<story><title>What Ruined Hanna-Barbera? [video]</title><url>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWgcizAgxOs</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>egypturnash</author><text>tl;dw but I&amp;#x27;m gonna guess it comes down to &amp;quot;they sure did shit out a lot of cheap, terrible cartoons for a decade&amp;quot;. I mean seriously Joe and Bill won an Oscar or two for their lovingly-animated Tom &amp;amp; Jerry shorts at MGM but once the theatrical shorts market dried up they started making stuff with the fewest drawings humanly possible, that rested largely on voice work. &amp;quot;Illustrated radio&amp;quot; is a term that animation nerds throw around for the vast majority of their output.&lt;p&gt;Then Turner bought them I think, then WB bought Turner, and IIRC just kinda merged them into Cartoon Network because having two studios in the same city is kind of a waste or resources. Also the whole rise of sending work overseas to Asia where your dollar buys an order of more magnitude more pencil mileage; animation was at the forefront of hollowing out the American industry by substituting cheaper labor across the globe.&lt;p&gt;Or at least that&amp;#x27;s what I recall from growing up in the seventies and being in the animation industry in the nineties&amp;#x2F;00s.&lt;p&gt;People who were kids with no taste and a lot of time to fill during the time they dominated Saturday Morning have fond memories of their characters but that stuff really does not age well. It maybe ages slightly better than most Filmation work. Slightly.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>anyfoo</author><text>&amp;gt; People who were kids with no taste and a lot of time to fill&lt;p&gt;Very true. I grew up in Germany, but we got most of the cartoons that were popular in the US (plus some Japanese stuff) as well, dubbed.&lt;p&gt;One particular situation from the late 80s or early 90s that I remember was when the channel that showed the Smurfs, which I liked, was somehow repeating the same episode over and over again. Maybe there was an error at the station (I wouldn&amp;#x27;t be too surprised if nobody paid that close attention to the children&amp;#x27;s programming), or maybe I just happened to catch all the reruns in strange coincidence. It&amp;#x27;s hard to remember the specifics.&lt;p&gt;But what I do remember well is that I watched that episode, one that I actually did not like to begin with, over and over again, disliking it more and more each time. When the episode started playing and I realized that it was &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; episode &lt;i&gt;again&lt;/i&gt; within the first few seconds, I got so disheartened and disappointed. And then I continued watching it.&lt;p&gt;Nowadays, that&amp;#x27;s a pretty funny, if not somewhat bizarre, memory. As an adult, there is no way I would force myself through any show&amp;#x27;s episode that I don&amp;#x27;t like anyway repeatedly, why did I &amp;quot;have to&amp;quot; as a child? Similarly, I remember a few entire cartoons that I was not particularly fond off, or sometimes actively disliked, and I still watched those, too, &amp;quot;because that&amp;#x27;s what was on TV right now&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;Apparently, realizing that I had agency over how I spend my own entertainment time was something I had to learn better growing up.</text></comment>
<story><title>What Ruined Hanna-Barbera? [video]</title><url>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWgcizAgxOs</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>egypturnash</author><text>tl;dw but I&amp;#x27;m gonna guess it comes down to &amp;quot;they sure did shit out a lot of cheap, terrible cartoons for a decade&amp;quot;. I mean seriously Joe and Bill won an Oscar or two for their lovingly-animated Tom &amp;amp; Jerry shorts at MGM but once the theatrical shorts market dried up they started making stuff with the fewest drawings humanly possible, that rested largely on voice work. &amp;quot;Illustrated radio&amp;quot; is a term that animation nerds throw around for the vast majority of their output.&lt;p&gt;Then Turner bought them I think, then WB bought Turner, and IIRC just kinda merged them into Cartoon Network because having two studios in the same city is kind of a waste or resources. Also the whole rise of sending work overseas to Asia where your dollar buys an order of more magnitude more pencil mileage; animation was at the forefront of hollowing out the American industry by substituting cheaper labor across the globe.&lt;p&gt;Or at least that&amp;#x27;s what I recall from growing up in the seventies and being in the animation industry in the nineties&amp;#x2F;00s.&lt;p&gt;People who were kids with no taste and a lot of time to fill during the time they dominated Saturday Morning have fond memories of their characters but that stuff really does not age well. It maybe ages slightly better than most Filmation work. Slightly.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dvtrn</author><text>I have fond memories of those characters from my childhood &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; my adult hood when [adult swim] came along and gave us fresh and absurdist&amp;#x2F;adult-oriented versions of some of our favorite characters.&lt;p&gt;Space Ghost: Coast to Coast, The Brak Show, Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law, Sealab 2021, many others.</text></comment>