<story><title>Amazon doubling down on return to office</title><url>https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/amazon-return-to-office/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>shmatt</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t understand G.O&amp;#x27;s obsession with Amazon RTO and not the rest of the industry. No, it&amp;#x27;s not &amp;quot;unprecedented pushback&amp;quot;, Apple employees fought much harder, executives publicly quit, and employees went to the media with names publicly exposed. And yet they went back to the office (those who didn&amp;#x27;t quit, which might of been intentional on Apples part)&lt;p&gt;Now back to G.O, I really really don&amp;#x27;t understand the hype surrounding him in the industry as if his words mean anything.&lt;p&gt;He was a line manager at Uber 2017-2020. And left the industry. He writes as if he had held multiple SVP positions analyzing how and why engineering orgs do things. He writes about Uber once in a while, in such a generic way, as if in a 30,000 person org all teams have the same ways of working&lt;p&gt;His writing in clueless, its 90% &amp;quot;I have been told&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;people in the company are telling me&amp;quot;, its basically a mix of DJT&amp;#x27;s ex-twitter feed and Blind.&lt;p&gt;His latest &amp;quot;trick&amp;quot; was scanning LinkedIn to show that in the past 45 days Google&amp;#x27;s engineering org grew by 6%. I really doubt that happened, Googlers I know really doubt that happened, and using LinkedIn which doesn&amp;#x27;t verify employment is a very poor way of analyzing data</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>gregdoesit</author><text>Hi! The G.O. here who you refer to.&lt;p&gt;To reply to some of the factually incorrect parts of this comment:&lt;p&gt;On why I don’t cover other companies’ RTO? But I do! You asked about Apple: wrote about them and RTO last month [1]. Other companies doing this - also [2]. You can find my articles on my blog [3] and I really try not to “obsess” about any one company.&lt;p&gt;I am a bit puzzled on the comment about writing about Uber in “such a generic way.” Here’s a deepdive that happens to be about Uber’s data center history, just from two weeks ago [4]. I am not aware of these pretty specific - and not that easy to track down - details shared before.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.pragmaticengineer.com&amp;#x2F;the-scoop-apple-rto&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.pragmaticengineer.com&amp;#x2F;the-scoop-apple-rto&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.pragmaticengineer.com&amp;#x2F;the-scoop-rto&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.pragmaticengineer.com&amp;#x2F;the-scoop-rto&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.pragmaticengineer.com&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;blog.pragmaticengineer.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[4] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com&amp;#x2F;p&amp;#x2F;uber-move-to-cloud&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com&amp;#x2F;p&amp;#x2F;uber-move-to-clou...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Amazon doubling down on return to office</title><url>https://blog.pragmaticengineer.com/amazon-return-to-office/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>shmatt</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t understand G.O&amp;#x27;s obsession with Amazon RTO and not the rest of the industry. No, it&amp;#x27;s not &amp;quot;unprecedented pushback&amp;quot;, Apple employees fought much harder, executives publicly quit, and employees went to the media with names publicly exposed. And yet they went back to the office (those who didn&amp;#x27;t quit, which might of been intentional on Apples part)&lt;p&gt;Now back to G.O, I really really don&amp;#x27;t understand the hype surrounding him in the industry as if his words mean anything.&lt;p&gt;He was a line manager at Uber 2017-2020. And left the industry. He writes as if he had held multiple SVP positions analyzing how and why engineering orgs do things. He writes about Uber once in a while, in such a generic way, as if in a 30,000 person org all teams have the same ways of working&lt;p&gt;His writing in clueless, its 90% &amp;quot;I have been told&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;people in the company are telling me&amp;quot;, its basically a mix of DJT&amp;#x27;s ex-twitter feed and Blind.&lt;p&gt;His latest &amp;quot;trick&amp;quot; was scanning LinkedIn to show that in the past 45 days Google&amp;#x27;s engineering org grew by 6%. I really doubt that happened, Googlers I know really doubt that happened, and using LinkedIn which doesn&amp;#x27;t verify employment is a very poor way of analyzing data</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tmpz22</author><text>A lot of Google subcontractors represent themselves as Google employees on LinkedIn etc.</text></comment>