<story><title>UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors to donors</title><url>https://www.auditor.ca.gov/reports/2019-113/sections.html#section1</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>TrackerFF</author><text>In this day and age, with all the fierce competition, it&amp;#x27;s a real problem that elite universities are admitting rich kids on such unfair and uneven grounds.&lt;p&gt;Going to the &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; school can transform the life of some people, essentially pulling them up from the lower working classes, and opening up the doors to middle, or even upper-middle classes.&lt;p&gt;And what&amp;#x27;s even worse, a lot of these rich kids could go pretty much &lt;i&gt;anywhere&lt;/i&gt;, without it affecting their future finances or lifestyle - if anything, it almost seems like a vanity project from their parents side, where they get the bragging rights that their kids are studying at HYPS or whatever.&lt;p&gt;And it&amp;#x27;s not that the kids of richer parents are necessarily worse, academically speaking - many of them get private tutors, go to private &amp;#x2F; prep schools, etc. from young age, but still the parents are so risk averse, that they feel the need to pour even more money, just to eliminate the stress of uncertainty. Even if it&amp;#x27;s illegal.&lt;p&gt;I know these cases encompass a broad range of controversy (for example that top-tier Asian-American students can&amp;#x27;t get into certain schools, because of some nonsensical &amp;quot;personality&amp;quot; assessments) - but in the end, it&amp;#x27;s just plain old classism. Doesn&amp;#x27;t mater what skin color you have, where you come from; As long as you have the cash, the odds are increasing in your favor.&lt;p&gt;Then you have rich folks like David E. Shaw. The guy spent literally &lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;tens&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt; of millions in donations, to all the top schools, just to increase the chance of his kids getting accepted (or rather - minimize the chances of their kids getting rejected)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jjeaff</author><text>And just in case anyone thinks the idea that an elite school won&amp;#x27;t help a rich kid, there have been studies indicating that is the case.&lt;p&gt;The one that comes to mind was the study that compared long term outcomes of students who were accepted to Harvard and attended to those who were accepted but did not attend.&lt;p&gt;Average future incomes were not statistically different.&lt;p&gt;But the study did note that the starkest improvents in future incomes were found in poor and minority students.</text></comment>
<story><title>UC Berkeley inappropriately admitted students as favors to donors</title><url>https://www.auditor.ca.gov/reports/2019-113/sections.html#section1</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>TrackerFF</author><text>In this day and age, with all the fierce competition, it&amp;#x27;s a real problem that elite universities are admitting rich kids on such unfair and uneven grounds.&lt;p&gt;Going to the &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; school can transform the life of some people, essentially pulling them up from the lower working classes, and opening up the doors to middle, or even upper-middle classes.&lt;p&gt;And what&amp;#x27;s even worse, a lot of these rich kids could go pretty much &lt;i&gt;anywhere&lt;/i&gt;, without it affecting their future finances or lifestyle - if anything, it almost seems like a vanity project from their parents side, where they get the bragging rights that their kids are studying at HYPS or whatever.&lt;p&gt;And it&amp;#x27;s not that the kids of richer parents are necessarily worse, academically speaking - many of them get private tutors, go to private &amp;#x2F; prep schools, etc. from young age, but still the parents are so risk averse, that they feel the need to pour even more money, just to eliminate the stress of uncertainty. Even if it&amp;#x27;s illegal.&lt;p&gt;I know these cases encompass a broad range of controversy (for example that top-tier Asian-American students can&amp;#x27;t get into certain schools, because of some nonsensical &amp;quot;personality&amp;quot; assessments) - but in the end, it&amp;#x27;s just plain old classism. Doesn&amp;#x27;t mater what skin color you have, where you come from; As long as you have the cash, the odds are increasing in your favor.&lt;p&gt;Then you have rich folks like David E. Shaw. The guy spent literally &lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;tens&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt; of millions in donations, to all the top schools, just to increase the chance of his kids getting accepted (or rather - minimize the chances of their kids getting rejected)</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mellowdream</author><text>Private schools can be and are as unfair as they want, only it&amp;#x27;s upsetting when they still maintain pretenses suggesting they are not.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s nice that this sort of due diligence and review is even possible with public institutions.</text></comment>