<story><title>Swedish painters trade union to stop all work with Tesla brand cars</title><url>https://www.malarna.nu/om-oss/nyheter/20232/pressmeddelande-malarna-stoppar-lackering-av-tesla-bilar/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dalbasal</author><text>So it sounds like the action isn&amp;#x27;t about particulars, at least not at this point.&lt;p&gt;They are describing the dispute as being about general principles afaict. That Tesla should accept the &amp;quot;swedish labour model&amp;quot; in general. They emphasize that it&amp;#x27;s an non-disruptive model and good for business.&lt;p&gt;This stuff is all context(that I don&amp;#x27;t have. Otherwise it&amp;#x27;s just a generic &amp;quot;unions or not&amp;quot; debate unrelated to Tesla, Sweden or 2023.&lt;p&gt;That said... US companies seem at aeas with these sorts of issues in Europe. In china, companies either stay out or bite the bullet and play by Chinese rules.&lt;p&gt;In Europe, especially around labour issues... American companies seem to always &amp;quot;rebel.&amp;quot; It&amp;#x27;s as if local labour laws just aren&amp;#x27;t taken into prior account... and companies are caught surprised by the inevitable.&lt;p&gt;This doesn&amp;#x27;t really happen outside of Europe, nor for non-labour issues like environmental regs.&lt;p&gt;What is this? How&amp;#x2F;why?</text></item><item><author>vmarchaud</author><text>If someone else doesn&amp;#x27;t understand why painters would have a problem with Tesla (like me), you might be interested in this: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ifmetall.se&amp;#x2F;aktuellt&amp;#x2F;tesla&amp;#x2F;background-information-on-if-metalls-conflict-at-tesla&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ifmetall.se&amp;#x2F;aktuellt&amp;#x2F;tesla&amp;#x2F;background-informatio...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>anon4242</author><text>It&amp;#x27;s interesting, I&amp;#x27;ve started seeing job ads in Sweden where you are expected to setup your own company to work for a US-based company with US-style PTO. The salary looks bigger than what is typically offered by Swedish companies but that is because not only do you have to work more, the company you setup will also have to pay the quite steep payroll tax (at ~31%) that most employees are not familiar with (as it&amp;#x27;s paid by the employer on top of your salary before personal taxes).&lt;p&gt;The law in Sweden dictates that a company must give its employees at least 5 weeks of vacation of which at least four weeks consecutively some time during June, July and August.&lt;p&gt;This is really insidious as it looks like you&amp;#x27;ll be earning a lot (but you won&amp;#x27;t) and it&amp;#x27;s hard to sue yourself for only giving yourself two weeks of vacation.</text></comment>
<story><title>Swedish painters trade union to stop all work with Tesla brand cars</title><url>https://www.malarna.nu/om-oss/nyheter/20232/pressmeddelande-malarna-stoppar-lackering-av-tesla-bilar/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dalbasal</author><text>So it sounds like the action isn&amp;#x27;t about particulars, at least not at this point.&lt;p&gt;They are describing the dispute as being about general principles afaict. That Tesla should accept the &amp;quot;swedish labour model&amp;quot; in general. They emphasize that it&amp;#x27;s an non-disruptive model and good for business.&lt;p&gt;This stuff is all context(that I don&amp;#x27;t have. Otherwise it&amp;#x27;s just a generic &amp;quot;unions or not&amp;quot; debate unrelated to Tesla, Sweden or 2023.&lt;p&gt;That said... US companies seem at aeas with these sorts of issues in Europe. In china, companies either stay out or bite the bullet and play by Chinese rules.&lt;p&gt;In Europe, especially around labour issues... American companies seem to always &amp;quot;rebel.&amp;quot; It&amp;#x27;s as if local labour laws just aren&amp;#x27;t taken into prior account... and companies are caught surprised by the inevitable.&lt;p&gt;This doesn&amp;#x27;t really happen outside of Europe, nor for non-labour issues like environmental regs.&lt;p&gt;What is this? How&amp;#x2F;why?</text></item><item><author>vmarchaud</author><text>If someone else doesn&amp;#x27;t understand why painters would have a problem with Tesla (like me), you might be interested in this: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ifmetall.se&amp;#x2F;aktuellt&amp;#x2F;tesla&amp;#x2F;background-information-on-if-metalls-conflict-at-tesla&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noreferrer&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.ifmetall.se&amp;#x2F;aktuellt&amp;#x2F;tesla&amp;#x2F;background-informatio...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rsynnott</author><text>Some companies absolutely try it for environmental regs, too. I think what you&amp;#x27;re possibly seeing here is that where a multinational tries labour abuses, the response is typically very messy and public, whereas only the very most extreme _regulatory_ offences will be particularly publicly visible (typically where the company tries to defy the regulator after being caught red-handed). More commonly they&amp;#x27;ll be told what they need to fix and possibly fined.</text></comment>