<story><title>Crystal 1.9.1</title><url>https://crystal-lang.org/2023/07/17/1.9.1-released/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>unshavedyak</author><text>This is neat. Who is making the most interesting (and realistically viable, ie not just a research lang) language in this space? Eg, for &lt;i&gt;me (! no language wars intended.. oof)&lt;/i&gt; there is:&lt;p&gt;1. Rust for if i want something C++-esque. Rich stdlib &amp;amp; crates, i love it. My primary language for everything.&lt;p&gt;2. Zig for if i need C. Interesting language, but i can&amp;#x27;t speak from personal experience. Seems to be gaining a lot of traction, makes nice choices, feature rich in the right places, etc.&lt;p&gt;3. ??? for when i want Python.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m asking about #3. Who (if anyone?) is making an attempt at &amp;quot;new and better Python&amp;quot;?&lt;p&gt;.. and yes i know, all these languages i mentioned, including Python, are not dead, are loved by millions, and are all very productive. My statements are not implying that they are anything but amazing. Please don&amp;#x27;t yell at me :)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rich_sasha</author><text>There are many vying for Python&amp;#x27;s space but no clear winner. I think because actually Python is good at many very different areas, and improving one usually makes something else worse.&lt;p&gt;Attempting to list some &amp;quot;better Pythons&amp;quot; by area, and the catches:&lt;p&gt;- golang for web: seems good and simple but also less dynamic&lt;p&gt;- Julia for scientific programming: Julia users are convinced it&amp;#x27;s better but converts are not queuing up. Also the story outside scientific programming is less convincing. Almost all ML&amp;#x2F;AI research is written in Python&lt;p&gt;- glue language &amp;#x2F; generic file wrangling... Not sure if there is a clear contestant!&lt;p&gt;- (shamelessly stolen from sibling comments) nim as a like for like faster&amp;#x2F;better replacement: faster and seemingly quite (still less) dynamic, but smaller ecosystem and unclear governance - currently one man and his GitHub login.&lt;p&gt;Incidentally, I think this &amp;quot;second best at everything&amp;quot; meme-fact is part of its success. There is a huge pool of people using Python for one purpose, who, confronted with a new need, can also use Python, even if it&amp;#x27;s not the best tool for the job. It integrates easily with whatever else is written in Python, and it&amp;#x27;s one less language to learn. This is IMHO where complaints like &amp;quot;why people use Python for X when it sucks&amp;quot; miss the point.</text></comment>
<story><title>Crystal 1.9.1</title><url>https://crystal-lang.org/2023/07/17/1.9.1-released/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>unshavedyak</author><text>This is neat. Who is making the most interesting (and realistically viable, ie not just a research lang) language in this space? Eg, for &lt;i&gt;me (! no language wars intended.. oof)&lt;/i&gt; there is:&lt;p&gt;1. Rust for if i want something C++-esque. Rich stdlib &amp;amp; crates, i love it. My primary language for everything.&lt;p&gt;2. Zig for if i need C. Interesting language, but i can&amp;#x27;t speak from personal experience. Seems to be gaining a lot of traction, makes nice choices, feature rich in the right places, etc.&lt;p&gt;3. ??? for when i want Python.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m asking about #3. Who (if anyone?) is making an attempt at &amp;quot;new and better Python&amp;quot;?&lt;p&gt;.. and yes i know, all these languages i mentioned, including Python, are not dead, are loved by millions, and are all very productive. My statements are not implying that they are anything but amazing. Please don&amp;#x27;t yell at me :)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>cassiogo</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;nim-lang.org&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;nim-lang.org&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt; for #3 probably</text></comment>