<story><title>Joining Apple 40 years ago</title><url>https://mondaynote.com/joining-apple-40-years-ago-805114536a2</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>supernova87a</author><text>Can you imagine moving to the Bay Area in the 80s?  To grow up when land was still cheap, before college competition was cutthroat and unaffordable, when relatively simple competence could get you a solid job and VC&amp;#x2F;PE firms weren&amp;#x27;t plundering and incentivizing the latest 30-second attention-span app to reach $1B?&lt;p&gt;It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or reform Prop 13 and free up some affordable place to raise a new family.&lt;p&gt;Oh well.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tasty_freeze</author><text>You have a distorted picture. I moved to the bay area in 85, stayed 20 years, then left. If you moved there and were already well established, sure, real estate would have been more affordable then than now. But as a young engineer, things were still pretty expensive.&lt;p&gt;My starting salary as a BSEE working for a minicomputer company was $30,000. Two weeks after arriving they had layoffs. They were nice to the new hires and said we&amp;#x27;ll keep you on for a bit, but you should start looking for new jobs, plus there is a 10% pay cut, so $27K&amp;#x2F;year ($65.3K in 2020 dollars).&lt;p&gt;My shared apartment was off Maude and Mathilda was nothing special. It was 700 sq ft and was $750&amp;#x2F;month, which works out to $1800&amp;#x2F;month in 2020 dollars. Palo Alto, Los Altos Hills, and Atherton were all expensive addresses, even then.</text></comment>
<story><title>Joining Apple 40 years ago</title><url>https://mondaynote.com/joining-apple-40-years-ago-805114536a2</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>supernova87a</author><text>Can you imagine moving to the Bay Area in the 80s?  To grow up when land was still cheap, before college competition was cutthroat and unaffordable, when relatively simple competence could get you a solid job and VC&amp;#x2F;PE firms weren&amp;#x27;t plundering and incentivizing the latest 30-second attention-span app to reach $1B?&lt;p&gt;It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or reform Prop 13 and free up some affordable place to raise a new family.&lt;p&gt;Oh well.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>coldtea</author><text>&amp;gt;&lt;i&gt;It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or reform Prop 13 and free up some affordable place to raise a new family.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yeah, you would then be the &amp;quot;rich [person] who others curse for refusing to die or reform Prop 13 and free up some affordable place to raise a new family&amp;quot;</text></comment>