<story><title>China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Max aircraft</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airlines-china/china-orders-its-airlines-to-suspend-use-of-boeing-737-max-aircraft-media-idUSKBN1QS01Z</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>quanticle</author><text>&amp;gt;I wouldn&amp;#x27;t put faith in the FAA to be beyond political influence and crack down on an American manufacturer quickly.&lt;p&gt;I would. The FAA grounded the Boeing 787 after some widely publicized battery fires: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Boeing_787_Dreamliner_battery_problems#Groundings&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Boeing_787_Dreamliner_battery_...&lt;/a&gt;. I would assume that they would do the same thing here, if this also turned out to be a widespread issue not related to aircraft maintenance or pilot training.</text></item><item><author>dschuler</author><text>People seem to think this is a political move by the China, which may be true, but this is actually what they&amp;#x27;re supposed to do. According to the article, 96 737 MAX jets are operated by Chinese airlines, and the aircraft appears to be racking up a questionable safety record.&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&amp;#x27;t put faith in the FAA to be beyond political influence and crack down on an American manufacturer quickly.&lt;p&gt;Lauda Air flight 004 [0] crashed in 1991 after inadvertent thrust reverser deployment mid-flight, which were not secured with positive locks since Boeing deemed this to be impossible. The FAA accepted Boeing&amp;#x27;s tests at face value. Regardless, Boeing insisted this would be a survivable event - it wasn&amp;#x27;t until Niki Lauda (airline&amp;#x27;s founder) insisted Boeing issue a statement to the contrary or to perform a test flight with him and two pilots attempting a deliberate reverse thrust deployment mid-flight. Boeing relented and acknowledged the defect.&lt;p&gt;The more groups looking at aviation safety, the better.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Lauda_Air_Flight_004&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Lauda_Air_Flight_004&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ulfw</author><text>Please don&amp;#x27;t try to change history. The FAA only took action after the Japanese (the only major operators at the time) stopped flying them.&lt;p&gt;The same FAA who is in bed with Boeing I might say.
Where in the world can you self-certify anything? What&amp;#x27;s the point of getting certified if you can do it yourself? Reminds me of self-grading in school. That was only in classes noone ever cared about.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.seattletimes.com&amp;#x2F;seattle-news&amp;#x2F;faa-faulted-for-outsourcing-787-safety-checks-to-boeing&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.seattletimes.com&amp;#x2F;seattle-news&amp;#x2F;faa-faulted-for-ou...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>China orders its airlines to suspend use of Boeing 737 Max aircraft</title><url>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airlines-china/china-orders-its-airlines-to-suspend-use-of-boeing-737-max-aircraft-media-idUSKBN1QS01Z</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>quanticle</author><text>&amp;gt;I wouldn&amp;#x27;t put faith in the FAA to be beyond political influence and crack down on an American manufacturer quickly.&lt;p&gt;I would. The FAA grounded the Boeing 787 after some widely publicized battery fires: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Boeing_787_Dreamliner_battery_problems#Groundings&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Boeing_787_Dreamliner_battery_...&lt;/a&gt;. I would assume that they would do the same thing here, if this also turned out to be a widespread issue not related to aircraft maintenance or pilot training.</text></item><item><author>dschuler</author><text>People seem to think this is a political move by the China, which may be true, but this is actually what they&amp;#x27;re supposed to do. According to the article, 96 737 MAX jets are operated by Chinese airlines, and the aircraft appears to be racking up a questionable safety record.&lt;p&gt;I wouldn&amp;#x27;t put faith in the FAA to be beyond political influence and crack down on an American manufacturer quickly.&lt;p&gt;Lauda Air flight 004 [0] crashed in 1991 after inadvertent thrust reverser deployment mid-flight, which were not secured with positive locks since Boeing deemed this to be impossible. The FAA accepted Boeing&amp;#x27;s tests at face value. Regardless, Boeing insisted this would be a survivable event - it wasn&amp;#x27;t until Niki Lauda (airline&amp;#x27;s founder) insisted Boeing issue a statement to the contrary or to perform a test flight with him and two pilots attempting a deliberate reverse thrust deployment mid-flight. Boeing relented and acknowledged the defect.&lt;p&gt;The more groups looking at aviation safety, the better.&lt;p&gt;[0] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Lauda_Air_Flight_004&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Lauda_Air_Flight_004&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>akg_67</author><text>IIRC, FAA didn’t ground 787 until both Japanese airlines had grounded the 787. With the number of fatalities and accidents new 737 had, it should be grounded by all airlines.</text></comment>