<story><title>Permaculture Water Systems of the Seven Seeds Farm [video]</title><url>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuYGS5pLRZg</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>zz0rr</author><text>I like this sort of thing but in Oregon (and I think most places) you can&amp;#x27;t just create a lake and use it for irrigation without permission. even collecting rainwater is considered use of a public resource and needs permission outside of very narrow bounds. I know someone who was able to get permission for a mid-stream lake but even then it&amp;#x27;s not unlimited, it only applied to X acres for Y purpose and could be restricted in dry years.&lt;p&gt;so the video maybe shouldn&amp;#x27;t be a message about &amp;quot;just plop down a pond!&amp;quot; - it should be more about how to navigate local water rights to actually get permission. and I think this should be something that should be permitted more frequently, I think it&amp;#x27;s usually a good use of the public resource, but that&amp;#x27;s where it has to start</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>fswd</author><text>He did say he had irrigation rights to the stream, which isn&amp;#x27;t impossible but unusual in that area. (They won&amp;#x27;t give them anymore).  For a pond, you do have to apply. I think it&amp;#x27;s is $700 for the pond application and additional $1500 in regular fees. But here&amp;#x27;s the kicker, it takes two to three years to get it.. You&amp;#x27;re better off just doing it and ignoring the regulators in this area. Reason is, there are 20,000 illegal marijuana grow sites surrounding this guy and absolutely no effective enforcement. The only enforcement is against people who register for water rights and follow the rules. If the drug cartel steals your water rights, they won&amp;#x27;t even pick up the phone.&lt;p&gt;What&amp;#x27;s up with no plants in the ground?</text></comment>
<story><title>Permaculture Water Systems of the Seven Seeds Farm [video]</title><url>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuYGS5pLRZg</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>zz0rr</author><text>I like this sort of thing but in Oregon (and I think most places) you can&amp;#x27;t just create a lake and use it for irrigation without permission. even collecting rainwater is considered use of a public resource and needs permission outside of very narrow bounds. I know someone who was able to get permission for a mid-stream lake but even then it&amp;#x27;s not unlimited, it only applied to X acres for Y purpose and could be restricted in dry years.&lt;p&gt;so the video maybe shouldn&amp;#x27;t be a message about &amp;quot;just plop down a pond!&amp;quot; - it should be more about how to navigate local water rights to actually get permission. and I think this should be something that should be permitted more frequently, I think it&amp;#x27;s usually a good use of the public resource, but that&amp;#x27;s where it has to start</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>tejtm</author><text>I have heard this this gets spun into;  
 &amp;quot;it is illegal have a rain barrel fed off your roof for your yard&amp;quot; 
(it is not)&lt;p&gt;Where the intent is closer to;   
You can&amp;#x27;t claim more than your share of a watershed to screw those downstream.</text></comment>