2011/09/02/#ubuntu-community-team.txt

[00:03] <doctormo> Hey jono
[00:04] <doctormo> Our LoCo meeting, we're having a talk about Canonical. Some people are wondering what's going on at Canonical these days, non technical stuff.
[00:04] <doctormo> What do you think?
[00:06] <jono> doctormo, what do I think about what?
[00:08] <doctormo> jono: What stuff is happening at Canonical, things like advertising campaigns, deals with OEMs, interesting other stuff to conquest bug #1.
[00:08] <ubot2`> doctormo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug)
[00:08] <jono> doctormo, I don't understand what you asking what I think about though - do you mean is it good that the team are discussing that?
[00:08] <jono> or are you asking me to comment on some things?
[00:08] <doctormo> jono: Yes
[00:08] <jono> erm
[00:09] <jono> which question was that an answer to
[00:09] <jono> ?
[00:09] <jono> <jono> doctormo, I don't understand what you asking what I think about though - do you mean is it good that the team are discussing that?
[00:09] <jono>  or are you asking me to comment on some things?
[00:09] <doctormo> or are you asking me to comment on some things? Yes
[00:09] <jono> well I haven't got time right now, but feel free to send me a bunch of questions and I can follow up via email
[00:10] <doctormo> jono: No problem, the meeting will be over soon. Post some more interesting stuff to your blog. :-)
[00:10] <jono> ok
[00:10] <jono> gotta run, laters!
[00:12] <doctormo> laters
[00:50] <jcastro> hey
[00:50] <jcastro> popey: or AlanBell
[00:50] <jcastro> or I guess doctormo too, since you're english
[00:50] <doctormo> jcastro: Ello, ello, what's awl this then.
[00:51] <jcastro> proper
[00:51] <jcastro> so hey are you into dr. who?
[01:51] <mhall119> who?
[02:42] <akgraner> jcastro, you still around?
[02:43] <akgraner> I replied to your email - once the official countdown banners are announced we'll add one to the fridge - if you all want we can pull the natty one until the official ones have been released
[06:45] <dpm> good morning all
[06:45] <dpm> AlanBell, o/
[06:46] <dpm> just swapped your UADW session so that is on Monday, as discussed yesterday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[07:26] <dholbach> good morning
[07:46] <AlanBell> great, thanks dpm
[07:50] <dpm> AlanBell, no worries, thank you for running the session :)
[07:51] <dpm> hey dholbach
[07:51] <dholbach> hola dpm
[08:17] <nigelb> Mornign folks!
[08:19] <huats> morning !
[08:20] <kim0> Morning all
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[10:08] <nigelb> wow, this is awesome. http://nightly.mozilla.org/
[10:08] <nigelb> I vote we have something like that for our beta pages
[10:17] <czajkowski> ALOHA!
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[14:05] <mhall119> morning
[14:06] <nigelb> Morning!
[14:06] <nigelb> mhall119: congrats on getting that release out.
[14:07] <mhall119> nigelb: thanks
[14:08] <cjohnston> jamming in Orlando
[14:08] <nigelb> OOH RIGHT.
[14:08] <nigelb> I'll be joining you folks
[14:10] <cjohnston> you gonna work on our projects?
[14:10] <cjohnston> jcastro: there is an empty seat at the jam table for you
[14:11] <jcastro> My wife is at work.
[14:11] <nigelb> cjohnston: I'm gonna work on summit.
[14:11] <jcastro> and she has the car
[14:11] <jcastro> wait, I did tell you this right?
[14:11] <nigelb> Yeah :P
[14:11] <nigelb> I remember.
[14:12] <nigelb> cjohnston: did you guys already start?
[14:12] <cjohnston> ya
[14:15] <mhall119> jcastro: are you remote jamming with us today?
[14:16] <jcastro> mhall119: where are you guys at?
