<story><title>ASML dethrones Applied Materials, becomes largest fab tool maker</title><url>https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/manufacturing/asml-dethrones-applied-materials-becomes-worlds-largest-fab-tool-maker-analyst</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>lnxg33k1</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve lived in NL for a while, few years, changed few companies, it&amp;#x27;s a place where processes are more important than actual code quality, where people stay in the same job for 10-15 years and everything below that is seen as a bad thing, people is hired for the culture primarily, having awareness of software principles is really worthless. I ran away as the last company I interviewed with, after solving a coding puzzle in 30 seconds, finishing in 15 mins something which had to take 45 mins, asked &amp;quot;Are you available to come at the office on Friday for company parties?&amp;quot;. So I can only have nightmares about software practices in NL companies&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve seen files with 13k lines of if&amp;#x2F;else&amp;#x2F;switch, how do you test that shit .-.</text></item><item><author>nn3</author><text>Relevant HN comment:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=18463181&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=18463181&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Apparently their software development processes are terrible.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>smooc</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m a hiring manager in the Netherlands. I would be happy that you ran away, because you would not have passed the bar.&lt;p&gt;The hiring process I like to have in place is:&lt;p&gt;1. HR Interview: see if there is a fit with the company
2. Skill check. Do you have the problem solving, hard skills and communication skills needed for the job.
3. Team fit. Do you like to drink a beer (or non alcoholic) with us and we with you. Can you hold a conversation about something else than work.&lt;p&gt;6 people are involved. 2 per step. Everyone has a veto. I as a manager do not have special power. I&amp;#x27;ve had people fail most of the time on #3. E.g. a guy that did not talk the woman of the team. She veto-ed. We were really looking for his skills, but he was a jerk.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t think you would have passed #3 either. You can have l33t coding skills, but if you cannot make it work in a team it is basically useless for anything of size.</text></comment>
<story><title>ASML dethrones Applied Materials, becomes largest fab tool maker</title><url>https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/manufacturing/asml-dethrones-applied-materials-becomes-worlds-largest-fab-tool-maker-analyst</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>lnxg33k1</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve lived in NL for a while, few years, changed few companies, it&amp;#x27;s a place where processes are more important than actual code quality, where people stay in the same job for 10-15 years and everything below that is seen as a bad thing, people is hired for the culture primarily, having awareness of software principles is really worthless. I ran away as the last company I interviewed with, after solving a coding puzzle in 30 seconds, finishing in 15 mins something which had to take 45 mins, asked &amp;quot;Are you available to come at the office on Friday for company parties?&amp;quot;. So I can only have nightmares about software practices in NL companies&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ve seen files with 13k lines of if&amp;#x2F;else&amp;#x2F;switch, how do you test that shit .-.</text></item><item><author>nn3</author><text>Relevant HN comment:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=18463181&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=18463181&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Apparently their software development processes are terrible.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mrtksn</author><text>Good thing that soon all the software would be written by AI then.&lt;p&gt;Slightly kidding, but only slightly because I kind of agree with the idea that people shouldn&amp;#x27;t be writing software but designing systems. All this big talks about unit testing, management styles etc. and at the end we have this software all around with huge security holes and terrible bugs. Maybe the people partying on Fridays right after pushing untested code to production are having it right. Their machines work.</text></comment>