<story><title>Architecture astronauts take over</title><url>http://joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/05/01.html</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>raganwald</author><text>I have become sick and tired of the carping and flaming you see from some folks whenever Joel publishes a rant, accusing him of douchebaggery and all sorts of sin. The usual behaviour is that he has one great insight, a bunch of entertaining ranting, and one egocentric point. And on the basis of this, the whole thing is junk and he is a has-been windbag.&lt;p&gt;I don&apos;t go along with that sort of vilification. If a post has one great insight, something I can learn from, I&apos;m a happy man. I can chuckle at Joel complaining about competing for interns with Google as long as I&apos;mn entertained by his prose and intrigued by his central thesis.&lt;p&gt;I would have loved this post on that basis.&lt;p&gt;Except.&lt;p&gt;WTF is with the dig at playing Ultimate? Joel, you have &lt;i&gt;totally lost it this time&lt;/i&gt;. Ultimate is the ultimate nerd sport, and interns who play Ultimate are your &lt;i&gt;best hires ever&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;Ultimate involves complex plays involving team co-ordination. A skill that just might come in handy working on a software development team. The flight of the disc is the kind of thing the mathematical mind drools over--gyroscopic procession, ballistics, aerodynamics, everything comes in to play.&lt;p&gt;Ultimate players are healthy and I&apos;ll wager can crank code for long hours compared to those who eschew aerobic sports in favour of foosball.&lt;p&gt;And for those who are still single... Ultimate is a great place to meet people of every gender and orientation. Which leads to cohabitation, the purchase of homes, large mortgages, and a slavish devotion to working your ass off to earn a fat bonus.&lt;p&gt;Joel, I wanted to like this post, I really did. But you have &lt;i&gt;got&lt;/i&gt; to stop making insanely wrong pronouncements about things that matter most.&lt;p&gt;Like which games interns ought to play ;-)</text></comment>
<story><title>Architecture astronauts take over</title><url>http://joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/05/01.html</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>watmough</author><text>That is absolutely vintage Joel. And he&apos;s right.&lt;p&gt;Ray Ozzie and the rest of MS should have realized by now that the only thing that really works is building something. Give us something to criticize. Look at YUI. It&apos;s not great in places, but at least it works, and it there, and available to play with, and fun, and cross-platform.&lt;p&gt;It&apos;s coming to something when the most interesting thing out of MS is probably F#, and Photosynth. Aren&apos;t these from MSR?&lt;p&gt;What is the rest of MS doing?&lt;p&gt;[Personally I&apos;d be glad if they finally got round to fixing all the damn non-resizable dialogs in their apps, which infest all MS software like cockroaches.]</text></comment>