<story><title>Weight-based motor vehicle tax</title><url>https://www.skatteetaten.no/en/rates/weight-based-motor-vehicle-tax/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mywittyname</author><text>Guy with Lambo telling normies what they &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;.  Sounds like yet another out-of-touch rich __ telling people how they should live their lives while living large himself.&lt;p&gt;I recently replaced my aging Prius with a Rav4, and the versatility improvement is so dramatic.  We went from renting&amp;#x2F;borrowing trucks and vans about every month to not needing one yet.  The extra few inches in every direction multiplies together to be rather significant.  Plus, it has a roof rack.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ll hang onto my sports cars, but my daily driver is forever going to be a crossover.  This thing beats every hatchback, liftback, sedan, and wagon I&amp;#x27;ve ever owned in every utility metric.</text></item><item><author>robbyking</author><text>What&amp;#x27;s interesting to me is that in my experience most car enthusiasts feel the same way.&lt;p&gt;Even though I don&amp;#x27;t have a lot of interest in car culture, I&amp;#x27;m a big fan of the Smoking Tire Podcast, and the host -- who has his own Porches, Lamborghinis, etc. -- has said multiple times that he thinks &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; people who drive trucks would be better off in a station wagon, and &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; people who drive SUVs would be better off in a sedan (edit: he actually said minivan, not sedan). (His daily driver around LA is a scooter.)&lt;p&gt;Obviously there are exceptions, but it makes sense to commute in a commuter car.</text></item><item><author>tristor</author><text>Ironically, as a car enthusiast, I&amp;#x27;d love to see something like this.  I hate our current timeline where everyone drives a shitty crossover, manufacturers have stopped making cars altogether in favor of shitty crossovers and trucks, and it&amp;#x27;s more dangerous to drive my fun small sports cars, which ironically produce less emissions despite being performance-oriented vehicles. It is not efficient to drive a massive brick on wheels.  It is also dangerous to other road users, and it subtlety leads to the psychology which increases road rage, on top of all of that it increases road wear and tire wear both of which lead to other forms of pollution (including microplastics).&lt;p&gt;Things are better in road environments where most drivers are in smaller vehicles.  I love toodling around in a sports car in Europe.  It&amp;#x27;s deeply painful in the US, especially in locales where the typical vehicle is a lifted truck that has a bumper height higher than the top of my head when in my car.  There&amp;#x27;s way too many vehicles on American roadways that are literally &amp;#x2F;all&amp;#x2F; negative from a societal perspective, and nearly all bad from a personal perspective, that people bought due to perverse incentives impacting manufacturing and pricing.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tristor</author><text>Small crossovers (CUVs) like the RAV4 are literally hatchbacks that are lifted.  How does this beat a hatchback in any way?  An equivalent volume hatchback has all of the exact same utility, and has better driving dynamics and is safer due to a lower center of gravity.&lt;p&gt;The main reason people like driving crossovers is that it raises their seating and viewing height relative to other vehicles on the road because we&amp;#x27;re in one of the dumbest arms races ever with vehicle height, where anybody who buys a sensible car loses.</text></comment>
<story><title>Weight-based motor vehicle tax</title><url>https://www.skatteetaten.no/en/rates/weight-based-motor-vehicle-tax/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>mywittyname</author><text>Guy with Lambo telling normies what they &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;.  Sounds like yet another out-of-touch rich __ telling people how they should live their lives while living large himself.&lt;p&gt;I recently replaced my aging Prius with a Rav4, and the versatility improvement is so dramatic.  We went from renting&amp;#x2F;borrowing trucks and vans about every month to not needing one yet.  The extra few inches in every direction multiplies together to be rather significant.  Plus, it has a roof rack.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;ll hang onto my sports cars, but my daily driver is forever going to be a crossover.  This thing beats every hatchback, liftback, sedan, and wagon I&amp;#x27;ve ever owned in every utility metric.</text></item><item><author>robbyking</author><text>What&amp;#x27;s interesting to me is that in my experience most car enthusiasts feel the same way.&lt;p&gt;Even though I don&amp;#x27;t have a lot of interest in car culture, I&amp;#x27;m a big fan of the Smoking Tire Podcast, and the host -- who has his own Porches, Lamborghinis, etc. -- has said multiple times that he thinks &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; people who drive trucks would be better off in a station wagon, and &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; people who drive SUVs would be better off in a sedan (edit: he actually said minivan, not sedan). (His daily driver around LA is a scooter.)&lt;p&gt;Obviously there are exceptions, but it makes sense to commute in a commuter car.</text></item><item><author>tristor</author><text>Ironically, as a car enthusiast, I&amp;#x27;d love to see something like this.  I hate our current timeline where everyone drives a shitty crossover, manufacturers have stopped making cars altogether in favor of shitty crossovers and trucks, and it&amp;#x27;s more dangerous to drive my fun small sports cars, which ironically produce less emissions despite being performance-oriented vehicles. It is not efficient to drive a massive brick on wheels.  It is also dangerous to other road users, and it subtlety leads to the psychology which increases road rage, on top of all of that it increases road wear and tire wear both of which lead to other forms of pollution (including microplastics).&lt;p&gt;Things are better in road environments where most drivers are in smaller vehicles.  I love toodling around in a sports car in Europe.  It&amp;#x27;s deeply painful in the US, especially in locales where the typical vehicle is a lifted truck that has a bumper height higher than the top of my head when in my car.  There&amp;#x27;s way too many vehicles on American roadways that are literally &amp;#x2F;all&amp;#x2F; negative from a societal perspective, and nearly all bad from a personal perspective, that people bought due to perverse incentives impacting manufacturing and pricing.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jewayne</author><text>I drive a crossover myself, but if you do the math, driving a cheap sedan and renting a truck when you need it is often WAY cheaper.&lt;p&gt;I remember when a neighbor bought a new washer&amp;#x2F;dryer and gave their old set away to whoever would haul it away. A couple came to get it in one of those huge late-model bro-dozer pickups. This was a ~$60K vehicle. All I could think is that there&amp;#x27;s NO WAY that couple was ever going to score enough free stuff to make up what they spent on that vehicle.</text></comment>