<story><title>Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm</title><url>https://www.economist.com/business/2023/01/04/investors-conclude-that-tesla-is-a-carmaker-not-a-tech-firm</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bartread</author><text>&amp;gt; Minimalistic interiors&lt;p&gt;Is this something you see as a benefit? For me Tesla&amp;#x27;s overall aesthetic, including both their exterior looks and interior design, along with the absence of physical controls that go long with that represent their biggest downsides (outside of build quality).</text></item><item><author>judge2020</author><text>The difference seems to be that Tesla was 5-10 years ahead on everything: Minimalistic interiors, modern infotainment, mobile app performance, and of course they lead the way in making electric cars viable by showing that they can both look good and blast off in record time. But you&amp;#x27;re right that other automakers see Tesla as a threat and are catching up; for example, the range and charging curve improvements on models like the EV6 &amp;#x2F; Ioniq 5 look great, assuming the charger work [in the cold].</text></item><item><author>msoad</author><text>I have a Tesla and I also hold a short position on TSLA. My Tesla is a great car. The best car that I&amp;#x27;ve ever driven but I&amp;#x27;m not sure if it has anything that other car manufacturers can&amp;#x27;t replicate. I think Apple can make an even better car than Tesla if they build the hardware and software like their phones and computers.&lt;p&gt;The idea that Autopilot has some magic sauce that nobody else can replicate is laughable.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>lotsofpulp</author><text>The giant tablet screen that sticks out like a sore thumb is the opposite of minimalistic, or minimalistic in the worst way.&lt;p&gt;I wonder how long Tesla can get away with not offering CarPlay&amp;#x2F;Android Auto functionality.  The lack of that basic, cheap, and frequently used feature disqualifies any car from consideration in my view.</text></comment>
<story><title>Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm</title><url>https://www.economist.com/business/2023/01/04/investors-conclude-that-tesla-is-a-carmaker-not-a-tech-firm</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bartread</author><text>&amp;gt; Minimalistic interiors&lt;p&gt;Is this something you see as a benefit? For me Tesla&amp;#x27;s overall aesthetic, including both their exterior looks and interior design, along with the absence of physical controls that go long with that represent their biggest downsides (outside of build quality).</text></item><item><author>judge2020</author><text>The difference seems to be that Tesla was 5-10 years ahead on everything: Minimalistic interiors, modern infotainment, mobile app performance, and of course they lead the way in making electric cars viable by showing that they can both look good and blast off in record time. But you&amp;#x27;re right that other automakers see Tesla as a threat and are catching up; for example, the range and charging curve improvements on models like the EV6 &amp;#x2F; Ioniq 5 look great, assuming the charger work [in the cold].</text></item><item><author>msoad</author><text>I have a Tesla and I also hold a short position on TSLA. My Tesla is a great car. The best car that I&amp;#x27;ve ever driven but I&amp;#x27;m not sure if it has anything that other car manufacturers can&amp;#x27;t replicate. I think Apple can make an even better car than Tesla if they build the hardware and software like their phones and computers.&lt;p&gt;The idea that Autopilot has some magic sauce that nobody else can replicate is laughable.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>_huayra_</author><text>People ooh and aah over the tacky gigantoscreen in Teslas, but it was really a hack to avoid having to design the usual litany of buttons and knobs that go onto a dash. Thankfully most other manufacturers haven&amp;#x27;t gone as totally screen-centric as Tesla (yet...)</text></comment>