2011/06/29/#ubuntu+1.txt

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[00:03] <Adys> BUGabundo: nvm, needed to upgrade kernel
[00:03] <Adys> its fine now
[00:04] <BUGabundo> ahh
[00:04] <BUGabundo> I had to boot on old 2.x
[00:04] <BUGabundo> cause 3.x won't boot if I have CIFS entries on FSTAB
[00:04] <BUGabundo> how nice, isn't it ?
[00:04] <BUGabundo> and don't even try to set a FSCK on boot
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[01:32] <BUGabundo> nite
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[04:50] <bazhang> !info linux
[04:50] <ubottu> linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.0.2.3 (oneiric), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 all armel powerpc)
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[11:27] <Ian_Corne> lol who was talking about missing icons on the right top?
[11:27] <Ian_Corne> I don't have any anymore :D
[11:51] <RRRRube> I think that may have been me. 'Icons, we don't need no stinking icons!' :)
[13:09] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:12] <Ian_Corne> well, i still like a clock in the bar tho RRRRube :p
[13:15] <RRRRube> Ian_Corne, I read in the Ubuntu forums that it should be fixed some time today hopefully. And I didn't realise just how much I used the clock on the panel until it disappeared!
[13:15] <Ian_Corne> :)
[13:17] <BluesKaj> yup,.sorta like forgetting your watch in the morning
[13:19] <BluesKaj> olf course you guys who are glued to your portable devices whatever they may be, probly don't know what I mean :)
[13:19] <Ian_Corne> I haven't worn a watch in about 9 years now
[13:19] <Ian_Corne> no, 11
[13:19] <Ian_Corne> always had a mobile since then
[13:20] <Ian_Corne> also wtf, I'm already 24..
[13:20] <RRRRube> I only wear a watch when I go to the pub, so I know when last orders are ;)
[13:20] <BluesKaj> heh ..thought so
[13:25] <BluesKaj> well, my device is used mainly for calling wife to pick me up after jams , or for emergencies ...or when we travel, strictly pay as we go...certainly don't live my social life thru it :)
[13:27] <RRRRube> I text and check twitter & email. I actually don't make all that many calls.
[14:06] <em> bazhang: I don't think you should be an unfriendly person and push away volunteers in #ubuntu
[14:07] <tsimpson> em: off-topic chatter is not on topic in #ubuntu, you know that
[14:07] <tsimpson> it's also off-topic here
[14:07] <em> There is no safe place for a user to talk about anything.
[14:08] <tsimpson> there is -ops, or -irc, or in private
[14:22] <coz_> offtopic?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> that's really kinda picky ..seen alot worse offtopic talk go by without comment here
[16:25] <Ian_Corne> does fglrx work yet with OO?
[16:54] <ruhil> i have just upgraded from natty to oneiric but i could not find the tray. Is it not there in oneiric or have i messed up something?
[16:55] <KM0201> the tray?
[16:57] <ruhil> KM0201: yeah the tray , that contains network,bluetooth,user account icon and found at the panel.
[16:57] <KM0201> hmm
[17:06] <Ian_Corne> ruhil: temporary broken
[17:06] <Ian_Corne> it'll be back
[17:07] <ruhil> Ian_Corne: thanks for the information :)
[17:10] <Ian_Corne> 14:15:18 < RRRRube> Ian_Corne, I read in the Ubuntu forums that it should be fixed some time today hopefully. And I didn't realise just how much I used the clock on the panel until it disappeared!
[17:21] <brstquant> Hi, if anyone's around could he/she give  a general synopsis of how stable Oneiric dailies are these days?
[17:24] <ruhil> brstquant: i have been using oneiric for the last 12 hours but i have not faced any major problem or crash though the tray is not tray , which might frustrate at first
[17:25] <brstquant> Hmm, do the new GTK theme, global menubars, overlay scrollbars, &c. all work?
[17:27] <charlie-tca> hm, not quite alpha2 yet, expect a lot of breakage yet
[17:27] <ruhil> brstquant: theme is good but the login screen is still not updated i guess as it gives me a feeling of fedora login :P
[17:28] <brstquant> Yeah, I expect breakage (of course) --- just that I don't think I can even quite start testing if important things (bootability, wifi, somewhat-working gtk3 &c.) aren't there...
[17:29] <brstquant> anyway, thanks for the info!
[17:35] <KM0201> asking if an alpha is stable..lol, interesting
[18:53] <stan> anyone else finding ecryptfs-utils isn't setting up filename encryption  properly?
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[19:17] <dupondje> What file is used as Icon of synaptic in the gnome3 app overview ?
[19:17] <dupondje> cause the resolution of the image is very bad imo
[19:23] <trism> I went to check but got this fun error message instead: gnome-session[19877]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[19:29] <dupondje> Evolution still broken :(
[19:38] <dupondje> damn whats wrong with evolution ?
[19:38] <dupondje> seems it refuses to upgrade :P
[19:45] <trism> seems to install alright here, what's the error?
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[19:53] <dupondje> trism: seems some dependency shizlle :s
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[19:57] <dupondje> a bit of brute force fixed it :p
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[21:00] <stan> how do you start indicators?
