<story><title>Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy</title><url>https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/downtown-empty-offices-business-tech-17911258.php</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dffdsa432</author><text>The most violent cities in America are all blue cities.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;worldpopulationreview.com&amp;#x2F;us-city-rankings&amp;#x2F;most-violent-cities-in-america&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;worldpopulationreview.com&amp;#x2F;us-city-rankings&amp;#x2F;most-viol...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>CapstanRoller</author><text>Mass shootings aren&amp;#x27;t correlated with poverty. Guns are expensive.&lt;p&gt;Most mass shooters are disaffected folks in the &amp;quot;middle class&amp;quot; who have money to acquire weapons (or access to weapons via relatives) and time to spend immersing themselves in online right-wing cesspits.&lt;p&gt;Actual poor people are too busy trying to grind and survive.</text></item><item><author>oatmeal1</author><text>Avoiding red states to avoid being shot would be extremely dumb for many reasons.&lt;p&gt;1. Cities and neighborhoods in any state can be safe, even in the states with the most shootings&lt;p&gt;2. If you have enough money to choose to live in another state, you&amp;#x27;re probably not going to be living in an extremely poor area that is the most likely to be beset with gun violence&lt;p&gt;3. Other commonplace things are much more likely to kill you than being shot (cars, for example).</text></item><item><author>Tiktaalik</author><text>The thing is that personal politics don&amp;#x27;t end up being a personal thing because they result in real policies that guide real material outcomes.&lt;p&gt;At this point saying one is uninterested in living in a red state could be about party politics, but it also could just as much about not being inclined to subject onesself to starkly higher risks of being shot and killed (the outcome of someone&amp;#x27;s personal politics).&lt;p&gt;eg. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.politico.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;magazine&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;23&amp;#x2F;surprising-geography-of-gun-violence-00092413&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.politico.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;magazine&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;23&amp;#x2F;surprising...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; In reality, the region the Big Apple comprises most of is far and away the safest part of the U.S. mainland when it comes to gun violence, while the regions Florida and Texas belong to have per capita firearm death rates (homicides and suicides) three to four times higher than New York’s. On a regional basis it’s the southern swath of the country — in cities and rural areas alike — where the rate of deadly gun violence is most acute, regions where Republicans have dominated state governments for decades.</text></item><item><author>bityard</author><text>Personal politics, IMO, is not a good reason to avoid living in certain areas. I&amp;#x27;m a liberal-leaning moderate but many of my favorite people (friends and family) are conservative, and many of my hobbies tend to be populated mainly by the conservative demographic. You&amp;#x27;ll always find people here and there who won&amp;#x27;t give you the time of day if you&amp;#x27;re not on Team Blue or Team Red, but my take on it is, if I can&amp;#x27;t make friends with people who hold beliefs different from my own, then maybe I&amp;#x27;m the asshole.&lt;p&gt;That said, if it really matters that much to you, you&amp;#x27;ll find plenty of swing states with mid-sized cities in the Midwest. Upsides are low cost of living, 20 minutes from the center of the city to cornfields. Downsides are you can&amp;#x27;t go too far north if you don&amp;#x27;t like cold winters.&lt;p&gt;No area is thriving right now thanks to the recession, but it sounds like you are aiming for remote work anyway, so why does that matter? If I were in your shoes, I would pick a place that has the geography, climate, and cost of living I am looking for and not worry so much about the politics and economic prospects of the area.</text></item><item><author>SeanAnderson</author><text>I live in SF and spend a fair amount of time thinking about its poor 5-year economic outlook. It&amp;#x27;s not great, but I am curious how it compares to other metros?&lt;p&gt;If I were to move from SF, wanted to live in a metro area, and was uncomfortable living in a very red state - where should I consider? Where is thriving? I have a good amount of friends in Portland, but Portland is adjacent SF in terms of poor economic recovery and it&amp;#x27;s not especially tech-focused. So, I think there&amp;#x27;s at least a bit more at play here.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s a seismic shift occurring with WFH, Starlink, etc. Yes, San Francisco is near the bottom of many post-Covid economic recovery lists, but are there other metros that are on sound financial footing if 30%+ of their populace chooses a more suburban&amp;#x2F;rural lifestyle?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mikeryan</author><text>Shit.  Your own source disproves that if you use the most recent data&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;worldpopulationreview.com&amp;#x2F;us-city-rankings&amp;#x2F;most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;worldpopulationreview.com&amp;#x2F;us-city-rankings&amp;#x2F;most-dang...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;Take off the minimum population requirement of 100k residents and the most dangerous metro areas are all small, rural conservative towns.  &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.statista.com&amp;#x2F;statistics&amp;#x2F;433603&amp;#x2F;us-metropolitan-areas-with-the-highest-violent-crime-rate&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.statista.com&amp;#x2F;statistics&amp;#x2F;433603&amp;#x2F;us-metropolitan-a...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy</title><url>https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/downtown-empty-offices-business-tech-17911258.php</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dffdsa432</author><text>The most violent cities in America are all blue cities.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;worldpopulationreview.com&amp;#x2F;us-city-rankings&amp;#x2F;most-violent-cities-in-america&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;worldpopulationreview.com&amp;#x2F;us-city-rankings&amp;#x2F;most-viol...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>CapstanRoller</author><text>Mass shootings aren&amp;#x27;t correlated with poverty. Guns are expensive.&lt;p&gt;Most mass shooters are disaffected folks in the &amp;quot;middle class&amp;quot; who have money to acquire weapons (or access to weapons via relatives) and time to spend immersing themselves in online right-wing cesspits.&lt;p&gt;Actual poor people are too busy trying to grind and survive.</text></item><item><author>oatmeal1</author><text>Avoiding red states to avoid being shot would be extremely dumb for many reasons.&lt;p&gt;1. Cities and neighborhoods in any state can be safe, even in the states with the most shootings&lt;p&gt;2. If you have enough money to choose to live in another state, you&amp;#x27;re probably not going to be living in an extremely poor area that is the most likely to be beset with gun violence&lt;p&gt;3. Other commonplace things are much more likely to kill you than being shot (cars, for example).</text></item><item><author>Tiktaalik</author><text>The thing is that personal politics don&amp;#x27;t end up being a personal thing because they result in real policies that guide real material outcomes.&lt;p&gt;At this point saying one is uninterested in living in a red state could be about party politics, but it also could just as much about not being inclined to subject onesself to starkly higher risks of being shot and killed (the outcome of someone&amp;#x27;s personal politics).&lt;p&gt;eg. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.politico.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;magazine&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;23&amp;#x2F;surprising-geography-of-gun-violence-00092413&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.politico.com&amp;#x2F;news&amp;#x2F;magazine&amp;#x2F;2023&amp;#x2F;04&amp;#x2F;23&amp;#x2F;surprising...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; In reality, the region the Big Apple comprises most of is far and away the safest part of the U.S. mainland when it comes to gun violence, while the regions Florida and Texas belong to have per capita firearm death rates (homicides and suicides) three to four times higher than New York’s. On a regional basis it’s the southern swath of the country — in cities and rural areas alike — where the rate of deadly gun violence is most acute, regions where Republicans have dominated state governments for decades.</text></item><item><author>bityard</author><text>Personal politics, IMO, is not a good reason to avoid living in certain areas. I&amp;#x27;m a liberal-leaning moderate but many of my favorite people (friends and family) are conservative, and many of my hobbies tend to be populated mainly by the conservative demographic. You&amp;#x27;ll always find people here and there who won&amp;#x27;t give you the time of day if you&amp;#x27;re not on Team Blue or Team Red, but my take on it is, if I can&amp;#x27;t make friends with people who hold beliefs different from my own, then maybe I&amp;#x27;m the asshole.&lt;p&gt;That said, if it really matters that much to you, you&amp;#x27;ll find plenty of swing states with mid-sized cities in the Midwest. Upsides are low cost of living, 20 minutes from the center of the city to cornfields. Downsides are you can&amp;#x27;t go too far north if you don&amp;#x27;t like cold winters.&lt;p&gt;No area is thriving right now thanks to the recession, but it sounds like you are aiming for remote work anyway, so why does that matter? If I were in your shoes, I would pick a place that has the geography, climate, and cost of living I am looking for and not worry so much about the politics and economic prospects of the area.</text></item><item><author>SeanAnderson</author><text>I live in SF and spend a fair amount of time thinking about its poor 5-year economic outlook. It&amp;#x27;s not great, but I am curious how it compares to other metros?&lt;p&gt;If I were to move from SF, wanted to live in a metro area, and was uncomfortable living in a very red state - where should I consider? Where is thriving? I have a good amount of friends in Portland, but Portland is adjacent SF in terms of poor economic recovery and it&amp;#x27;s not especially tech-focused. So, I think there&amp;#x27;s at least a bit more at play here.&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#x27;s a seismic shift occurring with WFH, Starlink, etc. Yes, San Francisco is near the bottom of many post-Covid economic recovery lists, but are there other metros that are on sound financial footing if 30%+ of their populace chooses a more suburban&amp;#x2F;rural lifestyle?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>theironhammer</author><text>And most of that is done by drug dealers fighting over turf. The shootings are highly concentrated in certain geographic areas.</text></comment>