I had got the 8200 for my birthday. its a great phone and all such as taking great pictures having good service and looking real good. the only bad thing about this phone is if you buy it get a extended battary pack and by a covor case because it srach up easy. instead of that its a great phone the only reason i sold it because i went and bought the treo 600. Ps the ring tones are not as loud as they should be.