<story><title>How Forensic Architecture Revealed Details of a Secret Military Prison in Syria</title><url>https://www.fastcodesign.com/3068329/infographic-of-the-day/how-forensic-architecture-revealed-details-of-a-secret-military-priso</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>philipkglass</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve been following the Syrian Civil War for the last 5 years. The null hypothesis: every faction has done horrible things. That&amp;#x27;s what happens in war. It would be an exceptional civil war indeed if the central government (or any other faction of significance) &lt;i&gt;did not&lt;/i&gt; commit atrocities. I understand not wanting one&amp;#x27;s country to be involved in the war. I don&amp;#x27;t want my country to intervene in the SCW either. I don&amp;#x27;t understand the resistance to recognizing the horrible things done in Syria (by the central government or otherwise).&lt;p&gt;Is the idea that &lt;i&gt;if&lt;/i&gt; the Syrian government commits atrocities &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt; Western powers have to intervene in the war? So to prevent a probably-disastrous intervention people need to deny that the Syrian government commits atrocities? I don&amp;#x27;t think that is a logical chain of reasoning, if that is indeed what is going on. There are all sorts of horrors in the world where additional intervention by outside powers is likely to be worse than inaction. It doesn&amp;#x27;t mean that we should pretend that the horrors don&amp;#x27;t exist.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>astrodust</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s a false equivalency here: Only one side is barrel bombing people indiscriminately, torturing people by the tens of thousands, and systematically exterminating an entire group of people.&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#x27;re right, no war is without war crimes, but the Assad regime has given up on appearances and is simply playing for keeps. They&amp;#x27;re beyond the point of no return, they&amp;#x27;re going to end up like North Korea in terms of diplomatic ties, if they survive this rebellion.</text></comment>
<story><title>How Forensic Architecture Revealed Details of a Secret Military Prison in Syria</title><url>https://www.fastcodesign.com/3068329/infographic-of-the-day/how-forensic-architecture-revealed-details-of-a-secret-military-priso</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>philipkglass</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve been following the Syrian Civil War for the last 5 years. The null hypothesis: every faction has done horrible things. That&amp;#x27;s what happens in war. It would be an exceptional civil war indeed if the central government (or any other faction of significance) &lt;i&gt;did not&lt;/i&gt; commit atrocities. I understand not wanting one&amp;#x27;s country to be involved in the war. I don&amp;#x27;t want my country to intervene in the SCW either. I don&amp;#x27;t understand the resistance to recognizing the horrible things done in Syria (by the central government or otherwise).&lt;p&gt;Is the idea that &lt;i&gt;if&lt;/i&gt; the Syrian government commits atrocities &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt; Western powers have to intervene in the war? So to prevent a probably-disastrous intervention people need to deny that the Syrian government commits atrocities? I don&amp;#x27;t think that is a logical chain of reasoning, if that is indeed what is going on. There are all sorts of horrors in the world where additional intervention by outside powers is likely to be worse than inaction. It doesn&amp;#x27;t mean that we should pretend that the horrors don&amp;#x27;t exist.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>vacri</author><text>The Allies, Axis, and Comintern all committed atrocities in WWII... but atrocities are not a binary state. The firebombing of Dresden doesn&amp;#x27;t match up to the Final Solution, for example, and not just in scale - the latter was a formal ongoing policy by the government in charge, not &amp;#x27;soldiers run amok against their training&amp;#x27;.&lt;p&gt;It is good, however, to remind any hawk that atrocities are committed by all sides. If you&amp;#x27;re advocating for war at any time, you must also accept that your own side is going to engage in atrocities to some degree.</text></comment>