<story><title>Making IRC better</title><url>https://sourcehut.org/blog/2022-07-06-sourcehut-and-irc/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dpedu</author><text>Am I the only person that doesn&amp;#x27;t want IRCv3? I don&amp;#x27;t find the new features important or compelling (telling others when I am typing is creepy!) and I see v3&amp;#x27;s rise as only leading to some sort of schism.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Eupraxias</author><text>You&amp;#x27;re not alone - IRC is precious as one of the last places where one can  still avoid exactly these kind of features! It looks&amp;#x2F;fits&amp;#x2F;feels more or less the same today as it was when I started using it in 1996, and I have never felt it needs improvement.&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Weechat in a terminal on my other monitor&amp;quot; feels like home to me.  I&amp;#x27;m hoping we can opt-out, but in my opinion it will be a dark and dogless day when we cannot.</text></comment>
<story><title>Making IRC better</title><url>https://sourcehut.org/blog/2022-07-06-sourcehut-and-irc/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dpedu</author><text>Am I the only person that doesn&amp;#x27;t want IRCv3? I don&amp;#x27;t find the new features important or compelling (telling others when I am typing is creepy!) and I see v3&amp;#x27;s rise as only leading to some sort of schism.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mjevans</author><text>My _opinion_ is that whatever really replaces &amp;#x2F; evolves existing commonly used communications protocols already has an uphill battle.  Further, as Gchat &amp;#x2F; XMPP based chats showed (opinion observations): federation without a sufficiently rich baseline to ensure a basic user experience leads to fragmentation, silo-ing, and eventual death.&lt;p&gt;It has to fulfill the need of a common space for public discourse.&lt;p&gt;The specification must be open and free for all to use.  There should be no artificial restrictions on who is able to develop tools including servers, clients, intermediary or subsystems, or provide a service to host any of them.  Federation also introduces a higher risk of spam and bad actors; it&amp;#x27;s part of the price of freedom so the protocol should have an intended use pattern that addresses that type of issue; ideally without forcing the association of a &amp;#x27;real identity&amp;#x27; to all use of the system.  That won&amp;#x27;t solve all of the problems, and it adds a bunch of other problems.  However a system of the commons may see users such as government organizations or heavily regulated industries where endpoints agree to use such an identity in some way.</text></comment>