<story><title>Cartridge cannot be used until printer is enrolled in HP Instant Ink</title><url>https://twitter.com/ryandonsullivan/status/1218149470220632064</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jackson1way</author><text>I don‘t understand why people keep buying these inkjet scam printers. It‘s been like this for almost 2 decades.&lt;p&gt;That‘s about the time I switched to laser printers. Currently I equipped myself and my family with a Brother HL 3152CDW. I got it for around 160-180€. The included toners print 1-2k pages. A new toner does 2-2,5k and costs around 60€ per color (genuine Brother) or around 50-60€ for a 4-color-toner set from noname brands. We have the printer since maybe 3-4 years and had to buy 1 black toner. I think I got a noname cartridge for around 25€.&lt;p&gt;If you want a smaller device and save a little money, get a b&amp;#x2F;w laser printer for less than 100€.&lt;p&gt;If I need to print photos, I go to a store with instant printing kiosks. It takes a few minutes to print dozens of photos and it‘s cheap, around 0,20-0,30€ per print (10x15cm).&lt;p&gt;I hope laser printers will never become such a scam product like inkjet...</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jaclaz</author><text>&amp;gt;I hope laser printers will never become such a scam product like inkjet...&lt;p&gt;They can already be, JFYI.&lt;p&gt;For years I had HP printers (only), when they (particularly their drivers) started to become crap (around 10 years ago) I switched to Brother (small office, 3-4 printers, very little print volume).&lt;p&gt;Lately, on two different multifunctions, &amp;quot;low cost&amp;quot; but rated for around 10,000-15,000 pages per month (we do like 1&amp;#x2F;10th of that or less) multifunction B&amp;#x2F;W laser printers, the fuser (rated for 100,000 pages) failed, on one machine at 18,000 pages, on the other at 46,000, printers are 3 or 4 years old (models DCP-8110DN and MFC-8520DN).&lt;p&gt;Cost of the spare fuser around 150 Euro! + some 30-50 Euro of labour, total 180-200.&lt;p&gt;Cost of a comparable brand new printer from Brother around 200-220 Euro.&lt;p&gt;After some research, I found out that half the world experienced the same on that particular &amp;quot;printing engine&amp;quot;, which was used on several Brother models, and new series printer use a different one, with a fuser hopefully more reliable.&lt;p&gt;Anyway, besides the money involved, the obvious choice, buying two new printers would have meant sending to waste some 15 kg x 2 = 30 kg of material, so searched and found a few videos about the issue, bought for 25 Euro each two &amp;quot;fuser refurbishing kits&amp;quot; from China (roller+sleeve+grease) and in less than two hours time I &amp;quot;fixed&amp;quot; (at least temporarily) the issue (it is too recent to know how long the fusers will last).&lt;p&gt;Imagine that your car, that you paid some 30,000 Euro and that reasonably could do 200,000 km, at 50,000 and right out of warranty breaks a piston and you can only replace the whole engine block and it is a 28,000 Euro repair.</text></comment>
<story><title>Cartridge cannot be used until printer is enrolled in HP Instant Ink</title><url>https://twitter.com/ryandonsullivan/status/1218149470220632064</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jackson1way</author><text>I don‘t understand why people keep buying these inkjet scam printers. It‘s been like this for almost 2 decades.&lt;p&gt;That‘s about the time I switched to laser printers. Currently I equipped myself and my family with a Brother HL 3152CDW. I got it for around 160-180€. The included toners print 1-2k pages. A new toner does 2-2,5k and costs around 60€ per color (genuine Brother) or around 50-60€ for a 4-color-toner set from noname brands. We have the printer since maybe 3-4 years and had to buy 1 black toner. I think I got a noname cartridge for around 25€.&lt;p&gt;If you want a smaller device and save a little money, get a b&amp;#x2F;w laser printer for less than 100€.&lt;p&gt;If I need to print photos, I go to a store with instant printing kiosks. It takes a few minutes to print dozens of photos and it‘s cheap, around 0,20-0,30€ per print (10x15cm).&lt;p&gt;I hope laser printers will never become such a scam product like inkjet...</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>GordonS</author><text>I put up with crappy inkjets for years, but last year finally had &lt;i&gt;enough&lt;/i&gt; and bought a Brother DCP-L2530DW, for only £135.&lt;p&gt;What a revelation! Cartridges that seem to last forever, it never jams, it doesn&amp;#x27;t take an eternity to start and stop, it doesn&amp;#x27;t waste ink on every startup, it doesn&amp;#x27;t need &amp;quot;realigned&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;unclogged&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;cleaned&amp;quot; 3 times &lt;i&gt;every single time&lt;/i&gt; I just want to print something...&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m never going back to inkjets. I encourage anyone who is still putting up with them to make the switch to a small laser printer.</text></comment>