2009/01/20/#ubuntu-ops.txt

[00:03] <stdin> there wouldn't happen to be a council member awake would there?
[00:04] <nalioth> stdin: just spit it out :p
[00:04] <stdin> nalioth: I just wanted permission to edit the IrcGuidelines wiki slightly
[00:04] <stdin> jus fixing links
[00:05] <stdin> *just
[00:05] <stdin> eg: paste.ubuntu-nl.org -> paste.ubuntu.com
[00:05] <nalioth> you don't have to ask to fix that kind of thing
[00:05] <_damus_> y wus i b&
[00:06] <nalioth> _damus_: can we help you?
[00:06] <stdin> nalioth: yeah, but "/!\ Do not edit this page without discussing any changes with the Ubuntu IRC council who maintain this page.", so I thought I would ask
[00:06] <_damus_> i got b&
[00:06] <nalioth> stdin: yeah, if you're just changing dead links for live ones, go for it
[00:06] <_damus_> i made a joke and
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> I took strong offense to.. <_damus_> HAPPY JAMES EARL RAY APRECIATION DAY EVERY ONE!!!!!!
[00:07] <_damus_> got b& wit out worning
[00:07] <_damus_> and then i sed i would stop
[00:07] <_damus_> but got b& any way
[00:07] <nalioth> _damus_: the /topic in #ubuntu provides guidelines for us all  :)
[00:08] <_damus_> well im a bit a noob to irc
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> I said stop as I was busy but upon review of what you said I placed the ban
[00:08] <nickrud_> ++1 Jack_Sparrow 
[00:08] <_damus_> so i didnt know
[00:08] <nalioth> _damus_: well, i suspect you'll have 'til tomorrow to read up on it
[00:08] <nalioth> ubottu: tell _damus_ about guidelines
[00:08] <ubottu> _damus_, please see my private message
[00:08] <nalioth> ubottu: tell _damus_ about coc
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Anyone can lift it tomorrow.. I will be away
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[00:17] <bazhang> _damus_, please dont idle here.
[00:34] <bazhang> !idle | _damus_ 
[00:34] <ubottu> _damus_: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[02:06] <ubottu> In ubottu, dmsuperman said: wifi is Wireless documentation may be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs. Building your drivers from http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download may work
[02:11] <Pici> Bah.  That was dumb.
[02:12] <Pici> I had been working on a supybot plugin to interface with the google calendar, kept using the ircc meeting as a test case, and somehow missed the meeting myself.
[02:20] <jrib> heh
[02:23]  * nickrud laughs
[02:23] <nickrud> not much of a meeting anyway, Pici 
[02:24]  * Flannel wonders if theres a mailing list he's not on.
[02:25] <nickrud> Flannel, use the calendar .... 
[02:27] <Flannel> Right, but don't the topics on the agenda get discussed?
[02:29] <nickrud> .....
[02:30] <Flannel> Prior to the meeting
[02:30] <Flannel> I suppose not.
[02:35] <Flannel> ubottu tell JamesMowery|away about away
[03:35] <bluesmoke> bug 1
[03:35] <ubottu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout)
[03:35] <bluesmoke> alright, that's better
[03:38] <mindrape> jimmy_hoffa is spamming in #ubuntu... anybody awake?
[05:59]  * talsemgeest is away: Away I go...
[05:59] <Flannel> talsemgeest: Can we help you?
[06:00] <Flannel> Or rather, talsemgeest, How can we help you?
[06:23]  * talsemgeest is back (gone 00:23:57)
[06:23] <bluesmoke> !away | talsemgeest
[06:23] <ubottu> talsemgeest: You should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»
[06:23] <talsemgeest> Sorry bluesmoke, disbling now
[06:24] <genii> topyli: Apologies if I stirred the pot somewhat in -offtopic
[06:24]  * nickrud goes off to review -ot
[06:24] <topyli> not too poisonous yet
[06:25] <topyli> i wonder what to do with mikem though
[06:25] <genii> He just seems irate
[06:26] <topyli> he insists he's been singled out. in reality he does as much as he can to attract attention
[06:39] <kole> I think 4chan and efnet have warped my mind.... I broke the family friendly guidelines in offtopic... Won't happen again... can I please get back in? (does butterfly eyelashes)
[06:40] <kole> Was actually quoting one of my college profs.... He wasn't the cleanest of personalities
[06:41] <topyli> personally i would kick you out of my *pub* for such language, and i don't go to high society pubs
[06:42] <topyli> i won't lift the ban for a couple of days
[06:42] <kole> language.... blowjob?
