<story><title>Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025</title><url>https://winaero.com/microsoft-will-end-windows-10-support-in-2025/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ulzeraj</author><text>Personally I don&amp;#x27;t think so. Every time I download and install from an Windows ISO it seems worse.&lt;p&gt;Right out of the bat there is a page where you need to uncheck all the spyware crap and there are so many  it scrolls. They also make it so a normal local user is presented like a somewhat inferior experience than their web login. Then you have to fill in obligatory 3 recovery questions even if you are confident in your choice of passwords.&lt;p&gt;Nothing of this is new but I&amp;#x27;ve recently had to install Windows 10 on an old computer to use some crapware and after all the questioning and cringe &amp;quot;we are working hang on it&amp;quot; messages there was some huge tray icon displaying some weather data and other unnecessary stuff. Something about Interests and it sits there with lots of unsolicited stuff like OneDrive.&lt;p&gt;The start menu is littered with squares filled with animated web page stuff and honestly its hard to find out if those are about news or ads.&lt;p&gt;Now I&amp;#x27;m not a Windows hater. I mean... LTSC and Windows server are &lt;i&gt;nice&lt;/i&gt;. Why does default Windows and Windows Pro must look like BonziBuddyOS?</text></item><item><author>duxup</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ll be honest.   I kinda lost track of windows, android, iOS versions at some point.  And I think that&amp;#x27;s probably ok... I use it, it works, there ya go.&lt;p&gt;Most everything I do really isn&amp;#x27;t OS dependent.&lt;p&gt;I do fondly remember the days when OS upgrades was a huge change.  I&amp;#x27;ll always fondly think of the Rolling Stone&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;Start Me Up&amp;quot; and trying out OS&amp;#x2F;2 and various Linux flavors and so on.    I used to spend HOURS customizing my OS.  (I am amused to see my son do this with his phone).&lt;p&gt;But now my OS is really just &amp;quot;set dark theme&amp;quot; and roll on.&lt;p&gt;Productivity wise, that&amp;#x27;s probably good.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>akiselev</author><text>That stupid weather widget and the Xbox overlay randomly popping up, completely disabling input without an obvious way to get out (some random win key combo), finally drove me to dump Windows as a daily driver. It even drove me to get some real work done on my passion project so I&amp;#x27;d never have to use a Windows VM for CAD ever again.&lt;p&gt;I lived through Micro$oft but I was too inexperienced to understand the hate directed towards Microsoft. It&amp;#x27;s ironic that I only started to feel it now that they&amp;#x27;ve changed their tune on the open source&amp;#x2F;dev stuff.&lt;p&gt;To add insult to injury, shortly after, I got an email with this subject line from google:&lt;p&gt;*&amp;gt; akiselev, take the next step on your Linux by confirming your Google Account settings</text></comment>
<story><title>Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025</title><url>https://winaero.com/microsoft-will-end-windows-10-support-in-2025/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ulzeraj</author><text>Personally I don&amp;#x27;t think so. Every time I download and install from an Windows ISO it seems worse.&lt;p&gt;Right out of the bat there is a page where you need to uncheck all the spyware crap and there are so many  it scrolls. They also make it so a normal local user is presented like a somewhat inferior experience than their web login. Then you have to fill in obligatory 3 recovery questions even if you are confident in your choice of passwords.&lt;p&gt;Nothing of this is new but I&amp;#x27;ve recently had to install Windows 10 on an old computer to use some crapware and after all the questioning and cringe &amp;quot;we are working hang on it&amp;quot; messages there was some huge tray icon displaying some weather data and other unnecessary stuff. Something about Interests and it sits there with lots of unsolicited stuff like OneDrive.&lt;p&gt;The start menu is littered with squares filled with animated web page stuff and honestly its hard to find out if those are about news or ads.&lt;p&gt;Now I&amp;#x27;m not a Windows hater. I mean... LTSC and Windows server are &lt;i&gt;nice&lt;/i&gt;. Why does default Windows and Windows Pro must look like BonziBuddyOS?</text></item><item><author>duxup</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ll be honest.   I kinda lost track of windows, android, iOS versions at some point.  And I think that&amp;#x27;s probably ok... I use it, it works, there ya go.&lt;p&gt;Most everything I do really isn&amp;#x27;t OS dependent.&lt;p&gt;I do fondly remember the days when OS upgrades was a huge change.  I&amp;#x27;ll always fondly think of the Rolling Stone&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;Start Me Up&amp;quot; and trying out OS&amp;#x2F;2 and various Linux flavors and so on.    I used to spend HOURS customizing my OS.  (I am amused to see my son do this with his phone).&lt;p&gt;But now my OS is really just &amp;quot;set dark theme&amp;quot; and roll on.&lt;p&gt;Productivity wise, that&amp;#x27;s probably good.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>passivate</author><text>Our IT has given us deployment sticks for W10 Pro which format&amp;#x2F;install&amp;#x2F;deploy the OS using one script in about 5 minutes with zero nags&amp;#x2F;prompts anything else. It also sets up a default (non-cloud) user. I think its called an &amp;#x27;unattended&amp;#x27; setup. So it definitely can be done. I think MS needs to provide a &amp;quot;Yes, I know what I&amp;#x27;m doing, go away&amp;quot; Windows ISO.</text></comment>