<story><title>Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong Kong protests</title><url>https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/dbqgb0/protester_shot_in_chest_by_live_police_round/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>program_whiz</author><text>Sure, the kid was swinging at the officer, and I suppose that warrants the officer acting in self-defense.  But another question is, what are the protesters supposed to do?  The government has all the power, and can simply snuff out any resistence.  If you just stand in the streets, they really don&amp;#x27;t care, they are going to take your freedom.  Imagine if the US suddenly had a dictator that just decided they were going to take all property rights and freedoms like that -- I think taking to the streets, and even resorting to violence might be necessary (otherwise the powers-that-be have no reason to listen to a bunch of people standing in a street hundreds of miles away).</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>schuke</author><text>I’m from the mainland and totally with HK’s cause. But I do think the violence is at least unnecessary if not detrimental to the movement. If tanks roll in, there’s no point using violence as they’ll be crushed. If they don’t, it seems to me there’s enough space for peaceful protests, which can be even more effectual in many ways. And the people of Hong Kong have shown an incredible amount of creativity in non-violent protests. The kid is so young he shouldn’t be involved in such violence. I hope he will make a full recovery.</text></comment>
<story><title>Protester shot in chest by live police round during Hong Kong protests</title><url>https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/dbqgb0/protester_shot_in_chest_by_live_police_round/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>program_whiz</author><text>Sure, the kid was swinging at the officer, and I suppose that warrants the officer acting in self-defense.  But another question is, what are the protesters supposed to do?  The government has all the power, and can simply snuff out any resistence.  If you just stand in the streets, they really don&amp;#x27;t care, they are going to take your freedom.  Imagine if the US suddenly had a dictator that just decided they were going to take all property rights and freedoms like that -- I think taking to the streets, and even resorting to violence might be necessary (otherwise the powers-that-be have no reason to listen to a bunch of people standing in a street hundreds of miles away).</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mc32</author><text>Obviously this is very complicated.  Protesters have rights but so do police officers —we hope both operate within the bounds of the law and then that politicians would do the work for a compromise.&lt;p&gt;But, it becomes really complicated rather fast when rights get eroded.&lt;p&gt;When the Russians were caught unprepared for war, it wasn’t “right” to send their young conscripts to war with antiquated arms against a modernized force.  But what was the alternative to certain carnage?  Supplicant carnage?  I don’t condone what the Soviets did to their own, but at the same time they had little alternative, though it was due to negligence at the highest office at the time.</text></comment>