<story><title>DARPA Is Building a $10M, Open-Source, Secure Voting System</title><url>https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/yw84q7/darpa-is-building-a-dollar10-million-open-source-secure-voting-system</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>simongr3dal</author><text>I hate being outright dismissive but it sounds like an expensive html&amp;#x2F;pdf form with a printer attached.&lt;p&gt;I do agree that the paper trail is a great thing. I&amp;#x27;m not fundamentally against electronic voting, but I haven&amp;#x27;t heard of a system that can really compete with the simplicity and verifiability of the immutablility you get from paper ballots inside ballot boxes being watched over by interested parties on all sides.</text></item><item><author>nathan_long</author><text>&amp;gt; Kiniy said Galois will design two basic voting machine types. The first will be a ballot-marking device that uses a touch-screen for voters to make their selections. That system won’t tabulate votes. Instead it will print out a paper ballot marked with the voter’s choices, so voters can review them before depositing them into an optical-scan machine that tabulates the votes. Galois will bring this system to Def Con this year.&lt;p&gt;This sounds great: paper trail, no chance of &amp;quot;hanging chads&amp;quot; or bad handwriting, verifiable by the voter at the moment before scanning and hand-countable if necessary.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dragontamer</author><text>&amp;gt; I hate being outright dismissive but it sounds like an expensive html&amp;#x2F;pdf form with a printer attached.&lt;p&gt;And I like it. The simpler the design, the better. Sometimes it takes a billion dollars and a couple of smart researchers to invent the &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; solution to a problem.&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#x27;ve got butterfly ballots, confusing electronics-only machines, and a variety of bad standards as the basis of our current voting infrastructure. Telling everybody to use a damn PDF + printer would be a gross improvement.</text></comment>
<story><title>DARPA Is Building a $10M, Open-Source, Secure Voting System</title><url>https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/yw84q7/darpa-is-building-a-dollar10-million-open-source-secure-voting-system</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>simongr3dal</author><text>I hate being outright dismissive but it sounds like an expensive html&amp;#x2F;pdf form with a printer attached.&lt;p&gt;I do agree that the paper trail is a great thing. I&amp;#x27;m not fundamentally against electronic voting, but I haven&amp;#x27;t heard of a system that can really compete with the simplicity and verifiability of the immutablility you get from paper ballots inside ballot boxes being watched over by interested parties on all sides.</text></item><item><author>nathan_long</author><text>&amp;gt; Kiniy said Galois will design two basic voting machine types. The first will be a ballot-marking device that uses a touch-screen for voters to make their selections. That system won’t tabulate votes. Instead it will print out a paper ballot marked with the voter’s choices, so voters can review them before depositing them into an optical-scan machine that tabulates the votes. Galois will bring this system to Def Con this year.&lt;p&gt;This sounds great: paper trail, no chance of &amp;quot;hanging chads&amp;quot; or bad handwriting, verifiable by the voter at the moment before scanning and hand-countable if necessary.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>beat</author><text>The part I don&amp;#x27;t like is the printer. They&amp;#x27;re woefully unreliable devices. Having been an election judge, handling a bunch of flaky tech in polling places is the last thing the poll workers need. They have a lot to do already.&lt;p&gt;In MN, we use paper ballots with Scantron readers for excellent results. I&amp;#x27;m not sure what problem this new system is supposed to solve that the Scantron model doesn&amp;#x27;t.</text></comment>