<story><title>Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S</title><url>http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/10/apple-unveils-the-iphone-5s/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cheald</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not snarking at all. I&amp;#x27;m observing that comments about the NSA are entirely &lt;i&gt;apropos&lt;/i&gt; given the current climate we live in. Yes, you&amp;#x27;re right, at this point, it would take something extremely radical to convince us that the NSA isn&amp;#x27;t spying on us anymore. Therefore, we should expect comments about the NSA and spying to become a part of the common dialog regarding technology and personal information. Asking them to go away is just asking people to stick their head in the sand and ignore it.&lt;p&gt;The comments will go away when the issue goes away. The issue isn&amp;#x27;t going to go away. Therefore, don&amp;#x27;t expect the comments to, either. Welcome to the world we now live in.</text></item><item><author>stanleydrew</author><text>More snark. This isn&amp;#x27;t helpful.&lt;p&gt;For those who want to believe it, I doubt there is any amount of information that could ever be released to convince them that the NSA &lt;i&gt;isn&amp;#x27;t&lt;/i&gt; spying on people anymore.</text></item><item><author>cheald</author><text>Probably when the NSA stops illegally spying on the citizens it is supposed to serve.</text></item><item><author>dev_jim</author><text>Urgh. When do we get to the point where I can read HN without a snarky NSA comment being voted to the top?</text></item><item><author>pilif</author><text>Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I&amp;#x27;m also not so sure whether a fingerprint can&amp;#x27;t still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example).&lt;p&gt;Personally, I think I&amp;#x27;d rather stay with my passcode.&lt;p&gt;Did you btw know that you can turn off &amp;quot;simple passcode&amp;quot; and then use a purely numeric longer passcode? In that case the iPhone will still show the big easy-to-hit numeric keyboard allowing you to type in the arbitrary length numeric code.&lt;p&gt;Yes. It&amp;#x27;s not as safe as a long alphanumeric password, but this gets annoying SO quickly, I&amp;#x27;d rather type in my 8 digits.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>melling</author><text>But you are accomplishing absolutely nothing here. Being annoying and ineffective doesn&amp;#x27;t help your cause.  Do you know that Jesus loves you and he wants to save your soul?&lt;p&gt;You might as we&amp;#x27;ll be discussing religion or politics here. This is not the place.  I heard your warning the first ten times.</text></comment>
<story><title>Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S</title><url>http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/10/apple-unveils-the-iphone-5s/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>cheald</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m not snarking at all. I&amp;#x27;m observing that comments about the NSA are entirely &lt;i&gt;apropos&lt;/i&gt; given the current climate we live in. Yes, you&amp;#x27;re right, at this point, it would take something extremely radical to convince us that the NSA isn&amp;#x27;t spying on us anymore. Therefore, we should expect comments about the NSA and spying to become a part of the common dialog regarding technology and personal information. Asking them to go away is just asking people to stick their head in the sand and ignore it.&lt;p&gt;The comments will go away when the issue goes away. The issue isn&amp;#x27;t going to go away. Therefore, don&amp;#x27;t expect the comments to, either. Welcome to the world we now live in.</text></item><item><author>stanleydrew</author><text>More snark. This isn&amp;#x27;t helpful.&lt;p&gt;For those who want to believe it, I doubt there is any amount of information that could ever be released to convince them that the NSA &lt;i&gt;isn&amp;#x27;t&lt;/i&gt; spying on people anymore.</text></item><item><author>cheald</author><text>Probably when the NSA stops illegally spying on the citizens it is supposed to serve.</text></item><item><author>dev_jim</author><text>Urgh. When do we get to the point where I can read HN without a snarky NSA comment being voted to the top?</text></item><item><author>pilif</author><text>Now that we have to consider the iPhones to be backdoored by the NSA, I wonder whether I really want to give them my fingerprint together with the rest of my data. I&amp;#x27;m also not so sure whether a fingerprint can&amp;#x27;t still be easily faked (like it was possible on that Mythbusters episode for example).&lt;p&gt;Personally, I think I&amp;#x27;d rather stay with my passcode.&lt;p&gt;Did you btw know that you can turn off &amp;quot;simple passcode&amp;quot; and then use a purely numeric longer passcode? In that case the iPhone will still show the big easy-to-hit numeric keyboard allowing you to type in the arbitrary length numeric code.&lt;p&gt;Yes. It&amp;#x27;s not as safe as a long alphanumeric password, but this gets annoying SO quickly, I&amp;#x27;d rather type in my 8 digits.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>timr</author><text>&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Asking them to go away is just asking people to stick their head in the sand and ignore it.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think what&amp;#x27;s happening here is that &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; are being asked to go away.  Your comments aren&amp;#x27;t adding anything to this discussion about a new iPhone.</text></comment>