<story><title>One month from concept to $1000 in revenue</title><url>https://www.indiehackers.com/forum/week-2-one-month-from-concept-to-1000-revenue-bb7c736b9e</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>BartBoch</author><text>Well, ok. I see you decided to attack me. OK.
I am not interested in going into the fight with you, so I will answer just a few things I think people would like me to explain.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;My idea is 50% accurate?&amp;quot; - the question &amp;quot;How accurately do you think this idea solves the problem?&amp;quot; should explain that.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Sorry, I can guarantee you that&amp;#x27;s not what you&amp;#x27;re doing.&amp;quot; - great, how?&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;but at the same time you&amp;#x27;re introducing a non-response bias&amp;quot; - so according to you paying to pretty much-untargeted people to answer questions is better than getting some of the relevant people to fill out the survey? Interesting.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;you&amp;#x27;re spamming hundreds of people to receive 25 survey responses&amp;quot; - it seems you know things I don&amp;#x27;t know then. I am not spamming people. I send them a request if they can fill out the survey to help a company. All of the people we contacted agreed to be contacted.&lt;p&gt;Only because you have not managed to figure it out, does not mean other people haven&amp;#x27;t. I am OK with running at no profit, for now, to build the brand and get my name out.
You can pretend like paid, barely targeted people are better than answers from real, targeted, unpaid people. But the reality is, that even if only certain % of people answer to our call, they are still targeted, and they beat paid survey takers by a mile.&lt;p&gt;Very classy of you to post this kind of biased and offensive comment.</text></item><item><author>niko001</author><text>I run IdeaCheck.io [0], a similar service. I appreciate competition, but this looks like a quickly thrown together MVP without a real product. Have a look at the graphs on the sample report [1] - it makes zero sense to present this information as a line chart. What is the significance of the 8 other data points on the chart that aren&amp;#x27;t labeled? What kind of metrics are &amp;quot;accuracy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;feelings&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;My idea is 50% accurate?&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;From the landing page: &amp;quot;Are you opening a burger joint around the corner? Let us talk to the people from the office building in front of it, your potential customers!&amp;quot; Sorry, I can guarantee you that&amp;#x27;s not what you&amp;#x27;re doing.&lt;p&gt;IdeaCheck uses a professional panel provider to find respondents. We negotiated a contract with this provider to provide entrepreneurs with access to the same class of market research that Fortune 100 companies use. We don&amp;#x27;t make any targeting claims that we can&amp;#x27;t deliver on. Yes, respondents are paid, but that doesn&amp;#x27;t incentivize them to be extra nice - they answer multiple random surveys each day (from different companies doing market research) and are paid for their time, not their opinion. In general, I like the idea of not paying respondents and actively searching for a small target niche, but at the same time you&amp;#x27;re introducing a non-response bias (you&amp;#x27;re spamming hundreds of people to receive 25 survey responses - those who reply aren&amp;#x27;t an accurate representation of the target audience)&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ideacheck.io&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ideacheck.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;afteridea.com&amp;#x2F;app&amp;#x2F;index.php?id=5b396a5f4eb37&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;afteridea.com&amp;#x2F;app&amp;#x2F;index.php?id=5b396a5f4eb37&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dumbfoundded</author><text>Here&amp;#x27;s some feedback from someone who isn&amp;#x27;t a competitor of your&amp;#x27;s.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m guessing you&amp;#x27;re using facebook ads to hand out surveys to targeted people. If that&amp;#x27;s not exactly what you&amp;#x27;re doing, you should be aware of the fact that your business model&amp;#x27;s value is to bypass people from going into the facebook ad manager, creating a survey, selecting a few interests &amp;#x2F; demographics and then hitting enter.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s not a lot of value in this business model, especially given that if I did this using facebook, I would have the actual audience instead of your summary of it.&lt;p&gt;Next piece of advice, be less emotional. Someone criticized you. Don&amp;#x27;t take it personally, address their points or don&amp;#x27;t, I don&amp;#x27;t care, but as a potential customer, I look at this message and immediately am turned off by it. The message above does make some good points and you just try to drown it out with emotion.&lt;p&gt;Last piece of advice, I actually think there&amp;#x27;s a lot of value in talking to people directly. If you could actually &amp;quot;talk to the people from the office building in front of it&amp;quot; and then scale it, that might have value but from your website, I have no clue if that&amp;#x27;s what you&amp;#x27;re doing and I actually get the impression that you&amp;#x27;re not.</text></comment>
<story><title>One month from concept to $1000 in revenue</title><url>https://www.indiehackers.com/forum/week-2-one-month-from-concept-to-1000-revenue-bb7c736b9e</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>BartBoch</author><text>Well, ok. I see you decided to attack me. OK.
