2012/09/03/#kubuntu.txt

[00:14] <artao> does anyone here know of an app, linux preferably, with with I can enter notes by hand into pdf files using my wacom tablet?
[00:14] <artao> AND have those notes viewable in a standard install of Acrobat Reader .. kinda important
[00:16] <SIR_Taco> artao: could you not use something like Libreoffice Draw, and print to a PDF?
[00:22] <artao> perhaps. looking in to that ... i never though of using LO for pdfs .. that was mentioned in another channel as well =]
[00:35] <Daskreech> Most things can print to PDF
[00:40] <rhombus> The current kubuntu iso seems to be too large to burn to CD-R.
[00:41] <Phiscribe> ok whats up with the desktop cd now saying it needs 703mb and all my blanks are 700 and the burner whines about it?
[00:41] <Phiscribe> DOH
[00:41] <Phiscribe> i didnt read what you typed rhombus before i did, seems we are in same baot
[00:41] <rhombus> Phiscribe: Then this is a real problem
[00:42] <Phiscribe> maybe if i up date my burner software, trying that
[00:42] <rhombus> Phiscribe: I highly doubt it
[00:42] <rhombus> Phiscribe: For what it is worth, this oops has happened before
[00:42] <Phiscribe> 700's are suppoedly able to go up to 703, but its edgy
[00:43] <rhombus> Phiscribe: Actually, the hard limit is 702.8
[00:43] <rhombus> Man, who knows when this is going to get fixed..
[00:43] <Phiscribe> yeah not working with the 703.29, so its a distribution error and not just user error?
[00:45] <rhombus> Phiscribe: Since this has happened before, and since in both cases the isos were absolutely unburnable, I would say this is a bug and not your fault.
[00:46] <rhombus> How well is kubuntu maintained? The home page still has a copyright date of 2010.
[00:50] <rhombus> Maybe I will have to resort to the DVD... but that will take forever to download, not to mention oodles of disk.
[00:50] <Phiscribe> one of my boxes wont boot from dvd
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[01:06] <Phiscribe> sigh...i dont know if trying to remaster is worth it, taking out wubi would make it fit
[01:07] <rhombus> Phiscribe: Oh, it has wubi in it?
[01:07] <rhombus> Phiscribe: Who needs that?
[01:07] <rhombus> Hey look, it's Bender!
[01:07] <vivid> Phiscribe: you could always use the net installer (mini.iso)
[01:08] <BenderUK> bite my shiny metal ass ;)
[01:08] <Phiscribe> good idea vivid
[01:09] <vivid> and yes its a bug, it says that under the download links in red ink
[01:11] <rhombus> BenderUK: lol
[01:12] <BenderUK> only people who haven't seen Futurama don't love Bender ;)
[01:12] <rhombus> BenderUK: (got anything to drink?)
[01:12] <BenderUK> yeah, energy drink ;)
[01:13] <rhombus> owwh...
[01:14] <rhombus> vivid: under which download links? I see no such message where I obtained the iso...
[01:14] <vivid> sec
[01:15] <vivid> youre right, its not there anymore, but it was
[01:16] <rhombus> vivid: oh... how old is this bug?
[01:16] <vivid> seems to reappear every release cycle...doesnt it?
[01:16] <vivid> look at the quantal images....758MB
[01:17] <Daskreech> Which ISO is that?
[01:17] <rhombus> Daskreech: kubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[01:18] <rhombus> vivid: A search reveals this happens a lot.
[01:18] <vivid> didnt the .1 release just happen?
[01:18] <vivid> probably want to report a bug against that if theres not one already
[01:18] <vivid> becuase it seems like it would be a critical bug
[01:18] <rhombus> vivid: where can I do that?
[01:18] <vivid> not sure, somewhere on launchpad which is extremely unintuitive
[01:19] <rhombus> vivid: they don't make it easy
[01:19] <vivid> well, its just impossible to search effectively
[01:19] <vivid> works better through google imo
[01:20] <vivid> but it does seem like it happens alot doesnt it
[01:20] <vivid> trying to fit an entire desktop on a single CD is getting harder and harder
[01:21] <rhombus> vivid: I suppose... but maybe there is a lot of unnecessary stuff on it
[01:21] <rhombus> for instance -- I have zero need for wubi, phiscribe mentioned it includes that
[01:22] <rhombus> it might mean that multiple isos are needed
[01:22] <rhombus> vivid: where can I find the mini iso?
