2009/01/07/#edubuntu.txt

[00:04] <nubae> so being a member of edubuntu bugsquad means one gets all bug reports from a seed in edubuntu :-)
[00:04] <nubae> straight to one's email box
[00:04] <nubae> love it
[00:05] <LaserJock> well, we have to specify the packages, but yeah
[00:05] <nubae> I suppose its the only way to keep updated
[00:06] <LaserJock> they don't change all that often
[00:06] <LaserJock> so it generally works
[00:58] <nothingman> sorry, had to leave the library
[00:58] <nothingman> now I'm home and on to stay
[00:58] <nothingman> so where's that list of tasks?
[00:59] <LaserJock> nothingman: we're still building it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Devel/RoadMap
[00:59] <LaserJock> nothingman: what kinds of things are you interested in?
[01:00] <nubae> but for one, we could do with adding recommended apps in particular areas to the edubuntu wiki
[01:00] <nubae> with a comparison to what one would normally use under windows and what the replacement app is under linux
[01:01] <LaserJock> right
[01:01] <nubae> I think we really need to target price concsious windows users looking for alternatives
[01:02] <nubae> thats why I think wubi is important on the cd too
[01:02] <nothingman> whose site is titled, "Careful with that axe, Eugene!"?
[01:02] <nubae> ?
[01:02] <LaserJock> nothingman: that's sbalneav's
[01:02] <nubae> ah :-)
[01:06] <nothingman> gotcha
[01:08] <nothingman> have any of you heard of the Syracuse, NY company making "Fiddlehead" machines?
[01:08] <nothingman> basically multiseat Linux with a python script to load VirtualBox with any OS inside
[01:10] <LaserJock> I've not heard of that
[01:13] <nothingman> now that I'm home, I got one of the laptops so I could enter the serial number on nexlink's web site
[01:13] <nothingman> "no downloads found" is the only reply I get for typing it in
[01:14] <nothingman> does anyone know who makes the H2Insyde BIOSes?  my laptops use it, and some netbooks do
[01:16] <nothingman> the Acer Aspire One, for instance
[01:27] <LaserJock> nothingman: I don't, do you have an Aspire One?
[01:34] <nothingman> no, but I work at RadioShack, and we have one there
[01:34] <nothingman> so I've been studying it like mad
[01:35] <LaserJock> cool
[01:35] <nothingman> oh, never mind
[01:36] <nothingman> the stupid logo has a circle
[01:36] <nothingman> it's also out of order
[01:36] <nothingman> I thought maybe it was h2o insyde
[01:36] <nothingman> it's "insyde h2o"
[01:37] <LaserJock> I've been reading Christopher Dawsons ZDNet Education blog
[01:37] <LaserJock> he just got one
[01:37] <LaserJock> http://education.zdnet.com/?p=2018
[01:38] <nubae> I tested a couple of them for olpc.at
[01:38] <nubae> runs ubuntu real fast and works wonderfully with sugar
[01:38] <nubae> best netbook on the market right now
[01:39] <LaserJock> nubae: have you tried the Dell Mini 9 as well?
[01:39] <nubae> nope...
[01:55] <nothingman> nice
[02:30] <nothingman> so, I installed Ubuntu LTSP from the Alternative disk
[02:30] <nothingman> onto an older Dell
[02:30] <nothingman> plenty of RAM, Intel graphics
[02:33] <nothingman> it freezes when I log in
[02:33] <nothingman> any thoughts
[02:37] <LaserJock> nothingman: on the client or on the server?
[02:50] <nothingman> on the server, actually
[02:51] <LaserJock> hmm, that doesn't sound good
[02:52] <LaserJock> you might google around a bit for the Dell model  and ask #ubuntu
[02:52] <LaserJock> i gotta run though so I'm not much help :(
[02:52] <nothingman> no prob
[02:52] <nothingman> was nice chatting!
[02:53] <nothingman> my email's joshuaalm AT liamg.moc
[02:53] <nothingman> I know the bot's working, so...
