<story><title>&apos;We&apos;re doomed&apos;: Mayer Hillman on the climate reality no one else dare mention</title><url>https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/26/were-doomed-mayer-hillman-on-the-climate-reality-no-one-else-will-dare-mention</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>caf</author><text>As someone who was actually around in the industry and saw the massive efforts that were made to successfully fix things, it shits me to tears when people talk about the Millenium Bug as some kind of crying-wolf moment.&lt;p&gt;I saw some of the awful bugs that were fixed first hand.  I have no reason to doubt that my experience wasn&amp;#x27;t replicated in important &amp;quot;legacy systems&amp;quot; right across the industry.  Things only passed so smoothly &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; of that effort.</text></comment>
<story><title>&apos;We&apos;re doomed&apos;: Mayer Hillman on the climate reality no one else dare mention</title><url>https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/26/were-doomed-mayer-hillman-on-the-climate-reality-no-one-else-will-dare-mention</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>ppod</author><text>Here&amp;#x27;s the part that I don&amp;#x27;t get (and I would be afraid to admit to this in a non-anonymous setting among my peer group).&lt;p&gt;I completely accept the evidence and the consensus that human action is causing global carbon levels and therefore temperature to rise. The part I don&amp;#x27;t get is what exactly happens to the planet, our species and other animals given say, a 2C rise by 2200. Say that&amp;#x27;s a 2 metre sea level rise. Ecosystems and societies are pretty robust to that level of change over 200 years. There would be very bad effects on some low-lying coastal cities, and the areas of the earth that are productive for different kinds of agriculture and habitats would change.&lt;p&gt;This is bad and we should work to avoid it, but I think that we lose credibility when we speak of the end of civilisation, or even major threats to our normal way of life globally.</text></comment>