[01:22] <vivid> uh
[01:22] <rhombus> vivid: and will it let me do an install over WLAN?
[01:22] <vivid> for which release/arch
[01:22] <vivid> i dont know
[01:23] <rhombus> vivid: x86
[01:24] <BenderUK> i wonder if trying to fit the distro on a CD should be still a priority
[01:24] <yofel_> note: you can get the old 12.04 release images from http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/releases/12.04/release/
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[01:24] <yofel> those are a few M's smaller
[01:24] <BenderUK> i mean come on, i guess if someone can afford a CD he can certainly afford a freakin USB stick
[01:24] <rhombus> BenderUK: that depends on what you mean by "fit the distro"
[01:24] <yofel> BenderUK: quantal (12.10) won't fit on a CD
[01:24] <BenderUK> i mean the whole image
[01:24] <rhombus> BenderUK: I disagree here
[01:24] <vivid> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[01:25] <rhombus> BenderUK: install isos should be provided, especially since USB boot still doesn't work on a lot of hardware and is finicky when it does work
[01:25] <BenderUK> hmm true
[01:26] <rhombus> BenderUK: and it's not like I am asking for floppies here
[01:26] <BenderUK> :)
[01:26] <BenderUK> btw rhombus, do you have any experience with kate?
[01:26] <rhombus> BenderUK: she's wicked in bed
[01:26] <rhombus> BenderUK: oh wait, you mean...
[01:27] <rhombus> BenderUK: um, no.
[01:27] <BenderUK> yep you stud, i meant the editor ;)
[01:29] <BenderUK> anyway i'm off coding, have a good night :)
[01:30] <rhombus> BenderUK: good night
[01:30] <c_smith> Daskreech, I managed to make the alternate installer work by using a frontend for dd.
[01:30] <Daskreech> c_smith: \o/
[01:30] <c_smith> Daskreech, just thought I'd let you know in case anyone else has the problem I had.
[01:31] <c_smith> anywho, now I'm running into issues because the machine has UEFI.
[01:31] <rhombus> vivid: ok, that was for the main ubuntu... is there a mini iso for kubuntu?
[01:31] <vivid> rhombus: no
[01:31] <vivid> its the same for all of them
[01:32]  * rhombus cries.
[01:32] <c_smith> something I'm gonna try a two step approach to: install, then chroot into it on the kubuntu main installer and install grub-efi.
[01:32] <vivid> you can either just base install and use apt to install kubuntu
[01:32] <rhombus> vivid: oh!
[01:32] <vivid> or you can select it from the list during install and it will download whichever you want
[01:32] <rhombus> vivid: oh, wow.
[01:32] <rhombus> vivid: nice. I will try that!
[01:32] <vivid> so you can install whatever you want with it
[01:33] <c_smith> anywho, I'll be on #kubuntu-offtopic should anyone need me.
[01:33] <rhombus> c_smith: sure, thanks.
[01:34] <c_smith> anyone know if a LVM/LUKS setup would interfere with chrooting?
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[01:48] <Daskreech> rhombus: Isn't the mini iso just a netinst?
[01:48] <Daskreech> c_smith: No just have to load up the LVM LUKS
[01:48] <Daskreech> (though that does mean the kernel you are using should have support)
[01:49] <c_smith> Daskreech, well, looks like in trying to figure that out, I unintentionally hosed the UEFI partition..... ooops.
[01:49] <Daskreech> >_>
[01:49] <Daskreech> !uefi
[01:49] <Daskreech> hmm
[01:50] <Daskreech> !efi
[01:50] <Daskreech> They keep removing stuff :(
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[01:50] <datruth> is there a tool in kde to check the health of my harddrives?
[01:53] <DarthFrog> smartctl, in package smartmontools.
[01:53] <yofel> datruth: not sure if there's any GUI app, for CLI there's smartmontools for SMART data and badblocks for physical tests
[01:56] <Daskreech> !info smartmontools
[01:56] <ubottu> smartmontools (source: smartmontools): control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.41+svn3365-1 (precise), package size 444 kB, installed size 1284 kB
[01:57] <Daskreech> !info smart-notifier
[01:57] <ubottu> smart-notifier (source: smart-notifier): graphical hard disk health status notifier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.28-3.1 (precise), package size 10 kB, installed size 119 kB
[02:04] <digitalj> Man printing is so easy to setup on Kubuntu....
