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[00:12] <Pricey> Bah, forgot setting that fixes hilight -line if you're using format_identify.pl. Anyone remember before I find it googling logs of this channel? [00:17] <Flannel> Pricey: Remember any parts of it? I can just grep the logs of this channel [00:18] <Pricey> Flannel: /set [00:18] <Flannel> Pricey: And did you say it or did someone else? [00:18] <Pricey> i 'think' stdin [00:19] <Flannel> I... don't see it, but : http://paste.ubuntu.com/109182/ [00:19] <jussi01> stdin: is aroundish I think... [00:20] <stdin> yeah, but I don't use irssi (much) [00:21] <Pricey> aha, 2008/03/03/#ubuntu-ops.txt:[16:31] <no0tic> Pici, PriceChild /set hilight_nick_matches off did the job [00:21] <Pricey> then adding a manual hilight for it [00:21] <Pricey> I've been sat there, checking that setting is on 'on' and meh [00:21] <Pricey> Thanks Flannel. [00:32] <Flannel> Um... that's odd. [00:33] <Flannel> The vim on the 8.04.2 CDs is newer than the one in the repos. [01:21] <stdin> vim 1:7.1-138+1ubuntu3.1 is in hardy-proposed [01:22] <Flannel> yeah, its also in 8.04.2 alternate and server ISOs [01:22] <Flannel> but not desktop [01:22] <Flannel> (and yes, that's odd) [01:23] <Flannel> Boooo password stealing idiots [01:23] <stdin> hmm, this is odd [02:10] <Cpudan80> Warning [02:10] <Cpudan80> Balzac is in #ubuntu [02:10] <Cpudan80> He needs a permanent kline in my humble opinion [02:10] <Cpudan80> He does nothing except cause trouble in ##windows -- wanted to give you a heads up [02:12] <Seeker`> thanks [02:23] <Seeker`> Cpudan80: anything we can help you with? [02:23] <Cpudan80> no [02:24] <Cpudan80> just wanted to give you a warning [02:24] <Cpudan80> of course he seems uncharacteristically well behaved [02:24] <Seeker`> heh [02:30] <ubottu> unop called the ops in #ubuntu () [02:30] <ubottu> baseballer790[Np called the ops in #ubuntu () [02:31] <nickrud> well that was very suprising [02:31] <Cpudan80> Mez: sorry [02:31] <Cpudan80> I didn't know the word itself would highlight... [02:31] <Cpudan80> I only highlight on the command [02:32] <Mez> nah, he got klined :D [02:32] <Mez> or I'd have kb'd [02:32] <nickrud> Cpudan80, don't sweat it. Amazing how fast that happened [02:32] <vorian> :o [02:33] <nickrud> :) [02:53] <ScottK> Good $TIMEOFDAY. [02:54] <ScottK> DGMurdockIII is link spamming at least #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-devel a bit. I've asked him to stop. [02:54] <ScottK> I'm not saying he should be kicked right now, but I'd appreciate it if someone would keep an eye on him. [02:59] <ScottK> Looks like he left. [02:59] <ScottK> Good night. === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [05:17] * stdin dislikes the term "g rated" [05:20] <nickrud> really? Seems most people understand it [05:21] <stdin> we don't all know what the motion picture association of america rates as "g" [05:23] <nickrud> a point. I guess 'disney' has been the operative word there [05:23] <stdin> I could say to people "keep it u rated", but I don't ;) [05:23] <stdin> (U == Universal, suitable for all audiences) [05:23] <nickrud> nah, that's unrated, it has 'everything' :) [05:24] <stdin> universal refers to the audience, as do all the other ratings we have here [05:24] <nickrud> think disney cartoon movies [05:25] <stdin> so no swearing, but shooting of deer is ok? :p [05:26] <nickrud> yep. blood sport is good, ask anyone :) [05:53] <Flannel> Uh... what? [05:53] <Flannel> "I have 300GiB of data to sort through because I'm moving to the US and only want to take up to about 40GiB with me" [05:53] <Flannel> Does that make sense to anyone? [05:58] <nickrud> sorta. Maybe he's worried about legality :) [07:23] <seektherapy> anyone here? [07:23] <nickrud> seektherapy, what can we do for you? [07:25] <seektherapy> ok.. I went into the Ubuntu support channel and