<story><title>Microsoft to Block Windows 11 Browser Workarounds</title><url>https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-11/259208/windows-11-to-block-windows-11-browser-workarounds</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gavinray</author><text>I upvoted you but I disagree with&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  &amp;quot;Then they get dragged through Linux&amp;#x27;s rough new user experience.&amp;quot;
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What distros do you feel have a poor experience for new Linux users?&lt;p&gt;Arch, Gentoo, etc -- yeah those are terrible recommendations for &amp;quot;I want to use Linux for the first time.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;The first Linux distro I installed, I was 14 and had grown up on Windows XP + Vista. I went with Linux Mint and it felt like Windows (the UX).&lt;p&gt;And that was a decade ago. Things were so much worse + more difficult on Linux then too.&lt;p&gt;You have distros now like ElementaryOS that are made to mimic OSx, which is about as &amp;quot;I dunno computers&amp;quot; as you can get.&lt;p&gt;And Ubuntu or any derivative like PopOS are also friendly and great first experiences.&lt;p&gt;This is all opinion of course.&lt;p&gt;-----&lt;p&gt;EDIT: For context&amp;#x2F;bias: posted this from Windows 11 Insider&lt;p&gt;Switched to Windows ~1 year ago, and mostly regret it. I had (what I consider) a better experience on Ubuntu&amp;#x2F;Pop with Regolith as a tiling WM. YMMV, etc.</text></item><item><author>rackjack</author><text>I previously stated:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Ah, the eternal cycle of: Microsoft does something bad, then people move to Linux, then they get dragged by Linux&amp;#x27;s rough new user experience, then they leave Linux, then things are fine for a while, then people mock Linux users for being paranoid, then Microsoft does something bad...&lt;p&gt;here: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=28971110&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=28971110&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Looks like we&amp;#x27;re going for another whirl around the cycle! Wheee!</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>betterunix2</author><text>I am an &lt;i&gt;experienced&lt;/i&gt; Linux user and I sometimes find myself wondering how much more I will put up with.  Oh, sorry, did you not like that unexpected UI change?  Fsck off, some GNOME developer decided to do it and you are not allowed to change it unless you install some random &amp;quot;extension&amp;quot; from some random developer on Reddit.  Oh, sorry, did you spend a day getting Pulseaudio to work as well as ALSA had worked?  Great news, Pulseaudio was replaced with PipeWire, which is &amp;quot;functionally compatible&amp;quot; but only for the specific configuration a handful of developers happened to have on their systems, so get ready to spend another day trying to get audio working.  Oh, you had a ZaphodHeads configuration working with Xorg for a few years?  Cool story bro, now we use Wayland, and it is definitely the same as X11 in all the ways &lt;i&gt;we&lt;/i&gt; care about, but that does not include anything like Zaphod, because we&amp;#x27;re busy with other stuff and anyway who cares about multihead systems?&lt;p&gt;I suppose that is what I get for using Fedora, which was supposedly Red Hat&amp;#x27;s &amp;quot;desktop strategy&amp;quot; but was never even remotely ready for a typical desktop user...</text></comment>
<story><title>Microsoft to Block Windows 11 Browser Workarounds</title><url>https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-11/259208/windows-11-to-block-windows-11-browser-workarounds</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gavinray</author><text>I upvoted you but I disagree with&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;  &amp;quot;Then they get dragged through Linux&amp;#x27;s rough new user experience.&amp;quot;
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What distros do you feel have a poor experience for new Linux users?&lt;p&gt;Arch, Gentoo, etc -- yeah those are terrible recommendations for &amp;quot;I want to use Linux for the first time.&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;The first Linux distro I installed, I was 14 and had grown up on Windows XP + Vista. I went with Linux Mint and it felt like Windows (the UX).&lt;p&gt;And that was a decade ago. Things were so much worse + more difficult on Linux then too.&lt;p&gt;You have distros now like ElementaryOS that are made to mimic OSx, which is about as &amp;quot;I dunno computers&amp;quot; as you can get.&lt;p&gt;And Ubuntu or any derivative like PopOS are also friendly and great first experiences.&lt;p&gt;This is all opinion of course.&lt;p&gt;-----&lt;p&gt;EDIT: For context&amp;#x2F;bias: posted this from Windows 11 Insider&lt;p&gt;Switched to Windows ~1 year ago, and mostly regret it. I had (what I consider) a better experience on Ubuntu&amp;#x2F;Pop with Regolith as a tiling WM. YMMV, etc.</text></item><item><author>rackjack</author><text>I previously stated:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Ah, the eternal cycle of: Microsoft does something bad, then people move to Linux, then they get dragged by Linux&amp;#x27;s rough new user experience, then they leave Linux, then things are fine for a while, then people mock Linux users for being paranoid, then Microsoft does something bad...&lt;p&gt;here: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=28971110&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=28971110&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Looks like we&amp;#x27;re going for another whirl around the cycle! Wheee!</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>pjmlp</author><text>Then the typical user goes into the shopping mal during the weekend, sees a nice gadget in sales, does an impulsive buy.&lt;p&gt;Back at home they wonder why it doesn&amp;#x27;t work at all.&lt;p&gt;After 30 years, unless one is deep into Linux technical knowledge and &amp;quot;search before buy&amp;quot;, that impulsive buy is going to end in tears.&lt;p&gt;Even with &amp;quot;search before buy&amp;quot; the adventure can turn out bad, because the device that apparently has Linux support, actually only works in specific serial numbers with the right firmware in place.</text></comment>