<story><title>Apple discriminated against US citizens in hiring, DOJ says</title><url>https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/11/apple-discriminated-against-us-citizens-in-hiring-doj-says/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ChrisMarshallNY</author><text>I suspect that this is more a &amp;quot;certain managers wanted certain types of employees,&amp;quot; as opposed to a systemic, companywide decree from Up High (like IBM&amp;#x27;s ageism).&lt;p&gt;Apple just makes too damn much money to worry overmuch about salaries. If anything, a lot of managers like H1Bs, because they can drive them like slaves. I&amp;#x27;ve seen exactly that, in front of my own eyes. It&amp;#x27;s pretty disturbing, if you are a manager like me.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Jochim</author><text>Weren&amp;#x27;t Apple one of the ringleaders in the conspiracy to suppress wages between the large tech companies a few years back?</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple discriminated against US citizens in hiring, DOJ says</title><url>https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/11/apple-discriminated-against-us-citizens-in-hiring-doj-says/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ChrisMarshallNY</author><text>I suspect that this is more a &amp;quot;certain managers wanted certain types of employees,&amp;quot; as opposed to a systemic, companywide decree from Up High (like IBM&amp;#x27;s ageism).&lt;p&gt;Apple just makes too damn much money to worry overmuch about salaries. If anything, a lot of managers like H1Bs, because they can drive them like slaves. I&amp;#x27;ve seen exactly that, in front of my own eyes. It&amp;#x27;s pretty disturbing, if you are a manager like me.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>raincom</author><text>Well, if X is working for a manager M for 3 years at Apple(for that matter, any company), M wants to make sure that wheoever applies to X&amp;#x27;s role during the PERM process (labor certification to ensure that no US citizens&amp;#x2F;perm residents are available to fill X&amp;#x27;s role) gets dinged 100%, no exceptions whatsoever. The way they can ding applicants takes shape in different forms: (a) make the job very very specific, thereby showing that other applicants don&amp;#x27;t have specific skills (b) make the job very generic, then ask for very very precise skills that X&amp;#x27;s role needs (c) make the interview really tough (d) add extra rounds of interviews (e) a combination of all of the foregoing.</text></comment>