<story><title>A shot to prevent Lyme disease  could be on its way</title><url>https://www.outsideonline.com/health/wellness/lyme-disease-prevention-antibody-shot/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sonicggg</author><text>How do you manage to get it so often? I live in an area that is endemic to Lyme, but it&amp;#x27;s something that can easily be avoided (much easier than Covid). But I do see reckless behaviour all the time as well, so maybe it is not that surprising.</text></item><item><author>abakker</author><text>I grew up in CT. Had it 4 times, only got the bullseye once.  It is no joke, and as you get older it seems to suck more and more. Last time I had numbness in my face as the only symptom, but...thrice bitten, fully paranoid, and I was treated pretty fast.&lt;p&gt;One thing which is important with a vaccine is that when I was a kid (early 90s) the rate of ticks carrying lyme was in the 10% range or less, while now it is &amp;gt;50%. A vaccine is critical.</text></item><item><author>tdeck</author><text>I had Lyme twice as a kid too (in suburban Pennsylvania). It&amp;#x27;s not fun and it&amp;#x27;s a bit crazy that you can get it more than once. People are usually shocked when I tell them. I knew someone who was temporarily paralyzed on one side because of Lyme that they diagnosed late - it&amp;#x27;s scary.</text></item><item><author>pwenzel</author><text>I live in Minnesota and am being treated for Lyme disease for the second time in 15 months. It&amp;#x27;s no joke. The first time I got Lyme, it came with a painful shingles co-infection on top of the usual symptoms.&lt;p&gt;Now the second time, I am again worried about getting sick with something else while in an immunocompromised state. The fatigue, fever, and back pain that came along this second time was worse than the first. I needed a nap after walking up the stairs.&lt;p&gt;So, I am curious how bad and prolonged the side effects were in these 59 adverse events. If only temporary, I&amp;#x27;d consider it worth it over getting the actual disease.&lt;p&gt;The article also asks, &amp;quot;Why vaccinate against something that can be cured with antibiotics?&amp;quot; Undiagnosed Lyme becomes harder to treat the longer you wait, and the dose of antibiotics longer and more intense.&lt;p&gt;(PS: I am so very thankful for doxycycline.)</text></item><item><author>wildmanx</author><text>What shocks me most with this story is that there &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a vaccine (Lymerix), and it&amp;#x27;s pretty effective (76-92 percent after three injections) but apparently some anti-vax propaganda and a class-action lawsuit essentially removed it from the market. Based on a very rare side effect. Wtf? How can that be? Just tell people the risks of side effects, and if they are ok with that risk then the manufacturer is off the hook.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d totally take that shot. 59 cases out of 1.4 million is nothing, and even for those it&amp;#x27;s unclear how they actually were related to the shot.&lt;p&gt;Sadly, this indicates that the new shot could suffer the same fate. Give it to a million people, some will &lt;i&gt;for sure&lt;/i&gt; have some issue, anti-vaxers come with conspiracy theories and convince a few to a class action, and there we go, another few decades without a shot. Gotta be fast this time before it&amp;#x27;s too late again.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>piva00</author><text>I live in Sweden, I know several people who got Borrelia infections including my girlfriend, and hers developed into Lyme once. Most caught it and treated it early but some just had a fever and only discovered it was Lyme after months.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s insidious, if you spend time in nature you are exposing yourself to it. The ticks will be on tall grass, falling from trees, crawling from the ground. How can that be avoided?&lt;p&gt;During summer we have to check ourselves for ticks every single night, my girlfriend lives in a house inside a wooded area, I have a big garden on my house where deers are commonly spotted (this past month I&amp;#x27;ve been visited by one every single day).&lt;p&gt;No, it&amp;#x27;s not easy to be avoided if you leave the house, just laying on my lawn or garden grass is enough to get me paranoid about it. My housemates have already found 3 ticks stuck to them.&lt;p&gt;Please, if you know an easy way to avoid all of this I&amp;#x27;d love to hear it but so far I only know to be cautious and vigilant.</text></comment>
<story><title>A shot to prevent Lyme disease  could be on its way</title><url>https://www.outsideonline.com/health/wellness/lyme-disease-prevention-antibody-shot/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sonicggg</author><text>How do you manage to get it so often? I live in an area that is endemic to Lyme, but it&amp;#x27;s something that can easily be avoided (much easier than Covid). But I do see reckless behaviour all the time as well, so maybe it is not that surprising.</text></item><item><author>abakker</author><text>I grew up in CT. Had it 4 times, only got the bullseye once.  It is no joke, and as you get older it seems to suck more and more. Last time I had numbness in my face as the only symptom, but...thrice bitten, fully paranoid, and I was treated pretty fast.&lt;p&gt;One thing which is important with a vaccine is that when I was a kid (early 90s) the rate of ticks carrying lyme was in the 10% range or less, while now it is &amp;gt;50%. A vaccine is critical.</text></item><item><author>tdeck</author><text>I had Lyme twice as a kid too (in suburban Pennsylvania). It&amp;#x27;s not fun and it&amp;#x27;s a bit crazy that you can get it more than once. People are usually shocked when I tell them. I knew someone who was temporarily paralyzed on one side because of Lyme that they diagnosed late - it&amp;#x27;s scary.</text></item><item><author>pwenzel</author><text>I live in Minnesota and am being treated for Lyme disease for the second time in 15 months. It&amp;#x27;s no joke. The first time I got Lyme, it came with a painful shingles co-infection on top of the usual symptoms.&lt;p&gt;Now the second time, I am again worried about getting sick with something else while in an immunocompromised state. The fatigue, fever, and back pain that came along this second time was worse than the first. I needed a nap after walking up the stairs.&lt;p&gt;So, I am curious how bad and prolonged the side effects were in these 59 adverse events. If only temporary, I&amp;#x27;d consider it worth it over getting the actual disease.&lt;p&gt;The article also asks, &amp;quot;Why vaccinate against something that can be cured with antibiotics?&amp;quot; Undiagnosed Lyme becomes harder to treat the longer you wait, and the dose of antibiotics longer and more intense.&lt;p&gt;(PS: I am so very thankful for doxycycline.)</text></item><item><author>wildmanx</author><text>What shocks me most with this story is that there &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a vaccine (Lymerix), and it&amp;#x27;s pretty effective (76-92 percent after three injections) but apparently some anti-vax propaganda and a class-action lawsuit essentially removed it from the market. Based on a very rare side effect. Wtf? How can that be? Just tell people the risks of side effects, and if they are ok with that risk then the manufacturer is off the hook.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d totally take that shot. 59 cases out of 1.4 million is nothing, and even for those it&amp;#x27;s unclear how they actually were related to the shot.&lt;p&gt;Sadly, this indicates that the new shot could suffer the same fate. Give it to a million people, some will &lt;i&gt;for sure&lt;/i&gt; have some issue, anti-vaxers come with conspiracy theories and convince a few to a class action, and there we go, another few decades without a shot. Gotta be fast this time before it&amp;#x27;s too late again.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>all_usernames</author><text>As someone with a dog, I can say it is not easy to avoid ticks. Even with canine medication they pick one or two up every time we go for a hike, ON the trail.</text></comment>