<story><title>Apple will charge 27% commission for alternative payment systems in Netherlands</title><url>https://9to5mac.com/2022/02/04/apple-will-charge-27-commission-for-purchases-made-using-alternative-payment-systems-in-the-netherlands/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jsnell</author><text>Is it really nuts though? This should be a completely unsurprising move, given this is exactly what Play Store did in South Korea [0]. That&amp;#x27;s three months old, has anyone heard of a followup suggesting their solution is being treated non-compliant by the regulators? This solution also seems to be in line with what the US courts found in the Epic vs. Apple case.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Imagine if in the past Apple would have had to pay 30% of their gross to Microsoft in order to be allowed to run their software on Windows.&lt;p&gt;Anyone making software for the Xbox has to pay Microsoft. Why is this different?&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;developers-kr.googleblog.com&amp;#x2F;2021&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;enabling-alternative-billing-in-korea-en.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;developers-kr.googleblog.com&amp;#x2F;2021&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;enabling-altern...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Edit: Good grief, people. I am not pro-App Store. But jacquesm is literally claiming that Apple is nuts and that their solution will never fly. But everything we&amp;#x27;ve seen so far in analogous cases suggests it will.</text></item><item><author>jacquesm</author><text>They&amp;#x27;re nuts. All they are doing is setting themselves up for another set of lawsuits.&lt;p&gt;Seriously: Apple should focus on selling hardware and be happy to facilitate those payments that people - and application developers - voluntarily process through their system.&lt;p&gt;All this stupid taxation of other peoples&amp;#x27; businesses should stop, it is anti-competitive behavior that they themselves would never tolerate.&lt;p&gt;Imagine if in the past Apple would have had to pay 30% of their gross to Microsoft in order to be allowed to run their software on Windows.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Tijdreiziger</author><text>&amp;gt; That&amp;#x27;s three months old, has anyone heard of a followup suggesting their solution is being treated non-compliant by the regulators?&lt;p&gt;Yes, reported on yesterday by Reuters [1]:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; As for Google&amp;#x27;s plan, the official said the KCC was aware of concern over Google&amp;#x27;s planned policy of only reducing its service charge to developers by 4 percentage points when users choose an alternative billing system, and the regulator is waiting for additional information from Google.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;As a result of any policy, if app developers find it realistically difficult to use an alternative payment system and resort to using the dominant app store operator&amp;#x27;s payment system, it would not fit the law&amp;#x27;s purpose,&amp;quot; the official said, adding that this stance would likely be reflected in the final ordinance.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.reuters.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;skorea-seeks-improved-compliance-plans-apple-google-app-store-law-2022-02-03&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.reuters.com&amp;#x2F;technology&amp;#x2F;skorea-seeks-improved-com...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple will charge 27% commission for alternative payment systems in Netherlands</title><url>https://9to5mac.com/2022/02/04/apple-will-charge-27-commission-for-purchases-made-using-alternative-payment-systems-in-the-netherlands/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jsnell</author><text>Is it really nuts though? This should be a completely unsurprising move, given this is exactly what Play Store did in South Korea [0]. That&amp;#x27;s three months old, has anyone heard of a followup suggesting their solution is being treated non-compliant by the regulators? This solution also seems to be in line with what the US courts found in the Epic vs. Apple case.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Imagine if in the past Apple would have had to pay 30% of their gross to Microsoft in order to be allowed to run their software on Windows.&lt;p&gt;Anyone making software for the Xbox has to pay Microsoft. Why is this different?&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;developers-kr.googleblog.com&amp;#x2F;2021&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;enabling-alternative-billing-in-korea-en.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;developers-kr.googleblog.com&amp;#x2F;2021&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;enabling-altern...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Edit: Good grief, people. I am not pro-App Store. But jacquesm is literally claiming that Apple is nuts and that their solution will never fly. But everything we&amp;#x27;ve seen so far in analogous cases suggests it will.</text></item><item><author>jacquesm</author><text>They&amp;#x27;re nuts. All they are doing is setting themselves up for another set of lawsuits.&lt;p&gt;Seriously: Apple should focus on selling hardware and be happy to facilitate those payments that people - and application developers - voluntarily process through their system.&lt;p&gt;All this stupid taxation of other peoples&amp;#x27; businesses should stop, it is anti-competitive behavior that they themselves would never tolerate.&lt;p&gt;Imagine if in the past Apple would have had to pay 30% of their gross to Microsoft in order to be allowed to run their software on Windows.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>clusterfish</author><text>Why? Because how much you have to pay is determined by how much the platform owner can get away with. There is no fundamental logic to it other than market power. Why don&amp;#x27;t you compare to better, open platforms instead - desktop apps, the web. Why does everything has to be as shitty as something else.</text></comment>