[14:16] <mhall119> #ubuntu-website
[14:19] <cjohnston> /14/15
[14:19] <cjohnston> 5
[14:19] <cjohnston> uggh
[14:19] <nigelb> 4
[14:19] <Pici> ls
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[14:56] <dholbach> hey jono
[14:56] <jono> howdy dholbach
[14:56] <jono> about set for the call?
[14:57] <dholbach> jono, yep
[15:00] <dholbach> jono, I started a hangout
[15:00] <jono> dholbach, lets do skype
[15:01] <czajkowski> Aloha folks
[15:01] <dholbach> jono, ok
[15:01] <dholbach> jono, just call when you're ready
[15:01] <czajkowski> tis friday :) weekend of UGJ :)
[15:01] <dholbach> yooohoo! :)
[15:02] <paultag> doctormo: howdy doodie
[15:02] <mhall119> it's friday, friday, gotta Ubuntu Jam on friday
[15:02] <cjohnston> czajkowski: we've been jamming for like 2 hours
[15:02] <czajkowski> cjohnston: sweet
[15:02] <paultag> I'm at work jamming to radiohead
[15:02] <czajkowski> was on a train jyself, then grocery shopping
[15:02] <paultag> sadly, not an ubuntu jam :(
[15:02] <mhall119> course, we haven't actually been working yet
[15:02] <czajkowski> but will do some tomorrow
[15:02] <mhall119> just fixing cjohnston's home network
[15:03] <czajkowski> I need to finish the doc I was working on before I left
[15:06] <jcastro> mhall119: if we had it here I have a nice cache of the archive ....
[15:06] <jcastro> and other amenities
[15:07] <mhall119> jcastro: what archives?
[15:07] <jcastro> the ubuntu one
[15:08] <jcastro> I have a nice PXE installer set up too. The ideal location for your next Jam Party.
[15:08]  * jcastro sounds like a commercial
[15:09] <nigelb> mhall119: THERE'S STILL TIME. DRIVE TO jcastro'S PLACE!
[15:10] <mhall119> jcastro: we're hacking on websites here
[15:10] <mhall119> nigelb: that's 2 hours away, so no
[15:10] <jcastro> I thought it was closer to 3.5 hours
[15:10] <nigelb> depends on how long it takes to get cjohnston's network up.
[15:10] <jcastro> I forgot to mention I have like 22mbit business class internets
[15:10] <nigelb> jcastro: cjohnston drives the fire truck...
[15:11] <nigelb> traffic clears for him
[15:11] <mhall119> jcastro: oh right, i'm thinking statik is 2 hours away
[15:54] <jcastro> jono: kim0: call in 5?
[15:55] <kim0> I'm here
[15:55] <jono> jcastro, kim0 yup
[15:55] <jcastro> jono: hey so g+ now works now that the multiarch thing is sorted
[15:58] <jono> jcastro, kim0 bear with me, need to wrap something real quick before our call
[16:06] <jono> jcastro, kim0 lets do skypew
[16:06] <jono> jcastro, kim0 lets do skype
[16:06] <jcastro> okey
[16:06] <jcastro> ugh
[16:06] <jcastro> I have to reinstall it
[16:06] <jcastro> sec, there's some problem with it in beta
[16:08] <jcastro> ugh, skype is uninstallable for me
[16:09] <jono> ok lets try G+
[16:10] <jono> jcastro, you on as Jill?
[16:10] <nigelb> heh
[16:10] <jcastro> jono: yeah, just call that account
[16:18] <czajkowski> jcastro: you running OO ?
[16:20] <jcastro> yeah
[16:21] <czajkowski> all running smoothly
[16:21] <czajkowski> setting off an upgrade before I head out
[16:22] <jono> czajkowski, working well for me
[16:22] <czajkowski> jono: coolio,
[16:22] <czajkowski> hopefully come back to a nice working OO lappy
[16:22] <nigelb> jcastro: do you use the x220?
[16:22] <nigelb> s/use/own
[16:24] <jcastro> yeah
[16:24] <jcastro> working fine on X220
[16:25] <nigelb> Should. Resist. Buying.
