2011/09/10/#kubuntu.txt

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[01:42] <ubuntu_> Hi! After installing Kubuntu I desided to move Windows 7 partitions around to find out what may happen. As expected, the sistem won't start even GRUB. May someone google a solution for me, pleas?
[01:43] <ubuntu_> Hello
[01:44] <claydoh> !grub
[01:44] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[01:46] <ubuntu_> Oh, yes, sorry! I'm on the latest Kubuntu and no, it wasn't after installing Windows, it's because I wanted to delete the recovery partition of Windows 7
[01:47] <ubuntu_> Yes, I know it's kind of an odd thing to do, but I'm trying to make myself a documents partition to share between the two OSes
[01:48] <ubuntu_> ubottu, I'm checking your links, thank you
[01:48] <ubottu> ubuntu_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[01:49] <ubuntu_> Oh, my goodness, how on earth? :P thanks, claydoh, then :)
[01:50] <claydoh> ubuntu_: you should stillbe able to recover the grub boot info the same way, iirc
[01:51] <ubuntu_> OK, thanks
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[02:04] <ubuntu_> Now I have another little problem... Boot-repair is asking me for a password, but I'm in a live CD boot, so, I don't have any password, but it won't accept a blank space... claydoh?
[02:04] <claydoh> ubuntu_:  hmm
[02:05] <ubuntu_> I think I'll have to use a repair disk on a USB drive
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[03:45] <Schala> I'm wondering... It's said that Kubuntu uses the most resources/memory out of the four Ubuntu distributions. Is this still less than Windows 7 Aero or... about the same?
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[05:22] <Crell> Hi folks.  I want to give the Kubuntu 11.10 beta a try on my laptop.  It doesn't appear to have a download ISO that I have found yet, though.  Is there one available, or should I install 11.04 and then upgrade?
[05:24] <moetunes> !11.10
[05:24] <ubottu> Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[05:25] <Crell> Since that link has no downloads on it, I assume that's the short version of "go ask in the other channel"?
[05:42] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:42] <ubottu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:52] <westy> is there a channel for the beta?
[05:54] <westy> i am trying to update the beta (not update to the beta) and it seems stuck at preparing kde-data
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[06:06] <mario_> #nick testd
[06:06] <mario_> #join bandung
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[06:47] <transformers> hi every one my new web site about KDE plasma project God save Kubuntu and Canonical
[06:47] <transformers> http://kubuntu-11-10.narod.ru/
[06:49] <moetunes> an ad ?
[06:49] <transformers> what?
[06:52] <transformers> Swiss group Loco where are you men`s ? kubuntu - ubuntu group in Swiss
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[06:54] <transformers> hi every one
[06:55] <transformers> wine in packed play on linux not working what can i do help please
[06:57] <moetunes> !wine
[06:57] <ubottu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[06:59] <transformers> New web site about Kubuntu screenshot`s and desctop plasma http://kubuntu-11-10.narod.ru/
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[07:06] <transformers> LjL-Temp hi
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[08:48] <_pez_> greetings
[08:50] <transformers> hello
[08:50]  * _pez_ needs help
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[09:29] <transformers> how can i change home page in kubuntu recond browser ?
[09:30] <jepong> click the wrench
[09:30] <jepong> click Configure Rekonq
[09:35] <transformers> what mean wrench ? my lang. russian
[09:35] <jepong> sorry...i mean the one in the right most
[09:35] <jepong> the one that looks like a tool
[09:36] <jepong> just below the close button of rekonq
[09:36] <transformers> my mouse for left hand
[09:37] <shingles> Could someone point me to a kubuntu 11.4 Samba guide ? Thanks :)
[09:54] <transformers> SHINGLES have a quastion about Kubuntu &?
[10:02] <shingles> To enable or disable automount open a terminal and type gconf-editor followed by the [Enter] key.
[10:02] <shingles> Why cant i do that in kubuntu 11.4 ?
