<story><title>Microsoft .NET Devs Anonymously Responds to Microsoft .NET Leadership</title><url>https://pastebin.com/RF6015kv</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>n8cpdx</author><text>I just had an old acquaintance  on the Azure team try to get me to apply at Microsoft.&lt;p&gt;I told him I can’t, because all the teams at Microsoft I’d want to work (particularly Windows) are suffering from poor management with user- and human-hostile values. I can’t work at a company that goes out of its way to make the world worse for people through software.&lt;p&gt;I gave a long list of examples of user hostile work coming out of Windows, but suggested I thought maybe DevDiv was an exception. A lot of the bad things in the world of windows dev are a direct result of the DevDiv v Windows feud that’s been going on since SteveSi was leading.&lt;p&gt;Oops. I was wrong. It turns out apparently all of Microsoft is driven by leadership that wants to make the world a worse place for human beings. Ads, sneaky non-optional telemetry, ripping features out of OSS code, and then lying about all of the above are management choices driven by the top.&lt;p&gt;I remember when they used to try to recruit for user obsession. That was a long time ago. It’s a shame, because their business model, unlike some other companies, is not fundamentally dependent on screwing users. This is all a Choice in the most profound sense, and an unnecessary choice at that.</text></comment>
<story><title>Microsoft .NET Devs Anonymously Responds to Microsoft .NET Leadership</title><url>https://pastebin.com/RF6015kv</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>minimaul</author><text>&amp;gt; So that we don&amp;#x27;t give away features to Rider?&lt;p&gt;Rider&amp;#x27;s a &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; good .NET IDE - it&amp;#x27;s my preference by far over VS Code, and over VS as well - but it&amp;#x27;s &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; the kind of thing an &amp;#x27;open&amp;#x27; .NET ecosystem should be embracing.&lt;p&gt;If this is the MS management mindset (and I don&amp;#x27;t find it that hard to believe), then .NET is &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; going to be truly open.&lt;p&gt;edit: the bugginess of OmniSharp + VS Code for .NET development doesn&amp;#x27;t work to push me towards VS. VS is okay for the most part on Windows, much worse on Mac and not an option at all on Linux. It 100% pushed me away from VS Code and towards JetBrains - now I use Rider, PyCharm, and PHPStorm instead of VS Code.</text></comment>