<story><title>Cloudflare Termination Video: A Master Class in How Not to Terminate Someone</title><url>https://www.inc.com/suzanne-lucas/viral-cloudflare-termination-video-masterclass-how-not-terminate.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>barbazoo</author><text>&amp;gt; as that can tank a person&amp;#x27;s entire career trajectory&lt;p&gt;Plus the act of career suicide by publishing company meeting recordings on social media.</text></item><item><author>JustLurking2022</author><text>Saw a variation of this during the recent bout of tech layoffs. Shortly before end of year eval time, a senior executive sent out emails questioning whether it was even possible for new hires to have made sufficient impact and suggesting they should consequently be given a poor rating as the default.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s amazing that leaders at these companies which, for years, acted as though they had all the answers and were more successful than other industries because they worked smarter. And then, at the first sign of headwinds, they want no accountability for their decisions and can&amp;#x27;t figure out a principles as simple as being honest and treating people fairly.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m honestly curious how CloudFlare will handle reference checks for these people, given they are calling these performance based dismissals. Will they say they are &amp;quot;not eligible for rehire&amp;quot; (the HR way of saying they were terminated for cause)? If so, I hope they get sued, as that can tank a person&amp;#x27;s entire career trajectory.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>abadpoli</author><text>I think it’s interesting how subjective this can apparently be. What I saw in the video was someone standing up for themselves and fighting against perceived wrongdoing in an articulate way. That’s exactly the type of person I want on my team. I’d hire them in a heartbeat.&lt;p&gt;Recording and posting company videos is bad in the general sense, but not in this case. There’s nothing sensitive or confidential in the video that was posted. The fact that she posted this specific video doesn’t make me assume that she would go and post other videos that do have confidential information, and if a company is embarrassed by their actions in this situation, that says more about the company than it does this employee.&lt;p&gt;I doubt this is career suicide. It might even do the opposite by getting this person’s name and situation out there.</text></comment>
<story><title>Cloudflare Termination Video: A Master Class in How Not to Terminate Someone</title><url>https://www.inc.com/suzanne-lucas/viral-cloudflare-termination-video-masterclass-how-not-terminate.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>barbazoo</author><text>&amp;gt; as that can tank a person&amp;#x27;s entire career trajectory&lt;p&gt;Plus the act of career suicide by publishing company meeting recordings on social media.</text></item><item><author>JustLurking2022</author><text>Saw a variation of this during the recent bout of tech layoffs. Shortly before end of year eval time, a senior executive sent out emails questioning whether it was even possible for new hires to have made sufficient impact and suggesting they should consequently be given a poor rating as the default.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s amazing that leaders at these companies which, for years, acted as though they had all the answers and were more successful than other industries because they worked smarter. And then, at the first sign of headwinds, they want no accountability for their decisions and can&amp;#x27;t figure out a principles as simple as being honest and treating people fairly.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m honestly curious how CloudFlare will handle reference checks for these people, given they are calling these performance based dismissals. Will they say they are &amp;quot;not eligible for rehire&amp;quot; (the HR way of saying they were terminated for cause)? If so, I hope they get sued, as that can tank a person&amp;#x27;s entire career trajectory.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>stateofinquiry</author><text>I think two things can be true at the same time in this situation:&lt;p&gt;1) The employee made a poor choice posting meeting recording publicly.
2) The company did an appallingly poor job terminating her.&lt;p&gt;Certainly this video makes me believe that cloudflare is likely a poorly managed company that treats its employees badly. As for Ms. Pietsch, she may be a low performing employee who made a bad choice to post this video.</text></comment>