<story><title>Peter Thiel: Uber is most ethically challenged company in Silicon Valley [video]</title><url>http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/18/technology/uber-unethical-peter-thiel/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ivraatiems</author><text>Notice the language here. He doesn&amp;#x27;t seem, at least from my reading, to be chastising Uber for doing things that are morally wrong. He&amp;#x27;s instead chastising them for doing morally wrong things &lt;i&gt;and not pulling it off.&lt;/i&gt; For example:&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Sometimes the people who break the rules win and sometimes they push it too far,&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;implying that Uber could be doing wrong things in some more correct way and continue to thrive, and that there isn&amp;#x27;t anything wrong with that. He doesn&amp;#x27;t say &amp;quot;broke rules,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;did bad things,&amp;quot; he said &amp;quot;pushed the envelope.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Look at the implication there - you can and maybe should do unethical things, break some rules, &amp;quot;push the envelope&amp;quot; with questionable behaviors as long as you get away with it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ghshephard</author><text>I think close to 100% of successful entrepreneurs would agree with the statement &amp;quot;You can, and must break some rule, push the envelope, and engage in questionable behavior when building a company - the challenge is in always remembering where the line is, and never crossing it.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Uber clearly crossed the line when their executives voiced out load their frustration with the media &lt;i&gt;and then continued talking&lt;/i&gt; and imagined how nice it would be to give the media a taste of their own medicine and do all sorts of reporting on &lt;i&gt;them personally&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s fine to have those little fantasies in your head - but that&amp;#x27;s as far as it can ever go.  What&amp;#x27;s troubling is that the Uber exec honestly thought it was acceptable to give words to those thoughts...  I&amp;#x27;m wondering if alcohol was involved.</text></comment>
<story><title>Peter Thiel: Uber is most ethically challenged company in Silicon Valley [video]</title><url>http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/18/technology/uber-unethical-peter-thiel/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ivraatiems</author><text>Notice the language here. He doesn&amp;#x27;t seem, at least from my reading, to be chastising Uber for doing things that are morally wrong. He&amp;#x27;s instead chastising them for doing morally wrong things &lt;i&gt;and not pulling it off.&lt;/i&gt; For example:&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Sometimes the people who break the rules win and sometimes they push it too far,&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;implying that Uber could be doing wrong things in some more correct way and continue to thrive, and that there isn&amp;#x27;t anything wrong with that. He doesn&amp;#x27;t say &amp;quot;broke rules,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;did bad things,&amp;quot; he said &amp;quot;pushed the envelope.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Look at the implication there - you can and maybe should do unethical things, break some rules, &amp;quot;push the envelope&amp;quot; with questionable behaviors as long as you get away with it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>akiselev</author><text>In the context of the rest of the video and other stuff Thiel has said, I interpreted that statement to mean that rule breaking is not necessarily immoral but a company like Uber can get carried away and what is essentially a &amp;quot;culture&amp;quot; of rule breaking meant to undermine unjust regulations becomes one meant to undermine competition at any cost.</text></comment>