[02:04] <digitalj> Easier than Windows...windows didn't even autodetect the drivers for my network printer
[02:08] <rhombus> Daskreech: "just" a netinst?
[02:09] <rhombus> Daskreech: it's a netinst that starts from a CD...
[02:09] <Daskreech> rhombus: My point was that you don't need a "kubuntu" one
[02:10] <Daskreech> digitalj: Yeah but likely to get harder thanks to Apple
[02:10] <rhombus> Daskreech: oh, yes -- that was made clear to me by vivid -- I wasn't aware that could be done at the installer level
[02:12] <digitalj> How is Apple going to effect printing on Linux?
[02:12] <DarthFrog> Affect.
[02:13] <digitalj> DarthFrog, how nice of you
[02:13] <DarthFrog> :-)
[02:14]  * DarthFrog is a grammar Nazi at times.
[02:14] <digitalj> I'
[02:14] <digitalj> Oops
[02:14] <digitalj> I'm too tired for that
[02:15] <digitalj> and focusing on my mass produced, sugary,  corn-based cereal
[02:15] <datruth> yofel: do I need the smart data and badblocks?
[02:15] <digitalj> of which I'll be going back for seconds
[02:18] <c_smith> what i need to know now is is there a way to get the UEFI part back on the laptop I hosed it on?
[02:19] <c_smith> I got the proper partition back, but have no clue what was on it.
[02:19] <yofel> datruth: depends on what you want to know, for a general health info the smart data is usually enough
[02:29] <Daskreech> digitalj: They own CUPS
[02:29] <Daskreech> c_smith: not sure
[02:30] <c_smith> Daskreech, kk
[02:34] <c_smith> Daskreech, looks like just creating the partition was enough/
[02:35] <c_smith> now to install kubuntu THEN install the LVM/LUKS setup again, then chroot.
[02:35] <Daskreech> Hooray for technology becoming stupider
[02:37] <c_smith> yep
[02:37] <c_smith> now to figure out how to install grub-efi
[02:37] <c_smith> figured I'd just forego all that and just chroot
[02:44] <Daskreech> !grub
[02:44] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
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[03:37] <netrunner_> o
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[05:39] <mr-rich> Why does kubuntu keep asking me if I want to remove my sound devices?
[05:40] <goodtime> you prob have some notifier running in the background
[05:40] <goodtime> might be able to disable it in settings
[05:47] <mr-rich> Notifier? for what? All I did was plug in my iPhone ... also happens when I start smb4k ... wierd
[05:48] <nightduke> hello
[05:52] <hateball> mr-rich: have you used say.... HDMI to connect your machine to some external device?
[05:55] <mr-rich> hateball: no HDMI connection. Just an Iphone or starting smb4k to mount my iTunes dir from a Winbloze VM ... that triggers a dialog to remove some or all of my sound devices ....
[05:59] <hateball> mr-rich: how strange
[06:00] <mr-rich> hateball: very
[06:00] <hateball> I don't know if an iPhone might act as a sound device of sorts, when it gets connected
[06:00] <hateball> anyhow, if I use HDMI it will add new sound devices, and then when I'm not using it any longer, it will ask if I want to remove the devices
[06:00] <hateball> thought it would be something similar perhaps
[07:39] <rly> How can I see why Nautilus is started at login time?
[07:39] <rly> I disabled all my Autostart scripts already.
[07:43] <hateball> rly: Nautilus as in the file manager?
[07:44] <rly> hateball: which other Nautilus do you know?
[07:44] <jdrs> fitness equipments
[07:45] <hateball> rly: Over 9000 others, not sure how it matters.
[07:45] <hateball> rly: Do you have session set to restore on login, or do you start with a blank one?
[07:45] <rly> hateball: you listed zero now.
[07:45] <hateball> Ok, suit yourself
[07:45] <rly> hateball: it matters, because it was a stupid question.
[07:46] <rly> I believe I resolved it myself already, but I think it's a bug.
[07:46] <rly> Or rather, a very unwelcome consequence of the way Nautilus works.
