<story><title>Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline</title><url>https://cam.mbi.ufl.edu/2023/01/31/6089/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>forgetfulness</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not sure what the situation in many parts of the US is, but is not freshly baked bread, the kind with unsurprising ingredients and that goes stale when you&amp;#x27;d expect it, not an option?&lt;p&gt;The stuff made to sit on the supermarket&amp;#x27;s shelf for long times has such an odd consistency and flavor, very spongy and very tangy and sweet, you can&amp;#x27;t spread anything on it without toasting it first. I wouldn&amp;#x27;t take it as the standard for bread.</text></item><item><author>strict9</author><text>&amp;gt;&lt;i&gt;Even packaged breads, including those high in nutritious whole grains, qualify as ultra-processed in many cases because of the additives and preservatives they contain.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;However much I&amp;#x27;d like to alter my diet to be more healthy, including flavored nuts or bread as ultraprocessed means I have nearly zero chance avoiding a sizable portion of what academic scientists label as ultraprocessed.&lt;p&gt;These studies and press releases seem counterproductive. If sliced bread or fancy nuts is in the same category as aerosol cheese or high calorie soda, a lot of people are going to struggle to understand what &lt;i&gt;isn&amp;#x27;t&lt;/i&gt; ultraprocessed and give up trying to select better items at the grocery store.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>orangepurple</author><text>If you want to understand what the average American consumes the answer is whatever is on the shelf of their local Walmart (they sell groceries). The average American may assemble food from time to time but generally does not cook. That said, there are hundreds of millions of people in that country, so this is obviously a generalization, and should be treated as such.&lt;p&gt;That said Lidl is making aggressive inroads into the country and that MIGHT have an impact long term. They have legitimate and affordable fresh bread.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.walmart.com&amp;#x2F;tp&amp;#x2F;bread&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.walmart.com&amp;#x2F;tp&amp;#x2F;bread&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is Walmart&amp;#x27;s store brand (as cheap as possible): &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.walmart.com&amp;#x2F;ip&amp;#x2F;Great-Value-Wheat-Sandwich-Bread-Loaf-20-oz&amp;#x2F;10315699&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.walmart.com&amp;#x2F;ip&amp;#x2F;Great-Value-Wheat-Sandwich-Bread-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ingredients: Enriched Flour (Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Whole Wheat Flour, Sugar, Yeast, Contains 2% or less of the following: Soybean Oil, Wheat Bran, Salt, Vital Wheat Gluten, Molasses, Calcium Propionate (Preservative) Vinegar, Dough Conditioners (Monoglycerides, Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Ascorbic Acid, Calcium Sulfate, Enzymes), Potassium Iodate, Monocalcium Phosphate</text></comment>
<story><title>Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline</title><url>https://cam.mbi.ufl.edu/2023/01/31/6089/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>forgetfulness</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not sure what the situation in many parts of the US is, but is not freshly baked bread, the kind with unsurprising ingredients and that goes stale when you&amp;#x27;d expect it, not an option?&lt;p&gt;The stuff made to sit on the supermarket&amp;#x27;s shelf for long times has such an odd consistency and flavor, very spongy and very tangy and sweet, you can&amp;#x27;t spread anything on it without toasting it first. I wouldn&amp;#x27;t take it as the standard for bread.</text></item><item><author>strict9</author><text>&amp;gt;&lt;i&gt;Even packaged breads, including those high in nutritious whole grains, qualify as ultra-processed in many cases because of the additives and preservatives they contain.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;However much I&amp;#x27;d like to alter my diet to be more healthy, including flavored nuts or bread as ultraprocessed means I have nearly zero chance avoiding a sizable portion of what academic scientists label as ultraprocessed.&lt;p&gt;These studies and press releases seem counterproductive. If sliced bread or fancy nuts is in the same category as aerosol cheese or high calorie soda, a lot of people are going to struggle to understand what &lt;i&gt;isn&amp;#x27;t&lt;/i&gt; ultraprocessed and give up trying to select better items at the grocery store.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>WaitWaitWha</author><text>You can buy fresh products at a reasonable cost in the USA, just have to make the effort to look.&lt;p&gt;Talking about processed bread, here is an example from Sam&amp;#x27;s Club [0] for sourdough boules, at $6 for four (about 1kg total).  The ingredient list contains nothing ultra-processed.&lt;p&gt;[0]: Soudough boules at Sam&amp;#x27;s Club &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.samsclub.com&amp;#x2F;p&amp;#x2F;members-mark-sourdough-boules-4-ct&amp;#x2F;PL980416810&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.samsclub.com&amp;#x2F;p&amp;#x2F;members-mark-sourdough-boules-4-c...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>