[10:03] <BlaXpirit> Hey, when is KDE 4.7.1 coming to Kubuntu?
[10:04] <DaemonFC> it's already in Oneiric
[10:05] <BlaXpirit> well OK, but why would I install beta stuff?
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[10:06] <DaemonFC> because Beta is just a word
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[10:07] <BlaXpirit> whatever. I tried it, not without problems.
[10:07] <BlaXpirit> right now I have Natty and want KDE 4.7.1
[10:08] <DaemonFC> I've had more problems with Natty than with Oneiric
[10:08] <DaemonFC> and they introduced a configuration problem in Natty that's still there
[10:09] <BlaXpirit> OK, but i'll still wait for the release.
[10:09] <DaemonFC> the X server doesn't terminate when you log out so the system just hangs :)
[10:09] <DaemonFC> took me a few minutes to figure out how to solve that
[10:10] <BlaXpirit> umm, will Oneiric (what a strange name) have KDE 4.7.2 in it?
[10:10] <DaemonFC> probably
[10:10] <BlaXpirit> that's nice.
[10:10] <DaemonFC> it's due to be released a few weeks before Oneiric is
[10:10] <BlaXpirit> 2 weeks, i yhink
[10:11] <DaemonFC> you could try the Kubuntu backports PPA
[10:11] <BlaXpirit> i have it.
[10:11] <DaemonFC> it's not officially supported
[10:11] <DaemonFC> it "could eat babies"
[10:11] <DaemonFC> but your whole system wouldn't be "untested"
[10:11] <BlaXpirit> it's fine for me
[10:12] <BlaXpirit> but even that ppa is "quiet" about 4.7.1.
[10:12] <DaemonFC> it was unusually large for a point release
[10:13] <DaemonFC> I've found it to be pretty stable
[10:13] <DaemonFC> it got rid of that stupid Akonadi crashing constantly mess
[10:14] <BlaXpirit> that thing is strange indeed. scares people away.
[10:14] <DaemonFC> "Here, it's totally unstable, by the way, we've integrated more things into it, have fun" :)
[10:14] <BlaXpirit> hehe
[10:15] <DaemonFC> 4.7 makes a big difference unless you're using AMD's proprietary video driver
[10:15] <BlaXpirit> and intel probably too.
[10:15] <DaemonFC> the rest get kwin using the new OpenGL 2 backend
[10:15] <BlaXpirit> i hope the hardware support is better in new Linux and Ubuntu. Some stuff like backlight change didn't work on my laptop; was damn difficult to make it work.
[10:15] <DaemonFC> no, even most Intel users will get that
[10:15] <DaemonFC> as long as the hardware is capable
[10:16] <DaemonFC> FGLRX is a piece of crap (AMD Proprietary)
[10:16] <DaemonFC> it's probably one of the reasons Ubuntu uses Compiz
[10:16] <DaemonFC> it goes out of its way to work around broken drivers
[10:16] <BlaXpirit> compiz. what a piece of...
[10:17] <DaemonFC> If KDE detects FGLRX, it gives it the old OpenGL 1.4 backend
[10:17] <DaemonFC> I've tried installing FGLRX and forcing OpenGL 2 with kwin
[10:17] <DaemonFC> the result isn't pretty
[10:17] <BlaXpirit> whatever. KDE is good without effects.
[10:18] <DaemonFC> FGLRX breaks lots of other things
[10:18] <DaemonFC> so that wasn't the deciding factor for me
[10:18] <DaemonFC> just the latest thing it can't do, on a long list
[10:19] <DaemonFC> I decided to just use xorg-edgers and the s3tc library and tweak it around a bit
[10:19] <DaemonFC> my RadeonHD 5670 is running fine with that
[10:19] <DaemonFC> FGLRX cases all kinds of hell
[10:19] <BlaXpirit> i really don't know much about hardware stuff.
