<story><title>Ice loss from Greenland and Antarctica hits new record</title><url>https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/FutureEO/CryoSat/Ice_loss_from_Greenland_and_Antarctica_hits_new_record</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>simmerup</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s plenty of billionaires creating bugout fortresses with private security contractors to keep them safe.&lt;p&gt;For the elites maybe success means something different to us.</text></item><item><author>audiodude</author><text>In 2010 we needed to act &amp;quot;before 2020&amp;quot; which seemed like plenty of time. I&amp;#x27;m convinced we already have met the &amp;quot;tipping point&amp;quot;. No one wants to say that though because it would be either admitting climate change is real, or admitting defeat.</text></item><item><author>jvanderbot</author><text>I personally have zero hope that we&amp;#x27;ll succeed in mitigating &amp;quot;tipping point&amp;quot;, irreversible climate change. I&amp;#x27;m less doom-and-gloom about it than most, though, since I think we&amp;#x27;ll find ways to adapt, and a sort of apocalyptic human-ending scenario doesn&amp;#x27;t seem likely to me.&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#x27;t get me wrong, &amp;quot;adapt&amp;quot; is going to be painful. But I think it will be painful in the way the industrial revolution was painful: Lots and lots of cultural displacement, shifts in lifestyles, etc. But it&amp;#x27;ll also make some new billionaires and powerhouse industrial centers based around the need to fundamentally change our society to &lt;i&gt;stop making it worse&lt;/i&gt; and to solve the problems a heating globe produces.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>brtkdotse</author><text>&amp;gt; There&amp;#x27;s plenty of billionaires creating bugout fortresses with private security contractors to keep them safe.&lt;p&gt;Being locked in a fortress with a few dozen armed men who’s loyalty depends on “currency in a bank” having any value doesn’t seem very safe to me.&lt;p&gt;But what do I know, I’m not a billionaire.</text></comment>
<story><title>Ice loss from Greenland and Antarctica hits new record</title><url>https://www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/FutureEO/CryoSat/Ice_loss_from_Greenland_and_Antarctica_hits_new_record</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>simmerup</author><text>There&amp;#x27;s plenty of billionaires creating bugout fortresses with private security contractors to keep them safe.&lt;p&gt;For the elites maybe success means something different to us.</text></item><item><author>audiodude</author><text>In 2010 we needed to act &amp;quot;before 2020&amp;quot; which seemed like plenty of time. I&amp;#x27;m convinced we already have met the &amp;quot;tipping point&amp;quot;. No one wants to say that though because it would be either admitting climate change is real, or admitting defeat.</text></item><item><author>jvanderbot</author><text>I personally have zero hope that we&amp;#x27;ll succeed in mitigating &amp;quot;tipping point&amp;quot;, irreversible climate change. I&amp;#x27;m less doom-and-gloom about it than most, though, since I think we&amp;#x27;ll find ways to adapt, and a sort of apocalyptic human-ending scenario doesn&amp;#x27;t seem likely to me.&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#x27;t get me wrong, &amp;quot;adapt&amp;quot; is going to be painful. But I think it will be painful in the way the industrial revolution was painful: Lots and lots of cultural displacement, shifts in lifestyles, etc. But it&amp;#x27;ll also make some new billionaires and powerhouse industrial centers based around the need to fundamentally change our society to &lt;i&gt;stop making it worse&lt;/i&gt; and to solve the problems a heating globe produces.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>forgetfreeman</author><text>Without exception all the folks that are going in on that particular grift are ignoring 3 really critical facts:&lt;p&gt;1. Segments of the local population are armed as well or better than their security contractors and outnumber them thousands to one.&lt;p&gt;2. None of the locals are confused about where the canned goods are being hoarded.&lt;p&gt;3. Heavy equipment is both ubiquitous worldwide and shockingly simple to operate effectively.</text></comment>