<story><title>UK PM wants to ban crypto: here&apos;s what it would cost, and why it won&apos;t work anyway</title><url>http://boingboing.net/2017/06/04/theresa-may-king-canute.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nyolfen</author><text>&amp;gt;All that being said, how do we the tech community solve Theresa May&amp;#x27;s problem? Her philosophy is &amp;quot;if we knew more, we could have prevented this.&amp;quot; Is that the right philosophy? Is there some other mechanism to authorize &amp;quot;legitimate&amp;quot; access to encrypted data?&lt;p&gt;there&amp;#x27;s absolutely nothing substantiating her claim. terrorists seem to have done just fine in the absence of encryption -- the bataclan attackers coordinated with ordinary sms. governments still make this push _all the time_, witness the doj going after apple after san bernardino.&lt;p&gt;the UK is literally the most surveilled society in the history of the world in terms of communications of its inhabitants intercepted by its own government, comparable perhaps only to the stasi. this is mode of action is not working. two attacks in two weeks, and their answer is &amp;quot;the same but more&amp;quot;?</text></item><item><author>joshpadnick</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m also deeply concerned about &amp;quot;backdoors for the good guys&amp;quot;. Beyond just worrying about who else could get access, the &amp;quot;good guys&amp;quot; really just means government, and my comfort level with the current Trump administration using their &amp;quot;good guy&amp;quot; backdoor for a noble purpose currently sits at zero.&lt;p&gt;All that being said, how do we the tech community solve Theresa May&amp;#x27;s problem? Her philosophy is &amp;quot;if we knew more, we could have prevented this.&amp;quot; Is that the right philosophy? Is there some other mechanism to authorize &amp;quot;legitimate&amp;quot; access to encrypted data?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>artursapek</author><text>&amp;gt; terrorists seem to have done just fine in the absence of encryption -- the bataclan attackers coordinated with ordinary sms&lt;p&gt;Even if the UK somehow managed to illegalize use of AES and other &amp;quot;professional&amp;quot; encryption algos, it would still be trivial to communicate using simple innocuous sounding code words over plain SMS. There&amp;#x27;s practically no way to detect it. The entire effort is futile from the very beginning.</text></comment>
<story><title>UK PM wants to ban crypto: here&apos;s what it would cost, and why it won&apos;t work anyway</title><url>http://boingboing.net/2017/06/04/theresa-may-king-canute.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nyolfen</author><text>&amp;gt;All that being said, how do we the tech community solve Theresa May&amp;#x27;s problem? Her philosophy is &amp;quot;if we knew more, we could have prevented this.&amp;quot; Is that the right philosophy? Is there some other mechanism to authorize &amp;quot;legitimate&amp;quot; access to encrypted data?&lt;p&gt;there&amp;#x27;s absolutely nothing substantiating her claim. terrorists seem to have done just fine in the absence of encryption -- the bataclan attackers coordinated with ordinary sms. governments still make this push _all the time_, witness the doj going after apple after san bernardino.&lt;p&gt;the UK is literally the most surveilled society in the history of the world in terms of communications of its inhabitants intercepted by its own government, comparable perhaps only to the stasi. this is mode of action is not working. two attacks in two weeks, and their answer is &amp;quot;the same but more&amp;quot;?</text></item><item><author>joshpadnick</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m also deeply concerned about &amp;quot;backdoors for the good guys&amp;quot;. Beyond just worrying about who else could get access, the &amp;quot;good guys&amp;quot; really just means government, and my comfort level with the current Trump administration using their &amp;quot;good guy&amp;quot; backdoor for a noble purpose currently sits at zero.&lt;p&gt;All that being said, how do we the tech community solve Theresa May&amp;#x27;s problem? Her philosophy is &amp;quot;if we knew more, we could have prevented this.&amp;quot; Is that the right philosophy? Is there some other mechanism to authorize &amp;quot;legitimate&amp;quot; access to encrypted data?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>cJ0th</author><text>&amp;gt; there&amp;#x27;s absolutely nothing substantiating her claim.&lt;p&gt;yes, and this is very weird. She must have a chain of reasoning going on in her head before opening her mouth, right? We always only get the conclusion, that is: &amp;quot;we need more access&amp;quot;. Any normal person looking for a solution to a problem would generate loads of ideas and then, when pitching an idea, present the pros&amp;#x2F;cons of their various ideas to finally argue why they have chosen solution x. We don&amp;#x27;t see any of that wrt to this topic.</text></comment>