<story><title>China again boosts R&amp;D spending by more than 10%</title><url>https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/08/china-again-boosts-rd-spending-more-10</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gamblor956</author><text>A lot of that IP was stolen from US and EU companies.&lt;p&gt;Cost isn&amp;#x27;t the only reason that manufacturing is moving out of China; companies are finally realizing that using Chinese factories is tantamount to giving the PRC access to all of your technical IP.</text></item><item><author>bserge</author><text>At the very least we know Chinese companies (and by extension, the government) do indeed spend a lot on research, development and production.&lt;p&gt;The sheer amount of tech made and shipped from China is astonishing. And the quality has massively improved, while prices stay low. Everything from amazing BGA reballing stations to high quality solar panels and power tools.</text></item><item><author>rvba</author><text>Can those numbers be trusted?&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;foreignpolicy.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;21&amp;#x2F;nobody-knows-anything-about-china&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;foreignpolicy.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;21&amp;#x2F;nobody-knows-anything-a...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>arcticbull</author><text>That&amp;#x27;s an incredibly short-sighted way of looking at what&amp;#x27;s happening. If you want to become a Chef, you don&amp;#x27;t start by inventing new Michelin star dishes de novo. You copy your betters. Over and over and over. Then, once you learn how they do what they do, you innovate.&lt;p&gt;Japan did this. Do not underestimate China.</text></comment>
<story><title>China again boosts R&amp;D spending by more than 10%</title><url>https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/08/china-again-boosts-rd-spending-more-10</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>gamblor956</author><text>A lot of that IP was stolen from US and EU companies.&lt;p&gt;Cost isn&amp;#x27;t the only reason that manufacturing is moving out of China; companies are finally realizing that using Chinese factories is tantamount to giving the PRC access to all of your technical IP.</text></item><item><author>bserge</author><text>At the very least we know Chinese companies (and by extension, the government) do indeed spend a lot on research, development and production.&lt;p&gt;The sheer amount of tech made and shipped from China is astonishing. And the quality has massively improved, while prices stay low. Everything from amazing BGA reballing stations to high quality solar panels and power tools.</text></item><item><author>rvba</author><text>Can those numbers be trusted?&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;foreignpolicy.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;21&amp;#x2F;nobody-knows-anything-about-china&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;foreignpolicy.com&amp;#x2F;2018&amp;#x2F;03&amp;#x2F;21&amp;#x2F;nobody-knows-anything-a...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>0_____0</author><text>was the same not true with Japan? at some point China may move past Western nations in practical sophistication, and start making better stuff.&lt;p&gt;example: you want a photography drone? Like, the best commerical one available? It&amp;#x27;s a Chinese product. Most of the other stuff on the market doesn&amp;#x27;t come close. The closest we had domestically in the US was 3D systems, and then went under if I recall correctly.</text></comment>