<story><title>Insurers Know How Often American Drivers Touch Their Phones</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-29/insurers-know-exactly-how-often-american-drivers-touch-their-phones</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mikepurvis</author><text>We already have regulations. It&amp;#x27;s not working.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m perfectly content for a phone to detect via GPS&amp;#x2F;IMU that it&amp;#x27;s in a moving vehicle and send up a big angry prompt like &amp;quot;Please confirm that you are a passenger and not driving this vehicle. Phone interactions are being logged and will be available to law enforcement if a collision occurs.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I say this as a bike commuter who sees phones being used at stoplights every day, and as a parent of kids who walk to school. But also has a driver who occasionally fiddles with Google Maps on the road and could use the reminder myself.</text></item><item><author>gbrown</author><text>Are they accounting for carpooling&amp;#x2F;passengers? I drive into work with my wife every morning, and often check my phone en-route while she&amp;#x27;s driving.&lt;p&gt;This is an important problem, but ham fisted solutions which invade privacy are not the answer. We need better regulation of this stuff.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tasty_freeze</author><text>&amp;gt; I say this as a bike commuter who sees phones being used at stoplights every day&lt;p&gt;Why is this a problem?  I don&amp;#x27;t mess with my phone while I&amp;#x27;m driving, but if I&amp;#x27;m sitting at a light for a minute or two, I&amp;#x27;ll take a peek if, say, a text message came in while I was moving, just to make sure it isn&amp;#x27;t something important from my wife or daughter.</text></comment>
<story><title>Insurers Know How Often American Drivers Touch Their Phones</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-29/insurers-know-exactly-how-often-american-drivers-touch-their-phones</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mikepurvis</author><text>We already have regulations. It&amp;#x27;s not working.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m perfectly content for a phone to detect via GPS&amp;#x2F;IMU that it&amp;#x27;s in a moving vehicle and send up a big angry prompt like &amp;quot;Please confirm that you are a passenger and not driving this vehicle. Phone interactions are being logged and will be available to law enforcement if a collision occurs.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I say this as a bike commuter who sees phones being used at stoplights every day, and as a parent of kids who walk to school. But also has a driver who occasionally fiddles with Google Maps on the road and could use the reminder myself.</text></item><item><author>gbrown</author><text>Are they accounting for carpooling&amp;#x2F;passengers? I drive into work with my wife every morning, and often check my phone en-route while she&amp;#x27;s driving.&lt;p&gt;This is an important problem, but ham fisted solutions which invade privacy are not the answer. We need better regulation of this stuff.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>gbrown</author><text>Don&amp;#x27;t get me wrong, I bike too. I also have little faith that this sort of system will be implemented effectively and transparently. I also don&amp;#x27;t think it should be legal in the first place to gather this kind of data without informed consent (no, TOS doesn&amp;#x27;t count). There&amp;#x27;s so much going on in industry that an IRB wouldn&amp;#x27;t touch, and that&amp;#x27;s where I think we need more regulation.&lt;p&gt;(I also think we need change-lanes-to-pass bills, better bike infrastructure, more regulation on car infotainment systems, and GOOD approaches to punishing and preventing distracted driving).</text></comment>