<story><title>Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/21507966/foxconn-empty-factories-wisconsin-jobs-loophole-trump</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>pg_bot</author><text>I knew someone would bring up Citizens United v FEC when I said worst. I know this will be an unpopular opinion on this forum, but I believe that case was decided correctly. I agree wholeheartedly with Justice Kennedy&amp;#x27;s opinion that&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;If the First Amendment has any force, it prohibits Congress from fining or jailing citizens, or associations of citizens, for simply engaging in political speech&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Read the opinions and dissents of that case and you may change your mind.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;supreme.justia.com&amp;#x2F;cases&amp;#x2F;federal&amp;#x2F;us&amp;#x2F;558&amp;#x2F;310&amp;#x2F;#tab-opinion-1963051&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;supreme.justia.com&amp;#x2F;cases&amp;#x2F;federal&amp;#x2F;us&amp;#x2F;558&amp;#x2F;310&amp;#x2F;#tab-opi...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>gruez</author><text>&lt;i&gt;worst&lt;/i&gt;? what about citizens united? how often is eminent domain abused for economic development, compared to how much favorable legislation was passed for corporations?</text></item><item><author>pg_bot</author><text>You can blame the worst supreme court decision in the 21st century for that. (Kelo v City of New London)&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Kelo_v._City_of_New_London&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Kelo_v._City_of_New_London&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>kenned3</author><text>This is a great article around why &amp;quot;corporate welfare&amp;quot; rarely works out.  Also, semes like a textbook example of &amp;quot;eminent domain&amp;quot; abuse?&lt;p&gt;We call this &amp;quot;expropriation&amp;quot; in Canada and it is rarely abused like this.&lt;p&gt;Taking peoples property to give it to a private corporation?  I can understand the need to take property for public use (roads, infra) but the US needs to end eminent domain abuse.  If Foxconn needed the property, go to the landowners and buy it, dont go to the gvt and claim &amp;#x27;road widening&amp;#x27; to kick them off.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jonstewart</author><text>The essential problem, which Justice Kennedy seemed not to understand, is that money is not speech. The easy test to show this as nonsense is quantification, i.e., it’s clearly the case that some citizens have more money than others, but it’s nonsense to think that some citizens have more free speech than others.&lt;p&gt;One of Justice Kennedy’s clerks in 2009-2010 was Misha Tseytlin, a Federalist Society member who undoubtedly helped write Kennedy’s opinion on the Bilski case, which widened the potential for business process patents and considered by many software developers to be a terrible decision regarding the patentability of software. Despite no connection to Wisconsin whatsoever, Tseytlin was later appointed Wisconsin Solicitor General by Scott Walker and worked on many of the voter suppression initiatives in Wisconsin. He’s been party to litigation on behalf of the Wisconsin Tavern League seeking to overturn Governor Evers’s executive order on masks and public gatherings. I’m a part-time resident of the state and grew up there, and it’s distressing to me that a fringe ideologue with no connection to the state continues to do it harm.</text></comment>
<story><title>Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin</title><url>https://www.theverge.com/21507966/foxconn-empty-factories-wisconsin-jobs-loophole-trump</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>pg_bot</author><text>I knew someone would bring up Citizens United v FEC when I said worst. I know this will be an unpopular opinion on this forum, but I believe that case was decided correctly. I agree wholeheartedly with Justice Kennedy&amp;#x27;s opinion that&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;If the First Amendment has any force, it prohibits Congress from fining or jailing citizens, or associations of citizens, for simply engaging in political speech&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;Read the opinions and dissents of that case and you may change your mind.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;supreme.justia.com&amp;#x2F;cases&amp;#x2F;federal&amp;#x2F;us&amp;#x2F;558&amp;#x2F;310&amp;#x2F;#tab-opinion-1963051&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;supreme.justia.com&amp;#x2F;cases&amp;#x2F;federal&amp;#x2F;us&amp;#x2F;558&amp;#x2F;310&amp;#x2F;#tab-opi...&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>gruez</author><text>&lt;i&gt;worst&lt;/i&gt;? what about citizens united? how often is eminent domain abused for economic development, compared to how much favorable legislation was passed for corporations?</text></item><item><author>pg_bot</author><text>You can blame the worst supreme court decision in the 21st century for that. (Kelo v City of New London)&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Kelo_v._City_of_New_London&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&amp;#x2F;wiki&amp;#x2F;Kelo_v._City_of_New_London&lt;/a&gt;</text></item><item><author>kenned3</author><text>This is a great article around why &amp;quot;corporate welfare&amp;quot; rarely works out.  Also, semes like a textbook example of &amp;quot;eminent domain&amp;quot; abuse?&lt;p&gt;We call this &amp;quot;expropriation&amp;quot; in Canada and it is rarely abused like this.&lt;p&gt;Taking peoples property to give it to a private corporation?  I can understand the need to take property for public use (roads, infra) but the US needs to end eminent domain abuse.  If Foxconn needed the property, go to the landowners and buy it, dont go to the gvt and claim &amp;#x27;road widening&amp;#x27; to kick them off.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tyre</author><text>I would still put Citizens up there. We have rules around elections in the same way that we have some limits on individual speech (yelling fire, and all that) to effect the fundamental right that the First Amendment is meant to protect. Similarly, PACs were an unforeseen (and in some ways unforeseeable to eighteenth century framers) exploit of a well functioning democracy as it relates to &lt;i&gt;people&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;p&gt;Kucho vs. Common Cause as well. Gerrymandering is a clear abuse of the system. Kagan’s dissent is heartbreaking.</text></comment>