<story><title>The OpenAI board was right</title><url>https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/the-openai-board-was-right</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>camillomiller</author><text>Why isn’t anyone stopping for a minute to think what happens in that darn movie?
Why is it even ok to want your AI to sound like the AI from her?
Why are the people leading AI and tech today so shallow when it comes to cultural depictions of their role?
Unless they would actually like to be the villain.</text></item><item><author>Y_Y</author><text>sama is a chancer, no doubt, but I take issue with this article&amp;#x27;s angle.&lt;p&gt;Clearly they wanted something reminiscend of the film &amp;quot;Her&amp;quot;. Since Scarlett Johansson didn&amp;#x27;t want to do they voice they hired someone else. The voice they used is that of their voice actor, not Scarlett Johansson. She owns her own voice, but I don&amp;#x27;t think she has any rights to voices that merely sound like hers, when they&amp;#x27;re not being used to fraudently imply that she&amp;#x27;s involved.&lt;p&gt;So movies are really influential on culture, and I think there should be broad scope for &amp;quot;taking inspiration&amp;quot; as long as it stops short of plagiarism. Think how many works you&amp;#x27;ve seen that are obviously heavily inspired by e.g. 2001: A Space Odyssey. I don&amp;#x27;t think the vibe of &amp;quot;I&amp;#x27;m sorry Dave, I can&amp;#x27;t let you do that&amp;quot; as belonging to the voice actor Douglas Rain, or Kubrick or Clark. And that&amp;#x27;s what a good thing! Producing cultural works must feed the production of future works and I&amp;#x27;d like to permit all but the most blantant ripoffs.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dTal</author><text>This observation is so widespread it now has a handy shorthand in the form of a meme, the &amp;quot;Torment Nexus&amp;quot;:&lt;p&gt;Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale&lt;p&gt;Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don&amp;#x27;t Create The Torment Nexus&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;knowyourmeme.com&amp;#x2F;memes&amp;#x2F;torment-nexus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;knowyourmeme.com&amp;#x2F;memes&amp;#x2F;torment-nexus&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>The OpenAI board was right</title><url>https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/the-openai-board-was-right</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>camillomiller</author><text>Why isn’t anyone stopping for a minute to think what happens in that darn movie?
Why is it even ok to want your AI to sound like the AI from her?
Why are the people leading AI and tech today so shallow when it comes to cultural depictions of their role?
Unless they would actually like to be the villain.</text></item><item><author>Y_Y</author><text>sama is a chancer, no doubt, but I take issue with this article&amp;#x27;s angle.&lt;p&gt;Clearly they wanted something reminiscend of the film &amp;quot;Her&amp;quot;. Since Scarlett Johansson didn&amp;#x27;t want to do they voice they hired someone else. The voice they used is that of their voice actor, not Scarlett Johansson. She owns her own voice, but I don&amp;#x27;t think she has any rights to voices that merely sound like hers, when they&amp;#x27;re not being used to fraudently imply that she&amp;#x27;s involved.&lt;p&gt;So movies are really influential on culture, and I think there should be broad scope for &amp;quot;taking inspiration&amp;quot; as long as it stops short of plagiarism. Think how many works you&amp;#x27;ve seen that are obviously heavily inspired by e.g. 2001: A Space Odyssey. I don&amp;#x27;t think the vibe of &amp;quot;I&amp;#x27;m sorry Dave, I can&amp;#x27;t let you do that&amp;quot; as belonging to the voice actor Douglas Rain, or Kubrick or Clark. And that&amp;#x27;s what a good thing! Producing cultural works must feed the production of future works and I&amp;#x27;d like to permit all but the most blantant ripoffs.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tidenly</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve seen this take quite a lot around Twitter recently, which is confusing to me. Do you read Her as a &amp;quot;AI assistants are bad&amp;quot; story? I thought it was a much more subtle exploration of what our world would be like if such things existed, rather than outright condemning it, but it seems like lots of people saw only horror start to finish.</text></comment>