[16:25] <czajkowski> kicking off now :)
[16:25] <czajkowski> on Cypher my tosh
[16:25] <czajkowski>  not the mini 9 just yet though
[16:25] <paultag> mini 9 rulez
[16:26] <czajkowski> paultag: yup, but it runs really well under natty
[16:26] <paultag> I wouldn't know :)
[16:26] <czajkowski> and I also need to buy more space in it tbh
[16:26] <paultag> that's my (only) debian machine
[16:26] <czajkowski> it's just easy to throw in handbag when hopping on a plane
[16:26] <czajkowski> hmm
[16:26] <czajkowski> seems it's having a problem with my mirror
[16:27] <paultag> czajkowski: yar, it fits in the small bit of my backpack - I got the double size battery, it lasts ~6 hoursish
[16:27] <paultag> if I'm not doing something nuts
[16:27] <czajkowski> nods
[16:27] <czajkowski> I used to get 3.5hr outta the batter
[16:27] <paultag> yar, that was about right
[16:27] <czajkowski> but now only about an hr or so
[16:27] <paultag> czajkowski: yeah, there was a kernel issue that caused that, you know
[16:27] <paultag> czajkowski: you might be able to revert it with a magic patch
[16:28] <czajkowski> oh
[16:28] <czajkowski> hmm
[16:28] <czajkowski> thought it was because I bought it back in 08
[16:28] <paultag> yeah some idiot screwed something up last I checked
[16:28] <paultag> in like 2.6.someodd later
[16:28] <paultag> 2.6.38
[16:28] <czajkowski> how about not calling the person that :) these things happen
[16:28] <paultag> ubuntu 11.04
[16:29] <paultag> czajkowski: from this page (because of an upstream linux isssue) - Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat gets over two hours more battery life than Natty Narwhal
[16:29] <paultag> czajkowski: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTU2MA
[16:30] <czajkowski> hmm
[16:30] <czajkowski> locolint is causing my upgrade to stop
[16:30] <czajkowski> as is the patch to stop my machine from randomly restarting
[16:30] <czajkowski> bugger
[16:30] <paultag> czajkowski: wait, what?
[16:31] <paultag> czajkowski: locolint? Oh, is it because of a dep on 2.6?
[16:31] <paultag> if that's it, I'll fix that later on tonight, but yeah, apt-get purge that for now
[16:32] <paultag> actually, speaking of purging, I need to eat
[16:32] <paultag> I'll ttyl, lunch time!
[16:38] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - have a great WE everyone!
[16:38]  * dholbach hugs you all
[16:40] <nigelb> g'nite dholbach
[16:41] <czajkowski> dholbach: bye
[16:43] <jono> czajkowski, you have time for a quick call?
[16:44] <czajkowski> skype ?
[16:44] <jono> czajkowski, yes please
[16:44] <czajkowski> gimmie 5 need to find machine
[16:44] <jono> np
[16:44] <czajkowski> when you sign  in
[16:44] <czajkowski> you'll knw
[16:46] <jono> czajkowski, ready when you are
[16:48] <jono> dpm, still alive? lol
[16:55] <dpm> heya jono, at the airport now, going back home :)
[17:04] <jono> dpm, good week?
[17:04] <dpm> jono, yeah, got quite a bit done and everything on track :)
[17:07] <jono> nice!
[17:36] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/k2nvl/we_are_the_ubuntu_unity_development_team_we_3/
[17:36] <jcastro> paultag: upboat, tell a friend
[17:36] <paultag> jcastro: msg a mod and verify the post
[17:37] <paultag> jcastro: then you can get it confirmed
[17:37] <jcastro> already on it yo
[17:37] <paultag> w0rd
[17:37] <jcastro> just need your upboat
[17:37] <paultag> jcastro: 'twas already done
[17:39] <jcastro> jono: can you tweet this pls: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/k2nvl/we_are_the_ubuntu_unity_development_team_we_3/
[17:40] <jono> jcastro, done
[17:45] <AlanBell> so you need a reddit account to ask questions?
