<story><title>What does “shitty job” mean in the low-skill, low-pay world?</title><url>https://www.residentcontrarian.com/p/what-does-shitty-job-mean-in-the</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sandworm101</author><text>&amp;gt;&amp;gt; A meatgrinder job is a job that pays more not because there are fewer people who can do it, but because there are fewer people that will. They have insanely high turnover, because some aspect of the job is so bad that the vast majority of people who try it don’t stay. Maybe it’s long hours that never stop or maybe it’s constant on-call work. Maybe it’s an insane, stress-intensive workload you can’t begin to keep up with.&lt;p&gt;Pediatric oncology.  Extremely high skill&amp;#x2F;pay.  Very prestigious.  But most will leave within a few years.  A working day surrounded by kids undergoing painful treatments, particularly when you are the person prescribing those treatments, grinds down one&amp;#x27;s soul.  Or criminal defense attorneys&amp;#x2F;prosecutors.  Or any law enforcement.  To survive such jobs you mush develop a skin so think that to outsiders you appear inhumane.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>giantg2</author><text>In the case of LEOs or prosecutors, I think many give up the search for truth and give in to the us-vs-them mentality. The cognitive dissonance and pressure of group dynamics make it almost a certainty.&lt;p&gt;There is huge power in law enforcement and prosecutorial discretion. Yes, some parts of the job have to be strict for safety purposes. There are many other parts that don&amp;#x27;t.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve had prosecutors and police know that our rights were violated as part of a citation. They did not care. Cop lied multiple times in court and was caught. IAD merely gave them a warning. The LT of the troop made a bunch of BS excuses - either he&amp;#x27;s actually that stupid or he&amp;#x27;s lying too. Filed a complaint about an incompetent magistrate whow also violated due process rights - judicial board doesn&amp;#x27;t care. Prosecutor instructed the court not to talk to us which prevented us from securing remote accommodations for our witness - the Bar didn&amp;#x27;t care. Civil rights lawyer said our rights were violated, but unless there was substantial monetary damages, the system doesn&amp;#x27;t care and would likely see it as frivolous.&lt;p&gt;Nobody cares. Nobody protects your rights. If nobody can enforce your rights, do you even have them at all? All the trooper&amp;#x2F;prosecutor&amp;#x2F;magistrate&amp;#x2F;judge had to do, was drop&amp;#x2F;throw out the case. They had the discretion, and even the responsibility, to do that. Their mentality was the problem. We were guilty in their mind because if we were not, that would make them participants in a broken and unjust system.</text></comment>
<story><title>What does “shitty job” mean in the low-skill, low-pay world?</title><url>https://www.residentcontrarian.com/p/what-does-shitty-job-mean-in-the</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sandworm101</author><text>&amp;gt;&amp;gt; A meatgrinder job is a job that pays more not because there are fewer people who can do it, but because there are fewer people that will. They have insanely high turnover, because some aspect of the job is so bad that the vast majority of people who try it don’t stay. Maybe it’s long hours that never stop or maybe it’s constant on-call work. Maybe it’s an insane, stress-intensive workload you can’t begin to keep up with.&lt;p&gt;Pediatric oncology.  Extremely high skill&amp;#x2F;pay.  Very prestigious.  But most will leave within a few years.  A working day surrounded by kids undergoing painful treatments, particularly when you are the person prescribing those treatments, grinds down one&amp;#x27;s soul.  Or criminal defense attorneys&amp;#x2F;prosecutors.  Or any law enforcement.  To survive such jobs you mush develop a skin so think that to outsiders you appear inhumane.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>TrackerFF</author><text>As far as low-skill, high-pay goes, dockworkers unloading ships is up there with meatgrinder jobs. Your team gets paid for each lb &amp;#x2F; kg unloaded off the ship, and that sum is divided equally over each team member.&lt;p&gt;So the faster and more ships your team can unload, the more you&amp;#x27;re paid. That&amp;#x27;s the incentive.&lt;p&gt;I once got paid almost $1000, in just one day - but that day was 20 hours long, and you&amp;#x27;re pretty much beat to a pulp afterwards.&lt;p&gt;We had people come in, and leave before lunch. No pay in the world would keep them there.&lt;p&gt;Edit, for the curious - I tried to look up some footage of what it looks like:&lt;p&gt;This clip shows a nice and modern trawler, the unloading requires little manpower. See those long brown blocks on the palets? Those would be around 40-50 kgs &amp;#x2F; 90 - 110 lbs.  
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;youtu.be&amp;#x2F;Qi7VNBOJetA?t=115&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;youtu.be&amp;#x2F;Qi7VNBOJetA?t=115&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is more on par with what you&amp;#x27;d usually see - the rooms would be stack to the ceiling with frozen packet&amp;#x2F;blocks. Those blocks are around 20 kgs &amp;#x2F; 45 lbs each. 
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;youtu.be&amp;#x2F;e7u-X8XR1hs?t=543&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;youtu.be&amp;#x2F;e7u-X8XR1hs?t=543&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here&amp;#x27;s a larger trawler - again - sometimes the fish will be stacked to the ceiling
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;youtu.be&amp;#x2F;fQEwECzZL_s?t=2739&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;youtu.be&amp;#x2F;fQEwECzZL_s?t=2739&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately I can&amp;#x27;t seem to find any footage of the more usual scenario, where the blocks are just piled up at random.</text></comment>