2011/06/15/#ubuntu+1.txt

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[01:33] <Andre_Gondim> is there any workaround to have ubuntu one on at oneiric?
[01:33] <Ian_Corne> I'm guessing if you're not using NM
[01:34] <Ian_Corne> it will work
[01:39] <Andre_Gondim> how do I know if I'm using NM?
[01:42] <Ian_Corne> well
[01:42] <Ian_Corne> nm-tool
[01:42] <Ian_Corne> will tell you if a device is managed
[02:43] <micahg> anyone experiencing overheating with the 3.0 kernel?
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[03:14] <TheBuntu> running kubuntu Oneiric... installed ubuntu desktop.... now how do i remove all of gnome.... gnome 3 is great on 11.04.... but on Oneiric... it sucks
[03:37] <TheBuntu> How do i remove gnome from Oneiric
[03:37] <IdleOne> apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <TheBuntu> IdleOne: thats only removing that one package
[03:39] <IdleOne> hmm not sure anymore with all the gnome3 stuff
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[07:30] <litropy> Not sure if this changed since OO: what is the wifi applet in the menu bar called?
[07:39] <litropy> nm-applet. thanks.
[07:47] <ripps> It seems that Running Virtualbox causes Unity to glitch and the Dock no longer hides... ever. Restarting Compiz doesn't even help, I have to restart the Xserver.
[08:54] <Radicalsouthern> has anyone ever dealt with this type of error guys?
[08:54] <Radicalsouthern> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[08:54] <Radicalsouthern> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) utility
[11:30] <Ian_Corne> yofel: there's an official update out for nvidia
[11:30] <Ian_Corne> trying it atm
[12:42] <Ian_Corne> ah with the new update, I can use unity again
[12:42] <Ian_Corne> but nvidia still doesn't work on 3.0.0
[12:42] <Ian_Corne> anyone confirm?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:03] <Ian_Corne> hello
[13:04] <BluesKaj> I have DD, DTS , or mkv enbedded audio working with movies , but no wav, flac, mp3,wma, or other audio only codecs that comprise most of the music files have no audio output, the backend is gstreamer..     The audio test in phonon works with spdif out IEC958 digital out only.Wonder if anyone else has encountered this with the Realtek ALC1200
[13:06] <BluesKaj> beem searching for the audio libs that might be missing , but I'm not sure what are titles as anymore
[13:06] <BluesKaj> the titles and names
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Hi Ian_Corne
[13:08] <BluesKaj> !wav
[13:08] <BluesKaj> !info wav
[13:08] <ubottu> Package wav does not exist in oneiric
[13:09] <BluesKaj> !info mp3
[13:09] <ubottu> Package mp3 does not exist in oneiric
[13:09] <elros> BluesKaj: the easiest way to get tons of codecs is to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:10] <elros> the usual warnings about knowing your countrys copyright laws apply
[13:10] <BluesKaj> eiros , yup that's done , as I said the movie audio is fine the music audio is nonexistant
[13:12] <BluesKaj> I don't have any digital versions on my hdd that I don't already own on cd or vinyl
[13:13] <BluesKaj> that's the cpoyright law in Canada
[13:21] <yofel> Ian_Corne: the archive update of 270 is supposed to work with 3.0 though
[13:21] <yofel> that's what the changelog says at least
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[13:33] <Ian_Corne> hmm
[13:33] <Ian_Corne> then it's me :(
[13:34] <Ian_Corne> hmm no log file in /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current/270.41.19/build
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[16:20] <Ian_Corne> hmm, google chrome doesn't show to be active in the unity side bar
[16:20] <Ian_Corne> but it is there
[16:20] <Ian_Corne> and is active..
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[16:20] <Ian_Corne> in fact, it doesn't even show up anymore when i relaunch it
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[16:41] <MechanisM> hello I need help! yesterday I installed updates with linux-kernel 3.0 + new nvidia-drivers and today when I wanted to start pc it's not booting in graphic mode. I even cannot see menu for recovery or safe mode
[16:41] <MechanisM> now I'm in live cd
[16:42] <Ian_Corne> MechanisM: so grub doesn't work either?