=== alkisg1 is now known as alkisg
[16:59] <LaserJock> == Edubuntu meeting in 1hr! ==
[17:00] <nubae1> :-)
[17:01] <LaserJock> I thought it was going to be in like 4 hours, don't know what I was thinking
[17:04] <sbalneav> LaserJock: Here?  Or in #ubuntu-meeting
[17:04] <LaserJock> in #ubuntu-meeting
[17:04] <LaserJock> so it gets logged there
[17:08]  * LaserJock frantically trying to finish the strategy doc
[18:02] <LaserJock> everybody ready for the meeting?
[18:03] <nubae1> yup
[18:07] <sbalneav> LaserJock: Ready, willing and able
[18:08] <LaserJock> ok everybody ---> #ubuntu-meeting
[18:11] <LaserJock> RichEd: ping
[18:11] <RichEd> LaserJock: pong
[18:12] <RichEd> and a happy new year etc.
[18:15] <Lns> is this chan like, hanging out in the hallway during class?
[18:27] <sbalneav> Smokers hallway
[18:30] <Lns> heh
[18:47] <Ahmuck> meeting now ?
[18:47] <Ahmuck> here ?
[18:47] <LaserJock> in #ubuntu-meeting
[18:47] <LaserJock> alkisg:  ^^
[18:47] <alkisg> Ah, right, thanks! :)
[19:59] <LaserJock> I'm gonna have to go mostly IRC-silent for a while
[20:00] <LaserJock> I really really gotta get this dissertation done and IRC is a wonderful time sink
[20:01] <LaserJock> I'll be in good email contact though
[20:01] <LaserJock> nubae: this is part of my "get edubuntu-devel jumpstarted" plan ;-)
[21:11] <Ahmuck> sorry, i had to step away
[21:11] <Ahmuck> from the meeting
[21:19] <LaserJock> calimer: you around?
[21:19] <calimer> yep, hi!
[21:20] <LaserJock> calimer: I'm just watching the Sandbox youtube tutorial
[21:20] <LaserJock> very nifty stuff
[21:20] <calimer> ah awesome
[21:20] <calimer> btw we have an edubuntu version just sitting and waiting
[21:20] <LaserJock> a package?
[21:20] <calimer> I really want it in there but the person packaging it is taking a while
[21:21] <calimer> this is a version that meets debian free standards
[21:21] <LaserJock> do you know if the person was able to get a package onto REVU?
[21:21] <calimer> they just have been "busy" I guess, for some time
[21:22] <calimer> I think you gave me a bunch of recommendations previously that I wrote down as far as people that might help package it
[21:22] <calimer> I need to track them down
[21:22] <calimer> I have personally used it to teach in various schools and the kids LOVE it, and this is elementary kids to college
[21:23] <LaserJock> cool yeah, let's target getting that into Universe for Jaunty
[21:23] <calimer> if you check out the sandbox interview there is some work from the kids at the summer camp
[21:23] <Ahmuck> link to video ?
[21:23] <calimer> I don't know what that means but I'm on board!
[21:24] <calimer> here is the tutorial
[21:24] <calimer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g44Ww2bg2_E
[21:24] <LaserJock> Feature Freeze is Feburary 19th so we need a package a bit before then
[21:24] <calimer> and here is the interview
[21:24] <calimer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WztnXKda4fI
[21:24] <calimer> if you have any specific e-mail addresses I can hit I will send it out today
[21:25] <calimer> as a note I started working on this for kids that were in my after school program at an elementary school
[21:25] <calimer> so for me the reward really is just getting it to the kids
[21:25] <LaserJock> calimer: basically we need to get the package up for review by the MOTU before the 19th, preferably at least a week before
[21:25] <calimer> well I have the zip just sitting there, it just needs to be packaged
[21:25] <calimer> and maybe 2.3 can get packaged in the non free version?
[21:25] <sbalneav> LaserJock: You pingied me?
[21:26] <LaserJock> sbalneav: yeah, just wanted to catch up
[21:26] <calimer> or repo i mean
[21:26] <sbalneav> I'm at work atm, you gonna be on tonight?
[21:26] <LaserJock> calimer: how non-free is it? can we distribute it freely?