[06:43] <topyli> i'm not repeating details here
[06:44] <kole> im... confused
[06:44] <topyli> kole: come back in a couple of days and we'll discuss
[06:45] <bazhang> kole, please dont idle here
[08:42] <Myrtti> good morning
[08:42] <Flannel> Howdy Myrtti 
[08:44] <Myrtti> The role of the Lil Missus is growing on me worrisomely fast... fortunately I love it
[08:45] <Myrtti> http://identi.ca/notice/1891224
[08:52] <topyli> what worries me more is that's exactly what i did this morning
[08:53] <Myrtti> do tell
[08:54] <topyli> made breakfast, packed lunch, sent lady to work, started multitasking between work and home chores
[08:55] <topyli> lil missus topyli
[08:56] <jussi01> ROFL
[09:02] <Myrtti> topyli: so you did basically the same thing I did :-D
[09:02] <topyli> yep :)
[09:02] <Myrtti> oh - here's a public service announcement
[09:03] <Myrtti> People of the Nordic countries, including Finland!
[09:03] <Myrtti> English chocolate is rubbish in comparison to Fazer and Marabou.
[09:03] <Myrtti> thank you.
[09:03] <Myrtti> End of annoucement.
[09:03] <bazhang> heh
[09:04]  * Myrtti glares at Gary 
=== Gary is now known as Guest84258
[09:04] <Guest84258> eek
[09:04] <topyli> heh
[09:05] <Myrtti> IDENTIFY YOURSELF!
[09:05] <topyli> why didn't i pick a cool nick like that when i started ircing
[09:06] <Flannel> topyli: Guest84258?
=== Guest84258 is now known as Gary
[09:06] <topyli> Flannel: yeah
[09:07] <Gary> damn irssi borked
[09:11] <Myrtti> ok
[09:11] <Myrtti> so the sms from UK to Finland with a Finnish contract is 0.163 Eur each
[09:12] <Nafallo> Myrtti: if you can find an Ikea, they'll have Marabou
[09:13] <Myrtti> Nafallo: yes dear, I know
[09:13] <topyli> and tasty meatballs
[09:13] <Nafallo> :-)
[09:13] <topyli> and ärtsoppa
[09:13] <Myrtti> oh!
[09:13] <Myrtti> I could make that myself too
[09:13] <Myrtti> Duncan has a slowcooker
[09:13] <topyli> takes time
[09:14] <Myrtti> true, but that's what nights and days are for
[09:14] <Myrtti> ooh
[09:15] <Myrtti> I love BBC
[09:16] <Myrtti> but really. Just for comparison, I bought a small bar of Cadburys Dairy Milk yesterday
[09:17] <Myrtti> it was almost as bad as the chocolate in the Christmas calendars
[09:18] <Myrtti> I guess I'm a spoilt child
[09:18] <Nafallo> :-)
[09:18] <Nafallo> Myrtti: try Wispa :-)
[09:18] <topyli> good chocolate never spoiled a child!
[09:18] <Nafallo> hehe. I'm going to Sweden this weekend.
[09:18] <Myrtti> I'm not actually that big fan of chocolate
[09:19] <Nafallo> pretty sure I'll spend about £50 on chocolate ;-)
[09:21] <topyli> i need a cabinet for my printer, disk and router. they're ugly on the table in the hallway. means i'll get to go to ikea with the lady
[09:22] <Myrtti> this place needs about everything
[09:22] <topyli> i'm thinking we should leave in the morning, have the 2 euro breakfast, go shopping, eat meatballs for lunch, have a couple of beers, get the cabinet and go home
[09:22] <topyli> ikea theme day
[09:23] <Myrtti> sounds nice
[09:23]  * Flannel doesn't really understand the charm of Ikea.
[09:23] <topyli> i like the food :)
[09:23] <Myrtti> I feel like I'm living in Ikea currently, well, the atmosphere of it
[09:24] <Myrtti> shopping frenzy...
