<story><title>Google&apos;s live from Paris event private/deleted immediately</title><text>Just watched the &amp;#x27;Google Live from Paris&amp;#x27; event and it looked like a non-event to me.&lt;p&gt;It seems that the livestream event was set private after it ended. (It was unlisted to begin with) They even forgot the phone used to demonstrate multisearch.&lt;p&gt;This suggests to me that Google is finally getting disrupted and are scrambling of desperation because of the release of ChatGPT.</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>rchaud</author><text>&amp;gt; Google is going to bleed credibility for every month that they don&amp;#x27;t have a lamda&amp;#x2F;llm enabled search integrated into the home page.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t know that end-users really care about having a GPT-written paragraph accompanying their search results. Is there some other kind of output AI search currently provides that I&amp;#x27;m missing?</text></item><item><author>htrp</author><text>&amp;gt; 2 years later the Bold was released and everyone realized it&amp;#x27;s just a hastily designed iPhone clone. That marks the end of BB&amp;#x27;s dominance.&lt;p&gt;I feel like Google is going to bleed credibility for every month that they don&amp;#x27;t have a lamda&amp;#x2F;llm enabled search integrated into the home page. You can talk all you want about the foundational models and how advanced they are, but the search product itself will require a ton of fine-tuning on real-world training data that they aren&amp;#x27;t collecting yet.&lt;p&gt;Unless Microsoft completely botches their &amp;quot;newBing&amp;quot; launch, this is probably the most potential they&amp;#x27;ve had in search since MSN was launched.</text></item><item><author>guardiangod</author><text>I hope Google is not pulling a Blackberry moment. I remember when the iPhone was first announced, BB scrambled to put out press releases saying they have competing products in development. 2 years later the Bold(EDIT: Storm) was released and everyone realized it&amp;#x27;s just a hastily designed iPhone clone. That marks the end of BB&amp;#x27;s dominance.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;Used to work for BB&amp;#x2F;RIM</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>onion2k</author><text>&lt;i&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t know that end-users really care about having a GPT-written paragraph accompanying their search results.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;For 90% of my searches I don&amp;#x27;t want &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; search results. I want a definitive, authoritative answer to a question. In the olden days of the web I had to figure out what to search to give me a website that would give me that answer as the first result, and in the mid-90s that was really hard because search was bad. In the late 90s when Google launched it got much easier, especially for things where there was a network of websites about a thing that all pointed to a canonical authority. PageRank found that authority source. Life was good.&lt;p&gt;Over the next 20 years the war between Google and SEO spammers meant finding things got a bit harder. Along with that Google&amp;#x27;s proliferation of adverts on their search result pages meant it actually became harder to even find the website link I wanted in the page itself. Fortunately Google also started putting knowledge graph things in the results and the sidebar which made life less painful.&lt;p&gt;I think we&amp;#x27;re due another shake-up, and Bing-GPT might be it. If they show me a simple paragraph of readable text that explains the answer to what I&amp;#x27;ve searched for then that would improve most of my searches. It&amp;#x27;d be like Google&amp;#x27;s knowledge graph box &lt;i&gt;but for everything&lt;/i&gt;.</text></comment>
<story><title>Google&apos;s live from Paris event private/deleted immediately</title><text>Just watched the &amp;#x27;Google Live from Paris&amp;#x27; event and it looked like a non-event to me.&lt;p&gt;It seems that the livestream event was set private after it ended. (It was unlisted to begin with) They even forgot the phone used to demonstrate multisearch.&lt;p&gt;This suggests to me that Google is finally getting disrupted and are scrambling of desperation because of the release of ChatGPT.</text></story><parent_chain><item><author>rchaud</author><text>&amp;gt; Google is going to bleed credibility for every month that they don&amp;#x27;t have a lamda&amp;#x2F;llm enabled search integrated into the home page.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t know that end-users really care about having a GPT-written paragraph accompanying their search results. Is there some other kind of output AI search currently provides that I&amp;#x27;m missing?</text></item><item><author>htrp</author><text>&amp;gt; 2 years later the Bold was released and everyone realized it&amp;#x27;s just a hastily designed iPhone clone. That marks the end of BB&amp;#x27;s dominance.&lt;p&gt;I feel like Google is going to bleed credibility for every month that they don&amp;#x27;t have a lamda&amp;#x2F;llm enabled search integrated into the home page. You can talk all you want about the foundational models and how advanced they are, but the search product itself will require a ton of fine-tuning on real-world training data that they aren&amp;#x27;t collecting yet.&lt;p&gt;Unless Microsoft completely botches their &amp;quot;newBing&amp;quot; launch, this is probably the most potential they&amp;#x27;ve had in search since MSN was launched.</text></item><item><author>guardiangod</author><text>I hope Google is not pulling a Blackberry moment. I remember when the iPhone was first announced, BB scrambled to put out press releases saying they have competing products in development. 2 years later the Bold(EDIT: Storm) was released and everyone realized it&amp;#x27;s just a hastily designed iPhone clone. That marks the end of BB&amp;#x27;s dominance.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;Used to work for BB&amp;#x2F;RIM</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Swizec</author><text>Here is a practical example of a problem I couldn’t solve with Google, but could in 5 seconds with GPT.&lt;p&gt;We use deities to name our sprints at work. When you search Google for “Deity starting with &amp;lt;letter&amp;gt;”, you get a list of greek and roman gods. I got tired of that.&lt;p&gt;So I asked GPT “what is a god that starts with &amp;lt;letter&amp;gt; and isn’t roman or greek”. It immediately spat out a Norse god. Next time it was Hindu. The increased variety was refreshing as hell. Google was &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; able to process a negative query.&lt;p&gt;Plus the added paragraph of description about that deity was lovely.&lt;p&gt;The point is: Sometimes (often) I don’t want search, I just want a good enough answer.</text></comment>