<story><title>Apple wins antitrust court battle with Epic Games, appeals court rules</title><url>https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/24/apple-wins-antitrust-court-battle-with-epic-games-appeals-court-rules/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nu11ptr</author><text>&amp;gt; The App Store continues to promote competition, drive innovation, and expand opportunity, and we’re proud of its profound contributions to both users and developers around the world.&lt;p&gt;How can the app store promote competition when it is a monopoly on iOS? (I suppose they could be talking between different apps, but that isn&amp;#x27;t what this case was about)&lt;p&gt;UPDATE: The comments seem to imply I am giving my opinion on this case. I am not. I am commenting on the PR-speak given here. The app store does not, IMO, &amp;quot;promote&amp;quot; competition...it may arguably not hinder it, but given what the case is about, it is, I think, more competitive if others could use different methods of selling apps on iOS. That doesn&amp;#x27;t mean it is better, right, more fair, or anything else... just more &amp;quot;competitive&amp;quot; IMO. In short, I&amp;#x27;m commenting on the wording in their press release only.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>GeekyBear</author><text>&amp;gt; How can the app store promote competition when it is a monopoly on iOS?&lt;p&gt;The court did not decide that the relevant market was iOS only, as Epic wanted.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; A threshold issue in any antitrust case is defining the “relevant market.” Here, Epic argued that the relevant market is Apple’s iOS system. Apple argued that the relevant market is the market for all digital video games, where it is one of many players. The court disagreed with both sides, and it instead defined the relevant market as “digital mobile gaming transactions.” Under this formulation, the court found that Apple has a 52–57% market share in the “digital mobile gaming transactions” market. But this was not enough for the court to conclude Apple has monopoly power.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.klgates.com&amp;#x2F;Court-Issues-Mixed-Ruling-in-Epic-v-Apple-Antitrust-Trial-10-6-2021&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.klgates.com&amp;#x2F;Court-Issues-Mixed-Ruling-in-Epic-v-...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;This article is about Epic losing their appeal of the lower court&amp;#x27;s rulings.</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple wins antitrust court battle with Epic Games, appeals court rules</title><url>https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/24/apple-wins-antitrust-court-battle-with-epic-games-appeals-court-rules/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nu11ptr</author><text>&amp;gt; The App Store continues to promote competition, drive innovation, and expand opportunity, and we’re proud of its profound contributions to both users and developers around the world.&lt;p&gt;How can the app store promote competition when it is a monopoly on iOS? (I suppose they could be talking between different apps, but that isn&amp;#x27;t what this case was about)&lt;p&gt;UPDATE: The comments seem to imply I am giving my opinion on this case. I am not. I am commenting on the PR-speak given here. The app store does not, IMO, &amp;quot;promote&amp;quot; competition...it may arguably not hinder it, but given what the case is about, it is, I think, more competitive if others could use different methods of selling apps on iOS. That doesn&amp;#x27;t mean it is better, right, more fair, or anything else... just more &amp;quot;competitive&amp;quot; IMO. In short, I&amp;#x27;m commenting on the wording in their press release only.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>gnicholas</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;monopoly on iOS&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;What you&amp;#x27;re doing is assuming &amp;quot;the relevant market&amp;quot; is very narrow. In antitrust law, they say the case is won or lost on how broadly the relevant market is defined. Does Amazon compete against every brick and mortar store, or just other online merchants? The subsequent legal analysis looks very different depending on the answer to that question.</text></comment>