[08:00] <rly> Hi, I am running KDE, the as yet unreleased new car by The Not So Existing Corporation and I was wondering how I can eject the fanaticalator. Can you help me?
[08:02] <rly> Hi, I am trying to put in a nautilus in my machine, but it's breathing heavily and is in fact about to die! I thought Linux supported Nautilus.
[08:51] <nandhu> hi how to add a short cut key in metacity .. eg: i need to add ctrl+alt+o to open a library office
[08:56] <tsimpson> nandhu: you'd have better luck asking that over in #ubuntu
[09:35] <drillococco> ciao
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[11:14] <Guest83828> Notebook/usb
[11:22] <equex> what metapackage should i install to get make, gcc and the rest _
[11:22] <equex> i thought it was build-essentials but thats not it
[11:22] <szal> drop the s at the end ;)
[11:23] <Taggnostr3> hello
[11:23] <equex> ah eheh
[11:24] <Taggnostr3> "uname -r" says "3.0.0-12-generic" but the kernel headers that I'm using are 3.2.0, and there isn't any package for 3.0.0 and this is causing me problems with dkms.  Do you know how can I fix this?
[11:25] <szal> Taggnostr3: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:25] <Guest83828> 217
[11:26] <Taggnostr3> szal: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:27] <Taggnostr3> szal, I'm getting the error while installing blcr-dkms, and it says "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.0.0-12-generic cannot be found. Please install the linux-headers-3.0.0-12-generic package, or use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located"
[11:28] <Taggnostr3> I tried to look for that package but it doesn't exist, and I think the problem is that the value I see with uname -r is not updated with the current headers I'm using
[11:30] <vivid> Taggnostr3: update your kernel.....install linux-generic
[11:30] <Taggnostr3> it all started when I did an upgrade after about one month since the last one, and blcr-dkms gave an error.  When I restarted the additional nvidia drivers were disabled, and I spent a couple of hours trying to enable them and to reinstall blcr-dkms but that didn't work
[11:31] <Taggnostr3> vivid, it's already updated to 3.2.0, I tried to reinstall linux-generic too but uname -r still says 3.0.0
[11:32] <hateball> Are you actually *booting* the latest kernel tho?
[11:32] <vivid> you know you have to restart and select the kernel from grub right?
[11:32] <vivid> i mean, id think that is common sense but you never know
[11:33] <Taggnostr3> I just assumed it was picking the latest one
[11:33] <Taggnostr3> also because I don't have 3.0.0 installed
[11:33] <vivid> depends on what kind of funky shit youve done to the system...
[11:33] <Taggnostr3> with dpkg -l | grep linux-headers I see 2.6.24 and 3.2.0
[11:33] <vivid> grub will select whatever you tell it to select
[11:33] <bazhang> vivid, no cursing here please
[11:33] <Taggnostr3> fwiw I never had to select anything when starting the pc, is there a way to check what grub is picking?
[11:34] <vivid> so youve upgraded from one release to another?
[11:34] <Taggnostr3> it was already 12.04, but I haven't updated this machine in about one month, I just did the regular updates, and there were updates for the linux-headers too
[11:34] <vivid> bazhang: what..you going to kick me too now?
[11:35] <szal> Taggnostr3: did you reboot since?
[11:35] <Taggnostr3> yes, a few times already
[11:35] <bazhang> vivid, pardon? please keep the channel family friendly,  ie no cursing
[11:35] <Taggnostr3> I can try once more if you want
[11:35] <vivid> right, because IRC is a family hangout
[11:36] <vivid> Taggnostr3: be sure you select the kernel you want from grub....hold shift if you have to, to get the menu
[11:36] <Taggnostr3> so I restart and old shift, and then the grub menu should appear and I pick the 3.2.0 kernel?
[11:36] <Taggnostr3> hold*
[11:36] <szal> yes
[11:36] <vivid> basically
[11:37] <Taggnostr3> ok, let's see
[11:37] <Taggnostr3> in the meanwhile, thanks for the help!
[11:37] <vivid> i didnt know 2.6.24 was even available in precise..
[11:37] <szal> upgraded from some previous version, I assume
[11:38] <vivid> he said it was already 12.04...
[11:38] <szal> .24 must've been Jaunty or something
[11:38] <vivid> hardy
[11:39] <szal> !info linux-generic hardy
[11:39] <ubottu> linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.24.32.34 (hardy), package size 26 kB, installed size 56 kB
[11:39] <szal> indeed
[11:39] <vivid> anyway, i better get out of here before the 4am linux nazis come for me
[11:40] <szal> huh?
