<story><title>Snowden: The arrest of Durov is an assault on the basic human rights</title><url>https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1827695836832334169</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>OutOfHere</author><text>What you&amp;#x27;re saying in effect is that any random country should be able to subpoena records for anyone. To be logically consistent, what if say Iran wants the records of the head of the CIA? The concern is not limited to Telegram; it generalizes to any messaging app.</text></item><item><author>nabla9</author><text>Everyone must cooperate when they receive legal warrants and subpoenas. That&amp;#x27;s normal police work.&lt;p&gt;There is the right way and the wrong way.&lt;p&gt;Wrong way: Telegram keeps records and  refuses to cooperate. Telegram faces consequences.&lt;p&gt;Right way: Signal  cooperates. They give two Unix timestamps. One for when the account was created and the date the account last connected to the Signal service.  &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;signal.org&amp;#x2F;bigbrother&amp;#x2F;cd-california-grand-jury&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;signal.org&amp;#x2F;bigbrother&amp;#x2F;cd-california-grand-jury&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;   See also: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;signal.org&amp;#x2F;bigbrother&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;signal.org&amp;#x2F;bigbrother&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>lovethevoid</author><text>There is no logical inconsistency here. Durov, a citizen of France, failed to comply with their own country&amp;#x27;s process. This isn&amp;#x27;t a &amp;quot;random country&amp;quot; applied &amp;quot;for anyone&amp;quot;.</text></comment>
<story><title>Snowden: The arrest of Durov is an assault on the basic human rights</title><url>https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1827695836832334169</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>OutOfHere</author><text>What you&amp;#x27;re saying in effect is that any random country should be able to subpoena records for anyone. To be logically consistent, what if say Iran wants the records of the head of the CIA? The concern is not limited to Telegram; it generalizes to any messaging app.</text></item><item><author>nabla9</author><text>Everyone must cooperate when they receive legal warrants and subpoenas. That&amp;#x27;s normal police work.&lt;p&gt;There is the right way and the wrong way.&lt;p&gt;Wrong way: Telegram keeps records and  refuses to cooperate. Telegram faces consequences.&lt;p&gt;Right way: Signal  cooperates. They give two Unix timestamps. One for when the account was created and the date the account last connected to the Signal service.  &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;signal.org&amp;#x2F;bigbrother&amp;#x2F;cd-california-grand-jury&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;signal.org&amp;#x2F;bigbrother&amp;#x2F;cd-california-grand-jury&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;   See also: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;signal.org&amp;#x2F;bigbrother&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;signal.org&amp;#x2F;bigbrother&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>JumpCrisscross</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;What you&amp;#x27;re saying in effect is that any random country should be able to subpoena records for anyone&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Durov is a French citizen. He was arrested in France. This isn&amp;#x27;t a Kim Dotcom situation.</text></comment>