<story><title>The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton</title><url>https://gabrielsieben.tech/2022/07/25/the-power-of-microsoft-pluton-2/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dx034</author><text>Secure chips like this are already in all devices but PCs. And in none of these areas has any of that happened. Quite the opposite, Apple got a fine when they slowed down older devices to save battery (at least what they said).&lt;p&gt;So the government will clearly help out here. And none of these companies has an incentives to stop sales to smaller companies, they make a lot of money with those.</text></item><item><author>ftyhbhyjnjk</author><text>What you can install on YOUR pc will be at the sole mercy of microsoft&amp;#x2F;or maybe someone else.... That&amp;#x27;s the cusp of it. Not that it can be used for good, but that it sets the way for heavy misuse by large corporations.&lt;p&gt;Wait a few years. Smaller companies won&amp;#x27;t even be allowed to order high end cpu&amp;#x27;s. You&amp;#x27;ll be at 100% mercy of these corporations.&lt;p&gt;If after 2 years they decide to brick your pc, they&amp;#x27;ll just do it. You think government will help you out here? Lol...</text></item><item><author>Gh0stRAT</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m completely missing how his example of a Word document that can only be opened by approved users on approved hardware within the corporation is supposed to be a bad thing.&lt;p&gt;Honestly, that sounds pretty fantastic. I&amp;#x27;ve been using 3rd party tools&amp;#x2F;extensions to do this sort of thing in corporate and government environments for years, but having the attestation go all the way down to the hardware level is a big value-add, especially with so much ransomware&amp;#x2F;spyware&amp;#x2F;extortion&amp;#x2F;espionage going on these days.&lt;p&gt;Can someone please explain to me how the author might see this level of security as a bad thing?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>autoexec</author><text>&amp;gt; Secure chips like this are already in all devices but PCs. And in none of these areas has any of that happened.&lt;p&gt;Ah, that must be why we all have root access and can freely modify or install anything we want on every device we own! Oh, wait, we don&amp;#x27;t have those things and our non-PC systems are increasingly locked down and routinely do things against the wishes of the people who own them.</text></comment>
<story><title>The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton</title><url>https://gabrielsieben.tech/2022/07/25/the-power-of-microsoft-pluton-2/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>dx034</author><text>Secure chips like this are already in all devices but PCs. And in none of these areas has any of that happened. Quite the opposite, Apple got a fine when they slowed down older devices to save battery (at least what they said).&lt;p&gt;So the government will clearly help out here. And none of these companies has an incentives to stop sales to smaller companies, they make a lot of money with those.</text></item><item><author>ftyhbhyjnjk</author><text>What you can install on YOUR pc will be at the sole mercy of microsoft&amp;#x2F;or maybe someone else.... That&amp;#x27;s the cusp of it. Not that it can be used for good, but that it sets the way for heavy misuse by large corporations.&lt;p&gt;Wait a few years. Smaller companies won&amp;#x27;t even be allowed to order high end cpu&amp;#x27;s. You&amp;#x27;ll be at 100% mercy of these corporations.&lt;p&gt;If after 2 years they decide to brick your pc, they&amp;#x27;ll just do it. You think government will help you out here? Lol...</text></item><item><author>Gh0stRAT</author><text>I&amp;#x27;m completely missing how his example of a Word document that can only be opened by approved users on approved hardware within the corporation is supposed to be a bad thing.&lt;p&gt;Honestly, that sounds pretty fantastic. I&amp;#x27;ve been using 3rd party tools&amp;#x2F;extensions to do this sort of thing in corporate and government environments for years, but having the attestation go all the way down to the hardware level is a big value-add, especially with so much ransomware&amp;#x2F;spyware&amp;#x2F;extortion&amp;#x2F;espionage going on these days.&lt;p&gt;Can someone please explain to me how the author might see this level of security as a bad thing?</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>fsflover</author><text>&amp;gt; Quite the opposite, Apple got a fine when they slowed down older devices to save battery&lt;p&gt;But the devices &lt;i&gt;were&lt;/i&gt; actually slowed down, so the danger is real.</text></comment>