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:45] <Taggnostr3> so in the grub list I only have 2.6 and 3.0.0, and they all say Ubuntu 11.10, even if I have 12.04
[11:46] <Taggnostr3> earlier, during the upgrade, a popup window asked me something about a menu list, or something similar, I just picked the default selection, but maybe that was the wrong one
[11:47] <Taggnostr3> could this be the problem?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr3, have you done sudo update-grub since installing 12.04 ?
[11:49] <Taggnostr3> no, should I?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> yes
[11:50] <Taggnostr3> ok, done, I guess now I'll have to restart again, right?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> well, it's not necessary , but if you're curious ...
[11:51] <Taggnostr3> uname -r is still wrong, so I'll restart once more and see if it works
[11:51] <Taggnostr3> brb
[11:51] <ALS-IT-NET-PC> lets go....
[11:57] <Taggnostr3> BluesKaj, I restarted and in the grub list I still see ubuntu 11.10 with the 2.6 and 3.0.0 kernels
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr3, run lsb_release -a in the terminal
[11:58] <Taggnostr3> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[12:01] <Taggnostr3> BluesKaj, in /boot/grub/menu.lst I still see 11.10 too
[12:02] <hateball> Taggnostr3:  Sounds like you need to re-run grub-mkconfig
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[12:03] <Taggnostr3> hateball, I've done that too now, but the list is still the same
[12:04] <hateball> Taggnostr3: *how* did you do it? grub-mkconfig by itself will only print to stdout
[12:04] <hateball> which should let you see proper entries with the 3.2 kernel if it finds it
[12:05] <Taggnostr3> I see the 3.2 entries in the output, but there's also 3.0.0 and 2.6
[12:05] <hateball> and if you want grub to actually use that, you need to tell it to output to /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:06] <Taggnostr3> ok, let me try
[12:06] <hateball> you can take a look at your current grub.cfg for a comparison
[12:06] <Taggnostr3> hateball, apparently I don't have a grub.cfg right now
[12:07] <Taggnostr3> not in /boot/grub/ at least
[12:07] <Taggnostr3> should I just create it?
[12:07] <hateball> Ummm... are you perhaps still running grub1 and not grub2 ?
[12:07] <hateball> hmm
[12:07] <Taggnostr3> how can I check that?
[12:08] <Taggnostr3> in dpkg -l I see a 'grub 0.97-29ubuntu66' and 'grub-common 1.99-21ubuntu3.1'
[12:09] <hateball> yeah... that's not too awesome
[12:09] <szal> Taggnostr3: do you have a /boot/grub/menu.lst instead?
[12:09] <Taggnostr3> $ grub --version -> grub (GNU GRUB 0.97)
[12:09] <Taggnostr3> szal, yes
[12:09] <szal> supports my assumption that you have a system originally upgraded from Hardy
[12:09] <Taggnostr3> szal, that's where I have all the ubuntu 11.10 entries listed
[12:10] <Taggnostr3> szal, originally yes, it was hardy
[12:10] <hateball> I would suggest you remove grub1 and reinstall grub2, that should write the proper entries and such. But dont reboot before you have it properly installed :p
[12:10] <Taggnostr3> szal, I thought you were asking if I was upgrading from hardy when it broke
[12:11] <Taggnostr3> sudo apt-get remove grub && sudo apt-get install grub2?
[12:12] <hateball> Well you already have grub2 installed, so you'd want to do "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" after removing grub1
[12:12] <hateball> assuming you want grub on sda, that is.
