<story><title>Ask HN: Why and how is Gartner Inc. still relevant?</title><text>I just came across one of Gartner&amp;#x27;s most recent publications (predictions, trends, ...).&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m finding it hard to distill through the fluff to find meaningful insights. 
Their trends are dated and it feels as if someone has spilled the buzzword paint on a slide deck.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m experiencing first-hand the mess they have caused by suggesting an operational&amp;#x2F;outsourcing model that makes it extremely hard to get anything done other than planning.&lt;p&gt;How are they still relevant?</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>dplgk</author><text>So basically Gartner is there to gobble up money from incompetence.</text></item><item><author>chomp</author><text>Is there a better corporate insights and research firm that you know of?&lt;p&gt;Their trends seem dated because they&amp;#x27;re not going to feed enterprises bleeding edge tech trends; they&amp;#x27;re going to go with trends that are mostly proven, so yes at that point they&amp;#x27;re probably going to be a bit stale. Large enterprises with minimal tech advocacy&amp;#x2F;leadership in the senior leadership team eat this stuff up because they don&amp;#x27;t know much better.&lt;p&gt;Frankly, if your business is struggling with operations to a point where they are bringing in third parties to get told to outsource operations, I feel like your business has a competency problem that you can&amp;#x27;t place squarely on the shoulders of Gartner.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Kalium</author><text>You could look at it that way!&lt;p&gt;Some might describe Gartner as a company that dispenses reasonable advice on demand to companies who need guidance on subjects well outside their core competencies. This is very much making money from incompetence, but it&amp;#x27;s the sort of profiting from incompetence that every expert adviser does.</text></comment>
<story><title>Ask HN: Why and how is Gartner Inc. still relevant?</title><text>I just came across one of Gartner&amp;#x27;s most recent publications (predictions, trends, ...).&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m finding it hard to distill through the fluff to find meaningful insights. 
Their trends are dated and it feels as if someone has spilled the buzzword paint on a slide deck.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m experiencing first-hand the mess they have caused by suggesting an operational&amp;#x2F;outsourcing model that makes it extremely hard to get anything done other than planning.&lt;p&gt;How are they still relevant?</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>dplgk</author><text>So basically Gartner is there to gobble up money from incompetence.</text></item><item><author>chomp</author><text>Is there a better corporate insights and research firm that you know of?&lt;p&gt;Their trends seem dated because they&amp;#x27;re not going to feed enterprises bleeding edge tech trends; they&amp;#x27;re going to go with trends that are mostly proven, so yes at that point they&amp;#x27;re probably going to be a bit stale. Large enterprises with minimal tech advocacy&amp;#x2F;leadership in the senior leadership team eat this stuff up because they don&amp;#x27;t know much better.&lt;p&gt;Frankly, if your business is struggling with operations to a point where they are bringing in third parties to get told to outsource operations, I feel like your business has a competency problem that you can&amp;#x27;t place squarely on the shoulders of Gartner.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>monkeydreams</author><text>In the same way that the supermarket is there to gobble money up from your inability to grow your own vegetables, mix up your own detergents, manufacture your own batteries, etc.</text></comment>