<story><title>Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind Tesla</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-09-01/porsche-boss-faces-software-woes-keeping-vw-steps-behind-tesla-tsla</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dependsontheq</author><text>I wouldn&amp;#x27;t call it &amp;quot;woes&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;I have been driving an VW ID 3 since last year, it runs their custom Android OS System and should have all of the latest features. It has been quite an experience.&lt;p&gt;The car is fine, basic driving functions are fine, even the driver assist features are generally fine if they are running.&lt;p&gt;The software running all the displays and the &amp;quot;augmented&amp;quot; heads up display is ridiculous.&lt;p&gt;The car one did shut down all displays (including speed) while driving on the Autobahn (error message: no input), I stopped in the next town, charging the car was no longer possible. I tried to find out how to do hard reboot, my wife found a thread in a forum, &amp;quot;leave the car with all smart keys, go at least 50 meters from the car, wait for 15 minutes&amp;quot;. That did the trick.&lt;p&gt;Sometimes the voice recognition comes on and does something weird, I have no idea why or what it tries to do, sometimes it starts a specific radio station, it has not once recognized anything I said.&lt;p&gt;Some Update added a blue light glowing in front of the driver in the small LED strip, it just ominously glows for a second. It looks a bit like a warning, I have no idea what it is warning about, it just happens sometimes.&lt;p&gt;Sometimes in the night the alarm starts and wakes the neighborhood, but I was able to solve that by disabling the proximity features in the smart key system.&lt;p&gt;The navigation forgets that I can charge the car at home after every update. 20 kilometers before I am home it recommends I should charge for 2 hours.&lt;p&gt;The UI&amp;#x2F;UX is unintuitive and ugly. It shows a lot of useless information in weird places and a lot of stuff is hard to find.&lt;p&gt;The list of weird experiences I had with this car is endless, and a lot of is just just bad software development, like the issue on the Autobahn.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Gordonjcp</author><text>I&amp;#x27;ve been driving a 27-year-old Range Rover for a year. Sometimes I need to hold the ignition key close to the receiver in the rear window for it to lock. Sometimes I need to jiggle the steering lock a little for the flappy door to close and tell it the key is out, before it will lock. Sometimes I need to poke the &amp;quot;petrol flap&amp;quot; button a couple of times before the flap will open.&lt;p&gt;Sometimes the radio doesn&amp;#x27;t really get a good signal on Radio 4 and I need to press the SEEK button on the steering wheel.&lt;p&gt;The dashboard displays were fuzzy and hard-to-read, but I wiped the dust off and they were fine. They did go totally dark once when I was fiddling with the brightness control, but I turned them back on.&lt;p&gt;It has never need rebooted. It has never forgotten how to be fuelled up. It has never just turned off all its electronics at speed on the motorway. The UI doesn&amp;#x27;t show any information beyond speed, engine RPM, coolant temperature and fuel level, unless there&amp;#x27;s some sort of fault indication up.&lt;p&gt;I am really not convinced about buying a modern car.&lt;p&gt;(My last car was also a 27-year-old Range Rover, which I still have)</text></comment>
<story><title>Porsche boss faces software woes keeping VW a step behind Tesla</title><url>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-09-01/porsche-boss-faces-software-woes-keeping-vw-steps-behind-tesla-tsla</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dependsontheq</author><text>I wouldn&amp;#x27;t call it &amp;quot;woes&amp;quot;.&lt;p&gt;I have been driving an VW ID 3 since last year, it runs their custom Android OS System and should have all of the latest features. It has been quite an experience.&lt;p&gt;The car is fine, basic driving functions are fine, even the driver assist features are generally fine if they are running.&lt;p&gt;The software running all the displays and the &amp;quot;augmented&amp;quot; heads up display is ridiculous.&lt;p&gt;The car one did shut down all displays (including speed) while driving on the Autobahn (error message: no input), I stopped in the next town, charging the car was no longer possible. I tried to find out how to do hard reboot, my wife found a thread in a forum, &amp;quot;leave the car with all smart keys, go at least 50 meters from the car, wait for 15 minutes&amp;quot;. That did the trick.&lt;p&gt;Sometimes the voice recognition comes on and does something weird, I have no idea why or what it tries to do, sometimes it starts a specific radio station, it has not once recognized anything I said.&lt;p&gt;Some Update added a blue light glowing in front of the driver in the small LED strip, it just ominously glows for a second. It looks a bit like a warning, I have no idea what it is warning about, it just happens sometimes.&lt;p&gt;Sometimes in the night the alarm starts and wakes the neighborhood, but I was able to solve that by disabling the proximity features in the smart key system.&lt;p&gt;The navigation forgets that I can charge the car at home after every update. 20 kilometers before I am home it recommends I should charge for 2 hours.&lt;p&gt;The UI&amp;#x2F;UX is unintuitive and ugly. It shows a lot of useless information in weird places and a lot of stuff is hard to find.&lt;p&gt;The list of weird experiences I had with this car is endless, and a lot of is just just bad software development, like the issue on the Autobahn.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>temac</author><text>Some of the bugs and ergonomics problem you describe seem dangerous. The regulators should come in and ban those cars until they are fixed.</text></comment>