well its a nice phone no doubt ..for its price for a 2003 smartphone its very nice indeedbut the problem of the joystick in the middle is a tad bit odd ...you push it down for a "select button"but some times it dosnt always work ...but it is a nice phone ...i like tha capability of the expandable sd card ... don't buy a sd card thats over 1gig big other wise you will have to format a 2or4 gig SD card to the FAT32 file system Vs. the FAT file system for 1 gig and below...