[12:13]  * szal would suggest running os-prober beforehand
[12:13] <Taggnostr3> if I do sudo apt-get install grub2 it wants to install several packages and remove grub1
[12:13] <hateball> That sounds like a good choice, it should trigger all the scripts
[12:13] <Taggnostr3> The following NEW packages will be installed:  grub-gfxpayload-lists grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2 grub2-common
[12:14] <Taggnostr3> hateball, you mean  sudo apt-get install grub2? or should I run os-prober too?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> sudo update grub afterwards should be enough, Taggnostr3
[12:15] <BluesKaj> sudo update-grub that is
[12:15] <hateball> Taggnostr3: by installing grub2 it should run all the magics
[12:15] <Taggnostr3> ok, I'm trying
[12:15] <hateball> that is probe for OS and ask to install it to MBR and so on
[12:16] <Taggnostr3> now menu.lst looks ok
[12:17] <Taggnostr3> so I'll try to reboot, if it works I'll run upgrade-from-grub-legacy as written in menu.lst to complete the upgrade
[12:17] <Taggnostr3> brb
[12:23] <hateball> That's a long time for a reboot, hope he didnt break all the things
[12:28] <BluesKaj> hmm, doesn't look good for his reboot
[12:30] <datruth> BluesKaj: I finally found a fix for my sound issue that I was working on
[12:31] <BluesKaj> datruth, by editing your script ?
[12:31] <datruth> BluesKaj: So what I did is I kept my script and I stop'd kmix from loading on boot, I installed veromix and reassigned the hotkeys to that mixer now with my script I chasnge the audio devices and control the volume on either or\
[12:32] <datruth> So no more setting the master channel manually
[12:32] <datruth> with pavucontrol and /veromix I can listen to both audio devices at the same time
[12:33] <BluesKaj> veromix is very similar to pavucontrol , but I'm glad to hear you have it fixed to our satisfaction
[12:33] <BluesKaj> your
[12:35] <BluesKaj> datruth, I can anyway with pavucontrol , i can switch from coax spdif to hdmi without volume probs
[12:36] <BluesKaj> datruth, the coax spdif runs off the pci soundcard and the hdmi runs off the onboard audio
[12:38] <datruth> ahh i see
[12:38] <datruth> Well I needed the widget+my script so I can do windows key+s then fn+music buttons
[12:39] <datruth> veromix is way better than kmix so I've given kmmix a autostart=false flag
[12:39] <BluesKaj> right , understood
[12:40] <datruth> time to check my smartmon report, I use smartmon do I need to use badblocks to?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> kmix here shows both the pci and hdmi outputs , the pci is card0 ,and hdmi is card1 , in phonon as well the /etc/modrprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file
[12:41] <datruth> BluesKaj: true but with kmix you can't change the audio device with out manually setting the master channel
[12:42] <datruth> I want to use hotkeys to do everything
[12:42] <BluesKaj> dunno about smartmonitor
[12:42] <datruth> Instead of going throw the dialogs to get the settings I want
[12:43] <BluesKaj> datruth, I don't need to set the master vol , they're both max on kmix , and pavocontrol at 100% , I just switch target devices
[12:48] <datruth> BluesKaj: I think your missing what Im saying
[12:48] <BluesKaj> datruth, I wish the devs would come up with a more comprehensive audio suite that can be configured from one application , rather the having deal with alsamixer, phonon/settings ,pulseaudio harware settings , kmix and pavucontrol or veromix ...seasoned kubuntu users know their way around these apps and their settings , but it's very confusing for new users
[12:48] <datruth> BluesKaj: I want to control the volume using hot keys on either audio device
[12:49] <datruth> Kmix doesn't allow for this in order to control you must first set the master channel
[12:49] <datruth> I've tried every possible way, and there are no google hits for it either
[12:49] <BluesKaj> yes I understand your need to use hotkeys , datruth ..but I don't need that
[12:50] <datruth> In kmix you have to manually do everything I dont like that
[12:50] <datruth> it should beable to use the same hotkeys on either device
[12:51] <datruth> BluesKaj: I couldnd't completely remove kmix since my script uses that to set the sinks when switching between audio devicesx
[12:52] <BluesKaj> some ppl don't like kmix either , they just disable it system settings ...it can't be removed without taking the desktop with it
[13:05] <CyberWasteland> ok
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[13:07] <Taggnostr> hateball, BluesKaj, everything is fine, I just saw that everything worked and went home, thanks again for the help
[13:07] <hateball> Taggnostr: good, we were getting worried :p
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr, c ool , glad to hear it :)
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[14:06] <monkeyjuice> been trying to find how to get thunderbird to open chromium browser on email link, ?
[14:06] <Smurphy> default browser setting usually takes it. In ubuntu.
[14:09] <monkeyjuice> chromium is set as defalut
[14:09] <monkeyjuice> default
[14:10] <Smurphy> u right. It's using not my default browser here too... KDE 4.8.5 ...
