<story><title>Germany extends lifetime of all 3 remaining nuclear plants</title><url>https://www.dw.com/en/germany-extends-lifetime-of-all-3-remaining-nuclear-plants/a-63466196</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Cwizard</author><text>&amp;gt; „If Japan can’t control the technology nobody can“.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t understand this argument, isn&amp;#x27;t Japan known for its earthquakes? Which are essentially non-existent in Germany?&lt;p&gt;In my opinion Fukushima should be an argument _for_ nuclear power. The death toll was really low, roughly 2000, and many of those death were caused by the evacuation rather than radiation. The death toll of the tsunami&amp;#x2F;earthquake was 15000 according to wikipedia.&lt;p&gt;What should really put this into perspective is that air pollutions is estimated to kill millions every year.&lt;p&gt;And all of this is with reactors that are really old. If we would put the same amount of engineering resources into nuclear as we put into chips I am sure the number of deaths would go down a few order of magnitudes.</text></item><item><author>dependsontheq</author><text>While I agree that it would have been sensible to phase out coal and then nuclear, the german position is more complex. The fallout from Tschernobyl was measurable in Germany… measurable as in my science teacher measured it in his garden. Up to today boar and mushrooms have an elevated level of radiation in the forests around my home. So this is the emotional background, the risks are not far away. Fukushima gave the debate another spin „If Japan can’t control the technology nobody can“.&lt;p&gt;I still thank shutting them off is wrong but I think there’s a lot of history in that decision. And it’s much more history than one party deciding that.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>JohnBooty</author><text>&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;    I don&amp;#x27;t understand this argument, isn&amp;#x27;t Japan known for its earthquakes? 
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Chernobyl has often been characterized as the result of a corrupt and incompetent late-stage USSR, whereas post-WWII Japan is seen as a generally well-run country.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not agreeing or disagreeing with that, just trying to describe public opinion.</text></comment>
<story><title>Germany extends lifetime of all 3 remaining nuclear plants</title><url>https://www.dw.com/en/germany-extends-lifetime-of-all-3-remaining-nuclear-plants/a-63466196</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Cwizard</author><text>&amp;gt; „If Japan can’t control the technology nobody can“.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t understand this argument, isn&amp;#x27;t Japan known for its earthquakes? Which are essentially non-existent in Germany?&lt;p&gt;In my opinion Fukushima should be an argument _for_ nuclear power. The death toll was really low, roughly 2000, and many of those death were caused by the evacuation rather than radiation. The death toll of the tsunami&amp;#x2F;earthquake was 15000 according to wikipedia.&lt;p&gt;What should really put this into perspective is that air pollutions is estimated to kill millions every year.&lt;p&gt;And all of this is with reactors that are really old. If we would put the same amount of engineering resources into nuclear as we put into chips I am sure the number of deaths would go down a few order of magnitudes.</text></item><item><author>dependsontheq</author><text>While I agree that it would have been sensible to phase out coal and then nuclear, the german position is more complex. The fallout from Tschernobyl was measurable in Germany… measurable as in my science teacher measured it in his garden. Up to today boar and mushrooms have an elevated level of radiation in the forests around my home. So this is the emotional background, the risks are not far away. Fukushima gave the debate another spin „If Japan can’t control the technology nobody can“.&lt;p&gt;I still thank shutting them off is wrong but I think there’s a lot of history in that decision. And it’s much more history than one party deciding that.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>epivosism</author><text>There was 1 disputed radiation&amp;#x2F;nuclear related death from Fukushima.&lt;p&gt;And mention of 2200 related to the (post-tsunami) evacuation.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.wikiwand.com&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;List_of_nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_by_death_toll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.wikiwand.com&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;List_of_nuclear_and_radiation_ac...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>