asked for help with my soundcard, no one can help me there.. Been dealing with this for over a month now .. [07:25] <nickrud> sound is hard to find help with sometimes. However, this channel is for resolving issues relating to how #ubuntu is moderated. It's not a help channel [07:26] <Flannel> seektherapy: You didn't say a word in #ubuntu [07:26] <seektherapy> " [07:26] <seektherapy> yessssssssssssss, i did [07:26] <seektherapy> opps.. i am in kubuntu [07:27] <nickrud> try asking in #ubuntu, more people are in there normally [07:27] <seektherapy> Flannel: i am so tired of this.. why cant Ubuntu be more women friendly [07:27] <Flannel> seektherapy: Um, what? [07:28] <seektherapy> i bet i wont get help...but i guess i will try [07:28] <Flannel> seektherapy: I don't think gender has anything to do with it. [07:31] <Flannel> seektherapy: If you have no further business related to this channel, please don't idle here. Thanks. [07:32] <seektherapy> fine Flannel... no girls aloud.. understood [07:32] <seektherapy> bye [07:36] <Flannel> Now seektherapy is in -bugs [07:39] <stdin> I don't get how the problem is apparently she's a she, and that changes things somehow.... [07:40] <stdin> how did that happen? anyone? [07:40] * stdin is clueless [07:40] <nickrud> could be blowback from other experiences. [07:40] <stdin> [07:36]<seektherapy> Chipzz: i am actually very new at the OS .. One reason why woman do not find it user friendly [07:41] <stdin> that's in response to "there are other ways of getting support. the forums, and filing a launchpad support ticket for example" [07:41] * Flannel isn't even going to touch this. [07:41] <Flannel> stdin: The only thing I can think of is that the "eyes on the back of the head" thing gets in the way. [07:42] <stdin> it's like, I understand the words, but that's it [07:42] <stdin> put the words together and my brain melts :p [07:43] <Flannel> stdin: It's possible that seektherapy isn't a girl, but is trying to play the "omg I'm a girl, ^_^" card in order to get attention/sympathy/whatever [07:43] <Flannel> Or she is a girl, and .... uh... I don't know. [07:44] * nickrud is truly not going to touch this one, except to note that there's an #ubuntu-women for a reason [07:45] <stdin> either way, someone who has super cow powers should watch him/her/it/them/us/everyone in #ubuntu-devel [07:45] <stdin> just in case [07:45] <nickrud> I only have veal powers, sorry [07:46] <Flannel> stdin: in -devel now too? [07:46] <stdin> for 25 mins now [07:58] <Flannel> Anyone have -ot whos handy? [08:05] <stdin> it's official, #freenode has gone insane [08:05] <Flannel> yay? [08:05] <Flannel> Are parasites eating at its brain? [08:06] <stdin> trolling jesus and tor flooders [08:06] <stdin> how's that for a sentence! :p [08:13] * Flannel scolds himself for adding purely useless factoids. [09:19] <Flannel> Anyone awake? [09:19] * Flannel crosses fingers. [09:26] <Flannel> Hi Scubidus [09:26] <Scubidus> So whats the point in a perm ban? [09:27] <Flannel> Scubidus: No one said anything about a perm ban [09:27] <Scubidus> I am banned from #ubuntu [09:27] <Scubidus> your the one who did it [09:27] <Scubidus> am I wrong? [09:27] <Flannel> Indeed, you're banned. [09:27] <Scubidus> For? [09:28] <Flannel> Do I really need to quote you? [09:28] <Scubidus> Do you really have no sense of humor? [09:28] <Flannel> Scubidus: You were warned about your language, ad you responded with "fuck im sorry I will", so you were removed as a warning. [09:29] <Scubidus> No [09:29] <Flannel> Then you returned, and said nothing else until you said "Flannel, You Suck Donkey Balls [09:29] <Scubidus> Do you really have no sense of humor [09:29] <Flannel> I'm not really sure what's humorous about either of those. [09:29] <Gary> Scubidus: #ubuntu is a support channel, not a chat channel [09:29] <Scubidus> .... [09:29] <Flannel> While I