<story><title>Reddit goes down fully as thousands of subreddits protest API changes</title><url>https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/12/reddit-goes-down-fully/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>timmg</author><text>Is it just me, or are users trying to solve the wrong problem here?&lt;p&gt;According to the CEO, Reddit is losing money.  It won&amp;#x27;t survive long-term if that doesn&amp;#x27;t change.  If people care about reddit and its community, it seems like that&amp;#x27;s what they should be thinking about.&lt;p&gt;If an alternate client &lt;i&gt;uses&lt;/i&gt; the API, but doesn&amp;#x27;t return any advertising (or other) revenue, that is a good reason for reddit (as a company) to change that relationship.&lt;p&gt;To be clear, I&amp;#x27;m not making a comment about how they are going about it.  But destroying reddit&amp;#x27;s &lt;i&gt;business&lt;/i&gt; is no help to anyone.&lt;p&gt;Lots of people on reddit (and on here) brag about using ad-blockers.  They also complain about paying for services.  I mean: something&amp;#x27;s go to give.  VC&amp;#x27;s won&amp;#x27;t continue to fund these free services forever.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d rather live in a world where you view advertisements &lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; pay a fee to use services.  But I seem to be outside the norm on these things.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>dijit</author><text>CEO also 10x’d the headcount.&lt;p&gt;and spent significant funding on buying Alien Blue and then ruining it.&lt;p&gt;and spent significant resources on a new UI design that is near universally reviled.&lt;p&gt;Its not good enough to say you are not profitable, when you are a significant cause</text></comment>
<story><title>Reddit goes down fully as thousands of subreddits protest API changes</title><url>https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/12/reddit-goes-down-fully/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>timmg</author><text>Is it just me, or are users trying to solve the wrong problem here?&lt;p&gt;According to the CEO, Reddit is losing money.  It won&amp;#x27;t survive long-term if that doesn&amp;#x27;t change.  If people care about reddit and its community, it seems like that&amp;#x27;s what they should be thinking about.&lt;p&gt;If an alternate client &lt;i&gt;uses&lt;/i&gt; the API, but doesn&amp;#x27;t return any advertising (or other) revenue, that is a good reason for reddit (as a company) to change that relationship.&lt;p&gt;To be clear, I&amp;#x27;m not making a comment about how they are going about it.  But destroying reddit&amp;#x27;s &lt;i&gt;business&lt;/i&gt; is no help to anyone.&lt;p&gt;Lots of people on reddit (and on here) brag about using ad-blockers.  They also complain about paying for services.  I mean: something&amp;#x27;s go to give.  VC&amp;#x27;s won&amp;#x27;t continue to fund these free services forever.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;d rather live in a world where you view advertisements &lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; pay a fee to use services.  But I seem to be outside the norm on these things.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>musictubes</author><text>The developer of Apollo was clear that the problem wasn’t that Reddit wanted to charge for API usage, it was the price.&lt;p&gt;Reddit could have just made third party client use a feature of Reddit premium and avoid all of the current issues. Yes, some would still complain that Reddit costs anything to use but big clients have paying customers and are less price sensitive.</text></comment>