<story><title>macOS 15.0 supports Nested Virtualization on M3 chips</title><url>https://developer.apple.com/documentation/virtualization/vzgenericplatformconfiguration/4360553-isnestedvirtualizationsupported</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tgv</author><text>And what would you do with an ipad running linux? There&amp;#x27;s no tablet software.&lt;p&gt;May sound harsh, but the Open Source movement is just not capable of producing enough software to make Linux a viable on the desktop, let alone on the tablet.</text></item><item><author>walterbell</author><text>There has not yet been a tablet that was commercially competitive with iPad, measured by sales volume&amp;#x2F;revenue.&lt;p&gt;Perhaps a future PC OEM 2-in-1 will be successful, based on Qualcomm Oryon&amp;#x2F;Arm SoC from ex-Apple Nuvia.&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;gt; software updates are way longer&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s no &amp;quot;longer&amp;quot; for comparison, when there is no competitor.&lt;p&gt;Old iPads could continue to work for years, running Linux.  Apple could unlock the boot after terminating support.</text></item><item><author>mirzap</author><text>What eWaste are you talking about? The lifetime, battery life, and software updates are way longer than those of any other tablet on the market. iPads are not a replacement for Macbooks or PCs; let it be the iPad.</text></item><item><author>walterbell</author><text>At this point, only the EU can save the iPad from being eWaste World Champion.&lt;p&gt;Mandate support for alternate OSes, like Asahi Linux on Macbook, &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;AsahiLinux&amp;#x2F;docs&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Apple-Platform-Security-Crash-Course&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;AsahiLinux&amp;#x2F;docs&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Apple-Platform-Secur...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;gt; ipadOS not even one layer of Mac virtualization&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;iPadOS 17 on M4 has a &amp;quot;Secure Exclave&amp;quot; OS, &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mastodon.social&amp;#x2F;@_inside&amp;#x2F;112440596781136013&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mastodon.social&amp;#x2F;@_inside&amp;#x2F;112440596781136013&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>whatever1</author><text>And ipadOS not even one layer of Mac virtualization</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>amtamt</author><text>Linux became a thing because computing devices were available for development.
I guess if enough Ipad hardware is available without too much black magic, there could be a stack viable based on linux or some other OS (possibly not yet created)</text></comment>
<story><title>macOS 15.0 supports Nested Virtualization on M3 chips</title><url>https://developer.apple.com/documentation/virtualization/vzgenericplatformconfiguration/4360553-isnestedvirtualizationsupported</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tgv</author><text>And what would you do with an ipad running linux? There&amp;#x27;s no tablet software.&lt;p&gt;May sound harsh, but the Open Source movement is just not capable of producing enough software to make Linux a viable on the desktop, let alone on the tablet.</text></item><item><author>walterbell</author><text>There has not yet been a tablet that was commercially competitive with iPad, measured by sales volume&amp;#x2F;revenue.&lt;p&gt;Perhaps a future PC OEM 2-in-1 will be successful, based on Qualcomm Oryon&amp;#x2F;Arm SoC from ex-Apple Nuvia.&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;gt; software updates are way longer&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s no &amp;quot;longer&amp;quot; for comparison, when there is no competitor.&lt;p&gt;Old iPads could continue to work for years, running Linux.  Apple could unlock the boot after terminating support.</text></item><item><author>mirzap</author><text>What eWaste are you talking about? The lifetime, battery life, and software updates are way longer than those of any other tablet on the market. iPads are not a replacement for Macbooks or PCs; let it be the iPad.</text></item><item><author>walterbell</author><text>At this point, only the EU can save the iPad from being eWaste World Champion.&lt;p&gt;Mandate support for alternate OSes, like Asahi Linux on Macbook, &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;AsahiLinux&amp;#x2F;docs&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Apple-Platform-Security-Crash-Course&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;AsahiLinux&amp;#x2F;docs&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Apple-Platform-Secur...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;gt; ipadOS not even one layer of Mac virtualization&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;iPadOS 17 on M4 has a &amp;quot;Secure Exclave&amp;quot; OS, &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mastodon.social&amp;#x2F;@_inside&amp;#x2F;112440596781136013&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mastodon.social&amp;#x2F;@_inside&amp;#x2F;112440596781136013&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>whatever1</author><text>And ipadOS not even one layer of Mac virtualization</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>hagbard_c</author><text>Linux has been &amp;#x27;ready for the desktop&amp;#x27; for more than a decade, far longer for those who use it &amp;#x27;professionally&amp;#x27; so that old trope can be put to pasture. As to what to run on a Linux tablet there&amp;#x27;s Plasma Mobile (KDE), Ubuntu Touch, Gnome&amp;#x2F;Phosh, PostmarketOS with any of the above and more. If you&amp;#x27;re looking for a single &amp;#x27;Linux tablet interface&amp;#x27; you won&amp;#x27;t find it as there is no single &amp;#x27;Linux $thing&amp;#x27; anywhere - you get the choice between many alternatives, some more polished&amp;#x2F;functional&amp;#x2F;useable than others.</text></comment>