<story><title>Should gifted students go to a separate school?</title><url>https://theconversation.com/should-gifted-students-go-to-a-separate-school-71620</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ltbarcly3</author><text>Have you ever been inside a school?  The stupid kids don&amp;#x27;t gather around to bask in the glow of the gifted kids.  They DO gather around them and call them &amp;#x27;faggot&amp;#x27; and trip them in the hallway, especially if they are smart but not athletic.</text></item><item><author>Aqueous</author><text>4. This idea that education is &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; for &lt;i&gt;my own individual welfare&lt;/i&gt; has to end. It&amp;#x27;s creating a culture of individual atomism that is instilling the most anti-social, selfish values and corroding the country at its roots.&lt;p&gt;We go to school not just to be educated but to educate each other. If you&amp;#x27;re smart, you set an example to kids near us who don&amp;#x27;t feel that way. Hopefully, those who aren&amp;#x27;t labelled &amp;#x27;smart&amp;#x27; gain from the presence of &amp;#x27;smart&amp;#x27; students just as &amp;#x27;smart&amp;#x27; students gain from presence of kids who aren&amp;#x27;t labelled &amp;#x27;smart.&amp;#x27;</text></item><item><author>habosa</author><text>A lot of comments here sound something like this: &amp;quot;I am smart and when I was in high school the classes bored me because they were taught to the lowest common denominator&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;This is not an argument for intellectual segregation of schools.  While I could put forth a hundred arguments against this, here are a few off the top of my head:&lt;p&gt;1. When do we decide who is &amp;quot;gifted&amp;quot;?  What happens to late bloomers?  Are they forever cast down into a track of lower opportunity?  This will be highly correlated with race and socioeconomic status since we know that poor &amp;#x2F; minority communities don&amp;#x27;t have the best resources &amp;#x2F; results for early childhood development.&lt;p&gt;2. What about the social benefits of being around people who are on a different intellectual level?  &amp;quot;Smart&amp;quot; kids who never have to interact with anyone &amp;quot;below&amp;quot; them or &amp;quot;dumb&amp;quot; kids who never have to interact with anyone &amp;quot;above&amp;quot; them will have trouble navigating many social and professional situations.&lt;p&gt;3. &amp;quot;Gifted&amp;quot; kids often come with motivated parents.  Removing these children from schools will take their parents with them.  These parents are often the best advocates for positive change in their community.  The worst schools will never get better if all the talent is sucked out of them.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>r00fus</author><text>Do you think bullies are limited to the &amp;quot;stupid&amp;quot; kids?  Let me tell you something - that&amp;#x27;s not the case at all. There is a good distribution of smart kids who just like to mess with others as well.</text></comment>
<story><title>Should gifted students go to a separate school?</title><url>https://theconversation.com/should-gifted-students-go-to-a-separate-school-71620</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>ltbarcly3</author><text>Have you ever been inside a school?  The stupid kids don&amp;#x27;t gather around to bask in the glow of the gifted kids.  They DO gather around them and call them &amp;#x27;faggot&amp;#x27; and trip them in the hallway, especially if they are smart but not athletic.</text></item><item><author>Aqueous</author><text>4. This idea that education is &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; for &lt;i&gt;my own individual welfare&lt;/i&gt; has to end. It&amp;#x27;s creating a culture of individual atomism that is instilling the most anti-social, selfish values and corroding the country at its roots.&lt;p&gt;We go to school not just to be educated but to educate each other. If you&amp;#x27;re smart, you set an example to kids near us who don&amp;#x27;t feel that way. Hopefully, those who aren&amp;#x27;t labelled &amp;#x27;smart&amp;#x27; gain from the presence of &amp;#x27;smart&amp;#x27; students just as &amp;#x27;smart&amp;#x27; students gain from presence of kids who aren&amp;#x27;t labelled &amp;#x27;smart.&amp;#x27;</text></item><item><author>habosa</author><text>A lot of comments here sound something like this: &amp;quot;I am smart and when I was in high school the classes bored me because they were taught to the lowest common denominator&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;This is not an argument for intellectual segregation of schools.  While I could put forth a hundred arguments against this, here are a few off the top of my head:&lt;p&gt;1. When do we decide who is &amp;quot;gifted&amp;quot;?  What happens to late bloomers?  Are they forever cast down into a track of lower opportunity?  This will be highly correlated with race and socioeconomic status since we know that poor &amp;#x2F; minority communities don&amp;#x27;t have the best resources &amp;#x2F; results for early childhood development.&lt;p&gt;2. What about the social benefits of being around people who are on a different intellectual level?  &amp;quot;Smart&amp;quot; kids who never have to interact with anyone &amp;quot;below&amp;quot; them or &amp;quot;dumb&amp;quot; kids who never have to interact with anyone &amp;quot;above&amp;quot; them will have trouble navigating many social and professional situations.&lt;p&gt;3. &amp;quot;Gifted&amp;quot; kids often come with motivated parents.  Removing these children from schools will take their parents with them.  These parents are often the best advocates for positive change in their community.  The worst schools will never get better if all the talent is sucked out of them.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>forgotmysn</author><text>thats a generalization and sounds anecdotal</text></comment>