<story><title>Pangolin UI, a Desktop Shell, Written in Flutter, for Linux and Zircona</title><url>https://web.dahliaos.io/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>flohofwoe</author><text>Hmm... on my mid-2014 13&amp;quot; MBP (which is completely fine otherwise) performance is so bad that this doesn&amp;#x27;t really make me confident that Flutter is &amp;quot;the future&amp;quot;. Even just dragging windows around stutters (it feels like somewhere between 5 and 10 FPS). Is &amp;quot;native performance&amp;quot; comparable to the web version or dramatically better?&lt;p&gt;Flutter... stutter... maybe the Flutter team was trying to tell us something all along ;)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dmos62</author><text>I really wish app developers would throttle their prototypes. They tend to run overpowered machines, but then they&amp;#x27;re oblivious to performance problems their apps have. As a consequence, users have to keep playing catchup with developers&amp;#x27; computers. I feel strongly about this. I can&amp;#x27;t say with a straight face that the growth in apps&amp;#x27; resource consumption over the last ten years reflects in improvements in their feature-set. Feels a bit like how gold fish get big if you put them in big aquariums.</text></comment>
<story><title>Pangolin UI, a Desktop Shell, Written in Flutter, for Linux and Zircona</title><url>https://web.dahliaos.io/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>flohofwoe</author><text>Hmm... on my mid-2014 13&amp;quot; MBP (which is completely fine otherwise) performance is so bad that this doesn&amp;#x27;t really make me confident that Flutter is &amp;quot;the future&amp;quot;. Even just dragging windows around stutters (it feels like somewhere between 5 and 10 FPS). Is &amp;quot;native performance&amp;quot; comparable to the web version or dramatically better?&lt;p&gt;Flutter... stutter... maybe the Flutter team was trying to tell us something all along ;)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jeroenhd</author><text>My experience with Flutter has been a lot better than what this website demonstrates. I&amp;#x27;m not sure how much of the stutter is to be blamed on Flutter and how much is to be blamed on the code architecture of this website.&lt;p&gt;This website is definitely running at 20-30fps max on my phone, whereas 60fps seems perfectly maintainable on my own Flutter experiments with web apps.&lt;p&gt;Having said all that, I&amp;#x27;m still miffed about the extreme reliance on Javascript modern web applications have. With the ease of use Flutter promises for making web apps, I can only fear the slow, janky mess that websites will become if the platform ever gets taken up as quick as Flutter seems to hope it will.</text></comment>