<story><title>H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads</title><url>https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/01/25/h-1b-oracle-favored-hiring-foreign-graduates-of-u-s-colleges-over-american-grads-feds-allege</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>petilon</author><text>America is the most powerful nation in the world today not because it has the most number of people, but because it has the best and the brightest, gathered from around the world.&lt;p&gt;There are 4x as many geniuses in China as in the US. This is not because they are superior genetically. This is simply because the population of China is 4x that of USA. If one in 1,000,000 people are geniuses, then China must have 4x more geniuses than the US. That&amp;#x27;s a threat to the US. If our economy is to remain strong and if we are to remain a superpower we should invite the smartest of the Chinese to immigrate to the US.&lt;p&gt;Abuse of H1B must be stopped. It is not intended as a mechanism for undercutting American workers. But the baby should not be thrown out with the bathwater. We should expand the H1B system and make it easier for immigrants to become citizens, while at the same time preventing abuse.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>drawkbox</author><text>&amp;gt; America is the most powerful nation in the world today not because it has the most number of people, but because it has the best and the brightest, gathered from around the world.&lt;p&gt;I agree, there is a non-quota limited O visa for temporary workers for the best and brightest [1].&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;The O-1 nonimmigrant visa is for the individual who possesses extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business, or athletics, or who has a demonstrated record of extraordinary achievement in the motion picture or television industry and has been recognized nationally or internationally for those achievements.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;H-1B is also required for jobs that can&amp;#x27;t be filled but is definitely being abused.&lt;p&gt;The best and brightest from around the world can ALWAYS get in with no limit with the O visa [2].&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;There is a misconception about the H-1B program that it was designed to allow companies to import workers with unique talents. There has long been a visa program for exactly that purpose. The O (for outstanding) visa program is for importing geniuses and nothing else. Interestingly enough, the O visa program has no quotas. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;The H-1B abuse is more a situation where large companies are abusing it to lower labor costs and wages while owning employees. It will never affect the best and brightest from working in the US by getting an O visa though.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.uscis.gov&amp;#x2F;working-united-states&amp;#x2F;temporary-workers&amp;#x2F;o-1-visa-individuals-extraordinary-ability-or-achievement&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.uscis.gov&amp;#x2F;working-united-states&amp;#x2F;temporary-worker...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cringely.com&amp;#x2F;2012&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;23&amp;#x2F;what-americans-dont-know-about-h-1b-visas-could-hurt-us-all&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.cringely.com&amp;#x2F;2012&amp;#x2F;10&amp;#x2F;23&amp;#x2F;what-americans-dont-know...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>H-1B: Oracle favored hiring foreign graduates of US colleges over American grads</title><url>https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/01/25/h-1b-oracle-favored-hiring-foreign-graduates-of-u-s-colleges-over-american-grads-feds-allege</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>petilon</author><text>America is the most powerful nation in the world today not because it has the most number of people, but because it has the best and the brightest, gathered from around the world.&lt;p&gt;There are 4x as many geniuses in China as in the US. This is not because they are superior genetically. This is simply because the population of China is 4x that of USA. If one in 1,000,000 people are geniuses, then China must have 4x more geniuses than the US. That&amp;#x27;s a threat to the US. If our economy is to remain strong and if we are to remain a superpower we should invite the smartest of the Chinese to immigrate to the US.&lt;p&gt;Abuse of H1B must be stopped. It is not intended as a mechanism for undercutting American workers. But the baby should not be thrown out with the bathwater. We should expand the H1B system and make it easier for immigrants to become citizens, while at the same time preventing abuse.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jazzyk</author><text>Legal and controlled immigration is absolutely beneficial for the US overall.&lt;p&gt;But targeting specific industries is unfair - the software industry has been the main target, lowering the income levels respective to other, protected professions (physicians, etc.), or business executives.&lt;p&gt;Since people in the trades like plumbers or electricians do not fall under the umbrella of &amp;quot;importing the best &amp;amp; brightest&amp;quot;, their hourly rates have been going up steadily (for self-employed people).</text></comment>