<story><title>Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US</title><url>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/02/pentagon-balloons-surveillance-midwest</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>apo</author><text>&amp;gt; The new balloons promise a cheap surveillance platform that could follow multiple cars and boats for extended periods. And because winds often travel in different directions at different altitudes, the balloons can usually hover over a given area simply by ascending or descending.&lt;p&gt;Stepping back from the details of this story reveals a striking pattern that most public discussions on mass surveillance miss entirely.&lt;p&gt;Cost has protected citizens of the world&amp;#x27;s liberal democracies from sliding into totalitarianism for a long time. Now the brakes are off. Surveillance technology costs are plunging across at the board and capabilities are skyrocketing.&lt;p&gt;Regardless of size or jurisdiction, there isn&amp;#x27;t a law enforcement agency out there that doesn&amp;#x27;t want to (or actively seek to) increase its observational capability.&lt;p&gt;Tumbling prices allow these organizations to indulge these urges.&lt;p&gt;Suddenly, basic assumptions about what governments can and can&amp;#x27;t do go out the window. The equipment is bought and put into production. Better to ask forgiveness than permission and all that.&lt;p&gt;There is no limit to the appetite for greater visibility into the private lives of citizens. Today it&amp;#x27;s the war on drugs and terror. Tomorrow it&amp;#x27;s something else. The justifications change, but these are just thin veneers over the ugly truth. Every government tends toward totalitarianism unless kept in check by something pretty damn powerful.&lt;p&gt;This train has one destination, and it&amp;#x27;s not even clear if there will be any stops along the way. To understand where we&amp;#x27;re headed, try reading the Bill of Rights with the assumption that your government knows everything there is to know about you, and where those who attempt to reveal the extent of these capabilities are imprisoned or executed.</text></comment>
<story><title>Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US</title><url>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/02/pentagon-balloons-surveillance-midwest</url></story><parent_chain></parent_chain><comment><author>cherrypicker001</author><text>I saw a BBC short video while in Europe last summer. It was surreal. The video was basically showing how awesome these aerial surveillance platforms were. At one point the reporter walked out of the control center and started dancing outside. It looked like he was having a lot of fun watching himself from a few thousand feet up. If anyone manages to find it please post it. There was no talk about the privacy implications. Just a puff piece to acclimatize people into thinking this was normal.&lt;p&gt;If you don&amp;#x27;t yet know what these balloons are from articles on Afghanistan, they provide very cheap ubiquitous physical surveillance on very large areas. If one of these things have LOS on you or your home, you no longer have any physical privacy.&lt;p&gt;If this doesn&amp;#x27;t piss you off you need to look up what a panopticon is.</text></comment>