<story><title>I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/11/technology/airtags-gps-surveillance.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ameminator</author><text>Look, I usually try to be charitable. However, this article offered no new insight on Apple Airtags.
If you don&amp;#x27;t want to waste your time, allow me to summarize:&lt;p&gt;Woman puts Airtags in a car. Her husband isn&amp;#x27;t able to find them, even using Apple&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;anti-stalk&amp;quot; features. Ergo, Apple needs to do more.&lt;p&gt;I ask - what new insight did this article offer on Airtags? I don&amp;#x27;t think anyone can conclude either way on the effectiveness of Apple&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;safety measures&amp;quot; when it comes to Airtags, from this small anecdote.&lt;p&gt;In my mind, the article buries the Lede on the &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; discussion - should Apple be doing these measures at all? I find &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; issue far from settled when this article takes it for granted that not only should Apple take these safety measures, they should do more!&lt;p&gt;The author also seems to be somewhat deceptive - &amp;quot;I sound like a terrible wife, but it&amp;#x27;s for journalism!&amp;quot;
No, it seems like the author played a prank on her husband a while back and used that to neuroticaly follow him, then tried to excuse that behavior by writing this fluff piece.&lt;p&gt;Anyways, I do think there is interesting discussion to be had about Airtags and if&amp;#x2F;what Apple should be doing to prevent unwanted tracking. However, this article didn&amp;#x27;t have that discussion or contribute to it in a meaningful way.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bberenberg</author><text>I found the key quote to be&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;My husband, of course, had agreed to this in principle, but didn’t realize just how many devices I had planted on him. Of the seven trackers, he found only two: a Tile he felt in the breast pocket of his coat and an AirTag in his backpack when he was looking for something else. “It is impossible to find a device that makes no noise and gives no warning,” he said, when I showed him the ones he missed.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;which I read as &amp;quot;Apple needs to improve, but still drastically better than everything else out there&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I am not in the market for AirTags, but if you are completely scatterbrained and this provides you a helpful way to manage your stuff, AirTags seem to be least bad way of doing this.</text></comment>
<story><title>I used Apple AirTags, Tiles and a GPS tracker to watch my husband’s every move</title><url>https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/11/technology/airtags-gps-surveillance.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ameminator</author><text>Look, I usually try to be charitable. However, this article offered no new insight on Apple Airtags.
If you don&amp;#x27;t want to waste your time, allow me to summarize:&lt;p&gt;Woman puts Airtags in a car. Her husband isn&amp;#x27;t able to find them, even using Apple&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;anti-stalk&amp;quot; features. Ergo, Apple needs to do more.&lt;p&gt;I ask - what new insight did this article offer on Airtags? I don&amp;#x27;t think anyone can conclude either way on the effectiveness of Apple&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;safety measures&amp;quot; when it comes to Airtags, from this small anecdote.&lt;p&gt;In my mind, the article buries the Lede on the &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; discussion - should Apple be doing these measures at all? I find &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; issue far from settled when this article takes it for granted that not only should Apple take these safety measures, they should do more!&lt;p&gt;The author also seems to be somewhat deceptive - &amp;quot;I sound like a terrible wife, but it&amp;#x27;s for journalism!&amp;quot;
No, it seems like the author played a prank on her husband a while back and used that to neuroticaly follow him, then tried to excuse that behavior by writing this fluff piece.&lt;p&gt;Anyways, I do think there is interesting discussion to be had about Airtags and if&amp;#x2F;what Apple should be doing to prevent unwanted tracking. However, this article didn&amp;#x27;t have that discussion or contribute to it in a meaningful way.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>BeefWellington</author><text>&amp;gt; I ask - what new insight did this article offer on Airtags? I don&amp;#x27;t think anyone can conclude either way on the effectiveness of Apple&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;safety measures&amp;quot; when it comes to Airtags, from this small anecdote.&lt;p&gt;While I understand where you&amp;#x27;re coming from, I think there&amp;#x27;s value in adding to the chorus when it comes to putting pressure on a company to rethink a strategy.&lt;p&gt;Certainly, while articles such as this may not be news to you or I, they are likely to be news to a number of people on HN, their friends &amp;amp; family, etc.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; The author also seems to be somewhat deceptive - &amp;quot;I sound like a terrible wife, but it&amp;#x27;s for journalism!&amp;quot; No, it seems like the author played a prank on her husband a while back and used that to neuroticaly follow him, then tried to excuse that behavior by writing this fluff piece.&lt;p&gt;This point misses the mark IMO. The issue with AirTags at their core is that they permit people who are deceptive and shady to do bad things much easier than they could before.&lt;p&gt;I think the cat&amp;#x27;s out of the bag now on this type of tech though. Tile&amp;#x27;s been around for a while, AirTags are now everywhere, the goal now should be developing detection systems (which shouldn&amp;#x27;t be too hard).</text></comment>