<story><title>Bloated college administration is making education unaffordable</title><url>https://quillette.com/2022/11/02/bloated-college-administration-is-making-education-unaffordable/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Hermitian909</author><text>Stanford and other top institutions can&amp;#x27;t really be compared to other schools, students fees are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; how these institutions make money. There are massive business arms tying in to fortune 500s, political think tanks, government institutions, etc. It&amp;#x27;s a whole different game for schools at this level.&lt;p&gt;To understand administrative bloat in the US it&amp;#x27;s much more instructive to look somewhere like University of Idaho where the business of charging students for services rendered is the main game in town. It&amp;#x27;s there you can see how administrative services have drastically ballooned costs for just the education.</text></item><item><author>Animats</author><text>Stanford has now reached the point that they recently built an &lt;i&gt;entire 35-acre campus just for administrators.&lt;/i&gt;[1] This is completely separate from the main campus and miles away.&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;The campus provides workspace for about 2,700 employees (including three of the university’s eight vice presidents) working in critical areas such as the School of Medicine administration, libraries and archives, business affairs, human resources, development and Land, Buildings &amp;amp; Real Estate. Stanford will be the city’s third-largest employer in Redwood City.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Amenities:&lt;p&gt;* Cardinal Café -- Located on the first floor of Cardinal Hall, serving globally- and regionally-inspired cuisine for breakfast and lunch.&lt;p&gt;* Recreation &amp;amp; Wellness Center -- The 28,000 square foot facility includes a six-lane rooftop pool, indoor basketball court, state-of-the-art fitness equipment, locker rooms, showers and an outdoor fitness courtyard.&lt;p&gt;* Stanford Transportation&lt;p&gt;* Digital Media Production Studio&lt;p&gt;* Wellness and Lactation Rooms&lt;p&gt;* Dry Cleaning&lt;p&gt;* Pine Cone Children&amp;#x27;s Center&lt;p&gt;* Stanford Catering &amp;amp; Conferences&lt;p&gt;* Stanford Federal Credit Union&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;redwoodcity.stanford.edu&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;redwoodcity.stanford.edu&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>Animats</author><text>Arguably, Stanford is a venture capital and real estate firm which operates a school on the side for the tax exemption. Back in the early 1990s, Stanford split off their endowment and land operations into a separate company, the Stanford Management Company. That worked out very well. They had startup money in Cisco, Yahoo, Google... Over time, the SMC tail came to wag the SU dog.</text></comment>
<story><title>Bloated college administration is making education unaffordable</title><url>https://quillette.com/2022/11/02/bloated-college-administration-is-making-education-unaffordable/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>Hermitian909</author><text>Stanford and other top institutions can&amp;#x27;t really be compared to other schools, students fees are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; how these institutions make money. There are massive business arms tying in to fortune 500s, political think tanks, government institutions, etc. It&amp;#x27;s a whole different game for schools at this level.&lt;p&gt;To understand administrative bloat in the US it&amp;#x27;s much more instructive to look somewhere like University of Idaho where the business of charging students for services rendered is the main game in town. It&amp;#x27;s there you can see how administrative services have drastically ballooned costs for just the education.</text></item><item><author>Animats</author><text>Stanford has now reached the point that they recently built an &lt;i&gt;entire 35-acre campus just for administrators.&lt;/i&gt;[1] This is completely separate from the main campus and miles away.&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;The campus provides workspace for about 2,700 employees (including three of the university’s eight vice presidents) working in critical areas such as the School of Medicine administration, libraries and archives, business affairs, human resources, development and Land, Buildings &amp;amp; Real Estate. Stanford will be the city’s third-largest employer in Redwood City.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Amenities:&lt;p&gt;* Cardinal Café -- Located on the first floor of Cardinal Hall, serving globally- and regionally-inspired cuisine for breakfast and lunch.&lt;p&gt;* Recreation &amp;amp; Wellness Center -- The 28,000 square foot facility includes a six-lane rooftop pool, indoor basketball court, state-of-the-art fitness equipment, locker rooms, showers and an outdoor fitness courtyard.&lt;p&gt;* Stanford Transportation&lt;p&gt;* Digital Media Production Studio&lt;p&gt;* Wellness and Lactation Rooms&lt;p&gt;* Dry Cleaning&lt;p&gt;* Pine Cone Children&amp;#x27;s Center&lt;p&gt;* Stanford Catering &amp;amp; Conferences&lt;p&gt;* Stanford Federal Credit Union&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;redwoodcity.stanford.edu&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;redwoodcity.stanford.edu&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>ohnonotyouagain</author><text>Also, the top institutions also offer substantial need-based aid, so the top-line tuition number is really only applicable to households with income over ~$200-$250K.   At Harvard a family with $150K income will pay $15K, see &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;college.harvard.edu&amp;#x2F;guides&amp;#x2F;financial-aid-fact-sheet&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;college.harvard.edu&amp;#x2F;guides&amp;#x2F;financial-aid-fact-sheet&lt;/a&gt; I think this is typical across the Ivies.  That&amp;#x27;s basically in-state tuition at UMass &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.umass.edu&amp;#x2F;admissions&amp;#x2F;undergraduate-admissions&amp;#x2F;costs-aid&amp;#x2F;cost-attend&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.umass.edu&amp;#x2F;admissions&amp;#x2F;undergraduate-admissions&amp;#x2F;co...&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>