certainly am not personally offended by either of them, they're definately not appropriate behavior. [09:29] <Scubidus> are u 12 or something, or was this like the first time you got OPs? [09:30] <Scubidus> kickin people left and right is an abuse of power [09:30] <Flannel> Scubidus: Going back to your original question, no, it's not a permanent ban. [09:30] <Flannel> Scubidus: We ask everyone follow the channel guidelines [09:30] <Flannel> You weren't. [09:30] <Scubidus> When Is my ban up? [09:31] <Gary> Scubidus: all ubuntu channels follow their code of conduct, which relates to language used, as well as other things, the general idea is to keep those channels family friendly, and *nice* for all users [09:31] <Scubidus> Flannel? [09:31] <Flannel> Scubidus: That depends entirely on you. [09:32] <Scubidus> Christ kid you want an apology or somethin [09:32] <Flannel> Scubidus: No, I want you to understand and agree to follow the rules. [09:33] <Flannel> In case you missed them, they're the following two documents, mixed with some common sense: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct [09:33] <tritium> Scubidus: you're not showing any remorse for violating the channel rules. Why should your ban be lifted until you do? [09:33] <Flannel> Scubidus: If you're hazy about the common sense part, we can suppliment those with all of the following (you can enquire with /msg ubottu factoid) [09:34] <Flannel> !etiquette [09:34] <ubottu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubottu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !Caps, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense... [09:34] <Flannel> But, most of those are purely common sense. [09:36] <Gary> as Scubidus has said in pm to me, it seems he did not realise the importance of keeping #ubuntu solely support related, he now knows this [09:36] <tritium> All I see above is bad attitude. [09:37] <Flannel> Scubidus: With that said, and seeing your current behavior, I suggest you spend a day mulling over the IRC guidelines and especially the code of conduct. I don't really see any benefit of drawing this out further, but those sorts of things generally best set overnight. [09:37] <Scubidus> Flannel [09:37] <Scubidus> Go fuck yourself and ur gay ass IRC [09:37] <Scubidus> your sorry [09:38] <Flannel> Well then, maybe a single day isn't appropriate. [09:38] <tritium> (And poor spelling and grammar) [09:38] <Flannel> Hopefully he'll take at least a dozen hours or so to come back, and we'll see how he behaves then. [09:40] <Gary> that was odd, in pm he was totally different [09:40] <Flannel> Not that it's likely to be an issue any time soon, but anyone's free to remove that ban. [09:41] <Flannel> Gary: Yeah, I imagine it was just him getting emotional. He likely was originally joking (although, I don't see how its amusing), and then hurt that we're reprimanding him for something he thought was playful. [09:41] <tritium> I certainly won't. He displayed all attitude, and was incredibly rude. [09:42] <Gary> tritium: in pm he was the total opposite [09:43] <Flannel> Gary: Certainly odd indeed. [09:45] <Flannel> With that, however, I'm running off to sleep. [09:48] <tritium> Good night, Flannel. [09:48] <tritium> I'm off to bed as well. [09:58] <Gary> thats a lovely ircname AE [10:00] <AE> Thanks [10:01] <AE> Its been my handle for a couple years now [10:01] <AE> I have a little ASCII image of an AE in old english made of the connected AE's [10:02] <Gary> I meant your ircname, not nick [10:02] <AE> oh lol [10:02] <AE> I know dont you love it? [10:03] <Gary> not really [10:03] <AE> lol [10:03] <AE> I just came in too add someone to a list [10:03] <AE> but thanks for the semi compliment [10:03] <AE> later Gary [10:14] <cwillu> what the policy on recommending the removal of standard ubuntu services? [10:15] <cwillu> i.e., fixing audio by removing