<story><title>Facebook threatens to make iOS users pay. Please do it, Mr. Zuckerberg</title><url>https://www.zdnet.com/article/facebook-threatens-to-make-ios-users-pay-please-do-it-mr-zuckerberg/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>intergalplan</author><text>&amp;quot;Social&amp;quot; should be an Internet protocol. The only reason it&amp;#x27;s not is that we basically stopped making protocols (well, ones that gain any meaningful traction, anyway—I&amp;#x27;m aware there are some lightly-used efforts at social protocols) because all the companies in a position to push them to a meaningful number of users are better served by making interoperability difficult. The &amp;quot;free&amp;quot; services spyvertising economy, where captive non-paying user count &amp;amp; eyeball time is what matters, is why things are this way.</text></item><item><author>bonestamp2</author><text>I would actually consider using Facebook if I could pay for it and not be tracked or datamined. There is a let a legit use case for sharing photos, personal stories, and discussing news and information with a curated list of your friends and family.</text></item><item><author>Maarten88</author><text>&amp;gt; How much more honest a relationship it might be if Facebook charged for its wares.&lt;p&gt;The author seems to think that Facebook would suddenly stop doing all the other things it does to make money, once a user would pay. Of course they would not.&lt;p&gt;On the contrary: Facebook would see those paying users as extra valuable for tracking, keep harassing and confusing them until they click the wrong button once, and then sell that &amp;quot;premium&amp;quot; user data for more.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>prepend</author><text>At it’s simplest, the protocol for social media is RSS with feeds for each of your contacts.&lt;p&gt;And I guess this is sort of how fediverse is working.&lt;p&gt;Protocols don’t make much money compared to walled gardens selling max data possible.</text></comment>
<story><title>Facebook threatens to make iOS users pay. Please do it, Mr. Zuckerberg</title><url>https://www.zdnet.com/article/facebook-threatens-to-make-ios-users-pay-please-do-it-mr-zuckerberg/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>intergalplan</author><text>&amp;quot;Social&amp;quot; should be an Internet protocol. The only reason it&amp;#x27;s not is that we basically stopped making protocols (well, ones that gain any meaningful traction, anyway—I&amp;#x27;m aware there are some lightly-used efforts at social protocols) because all the companies in a position to push them to a meaningful number of users are better served by making interoperability difficult. The &amp;quot;free&amp;quot; services spyvertising economy, where captive non-paying user count &amp;amp; eyeball time is what matters, is why things are this way.</text></item><item><author>bonestamp2</author><text>I would actually consider using Facebook if I could pay for it and not be tracked or datamined. There is a let a legit use case for sharing photos, personal stories, and discussing news and information with a curated list of your friends and family.</text></item><item><author>Maarten88</author><text>&amp;gt; How much more honest a relationship it might be if Facebook charged for its wares.&lt;p&gt;The author seems to think that Facebook would suddenly stop doing all the other things it does to make money, once a user would pay. Of course they would not.&lt;p&gt;On the contrary: Facebook would see those paying users as extra valuable for tracking, keep harassing and confusing them until they click the wrong button once, and then sell that &amp;quot;premium&amp;quot; user data for more.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>karmelapple</author><text>When you say a protocol, do you mean in the same way http is a protocol? Like a new way to communicate that web browsers would start adopting?&lt;p&gt;Because in my opinion the browsers would need to make it as easy to use as any other website or phone app if it were ever to gain traction.</text></comment>