<story><title>CIA new nominee director Gina Haspel ran a torture site and destroyed evidence</title><url>https://qz.com/1227879/who-is-gina-haspel-the-first-woman-nominated-to-run-the-cia-destroyed-evidence-of-us-torture/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>kirse</author><text>Obama authorized 10x the number of drone strikes as Bush that killed over 391+ civilians while he was in office, and he did it on his own volition.  Ultimately any president has to make hard life-altering decisions, so lets cut out the left vs. right nonsense.&lt;p&gt;Go ahead, read the article, don&amp;#x27;t let the facts hit you on the way out.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.nytimes.com&amp;#x2F;roomfordebate&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;01&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;reflecting-on-obamas-presidency&amp;#x2F;obamas-embrace-of-drone-strikes-will-be-a-lasting-legacy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.nytimes.com&amp;#x2F;roomfordebate&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;01&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;reflecting-...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>croon</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s impressive that we&amp;#x27;ve fallen so low that we&amp;#x27;re blaming the Obama administration for not fixing what the Bush administration did. I see it as normalization of the concept that you can&amp;#x27;t expect any rational action whatsoever from the GOP anymore.&lt;p&gt;Edit: Reading from comments, I should clarify. I totally agree with OP, I just find it incredibly sad.</text></item><item><author>apo</author><text>The inevitable result of illegal activity going unpunished: normalization.&lt;p&gt;The Obama administration had eight years to do something about this and instead decided turn the other way. All we got was a mealy-mouthed admission that &amp;quot;we tortured some folks.&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>croon</author><text>If the previous occupant kicks a hornets nest before you move in, that might force your hand in killing a lot more than the handful his foot managed.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t disagree with the fact, I disagree with the comparison.</text></comment>
<story><title>CIA new nominee director Gina Haspel ran a torture site and destroyed evidence</title><url>https://qz.com/1227879/who-is-gina-haspel-the-first-woman-nominated-to-run-the-cia-destroyed-evidence-of-us-torture/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>kirse</author><text>Obama authorized 10x the number of drone strikes as Bush that killed over 391+ civilians while he was in office, and he did it on his own volition.  Ultimately any president has to make hard life-altering decisions, so lets cut out the left vs. right nonsense.&lt;p&gt;Go ahead, read the article, don&amp;#x27;t let the facts hit you on the way out.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.nytimes.com&amp;#x2F;roomfordebate&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;01&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;reflecting-on-obamas-presidency&amp;#x2F;obamas-embrace-of-drone-strikes-will-be-a-lasting-legacy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.nytimes.com&amp;#x2F;roomfordebate&amp;#x2F;2016&amp;#x2F;01&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;reflecting-...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>croon</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s impressive that we&amp;#x27;ve fallen so low that we&amp;#x27;re blaming the Obama administration for not fixing what the Bush administration did. I see it as normalization of the concept that you can&amp;#x27;t expect any rational action whatsoever from the GOP anymore.&lt;p&gt;Edit: Reading from comments, I should clarify. I totally agree with OP, I just find it incredibly sad.</text></item><item><author>apo</author><text>The inevitable result of illegal activity going unpunished: normalization.&lt;p&gt;The Obama administration had eight years to do something about this and instead decided turn the other way. All we got was a mealy-mouthed admission that &amp;quot;we tortured some folks.&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>unclebucknasty</author><text>&amp;gt;&lt;i&gt;Obama authorized 10x the number of drone strikes as Bush that killed over 391+ civilians&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Perspective is in order here. &amp;quot;Credible estimates of Iraq War [alone] casualties range from 150,000 to 460,000&amp;quot; [0].&lt;p&gt;Obama inherited two wars (one illicit) and he settled on drone strikes in part to reduce the awful rate of civilian casualties. There is really no equivalence here and to suggest that there is actually introduces the bias that makes it about right vs. left.&lt;p&gt;I applaud your encouragement to focus on facts, but let&amp;#x27;s consider the complete set vs. those that support a particular world view.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War#Tables&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War#T...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>