<story><title>Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm</title><url>https://www.economist.com/business/2023/01/04/investors-conclude-that-tesla-is-a-carmaker-not-a-tech-firm</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>judge2020</author><text>The difference seems to be that Tesla was 5-10 years ahead on everything: Minimalistic interiors, modern infotainment, mobile app performance, and of course they lead the way in making electric cars viable by showing that they can both look good and blast off in record time. But you&amp;#x27;re right that other automakers see Tesla as a threat and are catching up; for example, the range and charging curve improvements on models like the EV6 &amp;#x2F; Ioniq 5 look great, assuming the charger work [in the cold].</text></item><item><author>msoad</author><text>I have a Tesla and I also hold a short position on TSLA. My Tesla is a great car. The best car that I&amp;#x27;ve ever driven but I&amp;#x27;m not sure if it has anything that other car manufacturers can&amp;#x27;t replicate. I think Apple can make an even better car than Tesla if they build the hardware and software like their phones and computers.&lt;p&gt;The idea that Autopilot has some magic sauce that nobody else can replicate is laughable.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>cainxinth</author><text>&amp;gt; Minimalistic interiors, modern infotainment, mobile app performance&lt;p&gt;None of that is why Tesla was ahead of everyone for so long.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s because their cars have better range, and Tesla is still the range leader. They held four of the top six spots in 2022, and the number one is the Lucid Air (only 3k of them have actually been sold):&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.caranddriver.com&amp;#x2F;shopping-advice&amp;#x2F;g32634624&amp;#x2F;ev-longest-driving-range&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.caranddriver.com&amp;#x2F;shopping-advice&amp;#x2F;g32634624&amp;#x2F;ev-lo...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also, I just want to say I am categorically not an Elon or Tesla fanboi and I am rooting for other brands to meet and exceed their range performance.</text></comment>
<story><title>Investors conclude that Tesla is a carmaker, not a tech firm</title><url>https://www.economist.com/business/2023/01/04/investors-conclude-that-tesla-is-a-carmaker-not-a-tech-firm</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>judge2020</author><text>The difference seems to be that Tesla was 5-10 years ahead on everything: Minimalistic interiors, modern infotainment, mobile app performance, and of course they lead the way in making electric cars viable by showing that they can both look good and blast off in record time. But you&amp;#x27;re right that other automakers see Tesla as a threat and are catching up; for example, the range and charging curve improvements on models like the EV6 &amp;#x2F; Ioniq 5 look great, assuming the charger work [in the cold].</text></item><item><author>msoad</author><text>I have a Tesla and I also hold a short position on TSLA. My Tesla is a great car. The best car that I&amp;#x27;ve ever driven but I&amp;#x27;m not sure if it has anything that other car manufacturers can&amp;#x27;t replicate. I think Apple can make an even better car than Tesla if they build the hardware and software like their phones and computers.&lt;p&gt;The idea that Autopilot has some magic sauce that nobody else can replicate is laughable.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bartread</author><text>&amp;gt; Minimalistic interiors&lt;p&gt;Is this something you see as a benefit? For me Tesla&amp;#x27;s overall aesthetic, including both their exterior looks and interior design, along with the absence of physical controls that go long with that represent their biggest downsides (outside of build quality).</text></comment>