<story><title>Apple’s anti-union tactics in Atlanta were illegal, US officials say</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-05/apple-s-anti-union-tactics-in-atlanta-were-illegal-us-officials-say</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nickpp</author><text>Please do point out my logical error. I see countless examples of competition keeping corporations in check. What is keeping Unions in check then?</text></item><item><author>krageon</author><text>And yet it&amp;#x27;s not, so clearly you are making a thought error somewhere along this heavily elided process.</text></item><item><author>nickpp</author><text>Corporations are kept in check by competition from other corporation. Uniting is called cartel and is illegal.&lt;p&gt;Unions on the other hand are allowed to join indefinitely, until they become multinational humongous forces like Teamsters.&lt;p&gt;So the balance of power is slanted in favor of Unions.</text></item><item><author>wccrawford</author><text>As much as I don&amp;#x27;t want to be part of one, I absolutely agree that they&amp;#x27;re necessary as a check on corporations.</text></item><item><author>danuker</author><text>I believe unions are necessary in a world of humongous companies.&lt;p&gt;That is because, in case of disagreements, an employee&amp;#x27;s prospect (losing 100% of their income) is a much worse negotiating position than a large company losing &amp;lt;1% of its workforce.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dfxm12</author><text>&lt;i&gt;What is keeping Unions in check then?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Poor media coverage: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;uniontrack.com&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;media-depicts-labor-issues&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;uniontrack.com&amp;#x2F;blog&amp;#x2F;media-depicts-labor-issues&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Conservative judges: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Janus_v._AFSCME&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Janus_v._AFSCME&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Right to work laws&lt;p&gt;Corporations, like Apple, Amazon, etc.&lt;p&gt;Even &amp;quot;The Most Pro-Union President You’ve Ever Seen&amp;quot; couldn&amp;#x27;t bring himself to side with the rail union. The sad part is despite this, even though he isn&amp;#x27;t the most pro union president, he might be up there. That is to say, our federal government in general is very pro corporate.</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple’s anti-union tactics in Atlanta were illegal, US officials say</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-05/apple-s-anti-union-tactics-in-atlanta-were-illegal-us-officials-say</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nickpp</author><text>Please do point out my logical error. I see countless examples of competition keeping corporations in check. What is keeping Unions in check then?</text></item><item><author>krageon</author><text>And yet it&amp;#x27;s not, so clearly you are making a thought error somewhere along this heavily elided process.</text></item><item><author>nickpp</author><text>Corporations are kept in check by competition from other corporation. Uniting is called cartel and is illegal.&lt;p&gt;Unions on the other hand are allowed to join indefinitely, until they become multinational humongous forces like Teamsters.&lt;p&gt;So the balance of power is slanted in favor of Unions.</text></item><item><author>wccrawford</author><text>As much as I don&amp;#x27;t want to be part of one, I absolutely agree that they&amp;#x27;re necessary as a check on corporations.</text></item><item><author>danuker</author><text>I believe unions are necessary in a world of humongous companies.&lt;p&gt;That is because, in case of disagreements, an employee&amp;#x27;s prospect (losing 100% of their income) is a much worse negotiating position than a large company losing &amp;lt;1% of its workforce.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bryanrasmussen</author><text>I believe the parent is saying that if your logic were correct unions would be extremely powerful in relation to multinational corporations and everyone would be afraid of getting the union angry, as this is not the case something must be keeping unions in check or they cannot, at any rate, grow to be as powerful as you suppose.&lt;p&gt;That your logic as stated does not hold any identifiable logical error does not mean that it gives the correct result.</text></comment>