<story><title>Microsoft won&apos;t let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/8/23952878/microsoft-onedrive-windows-close-app-notification</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>kimixa</author><text>The onedrive integration is one of the most annoying things about windows for me right now. Not just the constant nagging, nor the &amp;quot;Adverts&amp;quot; pasted over my computer, but one day I woke up and something had decided to move all my documents to a new &amp;quot;onedrive&amp;quot; folder, despite never signing up for anything. (Or at least &amp;quot;asked me&amp;quot; in some super easy to miss clickthrough)&lt;p&gt;This naturally broke a stack of apps and scripts,and my expectations. And as explorer seems to do some magic to make it &amp;#x2F;look&amp;#x2F; like everything is in the same place, but then causes inconsistency with other ways of accessing folders, breaks decades of learned experience on how the model of files and folders work.&lt;p&gt;And this was still on windows 10 - at least if there&amp;#x27;s an upgrade migration you &amp;#x2F;expect&amp;#x2F; some things to work a bit differently, and then have the option of not upgrading if that behavior is important. But what&amp;#x27;s the point of having &amp;quot;versions&amp;quot; if you just backport all the breaking changes anyway?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jiggawatts</author><text>Worse still, I have a BYoD laptop that I own myself but use for work. If you &lt;i&gt;accidentally&lt;/i&gt; click the wrong (BIG!) button instead of the correct (&lt;i&gt;tiny!&lt;/i&gt;) link during authentication then... &lt;i&gt;SURPRISE&lt;/i&gt;... you are now enrolled into mobile device management (InTune). One of the most common policies is to force home directory migration to OneDrive.&lt;p&gt;Imagine my surprise when I get an automated email from a &lt;i&gt;customer&lt;/i&gt; Microsoft 365 tenant saying that I had shared content that violates their corporate policy.&lt;p&gt;No I hadn&amp;#x27;t.&lt;p&gt;Microsoft did. They hoovered up my content, shoved it into the customer&amp;#x27;s OneDrive, and then applied data loss prevention (DLP) policy. You know... to stop people sharing things through OneDrive they shouldn&amp;#x27;t be.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s just unfathomable to me that we&amp;#x27;ve all just rolled over and accepted this as normal. Literal dark patterns by every definition of the term designed to coerce and trick everyone in the world to store their data in Microsoft&amp;#x27;s cloud whether they choose to or not.&lt;p&gt;Secrets. Passwords. Source code. Classified documents. Private pictures of my family. Pictures of my &lt;i&gt;naked children&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sluuuuurp!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Got to meet those KPIs at &lt;i&gt;any cost&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;If anyone from Microsoft is lurking in this thread: THIS is how megacorporations end. This. You take a giant shit on your evangelists, your technical experts, then they&amp;#x27;ll jump ship. The other 99% of users don&amp;#x27;t matter. They really don&amp;#x27;t. They&amp;#x27;ll follow where the 1% go. This has played out over and over. It destroyed Digg. It destroyed Slashdot. It destroyed IBM. It will destroy Microsoft in time.&lt;p&gt;PS: Because of this incident I now refuse to store anything in any of the pre-defined folders like &amp;quot;Documents&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Pictures&amp;quot;. I keep everything in a separate folder hierarchy outside of my user profile because I can no longer trust my own personal computer to keep files where I put them.</text></comment>
<story><title>Microsoft won&apos;t let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/8/23952878/microsoft-onedrive-windows-close-app-notification</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>kimixa</author><text>The onedrive integration is one of the most annoying things about windows for me right now. Not just the constant nagging, nor the &amp;quot;Adverts&amp;quot; pasted over my computer, but one day I woke up and something had decided to move all my documents to a new &amp;quot;onedrive&amp;quot; folder, despite never signing up for anything. (Or at least &amp;quot;asked me&amp;quot; in some super easy to miss clickthrough)&lt;p&gt;This naturally broke a stack of apps and scripts,and my expectations. And as explorer seems to do some magic to make it &amp;#x2F;look&amp;#x2F; like everything is in the same place, but then causes inconsistency with other ways of accessing folders, breaks decades of learned experience on how the model of files and folders work.&lt;p&gt;And this was still on windows 10 - at least if there&amp;#x27;s an upgrade migration you &amp;#x2F;expect&amp;#x2F; some things to work a bit differently, and then have the option of not upgrading if that behavior is important. But what&amp;#x27;s the point of having &amp;quot;versions&amp;quot; if you just backport all the breaking changes anyway?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>_Algernon_</author><text>Breaking users&amp;#x27; models of how a system works seems to be the playbook almost every software product these days. I hate it.&lt;p&gt;Software developers &amp;#x2F; designers do not respect or value users&amp;#x27; muscle memory they spent half a lifetime developing at all. Even in products which ostensibly do want their users to develop expertise without being advertisement driven, such as Excel, Powerpoint or Word. Imagine if cars worked the same way: Every time you bought a new car, the steering wheel, pedals and so on are shuffled around because &amp;quot;users learn to drive 0.01% faster according to a AB-tests&amp;quot; or whatever. Fuck everyone who already got their license I guess.</text></comment>