<story><title>Tell HN: Gnome on Wayland Is Amazing</title><text>I&amp;#x27;ve been using MATE+Compiz on Archlinux since 2015 because I was used to it and it had a lot of GUI features that I didn&amp;#x27;t find elsewhere. At around the same time, I did give Gnome 3 a spin and found a lot of clunky behavior and bugs. Fast forward to yesterday when I was considering buying a new laptop to replace my ThinkPad x250 which is starting to show its age, I thought I give Gnome on Wayland another try.&lt;p&gt;OMG! It is nothing like I remember it. To put it succinctly, it&amp;#x27;s MacOS interface for linux. It&amp;#x27;s smooth, performant, beautiful and functional. I can do everything I used to have on Compiz, here on Gnome and it&amp;#x27;s built-in. I haven&amp;#x27;t actually needed any Gnome Extensions so far.&lt;p&gt;Well done Wayland, Gnome, GTK and every other project involved in making what&amp;#x27;s essentially the best Linux Desktop experience I&amp;#x27;ve ever had.&lt;p&gt;As for getting a new laptop, that idea went out the window fast. My machine feels like new and I can attest to a significant performance boost of GUI apps as the result of switching to Gnome.</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>semi-extrinsic</author><text>After 10 years I still don&amp;#x27;t understand why I should switch away from X11. It is mature and is still being developed (latest xorg-server release is from January 2022). It does what I need.&lt;p&gt;From my perspective, Wayland is like btrfs - it doesn&amp;#x27;t seem to offer me anything major worth switching for, and there are still gotcha&amp;#x27;s lurking.</text></item><item><author>roenxi</author><text>It is unfortunate that so many of the early comments are negative. Either Wayland is the future, or something that learns from Wayland&amp;#x27;s mistakes and leverages its ideas is. There is a really fertile field right now for experimentation in the world of compositors but I think people have been scared away by the long dark era of X Windows + binary graphics drivers. Maybe we&amp;#x27;re going to see a lot more of it on HN in the next decade?&lt;p&gt;What kept me off Wayland was the screenshots thing, but the argument in favour of the idea is strong. The downside is Wayland&amp;#x27;s conception of permissions and interactions is too basic and crippled adoption for a few years but the fundamentals (blocking cross-application snooping) is going to be necessary. Operating systems have to be less trusting.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mijoharas</author><text>For me, the feature was adaptive dpi scaling done correctly. I have a 4k laptop monitor and some 1080p screens that it connects to, and my solution on X was just to have everything at 1.5 scaling so it was just slightly off on both monitors.&lt;p&gt;After switching that, and then seeing beautiful crisp fonts everywhere has meant that I haven&amp;#x27;t even considered going back to X, although I had to uninstall the zoom desktop app in order to screenshare (which works through the web version on chrome).&lt;p&gt;I jumped pretty early, and almost every problem I had has been sorted out now, so it&amp;#x27;s just a better experience for me now. (also, screenshots work fine, it&amp;#x27;s just screensharing on certain old apps that&amp;#x27;s a problem).</text></comment>
<story><title>Tell HN: Gnome on Wayland Is Amazing</title><text>I&amp;#x27;ve been using MATE+Compiz on Archlinux since 2015 because I was used to it and it had a lot of GUI features that I didn&amp;#x27;t find elsewhere. At around the same time, I did give Gnome 3 a spin and found a lot of clunky behavior and bugs. Fast forward to yesterday when I was considering buying a new laptop to replace my ThinkPad x250 which is starting to show its age, I thought I give Gnome on Wayland another try.&lt;p&gt;OMG! It is nothing like I remember it. To put it succinctly, it&amp;#x27;s MacOS interface for linux. It&amp;#x27;s smooth, performant, beautiful and functional. I can do everything I used to have on Compiz, here on Gnome and it&amp;#x27;s built-in. I haven&amp;#x27;t actually needed any Gnome Extensions so far.&lt;p&gt;Well done Wayland, Gnome, GTK and every other project involved in making what&amp;#x27;s essentially the best Linux Desktop experience I&amp;#x27;ve ever had.&lt;p&gt;As for getting a new laptop, that idea went out the window fast. My machine feels like new and I can attest to a significant performance boost of GUI apps as the result of switching to Gnome.</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>semi-extrinsic</author><text>After 10 years I still don&amp;#x27;t understand why I should switch away from X11. It is mature and is still being developed (latest xorg-server release is from January 2022). It does what I need.&lt;p&gt;From my perspective, Wayland is like btrfs - it doesn&amp;#x27;t seem to offer me anything major worth switching for, and there are still gotcha&amp;#x27;s lurking.</text></item><item><author>roenxi</author><text>It is unfortunate that so many of the early comments are negative. Either Wayland is the future, or something that learns from Wayland&amp;#x27;s mistakes and leverages its ideas is. There is a really fertile field right now for experimentation in the world of compositors but I think people have been scared away by the long dark era of X Windows + binary graphics drivers. Maybe we&amp;#x27;re going to see a lot more of it on HN in the next decade?&lt;p&gt;What kept me off Wayland was the screenshots thing, but the argument in favour of the idea is strong. The downside is Wayland&amp;#x27;s conception of permissions and interactions is too basic and crippled adoption for a few years but the fundamentals (blocking cross-application snooping) is going to be necessary. Operating systems have to be less trusting.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>3np</author><text>The two major points from my perspective would be security (like restricting read-access to the clipboard and input devices) and multi-DPI (like multihead with a 1080p laptop and a 4K monitor - seems practically impossible to get right under X).&lt;p&gt;EDIT: But as always, if you&amp;#x27;re happy with what you&amp;#x27;ve got, indeed why should you switch? I really don&amp;#x27;t get this idea of there being &amp;quot;the one-size-fits-all&amp;quot; and the urge to tell others what to do. A major point of Linux is your freedom to do things your way. OP is just telling others (who may have older now no longer relevant experiences) how much things have changed. No need to get defensive.</text></comment>