[21:26] <LaserJock> sbalneav: yeah
[21:27] <calimer> 2.3 has some content that doesn't fit the debian free license
[21:27] <calimer> but yeah you can distribute it freely
[21:27] <LaserJock> ok, then I think that should be ok for Multiverse
[21:27] <calimer> I also came across an awesome site recently that has all debian free textures
[21:27] <calimer> so I want to update the debian free version with those textures if I can
[21:28] <LaserJock> I would suggest first doing the free one, then the non-free version should be pretty easy
[21:28] <calimer> openfootage.net I think for anyone else
[21:28] <calimer> is there anyone you know that you think would do it?
[21:28] <calimer> the packages from my end are all set
[21:28] <LaserJock> let me poke #ubuntu-motu a little
[21:28] <calimer> but they need to be converted into the linux packaging deal that I don't know much about
[21:29] <calimer> I should probably update the code database for the free one at some point
[21:29] <calimer> it might take some time though
[21:46] <LaserJock> calimer: do you have a download link for your dfsg-free version?
[21:46] <LaserJock> calimer: is it possible to create the free version from your regular version?
[21:47] <calimer> not a public one but yeah its on my webpage, let me grab the link
[21:47] <calimer> its kinda old codebase wise
[21:48] <calimer> but I don't know how long it would take me to update it
[21:48] <calimer> and this is a lot better than nothing
[21:48] <calimer> and anyone if they really like it they can just get the 2.3 version :D
[21:48] <calimer> http://platinumarts.net/sandboxlite2.1TEST1.zip
[21:50] <LaserJock> now this version pretty much is just missing "content" stuff, right?
[21:51] <calimer> yeah it basically has all the non debian free content removed
[21:51] <calimer> and it is an older codebase
[21:52] <LaserJock> so Sauerbraten and Cube2 source is debian free?
[21:52] <calimer> yeah zlib
[21:53] <calimer> for some reason that version that page seems like it is dated much older than it should be
[21:53] <calimer> er
[21:53] <calimer> that file I mean
[21:53] <calimer> but I'm pretty sure that's where I put the updated version
[21:54] <calimer> I had to update the license to meet all the good ol debian free stuff
[21:54] <calimer> and had some help
[21:55] <LaserJock> there's still some stuff that we might need to take care of
[21:56] <calimer> yeah that's fine I'm willing to do whatever
[21:58] <LaserJock> how do I build this thing? :-)
[21:59] <calimer> there is a makefile
[22:00] <calimer> in src
[22:01] <LaserJock> ok right, I see it
[22:04] <LaserJock> calimer: you might want to email [email protected]
[22:04] <calimer> okay
[22:04] <LaserJock> I'd love to package this up for you but I really just don't have time unfortunately
[22:04] <calimer> how long does it usually take?
[22:04] <LaserJock> that varies tremendously
[22:05] <LaserJock> from real fast to ..... forever :-)
[22:05] <LaserJock> but I'll try to put some pressure on it ;-)
[22:05] <calimer> I just want to get it out to the gremlins :)
[22:05] <LaserJock> yeah
[22:05] <calimer> I get to watch them use it first hand and see how happy they get, both boys and girls
[22:06] <calimer> so it is really rewarding to hear about other kids enjoying it too
[22:06] <calimer> going to put that message to the ubuntu list on the todo
[22:07] <calimer> I think if I can update the codebase that'd be awesome
[22:07] <calimer> even if it has textures that aren't super pretty at least it has all the features
[22:07] <calimer> and people can always add in their own easily
[22:07] <calimer> relatively easily anyway :D
[22:08] <LaserJock> well, getting something in helps
[22:08] <LaserJock> people can try it out, get excited, etc.
[22:08] <calimer> yeah and even just check out the videos
[22:08] <LaserJock> even if it's slightly outdated to start with
[22:09] <LaserJock> it's fairly easy to update things
[22:09] <calimer> yeah people were into much older versions of what was in that code
[22:09] <calimer> especially if we can make it obvious that 2.3 also exists
[22:11] <calimer> my local library is interested too and I want to try to get it in the local museum because it can be used to recreate historical landscapes
[22:11] <calimer> people could take a 3D tour through historical sites