<story><title>Julia 1.9</title><url>https://julialang.org/blog/2023/04/julia-1.9-highlights/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>geokon</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t know if you genuinely want feedback... But I&amp;#x27;ll share my very short experience. I tried Julia one time a few years back. I&amp;#x27;ll be honest, I didn&amp;#x27;t put in a lot of effort into (but nor will most potential Matlab converts - bc people are busy and have stuff to do)&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s got a frustrating &amp;quot;not fun&amp;quot; on-boarding. ie. the number of minutes from downloading &amp;quot;Julia&amp;quot; to getting cool satisfying results&lt;p&gt;1. It not a calculator on steroids like Matlab. It doesn&amp;#x27;t have one main open source IDE like Octave&amp;#x2F;Rstudio that you can drop in and play around in (see plots docs repl workspace)&lt;p&gt;2. The default language is more like a &amp;quot;proper programming language&amp;quot;. To even make a basic plot you need to import one of a dozen plotting libraries (which requires learning how libraries and importing works - boring ..) and how is someone just getting started to decide which one..? I don&amp;#x27;t need that analysis paralysis when I&amp;#x27;m just getting started&lt;p&gt;3. Documentation .. Well it&amp;#x27;s very hard to compete with Matlab here - but the website is not as confidence inducing. The landing page is a wall of text: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;docs.julialang.org&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;v1&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;docs.julialang.org&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;v1&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt; Tbh, from the subsequent manual listing it&amp;#x27;s not even clear it&amp;#x27;s a math-focused programming language . It&amp;#x27;s talking about constructors, data types, ffi, stack traces, networking etc etc.</text></item><item><author>aborsy</author><text>Matlab users should switch to Julia. It’s a real programming language, and better in many ways.&lt;p&gt;I provide the option of Julia in my tutorials. Students are lazy, and don’t want to explore something new. Most of them stick with matlab.&lt;p&gt;What prevents matlab users from switching? The syntax is similar.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>markkitti</author><text>A lot has changed in a few years. This release is a big one.&lt;p&gt;1. I run Julia on my smartphone and often use it as calculator.&lt;p&gt;2. You typically only need Plots.jl for most needs. See
&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;docs.juliaplots.org&amp;#x2F;stable&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;docs.juliaplots.org&amp;#x2F;stable&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;3. See &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;juliaacademy.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;juliaacademy.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another alternative environment are Pluto notebooks. It&amp;#x27;s reactive like a spreadsheet, but easy to use in your browser.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;featured.plutojl.org&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;featured.plutojl.org&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have several users without much coding experience using Pluto notebooks just to generate plots from CSV files.  They are finding the combination of a web based interface, reactive UI, and fast execution easier to use than a MATLAB Live script.</text></comment>
<story><title>Julia 1.9</title><url>https://julialang.org/blog/2023/04/julia-1.9-highlights/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>geokon</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t know if you genuinely want feedback... But I&amp;#x27;ll share my very short experience. I tried Julia one time a few years back. I&amp;#x27;ll be honest, I didn&amp;#x27;t put in a lot of effort into (but nor will most potential Matlab converts - bc people are busy and have stuff to do)&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s got a frustrating &amp;quot;not fun&amp;quot; on-boarding. ie. the number of minutes from downloading &amp;quot;Julia&amp;quot; to getting cool satisfying results&lt;p&gt;1. It not a calculator on steroids like Matlab. It doesn&amp;#x27;t have one main open source IDE like Octave&amp;#x2F;Rstudio that you can drop in and play around in (see plots docs repl workspace)&lt;p&gt;2. The default language is more like a &amp;quot;proper programming language&amp;quot;. To even make a basic plot you need to import one of a dozen plotting libraries (which requires learning how libraries and importing works - boring ..) and how is someone just getting started to decide which one..? I don&amp;#x27;t need that analysis paralysis when I&amp;#x27;m just getting started&lt;p&gt;3. Documentation .. Well it&amp;#x27;s very hard to compete with Matlab here - but the website is not as confidence inducing. The landing page is a wall of text: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;docs.julialang.org&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;v1&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;docs.julialang.org&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;v1&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt; Tbh, from the subsequent manual listing it&amp;#x27;s not even clear it&amp;#x27;s a math-focused programming language . It&amp;#x27;s talking about constructors, data types, ffi, stack traces, networking etc etc.</text></item><item><author>aborsy</author><text>Matlab users should switch to Julia. It’s a real programming language, and better in many ways.&lt;p&gt;I provide the option of Julia in my tutorials. Students are lazy, and don’t want to explore something new. Most of them stick with matlab.&lt;p&gt;What prevents matlab users from switching? The syntax is similar.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>sundarurfriend</author><text>&amp;gt; 1. It doesn&amp;#x27;t have one main open source IDE like Octave&amp;#x2F;Rstudio that you can drop in and play around in. (you can see plots docs repl workspace)&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s looking like VS Code (julia-vscode.org) will be the equivalent, and it&amp;#x27;s gotten a good chunk of the way towards that - &amp;quot;plots docs repl&amp;quot; are all existing features and pretty easy to use. The docs [1] show a &amp;quot;Workspace&amp;quot; feature too. There&amp;#x27;s also some integration with tools like JET.jl [2] so that there&amp;#x27;s in-editor code analysis and diagnostics.&lt;p&gt;(And the extension works in VS Codium as well, so you can go completely FOSS if that&amp;#x27;s your wish.)&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.julia-vscode.org&amp;#x2F;docs&amp;#x2F;stable&amp;#x2F;userguide&amp;#x2F;grid&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.julia-vscode.org&amp;#x2F;docs&amp;#x2F;stable&amp;#x2F;userguide&amp;#x2F;grid&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;
[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;aviatesk.github.io&amp;#x2F;JET.jl&amp;#x2F;stable&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;aviatesk.github.io&amp;#x2F;JET.jl&amp;#x2F;stable&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>