<story><title>Time to Dump Time Zones</title><url>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/opinion/sunday/time-to-dump-time-zones.html?_r=0</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>raldi</author><text>Without Standard Time, it would have been dark out until 7:40am today here in SF. That&amp;#x27;s really tough on people (or children) who have to be at work&amp;#x2F;school by 9 or even 8. By mid-December, sunrise wouldn&amp;#x27;t be until almost 8:30. In Seattle, it would be dark outside until 9am.&lt;p&gt;Losing an hour of sleep in the spring is rough, but I&amp;#x27;d rather do that (and get an extra hour in the fall) than have to get ready in the dark all winter.</text></item><item><author>pixie_</author><text>We need permanent daylight savings time. Yesterday sunset was around 6pm in LA. Today it will be at 5pm. At least I had a little bit of daylight after work, now it&amp;#x27;s just depressing.</text></item><item><author>pfarnsworth</author><text>Getting rid of Daylight Savings makes complete sense, and it&amp;#x27;s something we should really pursue.&lt;p&gt;Getting rid of Time Zones is ridiculous.  People know that 6am roughly is morning, and 6pm is roughly the evening.  When you&amp;#x27;re dealing with someone internationally, you know not to call them at midnight their time because there&amp;#x27;s a high probability they may be sleeping.  Having time roughly follow a standard around the world makes absolute sense &lt;i&gt;because we&amp;#x27;re human&lt;/i&gt;.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>jedberg</author><text>And yet even with DST, kids in Alaska manage to get to school despite the sun coming up at 10am. This whole &amp;quot;for the kids@ argument is the worst one.&lt;p&gt;Most workers today would prefer going to work in the dark and having daylight after work. Even farmers will tell you DST doesn&amp;#x27;t make a diffence to them anymore (or ever). The animals get up with the sun regardless of what the clock says.&lt;p&gt;I agree with OP -- in today&amp;#x27;s modern world we should just stick with DST all year.</text></comment>
<story><title>Time to Dump Time Zones</title><url>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/opinion/sunday/time-to-dump-time-zones.html?_r=0</url></story><parent_chain><item><author>raldi</author><text>Without Standard Time, it would have been dark out until 7:40am today here in SF. That&amp;#x27;s really tough on people (or children) who have to be at work&amp;#x2F;school by 9 or even 8. By mid-December, sunrise wouldn&amp;#x27;t be until almost 8:30. In Seattle, it would be dark outside until 9am.&lt;p&gt;Losing an hour of sleep in the spring is rough, but I&amp;#x27;d rather do that (and get an extra hour in the fall) than have to get ready in the dark all winter.</text></item><item><author>pixie_</author><text>We need permanent daylight savings time. Yesterday sunset was around 6pm in LA. Today it will be at 5pm. At least I had a little bit of daylight after work, now it&amp;#x27;s just depressing.</text></item><item><author>pfarnsworth</author><text>Getting rid of Daylight Savings makes complete sense, and it&amp;#x27;s something we should really pursue.&lt;p&gt;Getting rid of Time Zones is ridiculous.  People know that 6am roughly is morning, and 6pm is roughly the evening.  When you&amp;#x27;re dealing with someone internationally, you know not to call them at midnight their time because there&amp;#x27;s a high probability they may be sleeping.  Having time roughly follow a standard around the world makes absolute sense &lt;i&gt;because we&amp;#x27;re human&lt;/i&gt;.</text></item></parent_chain><comment><author>capkutay</author><text>Yes but when you look at time changes holistically, the CDC and sleep experts are recommending that schools start around 9 or 10 am.&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.smithsonianmag.com&amp;#x2F;smart-news&amp;#x2F;sleep-scientists-say-school-days-should-start-later-180956565&amp;#x2F;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.smithsonianmag.com&amp;#x2F;smart-news&amp;#x2F;sleep-scientists-sa...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.startschoollater.net&amp;#x2F;why-change.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http:&amp;#x2F;&amp;#x2F;www.startschoollater.net&amp;#x2F;why-change.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#x27;m more and more convinced that most humans just aren&amp;#x27;t wired to wake up at the crack of dawn. The tech industry owes a lot of its hyper productivity to the fact that they have flexible hours for their engineers which tend to skew later into the day and night.</text></comment>