pulseaudio, fixing wireless by installing wicd? [10:27] <stdin> usually by creating a blueprint for review [10:27] <stdin> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu [10:32] <cwillu> sorry, by which I meant: people who regularly suggest people remove such packages to other people in #ubuntu [10:33] <cwillu> just spent a while unbreaking somebodies system after somebody had them uninstall pulseaudio to fix their lack of mixing :( [10:33] <cwillu> not trying to pick a fight, I just want to know what the policy is regarding that, so I know if I should bother or not :p [10:44] <cwillu> or should I be asking this in #ubuntu-irc :p [10:48] <shepherd> hi i got banned for talking about religion with warning, but i did not take the warnign seriously. i'm sorry, will not happen agian please unnnnnban me from ubuntu off topic [11:06] <jussi01> shepherd: where were you banned? [11:07] <shepherd> a#ubuntu-offtopic [11:08] <jussi01> !coc | shepherd [11:08] <ubottu> shepherd: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [11:08] <jpds> Hmm: 11:08:01 < ~shepherd> why isn't sudo apt-get pron wokring? [11:08] <shepherd> heh :) [11:08] <shepherd> agreed [11:09] <shepherd> sry i'll sign off now [11:09] <shepherd> but i really was banned becuase i dont believe in god from ubuntu off topic [11:13] <shepherd> !coc | shepherd [11:13] <ubottu> shepherd, please see my private message [11:31] <jussi01> !idle | shepherd [11:31] <ubottu> shepherd: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [11:47] <topyli> iirc i banned shepherd. if he thinks he was banned because he doesn't believe in god, he hasn't learned much [13:17] <elkbuntu> who has ubot4? [13:17] <elkbuntu> it just seems odd to skip it :P [13:20] <jussi01> elkbuntu: it was around for a while... [13:20] <jpds> elkbuntu: I thought no0tic had a 4 at one point. [13:21] <elkbuntu> i have no idea. they just seem to appear [13:22] <jpds> That would be my fault. [13:26] <elkbuntu> ubot5 just needs a namechange [13:37] <jpds> elkbuntu: I'll look into it later today. [13:38] <elkbuntu> it's not specifically your fault, and it's probably a fair assumption to believe that there needs to be the space filled properly anyway [14:03] <jpds> There we go. [14:04] <jpds> +ping [14:11] <Seeker`> morning [14:49] <Tm_T> hi Adola how can we help you? [14:49] <Adola> O.o um, I've stumbled in here...On accident [14:49] <Adola> Sorry.... [14:49] <Seeker`> x1250: how can we help you [14:49] <Tm_T> Adola: see topic [14:50] <oobe> Hi i have been banned from #kubuntu its on my list of auto join channels and i didnt notice at first i was wondering if i could be unbanned i dont know why i am banned if someone could help i would appreciate it [14:50] <x1250> Seeker`, there's a guy on #ubuntu-es giving fork bomb commands publicly. This is not the first time he do such stupid things, I want him k-lined or banned from #ubuntu-es [14:51] <Seeker`> jpds: you still about? [14:52] <Tm_T> Trabzonspor: hi how can we help you? [14:52] <Seeker`> oobe: 2008-12-20T22:21:13 <oobe> i would just like to say penis fucker [14:52] <Seeker`> oobe: ring any bells [14:52] <Trabzonspor> that person is true what he said I seen it too [14:53] <Tm_T> Trabzonspor: what person where? [14:53] <jpds> Seeker`: Nop. [14:53] <Trabzonspor> see Seeker`, there's a guy on #ubuntu-es giving fork bomb commands publicly. This is not the first time he do such stupid things, I want him k-lined or banned from #ubuntu-es [14:53] <Trabzonspor> that chat [14:54] <Seeker`> jpds: you're on the access list for -es? [14:54] <jpds> Seeker`: Haven't been there in ages tho. [14:54] <Seeker`> oobe: that is the most recent event that matches your nickname on the bantracker [14:54] <x1250> the guy's nick is "dzup" [14:54] <Seeker`> jpds: have a look at the guy doing forkbombs? [14:54] <bazhang> Trabzonspor, please depart if you have no