<story><title>Amazon Sidewalk</title><url>https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Sidewalk/b?node=21328123011</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mchristen</author><text>They are oftentimes way more expense, I&amp;#x27;m guessing because you aren&amp;#x27;t subsidizing the cost with your data.</text></item><item><author>sithadmin</author><text>There is a huge market for &amp;#x27;dumb panels&amp;#x27;, under the moniker of &amp;#x27;digital signage&amp;#x27;. Nearly every major TV vendor has &amp;#x27;dumb&amp;#x27; displays SKUs on offer in many different configs. The only problem is that they aren&amp;#x27;t always easy to get one&amp;#x27;s hand on, as they usually are sold through b2b channels instead of consumer-facing retail outlets.</text></item><item><author>ulzeraj</author><text>IMO. There should be a market for:&lt;p&gt;- Dumb panels (not monitors). Perhaps stripped down recycled smart tvs.&lt;p&gt;- Smart tvs but with user replaceable firmware. Think OpenWRT for TVs. Maybe the same guy who does the dumb panels could sell those but with a raspberry pi in place of the logic board.&lt;p&gt;Of course a monitor solves these issues but these are normally smaller and more expensive.</text></item><item><author>squarefoot</author><text>So, if I buy a so called Smart-TV (not because I like it but because traditional ones are getting harder to find) but don&amp;#x27;t set up it on my home network so it can&amp;#x27;t phone home, it could scan around anyway and find other open devices more than willing to participate in my personal data exfiltration?
If the Amazon project succeeds, I would expect in a few months most home devices manufacturers, to partner to implement it so they have a way to circumvent users choices.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Bouncingsoul1</author><text>No, your average home tv is not designed to run 24&amp;#x2F;7. These Digital Signage Monitors are supposed to do this. Try running your average costumer tv 24&amp;#x2F;7 for half a year and see how the color &amp;amp; sharpness is. Also they are repairable (normally).</text></comment>
<story><title>Amazon Sidewalk</title><url>https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Sidewalk/b?node=21328123011</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mchristen</author><text>They are oftentimes way more expense, I&amp;#x27;m guessing because you aren&amp;#x27;t subsidizing the cost with your data.</text></item><item><author>sithadmin</author><text>There is a huge market for &amp;#x27;dumb panels&amp;#x27;, under the moniker of &amp;#x27;digital signage&amp;#x27;. Nearly every major TV vendor has &amp;#x27;dumb&amp;#x27; displays SKUs on offer in many different configs. The only problem is that they aren&amp;#x27;t always easy to get one&amp;#x27;s hand on, as they usually are sold through b2b channels instead of consumer-facing retail outlets.</text></item><item><author>ulzeraj</author><text>IMO. There should be a market for:&lt;p&gt;- Dumb panels (not monitors). Perhaps stripped down recycled smart tvs.&lt;p&gt;- Smart tvs but with user replaceable firmware. Think OpenWRT for TVs. Maybe the same guy who does the dumb panels could sell those but with a raspberry pi in place of the logic board.&lt;p&gt;Of course a monitor solves these issues but these are normally smaller and more expensive.</text></item><item><author>squarefoot</author><text>So, if I buy a so called Smart-TV (not because I like it but because traditional ones are getting harder to find) but don&amp;#x27;t set up it on my home network so it can&amp;#x27;t phone home, it could scan around anyway and find other open devices more than willing to participate in my personal data exfiltration?
If the Amazon project succeeds, I would expect in a few months most home devices manufacturers, to partner to implement it so they have a way to circumvent users choices.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wlesieutre</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s regular dumb TVs around too, and reasonably priced.&lt;p&gt;Walmart&amp;#x27;s site lets you filter for &amp;quot;Smart = N&amp;quot;. Sceptre and RCA are the main brands.&lt;p&gt;For example &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.walmart.com&amp;#x2F;ip&amp;#x2F;RCA-65-Class-4K-Ultra-HD-2160P-LED-TV-RTU6549&amp;#x2F;55540605&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.walmart.com&amp;#x2F;ip&amp;#x2F;RCA-65-Class-4K-Ultra-HD-2160P-LE...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>