<story><title>How the Mid-Victorians Worked, Ate and Died (2009)</title><url>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2672390/</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>stupidcar</author><text>One of the paper&amp;#x27;s authors, Dr Judith Rowbotham, is a historian, not a scientist:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.plymouth.ac.uk&amp;#x2F;staff&amp;#x2F;judith-rowbotham&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.plymouth.ac.uk&amp;#x2F;staff&amp;#x2F;judith-rowbotham&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;And here is the other author, Dr Paul Clayton, promoting &amp;quot;MonaVie&amp;quot; supplements:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=C28Bx_jbP_o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=C28Bx_jbP_o&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;MonaVie turns out to be a multi-level marketing company selling food supplements (the same kind of supplements that this paper goes out of its way to recommend) that defaulted on a $152m loan in 2015 and went into foreclosure:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;MonaVie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;MonaVie&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>How the Mid-Victorians Worked, Ate and Died (2009)</title><url>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2672390/</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>georgeecollins</author><text>This doesn&amp;#x27;t seem like a fair comparison because you are comparing the lifespans of a population that includes people who needed modern medical attention to survive to age 5 to another population that contained none of those people.</text></comment>