<story><title>Visual Studio Code is now open source</title><url>https://code.visualstudio.com/updates#_vs-code-is-open-source</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>simoncion</author><text>&amp;gt; If they keep it up with actions such as these, there&amp;#x27;s a good chance they&amp;#x27;ll stand to be rewarded for it.&lt;p&gt;And -quickly enough- they&amp;#x27;ll go back to being the old MSFT we all knew and loathed from top to bottom, and these olive branches will vanish quicker than a pile of shaved ice on a summer day. For many of us, this isn&amp;#x27;t our first rodeo. :)</text></item><item><author>ckozlowski</author><text>&amp;gt;Only losing market share and power has made Microsoft produce software with reasonable quality, flexibility, and interoperability.&lt;p&gt;And that, in my opinion, is the way it&amp;#x27;s supposed to work. Vendor&amp;#x27;s products gettin&amp;#x27; ya down? Not being responsive to your needs and lacking in quality? Move elsewhere! Money talks.&lt;p&gt;A good kick in the ass can be a humbling experience, and a good opportunity for the open-minded. It was a long time in coming, but I&amp;#x27;m glad to see MS is starting to take some of these lessons to heart. If they keep it up with actions such as these, there&amp;#x27;s a good chance they&amp;#x27;ll stand to be rewarded for it.</text></item><item><author>ploxiln</author><text>Only losing market share and power has made Microsoft produce software with reasonable quality, flexibility, and interoperability.&lt;p&gt;A lot of the credit for that goes to Apple&amp;#x27;s crazy climb in popularity. But at least some of it also goes to technologists involved in networking, the internet, and the web, many of whom decided never to deal with any Microsoft stuff ever again. If you knew the frustration of Microsoft&amp;#x27;s combination of lock-in and incompetence, back in 1995 - 2006 (my entire computing life at the time!) you wouldn&amp;#x27;t blame them.</text></item><item><author>kup0</author><text>I wasn&amp;#x27;t sure what to expect from VSC, especially going into it I was worried that it would just be a MS-branded, bloated version of an already-slow Atom.&lt;p&gt;My expectations were completely wrong, though. VSC is not bloated or slow. It&amp;#x27;s well-made. There aren&amp;#x27;t really any negative MS-flavored conventions as far as I can tell. This isn&amp;#x27;t MS Office (which I guess has its place but has gone off the deep end, IMHO). It looks like it&amp;#x27;s on a path towards becoming a pretty powerful tool, more than just a text editor, and more than just a clone of Atom.&lt;p&gt;The MS branding will unfortunately keep people away that like to judge books by their cover. But that says more about their own problems and unwillingness than it does about MS.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t understand why we have to throw ourselves into brand &amp;quot;camps&amp;quot; and defend them to the death. It&amp;#x27;s dumb. I like Linux, I use an assortment of operating systems depending on my needs, and I don&amp;#x27;t see any reason why a decent effort&amp;#x2F;product can&amp;#x27;t be appreciated, no matter what company produces it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dbattaglia</author><text>Honest question: how many people from the embrace-extend-extinguish era are still at Microsoft?  Once they are all gone, and the market has shifted several times since then, you would think that era would be over for them.  Or, is it just deeply engrained in their corporate culture, which lives in longer than any individual employee?  I kind of doubt it but it&amp;#x27;s interesting to think about.</text></comment>
<story><title>Visual Studio Code is now open source</title><url>https://code.visualstudio.com/updates#_vs-code-is-open-source</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>simoncion</author><text>&amp;gt; If they keep it up with actions such as these, there&amp;#x27;s a good chance they&amp;#x27;ll stand to be rewarded for it.&lt;p&gt;And -quickly enough- they&amp;#x27;ll go back to being the old MSFT we all knew and loathed from top to bottom, and these olive branches will vanish quicker than a pile of shaved ice on a summer day. For many of us, this isn&amp;#x27;t our first rodeo. :)</text></item><item><author>ckozlowski</author><text>&amp;gt;Only losing market share and power has made Microsoft produce software with reasonable quality, flexibility, and interoperability.&lt;p&gt;And that, in my opinion, is the way it&amp;#x27;s supposed to work. Vendor&amp;#x27;s products gettin&amp;#x27; ya down? Not being responsive to your needs and lacking in quality? Move elsewhere! Money talks.&lt;p&gt;A good kick in the ass can be a humbling experience, and a good opportunity for the open-minded. It was a long time in coming, but I&amp;#x27;m glad to see MS is starting to take some of these lessons to heart. If they keep it up with actions such as these, there&amp;#x27;s a good chance they&amp;#x27;ll stand to be rewarded for it.</text></item><item><author>ploxiln</author><text>Only losing market share and power has made Microsoft produce software with reasonable quality, flexibility, and interoperability.&lt;p&gt;A lot of the credit for that goes to Apple&amp;#x27;s crazy climb in popularity. But at least some of it also goes to technologists involved in networking, the internet, and the web, many of whom decided never to deal with any Microsoft stuff ever again. If you knew the frustration of Microsoft&amp;#x27;s combination of lock-in and incompetence, back in 1995 - 2006 (my entire computing life at the time!) you wouldn&amp;#x27;t blame them.</text></item><item><author>kup0</author><text>I wasn&amp;#x27;t sure what to expect from VSC, especially going into it I was worried that it would just be a MS-branded, bloated version of an already-slow Atom.&lt;p&gt;My expectations were completely wrong, though. VSC is not bloated or slow. It&amp;#x27;s well-made. There aren&amp;#x27;t really any negative MS-flavored conventions as far as I can tell. This isn&amp;#x27;t MS Office (which I guess has its place but has gone off the deep end, IMHO). It looks like it&amp;#x27;s on a path towards becoming a pretty powerful tool, more than just a text editor, and more than just a clone of Atom.&lt;p&gt;The MS branding will unfortunately keep people away that like to judge books by their cover. But that says more about their own problems and unwillingness than it does about MS.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t understand why we have to throw ourselves into brand &amp;quot;camps&amp;quot; and defend them to the death. It&amp;#x27;s dumb. I like Linux, I use an assortment of operating systems depending on my needs, and I don&amp;#x27;t see any reason why a decent effort&amp;#x2F;product can&amp;#x27;t be appreciated, no matter what company produces it.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>thebaer</author><text>At least now we&amp;#x27;ll have a decent editor we can continue to run ourselves when that happens. :)</text></comment>