<story><title>Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-driving car</title><url>https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/27/waymo-teams-up-with-jaguar-to-intro-a-new-premium-self-driving-car/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>coding123</author><text>Probably should have waited a little longer - I know they&amp;#x27;re trying to catch the glow around Waymo&amp;#x27;s supposed safety in light of the Uber incident, but probably should hold off - the general public isn&amp;#x27;t on top of this like HN is.&lt;p&gt;I mean - I think all this talk of going live in 2018 should be stopped by officials until they create a TEST for SDVs. Also, it wouldn&amp;#x27;t be a bad thing for SDVs to run an internal offline unit test given a fake lidar scenario and make sure it doesn&amp;#x27;t kill people (every time before the car leaves the parking spot).</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>treis</author><text>The problem is that as soon as you define a test then these companies will put an emphasis on making sure their cars work for the test instead of the real world.  Then, when something happens in the real world they say well it passed the driving test.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s one of the perpetual problems of regulation.  As soon as you define a test or requirement companies will start gaming the system to meet them instead of addressing the purpose behind the regulation.</text></comment>
<story><title>Waymo teams up with Jaguar to intro a new, premium self-driving car</title><url>https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/27/waymo-teams-up-with-jaguar-to-intro-a-new-premium-self-driving-car/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>coding123</author><text>Probably should have waited a little longer - I know they&amp;#x27;re trying to catch the glow around Waymo&amp;#x27;s supposed safety in light of the Uber incident, but probably should hold off - the general public isn&amp;#x27;t on top of this like HN is.&lt;p&gt;I mean - I think all this talk of going live in 2018 should be stopped by officials until they create a TEST for SDVs. Also, it wouldn&amp;#x27;t be a bad thing for SDVs to run an internal offline unit test given a fake lidar scenario and make sure it doesn&amp;#x27;t kill people (every time before the car leaves the parking spot).</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ComradeTaco</author><text>At the very least states should have a threshhold of X number of miles driven without an accident, x number of miles without a fatality,  out of tens to hundreds of millions of miles of testing.&lt;p&gt;Move fast and break things works fine when the at risk subject is someone&amp;#x27;s vacation photos from 2015 rather than a kid in a crosswalk.</text></comment>