<story><title>Delta flight lands in Charlotte without front landing gear</title><url>https://www.wbtv.com/2023/06/28/plane-lands-charlotte-douglas-international-airport-after-dealing-with-mechanical-issues/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ipnon</author><text>There is an algorithm for everything in aviation. If you suspect your landing gear is not functional, you typically fly by a tower and have them make visual confirmation. Then you have another algorithm (they call them procedures) for how to land without gear. The airport likewise has a checklist of everything to do in this case. All of these procedures are hard won, the NTSB uses every hull failure and fatal accident to analyze what went wrong and how to create a better procedure.</text></item><item><author>Tepix</author><text>Did they know in advance that they were having problems?&lt;p&gt;Edit:&lt;p&gt;Answer: Yes&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;... the crew initiated a go around due to a unsafe nose gear indication, climbed to 4000 feet and entered a hold to work the checklists. After working the checklists the crew declared emergency and requested emergency services on stand by. The aircraft performed a low approach to runway 36L, positioned for another approach to runway 36L and landed without nose gear extended at 08:54L (12:54Z) about 12 minutes after the second go around and about 30 minutes after the first go around.&lt;/i&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>EMM_386</author><text>&amp;gt; There is an algorithm for everything in aviation&lt;p&gt;This is how I got my commercial pilot&amp;#x27;s license, and I&amp;#x27;m a senior software engineer.&lt;p&gt;It just &amp;quot;clicked&amp;quot; with my brain to follow specific procedures (&amp;quot;algorithms&amp;quot;) for absolutely everything.  Checklists, strict rules, &amp;quot;flows&amp;quot;, handling emergencies.  It all felt natural to me.&lt;p&gt;They will throw random stuff at you during checkrides.  Pull the power back on one of the engines right after takeoff saying it failed, fail instruments that you were using to navigate, blindfold you (&amp;quot;foggles&amp;quot;) and put you almost upside down and then say &amp;quot;recover!&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;But you have everything so ingrained in your mind by that point that it&amp;#x27;s almost robotic.  You just look at the inputs (almost upside down, engine #2 is gone, no attitude indicator, whatever it is) and know what the output is supposed to be (roll to unload Gs, lower the nose, full power, check the standby AI, etc).&lt;p&gt;I happen to work well when there are strict rules and procedures.  If this, then that.</text></comment>
<story><title>Delta flight lands in Charlotte without front landing gear</title><url>https://www.wbtv.com/2023/06/28/plane-lands-charlotte-douglas-international-airport-after-dealing-with-mechanical-issues/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ipnon</author><text>There is an algorithm for everything in aviation. If you suspect your landing gear is not functional, you typically fly by a tower and have them make visual confirmation. Then you have another algorithm (they call them procedures) for how to land without gear. The airport likewise has a checklist of everything to do in this case. All of these procedures are hard won, the NTSB uses every hull failure and fatal accident to analyze what went wrong and how to create a better procedure.</text></item><item><author>Tepix</author><text>Did they know in advance that they were having problems?&lt;p&gt;Edit:&lt;p&gt;Answer: Yes&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;... the crew initiated a go around due to a unsafe nose gear indication, climbed to 4000 feet and entered a hold to work the checklists. After working the checklists the crew declared emergency and requested emergency services on stand by. The aircraft performed a low approach to runway 36L, positioned for another approach to runway 36L and landed without nose gear extended at 08:54L (12:54Z) about 12 minutes after the second go around and about 30 minutes after the first go around.&lt;/i&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ryandrake</author><text>And when there is not a tower nearby, you, uhh... find a way. My buddy was flying into one of the many uncontrolled airports in NorCal, and there was a guy in a single-engine retractable gear circling the airport. When Buddy made his downwind call, the Guy radioed &amp;quot;Hey I&amp;#x27;m not getting any indication whether my gear is down or not, can you fly by me and tell me if it&amp;#x27;s down?&amp;quot; It was down, so Guy ended up attempting the landing with a bit more confidence than he started out with.</text></comment>