<story><title>BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to chip shortage</title><url>https://www.autoblog.com/2021/11/05/bmws-losing-touchscreen-functionality/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cronix</author><text>Whatever touchscreen you provide, my phone will be better, smoother, have a more polished UI and easily upgradable to stay current. Navigation apps are infinitely better than what you get stuck with, and I can navigate by voice using state of the art tech that keeps getting better with updates. Just give me a decent phone holder (upgradable) and bluetooth, and make that bluetooth a module that can be swapped out as newer bluetooth versions become available like swapping out an old ISA card on a PC. Same with usb. You buy a 10 year old car and get stuck with ancient USB ports with very low charging rates that don&amp;#x27;t really interface with modern equipment. All this &amp;quot;modern&amp;quot; crap dates the car before the actual utility of the car (a thing to get you places) does.&lt;p&gt;I am thankful for the physical audio volume knob on the dashboard. I literally don&amp;#x27;t even use the touchscreen (except to change the clock 2x a year), as I have a lovely 12&amp;quot; tablet that does everything I want with a large beautiful display that is easy to read, blocking it. That&amp;#x27;s on a 2019 model.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>pkulak</author><text>I was on that train for a long time, but I&amp;#x27;ve swung all the way around to the other side now. I want my nav available without me having to take my phone out of my pocket and hook it up (even if it&amp;#x27;s wireless, which comes with its own issues). Like, I want to sit in the seat, then scroll through recent destinations with a button on the steering wheel and be done.&lt;p&gt;Also, and this is huge, I want the turns in the HUD. Before you have one, a HUD is a dumb gimmick. I got one on my current car just because that&amp;#x27;s what was on the lot... and boy oh boy, I&amp;#x27;m not going back to looking next to my knee before every turn. Not gonna lie, I&amp;#x27;m an average driver at best. I need to be focused on the road at all times. Glancing away is all the time the car in front needs to slam on its brakes.&lt;p&gt;The trade off is not the absolute, most accurate turn by turn directions; not taking the best and latest traffic into account at all times. But I&amp;#x27;ve also found that I&amp;#x27;m not cool with weaving through neighborhoods to save 3 minutes. Putting on a good podcast and sitting on the freeway is okay with me.</text></comment>
<story><title>BMW removing touchscreen from a bunch of models due to chip shortage</title><url>https://www.autoblog.com/2021/11/05/bmws-losing-touchscreen-functionality/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cronix</author><text>Whatever touchscreen you provide, my phone will be better, smoother, have a more polished UI and easily upgradable to stay current. Navigation apps are infinitely better than what you get stuck with, and I can navigate by voice using state of the art tech that keeps getting better with updates. Just give me a decent phone holder (upgradable) and bluetooth, and make that bluetooth a module that can be swapped out as newer bluetooth versions become available like swapping out an old ISA card on a PC. Same with usb. You buy a 10 year old car and get stuck with ancient USB ports with very low charging rates that don&amp;#x27;t really interface with modern equipment. All this &amp;quot;modern&amp;quot; crap dates the car before the actual utility of the car (a thing to get you places) does.&lt;p&gt;I am thankful for the physical audio volume knob on the dashboard. I literally don&amp;#x27;t even use the touchscreen (except to change the clock 2x a year), as I have a lovely 12&amp;quot; tablet that does everything I want with a large beautiful display that is easy to read, blocking it. That&amp;#x27;s on a 2019 model.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>maxdo</author><text>Whatever you refer is a bad implementation of your car. They not able to supply you with decent update system and maps. I never use a phone in my car, and that&amp;#x27;s the best thing I experience in the car since 3g start working good during trip. You have good big screen for navigation, you don&amp;#x27;t need this ugly phone mounts in the car, it doesn&amp;#x27;t fall-off during turns, you don&amp;#x27;t need stupid wires. That&amp;#x27;s a right way to implement it. When car manufacture put a big decent screen with good brightness and willing to pay tiny fraction of the car price to maps API provider. If BMW is not willing to do that in 2021 they are bad manufacture that it.</text></comment>