[09:24] <Myrtti> things are cheap, there's more options from where to choose
[09:25] <Myrtti> I saw a cake yesterday that was in the shape of a gaming console controller with Super Mario pictures of it
[09:25] <Flannel> WEeeee wikis down
[09:25] <Myrtti> never see anything like that in Finnish stores
[09:25] <Nafallo> Flannel: huh?
[09:25] <topyli> :)
[09:25] <Flannel> Nafallo: wiki.ubuntu.com?
[09:25] <Nafallo> Flannel: nope. up.
[09:25] <Flannel> h.u.c/c is up though
[09:25] <Flannel> Psh.  Now it's up.
[09:25] <Flannel> a minute ago I got a 503
[09:26] <topyli> ikea packaging is awesome. you see a 2m x 5m bookshelf and buy it. you go fetch the item and it's packed in a matchbox
[09:26] <Flannel> Its... just... flat packing....
[09:26] <Flannel> Again, /me doesn't understand the charm of Ikea.  Maybe it's just me.
[09:26] <topyli> i swear there's a little bit of magic involved
[09:26] <Myrtti> it's the downstairs of Ikea that makes me go crazy
[09:27] <Myrtti> all the little knickknacks for cheap
[09:28] <Myrtti> ok, now the BBC show is starting to piss me off
[09:29] <topyli> perhaps i should see if ikea actually has my cabinet before i go there
[09:31] <topyli> no "server cabinet" department there :(
[09:41] <jussi01> topyli: Myrtti: I can keep tuhina! :D
[09:42] <Myrtti> jussi01: wheeeeee!
[09:42] <topyli> \o/
[09:42] <jussi01> :)
[09:44] <topyli> gah. i need something like this but that's too good and fancy: http://www.ikea.com/fi/fi/catalog/products/10146691
[09:44] <Tm_T> jussi01: hooray (:)
[09:45] <topyli> i would also need to break it a little, take off the back to keep airflow. that looks like it would collapse if i did that
[10:04] <Flannel> topyli: You'd have to cut holes in the back
[10:05] <topyli> yeah better than removing in whole :)
[10:05] <topyli> i don't want to pay for locks and the slide door and wheels and all that though
[10:06] <Flannel> What do you need it for?
[10:06] <Flannel> What are the parts you do want ;)
[10:07] <topyli> let me find a picture of the current situation :)
[10:07] <topyli> http://flickr.com/photos/topyli/2492075892/
[10:08] <topyli> there's now a hard disk too
[10:08] <topyli> one shelf for the printer, one shelf for the router and disk, and clean top to throw stuff on
[10:08] <topyli> closed cabinet
[10:09] <topyli> it's next to our front door, so we would like to throw keys and phones and wallets on top of the cabinet of course
[10:09] <Flannel> I say just make one yourself!
[10:09] <topyli> true, can't be too difficult even for me
[10:10] <Flannel> Especially if you just do it rather spartanly.  Few strategically sized pieces of wood (six or seven) a few wood screws, etc.
[10:10] <Myrtti> whee! payday!
[10:11] <Flannel> Unless you want fancy.  In which case, ditch the wood screws, go with proper mounting of crossbeams, find a router, and varnish
[10:11] <topyli> doesn't need to be fancy at all, but it can't be ugly either
[10:11] <Flannel> well, and use proper wood, instead of particle board
[10:15] <topyli> i could even just make the shelves, the sides could be cloth
[10:17] <Myrtti> topyli: sounds like http://www.ikea.com/fi/fi/catalog/products/50114754
[10:18] <topyli> Myrtti: close
[10:18] <topyli> one shelf too few. although i could hang the router and the disk under the top one
[10:18] <Flannel> Is it just me... or does that last one look crooked?
