<story><title>New Particle Discovered at CERN</title><url>http://www.mediadesk.uzh.ch/articles/2012/uzh-forschende-entdecken-neues-teilchen-am-cern_en.html</url><text></text></story><parent_chain><item><author>muhfuhkuh</author><text>I know that the world is essentially flat and that we shouldn&apos;t be so jingoistic anymore, but does it trouble anyone besides me that CERN is under the Swiss Alps near Geneva instead of under the scorching sun in the New Mexico desert? Shouldn&apos;t the &quot;greatest Superpower in World History&quot; be the one crashing atoms together like NASCAR autos and seeing all the mess that comes out of it? Now that I think about it, maybe if we market it that way...&lt;p&gt;I fear that the only advocate we have left for a strong scientific America is Neil deGrasse Tyson.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>simonsarris</author><text>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;The United States planned one with a collision energy almost three times that of CERN.&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;...By 1993, the cost projection exceeded $12 billion. Congress officially canceled the project October 21, 1993 after $2 billion had been spent.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The SSC cost was due largely to the massive civil engineering project of digging a huge tunnel underground. The LHC in contrast took over the pre-existing engineering infrastructure and 27 km long underground cavern of the Large Electron-Positron Collider, and used innovative magnet designs to bend the higher energy particles into the available tunnel.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The LHC eventually cost the equivalent of about 5 billion US dollars to build.&lt;/i&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>New Particle Discovered at CERN</title><url>http://www.mediadesk.uzh.ch/articles/2012/uzh-forschende-entdecken-neues-teilchen-am-cern_en.html</url><text></text></story><parent_chain><item><author>muhfuhkuh</author><text>I know that the world is essentially flat and that we shouldn&apos;t be so jingoistic anymore, but does it trouble anyone besides me that CERN is under the Swiss Alps near Geneva instead of under the scorching sun in the New Mexico desert? Shouldn&apos;t the &quot;greatest Superpower in World History&quot; be the one crashing atoms together like NASCAR autos and seeing all the mess that comes out of it? Now that I think about it, maybe if we market it that way...&lt;p&gt;I fear that the only advocate we have left for a strong scientific America is Neil deGrasse Tyson.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ajdecon</author><text>As a (ex-)physicist, I don&apos;t particularly care where the experiments are taking place: cool science is being done, and the people at CERN are a pretty international bunch.  They&apos;re also scattered around the world: I know a few people at the University of Michigan involved in the project, albeit mostly on the data analysis side of things.&lt;p&gt;As an American... well, we&apos;ve demonstrated that we don&apos;t plan to do any big particle physics locally anytime soon.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-09-30/news/ct-met-fermilab-tevatron-closing-20110930_1_fermilab-director-pier-oddone-tevatron-particle-physics&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-09-30/news/ct-met-fe...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;sigh&lt;/i&gt;</text></comment>