<story><title>macOS unable to open any non-Apple application</title><url>https://twitter.com/lapcatsoftware/status/1326990296412991489</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nightowl_games</author><text>Yeah so basically in the windows world, a lot of the good laptops are under the &amp;quot;business class&amp;quot; of the various manufacturers:&lt;p&gt;Dell Precision, HP Elite Book, MSI Prestige&lt;p&gt;In the consumer world the Dell XPS, Asus Zenbook, Asus Pro Art are the way to go for a designer.&lt;p&gt;Dell Precision is probably the overall best laptop. MSI Prestige is targetted right at you though, with color accuracy and a good display. The only brand I can personally vouch for is Dell. I and my partner use XPS&amp;#x27;s, and a good friend of mine has a super nice Precision that I am jealous of (specifically the ports! I&amp;#x27;m so over USB-C)</text></item><item><author>areoform</author><text>So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It&amp;#x27;s fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=25058952&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=25058952&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;And this is why I won&amp;#x27;t be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to &amp;quot;no unsigned binaries&amp;quot;), and congrats! Apple is the sole decider of what we get to use on our computers.&lt;p&gt;Of course Apple&amp;#x27;s Craig Federighi assures us that the people making such assertions are &amp;quot;tools&amp;quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;youtu.be&amp;#x2F;Hg9F1Qjv3iU?t=3177&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;youtu.be&amp;#x2F;Hg9F1Qjv3iU?t=3177&lt;/a&gt; , timestamp 53:33) and they have no intention whatsoever of taking away our ability to do general compute on the machines we buy and own.&lt;p&gt;Except...&lt;p&gt;Apple can already decide what binaries you can execute. Should they choose to.&lt;p&gt;Apple is now restricting what other OSes you can boot into. As they&amp;#x27;ve chosen to.&lt;p&gt;Apple can now make their machine reject a new, third-party repair part like a bad transplant. Should they choose to.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s clear where they&amp;#x27;re going. And I&amp;#x27;m jumping ship. It&amp;#x27;s painful to do so, given how invested I am in the ecosystem, but we&amp;#x27;re already beyond the threshold that many of us would have left earlier in the decade.&lt;p&gt;---&lt;p&gt;edit - It&amp;#x27;s also really hard as a designer + developer + would-be researcher in the making to find a good computer. Most non-Apple laptops don&amp;#x27;t have very good color accuracy. They also don&amp;#x27;t have good trackpads, and their keyboard + trackpad alignment is wonky (it&amp;#x27;s off-center in a lot of cases! How weird is that???)&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m trying to find a laptop with good build quality, long battery life, a good display that I can design on, a good trackpad so that I don&amp;#x27;t have to carry around a mouse, good speakers would be a plus, and light enough that I don&amp;#x27;t feel like I&amp;#x27;m lifting weights while working on my laptop. And this package should ideally come with 512GB of SSD storage and, at least, 16GB to 32GB of RAM.&lt;p&gt;Oh and it shouldn&amp;#x27;t be &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; expensive than a Mac as many of these laptops are!&lt;p&gt;Any suggestions?</text></item><item><author>submeta</author><text>Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago.&lt;p&gt;Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&amp;#x2F;llanga&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1326989724704268289&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&amp;#x2F;llanga&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1326989724704268289&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so, the entire operating system grinds to a halt.&lt;p&gt;EDIT:&lt;p&gt;As others pointed out, I put this to my `&amp;#x2F;etc&amp;#x2F;hosts` file and refreshed it like so:&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;    sudo emacs &amp;#x2F;etc&amp;#x2F;hosts # add `0.0.0.0 ocsp.apple.com` 
    sudo dscacheutil -flushcache; sudo killall -HUP mDNSResponder # refresh hosts&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>LeifCarrotson</author><text>Lenovo Thinkpad is another popular line, seems conspicuously absent from your list. They&amp;#x27;re known to have good resale value, and to work well with Linux. If you&amp;#x27;re getting up to the Precision line, the Lenovo P series workstations are also worth considering, though given they&amp;#x27;re actually professional-grade machines with Xeon and Quadro parts they&amp;#x27;ll be more expensive than a Macbook Pro.&lt;p&gt;There are also boutiques like System76, that white label, upgrade, and manage driver compatibility for Clevo laptops which may be worth considering, they just came out with a new Lemur Pro like yesterday.</text></comment>
