<story><title>Reddit&apos;s GameStop, AMC surge is the new Occupy movement</title><url>https://www.cnet.com/news/reddits-gamestop-stock-surge-is-a-terrifying-new-occupy-wall-street</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>djoldman</author><text>1. There isn&amp;#x27;t any one entity that is short 140% of the GME float.
2. If a stock shouldn&amp;#x27;t be allowed to be sold short past 100% then we should outlaw subletting apartments.&lt;p&gt;Why shouldn&amp;#x27;t someone be allowed to pay to borrow something, and then rent it out?  How is that manipulative in and of itself?</text></item><item><author>protomyth</author><text>Shorting a stock 140% is the market manipulation and should be criminal.  Anything a large group does after some hedge fund pulls that stunt is fair game.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>hospadar</author><text>I see the subletting analogy, but there&amp;#x27;s a big difference between subletting an apartment over the summer to minimize your losses (usually for ≤ your rent) and renting all the apartments in manhattan, then subletting them for profit after you corner the market.&lt;p&gt;The former seems fine, and yah, I guess I do think that the latter should be illegal, because it only benefits some wealthy jerk who can afford to corner a market.</text></comment>
<story><title>Reddit&apos;s GameStop, AMC surge is the new Occupy movement</title><url>https://www.cnet.com/news/reddits-gamestop-stock-surge-is-a-terrifying-new-occupy-wall-street</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>djoldman</author><text>1. There isn&amp;#x27;t any one entity that is short 140% of the GME float.
2. If a stock shouldn&amp;#x27;t be allowed to be sold short past 100% then we should outlaw subletting apartments.&lt;p&gt;Why shouldn&amp;#x27;t someone be allowed to pay to borrow something, and then rent it out?  How is that manipulative in and of itself?</text></item><item><author>protomyth</author><text>Shorting a stock 140% is the market manipulation and should be criminal.  Anything a large group does after some hedge fund pulls that stunt is fair game.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>thaumaturgy</author><text>Can the subletting of apartments lead to a Volkswagen Squeeze? (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;moxreports.com&amp;#x2F;vw-infinity-squeeze&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;moxreports.com&amp;#x2F;vw-infinity-squeeze&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;p&gt;The GME heavily-shorted position specifically has directly led to significant manipulation on the parts of investment firms that are now endangered by the very positions they created. If the end game of the stock market is an unregulated free-for-all, then it can&amp;#x27;t be manipulated by definition and there&amp;#x27;s going to be short cycles of calm punctuated by terrifying chaos like 2008 and today; if people want to avoid that chaos, then they have to accept the regulation of chaos-causing behavior.</text></comment>