<story><title>FBI: Stolen PII and deepfakes used to apply for remote tech jobs</title><url>https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fbi-stolen-pii-and-deepfakes-used-to-apply-for-remote-tech-jobs/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gsk22</author><text>&amp;gt; So yes, overemployed remote workers really exist, but at least in her case it was largely due to incompetent management.&lt;p&gt;I mean, incompetent management may have allowed the situation to persist. But your wife &amp;quot;working&amp;quot; 2.5 jobs for (presumably) the expected hours of just one of those jobs can&amp;#x27;t be blamed on management. She chose to accept all 3 of those positions with the knowledge that she wouldn&amp;#x27;t meet the conditions of employ.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not a &amp;quot;send &amp;#x27;em to jail!&amp;quot; type, and I have little sympathy for large corporations, but let&amp;#x27;s not pretend it&amp;#x27;s anything less than time theft.</text></item><item><author>telchior</author><text>Anecdotal, but my wife was doing 2.5 remote jobs simultaneously for a while, and apparently performing above expectation in all of them. However -- meetings were her major complaint, and she eventually burned out and quit the two full time jobs due to excessive and (according to her) pointless meetings.&lt;p&gt;One of the companies asked her to stay on as a consultant. They ended up hiring someone full time... who spent all their time in meetings, while my wife did the actual work. For significantly less pay, of course.&lt;p&gt;So yes, overemployed remote workers really exist, but at least in her case it was largely due to incompetent management.</text></item><item><author>spudlyo</author><text>I was surprised that this was a real thing when I stumbled upon the r&amp;#x2F;overemployed subreddit. Not sure how many of the folks who self-report their success in doing this are LARPers, but it&amp;#x27;s remarkable that anyone gets away with this.&lt;p&gt;I have a hard enough time attending all the meetings and completing my work in my actual job, I couldn&amp;#x27;t imagine taking on another and balancing the two somehow.</text></item><item><author>hijohnnylin</author><text>MANAGER: “hey uh, my friend at a different company said you applied for a job there this week?”&lt;p&gt;EMPLOYEE: “uhhhhhh…. that was… uhhh… a deepfake who also stole my information?”&lt;p&gt;MANAGER: “oh okay. yeah of course you would never try to double&amp;#x2F;triple your salary by taking multiple remote tech jobs with zero oversight. my friend said it seemed so real haha. deepfake are so good now. im gonna report this to the FBI, people need to know.”&lt;p&gt;EMPLOYEE: “yea haha amazing. anyway i gotta get back to not-my-other-job”</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wpietri</author><text>What makes it &amp;quot;time theft&amp;quot;, whatever that means?&lt;p&gt;US employers have worked very hard to make many of their workers &amp;quot;exempt&amp;quot; [1] such that they don&amp;#x27;t have to pay for overtime and can make people work egregious hours without getting in legal trouble.&lt;p&gt;If that&amp;#x27;s not &amp;quot;time theft&amp;quot;, then I don&amp;#x27;t see why an exempt worker who can do the work of two people shouldn&amp;#x27;t get paid for doing the work of two people. It would be different if they were hourly workers and they were double-billing for the same hour, of course. But I don&amp;#x27;t think that&amp;#x27;s what&amp;#x27;s happening here.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.investopedia.com&amp;#x2F;terms&amp;#x2F;e&amp;#x2F;exempt-employee.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.investopedia.com&amp;#x2F;terms&amp;#x2F;e&amp;#x2F;exempt-employee.asp&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>FBI: Stolen PII and deepfakes used to apply for remote tech jobs</title><url>https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fbi-stolen-pii-and-deepfakes-used-to-apply-for-remote-tech-jobs/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gsk22</author><text>&amp;gt; So yes, overemployed remote workers really exist, but at least in her case it was largely due to incompetent management.&lt;p&gt;I mean, incompetent management may have allowed the situation to persist. But your wife &amp;quot;working&amp;quot; 2.5 jobs for (presumably) the expected hours of just one of those jobs can&amp;#x27;t be blamed on management. She chose to accept all 3 of those positions with the knowledge that she wouldn&amp;#x27;t meet the conditions of employ.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m not a &amp;quot;send &amp;#x27;em to jail!&amp;quot; type, and I have little sympathy for large corporations, but let&amp;#x27;s not pretend it&amp;#x27;s anything less than time theft.</text></item><item><author>telchior</author><text>Anecdotal, but my wife was doing 2.5 remote jobs simultaneously for a while, and apparently performing above expectation in all of them. However -- meetings were her major complaint, and she eventually burned out and quit the two full time jobs due to excessive and (according to her) pointless meetings.&lt;p&gt;One of the companies asked her to stay on as a consultant. They ended up hiring someone full time... who spent all their time in meetings, while my wife did the actual work. For significantly less pay, of course.&lt;p&gt;So yes, overemployed remote workers really exist, but at least in her case it was largely due to incompetent management.</text></item><item><author>spudlyo</author><text>I was surprised that this was a real thing when I stumbled upon the r&amp;#x2F;overemployed subreddit. Not sure how many of the folks who self-report their success in doing this are LARPers, but it&amp;#x27;s remarkable that anyone gets away with this.&lt;p&gt;I have a hard enough time attending all the meetings and completing my work in my actual job, I couldn&amp;#x27;t imagine taking on another and balancing the two somehow.</text></item><item><author>hijohnnylin</author><text>MANAGER: “hey uh, my friend at a different company said you applied for a job there this week?”&lt;p&gt;EMPLOYEE: “uhhhhhh…. that was… uhhh… a deepfake who also stole my information?”&lt;p&gt;MANAGER: “oh okay. yeah of course you would never try to double&amp;#x2F;triple your salary by taking multiple remote tech jobs with zero oversight. my friend said it seemed so real haha. deepfake are so good now. im gonna report this to the FBI, people need to know.”&lt;p&gt;EMPLOYEE: “yea haha amazing. anyway i gotta get back to not-my-other-job”</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>anikan_vader</author><text>&amp;gt;&amp;gt; time theft&lt;p&gt;But her time is not their property, and so there is nothing illegal about her doing with it as she pleases. You can’t steal something that is already yours.</text></comment>