<story><title>AstraZeneca exempt from coronavirus vaccine liability claims in most countries</title><url>https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-astrazeneca-results-vaccine-liability/astrazeneca-to-be-exempt-from-coronavirus-vaccine-liability-claims-in-most-countries-idUKKCN24V2EN</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>pastrami_panda</author><text>In Stockholm about 20% of the population now have antibodies, despite a lot social distancing. We have plenty of hospital beds ready in the event the number of people with respiratory problems would rise. No one is using face masks and the official consensus is that it doesn&amp;#x27;t provide enough contamination protection to be currently worthwhile. We keep our gatherings small and avoid crowds or close interactions where possible. Our authorities in control of elderly homes really did screw up in the early parts of the outbreak though, and a lot of elderly people lost their lives because of that. But overall things are moving toward a more normal society each day. I&amp;#x27;m far removed from the belief that we need a rushed vaccine to cope with this pandemic. I can&amp;#x27;t speak for other countries and their strategies though but this is a local correspondence from the ground sort of speak.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tigershark</author><text>You forgot to say that you have basically the same deaths&amp;#x2F;M as Italy, and these increased drastically in the last part of the outbreak, not in the early part.
The difference is that Italy was completely unprepared while you had all the information needed to mitigate the impact, as your Nordic neighbours did very well.</text></comment>
<story><title>AstraZeneca exempt from coronavirus vaccine liability claims in most countries</title><url>https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-astrazeneca-results-vaccine-liability/astrazeneca-to-be-exempt-from-coronavirus-vaccine-liability-claims-in-most-countries-idUKKCN24V2EN</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>pastrami_panda</author><text>In Stockholm about 20% of the population now have antibodies, despite a lot social distancing. We have plenty of hospital beds ready in the event the number of people with respiratory problems would rise. No one is using face masks and the official consensus is that it doesn&amp;#x27;t provide enough contamination protection to be currently worthwhile. We keep our gatherings small and avoid crowds or close interactions where possible. Our authorities in control of elderly homes really did screw up in the early parts of the outbreak though, and a lot of elderly people lost their lives because of that. But overall things are moving toward a more normal society each day. I&amp;#x27;m far removed from the belief that we need a rushed vaccine to cope with this pandemic. I can&amp;#x27;t speak for other countries and their strategies though but this is a local correspondence from the ground sort of speak.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>acd</author><text>One also have to account for T-cell immunity which is double that of normal anti body immunity. 14.5 percent of Sweden capital Stockholm population had antibodies according to COVID-19 test lab Werlabs. If you take 14.5 + 2x14.5 you get 43.5 percent that have immune system protection from COVID-19 in Stockholm. 43.5 percent is close to when we get herd immunity. In smaller cities in Sweden there is not the same population immunity so it may still spread there up to the herd immunity point. People still can get infected by a spreader if about 43.5 percent have immune system response.&lt;p&gt;Werlabs anti body measures of Stockholm news
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