<story><title>Emails reveal close Google relationship with NSA</title><url>http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/6/nsa-chief-google.html</url><text></text></story><parent_chain><item><author>madaxe_again</author><text>&amp;quot;It seems&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Yes it does. A year ago &amp;quot;it seemed&amp;quot; that the internet wasn&amp;#x27;t 100% insecure, however.&lt;p&gt;Therefore, this was more likely than not a cover.&lt;p&gt;I mean, we already know from Snowden that the bios bit is a lie. They didn&amp;#x27;t fix a vulnerability, they introduced one.&lt;p&gt;Edit: Not entirely sure why I&amp;#x27;m being downvoted for this - see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/dell-nsa-ant-deitybounce-snowden,1-1524.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tomsitpro.com&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;dell-nsa-ant-deitybounce-s...&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://leaksource.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/nsa-ant-deitybounce.jpg?w=1208&amp;amp;h=1562&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;leaksource.files.wordpress.com&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;nsa-ant-deityb...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>campbellsoup</author><text>The article is dated &amp;quot;May 6, 2014 5:00AM ET&amp;quot;, hardly news...&lt;p&gt;To me it seems more like the NSA wanted to make the Web giants aware of new or unmitigated threats. Here&amp;#x27;s a quote from Gen. Alexander:&lt;p&gt;“About six months ago, we began focusing on the security of mobility devices,” Alexander wrote. “A group (primarily Google, Apple and Microsoft) recently came to agreement on a set of core security principles. When we reach this point in our projects we schedule a classified briefing for the CEOs of key companies to provide them a brief on the specific threats we believe can be mitigated and to seek their commitment for their organization to move ahead … Google’s participation in refinement, engineering and deployment of the solutions will be essential.”</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>SeanDav</author><text>* &amp;quot;Edit: Not entirely sure why I&amp;#x27;m being downvoted for this&amp;quot; *&lt;p&gt;You are implying something negative about Google. There are a lot of Google employees and Google fanboys active on HN that will happily downvote anything negative on Google whether it has merit or not.&lt;p&gt;That is not to say that everyone who works at Google or who likes Google products cannot accept criticism but a number will downvote you regardless. The same applies to Apple, Microsoft and other cliques. If you make a negative post about them, be prepared for downvotes.&lt;p&gt;In addition you are not presenting any proof and even though your point may be perfectly valid and correct it does smack of a conspiracy theory which tends to attract downvotes as well. Who knows what the real truth is, just don&amp;#x27;t use Google products if you are concerned, there are alternatives out there.</text></comment>
<story><title>Emails reveal close Google relationship with NSA</title><url>http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/5/6/nsa-chief-google.html</url><text></text></story><parent_chain><item><author>madaxe_again</author><text>&amp;quot;It seems&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Yes it does. A year ago &amp;quot;it seemed&amp;quot; that the internet wasn&amp;#x27;t 100% insecure, however.&lt;p&gt;Therefore, this was more likely than not a cover.&lt;p&gt;I mean, we already know from Snowden that the bios bit is a lie. They didn&amp;#x27;t fix a vulnerability, they introduced one.&lt;p&gt;Edit: Not entirely sure why I&amp;#x27;m being downvoted for this - see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/dell-nsa-ant-deitybounce-snowden,1-1524.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.tomsitpro.com&amp;#x2F;articles&amp;#x2F;dell-nsa-ant-deitybounce-s...&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://leaksource.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/nsa-ant-deitybounce.jpg?w=1208&amp;amp;h=1562&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;leaksource.files.wordpress.com&amp;#x2F;2013&amp;#x2F;12&amp;#x2F;nsa-ant-deityb...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>campbellsoup</author><text>The article is dated &amp;quot;May 6, 2014 5:00AM ET&amp;quot;, hardly news...&lt;p&gt;To me it seems more like the NSA wanted to make the Web giants aware of new or unmitigated threats. Here&amp;#x27;s a quote from Gen. Alexander:&lt;p&gt;“About six months ago, we began focusing on the security of mobility devices,” Alexander wrote. “A group (primarily Google, Apple and Microsoft) recently came to agreement on a set of core security principles. When we reach this point in our projects we schedule a classified briefing for the CEOs of key companies to provide them a brief on the specific threats we believe can be mitigated and to seek their commitment for their organization to move ahead … Google’s participation in refinement, engineering and deployment of the solutions will be essential.”</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>abritishguy</author><text>&amp;gt;more likely than not a cover.&lt;p&gt;And this is where reasoned debate turns into conspiracy theories.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; we already know from Snowden that the bios bit is a lie&lt;p&gt;Do we? So because they discovered a vulnerability in a particular Dell server in 2007 (discovered != introduced) this means that they could not have possibly disclosed details of a different bios vulnerability to tech giants years later?&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Not entirely sure why I&amp;#x27;m being downvoted for this&lt;p&gt;Because you are claiming opinion and speculation as fact.</text></comment>