[10:19] <DaemonFC> and Ubuntu and AMD claim to support each other
[10:20] <DaemonFC> it's as bad on Ubuntu as it has ever been anywhere else
[10:20] <BlaXpirit> by AMD u mean Radeon graphics cards?
[10:20] <DaemonFC> the only difference is that on Ubuntu, it always builds and works poorly, on other systems you may not get that far
[10:20] <DaemonFC> their proprietary drivers claim to support Ubuntu
[10:21] <DaemonFC> but like I said, it depends on what your definition of support is
[10:21] <BlaXpirit> support = works out of the box, or suggests drivers to install
[10:21] <DaemonFC> their 2d acceleration is garbage because proprietary games on Ubuntu don't use it
[10:21] <DaemonFC> they can't run Mutter at all, oh well, Ubuntu isn't using it
[10:21] <DaemonFC> :)
[10:22] <DaemonFC> kwin with OpenGL 2 isn't supported, but you'll quietly get the obsolete rendering path
[10:23] <DaemonFC> and kwin isn't a proprietary game on Ubuntu, so oh well
[10:23] <DaemonFC> :)
[10:23] <DaemonFC> AMD's unwritten policy seems to be, if it's not a proprietary game on Ubuntu, it doesn't matter
[10:24] <BlaXpirit> you're talking too much O_o
[10:24] <DaemonFC> so I quite using FGLRX some time ago
[10:24] <BlaXpirit> i kinda don't care about this?
[10:24] <DaemonFC> meh
[10:24] <DaemonFC> speaking of KDE 4.7 kind of got me going
[10:25] <DaemonFC> people with nonfree video drivers miss the most noticable improvement
[10:25] <BlaXpirit> i always avoid radeon
[10:25] <BlaXpirit> got nvidia on pc and integrated intel on laptop
[10:25] <BlaXpirit> works fine (on pc with proprietary drivers, on laptop without).
[10:26] <BlaXpirit> but yes, i had to do some stuff with kernel to make brightness change work (was it called kernel patch or what?)
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[10:27] <DaemonFC> it depends
[10:27] <DaemonFC> you can change a lot of kernel behavior by setting module options
[10:28] <BlaXpirit> u think i haven't tried that?
[10:36] <freaks> hi there, i have sound problems .. in system-settings >> multimedia >> phonon, if i click test, i can hear the sound test.. but in all apps: no sounds.  (example: vlc, dragon player)
[10:42] <kbroulik> will Digikam 2.1 be available for natty in the backports?
[10:50] <transformers> hello kubuntu fans
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[13:47] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:50] <transformers> GameOnLinux not work help please
[14:05] <transformers> kubuntu games i do not understood what sc 2 service games on kubuntu&
[14:05] <transformers> &
[14:05] <transformers> ?
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[14:28] <raj-darkmystery> unable to install ubuntu 10.04 no graphical interface to install and system running live in text mode only
[14:29] <BluesKaj> raj-darkmystery, 10.04 or 11.04 ?
[14:30] <raj-darkmystery> BluesKaj, 10.04
[14:30] <BluesKaj> raj-darkmystery, which graphics card ?
[14:30] <Ddpbf> raj-darkmystery: did you tray special boot options?
[14:33] <raj-darkmystery> it is an integrated graphic card from intel
[14:34] <BluesKaj> raj , to make sure , lspci | grep VGA
[14:45] <jony> hello all
[14:46] <jony> why I can't write to newwly created partition in Kubuntu 11.04?
[14:46] <jony> I have a second partition beside the main
[14:46] <jony> and this big partition was created during kubuntu setup
[14:47] <BluesKaj> jony, is it listed in dolphin places?
[14:47] <jony> yes
[14:47] <jony> I cannot create a diractory even :(
[14:48] <jony> I cannot work with it at all
[14:48] <BluesKaj> jony, to what file system is it formatted?
[14:48] <jony> ext4
[14:48] <jony> like the main partition
[14:48] <Lithos84> jony: You need to change its permissions.
