which was the sort of the country on the Black Sea where Stalin came from,
part of the Soviet Union. And then he was promoted to -- in 1938 -- to be head of the secret police. And
then he became a really fearsome character. I mean, people were terrified of him. He continued the terror.
He was a brilliant administrator of terror. And later he ran the nuclear bomb administration. So it was
thanks to him that the Soviet Union got the A-Bomb. And of course, that was his huge contribution to
history and he knew that. He knew if he failed as well he might well lose his head for it.

LAMB: Where did you find Marfa Peshkova?

MONTEFIORE: All of them were through sort of friends of friends of friends. This littlemosaic.

LAMB: Do you speak Russian?

MONTEFIORE: Quite badly, but good enough to -- good enough to get to know these people.

LAMB: Where did you find her?

MONTEFIORE: Marfa Peshkova?

LAMB: Yes, physically, where is she?

MONTEFIORE: She is still living on Gorky`s, her grandfather`s, estate, which is just outside
Moscow. Gorky the most famous writer of the Stalin period. And -- so she was like a child of complete
privilege. She was the ultimate Soviet princess. I mean, she and Stalin`s daughter -- it was not for nothing
they were best friends, they were the two -- they were the children of the two most -- they were the families
of the two most famous people in the Soviet Union.

LAMB: And you talked to Svetlana -- or did you talk to Svetlana?

MONTEFIORE: Right, I never spoke