<story><title>Disabling the Intel Management Engine</title><url>https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sakaki%27s_EFI_Install_Guide/Disabling_the_Intel_Management_Engine</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jordigh</author><text>It makes me so unhappy that this is what things have come to. They make hardware that we can&amp;#x27;t control, there&amp;#x27;s no real alternative to buy, and now we gotta rely on volunteers and wiki pages to give instructions that might work but who knows you might brick it.&lt;p&gt;I wish there was more widespread outrage over ME and PSP and &amp;quot;trusted computing&amp;quot; so we could collectively tell them to stop selling this garbage. There&amp;#x27;s so much cynicism out there, though, that I think the public would hardly bat an eye if they knew that all hardware since 2008 or so has secret backdoors. We&amp;#x27;re just used to this kind of abuse and control.&lt;p&gt;I haven&amp;#x27;t bought a new computer since 2007 because I don&amp;#x27;t want backdoored hardware. If it really is For My Own Safety, as they advertise it to us, then let me control it!</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jknz</author><text>It seems strange to me that the European Union is allowing this. The fact that a foreign company has a backdoor in every computer running in European countries is so concerning on so many levels. Defense ministers from European countries should wake up and outlaw this.&lt;p&gt;Of course, there is no specificity to the EU here -- this applies to Russia, China and other countries too.&lt;p&gt;Edit: maybe Intel is already eligible to a € multiple Billions fine from the EU based on this? (Disclaimer: I have no clue about how such fine works).</text></comment>
<story><title>Disabling the Intel Management Engine</title><url>https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sakaki%27s_EFI_Install_Guide/Disabling_the_Intel_Management_Engine</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jordigh</author><text>It makes me so unhappy that this is what things have come to. They make hardware that we can&amp;#x27;t control, there&amp;#x27;s no real alternative to buy, and now we gotta rely on volunteers and wiki pages to give instructions that might work but who knows you might brick it.&lt;p&gt;I wish there was more widespread outrage over ME and PSP and &amp;quot;trusted computing&amp;quot; so we could collectively tell them to stop selling this garbage. There&amp;#x27;s so much cynicism out there, though, that I think the public would hardly bat an eye if they knew that all hardware since 2008 or so has secret backdoors. We&amp;#x27;re just used to this kind of abuse and control.&lt;p&gt;I haven&amp;#x27;t bought a new computer since 2007 because I don&amp;#x27;t want backdoored hardware. If it really is For My Own Safety, as they advertise it to us, then let me control it!</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>roblabla</author><text>Next time I change laptop (which will probably happen soon, my laptop is also a 2007 hardware), it will be a Librem 13 from Purism. I want to send money to a company that cares about this issue, and Purism has demonstrated they do multiple times already[0][1].&lt;p&gt;I know purism is just neutralizing IME, so it&amp;#x27;s the same as this, but they&amp;#x27;re the best solution right now, and I hope that by supporting them, I participate in a clear message to the industry that I don&amp;#x27;t want their undocumented blackbox on my hardware. Who knows ? Maybe one of the major players will take the hint and try to remove them, or document them. Or maybe a new player will displace them.&lt;p&gt;[0]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;puri.sm&amp;#x2F;posts&amp;#x2F;reverse-engineering-the-intel-management-engine-romp-module&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;puri.sm&amp;#x2F;posts&amp;#x2F;reverse-engineering-the-intel-manageme...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;puri.sm&amp;#x2F;posts&amp;#x2F;neutralizing-intel-management-engine-on-librem-laptops&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;puri.sm&amp;#x2F;posts&amp;#x2F;neutralizing-intel-management-engine-o...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>