<story><title>Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots</title><url>https://missionlocal.org/2022/11/killer-robots-to-be-permitted-under-sfpd-draft-policy/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>treeman79</author><text>I agree that killer robots are a bad idea.&lt;p&gt;Asking a cop to walk into an active shooter situation isn’t great either.</text></item><item><author>wheresmycraisin</author><text>I can&amp;#x27;t possibly imagine how anyone thinks this is a good idea. US police are already over-militarized and under-accountable. We as Americans need to stop worshiping &amp;quot;men in uniform&amp;quot; including all levels of law enforcement and military and hold them to the same standard as any other member of society -- stop giving them everything they want and stop spoiling them when they call us unpatriotic.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>heavyset_go</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;Asking a cop to walk into an active shooter situation isn’t great either.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t think valuing a cop who doesn&amp;#x27;t want to do their job, but still demands to keep it, over innocent civilian lives that they were hired to protect is a great situation, either.&lt;p&gt;Delivery drivers have more dangerous jobs than police officers do, and they&amp;#x27;re asked to walk into situations where they can be murdered, and are statistically more likely to be than cops, literally everyday, multiple times a day.&lt;p&gt;Cops are often the highest paid employees on a government&amp;#x27;s payroll, and it is very common for over 50% of a municipality&amp;#x27;s total budget to go towards cop salaries and benefits. In my state, cops earn a median salary of over $105,000 a year before overtime, bonuses or benefits, and they can earn over $250,000 a year with overtime. They can retire after only 20 years of working with a full pension that they can draw from for life. In my area, they&amp;#x27;re also given special mortgage rates of about 2% versus the more common ~6%+ as of late. For comparison, software engineers in my state only have a median salary of $89,000.&lt;p&gt;Delivery drivers barely make minimum wage, they often have no benefits, and their employers tend either pay them off the books or classify them as independent contractors.&lt;p&gt;Cops are rewarded even more handsomely than military members are, for the very miniscule risk they take on. This is what they signed up for, often because the rewards are that good.</text></comment>
<story><title>Draft policy proposal would authorize SF Police to use deadly force with robots</title><url>https://missionlocal.org/2022/11/killer-robots-to-be-permitted-under-sfpd-draft-policy/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>treeman79</author><text>I agree that killer robots are a bad idea.&lt;p&gt;Asking a cop to walk into an active shooter situation isn’t great either.</text></item><item><author>wheresmycraisin</author><text>I can&amp;#x27;t possibly imagine how anyone thinks this is a good idea. US police are already over-militarized and under-accountable. We as Americans need to stop worshiping &amp;quot;men in uniform&amp;quot; including all levels of law enforcement and military and hold them to the same standard as any other member of society -- stop giving them everything they want and stop spoiling them when they call us unpatriotic.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>JadeNB</author><text>&amp;gt; Asking a cop to walk into an active shooter situation isn’t great either.&lt;p&gt;Indeed, cops are just humans, and we correctly think of them as such when asking them to perform duties on behalf of the citizens they are supposed to protect.  But somehow, when it comes time to holding them accountable for misdeeds carried out in the course of their professional duties, they are held apart from other humans.  At least one side of this imbalance should be rectified.</text></comment>