<story><title>Scooters are taking cars off the road, a survey says</title><url>https://ggwash.org/view/69621/scooters-are-taking-cars-off-the-road-a-survey-says</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>clarry</author><text>What bothers me even more is the 25 kph speed limit, after which all the electronics are legally required to be dead weight.  Come on, I can cycle faster than that on muscle power (and I normally do).  I&amp;#x27;ve averaged 27 kph doing 90 kilometers on a friggin touring bike, carrying a sleeping bag, change of clothes, shoes.&lt;p&gt;I take a bike to get from place A to B faster.  I&amp;#x27;d take an electric bike to get even faster while spending less of my own energy.  Actually, I&amp;#x27;d be quite happy even with just 250W as long as I can use all of it on top of my muscle power, no matter how fast or slow I&amp;#x27;m going.&lt;p&gt;Speed is ultimately what makes me pick the car over bike for longer rides.</text></item><item><author>arthurfm</author><text>The law regarding &amp;gt; 250w e-bikes is ridiculous too and badly needs updating.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ebiketips.road.cc&amp;#x2F;content&amp;#x2F;advice&amp;#x2F;advice&amp;#x2F;buying-and-riding-an-s-pedelec-in-the-uk-1637&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ebiketips.road.cc&amp;#x2F;content&amp;#x2F;advice&amp;#x2F;advice&amp;#x2F;buying-and-r...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>neverminder</author><text>In the mean time electric scooters are illegal in UK because of some 200 year old law that talks about pigs and donkeys (&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;uk.businessinsider.com&amp;#x2F;electric-scooters-illegal-1835-highways-act-2018-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;uk.businessinsider.com&amp;#x2F;electric-scooters-illegal-1835...&lt;/a&gt;). Even so I see an increasing number of people using them, because apparently cops just turn a blind eye, which does make sense, unlike this law.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wpietri</author><text>I get that, but as someone who rides a bike in the city, very few cyclists consistently go faster than that. I don&amp;#x27;t want to have to share a bike lane with people who are riding what is more a small electric motorcycle than a bicycle.&lt;p&gt;That said, I&amp;#x27;m all for people buying electric motorcycles if that&amp;#x27;s what they want. It seems like an area ripe for innovation, and getting somebody to step down from a car to something smaller is great by me.</text></comment>
<story><title>Scooters are taking cars off the road, a survey says</title><url>https://ggwash.org/view/69621/scooters-are-taking-cars-off-the-road-a-survey-says</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>clarry</author><text>What bothers me even more is the 25 kph speed limit, after which all the electronics are legally required to be dead weight.  Come on, I can cycle faster than that on muscle power (and I normally do).  I&amp;#x27;ve averaged 27 kph doing 90 kilometers on a friggin touring bike, carrying a sleeping bag, change of clothes, shoes.&lt;p&gt;I take a bike to get from place A to B faster.  I&amp;#x27;d take an electric bike to get even faster while spending less of my own energy.  Actually, I&amp;#x27;d be quite happy even with just 250W as long as I can use all of it on top of my muscle power, no matter how fast or slow I&amp;#x27;m going.&lt;p&gt;Speed is ultimately what makes me pick the car over bike for longer rides.</text></item><item><author>arthurfm</author><text>The law regarding &amp;gt; 250w e-bikes is ridiculous too and badly needs updating.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ebiketips.road.cc&amp;#x2F;content&amp;#x2F;advice&amp;#x2F;advice&amp;#x2F;buying-and-riding-an-s-pedelec-in-the-uk-1637&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ebiketips.road.cc&amp;#x2F;content&amp;#x2F;advice&amp;#x2F;advice&amp;#x2F;buying-and-r...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>neverminder</author><text>In the mean time electric scooters are illegal in UK because of some 200 year old law that talks about pigs and donkeys (&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;uk.businessinsider.com&amp;#x2F;electric-scooters-illegal-1835-highways-act-2018-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;uk.businessinsider.com&amp;#x2F;electric-scooters-illegal-1835...&lt;/a&gt;). Even so I see an increasing number of people using them, because apparently cops just turn a blind eye, which does make sense, unlike this law.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>enoch_r</author><text>Riding consistently enough to gain speed is strongly correlated with being a better rider. I don&amp;#x27;t want to share the bike path with a bunch of 14-year-old kids traveling 40kph on electric bikes that they got for Christmas.</text></comment>