I am not interested in going into the fight with you, so I will answer just a few things I think people would like me to explain.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;My idea is 50% accurate?&amp;quot; - the question &amp;quot;How accurately do you think this idea solves the problem?&amp;quot; should explain that.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Sorry, I can guarantee you that&amp;#x27;s not what you&amp;#x27;re doing.&amp;quot; - great, how?&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;but at the same time you&amp;#x27;re introducing a non-response bias&amp;quot; - so according to you paying to pretty much-untargeted people to answer questions is better than getting some of the relevant people to fill out the survey? Interesting.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;you&amp;#x27;re spamming hundreds of people to receive 25 survey responses&amp;quot; - it seems you know things I don&amp;#x27;t know then. I am not spamming people. I send them a request if they can fill out the survey to help a company. All of the people we contacted agreed to be contacted.&lt;p&gt;Only because you have not managed to figure it out, does not mean other people haven&amp;#x27;t. I am OK with running at no profit, for now, to build the brand and get my name out.
You can pretend like paid, barely targeted people are better than answers from real, targeted, unpaid people. But the reality is, that even if only certain % of people answer to our call, they are still targeted, and they beat paid survey takers by a mile.&lt;p&gt;Very classy of you to post this kind of biased and offensive comment.</text></item><item><author>niko001</author><text>I run IdeaCheck.io [0], a similar service. I appreciate competition, but this looks like a quickly thrown together MVP without a real product. Have a look at the graphs on the sample report [1] - it makes zero sense to present this information as a line chart. What is the significance of the 8 other data points on the chart that aren&amp;#x27;t labeled? What kind of metrics are &amp;quot;accuracy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;feelings&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;My idea is 50% accurate?&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;From the landing page: &amp;quot;Are you opening a burger joint around the corner? Let us talk to the people from the office building in front of it, your potential customers!&amp;quot; Sorry, I can guarantee you that&amp;#x27;s not what you&amp;#x27;re doing.&lt;p&gt;IdeaCheck uses a professional panel provider to find respondents. We negotiated a contract with this provider to provide entrepreneurs with access to the same class of market research that Fortune 100 companies use. We don&amp;#x27;t make any targeting claims that we can&amp;#x27;t deliver on. Yes, respondents are paid, but that doesn&amp;#x27;t incentivize them to be extra nice - they answer multiple random surveys each day (from different companies doing market research) and are paid for their time, not their opinion. In general, I like the idea of not paying respondents and actively searching for a small target niche, but at the same time you&amp;#x27;re introducing a non-response bias (you&amp;#x27;re spamming hundreds of people to receive 25 survey responses - those who reply aren&amp;#x27;t an accurate representation of the target audience)&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ideacheck.io&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ideacheck.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;afteridea.com&amp;#x2F;app&amp;#x2F;index.php?id=5b396a5f4eb37&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;afteridea.com&amp;#x2F;app&amp;#x2F;index.php?id=5b396a5f4eb37&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>CobrastanJorji</author><text>&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  &amp;quot;Are you opening a burger joint around the corner? Let us talk to the people from the office building in front of it, your potential customers!&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sorry, I can guarantee you that&amp;#x27;s not what you&amp;#x27;re doing.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;  great, how?&lt;p&gt;Well...ARE you going to talk to the people from the office building in front of it?</text></comment>