<story><title>U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row with China</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-28/u-k-plans-citizenship-for-hong-kong-residents-in-row-with-china</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>hyko</author><text>Yeah, time for that racist bullshit to end. Same stunt that the U.S. pulls in its colonies: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Unincorporated_territories_of_the_United_States&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Unincorporated_territories_o...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#x27;re either a full and free citizen of the empire or not imo; special classes of citizenship based on race and geography are an abomination to all lovers of freedom and justice.&lt;p&gt;Edited to add: why don’t people get angry when they realise there is blatant and systemic racism being funded with their money, on their behalf?</text></item><item><author>eigenvector</author><text>The history of the &amp;quot;British National (Overseas)&amp;quot; nationality is worth a read.[1][2]&lt;p&gt;During the decolonization of the British Empire, the UK did not want large numbers of non-white people immigrating to the British Isles. HK was only one instance of this. BN(O) nationality was one of many convenient bureaucratic fictions created in order to rationalize how someone born as a British subject in a British territory could lose the right to continue to live on British territory. Particularly affected were people of Indian ethnicity who had immigrated to other British colonies as civil servants; they became ethnic minorities in their newly independent countries and while their white coworkers were granted British citizenship, they were left behind.&lt;p&gt;Thousands of people became stateless as a result of this policy.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;British_Overseas_citizen&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;British_Overseas_citizen&lt;/a&gt;
[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;British_National_(Overseas)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;British_National_(Overseas)&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rayiner</author><text>It’s not the “same stunt” in the US. Residents of all the incorporated territories, and all the unincorporated territories but Guam, are US citizens. The residents of Guam are US nationals that can apply for citizenship. Unlike subjects of the former British empire, &lt;i&gt;all have a right to reside anywhere in the US.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;The US system does not raise the same concerns about racism. There are different political subdivisions in the US with different relationships with the federal union. For example, those in Puerto Rico don’t pay federal taxes. Washington DC has no independent sovereignty, unlike the states, etc. But those distinctions aren’t based on race or nationality (everyone is a US national). And in many respects they are mutual decisions. Puerto Rico has repeatedly rejected ballot measures to become a state. If a Puerto Rican person wants to vote in US elections, they can just move to any other political subdivision of the US that is a full state.</text></comment>
<story><title>U.K. Plans Citizenship for Hong Kong Residents in Row with China</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-28/u-k-plans-citizenship-for-hong-kong-residents-in-row-with-china</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>hyko</author><text>Yeah, time for that racist bullshit to end. Same stunt that the U.S. pulls in its colonies: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Unincorporated_territories_of_the_United_States&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Unincorporated_territories_o...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#x27;re either a full and free citizen of the empire or not imo; special classes of citizenship based on race and geography are an abomination to all lovers of freedom and justice.&lt;p&gt;Edited to add: why don’t people get angry when they realise there is blatant and systemic racism being funded with their money, on their behalf?</text></item><item><author>eigenvector</author><text>The history of the &amp;quot;British National (Overseas)&amp;quot; nationality is worth a read.[1][2]&lt;p&gt;During the decolonization of the British Empire, the UK did not want large numbers of non-white people immigrating to the British Isles. HK was only one instance of this. BN(O) nationality was one of many convenient bureaucratic fictions created in order to rationalize how someone born as a British subject in a British territory could lose the right to continue to live on British territory. Particularly affected were people of Indian ethnicity who had immigrated to other British colonies as civil servants; they became ethnic minorities in their newly independent countries and while their white coworkers were granted British citizenship, they were left behind.&lt;p&gt;Thousands of people became stateless as a result of this policy.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;British_Overseas_citizen&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;British_Overseas_citizen&lt;/a&gt;
[2] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;British_National_(Overseas)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;British_National_(Overseas)&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>bArray</author><text>&amp;gt; Yeah, time for that racist bullshit to end.&lt;p&gt;Probably more of an economic decision than one based in racism.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; You&amp;#x27;re either a full and free citizen of the empire or not&lt;p&gt;The British empire was disbanded, so there&amp;#x27;s nobody really to take your quarrel up with.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; special classes of citizenship based on race and geography&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; are an abomination to all lovers of freedom and justice.&lt;p&gt;Again, you&amp;#x27;re assuming it&amp;#x27;s based in race and geography. It seems more like the motivation was based in economics.</text></comment>