<story><title>Privacy not included: Holiday gift list for privacy and security</title><url>https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>bhauer</author><text>I see this as nothing more than a fun poke by Mozilla at the overwhelming majority of the technology industry—those who treat privacy as a nuisance at best and as a non-event at worst.  Mozilla are giving people like myself the fun of clicking on the Amazon Echo or Google Home and voting &amp;quot;Super creepy,&amp;quot; chuckling to ourselves about our virtuousness before closing the tab in Firefox.&lt;p&gt;I doubt they expect this page to be used by many laypeople.  Maybe a few techies will toss a link out to their families as a rough crowdsourced assessment of the degree to which some popular devices respect user privacy.  The inclusion of several nearly-unknown high-privacy options seems to be a reminder that there are alternatives; probably more difficult to use or less capable, but alternatives to the mainstream data-harvesting devices you see routinely advertised.&lt;p&gt;I think it&amp;#x27;s lighthearted fun intended to illustrate Mozilla&amp;#x27;s mission of being advocates for privacy, to a degree that we have become unfamiliar as a society in the age of everything-as-a-service.&lt;p&gt;Yeah, there are probably some inaccuracies.  But frankly, unless you&amp;#x27;re selling a device that allows you to run the services on your own host using open source software (the way Mozilla does [1]), it&amp;#x27;s fair game to say that it&amp;#x27;s &lt;i&gt;possible&lt;/i&gt; you are not sufficiently respecting user privacy.  How can we as users be sure if all we can measure is that, indeed, the device sends data off-network to the &amp;quot;cloud?&amp;quot;&lt;p&gt;If you genuinely respect user privacy, you should allow a user to wholly own the data in the most pure form possible: they never send it to you.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;mozilla-services&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;github.com&amp;#x2F;mozilla-services&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Privacy not included: Holiday gift list for privacy and security</title><url>https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>closetohome</author><text>I don&amp;#x27;t see the purpose of this page. It&amp;#x27;s not a guide, it&amp;#x27;s a poll.  Why would I base my decisions about personal privacy on the uninformed opinions of a bunch of random people?</text></comment>