<story><title>Apple has reached its first-ever union contract with store employees in Maryland</title><url>https://apnews.com/article/apple-union-contract-maryland-store-f9884d978bf3129c37726dd7978392a5</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Zpalmtree</author><text>[flagged]</text></item><item><author>giraffe_lady</author><text>If you were living off that money maybe you wouldn&amp;#x27;t find it so decent. Maybe you&amp;#x27;d want a union idk unless you have some non-financial reason not to that you haven&amp;#x27;t mentioned here. I trust their perception of their needs more than I trust your perception of it.</text></item><item><author>guywithahat</author><text>This is a single retail location in Maryland. There&amp;#x27;s probably a reason they let them unionize without a lot of fighting, and I&amp;#x27;m guessing it&amp;#x27;s because they will shut the store down if the union becomes a problem.&lt;p&gt;I know this site is pretty pro-union, but if I were them I would not have wanted to unionize at all. Apple has decent salaries for what it is, and it&amp;#x27;s probably cheaper to close the store than hire a McKinsey consultant to renegotiate union contracts.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>AlotOfReading</author><text>How do unions make shitty employees unfireable? From what I&amp;#x27;ve seen, collective bargaining agreements usually mandate two things:&lt;p&gt;1. Documentation of &amp;#x27;just cause&amp;#x27; for firing. Unlike standard at-will, you need a real reason to fire someone like poor performance.&lt;p&gt;2. You need to follow the specified disciplinary process.&lt;p&gt;This is just a formalized, bureaucratic version of the process that any legitimate termination for performance is going to follow anyway, so I&amp;#x27;m not sure how it&amp;#x27;s a huge change.</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple has reached its first-ever union contract with store employees in Maryland</title><url>https://apnews.com/article/apple-union-contract-maryland-store-f9884d978bf3129c37726dd7978392a5</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Zpalmtree</author><text>[flagged]</text></item><item><author>giraffe_lady</author><text>If you were living off that money maybe you wouldn&amp;#x27;t find it so decent. Maybe you&amp;#x27;d want a union idk unless you have some non-financial reason not to that you haven&amp;#x27;t mentioned here. I trust their perception of their needs more than I trust your perception of it.</text></item><item><author>guywithahat</author><text>This is a single retail location in Maryland. There&amp;#x27;s probably a reason they let them unionize without a lot of fighting, and I&amp;#x27;m guessing it&amp;#x27;s because they will shut the store down if the union becomes a problem.&lt;p&gt;I know this site is pretty pro-union, but if I were them I would not have wanted to unionize at all. Apple has decent salaries for what it is, and it&amp;#x27;s probably cheaper to close the store than hire a McKinsey consultant to renegotiate union contracts.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>margalabargala</author><text>This is like saying business owners hurt people by ignoring regulations, and governments decrease lifespan by killing their citizens. Or that internet commenters weaken society by telling lies.&lt;p&gt;These things have all happened, but they aren&amp;#x27;t inherent qualities of those actors, and the fact that some actors have done those things doesn&amp;#x27;t mean the organizational category should be discarded.</text></comment>