[16:43] <MechanisM> grub booting all. I see how started postgre server, how started other programs in console. but on starting sendmail it's freezing and I can't run any command
[16:43] <Ian_Corne> tried ctrl+alt+f1?
[16:43] <Ian_Corne> for me it just doesn't start the x server
[16:44] <Ian_Corne> so i can reboot an pick the older kernel
[16:44] <MechanisM> nope yet
[16:44] <MechanisM> I can't pick anything
[16:44] <Ian_Corne> at grub?
[16:44] <MechanisM> I can't see choices
[16:44] <Ian_Corne> did you remove the old kernels then?
[16:44] <MechanisM> nope it's there
[16:46] <MechanisM> I can edit files of my broken system from live cd. what should I do to enable grub menu for recovery and other options
[16:47] <Ian_Corne> try running grub update first
[16:47] <Ian_Corne> and see if it detects the kernels
[16:47] <MechanisM> before this yesterday update system was so stable and fine
[16:47] <MechanisM> how can I run? I said I cannot get access to commandline it's freezed
[16:47] <MechanisM> it's freezing before user login
[16:48] <MechanisM> when sendmail starts it's freezing
[16:48] <Ian_Corne> well you are on a live cd
[16:48] <MechanisM> I can't enter commands in old system only can edit files from live cd
[16:49] <Ian_Corne> so just chroot
[16:49] <Ian_Corne> to your system
[16:49] <MechanisM> how?
[16:49] <Ian_Corne> mount /dev/"yourrootdevice" /mnt
[16:49] <Ian_Corne> mount -t bind /dev/ /mnt/dev
[16:49] <Ian_Corne> mount -t bind /sys /mnt/sys
[16:49] <Ian_Corne> mount -t bind /sys /mnt/proc
[16:49] <Ian_Corne> mount -t bind /proc /mnt/proc *
[16:50] <Ian_Corne> and then chroot /mnt
[16:50] <Ian_Corne> i think that should do the trick
[16:50] <Ian_Corne> it's been a while tho :)
[16:50] <Ian_Corne> hmm don't do /sys
[16:50] <Ian_Corne> i'm not sure about that one anymore :)
[16:50] <arif-ali> no need to do sys,
[16:51] <arif-ali> dev and proc should be sufficient
[16:51] <arif-ali> I do this quite regularly
[16:51] <Ian_Corne>  /proc/sys maybe
[16:51] <arif-ali> if you have /proc, you have /proc/sys
[16:51] <MechanisM> I think all I need is disable nvidia drivers and thats all and when I boot I'll install it again
[16:51] <Ian_Corne> arif-ali: hmm
[16:52] <Ian_Corne> MechanisM: nuking your Xorg should do that just fine :)
[16:52] <Ian_Corne> and then you can work from your real system
[16:52] <MechanisM> nuking?
[16:52] <Ian_Corne> or renaming it to something else
[16:52] <MechanisM> what thats means?
[16:52] <arif-ali> Ian_Corne, I do it quite regularly with setting up stateless images etc, and I I had to do it recently with the wifi issue I had
[16:53] <MechanisM> I tried remove rename xorg.conf
[16:53] <MechanisM> one time it's worked and I loaded but after restart it's not booting again
[16:54] <Ian_Corne> if you just want to disable the nvidia driver, you don't even have to chroot
[16:54] <MechanisM> I dunno how to chroot
[16:54] <MechanisM> I saw your commands but I dunno my root disk
[16:54] <Ian_Corne> you don't have to
[16:54] <MechanisM> coz I have a lot of hdds
[16:55] <Ian_Corne> you still need to mount your root disk
[16:55] <Ian_Corne> so just mount
[16:55] <Ian_Corne> check if it's the root partition
[16:55] <Ian_Corne> and if not, unmount
[16:55] <Ian_Corne> rinse, repeat
[16:55] <MechanisM> mate
[16:55] <MechanisM> maybe you'll help me via TeamViewer?
