<story><title>PyCon Code of Conduct changed to avoid public shaming</title><url>https://github.com/python/pycon-code-of-conduct/commit/500a3d25c27065598002f7c999de3fdfb7ab18b1</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>imsofuture</author><text>1) You don&apos;t get to tell someone what is offensive to them.
2) Totally agree, it was not a wise choice.
3) You don&apos;t get to tell someone what is offensive to them.
4) You don&apos;t get to tell someone what is offensive to them.
5) You don&apos;t get to tell someone what is offensive to them.
6) It&apos;s true, not all the best choices were made.</text></item><item><author>OoTheNigerian</author><text>After reading all sides of the story, I see why there is so much anger towards Adria. However, it is unacceptable for her or SendGrid to be attacked digitally.&lt;p&gt;Adria did an arguably right thing in a wrong way at the wrong time.&lt;p&gt;1. Assuming the way she said it happened is correct, the guys behind her made a &lt;i&gt;sexual&lt;/i&gt; (forking/fucking; Dongle/Penis) not sexist joke. If it were even to be seen as sexist, it was towards men.&lt;p&gt;2. I find it hard to see how taking their pictures and &quot;shaming&quot; them would have made anything thing better. It only set them up to be lynched verbally or otherwise.&lt;p&gt;3. It was a PRIVATE conversation in a public setting that was overheard. It happens to the best of us. There are 100s of bloopers on YouTube of broadcasters saying embarrassing things when the mic was supposed to be off.&lt;p&gt;4. She appears hypocritical because at the same PYCON she sexual jokes on Twitter (far much more public) while representing her company (having your company on your profile is almost same as wearing a badge at a conference. Not to include the use of the PYCON hashtag)&lt;p&gt;5. As a DEVELOPER evangelist for her company, she should be more patient with developers by a massive factor compared to people in other roles. It makes no sense evangelizing for/to people that would be uncomfortable dealing with you. Appeal to understanding, not fear.&lt;p&gt;6. It is good to know she can stand for herself. Unfortunately, I have to say she got the incident and methodology wrong.&lt;p&gt;All this will pass, and hopefully serve as a lesson for participants and us observers.&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Edited: Spelling of Adria&lt;/i&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>drharris</author><text>You seem to believe that offense is subjective to the individual. Should we then be responsible for everything we do that offends others? What level of recourse should they have for being offended? If we think that punitive action is appropriate given an offense, how do we determine what a legitimate offense is, versus a non-legitimate offense?</text></comment>
<story><title>PyCon Code of Conduct changed to avoid public shaming</title><url>https://github.com/python/pycon-code-of-conduct/commit/500a3d25c27065598002f7c999de3fdfb7ab18b1</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>imsofuture</author><text>1) You don&apos;t get to tell someone what is offensive to them.
2) Totally agree, it was not a wise choice.
3) You don&apos;t get to tell someone what is offensive to them.
4) You don&apos;t get to tell someone what is offensive to them.
5) You don&apos;t get to tell someone what is offensive to them.
6) It&apos;s true, not all the best choices were made.</text></item><item><author>OoTheNigerian</author><text>After reading all sides of the story, I see why there is so much anger towards Adria. However, it is unacceptable for her or SendGrid to be attacked digitally.&lt;p&gt;Adria did an arguably right thing in a wrong way at the wrong time.&lt;p&gt;1. Assuming the way she said it happened is correct, the guys behind her made a &lt;i&gt;sexual&lt;/i&gt; (forking/fucking; Dongle/Penis) not sexist joke. If it were even to be seen as sexist, it was towards men.&lt;p&gt;2. I find it hard to see how taking their pictures and &quot;shaming&quot; them would have made anything thing better. It only set them up to be lynched verbally or otherwise.&lt;p&gt;3. It was a PRIVATE conversation in a public setting that was overheard. It happens to the best of us. There are 100s of bloopers on YouTube of broadcasters saying embarrassing things when the mic was supposed to be off.&lt;p&gt;4. She appears hypocritical because at the same PYCON she sexual jokes on Twitter (far much more public) while representing her company (having your company on your profile is almost same as wearing a badge at a conference. Not to include the use of the PYCON hashtag)&lt;p&gt;5. As a DEVELOPER evangelist for her company, she should be more patient with developers by a massive factor compared to people in other roles. It makes no sense evangelizing for/to people that would be uncomfortable dealing with you. Appeal to understanding, not fear.&lt;p&gt;6. It is good to know she can stand for herself. Unfortunately, I have to say she got the incident and methodology wrong.&lt;p&gt;All this will pass, and hopefully serve as a lesson for participants and us observers.&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Edited: Spelling of Adria&lt;/i&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>aviraldg</author><text>Then that someone doesn&apos;t get to publicly shame me for what is offensive to them, and doesn&apos;t have the right to ask me to stop.&lt;p&gt;My joke. Not meant for you. Stop listening.</text></comment>