<story><title>Framework Laptop (2022) review: the repairability dream</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/23270191/framework-laptop-12th-gen-2022-review</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>oldandboring</author><text>As a Linux laptop user, I used Thinkpads for years. The pinnacle was the T460s&amp;#x2F;T490s models from around 2016, because they:&lt;p&gt;- Ran Linux without much tinkering or major compromises&lt;p&gt;- small (14&amp;quot;)&lt;p&gt;- affordable (around $1300 for my config)&lt;p&gt;- lightweight and thin&lt;p&gt;- powerful (I had a Core i5)&lt;p&gt;- upgrade-able (I had 48gb of RAM)&lt;p&gt;They started going downhill after that, primarily in that I could no longer find a Thinkpad model that was at the intersection of upgrade-able and Linux compatibility.&lt;p&gt;Around 2021 I started looking for an alternative. Looked at made-for-Linux laptops like System76 and the various Linux-certified Dells. Couldn&amp;#x27;t find anything that checked all my boxes and the Dells were particularly crippled: 8GB of soldered on RAM? Only certified to work if you use their custom hacked Ubuntu image? No thanks.&lt;p&gt;The Framework (gen11, DIY edition) was exactly what I was looking for. My configuration at the time was $1032 and I&amp;#x27;ve been running Manjaro Linux on it continuously for the past year on it with zero problems. It&amp;#x27;s just good solid generic hardware at a fair price. It&amp;#x27;s cheap enough that I don&amp;#x27;t worry about it getting lost or stolen. It&amp;#x27;s repairable so I don&amp;#x27;t worry about something physically breaking.&lt;p&gt;I have since bought another one for an employee and over the next few years I plan on deploying them to my whole team.&lt;p&gt;Basically I should be a testimonial on their website.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tuetuopay</author><text>I have a T14s Gen 1 for work, and it runs flawlessly Linux without major tinkering using Arch. Everything from sleep, display output, fingerprint reader, wifi, bluetooth, trackpad works out of the box and pretty darn well.&lt;p&gt;And I&amp;#x27;m rocking a Dell XPS 9570 for personal use, still on arch, no real issue there neither. Well except the Nvidia gpu using prime that needed a truckload of work to get to work, but that&amp;#x27;s not Dell&amp;#x27;s fault.&lt;p&gt;So yeah, in my experience, a quick google search for systemic problems (bios related) of the laptop, its wifi chip support, etc, is enough to tell whether a laptop is fit for linux.</text></comment>
<story><title>Framework Laptop (2022) review: the repairability dream</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/23270191/framework-laptop-12th-gen-2022-review</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>oldandboring</author><text>As a Linux laptop user, I used Thinkpads for years. The pinnacle was the T460s&amp;#x2F;T490s models from around 2016, because they:&lt;p&gt;- Ran Linux without much tinkering or major compromises&lt;p&gt;- small (14&amp;quot;)&lt;p&gt;- affordable (around $1300 for my config)&lt;p&gt;- lightweight and thin&lt;p&gt;- powerful (I had a Core i5)&lt;p&gt;- upgrade-able (I had 48gb of RAM)&lt;p&gt;They started going downhill after that, primarily in that I could no longer find a Thinkpad model that was at the intersection of upgrade-able and Linux compatibility.&lt;p&gt;Around 2021 I started looking for an alternative. Looked at made-for-Linux laptops like System76 and the various Linux-certified Dells. Couldn&amp;#x27;t find anything that checked all my boxes and the Dells were particularly crippled: 8GB of soldered on RAM? Only certified to work if you use their custom hacked Ubuntu image? No thanks.&lt;p&gt;The Framework (gen11, DIY edition) was exactly what I was looking for. My configuration at the time was $1032 and I&amp;#x27;ve been running Manjaro Linux on it continuously for the past year on it with zero problems. It&amp;#x27;s just good solid generic hardware at a fair price. It&amp;#x27;s cheap enough that I don&amp;#x27;t worry about it getting lost or stolen. It&amp;#x27;s repairable so I don&amp;#x27;t worry about something physically breaking.&lt;p&gt;I have since bought another one for an employee and over the next few years I plan on deploying them to my whole team.&lt;p&gt;Basically I should be a testimonial on their website.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>sammorrowdrums</author><text>The Dell XPS Developer Edition ones have always worked well for me with Linux, I never used the stock Ubuntu, and the hardware works really well and they actually do deliver firmware updates through fwupd for many years - I won’t defend the landfill future of the hardware and lack of user upgrade&amp;#x2F; replacement, but I’ve had great success with Elementary OS and Arch on them.&lt;p&gt;Also I have had to use a Mac more recently for work, and I miss my XPS running well with Docker, and I find it hilarious that with MacBooks you need the new M processor models to be able to run Docker workloads without the fans blasting!&lt;p&gt;I’d love to try a Framework too though.</text></comment>