<story><title>Ask HN: Who has had a successful PWA product?</title><text>They say to find someone who’s done what you want to do. We’ll, I want to re-launch a successful progressive web app (PWA). I had some success  ($500 MRR) with shareware, 20 years ago, but those methods probably don’t work anymore. What does work?&lt;p&gt;If you’ve had success, maybe you would be willing to exchange some email?</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>throwaway9143</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ll give you a hard-earned tip: expect to fight Apple every step of the way. They will randomly erase &lt;i&gt;all local data&lt;/i&gt; (cookies, localstorage, push subscription tokens, etc) in your PWA without warning. They say they don&amp;#x27;t do this, but I have the receipts. They want PWAs to suffer, and you will go insane trying to make workarounds on iPhone.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>metadat</author><text>Are you saying the Safari browser on iOS intentionally cripples web applications by randomly erasing &amp;#x2F; deleting browser data (cookies, localStorage, etc)?  And this happens on purpose because apple wants to boost App Store Apps usage?&lt;p&gt;If there is evidence of the veracity of this claim, this topic deserves a whole lot more attention.  Especially considering Apple&amp;#x27;s stance on 3rd party mobile web browser engines - Apple forbids them, although EU regulation may force this to change.&lt;p&gt;I searched a bit and found no smoking gun, the closest hit was:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;old.reddit.com&amp;#x2F;r&amp;#x2F;Safari&amp;#x2F;comments&amp;#x2F;185cra6&amp;#x2F;safari_nuking_cookies_and_local_storage_randomly&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;old.reddit.com&amp;#x2F;r&amp;#x2F;Safari&amp;#x2F;comments&amp;#x2F;185cra6&amp;#x2F;safari_nuki...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;But it seems more likely caused by legitimate bugs than any intentional campaign.&lt;p&gt;Have I been nerdsniped here by a nutter? :-s</text></comment>
<story><title>Ask HN: Who has had a successful PWA product?</title><text>They say to find someone who’s done what you want to do. We’ll, I want to re-launch a successful progressive web app (PWA). I had some success  ($500 MRR) with shareware, 20 years ago, but those methods probably don’t work anymore. What does work?&lt;p&gt;If you’ve had success, maybe you would be willing to exchange some email?</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>throwaway9143</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ll give you a hard-earned tip: expect to fight Apple every step of the way. They will randomly erase &lt;i&gt;all local data&lt;/i&gt; (cookies, localstorage, push subscription tokens, etc) in your PWA without warning. They say they don&amp;#x27;t do this, but I have the receipts. They want PWAs to suffer, and you will go insane trying to make workarounds on iPhone.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bob1029</author><text>My most recent workaround for this is to put a session identifier in the URL somewhere and keep literally everything else on the server.&lt;p&gt;You essentially have to build your app from zero with these limitations in mind if you want any chance at getting around them.&lt;p&gt;This is a large part of why I am not a fan of frameworks and other popular design patterns. Having total control over how state is managed and communicated is really important if you don&amp;#x27;t want to get trapped in various tar pits.</text></comment>