<story><title>IPCC’s starkest message yet: extreme steps needed to avert climate disaster</title><url>https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00951-5</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>trentnix</author><text>“Extreme steps”, whether they admit it or not, is a reduction in the standard of living of many and handicapping the efforts to improve the standard of living for most. That requires the power of the individual to be reduced to empower central authorities who will manage our new rationed, austere society.&lt;p&gt;That is, certainly, a recipe for catastrophic war.&lt;p&gt;If climate change is the existential crisis some insist it is, our only solution is technological. But those who wish to use climate change as a Trojan horse to enact their social whims will reject any discussion of the sort. Because solving climate change isn’t their goal, it’s the means to attain their goal.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>AlexandrB</author><text>&amp;gt; That is, certainly, a recipe for catastrophic war.&lt;p&gt;Climate change itself is probably a recipe for catastrophic war &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; the resurgence of fascism. There are estimates as high as 1.2 billion for people that will be displaced by climate change[1]. Even a much smaller number of refugees from the middle east and South America has helped push politics in many western countries towards isolationism and increased xenophobia. What would 1.2 billion refugees do?&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.weforum.org&amp;#x2F;agenda&amp;#x2F;2021&amp;#x2F;06&amp;#x2F;climate-refugees-the-world-s-forgotten-victims&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.weforum.org&amp;#x2F;agenda&amp;#x2F;2021&amp;#x2F;06&amp;#x2F;climate-refugees-the-...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>IPCC’s starkest message yet: extreme steps needed to avert climate disaster</title><url>https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00951-5</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>trentnix</author><text>“Extreme steps”, whether they admit it or not, is a reduction in the standard of living of many and handicapping the efforts to improve the standard of living for most. That requires the power of the individual to be reduced to empower central authorities who will manage our new rationed, austere society.&lt;p&gt;That is, certainly, a recipe for catastrophic war.&lt;p&gt;If climate change is the existential crisis some insist it is, our only solution is technological. But those who wish to use climate change as a Trojan horse to enact their social whims will reject any discussion of the sort. Because solving climate change isn’t their goal, it’s the means to attain their goal.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>DoingIsLearning</author><text>American, Canada, Australia, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, are a short list of countries who emit a ridiculously disproportionate amount of carbon per capita. [0]&lt;p&gt;The assumption that reduction of carbon emissions is a reduction of standard of living is flawed. A long list of developed countries have a tiny footprint per capita. Standard of living and living wastefully are not the same thing.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ourworldindata.org&amp;#x2F;grapher&amp;#x2F;co-emissions-per-capita?tab=chart&amp;amp;country=CAN~USA~GBR~JPN~NZL~CHE~SWE~FRA~DNK~ISR~AUS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ourworldindata.org&amp;#x2F;grapher&amp;#x2F;co-emissions-per-capita?t...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>