<story><title>Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers</title><url>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wells-fargo-reaches-record-3-135449093.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Meekro</author><text>I get what you mean, but what&amp;#x27;s the alternative? How &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; you behave if you&amp;#x27;re exempt from normal social boundaries because of your personal tragedy? Shout at random people? Throw things? Punch some guy in the face?&lt;p&gt;Seems to me it&amp;#x27;s better to try and be kind, and treat others right despite your horrible situation. The person you&amp;#x27;re treating cruelly because of your personal trauma could easily be going through a trauma worse than yours.&lt;p&gt;Apologies if I misunderstood what you were getting at, though. I wasn&amp;#x27;t clear on which social boundaries you&amp;#x27;d propose to exempt people from.</text></item><item><author>obblekk</author><text>I feel so much cognitive dissonance realizing that there are hard working people literally losing their home and shelter &lt;i&gt;wrongly&lt;/i&gt; while I might be sitting across from them at any time, expecting them to behave within normal social boundaries.&lt;p&gt;Imagine a family with a new born, working 50+ hours at a physically demanding job, making $80k&amp;#x2F;yr combined, and then losing their home for no reason... and then being expected to do everything else right while dealing quietly.&lt;p&gt;Incidents like this make it easier for me to understand &amp;quot;protest voting&amp;quot; against the system politically. Not sure of constructive ways to prevent this more broadly.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>techsupporter</author><text>&amp;gt; I get what you mean, but what&amp;#x27;s the alternative? How should you behave if you&amp;#x27;re exempt from normal social boundaries because of your personal tragedy? Shout at random people? Throw things? Punch some guy in the face?&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t mean to put words in obblekk&amp;#x27;s mouth (text box) so what I perceived them as meaning is: I don&amp;#x27;t think the person you&amp;#x27;re replying to was advocating for direct person-on-person action.  When we see people protesting or pushing back against or loudly saying &amp;quot;this is wrong and I won&amp;#x27;t have it and neither should you&amp;quot; kinds of things, we should consider how our personal situation could rapidly change to be like theirs.  And, in a lot of cases, &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; have been like theirs but for some skill at leveraging a few strokes of uncontrollable luck.&lt;p&gt;To me, it&amp;#x27;s like when people complain that &amp;quot;those damn unionized trash truck drivers are making $90,000 with a lot of overtime and a pension.&amp;quot;  Why is the response to try to tear them down, when the correct, to my mind, question is &amp;quot;why don&amp;#x27;t I have that, too?&amp;quot;</text></comment>
<story><title>Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers</title><url>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wells-fargo-reaches-record-3-135449093.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Meekro</author><text>I get what you mean, but what&amp;#x27;s the alternative? How &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; you behave if you&amp;#x27;re exempt from normal social boundaries because of your personal tragedy? Shout at random people? Throw things? Punch some guy in the face?&lt;p&gt;Seems to me it&amp;#x27;s better to try and be kind, and treat others right despite your horrible situation. The person you&amp;#x27;re treating cruelly because of your personal trauma could easily be going through a trauma worse than yours.&lt;p&gt;Apologies if I misunderstood what you were getting at, though. I wasn&amp;#x27;t clear on which social boundaries you&amp;#x27;d propose to exempt people from.</text></item><item><author>obblekk</author><text>I feel so much cognitive dissonance realizing that there are hard working people literally losing their home and shelter &lt;i&gt;wrongly&lt;/i&gt; while I might be sitting across from them at any time, expecting them to behave within normal social boundaries.&lt;p&gt;Imagine a family with a new born, working 50+ hours at a physically demanding job, making $80k&amp;#x2F;yr combined, and then losing their home for no reason... and then being expected to do everything else right while dealing quietly.&lt;p&gt;Incidents like this make it easier for me to understand &amp;quot;protest voting&amp;quot; against the system politically. Not sure of constructive ways to prevent this more broadly.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>kodyo</author><text>Banks would rightly collapse if people took their business to credit unions. No random violence required.</text></comment>