[10:19] <Myrtti> I'd personally get http://www.ikea.com/fi/fi/catalog/products/00086683 in white
[10:19] <Myrtti> because keeping the spare paper etc behind lock and key is a good idea
[10:19] <topyli> Flannel: it does :)
[10:19] <Myrtti> it is
[10:21] <Myrtti> and having wheels underneath is also a good idea
[10:21] <topyli> the lock wouldn't be useful for me, but that doesn't look very bad
[10:22] <Myrtti> it definitely needs a door though
[10:23] <Myrtti> It looks less cluttered if you can hide papers and stuff behind them
[10:24] <topyli> yes, although a hanging cloth does the trick too
[10:28] <topyli> almost: http://www.ikea.com/fi/fi/catalog/products/30089213
[10:31] <topyli> meh. as if i had anything to say about buying furniture anyway :)
[10:31] <Myrtti> hehe
[10:31] <Myrtti> Missus decides, and that's good
[10:36] <topyli> it's perfect, since she's not so eager to compain afterwards
[12:30]  * Tm_T huggggles topyli && Myrtti 
[12:30] <topyli> <3
[12:31] <Myrtti> I haz a new phone number while in UK
[12:31] <Tm_T> when was next CC-meeting?
[13:18] <Gary> Myrtti: are you gonna come visit?
[13:23] <Pici> jrib: heh. ask a silly question, get a silly answer (re: pressing down 10 times)
[13:23] <Myrtti> I don't know
[13:25] <jrib> I got "It's hard to delete line 10" in pm now...
[13:32] <jrib> I'm actually happy he's on gentoo, I was really wondering whe he compiled nautilus
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[16:17]  * genii brews a new urn of fair-trade coffee
[16:17] <LjL> [17:17:38] [478] #ubuntu letter_z*!*@* Channel ban list is full
[16:18] <Myrtti> ah.
[16:18] <genii> Weird
[16:18] <Myrtti> dare I say the 1ops?
[16:18] <Tm_T> sure
[16:19] <Myrtti> !ops-#ubuntu | YO PEEPS! clear out your outdated bans from #ubuntu!
[16:19] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops-#ubuntu
[16:19] <Myrtti> !ops | YO PEEPS! clear out your outdated bans from #ubuntu!
[16:19] <ubottu> YO PEEPS! clear out your outdated bans from #ubuntu!: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu,  imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso,  PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!
[16:19] <ubottu> Myrtti called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (YO PEEPS! clear out your outdated bans from #ubuntu!)
[16:20] <Pici> YO
[16:20] <Myrtti> I guess having a kebab today would be right and proper
[16:20] <Myrtti> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/4295701/The-man-who-invented-the-doner-kebab-has-died.html
[16:20] <nickrud> yes'm
[16:22] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I have no bans there IIRC
[16:22] <Myrtti> Tm_T: prolly not
[16:22] <nixternal> hey, if someone has time, remove me from the Ubuntu ops list as I don't sit in that channel any more and really don't have the time to dedicate to it
[16:36] <bazhang> Myrtti, done. All *4* of them.
[16:38] <bazhang> a great number of the bans seem to be freenode bans; what's that indicate? Floodbots?
[16:38] <LjL> no
[16:38] <bazhang> LjL, !!
[16:38] <LjL> it just means that, since the bans were set, servers have split badly
[16:38] <LjL> when they relinked, the bans were backported onto the split server, but the information about the banning user was lost in the process
[16:39] <LjL> connect to another server, and you'll find that the bans that show up like that change
[16:39] <bazhang> LjL, so some of them might be myself or others?
[16:39] <LjL> yes they might
[16:40] <LjL> two ways to know. 1) check the bantracker 2) connect to other servers and hope you find one where the ban appears with its correct owner
[16:40] <bazhang> so should we clear out those as well? they seem to be the greater majority in the list
[16:40] <LjL> both are a pain
[16:40] <LjL> they definitely aren't the majority on the server i'm on
[16:40] <LjL> there's 20 of them here
[16:40] <LjL> i'm on calvino.freenode.net
[16:42] <bazhang> on sagan there are near to a hundred 
[16:45] <LjL> bazhang: sagan probably rebooted relatively recently
[16:46] <bazhang> LjL, so would you recommend I try to match the btracker with what I see in xchat banlist window and do it that way, or is there some way that knowledgeable folk do it
[16:46] <LjL> bazhang: no, i'd recommend you open another connection to, say, calvino
[16:46] <LjL> (or there might be an even better server... but anyway the ones on calvino look like ones that should stay set, to me)
[16:47] <bazhang> LjL, that sounds more difficult to me than the method I mentioned :)
[16:48] <LjL> bazhang: why? the BT method involves matching each ban against the BT, while switching windows all the time
[16:48] <LjL> bazhang: if you just connect to another server, you can open up the banlist in there, type your name in the search box, and remove those
[16:48] <bazhang> LjL, never actually used irc until I got onto #ubuntu irc
[16:48] <bazhang> <<<---idiot
[16:49] <LjL> bazhang: of course if you actually want to *check* what the bans are about in the BT before removing them, then just use the BT
[16:49] <LjL> i don't, i just remove old ones that aren't redirects to special channels and that don't blatantly look like static IPs ;)
[16:49] <bazhang> LjL, well not had any recently, and if they are a continued problem then can just deal with them again.