[16:56] <Ian_Corne> no
[16:56] <MechanisM> ok
[16:56] <Ian_Corne> I'm too busy for that
[16:56] <Ian_Corne> but can I ask you, why are you on +1
[16:57] <MechanisM> coz I'm was in #ubuntu but when ppl saw I'm asking about 11.10 they said go to +1
[16:57] <Ian_Corne> nono, why are you running the alpha version
[16:57] <MechanisM> I'm tryin to recover my ubuntu 11.10
[16:57] <MechanisM> it was fine and stable
[16:58] <MechanisM> for me
[16:58] <Ian_Corne> yes, but i'm wondering why you are running 11.10
[16:58] <MechanisM> coz I like all new and fresh
[16:58] <Ian_Corne> ok :)
[16:58] <MechanisM> and send bug reports
[16:58] <MechanisM> on ubuntu 11.04 I was from alpha too
[16:59] <Ian_Corne> well, as I said, you'll have to mount all your /dev/sd{a,b,c,...}{1,2,3,4,..} devices
[16:59] <Ian_Corne> and check which one is the root partition
[16:59] <Ian_Corne> i don't know any other method of finding out what your root partition is
[16:59] <MechanisM> maybe grub config?
[17:00] <arif-ali> the grub config will be in your root partition
[17:00] <Ian_Corne> if you can get into that, you can check which partition houses the device yes
[17:00] <Ian_Corne> err the root
[17:01] <Ian_Corne> but arif-ali if he can "edit" the grub entry to 3.0 kernel, he can check which device is being target as root device
[17:01] <arif-ali> true
[17:02] <Ian_Corne> you can also check the bootable flags ofcource
[17:02] <Ian_Corne> gparted should show that
[17:02] <Ian_Corne> but multiple partitions could have that flag
[17:02] <MechanisM> http://pastebin.com/xDXfSZSz
[17:04] <Ian_Corne> it's /dev/sda1
[17:04] <MechanisM> and what should I do next?
[17:05] <Ian_Corne> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[17:05] <Ian_Corne> cd /mnt
[17:05] <Ian_Corne> cd /mnt/etc/X11/
[17:05] <Ian_Corne> mv xorg.conf xorg.conf_backup
[17:05] <Ian_Corne> reboot
[17:06] <MechanisM> I said that I tried it
[17:06] <MechanisM> and nothing changes
[17:06] <Ian_Corne> how did you try it
[17:07] <Ian_Corne> when you didn't know what your root device was?
[17:07]  * Ian_Corne is confused
[17:08] <MechanisM> when somebody said I need to chroot in it
[17:08] <Ian_Corne> well how did you even get your grub.cfg if you don't know the partition  :p
[17:08] <Ian_Corne> MechanisM: I'm sorry I think we're just confusing eachother
[17:08] <Ian_Corne> I'm gonna have to go
[17:08] <MechanisM> I just mounted it in nautilus
[17:08] <Ian_Corne> I admit defeat
[17:08] <Ian_Corne> oh right
[17:08] <Ian_Corne> :D
[17:08] <Ian_Corne> that works too ofcource..
[17:08] <Ian_Corne> so did you rename the xorg.conf file?
[17:09] <MechanisM> yes
[17:09] <Ian_Corne> and after reboot nothing?
[17:09] <MechanisM> I tried it earlier and after reboot, nothing changes
[17:09] <MechanisM> not notrhing
[17:09] <MechanisM> the same
[17:09] <Ian_Corne> yes, hanging at sendmail
[17:09] <MechanisM> I see commandline and see how programs starting
[17:09] <Ian_Corne> you can check the logs in var/log/
[17:10] <Ian_Corne> but as I've said, I've got to go now
[17:10] <MechanisM> ok thanxx and bye
[17:11] <arif-ali> MechanisM, have you checked the logs?, like Ian_Corne suggested
[17:11] <MechanisM> yes reading it now
[17:11] <MechanisM> boot.log
[17:11] <arif-ali> maybe worth looking at daemon.log, messages, kern.log and syslog
[17:12] <dsathe> linux 3 has issue with 270.41
[17:12] <dsathe> use 275
[17:12] <dsathe> :P
[17:12] <MechanisM> nvidia?
