<story><title>Where the Good Jobs Are</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/business/economy/good-jobs-no-college-degrees.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>LeanderK</author><text>&amp;gt;&amp;gt; The median wage for workers with some college education but no four-year degree is $835 per week, about 10 percent less than it was at the turn of the century, after inflation&lt;p&gt;This is a crazy sentence if you think about it. For a significant part of society wages did not only stagnate, they dropped. I don&amp;#x27;t think the trend will reverse any time soon. If the wages of another profecion rose 10 percent and were equal before, we would see a 22 percent difference (which is a lot!).&lt;p&gt;Since this is the trend for all workers with some college education but without a four year degree, i think it&amp;#x27;s a dire situation for those people. There&amp;#x27;s no easy way out (the article suggesst moving!).&lt;p&gt;The suggestion in the article may be smart on an individual level, but it could lead to a further segregation between sucessfull and not sucessfull regions.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tosser0001</author><text>It would be interesting to calculate how much better wages are given country of origin.  What I mean is, there are currently about 28 million immigrants living in the U.S. with about 1.2 million arriving every year (both documented and undocumented.)&lt;p&gt;According to statistics, 30% of new immigrants have no high school diploma, so while the average wage is low, it&amp;#x27;s probably much higher than they would be getting in their native country (otherwise, presumably, many woudn&amp;#x27;t have left in the first place.)&lt;p&gt;This may be putting pressure on wage growth for native-born Americans but overall growth as a whole may be stronger than it looks.</text></comment>
<story><title>Where the Good Jobs Are</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/business/economy/good-jobs-no-college-degrees.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>LeanderK</author><text>&amp;gt;&amp;gt; The median wage for workers with some college education but no four-year degree is $835 per week, about 10 percent less than it was at the turn of the century, after inflation&lt;p&gt;This is a crazy sentence if you think about it. For a significant part of society wages did not only stagnate, they dropped. I don&amp;#x27;t think the trend will reverse any time soon. If the wages of another profecion rose 10 percent and were equal before, we would see a 22 percent difference (which is a lot!).&lt;p&gt;Since this is the trend for all workers with some college education but without a four year degree, i think it&amp;#x27;s a dire situation for those people. There&amp;#x27;s no easy way out (the article suggesst moving!).&lt;p&gt;The suggestion in the article may be smart on an individual level, but it could lead to a further segregation between sucessfull and not sucessfull regions.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rayiner</author><text>The statistic isn’t useful standing alone. The turn of the century was two decades ago, and college attendance rates have changed substantially. I can’t find a statistic for “some college,” but the percentage of people who have completed college increased from 20% to 30% from 2000 to 2015. The group of people who have “some college” in 2019 is much broader than the same group in 2000.</text></comment>