<story><title>Llama and ChatGPT Are Not Open-Source</title><url>https://spectrum.ieee.org/openai-not-open</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bick_nyers</author><text>I personally do not want the companies to release training data (at least for a while) because then it gives people leverage to neuter it.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t want a sanitized LLM, and I don&amp;#x27;t have $60M lying around to train my own.&lt;p&gt;Copyrighted material, sexual content, political opinions, throw it all in and release it please!&lt;p&gt;Yes, reducing bias in the models is a noble goal, but introducing new bias and blindspots to do it is a no-no.&lt;p&gt;Maybe I just got added to a list somewhere for having this opinion.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>barbariangrunge</author><text>&amp;gt; Copyrighted material, sexual content, political opinions, throw it all in and release it please!&lt;p&gt;Why copyrighted material? Could we stop celebrating how tech is going to steal everyone&amp;#x27;s copyrighted works in a massive effort to replace the artists who made it? Why does everyone here hate artists so much? Do they not deserve any rights over their IP, eg, the right to say no when someone wants to make derivative works that replace them from it?</text></comment>
<story><title>Llama and ChatGPT Are Not Open-Source</title><url>https://spectrum.ieee.org/openai-not-open</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>bick_nyers</author><text>I personally do not want the companies to release training data (at least for a while) because then it gives people leverage to neuter it.&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#x27;t want a sanitized LLM, and I don&amp;#x27;t have $60M lying around to train my own.&lt;p&gt;Copyrighted material, sexual content, political opinions, throw it all in and release it please!&lt;p&gt;Yes, reducing bias in the models is a noble goal, but introducing new bias and blindspots to do it is a no-no.&lt;p&gt;Maybe I just got added to a list somewhere for having this opinion.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>kristopolous</author><text>We really need to somehow separate a bias towards accuracy as distinct from some bias towards say, a sports team.&lt;p&gt;Using everything would be like taking a bunch of students final exams and then claiming the most common answers are the correct ones.&lt;p&gt;This isn&amp;#x27;t how expertise and accuracy works. Most things worth doing are not only genuinely hard and complicated but something that only a minority subset of accomplished people can do consistently well in.&lt;p&gt;Listening to everybody and incorporating their thoughts is only going to lead to wrong answers.&lt;p&gt;Being selective is the key here unless you genuinely want say, answers about to space to involve aliens and UFOs - because way more people believe in that then there are qualified PhD astrophysicists in the world.&lt;p&gt;Similarly, way more people believe in vaccine conspiracy theories then there are people with significant viral epidemiology backgrounds.&lt;p&gt;This pattern is true in every field.</text></comment>