<story><title>Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location</title><url>http://abc7news.com/automotive/i-team-exclusive-victim-who-died-in-tesla-crash-had-complained-about-auto-pilot/3275600/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>segmondy</author><text>One of the things you learn in flying is not to force it.  If conditions are not safe.  Just forget about it.   It almost seems the same type of judgement needs to be made for auto-pilot.   If your auto-pilot acts up at all.  Just turn it off and don&amp;#x27;t use it till it&amp;#x27;s resolved.   All you need is one incident to be dead, so if you get a chance to observe any abnormalities, consider it a blessing.&lt;p&gt;Something that will also be great will be a sort of &amp;quot;crash dump&amp;#x2F;bug report&amp;quot; button for these cars.   If at any time your car does something unsafe, you can hit that button.  The car will save the last 60 seconds so the manufacturer can analyze it to debug and figure out what went wrong.&lt;p&gt;I was so excited about auto-pilot and dreamed of getting in my car and sleeping while it made cross-country trips.  So much for that, that seems way far out.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Someone1234</author><text>&amp;gt; Something that will also be great will be a sort of &amp;quot;crash dump&amp;#x2F;bug report&amp;quot; button for these cars.&lt;p&gt;Good point, and it isn&amp;#x27;t just vehicles with auto-pilot perhaps all vehicles.&lt;p&gt;The 2017 and 2018 Chrysler Pacifica Minivan kept on randomly shutting off[0] and loosing all electrical power at freeway speeds. You had to put the vehicle back into park, on the freeway, to restart it. There are several stories of near death experiences trying to get to the shoulder. It was intermittent.&lt;p&gt;This is relevant because nobody could figure out why, even the manufacturer. They had to install custom self-powered diagnostic equipment in consumer&amp;#x27;s vehicles to even try and get enough data on it. Turns out that suddenly cutting power to the onboard computers doesn&amp;#x27;t make them very useful for diagnostic analysis, some dealers even acted like the problem didn&amp;#x27;t exist because the computer had no record.&lt;p&gt;They did ultimately get it fixed (replaced an engine management unit or similar) but it does go to show that modern vehicles are getting so complicated that even manufacturers are struggling to stay ahead of it. Tesla&amp;#x27;s autopilot and similar just takes that up another notch.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.autoblog.com&amp;#x2F;2017&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;21&amp;#x2F;chrysler-pacifica-owners-report-sudden-power-loss-fca-investigating&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.autoblog.com&amp;#x2F;2017&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;21&amp;#x2F;chrysler-pacifica-owners...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Tesla crash victim had complained about auto-pilot in same location</title><url>http://abc7news.com/automotive/i-team-exclusive-victim-who-died-in-tesla-crash-had-complained-about-auto-pilot/3275600/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>segmondy</author><text>One of the things you learn in flying is not to force it.  If conditions are not safe.  Just forget about it.   It almost seems the same type of judgement needs to be made for auto-pilot.   If your auto-pilot acts up at all.  Just turn it off and don&amp;#x27;t use it till it&amp;#x27;s resolved.   All you need is one incident to be dead, so if you get a chance to observe any abnormalities, consider it a blessing.&lt;p&gt;Something that will also be great will be a sort of &amp;quot;crash dump&amp;#x2F;bug report&amp;quot; button for these cars.   If at any time your car does something unsafe, you can hit that button.  The car will save the last 60 seconds so the manufacturer can analyze it to debug and figure out what went wrong.&lt;p&gt;I was so excited about auto-pilot and dreamed of getting in my car and sleeping while it made cross-country trips.  So much for that, that seems way far out.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>herbst</author><text>&amp;gt; I was so excited about auto-pilot and dreamed of getting in my car and sleeping while it made cross-country trips. So much for that, that seems way far out.&lt;p&gt;This is more a hijack than a direct critique but I think the general issue is the assumption that we need a private vehicle for that.&lt;p&gt;Trains are perfectly capable for bringing me from A to B while I am sleeping for years now.&lt;p&gt;Edit:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F; with years I mean years. Before that pressure made longer rides usually more uncomfortable than they are now with modern trains. Probably only because my area has plenty of mountain tho.</text></comment>