<story><title>Tour of new custom M1 macOS runners racks with Christina Warren [video]</title><url>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2J2MzKjcqY</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mysteria</author><text>I wonder when will be the time when Apple themselves just give in and create something like a M core Xserve. They stopped selling them as they weren&amp;#x27;t popular, but at that time Macs simply weren&amp;#x27;t popular.&lt;p&gt;Apple themselves would make good use of the Xserve for their own internal use rather than buying Dell&amp;#x2F;HP servers like they currently do. Also things like Xcode cloud are currently running on x86 commodity servers, in the future Apple likely will stop supporting x86 altogether and it makes sense to run it on AS. They could reuse the high-end Mac Studio or similar chips and only have a custom board and chassis suitable for server use, with additional IO and redundancy.&lt;p&gt;And for those saying that Apple isn&amp;#x27;t interested in large deloyments, they literally make the Mac Pro in rackmount form for render farms and so forth. The Mac Mini has 10G ethernet and the formfactor purposely hasn&amp;#x27;t changed. The chips are efficient enought that you don&amp;#x27;t need screaming loud 1U fans and they could definitely create a quiet 1U Studio suitable for both dense datacenter deployments and a TV studio technician&amp;#x27;s rack.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>lwkl</author><text>Apple doesn&amp;#x27;t want to be in the server market and I don&amp;#x27;t think that will change any time soon. They would have to either build a whole new organisation for that or use resources that go into their consumer products like the iPhone to build servers.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; They could reuse the high-end Mac Studio or similar chips and only have a custom board and chassis suitable for server use, with additional IO and redundancy.&lt;p&gt;Also what would be the benefit of running Xcode cloud on Apple Silicon? Today cross compilation is the norm so the architecture doesn&amp;#x27;t matter. They would have to make a new datacenter version of their chips without the GPU and accelerators that aren&amp;#x27;t used for CPU heavy tasks.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; they literally make the Mac Pro in rackmount form for render farms and so forth.&lt;p&gt;The Mac Pro has a rack mount version is not for the server room. People use racks in audio and video production too and that&amp;#x27;s where you will probably find most of the rack mounted Mac Pros. You can probably fit 2 CPUs and 4 - 8 GPUs in the space a Mac Pro takes in your datacenter. So why would you choose a Mac Pro over that?</text></comment>
<story><title>Tour of new custom M1 macOS runners racks with Christina Warren [video]</title><url>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2J2MzKjcqY</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mysteria</author><text>I wonder when will be the time when Apple themselves just give in and create something like a M core Xserve. They stopped selling them as they weren&amp;#x27;t popular, but at that time Macs simply weren&amp;#x27;t popular.&lt;p&gt;Apple themselves would make good use of the Xserve for their own internal use rather than buying Dell&amp;#x2F;HP servers like they currently do. Also things like Xcode cloud are currently running on x86 commodity servers, in the future Apple likely will stop supporting x86 altogether and it makes sense to run it on AS. They could reuse the high-end Mac Studio or similar chips and only have a custom board and chassis suitable for server use, with additional IO and redundancy.&lt;p&gt;And for those saying that Apple isn&amp;#x27;t interested in large deloyments, they literally make the Mac Pro in rackmount form for render farms and so forth. The Mac Mini has 10G ethernet and the formfactor purposely hasn&amp;#x27;t changed. The chips are efficient enought that you don&amp;#x27;t need screaming loud 1U fans and they could definitely create a quiet 1U Studio suitable for both dense datacenter deployments and a TV studio technician&amp;#x27;s rack.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dijit</author><text>&amp;gt; they literally make the Mac Pro in rackmount form for render farms and so forth&lt;p&gt;The rackmounted Mac Pro is actually intended to be used amongst other rackmounted audio equipment in Studios. FWIW.&lt;p&gt;That it can be used for both is a nice accident, but it&amp;#x27;s not well optimised for a render farm. Not that this matters really as it &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; be used this way so they can still get access to this market.</text></comment>