<story><title>Students have to jump through absurd hoops to use exam monitoring software</title><url>https://www.vice.com/en/article/88anxg/students-have-to-jump-through-absurd-hoops-to-use-exam-monitoring-software</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cloud5ir</author><text>To me, this underscores notion that schools continue to test for the wrong thing. With the exception of professions&amp;#x2F;trades that require impulse application of knowledge, I don&amp;#x27;t know why I would want&amp;#x2F;need someone to memorize a concept in order to apply it. Productive members of our society&amp;#x2F;workforce think critically, they ask good questions, and they research and leverage the information at their disposal to make data-driven decisions. Let&amp;#x27;s test for that.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>sn41</author><text>I teach programming. What prevents students from colluding over their tablets&amp;#x2F;mobiles&amp;#x2F;laptops while taking the exam from another device? Can&amp;#x27;t the student mirror the screen elsewhere, leading to interesting possibilities for cheating?&lt;p&gt;Proctoring is not a solution that I am comfortable with. I do not want to peer into the private lives of students and their home environments. Not every student is well-off, and has a private space all to their own for 3 hours.&lt;p&gt;I think taking tests from home does not really work with any of the models I have seen discussed this year. Cheating is real. It has nothing to do with rote learning. I am out of ideas which are foolproof.</text></comment>
<story><title>Students have to jump through absurd hoops to use exam monitoring software</title><url>https://www.vice.com/en/article/88anxg/students-have-to-jump-through-absurd-hoops-to-use-exam-monitoring-software</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cloud5ir</author><text>To me, this underscores notion that schools continue to test for the wrong thing. With the exception of professions&amp;#x2F;trades that require impulse application of knowledge, I don&amp;#x27;t know why I would want&amp;#x2F;need someone to memorize a concept in order to apply it. Productive members of our society&amp;#x2F;workforce think critically, they ask good questions, and they research and leverage the information at their disposal to make data-driven decisions. Let&amp;#x27;s test for that.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bllguo</author><text>while this sounds good on the surface, i think memorization is much more important than you give it credit. imo you absolutely should have key concepts memorized if you have any real understanding of a subject. and as you become more of a specialist, your bar for what constitutes a &amp;quot;key concept&amp;quot; should raise.&lt;p&gt;Being able to search things up is well and good, but dont you run into situations where you don&amp;#x27;t even know what to search for in the first place?</text></comment>