<story><title>Big tech companies are at war with employees over remote work</title><url>https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/vaccines-reopenings-and-worker-revolts-big-techs-contentious-return-to-the-office/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>todd3834</author><text>I’ve been part of a lot of these conversations and it is important to note that there is a significant percentage of employees that want to go back to the office. The trick is how to please everyone. It is easy to say, let those who want to come back come and those who don’t stay home. However those that want to go back say it is because they want to be surrounded by their coworkers. Having gone back to the office voluntarily for a day recently I can confirm that going back while the majority of the team is remote is not the same.&lt;p&gt;Things seem to be hardest for younger single employees who don’t always have great work from home environments and are also sometimes lonely. Also, some of my coworkers with kids are having a hard time being productive with pressures from kids or spouses that don’t respect the working from home boundaries. Then there are people who can’t manage the work life balance and relied on a commute to tell their brain the work day is over.&lt;p&gt;Finally, there will always be under-performers who are desperately searching for a scape goat when they fail to deliver. I’ve seen this so many times after an org change, architectural change or anything that will give someone an excuse for failing to preform. These people may or may not like their new freedom but they do like their paycheck and will use any excuse for their poor performance.&lt;p&gt;Many of these problems seem solvable without forcing employees who want to work remote to come in. I personally love working remote and would never go back to mandatory days in the office if I didn’t have to. I think the trick is for executives to wrangle all of these new challenges at once. It is so much easier to just say “make things go back to where they were” so their jobs can be less complicated. People haven’t been trained how to make this new world work. In a public company it is one more unknown to juggle when they have a responsibility to shareholders to maximize profits.&lt;p&gt;So let’s start proposing solutions and promoting them. How do we make our execs feel more comfortable to let those who want to work home do so? How do we make it so easy that no exec has to worry about losing their job because they agreed to something that didn’t use to be normal?&lt;p&gt;That’s how we make this work for everyone.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>cratermoon</author><text>I&amp;#x27;d happily go back to working in the office. &lt;i&gt;If I had an actual office&lt;/i&gt;, not a 4-foot wide folding table that&amp;#x27;s part of a line of eight of them in 12 rows in a room the size of a basketball court.&lt;p&gt;I haven&amp;#x27;t had an &amp;quot;office&amp;quot; to go to work in since 2000. I&amp;#x27;ve shared spaces with anywhere from three to all of my co-workers. &amp;quot;Recent research shows that such offices result in 73 per cent less face-to-face interaction, and a 67 per cent increase in email interaction&amp;quot; &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.entrepreneur.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;325959&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.entrepreneur.com&amp;#x2F;article&amp;#x2F;325959&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>Big tech companies are at war with employees over remote work</title><url>https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/vaccines-reopenings-and-worker-revolts-big-techs-contentious-return-to-the-office/</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>todd3834</author><text>I’ve been part of a lot of these conversations and it is important to note that there is a significant percentage of employees that want to go back to the office. The trick is how to please everyone. It is easy to say, let those who want to come back come and those who don’t stay home. However those that want to go back say it is because they want to be surrounded by their coworkers. Having gone back to the office voluntarily for a day recently I can confirm that going back while the majority of the team is remote is not the same.&lt;p&gt;Things seem to be hardest for younger single employees who don’t always have great work from home environments and are also sometimes lonely. Also, some of my coworkers with kids are having a hard time being productive with pressures from kids or spouses that don’t respect the working from home boundaries. Then there are people who can’t manage the work life balance and relied on a commute to tell their brain the work day is over.&lt;p&gt;Finally, there will always be under-performers who are desperately searching for a scape goat when they fail to deliver. I’ve seen this so many times after an org change, architectural change or anything that will give someone an excuse for failing to preform. These people may or may not like their new freedom but they do like their paycheck and will use any excuse for their poor performance.&lt;p&gt;Many of these problems seem solvable without forcing employees who want to work remote to come in. I personally love working remote and would never go back to mandatory days in the office if I didn’t have to. I think the trick is for executives to wrangle all of these new challenges at once. It is so much easier to just say “make things go back to where they were” so their jobs can be less complicated. People haven’t been trained how to make this new world work. In a public company it is one more unknown to juggle when they have a responsibility to shareholders to maximize profits.&lt;p&gt;So let’s start proposing solutions and promoting them. How do we make our execs feel more comfortable to let those who want to work home do so? How do we make it so easy that no exec has to worry about losing their job because they agreed to something that didn’t use to be normal?&lt;p&gt;That’s how we make this work for everyone.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>sugarpile</author><text>While I truly do appreciate the cooperative tone, as someone who never intends to set foot in an office again except by choice (outside of onboarding), I think this is a rare event that has reduced the power asymmetry and should be taken advantage of.&lt;p&gt;How do we make execs more comfortable?  Simple, we make it so they have no choice to be uncomfortable with.  Allow full remote or lose a significant portion of your workforce in the middle of a hiring crunch with already existing insane hiring demand.  This may not play at Apple, for example, but it’s what I’ve already seen play out at my company (including for me specifically) and I see no reason it wouldn’t work at any non-FANG.  It’s not a bluff or bluster, I’d leave if my company doubled down on forcing people back on a hybrid schedule and truthfully I may leave anyway over frustration with their initial attempts to do so despite exempting me and others.&lt;p&gt;My team and office is in a very precarious position with two of our best engineers having left over the initial attempts to force hybrid.  I truly think if it was forced again my the fallout may be fatal for my team.</text></comment>