<story><title>Big meat can’t quit antibiotics</title><url>https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/1/8/23542789/big-meat-antibiotics-resistance-fda</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>notafraudster</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m sorry you lost your wife. My wife had a near-death medical experience last year (a stroke, completely unrelated) and I was never as emotionally empty and destroyed as I was during the ten minutes I thought I lost her and subsequent days worrying about her recovery.&lt;p&gt;You linked an interview with Childrens&amp;#x27; Health Defense, an organization whose primary purpose is to argue, categorically, that all vaccinations are dangerous and do not work. They are the largest such organization and their activism has been directly responsible for the growth in resistance to MMR vaccination and later to COVID-19 vaccination.&lt;p&gt;This does not mean that the point about a class of antibiotics is incorrect, and I understand that there&amp;#x27;s a possibility of &amp;quot;strange bedfellows&amp;quot; here because of the potential agreement on the matter of, uh, &amp;quot;big pharma&amp;quot;. As I see it, one possibility is that you linked the CHD article not knowing this. Another possibility is that you linked the CHD article knowing this, but figuring just because they&amp;#x27;re wrong about vaccines doesn&amp;#x27;t tarnish them on this issue. Another possibility is that you generally agree with their position on vaccines.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not here to judge or change your mind, I&amp;#x27;m just telling you that I don&amp;#x27;t have any prior view about whatever fluoroquinolone antibiotics are. I read the first half of your post wanting to do more investigation. Because of the CHD link inclusion, I am now predisposed not to believe this is a real issue. I am a non-medical social scientist but I have spent a lot of the COVID period publishing work about vaccination. Anti-vaxx stuff is a complete deal-breaker for me. And if your reason for posting was to persuade an audience, I think that&amp;#x27;s the opposite of what you want.</text></item><item><author>rpaddock</author><text>Fluoroquinolone Antibiotics such as Cipro are often given to animals because they are cheap.  They are in no way at all safe for people or animals.
Sadly as the parent article shows, the FDA doesn&amp;#x27;t care.&lt;p&gt;The book: 
&amp;quot;Taking On Big Pharma: Dr. Charles Bennett&amp;#x27;s Battle&amp;quot; was released this week.&lt;p&gt;I was asked to go with Dr Bennett to speak to members of Congress about the dangers of Fluoroquinolone Antibiotics. As these were a significant contributor to my late wife&amp;#x27;s suicide. Alas that was right as the world changed at the start of the pandemic and derailed those plans.&lt;p&gt;I have the many FDA warning for Fluoroquinolone Antibiotics here:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.kpaddock.com&amp;#x2F;fq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.kpaddock.com&amp;#x2F;fq&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;People just don&amp;#x27;t expect side effects like permanent psychoses to come from their antibiotics, as one of the most recent FDA warnings documents.&lt;p&gt;Dr Bennetts new book:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.amazon.com&amp;#x2F;Taking-Big-Pharma-Bennetts-Childrens&amp;#x2F;dp&amp;#x2F;1510775412&amp;#x2F;ref=sr_1_1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.amazon.com&amp;#x2F;Taking-Big-Pharma-Bennetts-Childrens&amp;#x2F;...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;His related interview:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;live.childrenshealthdefense.org&amp;#x2F;chd-tv&amp;#x2F;shows&amp;#x2F;doctors-and-scientists-with-brian-hooker-phd&amp;#x2F;taking-on-big-pharma--dr-charles-bennetts-battle&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;live.childrenshealthdefense.org&amp;#x2F;chd-tv&amp;#x2F;shows&amp;#x2F;doctors...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rpaddock</author><text>The interview is where it is, which I have no control over.  I would have posted Dr. B&amp;#x27;s interview where ever it was as it is related to the Big Pharma book release.  He is considered one of the worlds experts on drug adverse advents.&lt;p&gt;That there are adverse advents with multiple (All?) Big Pharma products is also something I have no control over.&lt;p&gt;I supplied a link to my late wife&amp;#x27;s page where all the FDA warnings are linked to directly.  The other links can be ignored if that is your desire.</text></comment>
