<story><title>Elon Musk to publish hyperloop design by August</title><url>https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/356776740409974785</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>btilly</author><text>Everyone has criticized you based on how great SpaceX is.  I&amp;#x27;ll go the other way.&lt;p&gt;Tesla at its heart is &amp;quot;put a ton of batteries which were developed by other companies into an electric motor that drives a car.&amp;quot;  People have been trying this formula for over a century.  Tesla happened to do it when battery technology was just good enough to work, with really good styling.</text></item><item><author>rayiner</author><text>I think there is more &amp;quot;secret sauce&amp;quot; in Tesla than in SpaceX. SpaceX is doing great implementations of pretty conservative designs. In any case, both are &amp;quot;product&amp;quot; companies and benefit from patents less than &amp;quot;design&amp;quot; companies. Contrast SpaceX with Mojave Aerospace Ventures (the investment vehicle that owns the Spaceship One IP developed by Scaled Composites).</text></item><item><author>kiba</author><text>SpaceX don&amp;#x27;t patent anything because they thought the Chinese would steal their technologies using the patents itself.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a different story for Tesla Motors, though.</text></item><item><author>onebaddude</author><text>&amp;gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;I really hate patents unless critical to company survival&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Isn&amp;#x27;t &amp;quot;critical to company survival&amp;quot; the same defensive argument that every patent holder uses?</text></item><item><author>non-sense</author><text>Classy! &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/356779314043305985&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;elonmusk&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;356779314043305985&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;I really hate patents unless critical to company survival. Will publish Hyperloop as open source.&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mncolinlee</author><text>Looking at the spectacular flop of the Fisker, packaging is far too often understated. Most people don&amp;#x27;t understand how complicated automotive systems are and how difficult it is to integrate them all together without numerous bugs and annoyances. Most big name automakers use off the shelf systems from third parties. Tesla did not.&lt;p&gt;Tesla won the highest score ever achieved from Consumer Reports while Fisker perished with a similar formula. That isn&amp;#x27;t simply luck.</text></comment>
<story><title>Elon Musk to publish hyperloop design by August</title><url>https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/356776740409974785</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>btilly</author><text>Everyone has criticized you based on how great SpaceX is.  I&amp;#x27;ll go the other way.&lt;p&gt;Tesla at its heart is &amp;quot;put a ton of batteries which were developed by other companies into an electric motor that drives a car.&amp;quot;  People have been trying this formula for over a century.  Tesla happened to do it when battery technology was just good enough to work, with really good styling.</text></item><item><author>rayiner</author><text>I think there is more &amp;quot;secret sauce&amp;quot; in Tesla than in SpaceX. SpaceX is doing great implementations of pretty conservative designs. In any case, both are &amp;quot;product&amp;quot; companies and benefit from patents less than &amp;quot;design&amp;quot; companies. Contrast SpaceX with Mojave Aerospace Ventures (the investment vehicle that owns the Spaceship One IP developed by Scaled Composites).</text></item><item><author>kiba</author><text>SpaceX don&amp;#x27;t patent anything because they thought the Chinese would steal their technologies using the patents itself.&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s a different story for Tesla Motors, though.</text></item><item><author>onebaddude</author><text>&amp;gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;I really hate patents unless critical to company survival&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Isn&amp;#x27;t &amp;quot;critical to company survival&amp;quot; the same defensive argument that every patent holder uses?</text></item><item><author>non-sense</author><text>Classy! &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/356779314043305985&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;twitter.com&amp;#x2F;elonmusk&amp;#x2F;status&amp;#x2F;356779314043305985&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;I really hate patents unless critical to company survival. Will publish Hyperloop as open source.&amp;quot;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>marvin</author><text>In fact, Tesla&amp;#x27;s approach to battery packs is revolutionary - it goes completely against the status quo in the same way that Google&amp;#x27;s use of commodity hardware went against the status quo in the late 90s. Tesla packs use about 7000 commodity li-ion cells which are arranged in a pack with individual software-controlled charge management.&lt;p&gt;A user on the Tesla Motors forum pointed out that if Tesla actually implements their battery patents, the battery pack which was displayed in a National Geographic documentary (pixelated, of course) was in fact a fake.</text></comment>