<story><title>Amazon Sidewalk</title><url>https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Sidewalk/b?node=21328123011</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>squarefoot</author><text>So, if I buy a so called Smart-TV (not because I like it but because traditional ones are getting harder to find) but don&amp;#x27;t set up it on my home network so it can&amp;#x27;t phone home, it could scan around anyway and find other open devices more than willing to participate in my personal data exfiltration?
If the Amazon project succeeds, I would expect in a few months most home devices manufacturers, to partner to implement it so they have a way to circumvent users choices.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ulzeraj</author><text>IMO. There should be a market for:&lt;p&gt;- Dumb panels (not monitors). Perhaps stripped down recycled smart tvs.&lt;p&gt;- Smart tvs but with user replaceable firmware. Think OpenWRT for TVs. Maybe the same guy who does the dumb panels could sell those but with a raspberry pi in place of the logic board.&lt;p&gt;Of course a monitor solves these issues but these are normally smaller and more expensive.</text></comment>
<story><title>Amazon Sidewalk</title><url>https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Sidewalk/b?node=21328123011</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>squarefoot</author><text>So, if I buy a so called Smart-TV (not because I like it but because traditional ones are getting harder to find) but don&amp;#x27;t set up it on my home network so it can&amp;#x27;t phone home, it could scan around anyway and find other open devices more than willing to participate in my personal data exfiltration?
If the Amazon project succeeds, I would expect in a few months most home devices manufacturers, to partner to implement it so they have a way to circumvent users choices.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>choeger</author><text>This.&lt;p&gt;That move is just one step further in removing control. They now have sealed devices that can have who knows what functions but are confined to the network. Next step is to have a concealed upstream. After that they will somehow get a legal mandate to force such devices on you (like the EU did with cars). Maybe they will use smoke detectors or &amp;quot;emergency&amp;quot; services. In the end, this &lt;i&gt;is exactly&lt;/i&gt; like in 1984.</text></comment>