<story><title>macOS unable to open any non-Apple application</title><url>https://twitter.com/lapcatsoftware/status/1326990296412991489</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>nightowl_games</author><text>Yeah so basically in the windows world, a lot of the good laptops are under the &amp;quot;business class&amp;quot; of the various manufacturers:&lt;p&gt;Dell Precision, HP Elite Book, MSI Prestige&lt;p&gt;In the consumer world the Dell XPS, Asus Zenbook, Asus Pro Art are the way to go for a designer.&lt;p&gt;Dell Precision is probably the overall best laptop. MSI Prestige is targetted right at you though, with color accuracy and a good display. The only brand I can personally vouch for is Dell. I and my partner use XPS&amp;#x27;s, and a good friend of mine has a super nice Precision that I am jealous of (specifically the ports! I&amp;#x27;m so over USB-C)</text></item><item><author>areoform</author><text>So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It&amp;#x27;s fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=25058952&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=25058952&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;And this is why I won&amp;#x27;t be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to &amp;quot;no unsigned binaries&amp;quot;), and congrats! Apple is the sole decider of what we get to use on our computers.&lt;p&gt;Of course Apple&amp;#x27;s Craig Federighi assures us that the people making such assertions are &amp;quot;tools&amp;quot; (&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;youtu.be&amp;#x2F;Hg9F1Qjv3iU?t=3177&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;youtu.be&amp;#x2F;Hg9F1Qjv3iU?t=3177&lt;/a&gt; , timestamp 53:33) and they have no intention whatsoever of taking away our ability to do general compute on the machines we buy and own.&lt;p&gt;Except...&lt;p&gt;Apple can already decide what binaries you can execute. Should they choose to.&lt;p&gt;Apple is now restricting what other OSes you can boot into. As they&amp;#x27;ve chosen to.&lt;p&gt;Apple can now make their machine reject a new, third-party repair part like a bad transplant. Should they choose to.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s clear where they&amp;#x27;re going. And I&amp;#x27;m jumping ship. It&amp;#x27;s painful to do so, given how invested I am in the ecosystem, but we&amp;#x27;re already beyond the threshold that many of us would have left earlier in the decade.&lt;p&gt;---&lt;p&gt;edit - It&amp;#x27;s also really hard as a designer + developer + would-be researcher in the making to find a good computer. Most non-Apple laptops don&amp;#x27;t have very good color accuracy. They also don&amp;#x27;t have good trackpads, and their keyboard + trackpad alignment is wonky (it&amp;#x27;s off-center in a lot of cases! How weird is that???)&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m trying to find a laptop with good build quality, long battery life, a good display that I can design on, a good trackpad so that I don&amp;#x27;t have to carry around a mouse, good speakers would be a plus, and light enough that I don&amp;#x27;t feel like I&amp;#x27;m lifting weights while working on my laptop. And this package should ideally come with 512GB of SSD storage and, at least, 16GB to 32GB of RAM.&lt;p&gt;Oh and it shouldn&amp;#x27;t be &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; expensive than a Mac as many of these laptops are!&lt;p&gt;Any suggestions?</text></item><item><author>submeta</author><text>Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago.&lt;p&gt;Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&amp;#x2F;llanga&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1326989724704268289&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;mobile.twitter.com&amp;#x2F;llanga&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;1326989724704268289&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so, the entire operating system grinds to a halt.&lt;p&gt;EDIT:&lt;p&gt;As others pointed out, I put this to my `&amp;#x2F;etc&amp;#x2F;hosts` file and refreshed it like so:&lt;p&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;    sudo emacs &amp;#x2F;etc&amp;#x2F;hosts # add `0.0.0.0 ocsp.apple.com` 
    sudo dscacheutil -flushcache; sudo killall -HUP mDNSResponder # refresh hosts&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>areoform</author><text>Interestingly, Apple covers &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; than sRGB, their panels are now being set to the broader DCI-P3 gamut. Whereas these laptops (at least in 2019) were slightly &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; than the sRGB gamut on testing. Except for the surface book,&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;imgur.com&amp;#x2F;a&amp;#x2F;6dGz3LO&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;imgur.com&amp;#x2F;a&amp;#x2F;6dGz3LO&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;I got these results from, &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.notebookcheck.net&amp;#x2F;MSI-Prestige-15-A10SC-Laptop-Review-One-of-the-Best-Dell-XPS-15-Alternatives.441280.0.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.notebookcheck.net&amp;#x2F;MSI-Prestige-15-A10SC-Laptop-R...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>