business here [14:54] <Trabzonspor> OK why [14:54] <jpds> On it. [14:55] <bazhang> Trabzonspor, check the channel topic [14:55] <Trabzonspor> so what use going to do [14:55] <Tm_T> Trabzonspor: thanks for the heads up, it will be dealt with [14:55] <Trabzonspor> OK if I was a admin I would block him or band him for weeks [14:55] <jpds> x1250: Appears to be silent at teh moment. Will keep eye on it. [14:56] <oobe> oh ok Seeker` i didnt know what i did somtimes i random banter when the channel is to quite i wont do it again [14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> @login [14:56] <ubottu> The operation succeeded. [14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin [14:56] <Seeker`> Trabzonspor: Thankyou for letting us know. We will deal with the issue [14:56] <Tm_T> Trabzonspor: thanks, you can go now (: [14:56] <Trabzonspor> OK [14:56] <Seeker`> oobe: stdin is the one that banned you, you should talk to him to get unbanned, when he is around [14:56] <oobe> hm heh its not that important [14:57] <oobe> i guess i dont really need to be there i dont require support and i only answer questions occasionally [14:57] <Seeker`> well, if you want to be unbanned, you need to speak to stdin when he is around [14:58] <oobe> oh ok [14:58] <Seeker`> I dont know when he will be back, but I would say come back in 2 hours and see if he is back [14:59] <x1250> jpds, here's what happened: http://paste.ubuntu.com/109414/ he asked what that command did, and asked people to run it. [14:59] <Seeker`> oobe: until then, please leave the channel [14:59] <jpds> x1250: I speak Spanish, don't worry. [15:00] <x1250> jpds, ok, thanks :) [15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Any other ops think we should change our factoids for languages to /join #Ubuntu-whatever as the users never seem to get that right and we end up telling them manually [16:25] <topyli> Jack_Sparrow: a standard like "this channel is english only. to chat in klingon, do "/join #ubuntu-kl" might work i guess [16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> topyli I didnt mean to add a factoid as much as change where we tell them the channel to include the actual command and not just the channel name [16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> topyli Sorry took me a sec to understand that Kilngon isnt a language adopted by any country.. yet [16:27] <topyli> yes i do see. they usually say something like "klingonese chat in #ubuntu-kl". might change to be more helpful [16:27] <topyli> hehe [16:28] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, that's the undiscovered country [16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Actually would be cool to have one for that [16:28] <topyli> as far as i'm concerned, klingon is welcomme on any channel! [16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Atlantis adopts Klingon as official language [16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> topyli Make the channel.. and they will come [16:30] <topyli> we would need an operator there who actually speak klingon [16:30] <topyli> i couldn't tell when users are offtopic [16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> who would care? [16:30] <topyli> heh, true [16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Half would go there just to learn it [16:32] <topyli> there's a finnish MP who has a homepage in finnish, swedish, english and klingon [16:32] <topyli> http://www.kasvi.org/index.php?kli [16:45] <Moniker42> i'm sure that was at the web designer's request :D [16:48] <topyli> dunno, he is a genuine nerd. he does admit in the comments that he had the translation done and doesn't actually speak it himself [19:49] <Flannel> 8.04.2 vim trouble #2 [20:58] <mohi> hey [20:58] <mohi> we dont have locobot in #ubuntu-ir. he finished? [21:00] <jpds> mohi: Try: #ubuntu-eu, they run the