<story><title>California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in</title><url>https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-10-21/california-tried-to-save-the-nation-from-the-misery-of-tax-filing-then-intuit-stepped-in</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>elthran</author><text>Not just Japan, also true for the UK with our Pay As You Earn system - you get assigned a tax code, and the appropriate amount is automatically deducted from your payslip. No need to file anything, and refunds&amp;#x2F;demands get generated automatically each year if you&amp;#x27;ve been changing jobs&amp;#x2F;not working&amp;#x2F;other odd circumstances meaning that the amount you paid doesn&amp;#x27;t match what you were expected to</text></item><item><author>gigatexal</author><text>HEY! Fellow US ex-pat here in Germany. I do use germantaxes.de which offers a hand-holding experience and all in English but the fact that there&amp;#x27;s a simple government provided solution is how it should be.&lt;p&gt;All this hate towards FB and others but we really should be reigning in the likes of Intuit because filing taxes should not cost anything for simple W-2&amp;#x27;s.&lt;p&gt;I recall reading that in Japan if you have just wage income it&amp;#x27;s more or less automatic. Imagine that!</text></item><item><author>junon</author><text>Intuit is such an evil company. Now that I&amp;#x27;ve moved to Germany, I know what it feels like not to have to file every year (I still have to for the US but it&amp;#x27;s trivial now due to FIEC).&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s nobody hounding you here, no stress regarding your taxes unless you&amp;#x27;re filing for a return or have extenuating circumstances, and even then there&amp;#x27;s a government-provided online portal for direct communication with the Finanzamt (finance department).&lt;p&gt;Every American should be upset with Intuit.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>philjohn</author><text>And if you DO need to file a tax return (e.g. earning over 100k, certain types of income) you can (in most cases) do it for free on the HMRC website with a guided system.</text></comment>
<story><title>California tried to save the nation from tax filing, then Intuit stepped in</title><url>https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-10-21/california-tried-to-save-the-nation-from-the-misery-of-tax-filing-then-intuit-stepped-in</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>elthran</author><text>Not just Japan, also true for the UK with our Pay As You Earn system - you get assigned a tax code, and the appropriate amount is automatically deducted from your payslip. No need to file anything, and refunds&amp;#x2F;demands get generated automatically each year if you&amp;#x27;ve been changing jobs&amp;#x2F;not working&amp;#x2F;other odd circumstances meaning that the amount you paid doesn&amp;#x27;t match what you were expected to</text></item><item><author>gigatexal</author><text>HEY! Fellow US ex-pat here in Germany. I do use germantaxes.de which offers a hand-holding experience and all in English but the fact that there&amp;#x27;s a simple government provided solution is how it should be.&lt;p&gt;All this hate towards FB and others but we really should be reigning in the likes of Intuit because filing taxes should not cost anything for simple W-2&amp;#x27;s.&lt;p&gt;I recall reading that in Japan if you have just wage income it&amp;#x27;s more or less automatic. Imagine that!</text></item><item><author>junon</author><text>Intuit is such an evil company. Now that I&amp;#x27;ve moved to Germany, I know what it feels like not to have to file every year (I still have to for the US but it&amp;#x27;s trivial now due to FIEC).&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s nobody hounding you here, no stress regarding your taxes unless you&amp;#x27;re filing for a return or have extenuating circumstances, and even then there&amp;#x27;s a government-provided online portal for direct communication with the Finanzamt (finance department).&lt;p&gt;Every American should be upset with Intuit.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>throwaway898989</author><text>The &amp;quot;Pay-As-You-Earn&amp;quot; system was introduced in Australia and the UK during WW2 lol. The US has the same system its just been implemented extremely poorly</text></comment>