<story><title>Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/business/beyond-meat-industry.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ajmurmann</author><text>To each their own. I greatly enjoy the flavor of meat, but feel like a serial killer when I think about the animal suffering and to a lesser extend carbon emissions. While I also get a slightly odd feeling in my stomach from Impossible beef (doesn&amp;#x27;t happen with their cyber chicken), it&amp;#x27;s a tradeoff I&amp;#x27;m excited to make 1-2 a month to get the flavor of a burger without feeling like I just tortured a puppy.</text></item><item><author>SoftTalker</author><text>Beyond&amp;#x2F;Incredible meat is awful. There&amp;#x27;s no other description for it. This highly processed fake meat is not healthy. Just eat meat, or don&amp;#x27;t if you don&amp;#x27;t want to. There&amp;#x27;s no need for this fake garbage.</text></item><item><author>colordrops</author><text>I see you are being downvoted, but I know exactly what you mean.  When I eat Impossible and especially Beyond burgers, my stomach feels slightly off. A bit of indigestion.  I don&amp;#x27;t get this with typical veggie patties.</text></item><item><author>TaylorAlexander</author><text>I’m vegan, converted about four years ago so I ate meat for decades. I ate impossible burgers for a while after Burger King got them, because there is some nostalgia&amp;#x2F;novelty in going to a fast food joint.&lt;p&gt;But I’ve realized that this weird food product leaves some kind of odd taste in my stomach, and not just from Burger King. I’m pretty over these fake beef burgers now, and would way rather have a black bean burger or a garden burger. Those taste light and yummy and don’t leave a weird feeling in my stomach.</text></item><item><author>gwbas1c</author><text>I married a vegan, and I eat a lot of vegetarian food. (I also still eat plenty of meat, just not every day.)&lt;p&gt;One &lt;i&gt;extremely&lt;/i&gt; frustrating aspect of plant meat is that they tried to aggressively push out traditional veggie burgers on restaurant menus. A familiar refrain I&amp;#x27;ve heard in restaurants in the last few years is &amp;quot;we used to have a nice veggie patty, but they replaced it with the beyond&amp;#x2F;incredible&amp;#x2F;whatever patty.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;The thing is, vegetarian food is incredible without needing to taste like meat. When I&amp;#x27;ve had these products, I&amp;#x27;ve always walked away feeling like they taste inferior to traditional vegetarian burgers &amp;#x2F; sausages that don&amp;#x27;t try to taste like meat.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Some say the slowdown in sales is a product of food inflation, as consumers trade pricier plant-based meat for less-expensive animal meat.&lt;p&gt;Normally vegetarian food costs less than meat. It&amp;#x27;s because the animals need to eat (surprise surprise) vegetables! When you eat the vegetables directly instead of having the animal eat the vegetable for your, it&amp;#x27;s cheaper.&lt;p&gt;IMO, I think the &amp;quot;meat in a vat&amp;quot; system where animal tissue is grown in some kind of factory setting is a much better approach. When I want to eat meat, I want to eat meat.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>goda90</author><text>If you have the money, buy meat directly from a regenerative ag farm you can go visit personally. You&amp;#x27;ll see animals with plenty of space, given healthcare and protection from predators, and contributing to soil growth and biodiversity.</text></comment>
<story><title>Beyond Meat is struggling, and the plant-based meat industry worries</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/business/beyond-meat-industry.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ajmurmann</author><text>To each their own. I greatly enjoy the flavor of meat, but feel like a serial killer when I think about the animal suffering and to a lesser extend carbon emissions. While I also get a slightly odd feeling in my stomach from Impossible beef (doesn&amp;#x27;t happen with their cyber chicken), it&amp;#x27;s a tradeoff I&amp;#x27;m excited to make 1-2 a month to get the flavor of a burger without feeling like I just tortured a puppy.</text></item><item><author>SoftTalker</author><text>Beyond&amp;#x2F;Incredible meat is awful. There&amp;#x27;s no other description for it. This highly processed fake meat is not healthy. Just eat meat, or don&amp;#x27;t if you don&amp;#x27;t want to. There&amp;#x27;s no need for this fake garbage.</text></item><item><author>colordrops</author><text>I see you are being downvoted, but I know exactly what you mean.  When I eat Impossible and especially Beyond burgers, my stomach feels slightly off. A bit of indigestion.  I don&amp;#x27;t get this with typical veggie patties.</text></item><item><author>TaylorAlexander</author><text>I’m vegan, converted about four years ago so I ate meat for decades. I ate impossible burgers for a while after Burger King got them, because there is some nostalgia&amp;#x2F;novelty in going to a fast food joint.&lt;p&gt;But I’ve realized that this weird food product leaves some kind of odd taste in my stomach, and not just from Burger King. I’m pretty over these fake beef burgers now, and would way rather have a black bean burger or a garden burger. Those taste light and yummy and don’t leave a weird feeling in my stomach.</text></item><item><author>gwbas1c</author><text>I married a vegan, and I eat a lot of vegetarian food. (I also still eat plenty of meat, just not every day.)&lt;p&gt;One &lt;i&gt;extremely&lt;/i&gt; frustrating aspect of plant meat is that they tried to aggressively push out traditional veggie burgers on restaurant menus. A familiar refrain I&amp;#x27;ve heard in restaurants in the last few years is &amp;quot;we used to have a nice veggie patty, but they replaced it with the beyond&amp;#x2F;incredible&amp;#x2F;whatever patty.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;The thing is, vegetarian food is incredible without needing to taste like meat. When I&amp;#x27;ve had these products, I&amp;#x27;ve always walked away feeling like they taste inferior to traditional vegetarian burgers &amp;#x2F; sausages that don&amp;#x27;t try to taste like meat.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Some say the slowdown in sales is a product of food inflation, as consumers trade pricier plant-based meat for less-expensive animal meat.&lt;p&gt;Normally vegetarian food costs less than meat. It&amp;#x27;s because the animals need to eat (surprise surprise) vegetables! When you eat the vegetables directly instead of having the animal eat the vegetable for your, it&amp;#x27;s cheaper.&lt;p&gt;IMO, I think the &amp;quot;meat in a vat&amp;quot; system where animal tissue is grown in some kind of factory setting is a much better approach. When I want to eat meat, I want to eat meat.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>oblio</author><text>The thing is... this is not a solved problem, by far.&lt;p&gt;You forget all that leather used in a myriad of products, that leather comes from cows. Or feathers and down from various birds. Or the other million side products of animal husbandry, that I&amp;#x27;m not even aware of. I think almost every part of a cow is used in an industrial process, not much is wasted.&lt;p&gt;Plus, this needs a totally vegan solution and you&amp;#x27;re wiping out any and all dairy products: cheeses (all 100 million of them), yogurt, regular milk, sour milk, sour cream, whey, etc.</text></comment>