<story><title>Hetzner has banned crypto mining and Chia farming</title><url>https://twitter.com/Hetzner_Online/status/1394957824749457409</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>phonebanshee</author><text>Want to drive your car?  The car vendor is well within their rights to eliminate your ability to drive in certain areas.  That&amp;#x27;s just market segmentation.</text></item><item><author>tw04</author><text>As far as I know they aren’t retroactively crippling GPUs. A vendor is well within their rights to artificially limit hardware to create market segmentation.  That’s just a fact of doing business.  I don’t see anything wrong with it. Want to mine? Buy a mining card or a piece of hardware from some other vendor.</text></item><item><author>gruez</author><text>&amp;gt;No, when you BUY a server you should be able to do what you want with it, including burning up the CPU in a week.&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile in a top voted comment from yesterday&amp;#x27;s thread: &amp;quot;I&amp;#x27;m thrilled by [Nvidia cripples cryptocurrency mining]&amp;quot;: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=27200700&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=27200700&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>tw04</author><text>&amp;gt; I understand that. But when I rent a server, I want to be able to use the hardware. That is, if I want to roast the CPU or write to the disks 24&amp;#x2F;7, I should be able to do that, because I rented the full server.&lt;p&gt;No, when you BUY a server you should be able to do what you want with it, including burning up the CPU in a week. When you RENT a server, you get to do exactly what the owner says you can do.</text></item><item><author>MauranKilom</author><text>Not sure if this is of use (since submissions should link to english content in the first place), but here is a rough translation:&lt;p&gt;Joshua:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; @Hetzner_online has silently changed their T&amp;amp;C and banned entire IP ranges this morning around 9:20 am. [I] cancelled and moved 50 AX41 in the past 36h. Deeply disappointed, even though the change does not affect me.&lt;p&gt;Hetzner Online GmbH:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Yes it&amp;#x27;s true, we have amended the T&amp;amp;C and forbidden crypto mining. We received many orders for servers with large hard drives. But increasingly large storage boxes are also being rented for this. For storage boxes this leads to problems with the bandwidth of the host systems. For Chia mining, the disks are additionally extremely taxed due to the amount of read and write operations, causing them to break quickly.&lt;p&gt;Joshua:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I understand that. But when I rent a server, I want to be able to use the hardware. That is, if I want to roast the CPU or write to the disks 24&amp;#x2F;7, I should be able to do that, because I rented the full server.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>fuzzylightbulb</author><text>You might be shocked to find out that speed limiters in cars are a thing: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Speed_limiter&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Speed_limiter&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Hetzner has banned crypto mining and Chia farming</title><url>https://twitter.com/Hetzner_Online/status/1394957824749457409</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>phonebanshee</author><text>Want to drive your car?  The car vendor is well within their rights to eliminate your ability to drive in certain areas.  That&amp;#x27;s just market segmentation.</text></item><item><author>tw04</author><text>As far as I know they aren’t retroactively crippling GPUs. A vendor is well within their rights to artificially limit hardware to create market segmentation.  That’s just a fact of doing business.  I don’t see anything wrong with it. Want to mine? Buy a mining card or a piece of hardware from some other vendor.</text></item><item><author>gruez</author><text>&amp;gt;No, when you BUY a server you should be able to do what you want with it, including burning up the CPU in a week.&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile in a top voted comment from yesterday&amp;#x27;s thread: &amp;quot;I&amp;#x27;m thrilled by [Nvidia cripples cryptocurrency mining]&amp;quot;: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=27200700&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=27200700&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>tw04</author><text>&amp;gt; I understand that. But when I rent a server, I want to be able to use the hardware. That is, if I want to roast the CPU or write to the disks 24&amp;#x2F;7, I should be able to do that, because I rented the full server.&lt;p&gt;No, when you BUY a server you should be able to do what you want with it, including burning up the CPU in a week. When you RENT a server, you get to do exactly what the owner says you can do.</text></item><item><author>MauranKilom</author><text>Not sure if this is of use (since submissions should link to english content in the first place), but here is a rough translation:&lt;p&gt;Joshua:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; @Hetzner_online has silently changed their T&amp;amp;C and banned entire IP ranges this morning around 9:20 am. [I] cancelled and moved 50 AX41 in the past 36h. Deeply disappointed, even though the change does not affect me.&lt;p&gt;Hetzner Online GmbH:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Yes it&amp;#x27;s true, we have amended the T&amp;amp;C and forbidden crypto mining. We received many orders for servers with large hard drives. But increasingly large storage boxes are also being rented for this. For storage boxes this leads to problems with the bandwidth of the host systems. For Chia mining, the disks are additionally extremely taxed due to the amount of read and write operations, causing them to break quickly.&lt;p&gt;Joshua:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I understand that. But when I rent a server, I want to be able to use the hardware. That is, if I want to roast the CPU or write to the disks 24&amp;#x2F;7, I should be able to do that, because I rented the full server.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>gamblor956</author><text>Many &lt;i&gt;rental&lt;/i&gt; car companies actually do restrict where you can drive your car, for example, by forbidding off-roading, or from taking the car over state or country borders. Most restrict rental cars from being used for commercial purposes (meaning in this context, food deliveries or rideshare services).&lt;p&gt;If you want to treat your car however you like, you can buy a car and abuse it to your heart&amp;#x27;s content.</text></comment>