<story><title>Trouble with Erythritol</title><url>https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/trouble-erythritol</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>prmoustache</author><text>So basically you came to a point you can&amp;#x27;t even eat fruits? How is it supposed to improve your health&amp;#x2F;life?</text></item><item><author>sfjailbird</author><text>Just some anecdata: I have followed a disciplined keto diet for two-and-a-half years. I eat close to no carbs (apart from fiber). I do, however, like sweet stuff, so I use artificial sweeteners. Lots of them, every day. A mix of stevia, aspartame, sugar alcohols like erythritol, and so on.&lt;p&gt;I have never had an issue with them (that I am able to notice, of course, not saying they can&amp;#x27;t have some hidden harmful effects). For those saying that they are a slippery slide to eating more real sugar, I don&amp;#x27;t think so. At this point I recoil at eating anything with real sugar. It is overwhelmingly sweet, it almost burns in the mouth, and later I get bloated and retain water. I believe this is one of the criticisms of artificial sweeteners - that it lowers your ability to clear blood sugar, since you&amp;#x27;re just not used to having to produce a lot of insulin at one time. Well I don&amp;#x27;t actually want to eat a lot of sugar ever, so I&amp;#x27;m okay with that.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m almost certain that artificial sweeteners have some bad effects somehow, but the bad effects of sugar are plentiful and obvious, so for now the trade-off makes sense, to me.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>JackMorgan</author><text>I think fruit is seriously overrated from a health perspective. The main benefit of fruit comes when comparing it to candy, white bread, and desserts. Fruit usually has a bit more fiber. Many modern fruits still have a ton of sugar, and it&amp;#x27;s absolutely possible to give yourself diabetes just eating too much fruit.&lt;p&gt;Vegetables are packed with nutrients and fiber, without all the sugars that fruit brings.&lt;p&gt;I tend to think sugar and flour belongs at the top of a pyramid, fruit in the middle, and veggies is the base. However cutting out fruit altogether probably won&amp;#x27;t hurt at all.</text></comment>
<story><title>Trouble with Erythritol</title><url>https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/trouble-erythritol</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>prmoustache</author><text>So basically you came to a point you can&amp;#x27;t even eat fruits? How is it supposed to improve your health&amp;#x2F;life?</text></item><item><author>sfjailbird</author><text>Just some anecdata: I have followed a disciplined keto diet for two-and-a-half years. I eat close to no carbs (apart from fiber). I do, however, like sweet stuff, so I use artificial sweeteners. Lots of them, every day. A mix of stevia, aspartame, sugar alcohols like erythritol, and so on.&lt;p&gt;I have never had an issue with them (that I am able to notice, of course, not saying they can&amp;#x27;t have some hidden harmful effects). For those saying that they are a slippery slide to eating more real sugar, I don&amp;#x27;t think so. At this point I recoil at eating anything with real sugar. It is overwhelmingly sweet, it almost burns in the mouth, and later I get bloated and retain water. I believe this is one of the criticisms of artificial sweeteners - that it lowers your ability to clear blood sugar, since you&amp;#x27;re just not used to having to produce a lot of insulin at one time. Well I don&amp;#x27;t actually want to eat a lot of sugar ever, so I&amp;#x27;m okay with that.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m almost certain that artificial sweeteners have some bad effects somehow, but the bad effects of sugar are plentiful and obvious, so for now the trade-off makes sense, to me.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>sneak</author><text>Most people (like myself) that keep in ketosis are doing so for weight loss.&lt;p&gt;Being fat is a lot more deadly than not eating fruits.</text></comment>