<story><title>Reddit’s Redesign</title><url>https://www.wired.com/story/reddit-redesign/?mbid=synd_digg</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dorkwood</author><text>What sort of future do companies like Reddit envision for the internet, exactly? One where I have an app on my phone for every website I visit?</text></item><item><author>onli</author><text>I think a big issue with the new design is the trust issue I&amp;#x2F;people have that stem from Reddit&amp;#x27;s other design efforts. Take the mobile website. It looks a lot nicer than the desktop site, but is completely unuseable on a lower end (but current) android device - because instead of showing content immediately it does some javascript client rendering and shows some loading screen, and that regularly takes 10-20 seconds on bigger comment threads. At the same time there is still i.reddit.com, an ugly mobile site seemingly from way back when sites started to make dedicated iPhone-targeting mobile variants, and that one is as fast as a site can be. Actually usable.&lt;p&gt;On mobile, if you visit the reddit site, they push a &amp;quot;use the app&amp;quot;-banner in your face. Every goddamn time.&lt;p&gt;When they redesigned the profiles recently there was a lot of pushback. I did not necessarily agree with that, I thought and think the new profile sites are fine in general. But what definitely was an issue was the performance. Again some javascript client rendering leading to loading indicators, even on the desktop. They improved loading times after that, but still.&lt;p&gt;So one big point of the new design is not actually &amp;quot;how will it look&amp;quot;, but whether they will get the functionality&amp;#x2F;UX right. HN does, without client side rendering and redesigns...</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>crysin</author><text>Personally, I prefer apps over websites almost always unless the app is just a dedicated browser window to the company&amp;#x27;s website. I feel like the mobile experience on almost all websites is absolutely terrible when compared to a dedicated mobile app offering. Unless companies start investing more money into making their websites feel as good and snappy as their apps do, I know I&amp;#x27;ll default to the app over the website, always.</text></comment>
<story><title>Reddit’s Redesign</title><url>https://www.wired.com/story/reddit-redesign/?mbid=synd_digg</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dorkwood</author><text>What sort of future do companies like Reddit envision for the internet, exactly? One where I have an app on my phone for every website I visit?</text></item><item><author>onli</author><text>I think a big issue with the new design is the trust issue I&amp;#x2F;people have that stem from Reddit&amp;#x27;s other design efforts. Take the mobile website. It looks a lot nicer than the desktop site, but is completely unuseable on a lower end (but current) android device - because instead of showing content immediately it does some javascript client rendering and shows some loading screen, and that regularly takes 10-20 seconds on bigger comment threads. At the same time there is still i.reddit.com, an ugly mobile site seemingly from way back when sites started to make dedicated iPhone-targeting mobile variants, and that one is as fast as a site can be. Actually usable.&lt;p&gt;On mobile, if you visit the reddit site, they push a &amp;quot;use the app&amp;quot;-banner in your face. Every goddamn time.&lt;p&gt;When they redesigned the profiles recently there was a lot of pushback. I did not necessarily agree with that, I thought and think the new profile sites are fine in general. But what definitely was an issue was the performance. Again some javascript client rendering leading to loading indicators, even on the desktop. They improved loading times after that, but still.&lt;p&gt;So one big point of the new design is not actually &amp;quot;how will it look&amp;quot;, but whether they will get the functionality&amp;#x2F;UX right. HN does, without client side rendering and redesigns...</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tootie</author><text>This is Apple&amp;#x27;s vision because Google owns the browser market. PWAs could replace at least half the apps people are using. Reddit absolutely doesn&amp;#x27;t need native apps but there are a bunch because their mobile experience is so bad.</text></comment>