<story><title>SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas</title><url>http://mashable.com/2013/03/21/sendgrid-fires-adria-richards/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nilkn</author><text>I&apos;m honestly curious what this even has to do with women. That&apos;s what puzzles me most about this whole incident.&lt;p&gt;Maybe I&apos;m insensitive or ignorant. I&apos;ll admit it if that&apos;s the case and learn. Right now, though, I just don&apos;t get it. I just don&apos;t see how a dongle joke is sexist. It&apos;s &lt;i&gt;anatomical&lt;/i&gt;. It might have some mild sexual undertone, but there&apos;s a huge difference between sexism and a sexual undertone--they aren&apos;t the same thing at all.&lt;p&gt;Maybe if I heard the exact joke it would help. But I&apos;ve heard just as many penis jokes from women as I have men.</text></item><item><author>salman89</author><text>&quot;I would feel really uncomfortable if I was in the same room as this person. What if I accidentally say something that she finds offensive? Am I next?&quot;&lt;p&gt;I&apos;m not agreeing with anything Adria did, but the issue of being labeled as the &quot;tattletale&quot; probably plays a big part in most women&apos;s reluctance to report real harassment.</text></item><item><author>blhack</author><text>I really wish that this whole thing could have ended amicably (perhaps with Adria apologizing to the devs [by the way, the guy who was fired &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; already publicly apologized]).&lt;p&gt;It&apos;s too bad that sendgrid had to fire her, I would never wish that somebody had their livlihood taken from them like that, but her job was to be a developer evangelist, which is a job she isn&apos;t realistically capable of performing anymore.&lt;p&gt;I would feel &lt;i&gt;really uncomfortable&lt;/i&gt; if I was in the same room as this person.  What if I accidentally say something that she finds offensive?  Am I next?&lt;p&gt;And honestly, she can&apos;t even function as a sort of &quot;women&apos;s tech evangelist&quot; anymore.  Most [all, actually] of the women I&apos;ve talked to about this are &lt;i&gt;furious&lt;/i&gt; with her over how badly this portrays women.&lt;p&gt;It sucks...but this is on par with firing a dev who can&apos;t program.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dfxm12</author><text>You&apos;re correct. This isn&apos;t about women, just one woman in particular.&lt;p&gt;If there&apos;s one thing women don&apos;t like, it&apos;s being lumped together and generalised... :P</text></comment>
<story><title>SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas</title><url>http://mashable.com/2013/03/21/sendgrid-fires-adria-richards/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nilkn</author><text>I&apos;m honestly curious what this even has to do with women. That&apos;s what puzzles me most about this whole incident.&lt;p&gt;Maybe I&apos;m insensitive or ignorant. I&apos;ll admit it if that&apos;s the case and learn. Right now, though, I just don&apos;t get it. I just don&apos;t see how a dongle joke is sexist. It&apos;s &lt;i&gt;anatomical&lt;/i&gt;. It might have some mild sexual undertone, but there&apos;s a huge difference between sexism and a sexual undertone--they aren&apos;t the same thing at all.&lt;p&gt;Maybe if I heard the exact joke it would help. But I&apos;ve heard just as many penis jokes from women as I have men.</text></item><item><author>salman89</author><text>&quot;I would feel really uncomfortable if I was in the same room as this person. What if I accidentally say something that she finds offensive? Am I next?&quot;&lt;p&gt;I&apos;m not agreeing with anything Adria did, but the issue of being labeled as the &quot;tattletale&quot; probably plays a big part in most women&apos;s reluctance to report real harassment.</text></item><item><author>blhack</author><text>I really wish that this whole thing could have ended amicably (perhaps with Adria apologizing to the devs [by the way, the guy who was fired &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt; already publicly apologized]).&lt;p&gt;It&apos;s too bad that sendgrid had to fire her, I would never wish that somebody had their livlihood taken from them like that, but her job was to be a developer evangelist, which is a job she isn&apos;t realistically capable of performing anymore.&lt;p&gt;I would feel &lt;i&gt;really uncomfortable&lt;/i&gt; if I was in the same room as this person.  What if I accidentally say something that she finds offensive?  Am I next?&lt;p&gt;And honestly, she can&apos;t even function as a sort of &quot;women&apos;s tech evangelist&quot; anymore.  Most [all, actually] of the women I&apos;ve talked to about this are &lt;i&gt;furious&lt;/i&gt; with her over how badly this portrays women.&lt;p&gt;It sucks...but this is on par with firing a dev who can&apos;t program.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>devilshaircut</author><text>I agree with you that it is at worst an anatomical joke that is not funny and hasn&apos;t the slightest sexual undertone to it.</text></comment>