<story><title>Big meat can’t quit antibiotics</title><url>https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2023/1/8/23542789/big-meat-antibiotics-resistance-fda</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>notafraudster</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m sorry you lost your wife. My wife had a near-death medical experience last year (a stroke, completely unrelated) and I was never as emotionally empty and destroyed as I was during the ten minutes I thought I lost her and subsequent days worrying about her recovery.&lt;p&gt;You linked an interview with Childrens&amp;#x27; Health Defense, an organization whose primary purpose is to argue, categorically, that all vaccinations are dangerous and do not work. They are the largest such organization and their activism has been directly responsible for the growth in resistance to MMR vaccination and later to COVID-19 vaccination.&lt;p&gt;This does not mean that the point about a class of antibiotics is incorrect, and I understand that there&amp;#x27;s a possibility of &amp;quot;strange bedfellows&amp;quot; here because of the potential agreement on the matter of, uh, &amp;quot;big pharma&amp;quot;. As I see it, one possibility is that you linked the CHD article not knowing this. Another possibility is that you linked the CHD article knowing this, but figuring just because they&amp;#x27;re wrong about vaccines doesn&amp;#x27;t tarnish them on this issue. Another possibility is that you generally agree with their position on vaccines.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not here to judge or change your mind, I&amp;#x27;m just telling you that I don&amp;#x27;t have any prior view about whatever fluoroquinolone antibiotics are. I read the first half of your post wanting to do more investigation. Because of the CHD link inclusion, I am now predisposed not to believe this is a real issue. I am a non-medical social scientist but I have spent a lot of the COVID period publishing work about vaccination. Anti-vaxx stuff is a complete deal-breaker for me. And if your reason for posting was to persuade an audience, I think that&amp;#x27;s the opposite of what you want.</text></item><item><author>rpaddock</author><text>Fluoroquinolone Antibiotics such as Cipro are often given to animals because they are cheap.  They are in no way at all safe for people or animals.
Sadly as the parent article shows, the FDA doesn&amp;#x27;t care.&lt;p&gt;The book: 
&amp;quot;Taking On Big Pharma: Dr. Charles Bennett&amp;#x27;s Battle&amp;quot; was released this week.&lt;p&gt;I was asked to go with Dr Bennett to speak to members of Congress about the dangers of Fluoroquinolone Antibiotics. As these were a significant contributor to my late wife&amp;#x27;s suicide. Alas that was right as the world changed at the start of the pandemic and derailed those plans.&lt;p&gt;I have the many FDA warning for Fluoroquinolone Antibiotics here:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.kpaddock.com&amp;#x2F;fq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.kpaddock.com&amp;#x2F;fq&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;People just don&amp;#x27;t expect side effects like permanent psychoses to come from their antibiotics, as one of the most recent FDA warnings documents.&lt;p&gt;Dr Bennetts new book:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.amazon.com&amp;#x2F;Taking-Big-Pharma-Bennetts-Childrens&amp;#x2F;dp&amp;#x2F;1510775412&amp;#x2F;ref=sr_1_1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.amazon.com&amp;#x2F;Taking-Big-Pharma-Bennetts-Childrens&amp;#x2F;...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;His related interview:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;live.childrenshealthdefense.org&amp;#x2F;chd-tv&amp;#x2F;shows&amp;#x2F;doctors-and-scientists-with-brian-hooker-phd&amp;#x2F;taking-on-big-pharma--dr-charles-bennetts-battle&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;live.childrenshealthdefense.org&amp;#x2F;chd-tv&amp;#x2F;shows&amp;#x2F;doctors...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Traubenfuchs</author><text>There are many different numbers floating around, but let me give you a source that claims a 0.14–0.4% &amp;quot;prevalence of FQ-induced tendon injury&amp;quot;. That&amp;#x27;s at least one in a thousand.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&amp;#x2F;pmc&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;PMC2921747&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&amp;#x2F;pmc&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;PMC2921747&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;They are also absolutely known and proven to cause permanent pain in the hand and feet (neuropathies) in some patients and &amp;quot;long lasting&amp;quot; anxiety, depression, hallucinations.&lt;p&gt;Those are just a few of the serious long term side effects they can cause.&lt;p&gt;Here is a good overview.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.mdpi.com&amp;#x2F;2673-4087&amp;#x2F;2&amp;#x2F;3&amp;#x2F;17&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.mdpi.com&amp;#x2F;2673-4087&amp;#x2F;2&amp;#x2F;3&amp;#x2F;17&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Let me conclude that sometimes they are the right choice to save someone&amp;#x27;s life or prevent serious health consequences due to infection, but in the majority of cases there would be alternative antibiotics available.</text></comment>