[14:48] <jony> with sudo?
[14:49] <Lithos84> jony: Yes: sudo chmod u+wrx <partition>
[14:49] <jony> u+wrx what it does?
[14:49] <jony> I don't wnt to be vulnerable the partition
[14:50] <Lithos84> jony: Let the user to Write, Read and eXecute
[14:50] <jony> I want to be as same secure as the main partition is
[14:50] <Lithos84> jony: It change permission just for you ;-)
[14:51] <BluesKaj> jony, you should add it to fstab
[14:51] <jony> sudo or fstab?
[14:52] <jony> and why not is writeable when it was created with kubuntu setup
[14:52] <jony> ?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> jony, what did you callm the partition  when you created it ?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> call
[14:53] <jony>  /dadat
[14:54] <jony> it's empty anyway so I can play with it :)
[14:57] <jony> so where is the problem?
[15:01] <kbroulik> hm, whenever I sent my mom's PC into standby, it doesnt wake up but when turning it on, it starts briefly, makes meeeeeeep meeeeeeeeep meeeeeeeeep and then goes off again. so seems the memory doesnt work with the standby or something?
[15:06] <jony> how was that command for partition?
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[15:07] <Lithos84> jony: sudo chmod u+wrx <partition>
[15:07] <jony> ty
[15:07] <Lithos84> jony: You're welcome.
[15:09] <jony> nonononono... :( it does not work
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[15:09] <jony> still write protected
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[15:10] <jony> I dont't u nderstand: how can it be when the HDD partitions was re-created during kubuntu setup?
[15:10] <Lithos84> jony: Try this (<user would be your user name): sudo chown <user> <partition>
[15:10] <jony> I didn't mess annything
[15:12] <jony> it worked !
[15:12] <jony> thanks!
[15:12] <Lithos84> jony: Good. You're welcome!
[15:12] <jony> what does chown command?
[15:13] <Lithos84> jony: It changes the owner.
[15:15] <jony> I want to stay wint linux with all my heart :)
[15:15] <jony> buut it haves many thing to set up manually
[15:17] <Yamin> Anyone have any idea why the konsole closes after I put in my password for my user account? I have a program that uses the terminal and I'm using my user account, so it asked me to first input my password, but then the konsole just closes.
[15:20] <jony> why I have a much slower samba transfer speed than in windows?
[15:38] <jony> how can I moove the taskbar up?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> click on the cashew on the right edge of the panel and then drag it
[15:41] <BluesKaj> hmm, odd , dragging used to work
[15:50] <s1gsegv> hi, having trouble installing adobe flash player
[15:50] <s1gsegv> says channel 'natty-partner' is invalid
[15:51] <s1gsegv> i enabled that source in pkg manager and did an update
[15:53] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, it should be listed as canonical parther
[15:54] <BluesKaj> err patrner
[15:54] <BluesKaj> anyway canonical partner
[15:58] <s1gsegv> BluesKaj: yeah its not working
[15:59] <s1gsegv> get an error in apturl when trying to download from the adobe site about 'natty-partner' being invalid
[15:59] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ..and which kubuntu version are you running?
