<story><title>Material UI</title><url>http://material-ui.com/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tomelders</author><text>I had a talk with myself at the weekend about making a concerted effort to cut out the snark when I comment on the web.... And I&amp;#x27;m about to fall at the first hurdle.&lt;p&gt;Being &amp;quot;on trend&amp;quot; isn&amp;#x27;t good UI design. But I can see how we got here. Through OS X and iOS, Apple&amp;#x27;s UI ethos became the gold standard in UI design. It was so well designed that it was easy to imitate and by simply adopting the core elements of Apples UI language, stuff became intuitive and usable without the designer needing to understand &amp;quot;why&amp;quot; something looked the way it looked.&lt;p&gt;And then came a new trend, the current trend, that appears to me to be rooted in nothing more substantial than a desire to replace the old with something new at all costs. And when the likes of Apple and Google fall for the same trap, it&amp;#x27;s nigh on impossible for fundamental UI design knowledge to make itself heard above the noise of a million designers advocating the new and pointing to Apple for credibility.&lt;p&gt;You can see that I don&amp;#x27;t like Material. I also don&amp;#x27;t like iOs&amp;#x27;s new UI language. It doesn&amp;#x27;t work. Ive seen no evidence that it&amp;#x27;s any more useable and I struggle everyday to make sense of software and tools that have adopted these new trends so anecdotally, I have to say to myself that we&amp;#x27;re going the wrong way.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>orbifold</author><text>The current trend is rooted in the fact that computer displays approach the visual fidelity of paper prints by now (&amp;gt; 300dpi). Consequently a more print like design language is adopted, which often features a small selection of colours and simple geometric shapes.&lt;p&gt;The large variety in print design demonstrates that this is not an unreasonable restriction. In my eyes the translucency of windows in Yosemite is a much nicer choice than &amp;quot;brushed aluminium&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;black with fake highlights&amp;quot;, it does not pretend to be something it is not. Eventually I would prefer if the &amp;quot;Desktop&amp;quot; metaphor, including &amp;quot;Folders&amp;quot;, was given up and replaced with something different. The faster the design language becomes more abstract to facilitate that change, the better. We are stuck with an overall UI design initially conceived in the 70s, alternative versions of personal computing like the Lisp Machine died unfortunately.</text></comment>
<story><title>Material UI</title><url>http://material-ui.com/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tomelders</author><text>I had a talk with myself at the weekend about making a concerted effort to cut out the snark when I comment on the web.... And I&amp;#x27;m about to fall at the first hurdle.&lt;p&gt;Being &amp;quot;on trend&amp;quot; isn&amp;#x27;t good UI design. But I can see how we got here. Through OS X and iOS, Apple&amp;#x27;s UI ethos became the gold standard in UI design. It was so well designed that it was easy to imitate and by simply adopting the core elements of Apples UI language, stuff became intuitive and usable without the designer needing to understand &amp;quot;why&amp;quot; something looked the way it looked.&lt;p&gt;And then came a new trend, the current trend, that appears to me to be rooted in nothing more substantial than a desire to replace the old with something new at all costs. And when the likes of Apple and Google fall for the same trap, it&amp;#x27;s nigh on impossible for fundamental UI design knowledge to make itself heard above the noise of a million designers advocating the new and pointing to Apple for credibility.&lt;p&gt;You can see that I don&amp;#x27;t like Material. I also don&amp;#x27;t like iOs&amp;#x27;s new UI language. It doesn&amp;#x27;t work. Ive seen no evidence that it&amp;#x27;s any more useable and I struggle everyday to make sense of software and tools that have adopted these new trends so anecdotally, I have to say to myself that we&amp;#x27;re going the wrong way.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>igravious</author><text>I see no snark on display. I also see no arguments or reasons on display to support your position.&lt;p&gt;That is to say:&lt;p&gt;1) I can see that you don&amp;#x27;t like Material but _why_ do you not like it? Because it&amp;#x27;s new is not a reason because it can be both new _and_ adhere to tried and tested design principles, put forward new ideas for consideration, and be aesthetically pleasing&lt;p&gt;2) Why don&amp;#x27;t you like iOS&amp;#x27;s new UI language?</text></comment>