<story><title>The next Google</title><url>https://dkb.io/post/the-next-google</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>idiotsecant</author><text>The death of the web is because most people don&amp;#x27;t want what you want. They don&amp;#x27;t mind walled gardens, so long as they are easy to use and have the content and connections that they want to see.&lt;p&gt;The audience of HN is extremely skewed towards preferring systems that allow tinkering but that&amp;#x27;s not what the market wants.</text></item><item><author>mostlysimilar</author><text>&amp;gt; a simple box where you put a question in and it gives you answers&lt;p&gt;Google is very good at this, but this is exactly what I _don&amp;#x27;t_ want in the &amp;quot;Next Google&amp;quot;. I want a _search engine_ for the web, not an answers engine that tries to know what I want better than I do.&lt;p&gt;Search the web. Give me links to websites. This seems obvious to me, but everyone is trying to be like Google.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m convinced the death of the web and independent forum communities is largely the fault of Google&amp;#x27;s lousy search results no longer actually returning real web results.</text></item><item><author>Barrin92</author><text>I think &amp;#x27;more customization&amp;#x27; which is a theme with a lot of these alternatives is a fundamental dead end. I don&amp;#x27;t know where this persistent myth comes from that people love choice and tinkering, because they clearly don&amp;#x27;t. There&amp;#x27;s a huge cost associated with having to make choices, and one feature of successful modern apps is that they&amp;#x27;re frictionless. That&amp;#x27;s why TikTok is so successful. There&amp;#x27;s no login, no user chosen social graph, everything&amp;#x27;s abstracted away.&lt;p&gt;And that&amp;#x27;s by the way why Google is still successful as well. Because it literally still is a simple box where you put a question in and it gives you answers without needing to do anything else. The only way to beat that is to make it even better while not making it more complicated which is very hard to do.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>baxtr</author><text>This. People don&amp;#x27;t realize that the early web was elitist. Now, the entire population is online. And, as you said, most people simply don&amp;#x27;t care about the stuff we care about.&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#x27;s also why &amp;quot;Google&amp;#x27;s search results are soo bad.&amp;quot; They&amp;#x27;re not. For the bulk of Google&amp;#x27;s visitors, they&amp;#x27;re good enough.</text></comment>
<story><title>The next Google</title><url>https://dkb.io/post/the-next-google</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>idiotsecant</author><text>The death of the web is because most people don&amp;#x27;t want what you want. They don&amp;#x27;t mind walled gardens, so long as they are easy to use and have the content and connections that they want to see.&lt;p&gt;The audience of HN is extremely skewed towards preferring systems that allow tinkering but that&amp;#x27;s not what the market wants.</text></item><item><author>mostlysimilar</author><text>&amp;gt; a simple box where you put a question in and it gives you answers&lt;p&gt;Google is very good at this, but this is exactly what I _don&amp;#x27;t_ want in the &amp;quot;Next Google&amp;quot;. I want a _search engine_ for the web, not an answers engine that tries to know what I want better than I do.&lt;p&gt;Search the web. Give me links to websites. This seems obvious to me, but everyone is trying to be like Google.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m convinced the death of the web and independent forum communities is largely the fault of Google&amp;#x27;s lousy search results no longer actually returning real web results.</text></item><item><author>Barrin92</author><text>I think &amp;#x27;more customization&amp;#x27; which is a theme with a lot of these alternatives is a fundamental dead end. I don&amp;#x27;t know where this persistent myth comes from that people love choice and tinkering, because they clearly don&amp;#x27;t. There&amp;#x27;s a huge cost associated with having to make choices, and one feature of successful modern apps is that they&amp;#x27;re frictionless. That&amp;#x27;s why TikTok is so successful. There&amp;#x27;s no login, no user chosen social graph, everything&amp;#x27;s abstracted away.&lt;p&gt;And that&amp;#x27;s by the way why Google is still successful as well. Because it literally still is a simple box where you put a question in and it gives you answers without needing to do anything else. The only way to beat that is to make it even better while not making it more complicated which is very hard to do.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ouid</author><text>What the market has produced is not ipso facto what the people want. The market is simultaneously optimizing many things. Walled gardens are much better explained by companies benefitting from not having to allow their competitors access to their customers than by &amp;quot;being what the people want&amp;quot;.</text></comment>