[14:10] <Smurphy> *seeeK8
[14:14] <BluesKaj> trying out the chat client in thunderbird , sems to work so far
[14:15] <monkeyjuice> hmmm well were do i get thunderbird to open links ;(
[14:15] <Smurphy> https://paolobernardi.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/how-to-change-thunderbird-6-default-browser/
[14:15] <Smurphy> Try that one ...
[14:15] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice: , tools /chatststus
[14:15] <BluesKaj> status
[14:17] <BluesKaj> the only prob so far is the entry textbox font is terribly small  on this screen , but chat text itself rsizes with ctrl+
[14:19] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: https://paolobernardi.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/how-to-change-thunderbird-6-default-browser/ Set thunderbird to ask you - and save it.;
[14:22] <monkeyjuice> hmmm well maybe reboot and see no good so far
[14:22] <BluesKaj> Smurphy:  I don't need to change the browser , w're discussing the irc client in thunderbird ...a lot of ppl aren't aware of it and it seems like it's quite good
[14:23] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice:  it's abit slow at informing you about your connections , especially the chat rooms
[14:23] <monkeyjuice> BluesKaj:  trying to get thunderbird to open email link with chromium
[14:24] <BluesKaj> oh sorry , misunderstood...hang on
[14:24] <monkeyjuice> ;)
[14:24] <monkeyjuice> np
[14:26] <Smurphy> ah. Ok. Using irssi client, as I can send it to background :}
[14:26] <Smurphy> when not online myself...
[14:26] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice:  Smurphy  , posted this while you were away https://paolobernardi.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/how-to-change-thunderbird-6-default-browser/
[14:27] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Yup. U were right. sent the data to the wrong guy ;) Thx.
[14:27] <monkeyjuice> did that didnt work
[14:28] <monkeyjuice> well have to go wife needs my body  ill reboot and see later
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Smurphy:  I should have checked , the latest t-bird is version 15 , so i doubt version 6 is similar
[14:29] <Smurphy> lol :)
[14:34] <BluesKaj> monkeyjuice:  do you mean you want t-bitd to connect to your gmail acct ?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:45] <mydogsnameisrudy> no email links to web pages , need to go thru chormium
[14:47] <BluesKaj> firefox not an option , mydogsnameisrudy ?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> mydogsnameisrudy:  did you see this ?  ln -s chromium-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome
[14:53] <BluesKaj> here ,http://askubuntu.com/questions/130158/how-do-i-make-thunderbird-open-links-in-chromium
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[15:02] <Joalland> Hi
[15:02] <Joalland> I've got severals questions on IRC
[15:03] <lordievader> !ask | Joalland
[15:03] <ubottu> Joalland: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[15:03] <Joalland> How can i change the color of my nickname ?
[15:04] <Joalland> And how can I adress a message to another person ?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> Joalland:  which irc client?
[15:04] <lordievader> Joalland, The first I cannot answer, I suggest trying Google. For the second simply type someone's nick.
[15:06] <Joalland> Konversation
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Joalland:  settings configure konverstaion , colors and go from there
[15:07] <Joalland> ok thanks
[15:17] <BluesKaj> back on konversation ...familiar territory ..the t-bird irc client is ok, but a bit slow to change rooms , and the entry textbox fonts are too small and can't be increased, altho the chat text font is configurable
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[16:41] <mr-rich> Ok, I have my TV card (a very old Bt878) plugged into the CD port on the MB (P55-UDA). I launch tvtime and I get a picture, but no sound. Both Phonon & Alsamixer don't even list the CD port as a possable volume control. Kubuntu 12.04 (all updates applied). Any ideas?
[17:10] <hegemon8> hello everyone
[17:16] <xubuntu_> anybody could help me partitioning?
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[17:22] <skreech_> xubuntu_: What do you need?
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[17:26] <uglyoldbob> is there a way to disable the reset button in kubuntu without unplugging it from the motherboard?
[17:27] <Daskreech> uglyoldbob: No
[17:27] <uglyoldbob> hmm, thats weird because i managed to disable the power button with power settings
[17:28] <Daskreech> It's almost purely a hardware switch and as far as I know the settings that manage it are BIOS/UEFI without external software calls. Unless you want to write one
[17:28] <Daskreech> There is a ACPI standard for the power switch. I don't think there is one for the reset
[17:29] <Daskreech> at least I've never seen one
[17:30] <xubuntu_> I can' partition ubuntu with mounting point
[17:30] <Daskreech> xubuntu_: Alright what are you doing?
