<story><title>California governor issues statewide &apos;stay at home&apos; order</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-california-stay-at/california-governor-issues-statewide-stay-at-home-order-idUSKBN21707B</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>rootusrootus</author><text>This works for a while, but we can&amp;#x27;t realistically expect to just shut the country down for the next year or so.  Surely there is some kind of plan to try to actively suppress the virus rather than just reduce the R0 slightly?  While Congress throws around a trillion here, trillion there, why not make testing every last American (multiple times, as necessary) priority #1?  Then we can get people back to work much sooner, and let the economy start to recover.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>anarazel</author><text>(not not an epidemiologist, just interested)&lt;p&gt;Once testing becomes widespread enough that it&amp;#x27;s feasible to test a lot more people it&amp;#x27;s quite plausible to relax the restrictions. One big problem before the recent &amp;quot;shelter in place&amp;quot; state is that community transmission by asymptomatic people was&amp;#x2F;is out of control.&lt;p&gt;If only strongly symptomatic people are &amp;quot;allowed&amp;quot; to be tested and health care professions aren&amp;#x27;t tested, it&amp;#x27;s basically impossible to restrict spread of something as infectious as covid-19. And once people with a lot of contacts have it, and stay in contact, further spread will obviously accelerate.&lt;p&gt;If you look at the buildup of test capacity in the US (far far to late obviously), it&amp;#x27;s improving at a decent rate (from a totally embarrassing starting point):&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;covidtracking.com&amp;#x2F;us-daily&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;covidtracking.com&amp;#x2F;us-daily&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;(there&amp;#x27;s a lot of differening sources, several lagging, but the trend is similar afaictl)&lt;p&gt;So there &lt;i&gt;finally&lt;/i&gt; does appear to be some serious and successful effort in building up test capacity. Testing everyone in the US seems far off still though.&lt;p&gt;Given the rates of hospitalization and available beds &amp;#x2F; respirators, it&amp;#x27;d however be insane to rely on testing at this point. Spread would be far too fast, and there&amp;#x27;s obviously not enough testing.&lt;p&gt;But if infections slow down due to the isolation, and testing ramps up at the same time...</text></comment>
<story><title>California governor issues statewide &apos;stay at home&apos; order</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-california-stay-at/california-governor-issues-statewide-stay-at-home-order-idUSKBN21707B</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>rootusrootus</author><text>This works for a while, but we can&amp;#x27;t realistically expect to just shut the country down for the next year or so.  Surely there is some kind of plan to try to actively suppress the virus rather than just reduce the R0 slightly?  While Congress throws around a trillion here, trillion there, why not make testing every last American (multiple times, as necessary) priority #1?  Then we can get people back to work much sooner, and let the economy start to recover.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dimator</author><text>you&amp;#x27;re right, testing is the long term solution. you can&amp;#x27;t control what you can&amp;#x27;t measure.&lt;p&gt;the embarrassing point is that in the US, isolation is the only effective tool at this point. it&amp;#x27;s embarrassing because ramping up testing was what South Korea did, and they started much sooner, and that&amp;#x27;s why they are over the hump now. the US simply doesn&amp;#x27;t have the testing scaled up.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.reuters.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;us-health-coronavirus-testing-specialrep&amp;#x2F;special-report-how-korea-trounced-u-s-in-race-to-test-people-for-coronavirus-idUSKBN2153BW&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.reuters.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;us-health-coronavirus-testin...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>