<story><title>Winter &amp; Cold Weather EV Range Loss in 7,000 Cars</title><url>https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/winter-ev-range-loss</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cmrdporcupine</author><text>Your car doesn&amp;#x27;t feel wind chill.&lt;p&gt;I drive an EV in Canadian winter all the time. Not at all an issue. Range loss is a thing but it&amp;#x27;s not like the car stops working. In fact it starts more reliably and heats up more quickly for me. And I start mine remotely while it&amp;#x27;s still plugged in, so the cabin is warm and ready to go without wasting battery energy. And can do this safely in the garage without concerns of carbon monoxide poisoning or stinking up the garage.&lt;p&gt;Aside: I wish people in this country would stop reporting wind chill temps as if they&amp;#x27;re some sort of accurate measure of anything. They&amp;#x27;re only useful as a relatively subjective measure for people who aren&amp;#x27;t dressed properly.</text></item><item><author>barbariangrunge</author><text>As I’m sitting here reading this, it is -35 C after windchill. The reason we didn’t get an ev is because we are getting the sense that the companies that make them do not take Canadaian weather into account&lt;p&gt;It looks like some of those manufacturers only lose 3% of their range in weather like this, but that’s estimated. The verified numbers are far lower?</text></item><item><author>crazygringo</author><text>I find it strange that the charts only go down to 20°F, when for example at the moment I write this comment, it&amp;#x27;s -5°F (-21°C) in Bismarck, North Dakota.&lt;p&gt;And sub-zero Fahrenheit temperatures are pretty common in the winter across the Northeast, especially at night. &amp;quot;Normal&amp;quot; driving conditions extend way below just 20°F.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>crazygringo</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;They&amp;#x27;re only useful as a relatively subjective measure for people who aren&amp;#x27;t dressed properly.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s a bizarre thing to say when to dress properly, you need to know the wind chill.&lt;p&gt;If it&amp;#x27;s 25°F out no wind, vs. 25°F out but it&amp;#x27;s 5°F with wind chill, that&amp;#x27;s an entire additional layer I need to put on during my morning walk.&lt;p&gt;Wind chill is a &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; accurate measure for judging what to wear. How do you think it&amp;#x27;s not accurate? It&amp;#x27;s literally an equation that accounts for the fact that wind makes you colder. You can scientifically, objectively measure the faster cooling effect of wind on an object. (Granted there are marginal differences in its effect on a human body depending on one&amp;#x27;s height and weight, but that still doesn&amp;#x27;t make it &lt;i&gt;subjective&lt;/i&gt;.)</text></comment>
<story><title>Winter &amp; Cold Weather EV Range Loss in 7,000 Cars</title><url>https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/winter-ev-range-loss</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cmrdporcupine</author><text>Your car doesn&amp;#x27;t feel wind chill.&lt;p&gt;I drive an EV in Canadian winter all the time. Not at all an issue. Range loss is a thing but it&amp;#x27;s not like the car stops working. In fact it starts more reliably and heats up more quickly for me. And I start mine remotely while it&amp;#x27;s still plugged in, so the cabin is warm and ready to go without wasting battery energy. And can do this safely in the garage without concerns of carbon monoxide poisoning or stinking up the garage.&lt;p&gt;Aside: I wish people in this country would stop reporting wind chill temps as if they&amp;#x27;re some sort of accurate measure of anything. They&amp;#x27;re only useful as a relatively subjective measure for people who aren&amp;#x27;t dressed properly.</text></item><item><author>barbariangrunge</author><text>As I’m sitting here reading this, it is -35 C after windchill. The reason we didn’t get an ev is because we are getting the sense that the companies that make them do not take Canadaian weather into account&lt;p&gt;It looks like some of those manufacturers only lose 3% of their range in weather like this, but that’s estimated. The verified numbers are far lower?</text></item><item><author>crazygringo</author><text>I find it strange that the charts only go down to 20°F, when for example at the moment I write this comment, it&amp;#x27;s -5°F (-21°C) in Bismarck, North Dakota.&lt;p&gt;And sub-zero Fahrenheit temperatures are pretty common in the winter across the Northeast, especially at night. &amp;quot;Normal&amp;quot; driving conditions extend way below just 20°F.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wolfram74</author><text>Might be more accurate to describe it as cars generate more windchill from driving than the weather station is likely to experience from wind?</text></comment>