<story><title>“We currently have no plans to support Xwayland”</title><url>https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/925605/linux/nvidia-364-12-release-vulkan-glvnd-drm-kms-and-eglstreams/post/5188874/#5188874</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>shmerl</author><text>&lt;i&gt;&amp;gt; Gaming enthusiasts aren&amp;#x27;t running Linux.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;More and more do today.</text></item><item><author>cthalupa</author><text>A company that is wholly reliant on Linux to sell quite a few of their products?&lt;p&gt;Gaming enthusiasts aren&amp;#x27;t running Linux. The HPC&amp;#x2F;GPU compute market don&amp;#x27;t care about Wayland. Android devices aren&amp;#x27;t using Wayland.&lt;p&gt;What part of their target market runs Linux?&lt;p&gt;What portion of the desktop market runs Linux?&lt;p&gt;If it wasn&amp;#x27;t for Linux, I&amp;#x27;d be in a very different profession, so I&amp;#x27;m a huge fan. But I don&amp;#x27;t understand where you guys that act like the Linux desktop is a big enough market that this will make a material affect on nvidia&amp;#x27;s bottom line is so weird to me.</text></item><item><author>posguy</author><text>For a company that is wholly reliant on Linux to sell quite a few of their products, the lack of support from Nvidia continues to be impressive.&lt;p&gt;Intel is actively trying to kill off lowend and mid-range GPUs in the desktop, and has locked them out in the mobile space, leaving Nvidia with just the high end GPU market and their ventures into the ARM SOC space.&lt;p&gt;By not treating Linux end user devices as first class citizens, I don&amp;#x27;t see how Nvidia intends to have a viable business long term. Who wants a tablet, phone or desktop GPU without drivers?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>nextlevelwizard</author><text>Not to pile on, but every few years I decide to see if Linux is ready for gaming. I use it every day to get my work done, so why not double dip and not have to deal with Windows?&lt;p&gt;However it&amp;#x27;s never been good enough. At first there just were no drivers, so I couldn&amp;#x27;t get acceptable performance from any game. Then came drivers, but I had to fight for days to get them to work on handful of games and even then performance was sub par compared to Windows. Last time drivers installed without any problems, but still from the games I tend to play only couple had native Linux support (in this case, they could be downloaded straight from Steam), but still most required Wine and that sucked the performance right out. Then there were bunch of games that didn&amp;#x27;t even work with Wine.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m first to admit that I do not have high end gaming PC, but 16GB of middle of the road RAM, i5 2500K, and nVidia GTX 970 serve me well on Windows side. Frankly, I see no reason to spend more money to get the same performance on Linux.&lt;p&gt;If you can get acceptable performance from your Linux PC while gaming then more power to you, but from my point of view we are still long way and I mean really long way from gaming being &amp;quot;viable&amp;quot; on Linux.</text></comment>
<story><title>“We currently have no plans to support Xwayland”</title><url>https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/925605/linux/nvidia-364-12-release-vulkan-glvnd-drm-kms-and-eglstreams/post/5188874/#5188874</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>shmerl</author><text>&lt;i&gt;&amp;gt; Gaming enthusiasts aren&amp;#x27;t running Linux.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;More and more do today.</text></item><item><author>cthalupa</author><text>A company that is wholly reliant on Linux to sell quite a few of their products?&lt;p&gt;Gaming enthusiasts aren&amp;#x27;t running Linux. The HPC&amp;#x2F;GPU compute market don&amp;#x27;t care about Wayland. Android devices aren&amp;#x27;t using Wayland.&lt;p&gt;What part of their target market runs Linux?&lt;p&gt;What portion of the desktop market runs Linux?&lt;p&gt;If it wasn&amp;#x27;t for Linux, I&amp;#x27;d be in a very different profession, so I&amp;#x27;m a huge fan. But I don&amp;#x27;t understand where you guys that act like the Linux desktop is a big enough market that this will make a material affect on nvidia&amp;#x27;s bottom line is so weird to me.</text></item><item><author>posguy</author><text>For a company that is wholly reliant on Linux to sell quite a few of their products, the lack of support from Nvidia continues to be impressive.&lt;p&gt;Intel is actively trying to kill off lowend and mid-range GPUs in the desktop, and has locked them out in the mobile space, leaving Nvidia with just the high end GPU market and their ventures into the ARM SOC space.&lt;p&gt;By not treating Linux end user devices as first class citizens, I don&amp;#x27;t see how Nvidia intends to have a viable business long term. Who wants a tablet, phone or desktop GPU without drivers?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>WillPostForFood</author><text>Looking at the most recent Steam Hardware &amp;amp; Software Survey, Linux share is at 0.72% and shrinking (a year ago it was 0.81% two years ago it was 0.89%).</text></comment>