[17:48] <paultag> hey jcastro / jono : do you know who was doing the Google Summer of Code stuff?
[17:48] <jcastro> no clue
[17:48] <jcastro> AlanBell: yeah
[17:49] <paultag> jcastro: I kinda need it - is there any way you can find out?
[17:49] <jcastro> no clue
[17:49] <jcastro> afaik we haven't done gsoc stuff in a long time
[17:49] <paultag> jcastro: we need an approved org that might be able to take fluxbox in to file the PO for the summer work under
[17:49] <jcastro> maybe jono knows
[17:49] <paultag> jcastro: yeah, sure, but since we don't have some things, we were told to find an org that might act on our behalf
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[18:02] <jcastro> AlanBell: nice question!
[18:02] <AlanBell> apparently I have had a reddit account for 5 years
[18:02] <jcastro> heh
[18:04] <AlanBell> can't say I am impressed with it as a platform for this, but I guess there are people who use reddit and don't know about Ubuntu who might get involved
[18:05] <paultag> AlanBell: the average redditor is a college aged nerd who's majoring in CS at a private university
[18:05] <paultag> AlanBell: who enjoys dick jokes
[18:05] <paultag> AlanBell: the ubuntu usage on reddit is 4% of the userbase
[18:06] <paultag> not bad for a site that's in the top percect of sites hit on the internet
[18:06] <jcastro> I think reddit is perfect for this
[18:06] <jcastro> the humor-style is awesome
[18:07] <AlanBell> you have to keep refreshing the page and it won't allow more than one comment every 10 minutes
[18:07] <paultag> AlanBell: if you have a short history
[18:07] <jcastro> the reddit code is oss btw.
[18:08] <paultag> except for spam detection
[18:10] <jono> paultag, at Google?
[18:14] <AlanBell> we are due a new release name from sabdfl, the last .10 announcement was on 17th August
[18:14] <AlanBell> .04 announcement I mean
[18:15] <jcastro> yeah I was just wondering that myself
[18:19] <AlanBell> perfect penguin has to be high up the list
[18:19] <paultag> jcastro: no, @ canonical / ubuntu (whoever)
[18:19] <paultag> erm jono *
[18:19] <paultag> sorry jcastro
[18:27] <jcastro> AlanBell: nah, too obvious
[18:27] <jcastro> also, naming anything "perfect" would be a bad idea
[18:28] <AlanBell> well it is an LTS
[18:29] <jcastro> I am hoping for "peregrine" for the animal
[18:29] <jcastro> it's the perfect hunter
[18:29] <jcastro> the fastest thing in the sky
[18:31] <AlanBell> well the orca install of B2 is a complete and utter failure
[18:32] <jcastro> AlanBell: do you know the a11y guy? he's on #ayatana sometimes
[18:32] <jcastro> it's the guy from imendo
[18:32] <AlanBell> Luke?
[18:32] <AlanBell> themuso?
[18:32] <jcastro> he does alot of it but there's like another dedicate guy
[18:32] <jcastro> not luke
[18:32] <jcastro> one sec, let me look him up
[18:33] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/~apinheiro
[18:33] <jcastro> ah sorry, that should have been igalia not imendo
[18:37] <AlanBell> API from gnome a11y works for Canonical?
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[19:10] <jcastro> OH MAN.
[19:10] <jcastro> Guess what I just remembered
[19:10] <jcastro> Monday is a holiday! \o/
[19:12] <mhall119> yup
[19:32] <jcastro> jono: hey did the ubuntu tweak guy ever respond back?
[19:32] <jcastro> seems like that whole thing fizzled
[19:33] <jono> jcastro, I haven't heard from him for a while
[19:33] <jcastro> I posted to the list but got nothing but crickets
[19:34]  * AlanBell is finding B2 too crashy to test
[19:36] <jcastro> which part is crashy?
