story in 2016:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&amp;#x2F;world&amp;#x2F;national-security&amp;#x2F;russian-hackers-penetrated-us-electricity-grid-through-a-utility-in-vermont&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;30&amp;#x2F;8fc90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&amp;#x2F;world&amp;#x2F;national-security&amp;#x2F;russi...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;A code associated with the Russian hacking operation dubbed Grizzly Steppe by the Obama administration has been detected within the system of a Vermont utility, according to U.S. officials.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;... but ...&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Editor’s Note: An earlier version of this story incorrectly said that Russian hackers had penetrated the U.S. electric grid. Authorities say there is no indication of that so far. The computer at Burlington Electric that was hacked was not attached to the grid.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Generally speaking, anonymously sourced stories in western news outlets about Russian hacking have a very high propensity to collapse or get quietly retracted days later. The DHS is particularly notorious for this: they also claimed Russia hacked various election related systems in multiple states, but the states themselves investigated and said the DHS was wrong.&lt;p&gt;I cite some more examples in this blog post:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.plan99.net&amp;#x2F;%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B4%D0%B0-6e24757a67ba&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.plan99.net&amp;#x2F;%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B4%D0%B0...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Glenn Greenwald also wrote extensively about this problem.&lt;p&gt;So now we have an &amp;quot;unprecedented&amp;quot; story sourced to anonymous officials in the DHS, making the entirely false claim that this is the first time US officials have accused Russia of hacking the electrical grid. The cited evidence is a Symantec report that didn&amp;#x27;t name anyone in particular.&lt;p&gt;Is it possible Russia is doing this? Of course. I would be, if I were Putin. But I&amp;#x27;d also be doing it if I were the leader of Iran or North Korea or China. Perhaps all of them are doing it.&lt;p&gt;Regardless of the truth, this sort of story should have no credibility with anyone by now. There have been far too many false stories about Russian hacking published for them to carry weight.</text></comment>
<story><title>In a first, U.S. blames Russia for cyber attacks on energy grid</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-sanctions-energygrid/in-a-first-u-s-blames-russia-for-cyber-attacks-on-energy-grid-idUSKCN1GR2G3</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>exabrial</author><text>I feel like we&amp;#x27;re playing a dangerous game, escalating towards war. We&amp;#x27;ve interfered with each other&amp;#x27;s elections dating back to the cold war. I&amp;#x27;m not saying it&amp;#x27;s moral, but we should maybe reexamine our own actions and what we&amp;#x27;re willing to sacrifice before asking for things [extraditions] for things we&amp;#x27;re also guilty of.</text></comment>