<story><title>iOS Ships Dvorak, Finally</title><url>https://weblog.antranigv.am/posts/2022/10/ios-dvorak/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>chairmanwow1</author><text>I use dvorak for my computer, but I  think the design goals of QWERTY are actually useful for the small keyboard of a phone being used with thumbs.&lt;p&gt;It was designed to put diphthongs on opposite sides of the keyboard so that a mechanical typewriter wouldn’t jam as frequently. I think avoiding “jams” with my thumbs is definitely the way to think about it.&lt;p&gt;All of this is speculation because I haven’t had the chance to try it our yet ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jerf</author><text>I use swiping almost exclusively, and HN has discussed before how Dvorak is actually &lt;i&gt;really bad&lt;/i&gt; for that:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=7110619&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=7110619&lt;/a&gt; , but the article is broken, so see &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;web.archive.org&amp;#x2F;web&amp;#x2F;20150320170000&amp;#x2F;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;minuum.com&amp;#x2F;model-your-users-algorithms-behind-the-minuum-keyboard&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;web.archive.org&amp;#x2F;web&amp;#x2F;20150320170000&amp;#x2F;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;minuum.com...&lt;/a&gt; .&lt;p&gt;Having all the vowels next to each other, and so many words in English that differ just by vowels, is actually really hard on the swiping algorithm. As I mention in the comments of that article, it is likely that QWERTY is not optimal for that use case either, but it&amp;#x27;s a lot closer. Despite using Dvorak for almost everything else, including typing this comment right now, I have no use or desire for it on mobile phones. YMMV, of course.</text></comment>
<story><title>iOS Ships Dvorak, Finally</title><url>https://weblog.antranigv.am/posts/2022/10/ios-dvorak/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>chairmanwow1</author><text>I use dvorak for my computer, but I  think the design goals of QWERTY are actually useful for the small keyboard of a phone being used with thumbs.&lt;p&gt;It was designed to put diphthongs on opposite sides of the keyboard so that a mechanical typewriter wouldn’t jam as frequently. I think avoiding “jams” with my thumbs is definitely the way to think about it.&lt;p&gt;All of this is speculation because I haven’t had the chance to try it our yet ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>skrap</author><text>As a former iOS engineer at Apple, and a dvorak user, I can verify that this is &lt;i&gt;exactly&lt;/i&gt; the thinking (during my time) of why dvorak support wasn&amp;#x27;t a development priority.  The properties which make it good for typing make it bad for a phone keyboard.</text></comment>