[15:59] <s1gsegv> the latest
[16:01] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, open a terminal , sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:02] <s1gsegv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/686421
[16:02] <s1gsegv> ok, installing aptitude first, i much prefer it
[16:04] <s1gsegv> package doesn't exist
[16:04] <s1gsegv> i installed flashplugin-nonfree which installed but it doesn't work in forefox
[16:07] <jony> why it wont play smooth the larger sized movies any video player in kubuntu 11.04??? :(
[16:07] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, nonfree has been replaced by flashplugin-installer
[16:07] <s1gsegv> ok well, it's not in the repo according to my system :(
[16:07] <BluesKaj> jony, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:08] <s1gsegv> xand@ubuntu:~$ sudo aptitude search flashplugin
[16:08] <s1gsegv> i   flashplugin-installer                                                                   - Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[16:08] <s1gsegv> hmm, apparently it's installed
[16:09] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, same for you , install kubuntu-restricted-extras
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[16:12] <s1gsegv> i've been running kubuntu for like 10 minutes and really love it so far
[16:12] <s1gsegv> kde has come a LONG way
[16:12] <s1gsegv> i started out with linux about 14 years ago with slackware and afterstep
[16:15] <s1gsegv> BluesKaj: thanks, that is complete
[16:15] <s1gsegv> still cannot install from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[16:16] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, checkout www.medibuntu.org as well for media apps and libs
[16:17] <s1gsegv> thanks BluesKaj, i just have a hard time believing this is so hard to get flash player installed
[16:17] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, there's no need to install from adobe , the flash installer is default in 11.04...it's in the repos
[16:17] <s1gsegv> last time i ran ubuntu desktop it was very simple
[16:17] <s1gsegv> yeah and it's installed
[16:17] <s1gsegv> i just don't know how to run it
[16:18] <s1gsegv> i ran `locate flashplugin-installer`
[16:18] <s1gsegv> have the path to a couple app-install/desktop files
[16:19] <s1gsegv> oh whoops
[16:19] <s1gsegv> i ran updatedb and now see where it is :)
[16:20] <s1gsegv> no binaries or scripts though, it seems
[16:20] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, seems to me your source.list is corrupted somehow , pls pastebin it so we can have a look
[16:20] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[16:20] <ubottu> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[16:21] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv,, it's in /etc/apt/sources.list , which lists the repositories in your package manager
[16:22] <s1gsegv> oh so it just adds the source
[16:22] <s1gsegv> thanks again
[16:27] <jony> why doesn't play smooth a high de movie (1080p) in kubuntu?
[16:27] <jony> neither player cannot play them right :((
[16:32] <jony> so NOONE is watching high def movies (1080p) in linux????
[16:34] <BluesKaj> jony, vlc plays them if you set it up to do so.
[16:34] <jony> any idea?
[16:34] <BluesKaj> dragonplayer is not very good imo
[16:35] <BluesKaj> jony, VLC
[16:35] <jony> okok, but the specific setting under vlc, pls if you know
[16:40] <BluesKaj> vlc/tools/preferences/video , but the default is to play the video in it's native resolution, so these settings should be left alone ...Hidef movies run fine on my setup ...you may need to tune up the audi tho, if you are feeding a spdif out to a an audio digital input/amplifier
[16:45] <jony> waht the heck? I have a high-end PC, and it cannot play a gd 1080p movie in linux??? :(
[16:45] <jony> I'm very disappointed :(
[16:46] <BluesKaj> jony, what happens when you try to play it ?
[16:47] <jony> i see two-three frames, than it hangs, than shows again a couple of frames with a huge lag, and so on
[16:48] <jony> and sometimes the video dissappears left behind a gray screen and the sound goes on
[16:48] <jony> towards
[16:48] <jony> same issue in dragon player too
[16:49] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | jony
[16:49] <ubottu> jony: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:49] <BluesKaj> install those repos , update and uipgrade and install libdvdcss2, jony
[16:50] <jony> BluesKaj, you had the same issue like me?
[16:51] <BluesKaj> no , I always install all the media requirements nefore trying a dvd or video file
[16:52] <jony> can I install all of packages from medibuntu at once?
[16:52] <jony> or which I sould instal from there?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> jony, just read the tutorial I posted about medibuntu ...it's quite clear about what it's for and wht it does.
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[16:55] <jony> I installed it
[16:55] <BluesKaj> jony, , make sure you have libdvdcss2 installed
[16:55] <jony> same issue
[16:55] <BluesKaj> now update and upgrade with apt or aptitude
[16:55] <jony> need a restart?
[16:55] <BluesKaj> no
[16:56] <BluesKaj> well, maybe
[16:56] <BluesKaj> libdvdcss2 ?
