<story><title>Spain Runs Out of Workers with Almost 5M Unemployed</title><url>http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-01/spain-is-running-out-of-workers-with-almost-5-million-unemployed</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>charlesdm</author><text>Have you considered working remotely for a US company? I know a guy making €7 or 8,000 per month, after tax, living in Paris. Best of both worlds: amazing quality of living, cheap cost of living + healthcare, lots of spending (or investing) money! Seems to be working well for him.</text></item><item><author>vemv</author><text>Spanish dev here, 3 years in the business, been twice a freelancer and twice an employee. My main complaints:&lt;p&gt;- The maximum salary a developer can earn at any given company is almost written in stone - around 36000 euros. Every public job posting will have that figure as the max. When it&amp;#x27;s higher, they&amp;#x27;ll water it down in the interview.&lt;p&gt;Why? Probably because they don&amp;#x27;t have the notion of a 10x programmer at all. We all are perceived as &amp;#x27;equal&amp;#x27; or even replaceable.&lt;p&gt;- Also, companies are scared of the mere possibility of their programmers leaving. The sole hint of that you may leave will turn their red alarms on, and they&amp;#x27;ll start searching a replacement.&lt;p&gt;There rarely exists here the mentality that a work relationship is a commercial exchange, not an intimate family-like relationship. Being open to the market is not &amp;#x27;treason&amp;#x27;.&lt;p&gt;- Tech stacks tend to be years behind San Francisco, whether is languages, frameworks, ops practices...&lt;p&gt;- Functional programming opportunities extremely scarce. Elixir is gaining traction here though.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>hibikir</author><text>Amazing remote jobs exist: I have one. The problem is to find a company that has those remote jobs AND will hire people they don&amp;#x27;t have a huge background on.&lt;p&gt;I know a recruiter at a company like that that worked on a point system: Barring a recommendation, to pass his bar you had to have 5 years of experience in the industry for what he considered a major tech company, a degree from a top university, and a history of promotions during those years.&lt;p&gt;So he is fine with hiring all over the world, as long as you had already worked at trendy Silicon Valley companies for a while (In practice, using them as a recruiting filter). So, for all intents and purposes, the only people passing that bar would be people that already had a great job. Someone with talent but without pedigree would not even get an interview.</text></comment>
<story><title>Spain Runs Out of Workers with Almost 5M Unemployed</title><url>http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-01/spain-is-running-out-of-workers-with-almost-5-million-unemployed</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>charlesdm</author><text>Have you considered working remotely for a US company? I know a guy making €7 or 8,000 per month, after tax, living in Paris. Best of both worlds: amazing quality of living, cheap cost of living + healthcare, lots of spending (or investing) money! Seems to be working well for him.</text></item><item><author>vemv</author><text>Spanish dev here, 3 years in the business, been twice a freelancer and twice an employee. My main complaints:&lt;p&gt;- The maximum salary a developer can earn at any given company is almost written in stone - around 36000 euros. Every public job posting will have that figure as the max. When it&amp;#x27;s higher, they&amp;#x27;ll water it down in the interview.&lt;p&gt;Why? Probably because they don&amp;#x27;t have the notion of a 10x programmer at all. We all are perceived as &amp;#x27;equal&amp;#x27; or even replaceable.&lt;p&gt;- Also, companies are scared of the mere possibility of their programmers leaving. The sole hint of that you may leave will turn their red alarms on, and they&amp;#x27;ll start searching a replacement.&lt;p&gt;There rarely exists here the mentality that a work relationship is a commercial exchange, not an intimate family-like relationship. Being open to the market is not &amp;#x27;treason&amp;#x27;.&lt;p&gt;- Tech stacks tend to be years behind San Francisco, whether is languages, frameworks, ops practices...&lt;p&gt;- Functional programming opportunities extremely scarce. Elixir is gaining traction here though.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>vemv</author><text>Thanks for the reminder! Of course from time to time I consider the possibility. There&amp;#x27;s no particular reason why I don&amp;#x27;t give it a shot, other than the global competition for US remote gigs.&lt;p&gt;Probably it&amp;#x27;s easier when you specialise in a niche language - which I&amp;#x27;m doing lately!</text></comment>