<story><title>US elections remain &apos;dangerously vulnerable&apos; to cyber-attacks</title><url>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/13/us-election-cybersecurity-hacking-voting</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>umanwizard</author><text>Friendly reminder: electronic voting is totally unnecessary. Many highly developed democracies (e.g. France) have totally paper voting where the ballots never leave the public eye.&lt;p&gt;If the past is any indication, there will almost certainly be a lot of comments on this article proposing complicated schemes for making electronic voting secure and verifiable. Consider when evaluating these schemes whether there is any benefit or upside at all over good old fashioned unhackable paper.</text></comment>
<story><title>US elections remain &apos;dangerously vulnerable&apos; to cyber-attacks</title><url>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/13/us-election-cybersecurity-hacking-voting</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>MichaelApproved</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s insane that we have systems using 100% electric vote counting.&lt;p&gt;Any system, even 100% paper ballots, are hackable. They key is making the hack difficult to scale.&lt;p&gt;Computer systems are easy to hack from a distance and in large numbers. Theoretically, one person could hack many devices from another country.&lt;p&gt;Paper ballots require someone to change&amp;#x2F;stuff in person. One person can do limited damage and would have to be in the country. You&amp;#x27;d need to recruit large numbers for an effective operation.&lt;p&gt;Electric assistance is fine but ultimately you need a paper result that a human can read.&lt;p&gt;A computer can help you make selections and fill out the ballot but the voter must be able to read the printed result and confirm their vote was properly printed.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d be against any computer counting for the initial count. Manual is slower and expensive but it&amp;#x27;s worth the added cost to have a more secure voting system.</text></comment>