<story><title>U.S. government seeks Facebook help to wiretap Messenger</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-encryption-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-government-seeks-facebook-help-to-wiretap-messenger-sources-idUSKBN1L226D</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mjevans</author><text>I think it has become abundantly clear that a fully peer to peer, encryption required (non-optional), no single central server infrastructure solution is the answer.&lt;p&gt;No points to tap.&lt;p&gt;No point in tapping the data.&lt;p&gt;If they want to capture conversations it&amp;#x27;s time to go back to the proper old ways of actually spying on high-value targets.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>apatters</author><text>This discussion should never be framed as a choice between legal solutions and technical solutions. They are complementary.&lt;p&gt;The legal approach is correct and easy for the public to understand. Explained correctly it is also popular. The government used to have to do things like get a warrant and investigate specific crimes. They couldn&amp;#x27;t listen to everyone&amp;#x27;s phone conversations all the time and they shouldn&amp;#x27;t be able to do this on the Internet either. Digital dragnets are illegal and unconstitutional.&lt;p&gt;The technical approach is also correct. If you&amp;#x27;re building something that makes it harder for criminals inside the government to commit more crimes, you&amp;#x27;re doing work that is profound and in the best interests of society. Anyone with passion and technical skill can participate in this work. It&amp;#x27;s the right thing to do.&lt;p&gt;Both efforts help each other. Keep the government in line and accountable to the people. Make it harder for people inside the government to do the wrong thing. All approaches deserve support and should leverage each other&amp;#x27;s work. They should cooperate with law-abiding, constitutionally empowered government authorities as well. There are good guys in the government too.</text></comment>
<story><title>U.S. government seeks Facebook help to wiretap Messenger</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-encryption-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-government-seeks-facebook-help-to-wiretap-messenger-sources-idUSKBN1L226D</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mjevans</author><text>I think it has become abundantly clear that a fully peer to peer, encryption required (non-optional), no single central server infrastructure solution is the answer.&lt;p&gt;No points to tap.&lt;p&gt;No point in tapping the data.&lt;p&gt;If they want to capture conversations it&amp;#x27;s time to go back to the proper old ways of actually spying on high-value targets.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tomatotomato37</author><text>This is a case of the government trying to force Facebook to essentially strip out their technology; saying technology is the solution here is kinda ignorant of the actual issue</text></comment>