<story><title>Yabai – A tiling window manager for macOS</title><url>https://github.com/koekeishiya/yabai</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>rxhanson</author><text>If you don&amp;#x27;t mind me asking, what are the warts? I&amp;#x27;m always interested in improving the app.</text></item><item><author>CSSer</author><text>You might try Magnet. It&amp;#x27;s $10 on the mac app store. I&amp;#x27;ve had zero issues with it, and it has some problems sorted that other tools don&amp;#x27;t or haven&amp;#x27;t always, namely correctly tiling across monitors. I used to use Rectangle, which is open source and frankly pretty good but at the time I was using it had some warts. macOS&amp;#x27; window management seems to not be entirely transparent. I don&amp;#x27;t know all the details, but this is my workstation. I need(ed) this to work now, and if it&amp;#x27;s a system that might change a bit over time or has some weird idiosyncrasies then I&amp;#x27;m happily willing to pay a low one-time fee for a tool like this.</text></item><item><author>xwowsersx</author><text>Funny to see this at the top of HN after just having uninstalled Yabai. I used Yabai for about 6 weeks. I was so thrilled about having a proper tiling window manager for Mac. I invested a lot of time setting up skhd and fine-tuning my configuration for the most intuitive hotkeys. The problem ultimately, however, is that Yabai just doesn&amp;#x27;t work well enough. It&amp;#x27;ll regularly just lose track of windows altogether, which requires restarting Yabai. This and other bugs happened frequently enough that it outweighed the benefits of Yabai. I&amp;#x27;d be more than willing to try another tiling window manager on Mac if there&amp;#x27;s one out there that truly works. Related, I started checking out Stage Manager and it&amp;#x27;s pretty bad in my experience - obviously it&amp;#x27;s the opposite of a keyboard driven TWM, but I&amp;#x27;m willing to try anything that helps me maximize the limited screen space I have. I&amp;#x27;m all ears if anyone has had better experiences with other tools on Mac.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dishsoap</author><text>One difference I&amp;#x27;ve noticed is that with Magnet, if you have a window &amp;#x27;maximized&amp;#x27; by dragging it into the top of the screen or pressing the shortcut for it, when you start dragging it down from the top of the screen to unmaximize it, it instantly returns to its original size, whereas with Rectangle it stays maximized for some time after you start dragging it which is pretty annoying.&lt;p&gt;Another thing is the way Magnet moves and resizes windows seems to create less visual &amp;#x27;flashing&amp;#x27; than Rectangle&amp;#x27;s method, for instance Rectangle will resize, then move, then resize again when maximizing a window, which can create a really pronounced &amp;#x27;flashing&amp;#x27; effect. That&amp;#x27;s not to say Magnet has no &amp;#x27;flashing&amp;#x27; ever, there&amp;#x27;s certain situations where it does and to my understanding it seems necessary due to the limited nature of moving and resizing windows on macOS (I guess you have to do one then the other and can&amp;#x27;t both move and resize simultaneously?), but to me Magnet&amp;#x27;s methods often look visually better.&lt;p&gt;Rectangle is great though, I&amp;#x27;ve switched to it from Magnet and these are just some minor gripes.</text></comment>
<story><title>Yabai – A tiling window manager for macOS</title><url>https://github.com/koekeishiya/yabai</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>rxhanson</author><text>If you don&amp;#x27;t mind me asking, what are the warts? I&amp;#x27;m always interested in improving the app.</text></item><item><author>CSSer</author><text>You might try Magnet. It&amp;#x27;s $10 on the mac app store. I&amp;#x27;ve had zero issues with it, and it has some problems sorted that other tools don&amp;#x27;t or haven&amp;#x27;t always, namely correctly tiling across monitors. I used to use Rectangle, which is open source and frankly pretty good but at the time I was using it had some warts. macOS&amp;#x27; window management seems to not be entirely transparent. I don&amp;#x27;t know all the details, but this is my workstation. I need(ed) this to work now, and if it&amp;#x27;s a system that might change a bit over time or has some weird idiosyncrasies then I&amp;#x27;m happily willing to pay a low one-time fee for a tool like this.</text></item><item><author>xwowsersx</author><text>Funny to see this at the top of HN after just having uninstalled Yabai. I used Yabai for about 6 weeks. I was so thrilled about having a proper tiling window manager for Mac. I invested a lot of time setting up skhd and fine-tuning my configuration for the most intuitive hotkeys. The problem ultimately, however, is that Yabai just doesn&amp;#x27;t work well enough. It&amp;#x27;ll regularly just lose track of windows altogether, which requires restarting Yabai. This and other bugs happened frequently enough that it outweighed the benefits of Yabai. I&amp;#x27;d be more than willing to try another tiling window manager on Mac if there&amp;#x27;s one out there that truly works. Related, I started checking out Stage Manager and it&amp;#x27;s pretty bad in my experience - obviously it&amp;#x27;s the opposite of a keyboard driven TWM, but I&amp;#x27;m willing to try anything that helps me maximize the limited screen space I have. I&amp;#x27;m all ears if anyone has had better experiences with other tools on Mac.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Bagged2347</author><text>Are you the Rectangle dev? I appreciate your work! How did you get into developing tools for macOS? Were you filling your own needs?</text></comment>