<story><title>It doesn&apos;t have to be crazy at work</title><url>https://basecamp.com/books/calm</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sgift</author><text>&amp;gt; It&amp;#x27;s a tiny industry here and no-one is looking to build the next facebook, they&amp;#x27;re just looking to do interesting work whilst also having a good life.&lt;p&gt;This is something I miss in all the &amp;quot;Europe doesn&amp;#x27;t have the next Google, Europe doesn&amp;#x27;t have the next Facebook&amp;quot; discussions: Is this really a problem? We could if we wanted, but why would we want? Working like crazy for .. what?</text></item><item><author>dominicr</author><text>The workaholic side of me used to like the crazy but the aging me likes a better work&amp;#x2F;life balance.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m British but recently moved to Oslo, Norway. Until recently I worked at a start-up incubator where there was talk about the &amp;#x27;extreme&amp;#x27; start up work life. For Norwegians that meant that they left the office at 5pm instead of 3:30 or 4pm. By 6pm the hot desk office space was normally empty and the lights switched themselves off.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a tiny industry here and no-one is looking to build the next facebook, they&amp;#x27;re just looking to do interesting work whilst also having a good life.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>AndyMcConachie</author><text>You may be surprised. I was talking to an American friend who works in the maritime industry and he was completely jealous of the Norwegian start up scene. In the maritime industry.&lt;p&gt;People make money doing things besides computers. Sometimes I think HackerNews folks forget that.</text></comment>
<story><title>It doesn&apos;t have to be crazy at work</title><url>https://basecamp.com/books/calm</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sgift</author><text>&amp;gt; It&amp;#x27;s a tiny industry here and no-one is looking to build the next facebook, they&amp;#x27;re just looking to do interesting work whilst also having a good life.&lt;p&gt;This is something I miss in all the &amp;quot;Europe doesn&amp;#x27;t have the next Google, Europe doesn&amp;#x27;t have the next Facebook&amp;quot; discussions: Is this really a problem? We could if we wanted, but why would we want? Working like crazy for .. what?</text></item><item><author>dominicr</author><text>The workaholic side of me used to like the crazy but the aging me likes a better work&amp;#x2F;life balance.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m British but recently moved to Oslo, Norway. Until recently I worked at a start-up incubator where there was talk about the &amp;#x27;extreme&amp;#x27; start up work life. For Norwegians that meant that they left the office at 5pm instead of 3:30 or 4pm. By 6pm the hot desk office space was normally empty and the lights switched themselves off.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a tiny industry here and no-one is looking to build the next facebook, they&amp;#x27;re just looking to do interesting work whilst also having a good life.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rolodato</author><text>Those discussions&amp;#x2F;articles are mostly started by Americans, not Europeans.</text></comment>