<story><title>America has more new spaceships on the way</title><url>https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/after-dragons-historic-docking-america-has-more-new-spaceships-on-the-way/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>aerophilic</author><text>Interesting they didn’t also include Blue Origin in the mix: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.blueorigin.com&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.blueorigin.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;In my opinion, we should see crewed sub-orbital flights from them within the year, and possibly crewed orbital flights in the 4-8 year time frame... where those crewed orbital flights may have capacity to go all the way to the moon.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>valuearb</author><text>BO has been testing New Shepherd for four years with little visible progress, hoping for crewed flights this year is audacious. It’s unclear whether New Shepherd will even be continued based on all the other projects on their plate, and the likely limited demand for their minimal joyrides.&lt;p&gt;And calling them sub-orbital is being generous. Mercury suborbital flights flew much higher and faster, and actually covered hundreds of miles in a parabolic arc. By comparison New Shepherd is a toy, a very expensive trampoline.</text></comment>
<story><title>America has more new spaceships on the way</title><url>https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/after-dragons-historic-docking-america-has-more-new-spaceships-on-the-way/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>aerophilic</author><text>Interesting they didn’t also include Blue Origin in the mix: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.blueorigin.com&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.blueorigin.com&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;In my opinion, we should see crewed sub-orbital flights from them within the year, and possibly crewed orbital flights in the 4-8 year time frame... where those crewed orbital flights may have capacity to go all the way to the moon.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>51Cards</author><text>I keep wondering if Blue Origin has something up their sleeve.  New Shepard has a great track record but only for sub-orbital hops so far and hasn&amp;#x27;t yet carried human passengers after 12 successful flights. The New Glen concept looks interesting but it has been in the works for a long time with nothing visible yet. They do also have a great engine in development with customers for it. Several years back Blue Origin used to friendly troll SpaceX on who was leading who but now it&amp;#x27;s not even talked about.  I&amp;#x27;ll be curious to see how complete New Glen is when they roll it out as more competition, more better.</text></comment>