<story><title>US spies are buying Americans’ data – Congress has a new chance to stop it</title><url>https://www.wired.com/story/ndaa-2023-davidson-jacobs-fourth-amendment/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>thisisthenewme</author><text>So on the side of wanting easy access to American data -&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  - People in the gov who want to monitor the general populace for dissent
  - Power hungry individuals and governments
  - Governments wanting to learn about their foreign adversaries&amp;#x2F;allies
  - People in the gov who want to monitor other gov agents for whatever reason
  - Corporations wanting to learn about their adversaries
  - Corporations wanting to maximize their profits
  - Corporations wanting to learn about their users for whatever reasons
  - And so on and on.
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On the side of limiting access to user data -&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  - People wanting privacy
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Don&amp;#x27;t want to sound too pessimistic but I can&amp;#x27;t help it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>imagine99</author><text>Most - if not all - the people in your first group are also in the second group! That is, I think, what they (and everyone) really needs to realize and understand:&lt;p&gt;The all-powerful CEO who wants access to detailed customer data? He will be in The Database himself (if not his own, then in the one that a rival company offers). As will his favorite son with the drug habit, and the questionable thing he did on holiday that one time... Might not even be that bad or illegal. But would he want his workers to know those things about him?&lt;p&gt;The policitian whose party is in power right now? She is in The Database, too. As is her shady half-brother, all the info about the medical procedures she had done while in college, plus her husband&amp;#x27;s business dealings. Sure, they are legal but will it sound good to her constituency if it leaks? After all, her party might not be in the majority anymore after the next election...&lt;p&gt;Whenever your unbridled greed for tracking, profiling and surveillance becomes overwhelming, please attend your closest meeting of &amp;quot;Data Collectors Anonymous&amp;quot; and memorize the mantra: IYDTS - It&amp;#x27;s your data, too, stupid!&lt;p&gt;Your own daughter will be spied on by creeps. Your mother may be discriminated against when trying to get a mortgage. Whenever you collect people&amp;#x27;s data for profit or control, you WILL hurt yourself and the ones you love.&lt;p&gt;Even if you personally are the cleanest Mr. goodie two shoes to ever live, those around you surely aren&amp;#x27;t - and don&amp;#x27;t forget, in the end it&amp;#x27;s very easy for The Database to have some entries about you that might not even be true. Mistakes happen. Good luck proving or correcting them.&lt;p&gt;If you don&amp;#x27;t do whatever you can to protect privacy and minimize data collection, every day the chance increases that your own data will be collected and used against you or the ones you love. Then you might not be in a position to stop it anymore. And you may never be happy again...</text></comment>
<story><title>US spies are buying Americans’ data – Congress has a new chance to stop it</title><url>https://www.wired.com/story/ndaa-2023-davidson-jacobs-fourth-amendment/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>thisisthenewme</author><text>So on the side of wanting easy access to American data -&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  - People in the gov who want to monitor the general populace for dissent
  - Power hungry individuals and governments
  - Governments wanting to learn about their foreign adversaries&amp;#x2F;allies
  - People in the gov who want to monitor other gov agents for whatever reason
  - Corporations wanting to learn about their adversaries
  - Corporations wanting to maximize their profits
  - Corporations wanting to learn about their users for whatever reasons
  - And so on and on.
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
On the side of limiting access to user data -&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  - People wanting privacy
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Don&amp;#x27;t want to sound too pessimistic but I can&amp;#x27;t help it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Loquebantur</author><text>You paint a defeatist picture of the situation, which should be obvious not to be helpful in any way.&lt;p&gt;You list many categories of small groups of people opposed to one encompassing the absolute majority of all. How is the former more powerful by necessity?&lt;p&gt;The key is people realizing they are part of a large group with a common cause. And powerful if they organize as such. Your comment appears designed to prevent that.</text></comment>