<story><title>There’s no such thing as a tree phylogenetically (2021)</title><url>https://eukaryotewritesblog.com/2021/05/02/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-tree/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>thanatropism</author><text>Welcome to &amp;quot;A thousand plateaus&amp;quot; by Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari.&lt;p&gt;ATP is a political book, albeit not a book about politics. But in the process of building their radical political theory, they build a radical general systems theory that&amp;#x27;s u-n-m-a-t-c-h-e-d. We have no choice but to study it.&lt;p&gt;This doesn&amp;#x27;t do it justice, but it&amp;#x27;s a fair beginning. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Rhizome_(philosophy)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Rhizome_(philosophy)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is an illustrated audio reading of the first chapter of ATP (the one dedicated to rhizomes): &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=0XYc2scuJrI&amp;amp;t=64s&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=0XYc2scuJrI&amp;amp;t=64s&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>zopa</author><text>I’m not yet persuaded this is relevant, at all. This isn’t a case where hierarchy fails us: we have a perfectly good and natural hierarchical model of speciation based on descent from common ancestors. That model doesn’t give us the common-sense notion of a tree, but that’s fine: so much the worse for common sense.&lt;p&gt;If instead we used a D&amp;amp;G rhizome that “connects any point to any other point” — we’d be dropping the notion of time (ie, ancestors precede descendants). Which when we’re talking about evolution, seems bad.&lt;p&gt;If horizontal gene transfer were a big part of the story here, that’d be different. Or if your ecology has time travel, or interstellar exchange ala Butler’s Xenogenesis, then sure, rhizome away.</text></comment>
<story><title>There’s no such thing as a tree phylogenetically (2021)</title><url>https://eukaryotewritesblog.com/2021/05/02/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-tree/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>thanatropism</author><text>Welcome to &amp;quot;A thousand plateaus&amp;quot; by Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari.&lt;p&gt;ATP is a political book, albeit not a book about politics. But in the process of building their radical political theory, they build a radical general systems theory that&amp;#x27;s u-n-m-a-t-c-h-e-d. We have no choice but to study it.&lt;p&gt;This doesn&amp;#x27;t do it justice, but it&amp;#x27;s a fair beginning. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Rhizome_(philosophy)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Rhizome_(philosophy)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is an illustrated audio reading of the first chapter of ATP (the one dedicated to rhizomes): &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=0XYc2scuJrI&amp;amp;t=64s&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=0XYc2scuJrI&amp;amp;t=64s&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>feoren</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m confused. Does this word-vomit have anything at all to do with the article you&amp;#x27;re commenting on?</text></comment>