<story><title>Shadow: New browser engine made almost entirely in JavaScript</title><url>https://goose.icu/introducing-shadow/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>EvanAnderson</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s a product here that&amp;#x27;s been waiting to happen for awhile. I&amp;#x27;ve been anticipating somebody cross-compiling another browser engine to WASM but this works, too.&lt;p&gt;Deliver your site only to the &amp;quot;inner browser&amp;quot; (that the user has no control over because it&amp;#x27;s heavily obfuscated and tricked-out with anti-debugging code) and you eliminate all ad blockers. Throw some DNS-over-HTTPS w&amp;#x2F; certificate pinning in for good measure and you kill DNS-based ad blockers too.&lt;p&gt;Accessibility will be a challenge but if it sells that&amp;#x27;ll get &amp;quot;fixed&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;(I think this idea is evil, BTW, but somebody is going to do it.)&lt;p&gt;Edit: As an aside this needs to go here, too. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.destroyallsoftware.com&amp;#x2F;talks&amp;#x2F;the-birth-and-death-of-javascript&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.destroyallsoftware.com&amp;#x2F;talks&amp;#x2F;the-birth-and-death...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>matheusmoreira</author><text>Hopefully that will be literally illegal due to accessibility concerns.&lt;p&gt;Doesn&amp;#x27;t matter either way. Can&amp;#x27;t wait for AI-powered ad blocking. Just imagine it. AI parses content and filters out ads, brands, even subtle PR text from pages automatically. Not just textual content either. It also kills ads in audio, video, images.&lt;p&gt;If I can imagine it, it must be possible. I&amp;#x27;m sure someone much smarter than me will create this at some point. Perhaps this comment will inspire that person.</text></comment>
<story><title>Shadow: New browser engine made almost entirely in JavaScript</title><url>https://goose.icu/introducing-shadow/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>EvanAnderson</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s a product here that&amp;#x27;s been waiting to happen for awhile. I&amp;#x27;ve been anticipating somebody cross-compiling another browser engine to WASM but this works, too.&lt;p&gt;Deliver your site only to the &amp;quot;inner browser&amp;quot; (that the user has no control over because it&amp;#x27;s heavily obfuscated and tricked-out with anti-debugging code) and you eliminate all ad blockers. Throw some DNS-over-HTTPS w&amp;#x2F; certificate pinning in for good measure and you kill DNS-based ad blockers too.&lt;p&gt;Accessibility will be a challenge but if it sells that&amp;#x27;ll get &amp;quot;fixed&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;(I think this idea is evil, BTW, but somebody is going to do it.)&lt;p&gt;Edit: As an aside this needs to go here, too. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.destroyallsoftware.com&amp;#x2F;talks&amp;#x2F;the-birth-and-death-of-javascript&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.destroyallsoftware.com&amp;#x2F;talks&amp;#x2F;the-birth-and-death...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tshaddox</author><text>&amp;gt; Deliver your site only to the &amp;quot;inner browser&amp;quot; (that the user has no control over because it&amp;#x27;s heavily obfuscated and tricked-out with anti-debugging code) and you eliminate all ad blockers. Throw some DNS-over-HTTPS w&amp;#x2F; certificate pinning in for good measure and you kill DNS-based ad blockers too.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m confused how the &amp;quot;inner browser&amp;quot; meaningfully helps you accomplish this. How is this any easier or more effective than just having a website that hosts its own advertising assets (or proxies them) and obfuscates&amp;#x2F;randomizes its DOM structure to make ads difficult to target with simplistic ad-blocking rules?</text></comment>