<story><title>Google reveals fistful of flaws in Apple&apos;s iMessage app</title><url>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49165946</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tristor</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m honestly appalled at the number of comments in this thread trying to lambast Project Zero for the good work they do in improving software security.  Even if Google specifically started and ran Project Zero to target competitor&amp;#x27;s products (which they didn&amp;#x27;t, and they don&amp;#x27;t, there&amp;#x27;s over 100 bugs found by P0 in Google products), it wouldn&amp;#x27;t matter because the effect would still be that the online world is a safer place with more secure software.&lt;p&gt;Of all places, I thought Hacker News would have a community which understands the critical importance of security research and the fact that fixing software security bugs is a net benefit to everyone, every time, all the time.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Already__Taken</author><text>When there&amp;#x27;s a cure for cancer that prevents Alzheimer&amp;#x27;s and grants immortality I&amp;#x27;ll come to HN to find out why it&amp;#x27;s shitty.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s a trove of clever people on HN, I never lookup usernames or track who posts what. It&amp;#x27;s enlightening in a way to remember even smart people are still people.</text></comment>
<story><title>Google reveals fistful of flaws in Apple&apos;s iMessage app</title><url>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-49165946</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tristor</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m honestly appalled at the number of comments in this thread trying to lambast Project Zero for the good work they do in improving software security.  Even if Google specifically started and ran Project Zero to target competitor&amp;#x27;s products (which they didn&amp;#x27;t, and they don&amp;#x27;t, there&amp;#x27;s over 100 bugs found by P0 in Google products), it wouldn&amp;#x27;t matter because the effect would still be that the online world is a safer place with more secure software.&lt;p&gt;Of all places, I thought Hacker News would have a community which understands the critical importance of security research and the fact that fixing software security bugs is a net benefit to everyone, every time, all the time.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ziddoap</author><text>This echo&amp;#x27;s exactly what I was thinking.&lt;p&gt;I suppose once you hate something, it becomes impossible to acknowledge that any good can come from that thing. Which is unfortunate.&lt;p&gt;There is a plethora of things I really don&amp;#x27;t like about Google, but I make a conscious effort (and it&amp;#x27;s hard sometimes!) to acknowledge the good they do, when they do it.&lt;p&gt;P0 is one of the things in the &amp;quot;good&amp;quot; column of Google.</text></comment>