<story><title>Microsoft announces support for SSH</title><url>http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&amp;sid=20150603090420&amp;mode=expanded</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sullivanmatt</author><text>The Microsoft of today is not the Microsoft of 15 years ago.  Nadella has a long history of embracing openness, especially with the Cloud Services division he was heading until his appointment as CEO.  I think the open-sourcing of the .NET platform is a big testament to that.  The old Microsoft guard would have ran the company into the ground before doing that.</text></item><item><author>raverbashing</author><text>&amp;quot;this is a harbinger of Microsoft trying to take over SSH... well, get those tinfoil hats ready&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Because MS never tried that? See Kerberos, for example:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish#Examples&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>bovermyer</author><text>This is excellent. Now I won&amp;#x27;t have to rely on that terrible, terrible program PuTTY.&lt;p&gt;As for those who are claiming this is a harbinger of Microsoft trying to take over SSH... well, get those tinfoil hats ready, kids. Looks like Nadella&amp;#x27;s Microsoft is willing to play nice in a wide variety of arenas, so you&amp;#x27;ll have all kinds of things to be foolishly terrified of.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jonhohle</author><text>Where is the evidence that this is not the Microsoft of 15-25 years ago?&lt;p&gt;What was going on 20 years ago at Microsoft?&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;    * implementing POSIX application compatibility to compete with UNIX for gov. contracts
    * giving away IE
    * embrace and extending Java
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
Compare to today&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;    * additional compatibility with tools typically used in Unix administration
    * giving away windows
    * Objective-C&amp;#x2F;Cocoa support for Windows applications
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;
The steps they were taking didn&amp;#x27;t seem bad until the end game was obvious, but they started out very similarly to the current initiatives. A lot of the actions seem exactly like 20 years ago - do whatever it takes to get market share, make it incredibly difficult for that market share to migrate.</text></comment>
<story><title>Microsoft announces support for SSH</title><url>http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&amp;sid=20150603090420&amp;mode=expanded</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>sullivanmatt</author><text>The Microsoft of today is not the Microsoft of 15 years ago.  Nadella has a long history of embracing openness, especially with the Cloud Services division he was heading until his appointment as CEO.  I think the open-sourcing of the .NET platform is a big testament to that.  The old Microsoft guard would have ran the company into the ground before doing that.</text></item><item><author>raverbashing</author><text>&amp;quot;this is a harbinger of Microsoft trying to take over SSH... well, get those tinfoil hats ready&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Because MS never tried that? See Kerberos, for example:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish#Examples&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>bovermyer</author><text>This is excellent. Now I won&amp;#x27;t have to rely on that terrible, terrible program PuTTY.&lt;p&gt;As for those who are claiming this is a harbinger of Microsoft trying to take over SSH... well, get those tinfoil hats ready, kids. Looks like Nadella&amp;#x27;s Microsoft is willing to play nice in a wide variety of arenas, so you&amp;#x27;ll have all kinds of things to be foolishly terrified of.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>raverbashing</author><text>I agree, it&amp;#x27;s not the same MS.&lt;p&gt;Just don&amp;#x27;t forget about the royalties MS charges from Android manufacturers as well.&lt;p&gt;They might be on the right reinvention path, but they&amp;#x27;re still a giant company, and one to be respected.</text></comment>