<story><title>YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips</title><url>https://boingboing.net/2022/07/01/youtube-removes-criticism-of-dangerous-fractal-wood-burning-instructions-but-leaves-up-the-lethal-tips.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>foobarian</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s disappointing how most of the articles and videos criticizing the dangerous content don&amp;#x27;t explain why exactly something is dangerous.  They just scream &amp;quot;omg high voltage&amp;quot; &amp;quot;one mistake you&amp;#x27;re dead&amp;quot; and so on.  I honestly think they are worse than the source; it reminds me of the medieval experimenters and alchemists being oppressed by the conformist public.</text></item><item><author>colejohnson66</author><text>I like Big Clive (and Electroboom) because they know how to be safe, but do the stupid thing anyways (safely) to show how bad the ideas are.</text></item><item><author>dazzawazza</author><text>Big Clive has a good video on why this is dangerous and how to make it more safe. Note: not safe safe, just more safe.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>krisoft</author><text>&amp;gt; It&amp;#x27;s disappointing how most of the articles and videos criticizing the dangerous content don&amp;#x27;t explain why exactly something is dangerous.&lt;p&gt;Which videos are you talking about in particular?&lt;p&gt;Both the Ann Reardon and the Big Clive video explains exactly what makes this experiment more dangerous than others people do.&lt;p&gt;The Big Clive one in particular goes into interesting details about how a ground fault circuit interrupter works, and why it doesn&amp;#x27;t protect you in this case.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; They just scream &amp;quot;omg high voltage&amp;quot; &amp;quot;one mistake you&amp;#x27;re dead&amp;quot; and so on.&lt;p&gt;The ones I have seen don&amp;#x27;t scream. They calmly explain that the voltage generated in this setup is much much higher than the voltage the average experimenter has experience with.&lt;p&gt;About the &amp;quot;one mistake you&amp;#x27;re dead&amp;quot;. That is the crux of the matter. People should be aware of how thin the margins are, and how few guard rails protect them in any particular situation.&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; it reminds me of the medieval experimenters and alchemists being oppressed by the conformist public.&lt;p&gt;Who is oppressing anybody here?</text></comment>
<story><title>YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips</title><url>https://boingboing.net/2022/07/01/youtube-removes-criticism-of-dangerous-fractal-wood-burning-instructions-but-leaves-up-the-lethal-tips.html</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>foobarian</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s disappointing how most of the articles and videos criticizing the dangerous content don&amp;#x27;t explain why exactly something is dangerous.  They just scream &amp;quot;omg high voltage&amp;quot; &amp;quot;one mistake you&amp;#x27;re dead&amp;quot; and so on.  I honestly think they are worse than the source; it reminds me of the medieval experimenters and alchemists being oppressed by the conformist public.</text></item><item><author>colejohnson66</author><text>I like Big Clive (and Electroboom) because they know how to be safe, but do the stupid thing anyways (safely) to show how bad the ideas are.</text></item><item><author>dazzawazza</author><text>Big Clive has a good video on why this is dangerous and how to make it more safe. Note: not safe safe, just more safe.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.youtube.com&amp;#x2F;watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rcxdude</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s not hard to figure out: microwave oven transformers are generally considered one of the most dangerous things you can find in a household appliance when misused because they put out enough voltage to reliably punch through even dry skin (which is usually a fairly good insulator which mitigates a lot of the severity of most mains voltage shocks), while still able to generate enough current that when it does form a circuit through you it will not only hurt because cause your muscles to tense up rigidly, burn you badly, and depending on how (un)lucky you are, cause cardiac arrest. It also (as explained in the Big Clive video) bypasses the safety equipment in most houses designed to mitigate shocks from mains-powered devices. Fractal wood burning also involves a bunch of salt-water which only increases the risk. &amp;quot;Only one mistake needed to kill you&amp;quot; is not hyperbole (it&amp;#x27;s possible to survive shocks from MOTs, but it&amp;#x27;s not the norm).</text></comment>