<story><title>Microsoft bakes a VPN into Edge and turns it on</title><url>https://adguard-vpn.com/en/blog/vpn-built-browser-microsoft.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>smoldesu</author><text>Chrome owns the internet because people like Brave don&amp;#x27;t develop their own browser engine.</text></item><item><author>Entinel</author><text>This line of thinking is why Chrome owns most of the internet. No one else can hope to compete because they just get screeched down.</text></item><item><author>smoldesu</author><text>Using a browser that monetizes itself in &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; way seems like a slippery slope to me. I&amp;#x27;d rather use Ungoogled Chromium&amp;#x2F;Bromite or even LibreWolf if it came down to it. Saying &amp;quot;that&amp;#x27;s it, I&amp;#x27;m moving to Brave!&amp;quot; is basically declaring that you&amp;#x27;re moving your data from Microsoft(1) to Microsoft(2).</text></item><item><author>princevegeta89</author><text>Besides the unremovable junk they fill on the homepage, now this. 
Uninstalled and will be moving to Brave</text></item><item><author>deviantbit</author><text>The reason you have a bad feeling is it gives the FBI&amp;#x2F;FEDS a single point to collect your data, with a man-in-the-middle attack that you will have no idea is there.&lt;p&gt;This is absolute BS they&amp;#x27;re implementing this.</text></item><item><author>andrewstuart2</author><text>Why do I always get a bad feeling about the motivations behind stuff like this? I want to believe it&amp;#x27;s for better privacy and security, but it&amp;#x27;s being driven by a corporation or two, and that makes me 100% suspicious. Like, for example, suddenly Edge is no longer respecting local DNS options and my pihole protects one fewer device from the real dangers to privacy. I don&amp;#x27;t want to be cynical so often, but this really doesn&amp;#x27;t feel like a benevolent move. Yeah, it&amp;#x27;s conditional at the moment, but as with Chrome and manifest v3, among many other examples, I&amp;#x27;m losing my faith that anything with the potential to increase ad revenue will remain turned off for long.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>NotPractical</author><text>Exactly. Brave just takes Chromium (from Google) and adds weird crypto stuff to it. None of the Chromium forks are &amp;quot;different browsers&amp;quot; in my eyes. They all depend on upstream for everything important. They couldn&amp;#x27;t develop the browser on their own.&lt;p&gt;Just use Firefox. It works just as well as Chrome (*), but it&amp;#x27;s based on a completely different engine which was built from the ground up.&lt;p&gt;(*) On desktop at least (on Android I still use a Chromium fork for now)</text></comment>
<story><title>Microsoft bakes a VPN into Edge and turns it on</title><url>https://adguard-vpn.com/en/blog/vpn-built-browser-microsoft.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>smoldesu</author><text>Chrome owns the internet because people like Brave don&amp;#x27;t develop their own browser engine.</text></item><item><author>Entinel</author><text>This line of thinking is why Chrome owns most of the internet. No one else can hope to compete because they just get screeched down.</text></item><item><author>smoldesu</author><text>Using a browser that monetizes itself in &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; way seems like a slippery slope to me. I&amp;#x27;d rather use Ungoogled Chromium&amp;#x2F;Bromite or even LibreWolf if it came down to it. Saying &amp;quot;that&amp;#x27;s it, I&amp;#x27;m moving to Brave!&amp;quot; is basically declaring that you&amp;#x27;re moving your data from Microsoft(1) to Microsoft(2).</text></item><item><author>princevegeta89</author><text>Besides the unremovable junk they fill on the homepage, now this. 
Uninstalled and will be moving to Brave</text></item><item><author>deviantbit</author><text>The reason you have a bad feeling is it gives the FBI&amp;#x2F;FEDS a single point to collect your data, with a man-in-the-middle attack that you will have no idea is there.&lt;p&gt;This is absolute BS they&amp;#x27;re implementing this.</text></item><item><author>andrewstuart2</author><text>Why do I always get a bad feeling about the motivations behind stuff like this? I want to believe it&amp;#x27;s for better privacy and security, but it&amp;#x27;s being driven by a corporation or two, and that makes me 100% suspicious. Like, for example, suddenly Edge is no longer respecting local DNS options and my pihole protects one fewer device from the real dangers to privacy. I don&amp;#x27;t want to be cynical so often, but this really doesn&amp;#x27;t feel like a benevolent move. Yeah, it&amp;#x27;s conditional at the moment, but as with Chrome and manifest v3, among many other examples, I&amp;#x27;m losing my faith that anything with the potential to increase ad revenue will remain turned off for long.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>marshray</author><text>Chrome owns the internet because web standards have become so complex that not even Microsoft can afford to maintain their own browser engine.</text></comment>