[19:36] <AlanBell> fresh clean install and the first thing it does is pop up that it detected a system problem
[19:36] <AlanBell> then the global menus flash on and off every second
[19:38] <jcastro> oh, with the first one that always happens to me
[19:38] <jcastro> and then I get sick of it and turn off apport some days
[19:38] <AlanBell> the bottom row of expanded categories doesn't display so lenses are screwed
[19:38] <AlanBell> global menu seems to have given up crashing now and decided to be global
[19:39] <jcastro> oh hey
[19:39] <jcastro> did you upgrade today?
[19:39] <AlanBell> but alt+f doesn't let me navigate the file menu
[19:39] <jcastro> there was a unity update
[19:39] <AlanBell> clean install of the B2 iso
[19:39] <AlanBell> but I will update
[19:40] <AlanBell> global menu doesn't actually appear to be a menu that is navigable
[19:42] <AlanBell> so global menus can't be used with the keyboard /o\
[22:42] <akgraner> AlanBell, I updated and had to run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^' before I rebooted   -  I still got the detected a system problem error and filed that bug but other stuff seems to be working
[22:52] <AlanBell> I have it running reasonably well in virtualbox
[22:52] <AlanBell> it seems more crashy with orca running, which would turn on the at-spi2 stuff
[22:53] <jono> mhall119, cjohnston would you mind adding the new feeds on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds ?
[23:01] <akgraner> jcastro, someone should tell the people in London that - I have calls all morning on Monday :-/ (ok so I completely forgot it was a holiday so I guess that's my fault)
[23:04]  * AlanBell agrees, Monday should be a holiday
[23:36] <mhall119> jono: who's supposed to be decided what gets added and what doesn't?
[23:36] <jono> mhall119, if they are an approved loco and it looks like the feed has loco content then it is a +1
[23:36] <mhall119> the wiki isn't write-restricted, so anybody can add their feed to that list
[23:36] <jono> that's all
[23:36] <jono> yeah, anyone can add, just a cursory check to see if they are approved and are posting loco content
[23:37] <mhall119> are there any loco-council people online?
[23:37] <paultag> mhall119: yeah
[23:37] <paultag> mhall119: next time a ping will get a faster response :)
[23:37] <mhall119> paultag: hey, have you tried getting to the loco-directory's admin to add feeds?
[23:38] <mhall119> paultag: ping
[23:38] <mhall119> paultag: ping
[23:38] <mhall119> paultag: ping
[23:38] <mhall119> you said faster
[23:38] <paultag> mhall119: no, would you like me to try? I hit it unauth'd at work and it came up with the django menu
[23:38] <mhall119> paultag: you'll have to log in with sso before going to /admin/
[23:38] <paultag> mhall119: Aye, that's what I said
[23:38] <paultag> :)
[23:39] <mhall119> so are you trying again?
[23:39] <paultag> mhall119: I asked if you'd like me to try :)
[23:39] <paultag> mhall119: shall I?
[23:40] <paultag> mhall119: just did, it works :)
[23:40] <mhall119> yes please
[23:40] <mhall119> paultag: would you be so kind as to add feeds from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds that meet the criteria jono mentioned?
[23:40] <paultag> mhall119: I'm busy now, but I'll test one now
[23:40] <paultag> mhall119: do you guys have rights?
[23:42] <paultag> mhall119: just added ubuntu-uk OBO AlanBell
[23:42] <paultag> mhall119: it went through
[23:42] <jono> many thanks paultag
[23:43] <paultag> jono: sure thing
[23:44] <paultag> mhall119: I added a processed column on the table. I'll work through it when I'm not programming
[23:45] <mhall119> paultag: cjohnston and I have permission, yes, but I'd prefer that the loco-council make the decisions that are based on merit
[23:46] <mhall119> thanks paultag
[23:46] <paultag> mhall119: sure. All the feeds on there look good, except for Sergio Meneses
[23:47] <paultag> but that's just by URL and because I don't know him
[23:47] <paultag> so I'll just have to look @ content and who he is
[23:47] <paultag> but I'm sure it's fine