[16:50] <bazhang> eg kelvin911
[16:50] <LjL> bazhang: then tell your client to open another server tab, or whatever it calls it, type /server calvino.freenode.net, then identify as yourself (/ns identify bazhang password, including the bazhang since you're not connecting from your nickname), and get on removing
[16:51] <bazhang> LjL, okay thanks
[16:59] <bazhang> LjL, wow; many on calvino
[16:59] <bazhang> LjL, I cant seem to access reynolds though
[16:59] <bazhang> says it is a misspelling
[16:59] <LjL> bazhang: reynolds is not a leaf node, it's an "internal" server
[17:00] <bazhang> LjL, okay; any others I might try?
[17:00] <LjL> bazhang: everything in /links if you want, but there's probably not much need
[17:00] <bazhang> LjL, much appreciated :)
[17:01] <bazhang> Myrtti, correction: all *19* of them :)
[17:01] <Myrtti> hehe
[17:02] <Myrtti> I haven't got any myself
[17:03] <bazhang> I saw a couple on calvino for you
[17:03] <Myrtti> yeah, but I checked the bantracker and they're permbans
[17:03] <bazhang> okay
[17:29] <Seeker`> nalioth: you about?
[17:30] <nalioth> Seeker`: sometimes :)
[17:31] <jpds> nalioth: Please kick Mootbot to life.
[17:31] <nalioth> hmm
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[18:19] <Myrtti> bah
[18:19] <mneptok> bleernt
[18:46] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, AtomicSpark said: !opera is Opera is an advanced and free (as in beer) web browser. Install it via Applications > Add/Remove..., after you enable the partner repository under System > Administration > Software Sources, Third-Party Software tab. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[18:49] <ubottu> In ubottu, mossmon said: ubottu, what is ubuntu
[18:56] <Seeker`> lo
[18:57] <Pici> Hi
[18:57] <Pici> !opera
[18:57] <ubottu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[18:57] <Tm_T> hi bluesmoke how can we help you today?
[18:57] <bluesmoke> ha
[18:57] <Tm_T> oh, its you again
[18:57] <Ursinha> lol
[18:57] <bluesmoke> :P
=== bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth
[18:59]  * jussi01 goes to set a ban on bluesmoke :P
[19:00] <jussi01> Tm_T: I can op myself :D
[19:00] <Tm_T> jussi01: it wasn't me
[19:00]  * Pici either
[19:00] <Tm_T> jussi01: it wasn't me!
[19:00]  * Tm_T hides
[19:00] <jussi01> [20:59:57] <ChanServ:ChanServ> You have been opped on #ubuntu-ops by Tm_T
[19:01] <bazhang> hehe
[19:01] <Tm_T> jussi01: just kidding, sowwy son
[19:01]  * jussi01 wins...
[19:01] <Tm_T> Pici: thank you sir
[20:07] <jussi01> ikonia: ping
[20:19] <elkbuntu> someone can clear out my bans for me. bancleariing at confs is dangerous
[20:20] <tomaw> all of them?
[20:23] <mneptok> even MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?!
[23:11] <Flannel> !test
[23:11] <ubottu> sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.
[23:12] <Flannel> Crimeny.
[23:13] <Flannel> rmrf city in -ot
[23:22] <Nafallo> there we go :-)
[23:22] <Nafallo> now we just need jpds back online ;-)
[23:45]  * mneptok tootles off for home
[23:58] <Flannel> Mmmm, Emergency Mode