[21:09] <trism> stan: if this is a new install, you probably can't at the moment, indicator-applet needs to be rebuilt for libpanelapplet-4-0 since it depends on gnome-panel and gnome-panel breaks on libpanelapplet-3-0
[21:12] <stan> can i rebuild something manually? indicator-applet package looks a bit empty
[21:14] <stan> how do indicators actually work? does unity load the libraries from /usr/lib/indicators3/2 ?
[21:26] <trism> stan: doesn't look like it will be a simple rebuild, going to need to be updated for gnome 3 (I'm sure it is already in progress)
[21:35] <stan> is /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service still used? appears to be looking in /usr/lib/indicators/5 which no longer exists
[21:37] <trism> stan: ahh, I see, I was under the impression unity used indicator-applet to load the indicators. that path is still valid, it is for the gtk2 indicators, if you install the various -gtk2 indicator packages they will work in unity
[21:38] <trism> stan: most of the main indicator packages have been rebuilt for gtk3, which has a different path (pkg-config --variable=indicatordir indicator; or indicator3 for gtk3)
[21:38] <trism> stan: or at least indicator-sound-gtk2 works, which is all I've tested so far
[21:41] <trism> stan: indicator-session-gtk2 works too, which is probably the most important for logging out
[21:45] <trism> stan: good catch
[21:51] <Q-FUNK> am I the only one who suddenly has APT segfault all the time?
[22:03] <trism> Q-FUNK: where in the process is it segfaulting, can you pastebin an example?
[22:04] <Q-FUNK> when updating availables
[22:05] <Daekdroom> I wonder. Are the gtk2 indicators being kept because of XFCE?
[22:06] <charlie-tca> yes
[22:07] <charlie-tca> to the best of my knowledge, at least
[22:07] <charlie-tca> xubuntu will stay with gtk2 for oneiric
[22:09] <genii-around> So my current problem becomes... since i have xubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, and kubuntu-desktop ... are there going to be incompatibilities
[22:10] <micahg> AFAIK xubuntu will stay with GTK2 through the LTS and beyond :)
[22:10] <charlie-tca> probably, genii-around
[22:10] <genii-around> Darn
[22:10] <charlie-tca> since Ubuntu will be gtk3 as much as possible, and Xubuntu will be gtk2 as much as possible, I would expect at least a few issues
[22:11] <charlie-tca> I don't know what will happen with kde, yet
[22:11] <charlie-tca> but kde is not gtk based, is it?
[22:11] <maco> charlie-tca: no, qt
[22:12] <maco> just like Unity-2D
[22:12] <charlie-tca> so that should be okay with both, right?
[22:12] <maco> yep
[22:13] <maco> i dont expect gtk2 an gtk3 apps to fight
[22:13] <maco> they should have different namespaces, i would think
[22:13] <genii-around> hm
[22:13] <maco> otherwise gnome's got quite a rush to rewrite ALL their apps
[22:14] <maco> i can use Qt3 and Qt4 apps on the same desktop
[22:14] <maco> Qt3's bloody ugly, but the apps do work
[22:15]  * micahg thought qt3 was removed from Debian and Ubuntu
[22:16] <yofel> !info libqt3-mt
[22:16] <ubottu> libqt3-mt (source: qt-x11-free): Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8-b-8ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 3253 kB, installed size 8212 kB
[22:16] <yofel> should be gone soon though (hopefully)
[22:17] <yofel> KDE3 leftovers need to be cleaned up first, though most of those ARE gone
[22:17] <genii-around> I still have this odd thing where it looks like Unity is running on my first virtual desktop of plasma-netbook in my kubuntu
[22:17] <yofel> heh, I had nautilus running below plasma-desktop for some reason so I uninstalled gnome again
[22:18] <genii-around> ( doesn't happen with plasma-desktop, just netbook)
[22:46] <BUGabundo> meh
[22:47] <BUGabundo> back to Gnome Classic
[22:47] <BUGabundo> uglier but works
[22:49] <jpds> s/Gnome/girlfriend/
[22:50] <BUGabundo> jpds: send me yours, and ill dump gnome
[22:50] <jpds> Haha.
[22:51] <BUGabundo> :)
[22:51] <BUGabundo> bazinga
[22:53] <BUGabundo> OpenVPN or PPTP ?
[23:37] <Q-FUNK> /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/update: line 42:  2067 Segmentation fault      $APTCACHE dumpavail > $CACHEDIR/available
[23:48] <trism> Q-FUNK: so: apt-cache dumpavail > Packages; segfaults too? might be interesting to see a backtrace: gdb apt-cache; run dumpavail > Packages, then when it crashes, bt (and then q when you're done)
[23:50] <Q-FUNK> yup, segfaults
[23:50] <trism> Q-FUNK: in any case, may want to file a but against apt
[23:50] <trism> Q-FUNK: but = bug
[23:51] <Q-FUNK> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[23:51] <Q-FUNK> 0x002ce003 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
[23:58] <Q-FUNK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/803688
[23:58] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 803688 in apt (Ubuntu) "'apt-get update' segfaults" [Undecided,New]
[23:59] <BUGabundo> ahah
[23:59] <BUGabundo> aptitude ftw ?