<story><title>EFF Flew a Plane over Apple&apos;s Headquarters</title><url>https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/09/why-eff-flew-plane-over-apples-headquarters</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tailspin2019</author><text>Every time I read about what the EFF is doing I get the sense that their priorities are clear, they’re fighting a good fight and in my case they’re generally acting in line with the values&amp;#x2F;beliefs I hold around the areas they get involved with.&lt;p&gt;It’s cool when you find an organisation whose actions line up with your view of the world like that, and appears to be pretty effective too.&lt;p&gt;Someone else commented about the cost of this “stunt”, but I can’t see it costing a huge amount to pull off in the big scheme of things, and it does make for some excellent visuals which as someone else pointed out, may give some journalists a “hook” into the story.&lt;p&gt;I don’t donate much (monthly recurring) but I’m pretty happy with what I see coming out of the EFF and am happy to support them.&lt;p&gt;By the way, if anyone is on the fence about donating, check out their site as you can get some “cool”[1] EFF swag in return for your donation too:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;supporters.eff.org&amp;#x2F;donate&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;supporters.eff.org&amp;#x2F;donate&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;[1] No guarantees implied or given about how “cool” others will think your swag actually is.&lt;/i&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tzs</author><text>Are they pretty effective?&lt;p&gt;Most proposals they object to are trying to solve real problems. I almost never see the EFF propose better ways to solve those problems. They just raise objections to everyone else&amp;#x27;s proposed solutions.&lt;p&gt;And those objections are often just low effort implausible slippery slope arguments. It is pretty easy to make a slippery slope argument for pretty much anything that has it leading to a dystopian nightmare.&lt;p&gt;Legislators and policy makers tend to pay more attention to people with solutions, even bad solutions, than to people who just object to everything, especially when those objections are low quality.</text></comment>
<story><title>EFF Flew a Plane over Apple&apos;s Headquarters</title><url>https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/09/why-eff-flew-plane-over-apples-headquarters</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>tailspin2019</author><text>Every time I read about what the EFF is doing I get the sense that their priorities are clear, they’re fighting a good fight and in my case they’re generally acting in line with the values&amp;#x2F;beliefs I hold around the areas they get involved with.&lt;p&gt;It’s cool when you find an organisation whose actions line up with your view of the world like that, and appears to be pretty effective too.&lt;p&gt;Someone else commented about the cost of this “stunt”, but I can’t see it costing a huge amount to pull off in the big scheme of things, and it does make for some excellent visuals which as someone else pointed out, may give some journalists a “hook” into the story.&lt;p&gt;I don’t donate much (monthly recurring) but I’m pretty happy with what I see coming out of the EFF and am happy to support them.&lt;p&gt;By the way, if anyone is on the fence about donating, check out their site as you can get some “cool”[1] EFF swag in return for your donation too:&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;supporters.eff.org&amp;#x2F;donate&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;supporters.eff.org&amp;#x2F;donate&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;[1] No guarantees implied or given about how “cool” others will think your swag actually is.&lt;/i&gt;</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>mhb</author><text>The Institute for Justice has a similar&amp;#x2F;related set of objectives: &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ij.org&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;ij.org&amp;#x2F;&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>