<story><title>Estonia, allies to trigger NATO Article 4</title><url>https://twitter.com/EstonianGovt/status/1496728085890273284</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>throwaway5752</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;valitsus.ee&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;estonian-government-requests-consultations-under-article-4-nato-treaty&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;valitsus.ee&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;estonian-government-requests-con...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;People are minimizing this, based on the word &amp;quot;consultation&amp;quot;. Don&amp;#x27;t be fooled, this is grave news, even though it is not Article 5. Article 5 invocation under these circumstances have substantial risk of full scale thermonuclear exchange.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>vmception</author><text>Article 4 was done in 2014 too and it was hardly news while &lt;i&gt;again&lt;/i&gt; in reaction to Ukraine which was experiencing its own civil war &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt; a pro-Russian puppet leader that resulted in regime change aannnnnnd.... nothing else.&lt;p&gt;The military operation by Russia is alarming.&lt;p&gt;The Article 4 invocation is not.</text></comment>
<story><title>Estonia, allies to trigger NATO Article 4</title><url>https://twitter.com/EstonianGovt/status/1496728085890273284</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>throwaway5752</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;valitsus.ee&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;estonian-government-requests-consultations-under-article-4-nato-treaty&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;valitsus.ee&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;estonian-government-requests-con...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;People are minimizing this, based on the word &amp;quot;consultation&amp;quot;. Don&amp;#x27;t be fooled, this is grave news, even though it is not Article 5. Article 5 invocation under these circumstances have substantial risk of full scale thermonuclear exchange.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>awb</author><text>&amp;gt; substantial risk of full scale thermonuclear exchange.&lt;p&gt;To what end?&lt;p&gt;If Russia wants more territory they presumably care about the future. Why conquer all this territory just to blow up the world? Sounds like a waste of time.&lt;p&gt;The scariest situation is one nuke. How do you respond? One nuke back or two? Then things escalate quickly.&lt;p&gt;But I don’t see either country launching their full nuke arsenal unprovoked with their homeland not under any immediate danger. That’s just a death wish. And at that point there’s no one left to brag to about how great your country is.</text></comment>