[16:56] <jony> I've installed it
[16:56] <jony> done updating
[16:56] <jony> same problem :(((
[16:57] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[16:57] <s1gsegv> BluesKaj: perhaps my issue is that i'm running 11.10
[16:57] <jony> ok, I will do that
[16:57] <s1gsegv> do i need to enable the natty backports?
[16:57] <jony> TY anyway for your help
[16:58] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv,  no , I thought you said you were on 11.04
[16:58] <BluesKaj> 11.04=natty ...youshouldn't have that on 11.10
[16:59] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, #ubuntu+1 is the support for 11.10
[17:01] <s1gsegv> ok i asked there, thanks
[17:01] <s1gsegv> this is bizarre how difficult this is
[17:01] <s1gsegv> wonder if it's because my system is x64
[17:03] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, you shouldn't have any natty repos in your package manager , unless you added a ppa .
[17:05] <s1gsegv> it's all natty... maybe i DO have natty
[17:06] <szal> s1gsegv: uninstall any 32bit Flash stuff you might be having installed, get the SevenMachines PPA & install flashplugin64-installer
[17:06] <s1gsegv> yep, it is natty
[17:06] <s1gsegv> szal ok
[17:08] <BluesKaj> s1gsegv, run lsb_release -a , in a terminal
[17:10] <s1gsegv> ahhh
[17:10] <s1gsegv> all set
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[17:10] <s1gsegv> thanks szal!
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[18:18] <ashes> hello
[18:19] <ashes> when i boot my laptop i get a message about my battery capacity status. what program reports that? it's not acpi. i don't mean the charge balance, i mean battery health
[18:21] <ashes> it is acpi. nevermind
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[19:27] <transformers> hi everyone
[19:30] <transformers_> how can i change language in virual screen keyboard in kubuntu?
[19:33] <Dalailamer> hi
[19:33] <Dalailamer> questionnn
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[19:35] <Dalailamer> questionnn
[19:35] <BluesKaj> !ask | Dalailamer
[19:35] <ubottu> Dalailamer: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[19:35] <Dalailamer> wELL I installed kubuntu 11.10 but some crashed and so on
[19:36] <Dalailamer> wanted to ask if downgrade to 11.04
[19:37] <OerHeks> Dalailamer, downgrade is not possible, sorry
[19:38] <Dalailamer> yes i meant
[19:38] <Dalailamer> new install
[19:40] <OerHeks> new install is possible, backup your documents and data, and start a new installation.
[19:40] <Dalailamer> yessssssssssss
[19:40] <Dalailamer> i know
[19:40] <Dalailamer> but does it make sense
[19:41] <Dalailamer> i installed about 5 times today, i do not want to crash my hdd
[19:49] <Dalailamer> i installed about 5 times today, i do not want to crash my hdd
[19:49] <OerHeks> you installed 10.10 five times ?
[19:51] <Dalailamer> no 11.10 and some others
[20:00] <JhonH> buenA
[20:02] <Dalailamer> bug 776435
[20:02] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 776435 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Window maximizes on the wrong workspace" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/776435
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[21:55] <ipeacocks> hi, guys!
[21:55] <BluesKaj> hey
[21:56] <ipeacocks> why in this room so quietly?
[21:57] <James147> ipeacocks: because there appears to be no one with problems related to kubuntu
[21:58] <ipeacocks> true )
[21:58] <ipeacocks> kubuntu and kde rocks!
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[22:38] <valorie> !grub
[22:38] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
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[23:02] <Guest30737> !Time
[23:02] <ubottu> Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[23:08] <Guest30737> .
[23:13] <Guest30737> Quassel vs. XChat...  wich is best!?
[23:14] <jmichaelx> konversation
[23:14] <DaemonFC> Konversation and XChat are both better
[23:14] <DaemonFC> but Konversation is a KDE application, and I like it better
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[23:16] <valorie> Konvi uber alles
[23:16] <valorie> IMO
[23:57] <qiou> plop