[17:12] <dsathe> yes
[17:12] <dsathe> 275 came out yesterday
[17:12] <MechanisM> I can't use now coz I can't even login
[17:13] <dsathe> you can
[17:13] <MechanisM> nope I can't
[17:13] <arif-ali> same way, using chrooting system
[17:13] <dsathe> not even tty
[17:13] <dsathe> ?
[17:13] <dsathe> like recovery ? MechanisM ??
[17:13] <Ian_Corne> he says he doesn't see those in the grub menu when he boots
[17:14] <MechanisM> yes I can't see menu to choose kernel or recovery
[17:14] <arif-ali> he could change grub when you boot, and add 1 at the end
[17:14] <dsathe> aaah
[17:14] <Ian_Corne> have you tried holding shift
[17:14] <dsathe> use a live disk
[17:14] <Ian_Corne> while booting?
[17:14] <Ian_Corne> to see grub?
[17:14] <arif-ali> that will get you into recovery
[17:14] <Ian_Corne> if you don't have any other OS installed, grub will not show
[17:14] <Ian_Corne> I think
[17:14] <dsathe> resinstall grub
[17:14] <MechanisM> I'm in live cd already
[17:14] <dsathe> chroot is the way ;)
[17:14] <dsathe> grub install
[17:14] <MechanisM> I dunno how
[17:15] <Ian_Corne> MechanisM: can you try by rebooting while holding shift for me please?
[17:15] <MechanisM> I have only ubuntu 11.10 and thats all
[17:15] <Ian_Corne> i don't get it..
[17:15] <arif-ali> well Ian_corne showed you earlier, chroot is the best and easiest way
[17:15] <MechanisM> hold shift while booting?
[17:15] <Ian_Corne> yes
[17:15] <MechanisM> how can I chroot?
[17:16] <arif-ali> mount the files as suggested
[17:16] <arif-ali> and then use chroot <folder>
[17:16] <arif-ali> you will be in the FS as it was the machine
[17:16] <MechanisM> I mounted it from nautilus
[17:16] <arif-ali> k, in  command line run the following commands
[17:16] <arif-ali> mkdir /mnt/disk
[17:17] <arif-ali> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/disk
[17:17] <arif-ali> mount -o bind /proc /mnt/disk/proc
[17:17] <arif-ali> mount -o bind /dev /mnt/disk/dev
[17:17] <arif-ali> then do chroot /mnt/disk
[17:17] <Ian_Corne> ah -o
[17:17] <Ian_Corne> i said -t :)
[17:17] <arif-ali> -t is for filesystems
[17:18] <Ian_Corne> yes, my bad :)
[17:18] <MechanisM> I've done all commands and no errors
[17:18] <MechanisM> what next?
[17:18] <arif-ali> k, now you should be able to navigate as it is the main OS of your machine
[17:19] <MechanisM> ohh ok
[17:19] <arif-ali> on the command line I mean
[17:19] <arif-ali> not via nautilus
[17:19] <MechanisM> I understand
[17:19] <arif-ali> so you could change /etc/default/grub to say that you want the recovery
[17:20] <arif-ali> and do a update-grub
[17:20] <arif-ali> and then reboot and use the recovery to do things that way
[17:20] <arif-ali> or you could use wget to download the new drivers and install using the command line
[17:20] <MechanisM> what should I add in grub to enable recovery menu?
