<story><title>Big fish are found deep not because of age, climate, or prey, but because of us</title><url>https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/06/ecological-law-turns-out-to-just-be-the-result-of-us-fishing/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>danharaj</author><text>With what? Fake internet points? Some reward, where do I redeem them?</text></item><item><author>vivafrance</author><text>Most comments in a community are unsupported speculation. Those commenters that parrot popular opinions are rewarded.</text></item><item><author>gowld</author><text>Maybe it was met with disdain because it was unsupported speculation?
Why would a fishing effect occur over a span of a few recently years, instead of over 100 years of fishing?&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.worldwildlife.org&amp;#x2F;stories&amp;#x2F;sockeye-salmon-and-climate-change&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.worldwildlife.org&amp;#x2F;stories&amp;#x2F;sockeye-salmon-and-cli...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>southern_cross</author><text>I read a story once where ongoing changes in the timing of salmon runs were (of course) being blamed on climate change by scientists. But then someone who is actually in the fishing industry pointed out that for ages now we&amp;#x27;ve been artificially selecting out those salmon which run during the &amp;quot;standard window&amp;quot;, leaving in their wake mostly survivors who show up a little bit sooner or a little bit later, outside of that window. This person was of course then treated with absolute disdain by the online community which was discussing the issue; he might have even been banned outright for saying that.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>nostrademons</author><text>Why do you post on HN?  Would you continue to post if you were shadowbanned or consistently downvoted?&lt;p&gt;Status is a powerful motivator, and you don&amp;#x27;t even need the points.  You just have to feel like people are listening and take what you say seriously.</text></comment>
<story><title>Big fish are found deep not because of age, climate, or prey, but because of us</title><url>https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/06/ecological-law-turns-out-to-just-be-the-result-of-us-fishing/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>danharaj</author><text>With what? Fake internet points? Some reward, where do I redeem them?</text></item><item><author>vivafrance</author><text>Most comments in a community are unsupported speculation. Those commenters that parrot popular opinions are rewarded.</text></item><item><author>gowld</author><text>Maybe it was met with disdain because it was unsupported speculation?
Why would a fishing effect occur over a span of a few recently years, instead of over 100 years of fishing?&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.worldwildlife.org&amp;#x2F;stories&amp;#x2F;sockeye-salmon-and-climate-change&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.worldwildlife.org&amp;#x2F;stories&amp;#x2F;sockeye-salmon-and-cli...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>southern_cross</author><text>I read a story once where ongoing changes in the timing of salmon runs were (of course) being blamed on climate change by scientists. But then someone who is actually in the fishing industry pointed out that for ages now we&amp;#x27;ve been artificially selecting out those salmon which run during the &amp;quot;standard window&amp;quot;, leaving in their wake mostly survivors who show up a little bit sooner or a little bit later, outside of that window. This person was of course then treated with absolute disdain by the online community which was discussing the issue; he might have even been banned outright for saying that.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>lowpro</author><text>Yes, that’s how all major social networks work. Despite everyone knowing it’s dumb, it still works. They don’t mean anything except they do because people feel they mean something.</text></comment>