<story><title>Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”</title><url>http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/12/are-you-robot-introducing-no-captcha.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mjt0229</author><text>DDG is excellent most of the time, but way behind when doing video or map searches. I have it as my default in most places, but sometimes I just have to fall back to Google.</text></item><item><author>robertfw</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;https://duckduckgo.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;duckduckgo.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>jotm</author><text>Saying &amp;quot;just don&amp;#x27;t use Google&amp;#x2F;Bing&amp;#x2F;search engines&amp;quot; is like saying &amp;quot;don&amp;#x27;t use the airlines&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;The security checks suck big time, but really, these services are must-have and there is no better alternative.&lt;p&gt;Complaining and hoping for some change is all that&amp;#x27;s left.</text></item><item><author>xtracto</author><text>&amp;gt; and it&amp;#x27;s frankly very insulting and rather disturbing that they think someone who inputs &amp;quot;unusual&amp;quot; search queries, according to their measure, is not human.&lt;p&gt;Insulting? how is that insulting? You are entitled. You are entitled you block scripts, use Google&amp;#x27;s FREE service to perform any search query to search the web while blocking any program that attempts to identify you as not a bot.&lt;p&gt;But if while using their free service they cannot identify you as a human given the factors they measure(becuase you actively disabled the programs that measure such factors), then I see nothing wrong in them trying alternative ways (which were a standard before).&lt;p&gt;I think you are making a storm in a teacup. If you feel offended by the way their website work, just don&amp;#x27;t use them.  I don&amp;#x27;t see any red flags at all.</text></item><item><author>userbinator</author><text>&amp;quot;If we can collect behavioural data from you, and it matches closely the behaviour of other humans, you are a human. Otherwise you&amp;#x27;re not a human.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Does anyone else get that feeling from the description of what Google is doing? I&amp;#x27;ve tripped their &amp;quot;we think you are a bot&amp;quot; detection filter and been presented with a captcha countless times while using complex search queries and searching for relatively obscure things, and it&amp;#x27;s frankly very insulting and rather disturbing that they think someone who inputs &amp;quot;unusual&amp;quot; search queries, according to their measure, is not human. I have JS and cookies disabled so they definitely cannot track my mouse movements and I can&amp;#x27;t use this way of verifying &amp;quot;humanness&amp;quot;, but what if they get rid of the regular captchas completely (based on the argument that eventually the only ones who will make use of and solve them are bots)? Then they&amp;#x27;ll basically be saying &amp;quot;you are a human only if you have a browser that supports these features, behave in this way, and act like every other human who does.&amp;quot; The fact that Google is attempting to define and thus strongly normalise what is human behaviour is definitely a big red flag to me.&lt;p&gt;(Or maybe I&amp;#x27;m really a bot, just an extremely intelligent one. :-)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>firloop</author><text>Agreed. Additionally, DDG is useless when searching for current news events. Google is great at flowing in headlines for recent events with searches, which often leads me to include the &amp;quot;!g&amp;quot; bang if searching for a recent issue&amp;#x2F;store.</text></comment>
<story><title>Are You a Robot? Introducing “No CAPTCHA ReCAPTCHA”</title><url>http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/12/are-you-robot-introducing-no-captcha.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mjt0229</author><text>DDG is excellent most of the time, but way behind when doing video or map searches. I have it as my default in most places, but sometimes I just have to fall back to Google.</text></item><item><author>robertfw</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;https://duckduckgo.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;duckduckgo.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>jotm</author><text>Saying &amp;quot;just don&amp;#x27;t use Google&amp;#x2F;Bing&amp;#x2F;search engines&amp;quot; is like saying &amp;quot;don&amp;#x27;t use the airlines&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;The security checks suck big time, but really, these services are must-have and there is no better alternative.&lt;p&gt;Complaining and hoping for some change is all that&amp;#x27;s left.</text></item><item><author>xtracto</author><text>&amp;gt; and it&amp;#x27;s frankly very insulting and rather disturbing that they think someone who inputs &amp;quot;unusual&amp;quot; search queries, according to their measure, is not human.&lt;p&gt;Insulting? how is that insulting? You are entitled. You are entitled you block scripts, use Google&amp;#x27;s FREE service to perform any search query to search the web while blocking any program that attempts to identify you as not a bot.&lt;p&gt;But if while using their free service they cannot identify you as a human given the factors they measure(becuase you actively disabled the programs that measure such factors), then I see nothing wrong in them trying alternative ways (which were a standard before).&lt;p&gt;I think you are making a storm in a teacup. If you feel offended by the way their website work, just don&amp;#x27;t use them.  I don&amp;#x27;t see any red flags at all.</text></item><item><author>userbinator</author><text>&amp;quot;If we can collect behavioural data from you, and it matches closely the behaviour of other humans, you are a human. Otherwise you&amp;#x27;re not a human.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Does anyone else get that feeling from the description of what Google is doing? I&amp;#x27;ve tripped their &amp;quot;we think you are a bot&amp;quot; detection filter and been presented with a captcha countless times while using complex search queries and searching for relatively obscure things, and it&amp;#x27;s frankly very insulting and rather disturbing that they think someone who inputs &amp;quot;unusual&amp;quot; search queries, according to their measure, is not human. I have JS and cookies disabled so they definitely cannot track my mouse movements and I can&amp;#x27;t use this way of verifying &amp;quot;humanness&amp;quot;, but what if they get rid of the regular captchas completely (based on the argument that eventually the only ones who will make use of and solve them are bots)? Then they&amp;#x27;ll basically be saying &amp;quot;you are a human only if you have a browser that supports these features, behave in this way, and act like every other human who does.&amp;quot; The fact that Google is attempting to define and thus strongly normalise what is human behaviour is definitely a big red flag to me.&lt;p&gt;(Or maybe I&amp;#x27;m really a bot, just an extremely intelligent one. :-)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mod</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t disagree, but it did trump the point of the comment it replied to.&lt;p&gt;DDG will get the job done.</text></comment>