<story><title>Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records tell a different story</title><url>https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/marc-andreessens-opposition-housing-project-nimby/671061/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>m_ke</author><text>As a New Yorker driving around middle america is super depressing. I can&amp;#x27;t imagine growing up trapped in my own home on a street with no sidewalks, only being able to go where my parents take me and finally growing into driving age so that I can go from parking lot to parking lot.</text></item><item><author>pj_mukh</author><text>Honestly, having had lived in mixed-income neighborhoods, the wealthy are missing out. Dense mixed-income neighborhoods, pockets of which are holding on for dear life in parts of New York for example, are an absolute delight.&lt;p&gt;We need to find a way to rebrand the American dream to be this.</text></item><item><author>Tiktaalik</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not terribly surprised. In my experience the calls for more housing from the wealthy and business class are disingenuous; more often really a call for more apartments to be built exclusively in neighbourhoods dominated by the poor and working class and a continued ban of apartments in the low density single family home areas that the wealthy business owning class live in.&lt;p&gt;Often this is called the &amp;quot;Grand Bargain,&amp;quot; that new housing can be allowed, but only if it is constrained to a tiny area (which becomes increasingly dense), while the bulk of single family homes are left untouched.&lt;p&gt;The challenge for voters is to discern between those that are calling for more housing that are genuine YIMBYs, that want to build more housing for everyone more equitably, everywhere in all neighbourhoods, and those like Andreessen, which merely want to continue on with Grand Bargain thinking, and want to continue the status quo by which the poors live as far as possible away from him.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>smt88</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve lived in rural, suburban (McMansion-dominated), and urban parts of the US, including NYC. I grew up in a semi-rural place.&lt;p&gt;NYC was by far the most depressing and soul-crushing for me. It&amp;#x27;s lonely despite being crowded, it&amp;#x27;s filthy, it&amp;#x27;s unreasonably expensive, it&amp;#x27;s hard to get anywhere, and it&amp;#x27;s unfortunately full of people with a similarly condescending viewpoint about people&amp;#x2F;places outside the city.&lt;p&gt;I now live in a large southern city with lots of sidewalks and love it, and returning to New York makes me incredibly sad for the people who still think it&amp;#x27;s the only city to live in.&lt;p&gt;My point is not that I&amp;#x27;m correct. It&amp;#x27;s just how I feel. Rather, I suggest you examine how you talk about your viewpoint to avoid sounding so confident about things you have no actual experience in.</text></comment>
<story><title>Marc Andreessen says he’s for new housing, but records tell a different story</title><url>https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/marc-andreessens-opposition-housing-project-nimby/671061/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>m_ke</author><text>As a New Yorker driving around middle america is super depressing. I can&amp;#x27;t imagine growing up trapped in my own home on a street with no sidewalks, only being able to go where my parents take me and finally growing into driving age so that I can go from parking lot to parking lot.</text></item><item><author>pj_mukh</author><text>Honestly, having had lived in mixed-income neighborhoods, the wealthy are missing out. Dense mixed-income neighborhoods, pockets of which are holding on for dear life in parts of New York for example, are an absolute delight.&lt;p&gt;We need to find a way to rebrand the American dream to be this.</text></item><item><author>Tiktaalik</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not terribly surprised. In my experience the calls for more housing from the wealthy and business class are disingenuous; more often really a call for more apartments to be built exclusively in neighbourhoods dominated by the poor and working class and a continued ban of apartments in the low density single family home areas that the wealthy business owning class live in.&lt;p&gt;Often this is called the &amp;quot;Grand Bargain,&amp;quot; that new housing can be allowed, but only if it is constrained to a tiny area (which becomes increasingly dense), while the bulk of single family homes are left untouched.&lt;p&gt;The challenge for voters is to discern between those that are calling for more housing that are genuine YIMBYs, that want to build more housing for everyone more equitably, everywhere in all neighbourhoods, and those like Andreessen, which merely want to continue on with Grand Bargain thinking, and want to continue the status quo by which the poors live as far as possible away from him.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>qwerpy</author><text>As a current Seattleite who grew up in middle America biking around as a kid anywhere I wanted, I have the opposite feeling. I thought it was great! Maybe it’s more about the person than it is the location.</text></comment>