<story><title>The poor can’t afford to follow public health advice</title><url>https://www.hsj.co.uk/comment/the-bedpan-the-poor-cant-afford-to-follow-public-health-advice/7025532.article</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>turc1656</author><text>&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;If everyone followed Public Health England’s eating advice, people in the bottom decile of household income would spend 74 per cent of their income on food&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bullshit.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ll preface what I&amp;#x27;m going to say next by saying I&amp;#x27;m in the US and I know this was a UK report - but I highly doubt things are so incredibly different over there in terms of cost.  That being said, there&amp;#x27;s utterly no way that has to be the case.  Raw produce (not meats) from a farmer&amp;#x27;s market or most major supermarkets are very cheap.  I can spend $30-$40 and have enough for 3-4 people for a full &lt;i&gt;week&lt;/i&gt;.  Also, sausage is usually very cheap.  I buy the store brand (which happens to be delicious) and it&amp;#x27;s usually &amp;lt;$3 per lb.  The 73% beef from Walmart is cheap as hell and usually hovers around $3-$3.25 per lb most of the time.  One of those burgers (quarter-pounder, so 4 oz) has 340 calories and is a dream for anyone doing keto.  So that $3 package contains about 1350 to 1400 calories!  The cereal I make myself has only 4 ingredients and is loaded with healthy carbs (steel cut oats, flax seed, walnuts, and raisins).  $12 to $15 dollars buys a bag of each of those ingredients which all have around 15 or so servings - that&amp;#x27;s over two weeks...or less than a dollar a day (per person).  And that is a very high calorie breakfast, BTW.  Water costs essentially nothing per gallon.  Eggs are cheap and super healthy.  There&amp;#x27;s plenty of cheap, tasty cheeses you can buy in bulk, too.  You can get whole seasoned, rotisserie, &lt;i&gt;cooked&lt;/i&gt; and ready-to-eat chickens for $5!  That&amp;#x27;s multiple meals for a single person or a meal for an entire family.  And I don&amp;#x27;t live in a rural part of the US where prices are cheaper - I live in an expensive area of the northeast.&lt;p&gt;You can &lt;i&gt;easily&lt;/i&gt; feed a family of 4 on $125 a week using the items I outlined above (along with other cheap options).</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>squeaky-clean</author><text>It says &amp;quot;people in the bottom decile&amp;quot; though, which is very low.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; You can easily feed a family of 4 on $125 a week using the items I outlined above&lt;p&gt;It looks like the bottom decile had an average income of £130&amp;#x2F;week in 2015.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ons.gov.uk&amp;#x2F;peoplepopulationandcommunity&amp;#x2F;personalandhouseholdfinances&amp;#x2F;expenditure&amp;#x2F;adhocs&amp;#x2F;006770grosshouseholdincomebyincomedecilegroupukfinancialyearending2016&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ons.gov.uk&amp;#x2F;peoplepopulationandcommunity&amp;#x2F;personal...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>The poor can’t afford to follow public health advice</title><url>https://www.hsj.co.uk/comment/the-bedpan-the-poor-cant-afford-to-follow-public-health-advice/7025532.article</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>turc1656</author><text>&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;If everyone followed Public Health England’s eating advice, people in the bottom decile of household income would spend 74 per cent of their income on food&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bullshit.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ll preface what I&amp;#x27;m going to say next by saying I&amp;#x27;m in the US and I know this was a UK report - but I highly doubt things are so incredibly different over there in terms of cost.  That being said, there&amp;#x27;s utterly no way that has to be the case.  Raw produce (not meats) from a farmer&amp;#x27;s market or most major supermarkets are very cheap.  I can spend $30-$40 and have enough for 3-4 people for a full &lt;i&gt;week&lt;/i&gt;.  Also, sausage is usually very cheap.  I buy the store brand (which happens to be delicious) and it&amp;#x27;s usually &amp;lt;$3 per lb.  The 73% beef from Walmart is cheap as hell and usually hovers around $3-$3.25 per lb most of the time.  One of those burgers (quarter-pounder, so 4 oz) has 340 calories and is a dream for anyone doing keto.  So that $3 package contains about 1350 to 1400 calories!  The cereal I make myself has only 4 ingredients and is loaded with healthy carbs (steel cut oats, flax seed, walnuts, and raisins).  $12 to $15 dollars buys a bag of each of those ingredients which all have around 15 or so servings - that&amp;#x27;s over two weeks...or less than a dollar a day (per person).  And that is a very high calorie breakfast, BTW.  Water costs essentially nothing per gallon.  Eggs are cheap and super healthy.  There&amp;#x27;s plenty of cheap, tasty cheeses you can buy in bulk, too.  You can get whole seasoned, rotisserie, &lt;i&gt;cooked&lt;/i&gt; and ready-to-eat chickens for $5!  That&amp;#x27;s multiple meals for a single person or a meal for an entire family.  And I don&amp;#x27;t live in a rural part of the US where prices are cheaper - I live in an expensive area of the northeast.&lt;p&gt;You can &lt;i&gt;easily&lt;/i&gt; feed a family of 4 on $125 a week using the items I outlined above (along with other cheap options).</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>learc83</author><text>You can disagree with their guidelines, but the food you listed definitely wouldn&amp;#x27;t be following &amp;quot;Public Health England’s eating advice.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Also, sausage is usually very cheap&lt;p&gt;Almost no one is going to recommend that you make processed, preserved, and likely sweetened meat a significant portion of your diet.</text></comment>