bots. [21:00] <mohi> ok ty jpds [22:25] <[SkG]> hi [22:26] <[SkG]> I was banned from #ubuntu because of issues with my connection, I fixed it, can remove my ban please? [22:27] <[SkG]> —› raw 470: #ubuntu ##fix_your_connection Forwarding to another channel [22:32] <Mez> @bansearch oobe [22:32] <ubottu> No matches found for [email protected] in any channel [22:33] <Myrtti> hello babes [22:33] <Mez> Myrtti: that @ me? [22:33] <Mez> @bansearch [SkG] [22:33] <ubottu> No matches found for [skg]!n=dark@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332 in any channel [22:34] <[SkG]> ewww that bot is broken [22:34] <[SkG]> =P [22:35] <Mez> [SkG]: I can't see any forward to that channel [22:35] <[SkG]> uhm [22:36] <[SkG]> still forwarding [22:36] <[SkG]> (23:35:51) ([SkG]) uhm [22:36] <[SkG]> (23:35:55) —› raw 470: #ubuntu ##fix_your_connection Forwarding to another channel [22:37] <Myrtti> Mez: to everyone in general [22:38] <Mez> Myrtti: ah [22:38] * Mez waves [22:41] <Mez> might have found it [SkG] one sec [22:41] <[SkG]> ok, ty [22:42] <Mez> [SkG]: unfortunately, I can't tell if it's actually you [22:42] <[SkG]> uhm why? [22:43] <[SkG]> it's an ip ban? [22:43] <Mez> yeah, and you have a mask [22:43] <Mez> which SHOULDNT ban you [22:44] <Mez> remember WHEN you were banned? [22:44] <[SkG]> eww yes [22:44] <[SkG]> Session Close: Fri Jan 23 08:30:23 2009 [22:44] <[SkG]> Session Start: Fri Jan 23 08:30:23 2009 [22:44] <[SkG]> European time [22:44] <[SkG]> uhmm... 84.76.... [22:45] <Mez> .xx1.11 ? [22:45] <[SkG]> yes [22:45] <Mez> your clock is 20 seconds out :D [22:45] <[SkG]> maybe [22:46] <Mez> try joining [22:46] <[SkG]> ty ^^ [22:46] <Mez> detective work [22:46] <Mez> how're you Myrtti ? [22:46] <[SkG]> seems that ip bans are strong [22:46] <Mez> apparently so :D [22:47] <[SkG]> ty for all [22:47] <Myrtti> Mez: just back from Littlehampton, knackered but happy. Just had a mug of hot choc and cheking my flickr and stuff [22:47] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3221832617/ [22:47] <Mez> ah, back in finland? [22:47] <Myrtti> nope, Warboys [22:48] <Mez> where the **** is that? [22:48] <Myrtti> Cambridgeshire [22:48] <Mez> never mind, google maps to the win :D [22:48] * Mez just finished his last shift at work ! [22:51] <Myrtti> it's amazing how small place England is and how cramped it is [22:52] <Mez> lol, yeah... but we do have some nice countryside :D [22:53] <Myrtti> I'm just looking at the flickr map of my pictures and watching the route we just drove back home, and can't believe that short trip can take so little time - but then I always somehow imagine bigger of the Isles is about the size of Finland. [22:53] <Seeker`> Mez: how did it go? [22:53] <Seeker`> sorry, should me Myrtti [22:54] * Mez doesnt feel loved [22:55] <Myrtti> Seeker`: very nicely, I finished my knitted gift shawl for the Mum just before we left this morning :-) Lovely people. [22:55] <Myrtti> oh [22:55] <Myrtti> I had cream tea yesterday :-D [22:55] <Seeker`> Myrtti: cool. How long did the journey take? [22:55] <Seeker`> ooooooooooooh [22:56] <Myrtti> quite nice and proper :-P [22:56] <Myrtti> the car ride took about three-ish hours [22:56] <Myrtti> one way. We left on Friday evening and just returned about an hour ago [22:56] <Seeker`> went via the dartford tunnel / bridge on the M25? [22:57] <Myrtti> yup, did a detour to Basildon [22:57] <Myrtti> that bridge took my breath away [22:57] <Seeker`> hehe [22:58] <Seeker`> my girlfriend hates driving over it [23:02] <Seeker`> Myrtti: meeting the parents went ok then [23:06] <Myrtti> very [23:07] <Seeker`> :D [23:10] <Myrtti> I've got a bag full of Rock from Littlehampton :-D [23:16] <Seeker`> haha [23:17] <Seeker`> how much longer are you in england for? [23:18] <Myrtti> one week :-/ [23:23] <Seeker`> whatcha got planned? [23:27] <Myrtti> nothing really. Work. prolly Cambridge. |