<story><title>KDE beats macOS</title><url>https://old.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/yvxz2l/kde_beats_macos_hands_down/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tgv</author><text>How does this particular list of very minor gripes get so many upvotes? And it&amp;#x27;s not just minor gripes, half of them are wrong. Some of them have been addressed by others, but:&lt;p&gt;* Taking screenshots requires to click the preview in order to copy to clipboard, which also causes to save it to Desktop.&lt;p&gt;No, it doesn&amp;#x27;t.&lt;p&gt;* Surprising lack of apps in the store&lt;p&gt;Says someone defending KDE? But hey, strangely enough I&amp;#x27;m typing this in Firefox. I&amp;#x27;ve got Teams running, and Zoom. There really is more than one way to install an app.&lt;p&gt;* The stupid amount of app icons in the &amp;quot;tray&amp;quot; bar. Not collapsible, not hideable.&lt;p&gt;What does that mean? There&amp;#x27;s no tray bar. Is it the menu? Is it the Dock? In both cases, it&amp;#x27;s untrue, or the writer means something else.&lt;p&gt;* No easy way to open a path in Finder&lt;p&gt;Cmd-shift-G or Go &amp;gt; Go to folder isn&amp;#x27;t easy enough? What&amp;#x27;s KDE&amp;#x27;s super brilliant solution?&lt;p&gt;* Finder: no side by side view for easily moving stuff between unrelated folders&amp;#x2F;paths&lt;p&gt;Can&amp;#x27;t open two windows?&lt;p&gt;And even if all were true, it misses so many other points, it&amp;#x27;s embarrassing. What OP means is: I&amp;#x27;ve got a fixed workflow, and now I have to learn a few new shortcuts.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>trymas</author><text>Agreed one hundred percent. Why extremely biased rant from specific DE subreddit (also biased) gets so many upvotes? Who cares?&lt;p&gt;My additions:&lt;p&gt;* Poor to non-existing window tiling (at least Rectangle has very good defaults and works well)&lt;p&gt;There are apps for that, like writer mentioned - so what&amp;#x27;s the problem? I&amp;#x27;d argue that using Expose, Mission Control, Multiple desktops and controlling them with touchpad swipes is faster, more convenient, more intuitive and flexible than tilling window management, but it&amp;#x27;s personal biased opinion, just like the writer&amp;#x27;s.&lt;p&gt;* Missing native Alt+Tab and individual window switching (only does app switching)&lt;p&gt;I either don&amp;#x27;t understand the problem or what&amp;#x27;s wrong with `cmd-tab` for app switching and `cmd-~` for app window switching.&lt;p&gt;* Finder keyboard shortcuts not shown in context menu (makes them far less discoverable)&lt;p&gt;Most, if not all, apps have their keyboard shortcuts shown in the menu bar next to menu bar items.&lt;p&gt;* Lack of native clipboard&lt;p&gt;To be fair - I am intrigued what does writer mean with `native clipboard`? Some sort of built-in app for clipboard management?&lt;p&gt;* Finder&amp;#x27;s weird shortcuts for rename vs open file (no way to open a file with keyboard?)&lt;p&gt;`cmd-o` to open, `enter&amp;#x2F;return` to rename, `space` to quick look. Just because OP is not used to different shortcuts - does not mean it&amp;#x27;s weird. Also many shortcuts are very consistent throughout whole system and throughout different apps.&lt;p&gt;After writing all this - I feel like I fell for the troll [0], but will leave my opinions as it may help for other Macos beginners. IMHO it&amp;#x27;s just a thing of muscle memory and learned workflows.&lt;p&gt;[0] I think it&amp;#x27;s trolling, because clearly he&amp;#x2F;she haven&amp;#x27;t read anything about Macos, because there are plenty of sources (even official ones) for first time Macos users. Something like hiding menu bar and&amp;#x2F;or dock are the most easiest things that you can do while skimming through `System preferences` on your own. Original writer seemingly opened Macbook for a first time, it didn&amp;#x27;t work same as KDE so he&amp;#x2F;she decided to rant about it on reddit. ¯\_(ツ)_&amp;#x2F;¯</text></comment>
<story><title>KDE beats macOS</title><url>https://old.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/yvxz2l/kde_beats_macos_hands_down/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tgv</author><text>How does this particular list of very minor gripes get so many upvotes? And it&amp;#x27;s not just minor gripes, half of them are wrong. Some of them have been addressed by others, but:&lt;p&gt;* Taking screenshots requires to click the preview in order to copy to clipboard, which also causes to save it to Desktop.&lt;p&gt;No, it doesn&amp;#x27;t.&lt;p&gt;* Surprising lack of apps in the store&lt;p&gt;Says someone defending KDE? But hey, strangely enough I&amp;#x27;m typing this in Firefox. I&amp;#x27;ve got Teams running, and Zoom. There really is more than one way to install an app.&lt;p&gt;* The stupid amount of app icons in the &amp;quot;tray&amp;quot; bar. Not collapsible, not hideable.&lt;p&gt;What does that mean? There&amp;#x27;s no tray bar. Is it the menu? Is it the Dock? In both cases, it&amp;#x27;s untrue, or the writer means something else.&lt;p&gt;* No easy way to open a path in Finder&lt;p&gt;Cmd-shift-G or Go &amp;gt; Go to folder isn&amp;#x27;t easy enough? What&amp;#x27;s KDE&amp;#x27;s super brilliant solution?&lt;p&gt;* Finder: no side by side view for easily moving stuff between unrelated folders&amp;#x2F;paths&lt;p&gt;Can&amp;#x27;t open two windows?&lt;p&gt;And even if all were true, it misses so many other points, it&amp;#x27;s embarrassing. What OP means is: I&amp;#x27;ve got a fixed workflow, and now I have to learn a few new shortcuts.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>russelg</author><text>&amp;gt; What does that mean? There&amp;#x27;s no tray bar. Is it the menu? Is it the Dock? In both cases, it&amp;#x27;s untrue, or the writer means something else.&lt;p&gt;They&amp;#x27;re clearly talking about the area on the right of the menu bar. You know, the one you can&amp;#x27;t (temporarily) hide entries for without a third-party app, which is functionality that exists in both Windows and KDE.</text></comment>