[17:30] <xubuntu_> I have a dual boot mini mac
[17:31] <xubuntu_> and using an utility I could launch the trying xubuntu from  a partition, since using cd I cant, but I don't have a mounting point
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[17:34] <xubuntu_> I've launched xubuntu from the image installed on a partition, and when I try to install it don't find the mounting point and it stop there
[17:34] <Daskreech> Which mac is this?
[17:35] <Daskreech>  did you use refit?
[17:35] <xubuntu_> yes sure
[17:35] <xubuntu_> mini mac
[17:35] <xubuntu_> with intel dual core
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[17:38] <Daskreech> and you get the refit menu?
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[17:42] <merlin1991> hey guys, I killed my grub by installing windows (again) to a fresh ssd, does someone have a guide handy for getting grub back into the bootsector?
[17:42] <xubuntu_> yes no problem with refl menu
[17:44] <merlin1991> xubuntu_: did you answer my question or someone elses from earlier?
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[17:45] <Daskreech> !brub
[17:45] <Daskreech> !grub | merlin1991
[17:45] <ubottu> merlin1991: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[17:45] <Daskreech> xubuntu_: Alright how are you partitioning?
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[17:46] <merlin1991> thanks Daskreech
[17:47] <Daskreech> xubuntu_: what's your partition layout?
[17:50] <xubuntu_> I created many partitions using gparted, but without mounting point
[17:51] <xubuntu_> it doesn't allow
[17:54] <xubuntu_> may I create a mountpoint on a partition using any utility different from ubuntu installation utility?
[17:56] <Daskreech> xubuntu_: Yes
[17:57] <xubuntu_> how?
[17:57] <Daskreech> xubuntu_: You have to create at least one point on the Ubuntu installation
[17:57] <Daskreech> the / mount point
[18:06] <xubuntu_> I didn't find the option
[18:06] <xubuntu_> how?
[18:10] <denisboyun> Hi guys, I have the some questions? I have a notebook asus x501, I already install Kubuntu 12.04 and the some keys for example FN+F2"wifi", FN+F10,F9"volume" aren't work. What is the problem?
[18:28] <rly> denisboyun: your laptop has no platform support out of the box then.
[18:29] <rly> denisboyun: file a bug/fix it yourself/write some kernel drivers.
[18:29] <rly> denisboyun: some subset of those need to be done.
[18:29] <rly> denisboyun: not everything works as great as one would want it to work.
[18:29] <rly> denisboyun: best thing is to buy hardware which you already know is working with the software you want to use.
[18:30] <rly> denisboyun: perhaps asus already has the important part (kernel support).
[18:30] <rly> denisboyun: to check that yourself, google for 'platform support' <your model number>
[18:31] <rly> denisboyun: if something comes back, thank your $GOD, otherwise accept that life isn't perfect.
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[19:16] <rhombus> muon is complaining that it can't authenticate dependencies when I try to install firefox
[19:24] <denisboyun> file a bug/fix it yourself/write some kernel drivers. ---- Ok, I'd be be happy, but I don't how to start write code for kubuntu. Take me some url or any information how to do this?
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[21:49] <marco> ciao
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[21:49] <Guest74140> ecco
[21:50] <Guest74140> yy
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[22:07] <malcalam> q
[22:07] <malcalam> que es esti
[22:43] <OrthasUtherson> help
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[22:56] <c_smith> Hi, I'm trying to use FGLRX with Ubuntu 12.04 and Kernel 3.5 (3.5 is needed for some of my hardware) is there a reliable way to not have the system hang on booting X.org with said kernel? it doesn't have when I select 3.2 from GRUB, but s home of my hardware doesn't work with that,
[23:06] <ickefes> hi guys. do you know why i can pass the Command: PASS ***** when running port 1357 but not when running port 21?
[23:07] <ickefes> i use pure-ftpd
[23:08] <ickefes> i am tearing my hair off
[23:27] <SIR_Taco> Horray... fixed my Nvidia issue (which turned out not being an Nvidia issue)
[23:32] <NicolasCage_> hey.
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