<story><title>Data shows that the EU&apos;s CSAM scanning will not have the intended effect</title><url>https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/eu-csam-scanning/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>numerik_meister</author><text>You got it right. Lots of people here think this is some sort of big conspiracy by lizards to build a surveillance state. In truth, it is simply software companies that have surveillance products to sell lobbying the government.&lt;p&gt;Source: at my German uni there are many recruitment drives from these entities</text></item><item><author>2pEXgD0fZ5cF</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m going to slightly modify and repeat comment of mine I wrote here on another post for the same topic:&lt;p&gt;According to the DKSB (Deutscher Kinderschutzbund) [1], encryption barely plays a role when it comes to the distribution of CSAM [2]. In short: DKSB is not in favour of this. You know, the people that probably know what they are talking about when it comes to the protection of children, unlike the politicians who are trying to force this through.&lt;p&gt;The politicians which only really talked to salesmen of surveillance software [3] about this and never really consulted any independent people with expertise in tech, privacy or the protection of children [4].&lt;p&gt;Because this was never, at any moment, about protecting children.&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.dksb.de&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;home&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.dksb.de&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;home&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.eu-info.de&amp;#x2F;dpa-europaticker&amp;#x2F;316232.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.eu-info.de&amp;#x2F;dpa-europaticker&amp;#x2F;316232.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;netzpolitik.org&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;dude-wheres-my-privacy-how-a-hollywood-star-lobbies-the-eu-for-more-surveillance&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;netzpolitik.org&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;dude-wheres-my-privacy-how-a-ho...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[4]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;edri.org&amp;#x2F;our-work&amp;#x2F;private-and-secure-communications-put-at-risk-by-european-commissions-latest-proposal&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;edri.org&amp;#x2F;our-work&amp;#x2F;private-and-secure-communications-...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>windexh8er</author><text>You&amp;#x27;re probably right that this is mostly software companies looking for revenue in the form of a forced purchase of a product through legislation.&lt;p&gt;But, keep in mind: the government is actively selling out its constituents and creating an environment that enables a surveillance state, even when that may not be the original goal. Slippery slope and all, first it&amp;#x27;s child pornography - but where does it stop? It won&amp;#x27;t, because that data set is rich to mine - rich to sell into. We can make up entire product lines that can be sold, via FUD, into our ignorant government friends and force people to buy it even when it&amp;#x27;s been shown to provide little to no value to the masses.&lt;p&gt;So, no - not a lizard conspiracy. More like &amp;quot;Dumb and Dumber: Government Edition&amp;quot;.</text></comment>
<story><title>Data shows that the EU&apos;s CSAM scanning will not have the intended effect</title><url>https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/eu-csam-scanning/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>numerik_meister</author><text>You got it right. Lots of people here think this is some sort of big conspiracy by lizards to build a surveillance state. In truth, it is simply software companies that have surveillance products to sell lobbying the government.&lt;p&gt;Source: at my German uni there are many recruitment drives from these entities</text></item><item><author>2pEXgD0fZ5cF</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m going to slightly modify and repeat comment of mine I wrote here on another post for the same topic:&lt;p&gt;According to the DKSB (Deutscher Kinderschutzbund) [1], encryption barely plays a role when it comes to the distribution of CSAM [2]. In short: DKSB is not in favour of this. You know, the people that probably know what they are talking about when it comes to the protection of children, unlike the politicians who are trying to force this through.&lt;p&gt;The politicians which only really talked to salesmen of surveillance software [3] about this and never really consulted any independent people with expertise in tech, privacy or the protection of children [4].&lt;p&gt;Because this was never, at any moment, about protecting children.&lt;p&gt;[1]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.dksb.de&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;home&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.dksb.de&amp;#x2F;en&amp;#x2F;home&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[2]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.eu-info.de&amp;#x2F;dpa-europaticker&amp;#x2F;316232.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.eu-info.de&amp;#x2F;dpa-europaticker&amp;#x2F;316232.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[3]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;netzpolitik.org&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;dude-wheres-my-privacy-how-a-hollywood-star-lobbies-the-eu-for-more-surveillance&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;netzpolitik.org&amp;#x2F;2022&amp;#x2F;dude-wheres-my-privacy-how-a-ho...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;[4]: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;edri.org&amp;#x2F;our-work&amp;#x2F;private-and-secure-communications-put-at-risk-by-european-commissions-latest-proposal&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;edri.org&amp;#x2F;our-work&amp;#x2F;private-and-secure-communications-...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>taylorius</author><text>So, yes she&amp;#x27;s misrepresenting things to her electorate, in order to bring in a load of surveillance. But please don&amp;#x27;t think she wants to spy on everyone, totalitarian style - no, no she&amp;#x27;s just being bribed (sorry, I meant &amp;quot;lobbied&amp;quot;).&lt;p&gt;Sleep tight, eu.</text></comment>