<story><title>Volatile pay for gig workers linked to health problems</title><url>https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2022/12/volatile-gig-workers-health-problems</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>boredumb</author><text>Become a full time employee for your mental health!&lt;p&gt;The level of absolute detachment from reality you see in academics is staggering. These gig jobs are used by millions to be able to make ends meet during difficult times. I know personally dozens of people who have done uber or door dash in between jobs, during hard times, taking a break for a 9-5 work week and they enjoyed the freedom and the ability to lease a nice car while also paying their rent.&lt;p&gt;You can see the same disconnect in politicians trying to force people into a full time employment contract in order to deliver food. There have always been delivery jobs at restaurants and people avoided them due to the lack of freedom.&lt;p&gt;This new hyper vigilant do-goodery by people who haven&amp;#x27;t experienced a solid minute of reality outside of academia, politics and big tech is already doing more harm than good and the righteousness is ratcheting up every year. This will not end well for anyone and these same &amp;quot;very smart&amp;quot; people will be completely bewildered when the &amp;quot;poor&amp;quot; people they are trying to do good by verbally and physically assault them for the very actions they supported at the cost of every one.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>harvey9</author><text>The article, and study, refer to several kinds of jobs with variable pay including sales people who get commission.&lt;p&gt;The disconnect is hn users writing 3 full paragraphs about gig workers without apparently reading beyond the headline of what they are ostensibly responding to.</text></comment>
<story><title>Volatile pay for gig workers linked to health problems</title><url>https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2022/12/volatile-gig-workers-health-problems</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>boredumb</author><text>Become a full time employee for your mental health!&lt;p&gt;The level of absolute detachment from reality you see in academics is staggering. These gig jobs are used by millions to be able to make ends meet during difficult times. I know personally dozens of people who have done uber or door dash in between jobs, during hard times, taking a break for a 9-5 work week and they enjoyed the freedom and the ability to lease a nice car while also paying their rent.&lt;p&gt;You can see the same disconnect in politicians trying to force people into a full time employment contract in order to deliver food. There have always been delivery jobs at restaurants and people avoided them due to the lack of freedom.&lt;p&gt;This new hyper vigilant do-goodery by people who haven&amp;#x27;t experienced a solid minute of reality outside of academia, politics and big tech is already doing more harm than good and the righteousness is ratcheting up every year. This will not end well for anyone and these same &amp;quot;very smart&amp;quot; people will be completely bewildered when the &amp;quot;poor&amp;quot; people they are trying to do good by verbally and physically assault them for the very actions they supported at the cost of every one.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>slg</author><text>&amp;quot;Volatile pay linked to health problems&amp;quot; is not an endorsement of full time employment.  There is no need to force this into a false dichotomy between full time employment and volatile pay.  In fact, the article specifically mentions an instance in when they happen at the same time:&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;Sayre conducted a final online survey with 252 higher-income employees in finance, marketing and sales who relied on commissions or bonuses for a smaller fraction of their income. The workers completed monthly surveys for three months, and pay volatility was less harmful to health when they were less reliant on commissions or bonuses.&lt;p&gt;Stress is bad for your health.  Pay volatility causes stress.&lt;p&gt;This is not academics advocating for full time employment.  This is academics advocating for less volatile forms of payment.&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m a little surprised that a community that traditionally receives a percentage of our compensation in nebulous equity that can be worth either nothing or millions wouldn&amp;#x27;t understand that uncertainty over your compensation is frustratingly stressful.</text></comment>