<story><title>Apple Addresses Privacy Concerns Surrounding App Authentication in macOS</title><url>https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/15/apple-privacy-macos-app-authenticaion/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jb1991</author><text>&amp;gt; The bitterness that flies around whenever Apple comes up around here is almost inexplicable.&lt;p&gt;or more specifically, not so much inexplicable (as actually I think it is quite predictable), but rather it is just exhausting.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m never going to buy a Windows computer. Period. I&amp;#x27;m probably never going to switch to Linux either. I don&amp;#x27;t go around shouting my reasons why I won&amp;#x27;t, and I think most Apple users behave this way.&lt;p&gt;But for a certain segment of the non-Apple crowd, yelling consistently about their opinions is an odd recurrence.</text></item><item><author>skibble</author><text>Oh please. Just because there’s someone shouting this in every such thread doesn’t make it automatically true. You can set up a Mac without ever connecting it to the internet and it will work perfectly.&lt;p&gt;These are defensive measures to protect the general user base from malware. Yes, using HTTP in 2020 is worthy of scrutiny, but not using every such incident as a new piece of armour for this tedious narrative. Apple’s entire platform offering is based around curation. If you disagree with it, there are many other platforms out there you can elect to use. The bitterness that flies around whenever Apple comes up around here is almost inexplicable.</text></item><item><author>devwastaken</author><text>The problem should have never existed. Phoning home in this manner should never have existed. This problem is not a bug, it&amp;#x27;s a fundamental problem with the culture of software development apple curates. They don&amp;#x27;t believe you should own your computer, that apple always knows better, and if you don&amp;#x27;t use it the way they force you to, it&amp;#x27;s unsupported behavior.&lt;p&gt;To them this is natural, they get away doing anything with the Iphone. Doing it to macos is the natural result of that precedent.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s a downvote brigade in this thread. The downvote button is not a &amp;quot;I disagree&amp;quot; button.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>AsyncAwait</author><text>&amp;gt; or more specifically, not so much inexplicable (as actually I think it is quite predictable), but rather it is just exhausting&lt;p&gt;Weird how I feel the same about all the pro-Apple comments in every Linux thread, specifically to the effect of:&lt;p&gt;&amp;#x27;Unlike Linux, macOS just works. When I was younger I used to play with Linux too, but now I do actually work I just need shit to work and macOS does that&amp;#x27;, followed by a bunch of outdated, showing knows nothing about what they&amp;#x27;re talking about shit about PulseAudio.&lt;p&gt;But when Apple completely and utterly screws up, to the point when you can&amp;#x27;t even launch non-Apple apps on a machine you paid thousands of dollars for, then people are all too sudden overreacting?&lt;p&gt;Funny how that works.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I&amp;#x27;m never going to buy a Windows computer. Period. I&amp;#x27;m probably never going to switch to Linux either.&lt;p&gt;Good. And most FLOSS people don&amp;#x27;t want you to either. What is my problem is when people have crazy high expectations of FLOSS maintainers, but a trillion dollar company screwing up is filled under the category of &amp;#x27;shit happens&amp;#x27; so to speak.&lt;p&gt;Especially considering Apple&amp;#x27;s a commercial entity that DOES NOT and WILL NOT care about you or what you think and does not need anyone&amp;#x27;s advocacy as they have a massive marketing budget of their own. Aside from that, there is a feeling in the FLOSS community that Apple&amp;#x27;s conducting a war on general purpose computing as we know it, which is not an unreasonable thing to be fearful of considering their influence.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I don&amp;#x27;t go around shouting my reasons why I won&amp;#x27;t,&lt;p&gt;I am glad to hear that, but there&amp;#x27;s an awful number of your fellow Applers who are doing exactly the opposite.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; But for a certain segment of the non-Apple crowd, yelling consistently about their opinions is an odd recurrence.&lt;p&gt;Right, which is totally not a thing for the Apple crowd, is that it?</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple Addresses Privacy Concerns Surrounding App Authentication in macOS</title><url>https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/15/apple-privacy-macos-app-authenticaion/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jb1991</author><text>&amp;gt; The bitterness that flies around whenever Apple comes up around here is almost inexplicable.&lt;p&gt;or more specifically, not so much inexplicable (as actually I think it is quite predictable), but rather it is just exhausting.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m never going to buy a Windows computer. Period. I&amp;#x27;m probably never going to switch to Linux either. I don&amp;#x27;t go around shouting my reasons why I won&amp;#x27;t, and I think most Apple users behave this way.&lt;p&gt;But for a certain segment of the non-Apple crowd, yelling consistently about their opinions is an odd recurrence.</text></item><item><author>skibble</author><text>Oh please. Just because there’s someone shouting this in every such thread doesn’t make it automatically true. You can set up a Mac without ever connecting it to the internet and it will work perfectly.&lt;p&gt;These are defensive measures to protect the general user base from malware. Yes, using HTTP in 2020 is worthy of scrutiny, but not using every such incident as a new piece of armour for this tedious narrative. Apple’s entire platform offering is based around curation. If you disagree with it, there are many other platforms out there you can elect to use. The bitterness that flies around whenever Apple comes up around here is almost inexplicable.</text></item><item><author>devwastaken</author><text>The problem should have never existed. Phoning home in this manner should never have existed. This problem is not a bug, it&amp;#x27;s a fundamental problem with the culture of software development apple curates. They don&amp;#x27;t believe you should own your computer, that apple always knows better, and if you don&amp;#x27;t use it the way they force you to, it&amp;#x27;s unsupported behavior.&lt;p&gt;To them this is natural, they get away doing anything with the Iphone. Doing it to macos is the natural result of that precedent.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s a downvote brigade in this thread. The downvote button is not a &amp;quot;I disagree&amp;quot; button.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>vagrantJin</author><text>Pardon my rather simplistic view.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m a windows user primarily and linux user by choice. To my dismay, at my workplace I have to use MacOS because everyone uses iMacs which belong to the company and have no choice in that regard. This means MacOs is tied directly and non-trivially to my livelihood. My complaint of apple and what I percieve as shenanigans by Apple are due to that very fact that it is tied to my livelihood. Ofcourse you can say &lt;i&gt;switch jobs because you dont like the brand the company uses&lt;/i&gt; and I will concede that as a somewhat valid point- but a reasonable person may look askance at the suggestion. We can agree it&amp;#x27;s a stupid reason to plunge myself into financial uncertainty. There is a non-zero chance that there are others in my position and who must exercise the right if not courtesy to complain.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; But for a certain segment of the non-Apple crowd, yelling consistently about their opinions is an odd recurrence.&lt;p&gt;There is a certain group which self identifies as &lt;i&gt;fanboys&lt;/i&gt; which is their right and that group is not comprised of Windows or * nix users. This segment of &lt;i&gt;fanboys&lt;/i&gt; I can assure is equally if not more vocal. Amusing if nothing else.</text></comment>