[17:21] <arif-ali> change /etc/default/grub
[17:21] <arif-ali> GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY to false
[17:21] <arif-ali> then re-run update-grub
[17:22] <MechanisM> ok thanxx
[17:22] <arif-ali> you should see extra entried with recovery in as well
[17:22] <arif-ali> in the grub.cfg
[17:23] <MechanisM> now I can't start gedit from terminal coz of chroot I see error from nvidia
[17:24] <arif-ali> use nano or vi
[17:24] <arif-ali> command line
[17:24] <Ian_Corne> disaster waiting to happen atm :p
[17:25] <MechanisM> ok nevermind I'll reinstall it. just need to backup files
[17:27] <MechanisM> hmm how to save changes in vi?
[17:27] <Ian_Corne> if you're unable to handle these basic tasks, I would advise you to stay on the stable ubuntu release and just work with ppa's to get the newest versions of programs you desire
[17:27] <Ian_Corne> :w
[17:28] <MechanisM> no I'm don't want to runaway from problems I want to solve it.
[17:28] <Ian_Corne> you're not solving them by just reinstalling :)
[17:28] <MechanisM> how to save in vi?
[17:28] <Ian_Corne> :w
[17:28] <MechanisM> I mean't I changed my mind
[17:28] <MechanisM> I'm willing edit it to recover
[17:29] <arif-ali> he meant to save in vi use :w
[17:29] <arif-ali> and to then quit use :q
[17:29] <arif-ali> or both at the same time :wq
[17:29] <Ian_Corne> or :x
[17:29] <arif-ali> yeah, or that
[17:29] <MechanisM> hmm
[17:30] <MechanisM>  I only see :w and nothing changes
[17:30] <arif-ali> I just have a habit of using :wq
[17:30] <Ian_Corne> yeah me too
[17:30] <MechanisM> I need to type ":" + "w" right?
[17:31] <arif-ali> you won't see necessarily on screen, if anything changes
[17:31] <arif-ali> yeah, at the bottom left
[17:31] <arif-ali> you will see a : and w
[17:31] <arif-ali> and then press enter
[17:31] <yofel> you could press 'ZZ' to, that will save and quit (not sure if that's vim only)
[17:31] <arif-ali> yofel, not used that one
[17:32] <Ian_Corne> works yofel
[17:32] <MechanisM> :w + enter just moves to new line coz of enter
[17:33] <arif-ali> you need to press "Esc"
[17:33] <arif-ali> and then :w
[17:33] <arif-ali> obviously you need to remove the :w from the text now
[17:33] <MechanisM> ok now better
[17:34] <MechanisM> ok rebooting
[17:34] <MechanisM> thnxx guys!!
[17:34] <arif-ali> did you check your grub.cfg, if it had the recovery section?
[17:35] <MechanisM> ohh not yet
[17:35] <arif-ali> and did you do the update-grub?
[17:35] <MechanisM> yep
[17:36] <MechanisM> don't see any recovery enable/disable
[17:37] <codemonkey1337> guys, I need help, I'm trying to install a newer version of ubuntu over an older version of ubuntu, but whenever I try and partition the drives, the program (and gparted) can't see any of my pre-existing parititons. However, when I do an fdisk -l, I can see all the partitions that already exist!
[17:37] <codemonkey1337> http://s1125.photobucket.com/albums/l594/venom104/?action=view&current=problem.png
[17:37] <arif-ali> MecanisM, can you see the grub menu?
[17:37] <MechanisM> no
[17:38] <arif-ali> you need to be able to do that, to see the recovery stuff as well
[17:38] <arif-ali> what is the contents of /etc/default/grub
[17:41] <MechanisM> I enabled it in /etc/default/grub
[17:42] <MechanisM> but can't see how to enable it in grub.cfg
[17:42] <arif-ali> all I was saying it to check your grub.cfg, to see if it has added it
[17:43] <jbicha> codemonkey1337: did you try asking in #ubuntu? this channel is for the development release
[17:43] <codemonkey1337> okay thanks
[17:43] <MechanisM> Cannot find list of partitions!  (Try mounting /sys.)
