really good friends. And Heyman was supposed to be, from a creative standpoint, working with me and whatnot. And he was with Punk all day and they were discussing business and what they were going to do and it wasn't doing me any favors and I knew that."

Ryback added, "Paul knew he had to get away from me because I wanted to kill him at the time and he had went to Vince and Punk and they didn't do me any favors in there, talking to Vince."

Ryback said he had one final discussion with Heyman where he cut a two-hour long promo on him as 'The Advocate' held a butterknife.

"I had one last discussion with Paul at the catering table in which he bought me beers for probablyabout two hours and I cut a two hour promo on him, everything, and just what I thought of him, and how he did his business with me, and I didn't appreciate it. And he held a butterknife in his hand, holding it nervously for two hours. Jim, I kid you not, and Punk walked around [in] circles the entire time, like he was going to try to do something while I was talking with Paul, cutting this promo on him."

In Ryback's view, he had issues with Punk and Cena because they occupied the top positions in WWE and they were trying to protect their spots.

"You've got to remember, when you're dealing at the WWE level, and you're dealing with those top spots, you're dealing with millions of