<story><title>Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out</title><url>https://explore.zoom.us/en/terms/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jxf</author><text>edit: I&amp;#x27;m retracting my earlier comment. Earlier I wrote that the headline didn&amp;#x27;t seem to match what was in the TOS, since OP never mentioned which part they&amp;#x27;re concerned about.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m now assuming the part they don&amp;#x27;t like is §10.4(ii):&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; 10.4 Customer License Grant. You agree to grant and hereby grant Zoom a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicensable, and transferable license and all other rights required or necessary to redistribute, publish, import, access, use, store, transmit, review, disclose, preserve, extract, modify, reproduce, share, use, display, copy, distribute, translate, transcribe, create derivative works, and process Customer Content and to perform all acts with respect to the Customer Content: [...] _(ii) for the purpose of product and service development, marketing, analytics, quality assurance, machine learning, artificial intelligence, training, testing, improvement of the Services, Software, or Zoom’s other products, services, and software, or any combination thereof_&lt;p&gt;Notice that 10.4(ii) says they can use Customer Content &amp;quot;for ... machine learning, artificial intelligence, training&amp;quot;, which is certainly allowing training on user content.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jsnell</author><text>But it &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; saying that your customer content may be used for training AI, in 10.4:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; 10.4 Customer License Grant. You agree to grant and hereby grant Zoom a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicensable, and transferable license and all other rights required or necessary to redistribute, publish, import, access, use, store, transmit, review, disclose, preserve, extract, modify, reproduce, share, use, display, copy, distribute, translate, transcribe, create derivative works, and process &lt;i&gt;Customer Content&lt;/i&gt; and to perform all acts with respect to the Customer Content: (i) as may be necessary for Zoom to provide the Services to you, including to support the Services; (ii) for the purpose of product and service development, marketing, analytics, quality assurance, &lt;i&gt;machine learning, artificial intelligence&lt;/i&gt;, [...]</text></comment>
<story><title>Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out</title><url>https://explore.zoom.us/en/terms/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>jxf</author><text>edit: I&amp;#x27;m retracting my earlier comment. Earlier I wrote that the headline didn&amp;#x27;t seem to match what was in the TOS, since OP never mentioned which part they&amp;#x27;re concerned about.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m now assuming the part they don&amp;#x27;t like is §10.4(ii):&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; 10.4 Customer License Grant. You agree to grant and hereby grant Zoom a perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicensable, and transferable license and all other rights required or necessary to redistribute, publish, import, access, use, store, transmit, review, disclose, preserve, extract, modify, reproduce, share, use, display, copy, distribute, translate, transcribe, create derivative works, and process Customer Content and to perform all acts with respect to the Customer Content: [...] _(ii) for the purpose of product and service development, marketing, analytics, quality assurance, machine learning, artificial intelligence, training, testing, improvement of the Services, Software, or Zoom’s other products, services, and software, or any combination thereof_&lt;p&gt;Notice that 10.4(ii) says they can use Customer Content &amp;quot;for ... machine learning, artificial intelligence, training&amp;quot;, which is certainly allowing training on user content.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>westcort</author><text>You will have to excuse me if I don’t trust a company that kicks off users at the behest of the PRC!&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;techcrunch.com&amp;#x2F;2020&amp;#x2F;06&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;zoom-admits-to-shutting-down-activist-accounts-at-the-request-of-the-chinese-government&amp;#x2F;amp&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;techcrunch.com&amp;#x2F;2020&amp;#x2F;06&amp;#x2F;11&amp;#x2F;zoom-admits-to-shutting-do...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Quibbles over the definition of phrases like “Customer Content” and “Service Generated Data” are designed to obfuscate meaning and confuse readers to think that the headline is wrong. It is not wrong. This company does what it wants to, obviously, given it’s complicity with a regime that is currently engaging in genocide.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.bbc.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;world-asia-china-22278037.amp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.bbc.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;world-asia-china-22278037.amp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do you trust them to generate an AI model of your appearance and voice that could be used to destroy your life? I don’t.</text></comment>