<story><title>Stop developing this technology</title><url>https://github.com/iperov/DeepFaceLive/issues/41</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>LeanderK</author><text>Again and again I am astonished that people without ethics exist, that they are confident in what they are doing and that they appear to be completely unable to reflect upon their actions. They just don&amp;#x27;t care and appear to be proud of it.&lt;p&gt;If this is used to scam old people out of their belongings then you really have to question your actions and imho bear some responsibility. Was it worth it? Do the positive uses outweigh their negatives? They use examples of misuse of technology as if that would free them of any guilt. As if previous errors would allow them to do anything because greater mistakes were made.&lt;p&gt;You are not, of course, completely responsible for the actions others take but if you create something you have to keep in mind bad actors exist. You can&amp;#x27;t just close your eyes if your actions lead to a strictly worse world. Old people scammed out of their savings are real people and it is real pain. I can&amp;#x27;t imagine the desperation and the helplessness following that. It really makes me angry how someone can ignore so much pain and not even engage in an argument whether it&amp;#x27;s the right thing to do.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Veen</author><text>What&amp;#x27;s as worrying, judging by the comments here and in that GitHub thread, is that there is no correlation between technical ability and ethical understanding. Perhaps naively, I&amp;#x27;d have thought someone intelligent enough to develop a technology like this would also be intelligent enough to understand the complex ethical issues it raises. It seems, unfortunately, that there is no such correlation.&lt;p&gt;In fact, anecdotally, it seems the people with the technical ability are &lt;i&gt;least&lt;/i&gt; likely to have a nuanced understanding of the ethical impact of their work (or, more optimistically, it&amp;#x27;s only people with the conjunction of technical ability and ethical idiocy who would work on this, and we&amp;#x27;re not seeing all the capable people who choose not to).&lt;p&gt;Also, what&amp;#x27;s with all the people in this thread coming up with implausible edge cases in which deep fake tech could be used ethically to justify a technology that will very obviously be used unethically in the vast majority of cases? It&amp;#x27;s almost useless for anything except deception—it is intrinsically deceptive. All the &amp;#x27;yeah but cars kill people so should we ban all cars?&amp;#x27; comments miss the obvious point that cars are extremely useful, so we accept the relatively small negatives. The ethical balance is the other way around for deep fake tech. It&amp;#x27;s almost entirely harmful, with some small use cases that might arguably be valuable to someone.</text></comment>
<story><title>Stop developing this technology</title><url>https://github.com/iperov/DeepFaceLive/issues/41</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>LeanderK</author><text>Again and again I am astonished that people without ethics exist, that they are confident in what they are doing and that they appear to be completely unable to reflect upon their actions. They just don&amp;#x27;t care and appear to be proud of it.&lt;p&gt;If this is used to scam old people out of their belongings then you really have to question your actions and imho bear some responsibility. Was it worth it? Do the positive uses outweigh their negatives? They use examples of misuse of technology as if that would free them of any guilt. As if previous errors would allow them to do anything because greater mistakes were made.&lt;p&gt;You are not, of course, completely responsible for the actions others take but if you create something you have to keep in mind bad actors exist. You can&amp;#x27;t just close your eyes if your actions lead to a strictly worse world. Old people scammed out of their savings are real people and it is real pain. I can&amp;#x27;t imagine the desperation and the helplessness following that. It really makes me angry how someone can ignore so much pain and not even engage in an argument whether it&amp;#x27;s the right thing to do.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mihaic</author><text>Agree, I&amp;#x27;ve come to believe that social ethics is something that needs to be indoctrinated from an early age, otherwise it can&amp;#x27;t naturally be developed in many people.</text></comment>