[17:43] <MechanisM> done
[17:43] <codemonkey1337> I'll do that
[17:44] <arif-ali> k, from your previous pastebin, I see that it is already there, but you need to get into the menu ....
[17:44] <arif-ali> hmmm, I need to figure how I did that now
[17:47] <arif-ali> http://pastebin.com/iBKcb3eA, this is what I have in mine, and I have the menu coming up
[17:48] <MechanisM> I forgot to say that commandline also says /dev/udev is not writable and moving back to /dev/.udev
[17:49] <MechanisM> but it's appears always since I installed 11.10
[17:49] <MechanisM> and system loaded even with it.
[17:49] <MechanisM> I tried to find /dev/udev but don't seen it. so don't chmoded it
[17:50] <arif-ali> that shouldn't be a problem, if wasn't causing a problem before, it should be ok now
[17:50] <arif-ali> when you do a Ctrl-Alt-F1, do you see CLI? where you could log in?
[17:50] <MechanisM> I can't properly run "update-grub"
[17:51] <MechanisM> coz it's says that I need to mount sys
[17:51] <MechanisM> Cannot find list of partitions! (Try mounting /sys.)
[17:51] <MechanisM> done
[17:53] <MechanisM> why canonical not managed to add recovery functions in live cd?
[17:54] <arif-ali> there is a way, by adding extra to the command line
[17:54] <arif-ali> like adding "single"  or "1"
[17:54] <MechanisM> so how to mount sys?
[17:55] <MechanisM> to run grub-update
[17:55] <MechanisM> update-grub*
[17:55] <arif-ali> mount -t sysfs none /sys
[17:56] <MechanisM> ok done
[17:56] <MechanisM> generated new grub.cfg
[17:58] <MechanisM> ok rebooting with fingers crossed
[18:07] <Ian_Corne> I think he could have just used shift while booting
[18:07] <Ian_Corne> to pop up grub
[18:07] <Ian_Corne> bu
[18:18] <MechanisM_> ok I'm booted successfully.
[18:18] <MechanisM_> just lost my themes and icons
[18:18] <MechanisM_> thanx for all who helped me!
[18:28] <CarlFK> what's the command to upgrade from natty to oneiric?
[18:29] <CarlFK> apt... -d  something
[18:29] <OneiricOne> do-release-upgrade -d
[18:31] <CarlFK> thanks.
[18:32] <CarlFK> 'Calculating the changes"  is it going to "are you sure?" me any more?  I want to go get lunch
[18:34] <CarlFK> "Fetching and installing the upgrade can take several hours. Once the download has finished, the process cannot be cancelled.  y/n? "  grumble...
[18:34] <CarlFK> get on with it!
[18:34] <arif-ali> maybe a -y option should be available ;)
[18:41] <bjsnider> it is now obvious to me that canonical could have created extensions and customized themes that would have modified gnome-shell to look and act almost exactly like unity. they didn't really need to create a whole desktop shell from scratch at all
[18:43] <bjsnider> for example: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/soundmenu-like-gnome-shell-extension.html
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[19:29] <BluesKaj> suddenly after updates , no audio from wav, flac, mp3 or wma files , ..spdif out on alsa to my DAC , no analog connections on this setup .Wrapped digital audio like DTS and DD signals work fine
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[20:04] <Ian_Corne> another nvidia-current update
[20:04] <Ian_Corne> lets see if this one works
[20:26] <Ian_Corne> nu zegt ma als ge de muziek hoort eh
[20:26] <Ian_Corne> dan zettek em af
[20:27] <guntbert> Ian_Corne: wrong window?
[20:28] <Ian_Corne> err
[20:28] <Ian_Corne> yes :p
[20:28] <Ian_Corne> :)
[20:29] <Ian_Corne> i was going to say: nvidia still doesn't work on the -pae kernel
[20:46] <lolcat> guntbert: How so?
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[22:15] <shududy> hi guys
[22:15] <shududy> i ve been using ubuntu 11.10, how can i login?
[22:15] <shududy> on virtualbox