<story><title>Terms of Service, Didn&apos;t Read</title><url>https://tosdr.org/?repost</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>mcescalante</author><text>This site pops up here about once a year, and if I recall correctly, I often hear the sentiment of frustration with the whole way TOS works on the web. Here are 3 other past discussions HN has had about the site for anyone curious:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=5888393&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=5888393&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=4373610&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=4373610&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=4350907&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=4350907&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Terms of Service, Didn&apos;t Read</title><url>https://tosdr.org/?repost</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>belorn</author><text>Even those that are rated best, I doubt anyone can really explain the scope of the contract or each party&amp;#x27;s responsibilities without going into further details of my country&amp;#x27;s contract law, EU contract law, consumer protection laws, precedence and a few years of legal studies.&lt;p&gt;For example, when kolab says they should be, &amp;quot;To the extent permitted by the law&amp;quot;, be excluded from any liability and be completely indemnify from all and everything, what does that actually mean? What does that mean for fit-for-purpose, or quality assurance, or to use a Swedish contract law: fairness in the contractual terms?&lt;p&gt;Here we got a Class A contract which I have no clue &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt;, if anything, each party has agreed on. The only part I could reasonable figure as a contracted responsibility is that they will provide 30 days for customers to agree to the new terms if they decide to change prices. Also, customers are required by the contract to make private backups, which is quite an odd contractual responsibility to demand from customers. I doubt Kolab intended to be a contractual responsibility, but rather letting customers know whose responsibility it is to make backups if the customer wants that.</text></comment>