<story><title>You can opt out of airport face scans</title><url>https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/360952/summer-travel-airport-facial-recognition-scan</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>crazygringo</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;They are 100% planning to force mandatory facial recognition on the general public.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;They already have your photo if you have a driver&amp;#x27;s license or US passport or basically any form of government ID. The whole point is to compare it to what they already have.&lt;p&gt;So I don&amp;#x27;t really understand the privacy concerns here, but maybe I&amp;#x27;m missing something. Is there something that these cameras record that is different from the biometrics they already have from your ID photos?&lt;p&gt;(You&amp;#x27;re also obviously already being constantly recorded by surveillance cameras in the airport, of course.)</text></item><item><author>oceanplexian</author><text>I opted out at Boston International Airport. It involved arguing with the TSA for about 5 minutes while holding up a 150 person line. Then the supervisor came over, told me that I &amp;quot;was required to have to have my photo taken&amp;quot; and opting out consisted of checking a box in the software to not save my photo. My alternative was to not get on the flight.&lt;p&gt;The whole idea of opting out is a scam. They are 100% planning to force mandatory facial recognition on the general public.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>cookiengineer</author><text>&amp;gt; privacy concerns&lt;p&gt;The super duper classified high security no-flight list was shared internationally via a public ftp server with the username and password anonymous:anonymous.&lt;p&gt;A hacker that disclosed that responsibly got into lots of troubles for exposing that. [1]&lt;p&gt;So I&amp;#x27;d argue indeed I assume that TSA and border control use the most incompetent and most lying way to solve anything when the control mechanism are privacy laws. They literally care 0% about that. If they say they delete something, I assume they keep a physical copy.&lt;p&gt;And I totally understand people worrying a lot about that, given the golden age of deep fakes we live in. Imagine what&amp;#x27;s possible 10 years ahead when that biometric data can be used to imitate and authenticate you.&lt;p&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=34446673&quot;&gt;https:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&amp;#x2F;item?id=34446673&lt;/a&gt;</text></comment>
<story><title>You can opt out of airport face scans</title><url>https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/360952/summer-travel-airport-facial-recognition-scan</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>crazygringo</author><text>&amp;gt; &lt;i&gt;They are 100% planning to force mandatory facial recognition on the general public.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;They already have your photo if you have a driver&amp;#x27;s license or US passport or basically any form of government ID. The whole point is to compare it to what they already have.&lt;p&gt;So I don&amp;#x27;t really understand the privacy concerns here, but maybe I&amp;#x27;m missing something. Is there something that these cameras record that is different from the biometrics they already have from your ID photos?&lt;p&gt;(You&amp;#x27;re also obviously already being constantly recorded by surveillance cameras in the airport, of course.)</text></item><item><author>oceanplexian</author><text>I opted out at Boston International Airport. It involved arguing with the TSA for about 5 minutes while holding up a 150 person line. Then the supervisor came over, told me that I &amp;quot;was required to have to have my photo taken&amp;quot; and opting out consisted of checking a box in the software to not save my photo. My alternative was to not get on the flight.&lt;p&gt;The whole idea of opting out is a scam. They are 100% planning to force mandatory facial recognition on the general public.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>rgrieselhuber</author><text>Privacy is a concern but it’s more a matter of conditioning.  Every time you actively consent to it, you’re submitting to the conditioning and further enabling the system to move in this direction as a whole.</text></comment>