<story><title>Memorandum on Microsoft’s strategy against Linux and Open Source software (1998)</title><url>http://www.catb.org/esr/halloween/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Leon</author><text>&amp;gt; forced upgrades&lt;p&gt;I think the forced upgrades were a good thing. The security model on Windows 10 and continued support of updates to 10 is overall a Good Thing for the average Windows User. The majority of users on Windows run their systems in extremely non-secure ways and skip updates and upgrades completely. This is a danger to the internet as a whole.&lt;p&gt;To me it ultimately comes down to this: I can&amp;#x27;t force my older relatives to update their machines or even stop them from  running ancient versions of Windows. On that front, Windows 10 made things better.</text></item><item><author>dm319</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s a lot of people on HN and reddit who don&amp;#x27;t understand the scepticism some people have for microsoft.  But actually, I wouldn&amp;#x27;t even say things have changed that much recently - Windows 10 was born into controversy with both the forced upgrades and spying.  Skype didn&amp;#x27;t happen too long ago, nor did Nokia.&lt;p&gt;I also like this post here[1] from reddit about some of the earlier evils of Microsoft&amp;#x27;s leadership.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.reddit.com&amp;#x2F;r&amp;#x2F;AskReddit&amp;#x2F;comments&amp;#x2F;3aicvf&amp;#x2F;what_villain_lived_long_enough_to_see_themselves&amp;#x2F;csd2rrl&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.reddit.com&amp;#x2F;r&amp;#x2F;AskReddit&amp;#x2F;comments&amp;#x2F;3aicvf&amp;#x2F;what_vill...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know there is an open-source movement going on with MS, but I inherently don&amp;#x27;t trust them - they&amp;#x27;ve got prior form and still have the power to shift the software landscape even more in their favour.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Piskvorrr</author><text>Better? &lt;i&gt;Better&lt;/i&gt;!?! Don&amp;#x27;t even get me &lt;i&gt;started&lt;/i&gt; on how much support time the constant stream of automated reinstalls causes, even &lt;i&gt;when&lt;/i&gt; it works. (Last iteration, about a week ago: Win10 decided it dislikes Avast, reminding me very much of Windows&amp;#x27; ancient brouhaha with DR-DOS) &amp;quot;Yeah, yeah, you wanted to get things done, where do you want to go today and stuff, whatever. Nope, you&amp;#x27;re gonna look at this pretty percentage for an hour and hope it doesn&amp;#x27;t end in &lt;i&gt;Rolling back&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I agree that keeping on ancient &lt;i&gt;Windows&lt;/i&gt; is a chore now, and keeping systems up to date is good for the users and the Net in general; but thanks to the WinX forced-upgrade &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; the unreliable updates, I&amp;#x27;ve deployed some more Ubuntu clients. For some mysterious reason, those don&amp;#x27;t need to jump into your face with YOU WILL REBOOT NOW PUNY HUMAN.&lt;p&gt;(And really, I would &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; to have a system that has a good security model, even if that means Windows...but this is far outweighed by the abovementioned trampling of the user: whoops you turned your back for a few minutes, oh well, you didn&amp;#x27;t need to save or close that properly anyway)</text></comment>
<story><title>Memorandum on Microsoft’s strategy against Linux and Open Source software (1998)</title><url>http://www.catb.org/esr/halloween/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Leon</author><text>&amp;gt; forced upgrades&lt;p&gt;I think the forced upgrades were a good thing. The security model on Windows 10 and continued support of updates to 10 is overall a Good Thing for the average Windows User. The majority of users on Windows run their systems in extremely non-secure ways and skip updates and upgrades completely. This is a danger to the internet as a whole.&lt;p&gt;To me it ultimately comes down to this: I can&amp;#x27;t force my older relatives to update their machines or even stop them from  running ancient versions of Windows. On that front, Windows 10 made things better.</text></item><item><author>dm319</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s a lot of people on HN and reddit who don&amp;#x27;t understand the scepticism some people have for microsoft.  But actually, I wouldn&amp;#x27;t even say things have changed that much recently - Windows 10 was born into controversy with both the forced upgrades and spying.  Skype didn&amp;#x27;t happen too long ago, nor did Nokia.&lt;p&gt;I also like this post here[1] from reddit about some of the earlier evils of Microsoft&amp;#x27;s leadership.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.reddit.com&amp;#x2F;r&amp;#x2F;AskReddit&amp;#x2F;comments&amp;#x2F;3aicvf&amp;#x2F;what_villain_lived_long_enough_to_see_themselves&amp;#x2F;csd2rrl&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.reddit.com&amp;#x2F;r&amp;#x2F;AskReddit&amp;#x2F;comments&amp;#x2F;3aicvf&amp;#x2F;what_vill...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know there is an open-source movement going on with MS, but I inherently don&amp;#x27;t trust them - they&amp;#x27;ve got prior form and still have the power to shift the software landscape even more in their favour.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>iajrz</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s a nice take - it&amp;#x27;s still understandable that many of us would rather be in control of the software we&amp;#x27;re using, though, isn&amp;#x27;t it? It&amp;#x27;s - irksome.&lt;p&gt;If one of my prod servers were forcefully updated - with no warning, therefore no chance to make backups - I&amp;#x27;d be furious. If my main dev machine was bricked as a result of forceful updates, as I seem to recall it happened to some folk...&lt;p&gt;It feels like they disregard users in that sense, and it&amp;#x27;s sad.</text></comment>