<story><title>Is wine fake?</title><url>https://asteriskmag.com/issues/1/is-wine-fake</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>hn_throwaway_99</author><text>Two scientific points to bring up about this article:&lt;p&gt;1. When the author talks about Coke vs. Pepsi, he comes to the conclusion that the reason people prefer Pepsi in blind taste tests but Coke in unblinded ones is &amp;quot;Think of it as the brain combining two sources of input to make a final taste perception: the actual taste of the two sodas and a preconceived notion (probably based on great marketing) that Coke should taste better.&amp;quot; I&amp;#x27;ve read elsewhere, though, that the reason for this difference is actually because of the difference between &amp;quot;sip tests&amp;quot; vs. &amp;quot;drinking tests&amp;quot;. Pepsi is objectively sweeter than Coke, so if you&amp;#x27;re just taking a few quick sips (as most taste tests are set up), you may prefer the sweeter taste of Pepsi because it stands out more, but if you&amp;#x27;re drinking a whole bunch, the sweeter taste of Pepsi can feel cloying.&lt;p&gt;2. The article includes this quote, &amp;quot;the correlation between price and overall rating is small and negative, suggesting that individuals on average enjoy more expensive wines slightly less.&amp;quot; I wonder if this could be due to Berkon&amp;#x27;s paradox, a statistical paradox that was on the HN front page yesterday, &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=33677781&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=33677781&lt;/a&gt;. After all, I&amp;#x27;m guessing most truly bad wines may not be rated at all.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>chrisseaton</author><text>A joke in the UK is that the unofficial slogan of Pepsi is &amp;#x27;yeah fine whatever mate&amp;#x27; because when you order Coca-Cola in a pub and they (for some reason) stock Pepsi instead they always have to ask &amp;#x27;is Pepsi ok?&amp;#x27;.</text></comment>
<story><title>Is wine fake?</title><url>https://asteriskmag.com/issues/1/is-wine-fake</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>hn_throwaway_99</author><text>Two scientific points to bring up about this article:&lt;p&gt;1. When the author talks about Coke vs. Pepsi, he comes to the conclusion that the reason people prefer Pepsi in blind taste tests but Coke in unblinded ones is &amp;quot;Think of it as the brain combining two sources of input to make a final taste perception: the actual taste of the two sodas and a preconceived notion (probably based on great marketing) that Coke should taste better.&amp;quot; I&amp;#x27;ve read elsewhere, though, that the reason for this difference is actually because of the difference between &amp;quot;sip tests&amp;quot; vs. &amp;quot;drinking tests&amp;quot;. Pepsi is objectively sweeter than Coke, so if you&amp;#x27;re just taking a few quick sips (as most taste tests are set up), you may prefer the sweeter taste of Pepsi because it stands out more, but if you&amp;#x27;re drinking a whole bunch, the sweeter taste of Pepsi can feel cloying.&lt;p&gt;2. The article includes this quote, &amp;quot;the correlation between price and overall rating is small and negative, suggesting that individuals on average enjoy more expensive wines slightly less.&amp;quot; I wonder if this could be due to Berkon&amp;#x27;s paradox, a statistical paradox that was on the HN front page yesterday, &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=33677781&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=33677781&lt;/a&gt;. After all, I&amp;#x27;m guessing most truly bad wines may not be rated at all.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>googlryas</author><text>My cousin who was one of the people giving the challenge also said they were always supposed to give Pepsi second, because after the bitterness of the coke first, the relative sweetness of Pepsi would be slightly refreshing, even if the drinker liked the bitter taste</text></comment>