<story><title>YouTube and Spotify won&apos;t launch Apple Vision Pro apps, joining Netflix</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-18/youtube-and-spotify-join-netflix-in-not-launching-apple-vision-pro-apps</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>worthless-trash</author><text>Apple maps is ... pretty bad though.</text></item><item><author>GeekyBear</author><text>&amp;gt; Apple has an opportunity here I think to make next-generation video site that favors material that works well for VisionPro and whatever follows it&lt;p&gt;I certainly remember the period when Apple didn&amp;#x27;t want to hand over the user IDs for users while they were accessing Google&amp;#x27;s map data and Google refusing to allow turn by turn driving directions on iOS until they did.&lt;p&gt;Apple&amp;#x27;s solution was to spend a fortune to develop their own Map data.&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&amp;#x27;t bet against them rolling their own 3D video sharing site.</text></item><item><author>sircastor</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t know that they&amp;#x27;ve made the effort (or would want to) but Apple has an opportunity here I think to make next-generation video site that favors material that works well for VisionPro and whatever follows it. If YouTube isn&amp;#x27;t willing to encourage content for the platform, and someone else is, they risk ending up as an also-ran.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a small population, no doubt. But it&amp;#x27;s also a population that&amp;#x27;s willing to spend a substantial amount of money, and if you can get people creating content for your platform (&amp;quot;VPTube&amp;quot; or whatever you&amp;#x27;d call it) then it&amp;#x27;s going to be harder to pull those content creators back to YouTube after that wait and see period. They&amp;#x27;re dealing with that problem with TikTok right now.</text></item><item><author>paxys</author><text>Considering most of these companies are in the middle of budget cuts and layoffs (including specifically in the YouTube division), it should be obvious that they aren’t going to be rushing to staff up teams to build an app for an untested device that will probably be in the hands of a few thousand people at launch. “Wait and see” is the best approach right now.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dijit</author><text>Apple maps was &lt;i&gt;worse at launch&lt;/i&gt; than Google Maps was at the time.&lt;p&gt;However I welcomed the change as it was Google which was preventing Siri from working outside of north america (&amp;quot;find restaurant near me&amp;quot;; didn&amp;#x27;t work in the UK until after Apple Maps)&lt;p&gt;Today the landscape is different. Google Maps is positively &lt;i&gt;littered&lt;/i&gt; with ads which makes it in some cases very annoying to use.&lt;p&gt;Turn-by-turn navigation, if you have carplay is much superior with apple maps.&lt;p&gt;They have comparably updated maps data.&lt;p&gt;So, it&amp;#x27;s a marginally better usability in some cases and equivalent in most.&lt;p&gt;Google has two advantages: Reviews and more accurate points of interest (if they are businesses).</text></comment>
<story><title>YouTube and Spotify won&apos;t launch Apple Vision Pro apps, joining Netflix</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-18/youtube-and-spotify-join-netflix-in-not-launching-apple-vision-pro-apps</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>worthless-trash</author><text>Apple maps is ... pretty bad though.</text></item><item><author>GeekyBear</author><text>&amp;gt; Apple has an opportunity here I think to make next-generation video site that favors material that works well for VisionPro and whatever follows it&lt;p&gt;I certainly remember the period when Apple didn&amp;#x27;t want to hand over the user IDs for users while they were accessing Google&amp;#x27;s map data and Google refusing to allow turn by turn driving directions on iOS until they did.&lt;p&gt;Apple&amp;#x27;s solution was to spend a fortune to develop their own Map data.&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&amp;#x27;t bet against them rolling their own 3D video sharing site.</text></item><item><author>sircastor</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t know that they&amp;#x27;ve made the effort (or would want to) but Apple has an opportunity here I think to make next-generation video site that favors material that works well for VisionPro and whatever follows it. If YouTube isn&amp;#x27;t willing to encourage content for the platform, and someone else is, they risk ending up as an also-ran.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a small population, no doubt. But it&amp;#x27;s also a population that&amp;#x27;s willing to spend a substantial amount of money, and if you can get people creating content for your platform (&amp;quot;VPTube&amp;quot; or whatever you&amp;#x27;d call it) then it&amp;#x27;s going to be harder to pull those content creators back to YouTube after that wait and see period. They&amp;#x27;re dealing with that problem with TikTok right now.</text></item><item><author>paxys</author><text>Considering most of these companies are in the middle of budget cuts and layoffs (including specifically in the YouTube division), it should be obvious that they aren’t going to be rushing to staff up teams to build an app for an untested device that will probably be in the hands of a few thousand people at launch. “Wait and see” is the best approach right now.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Modified3019</author><text>It was certainly horrific for a while, I work in agriculture across a large area and we &amp;quot;banned&amp;quot; a coworker from using it because &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; of the pins they would send us would end up a mile away somehow, whereas they didn&amp;#x27;t have that problem with google maps.&lt;p&gt;However it is very much improved these days, and workable enough. Definitely worth a re-evaluation.&lt;p&gt;Incidentally, I encounter two intermittent bugs in google maps:&lt;p&gt;- This past year there&amp;#x27;s a bug that mirrors the old apple maps problem of sending me somewhere way off from my destination in some rare and particular (barely inhabited) areas, like an AI is trying to snap the point to something normal people would recognize as a destination. But no, my destination really is the side of a field. I find I can get around this by doing a longer hold press when setting the location which seems to force the coordinates. It&amp;#x27;s always important to double check the destination didn&amp;#x27;t change on me.&lt;p&gt;- Sometimes when clicking &amp;quot;Start&amp;quot;, the app will get stuck presenting some kind of text only directions with no way to get away from that damned useless white screen until I kill the app and re-enter the destination.</text></comment>