<story><title>The Great CPU Stagnation</title><url>http://databasearchitects.blogspot.com/2023/04/the-great-cpu-stagnation.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bhouston</author><text>This &amp;quot;stagnation&amp;quot; is nothing like the stagnation during AMD&amp;#x27;s poorly performing Bulldozer era (the post Athlon era) where they were consistently beat by Intel&amp;#x27;s offerings and there was a general lack of innovation in the prosumer space.&lt;p&gt;During that era for the most part Intel&amp;#x27;s i7 prosumer CPUs started with 4 cores with the Bloomfield Nehalem chips in 2008 (which at the time were awesome and a game changer) and ended with 4 cores with the Kaby Lake-S in 2017.  It really only changed in 2017 with AMD Ryzen forcing Intel to actually increase core count.&lt;p&gt;2008 Nehalem benchmark: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;SpeedTest&amp;#x2F;778&amp;#x2F;IntelR-CoreTM-i7-CPU---------960----320GHz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;SpeedTest&amp;#x2F;778&amp;#x2F;IntelR-CoreTM-i7...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;2017 Kaby Lake-S benchmark: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;Intel-Core-i7-7700&amp;#x2F;Rating&amp;#x2F;3887&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;Intel-Core-i7-7700&amp;#x2F;Rating&amp;#x2F;3887&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;When I compare the two, it shows an effective 20% speed increase, although microbenchmarks show a 50% increase.  That is a stagnation.&lt;p&gt;During that era it felt like a lost decade.  I don&amp;#x27;t miss it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>MindSpunk</author><text>Not saying you&amp;#x27;re wrong, because intel stagnation was very real, but please don&amp;#x27;t use userbenchmark as a source of numbers for anything. They&amp;#x27;re a terrible source with biased benchmarks and reporting. Just look at the dribble they write  for basically any AMD product on their site (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;SpeedTest&amp;#x2F;1817839&amp;#x2F;AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X3D-8-Core-Processor&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;SpeedTest&amp;#x2F;1817839&amp;#x2F;AMD-Ryzen-7-...&lt;/a&gt;, or this &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;SpeedTest&amp;#x2F;2081998&amp;#x2F;AMD-Ryzen-7-7800X3D-8-Core-Processor&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;SpeedTest&amp;#x2F;2081998&amp;#x2F;AMD-Ryzen-7-...&lt;/a&gt; which just find-and-replaces half the 5800X3D comments).</text></comment>
<story><title>The Great CPU Stagnation</title><url>http://databasearchitects.blogspot.com/2023/04/the-great-cpu-stagnation.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bhouston</author><text>This &amp;quot;stagnation&amp;quot; is nothing like the stagnation during AMD&amp;#x27;s poorly performing Bulldozer era (the post Athlon era) where they were consistently beat by Intel&amp;#x27;s offerings and there was a general lack of innovation in the prosumer space.&lt;p&gt;During that era for the most part Intel&amp;#x27;s i7 prosumer CPUs started with 4 cores with the Bloomfield Nehalem chips in 2008 (which at the time were awesome and a game changer) and ended with 4 cores with the Kaby Lake-S in 2017.  It really only changed in 2017 with AMD Ryzen forcing Intel to actually increase core count.&lt;p&gt;2008 Nehalem benchmark: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;SpeedTest&amp;#x2F;778&amp;#x2F;IntelR-CoreTM-i7-CPU---------960----320GHz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;SpeedTest&amp;#x2F;778&amp;#x2F;IntelR-CoreTM-i7...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;2017 Kaby Lake-S benchmark: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;Intel-Core-i7-7700&amp;#x2F;Rating&amp;#x2F;3887&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;cpu.userbenchmark.com&amp;#x2F;Intel-Core-i7-7700&amp;#x2F;Rating&amp;#x2F;3887&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;When I compare the two, it shows an effective 20% speed increase, although microbenchmarks show a 50% increase.  That is a stagnation.&lt;p&gt;During that era it felt like a lost decade.  I don&amp;#x27;t miss it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>semi-extrinsic</author><text>Can confirm, I bought a pair of desktops for work in 2012 with Ivy Brige i7&amp;#x27;s that could &amp;quot;turbo boost&amp;quot; to 3.9 GHz indefinitely without overclock. I did not feel a real upgrade need until the 32 core Threadripper machines came out in 2018.</text></comment>