<story><title>Spotify, Ever the Fans of Openness</title><url>https://daringfireball.net/linked/2020/10/12/spotify-songshift</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>echelon</author><text>I fucking hate the modern Internet. Everybody takes and nobody gives. We&amp;#x27;ve regressed from the 90&amp;#x27;s&amp;#x2F;00&amp;#x27;s.&lt;p&gt;These platforms only care about lock-in. Spotify doesn&amp;#x27;t really add anything. The only convenience over Winamp is social sharing.&lt;p&gt;All of the platforms are catered to mass audiences anyway and suck for power users. They only want to extract money and are doing it the easiest way possible. Customers that don&amp;#x27;t complain about lack of features.&lt;p&gt;I posit that nobody in any of these orgs deeply cares about music.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>fractionalhare</author><text>The beauty of this comment is that it&amp;#x27;s probably serious, but it also perfectly satirizes HN&amp;#x27;s nostalgia for the 90s internet and software.&lt;p&gt;We started with Spotify pulling a douchey anticompetitive move, and ended up at&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;gt; Spotify doesn&amp;#x27;t really add anything. The only convenience over Winamp is social sharing.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Somewhere along the way we&amp;#x27;ve gotten lost. The only convenience of Spotify over Winamp is &amp;quot;social sharing&amp;quot;? Am I taking the bait here or do you actually believe this? &lt;i&gt;How&lt;/i&gt; can you believe this?&lt;p&gt;What about the convenience of being able to play a massive amount of music without having to download and store it on your device? What about facilitating new music discovery? How did you come up with social sharing of all things as the honorable mention Spotify has over Winamp, when the latter is desktop software that requires you to manage all your music on your own?&lt;p&gt;I can understand if you don&amp;#x27;t personally value Spotify because you like owning media with no restrictions. But I can&amp;#x27;t understand being in denial about inarguable, significant conveniences offered by the platform.</text></comment>
<story><title>Spotify, Ever the Fans of Openness</title><url>https://daringfireball.net/linked/2020/10/12/spotify-songshift</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>echelon</author><text>I fucking hate the modern Internet. Everybody takes and nobody gives. We&amp;#x27;ve regressed from the 90&amp;#x27;s&amp;#x2F;00&amp;#x27;s.&lt;p&gt;These platforms only care about lock-in. Spotify doesn&amp;#x27;t really add anything. The only convenience over Winamp is social sharing.&lt;p&gt;All of the platforms are catered to mass audiences anyway and suck for power users. They only want to extract money and are doing it the easiest way possible. Customers that don&amp;#x27;t complain about lack of features.&lt;p&gt;I posit that nobody in any of these orgs deeply cares about music.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>longerthoughts</author><text>&amp;gt; I posit that nobody in any of these orgs deeply cares about music.&lt;p&gt;I know people who work for “these orgs” and most (albeit not all) deeply care about music. Some were previously full-time musicians. Many make music as a passion&amp;#x2F;hobby but never pursued it professionally. Some are ashamed of or uncertain about the impact they’re having on music and the industry. Some seem to genuinely believe they’re helping push music forward. None of them are perfect stewards for music or the music industry, but none are the cold, greedy caricatures you’re imagining. I can only speak for the people I’ve met and they may not be representative, but the bar you set was “nobody” and it’s just not that simple.</text></comment>