<story><title>Google is screwed, even if it wins its antitrust case</title><url>https://gizmodo.com/google-bing-microsoft-chatgpt-ai-antitrust-doj-screwed-1850029781</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>titzer</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not so sure AI is as big a threat as Google perceives it to be; back in 2009 the HUGE EXISTENTIAL THREAT was Social, therefore Google+, but that came and went and Google&amp;#x27;s growth continued unabated. That said, I do see a place for language-model driven search. And I shudder to think that language models will be specifically coerced, bribed, and have ingrained in their brains only what advertisers want. If you thought the search landscape of the 2020s is fully of SEO&amp;#x27;d crap, just wait. Google is not in an enviable position.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>aeturnum</author><text>I agree about AI, though for slightly different reasons. Google published the foundational paper for some of the most important tech behind the exciting AI stuff[1]. Because there&amp;#x27;s every reason to believe they are technically capable of competing, the reason they aren&amp;#x27;t offering AI products is probably based on their beliefs about how practical that is right now (cost &amp;#x2F; reliability &amp;#x2F; etc). They also have all their Waymo experience.&lt;p&gt;Basically, I&amp;#x27;m not convinced that Google is &amp;quot;behind&amp;quot; on the tech, but just disagrees about product strategy. Obviously there are lots of examples where this dooms the current leader (Xerox Parc!) - but I think it&amp;#x27;s too early to say? I wouldn&amp;#x27;t short them yet imo.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ai.googleblog.com&amp;#x2F;2017&amp;#x2F;08&amp;#x2F;transformer-novel-neural-network.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ai.googleblog.com&amp;#x2F;2017&amp;#x2F;08&amp;#x2F;transformer-novel-neural-n...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Google is screwed, even if it wins its antitrust case</title><url>https://gizmodo.com/google-bing-microsoft-chatgpt-ai-antitrust-doj-screwed-1850029781</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>titzer</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not so sure AI is as big a threat as Google perceives it to be; back in 2009 the HUGE EXISTENTIAL THREAT was Social, therefore Google+, but that came and went and Google&amp;#x27;s growth continued unabated. That said, I do see a place for language-model driven search. And I shudder to think that language models will be specifically coerced, bribed, and have ingrained in their brains only what advertisers want. If you thought the search landscape of the 2020s is fully of SEO&amp;#x27;d crap, just wait. Google is not in an enviable position.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>minsc_and_boo</author><text>The article also assumes that Google doesn&amp;#x27;t have it&amp;#x27;s own chatGPT or other AI irons in the fire right now.&lt;p&gt;Google Assistant dropped a year after Alexa, and Android&amp;#x27;s reach helped bolster it&amp;#x27;s marketshare (antitrust investigation or not).</text></comment>