<story><title>ImageSharp leaving the .NET Foundation due to licensing change</title><url>https://dotnetfoundation.org/blog/2022/10/20/imagesharpupdate</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bmitc</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t think your last comment addresses what they were getting at. If someone open sources something with a permissive license with all things pointing to keeping that license, and then switches it up once they get users, then that is a bit of a bait and switch. It is different than saying from the get-go &amp;quot;hey, we need money to develop this, so please pay&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;Is it really entitlement to be a little upset at having built large things on top of permissively licensed software only for that software to suddenly become locked behind a new license?</text></item><item><author>throwaway_au_1</author><text>&amp;gt;If you want to become a millionaire&lt;p&gt;Strawman&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;I even believe that criminal liability comes into play here&lt;p&gt;The gross entitlement of FOSS users is the primary reason I will never contribute in substance to open source software. In what world is a &amp;#x27;userbase in the millions&amp;#x27; not an indicator of the software&amp;#x27;s value, and how are the developers deserving of criminal liability for wanting to make money from it? What, they should perform highly-skilled software engineering for free while their efforts are the basis of profit generation for many others?</text></item><item><author>UltraViolence</author><text>People need to stop mucking around with abusing open-source and open-source licenses.&lt;p&gt;If you want to become a millionaire make your software product commercial. If you want it to be open-source, keep it that way forever and don&amp;#x27;t start complaining &amp;quot;Oh, I really want to be a millionaire but I&amp;#x27;m not because all these people are using my code for free! Now all you millions of people who are using my code should pay me from now on!&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I believe charging for software after you&amp;#x27;ve gained a user base in the millions is akin to a rug-pull scam. I even believe that criminal liability comes into play here.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a good thing the .NET Foundation expels all the projects that change their licensing to commercial.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>wokwokwok</author><text>Yep.&lt;p&gt;It’s true when companies do it with a “loss leader” to destroy the competition.&lt;p&gt;It’s true when an open source library swaps to proprietary license.&lt;p&gt;Who &lt;i&gt;wouldnt&lt;/i&gt; pick a good, free option for something?&lt;p&gt;…how do you tell the difference between a “real” open source project and a bait and switch?&lt;p&gt;Is this the future? Where all good things are gone and we have to skeptical of anyone giving away something for free?&lt;p&gt;Screw that.&lt;p&gt;If you’re selling something, then sell it.&lt;p&gt;If you’re giving something away, then make your intentions clear.&lt;p&gt;If you’re giving it away with the intent to destroy your competition, you’re being a dick.&lt;p&gt;If you change your mind and want to do something different, abandon your dishonestly earned network effects and start a new commercial project where the intent is clear from the start.&lt;p&gt;I wish the Six Labors folk the very best in any commercial endeavour they choose to undertake, but this sucks.</text></comment>
<story><title>ImageSharp leaving the .NET Foundation due to licensing change</title><url>https://dotnetfoundation.org/blog/2022/10/20/imagesharpupdate</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bmitc</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t think your last comment addresses what they were getting at. If someone open sources something with a permissive license with all things pointing to keeping that license, and then switches it up once they get users, then that is a bit of a bait and switch. It is different than saying from the get-go &amp;quot;hey, we need money to develop this, so please pay&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;Is it really entitlement to be a little upset at having built large things on top of permissively licensed software only for that software to suddenly become locked behind a new license?</text></item><item><author>throwaway_au_1</author><text>&amp;gt;If you want to become a millionaire&lt;p&gt;Strawman&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;I even believe that criminal liability comes into play here&lt;p&gt;The gross entitlement of FOSS users is the primary reason I will never contribute in substance to open source software. In what world is a &amp;#x27;userbase in the millions&amp;#x27; not an indicator of the software&amp;#x27;s value, and how are the developers deserving of criminal liability for wanting to make money from it? What, they should perform highly-skilled software engineering for free while their efforts are the basis of profit generation for many others?</text></item><item><author>UltraViolence</author><text>People need to stop mucking around with abusing open-source and open-source licenses.&lt;p&gt;If you want to become a millionaire make your software product commercial. If you want it to be open-source, keep it that way forever and don&amp;#x27;t start complaining &amp;quot;Oh, I really want to be a millionaire but I&amp;#x27;m not because all these people are using my code for free! Now all you millions of people who are using my code should pay me from now on!&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;I believe charging for software after you&amp;#x27;ve gained a user base in the millions is akin to a rug-pull scam. I even believe that criminal liability comes into play here.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a good thing the .NET Foundation expels all the projects that change their licensing to commercial.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>throwaway_au_1</author><text>Yes - I&amp;#x27;d say it&amp;#x27;s nearly the definition of entitlement. I can totally understand why it would be frustrating, but to assume the people producing this resource are immune from paying the rent and would be forever is ignorant. People should consider that they ever got it for free as a bonus. If migrating away from FOSS is too upsetting , frustrating or painful - don&amp;#x27;t build on tools with questionable sustainability models from the start, or DIY.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s also worth pointing out that it&amp;#x27;s only locked away for entities generating &amp;gt;= 1M&amp;#x2F;y USD revenue. I can&amp;#x27;t exactly feel sorry for them.</text></comment>