2009/08/17/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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[01:32] <ScottK> lex79: Around for a moment.  Paste a link and I'll get it eventually.
[01:33] <lex79> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/394059/pkg-kde-tools_0.4.11ubuntu2.debdiff
[01:33] <lex79> ScottK: ^^
[01:38] <seele> argh.. 4.3 update failed
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[04:15] <maco> was there a quassel update today? suddenly things are highlighting in orange instead of pink and join/parts are purple
[04:15] <ScottK> I did one on Friday I think.
[04:16] <nhandler> ScottK: Yeah, Friday you uploaded 0.5.0~git090814-0ubuntu1
[04:19] <maco> hrm this version doesn't wrap long lines properly
[04:20] <maco> they continue a few characters off the right edge of the screen
[04:21] <ScottK> Hmm.
[04:21] <ScottK> Maybe Sput needs a smack.
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[04:21] <maco> lik santiago-ve's quit goes "Connection reset by p"
[04:24]  * ScottK hides all those anyway.
[04:35] <maco> ScottK: in the "Chat View" settings, there's "use sender coloring" ... when i check that, there are two rows of color buttons and the top and bottom buttons above/below each other match. do you know why? im unsure if they simply didnt want to come up with a dozen default colors or if those are paired (maybe top row for avail, bottom for away?)
[04:36] <ScottK> I don't.  IIRC that is in the middle of being redesigned and if it's not clear you should talk to Sput about making it more so.
[04:36] <maco> is Sput around?
[04:38] <ScottK> He lives in +0200, so unlikely.
[04:39] <maco> oh
[04:51]  * yuriy just caused some crazy infinite loop in arora
[05:04] <ScottK> lex79: Uploaded.  Thanks.
[06:14] <Sput> maco: I just didn't come up with enough default colors, because I'm really bad at this - suggestions (that go well with oxygen) very welcome.
[06:14] <Sput> I'm partially color blind, so I'm not the best guy to ask when it comes to colors :)
[06:15] <maco> funny, that
[06:15] <maco> my boyfriend is also partially colorblind, yet he's the one always pointing out when i dont match
[06:16] <maco> he can do things like "your headband and shirt dont match. i know because i can see the shade of green on the headband and not the one on the shirt"
[06:17] <maco> but ok thank you. i was going to ask for tooltips if there was something more complicated than "here's a list of colors"
[06:26] <Sput> maco: concerning the wordwrap problem, do you happen to use a different font now than you did before? there's still that upstream bug in Qt where QTextLayout sometimes wraps wrongly with certain fonts
[06:26] <Sput> wondering if it's the same.
[06:26] <Sput> though that usually just is one character, not several
[06:29] <maco> i use Inconsolata 10. its what i used before too. for *some* reason, after an upgrade my font was reset to some proportional font
[06:29] <maco> i set it back to Inconsolata
[06:29] <maco> and actually it looks like text which came in after that font change is wrapped properly
[06:30] <maco> but the text wasnt re-wrapped when i changed font / font size
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[06:46] <Sput> maco: so after a client restart, the problem would be gone?
[06:47] <maco> yeah probably
[06:48] <maco> well may depend on quassel v. quasselclient...
[06:48] <maco> dunno what the former would do but since the latter gets all the text after startup, id be surprised if it still tried to follow the old font's wrap rules...
[06:49] <Sput> mmm. nah, I think I probably forget something cached somewhere
[06:49] <Sput> will have a look at that
[06:49] <Sput> the old quassel wouldn't be able to change the font at runtime anyway :)
[06:49] <Sput> (e.g. not re-render old lines at all)
[06:49] <maco> oh
[07:04] <maco> Sput: hey can i make my name not italic?
[07:05] <Sput> yeah, currently by putting something like this in a custom .qss file and choosing it as custom stylesheet:
[07:05] <Sput> ChatLine::sender[sender="self"] {
[07:05] <Sput>  font-style: normal;
[07:05] <Sput> }
[07:05] <maco> oh
[07:05] <Sput> I'm not sure if that stays in the default stylesheet though
[07:06] <Sput> this is still a bit work-in-progress and feedback-gathering :)
[07:08] <maco> hey, how come sometimes quasselclient starts reading 4-digit KB/s from disk?
[07:08] <maco> ive seen my disk start thrashing and iotop blame quasselclient a few times
[09:59] <taavikko> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arora/+bug/406503 any thoughts?
[09:59] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 406503 in arora ""kubuntu_03_flash_install_prompt.diff" Fails to locate manually installed libflashplayer.so" [Undecided,New]
[10:20] <jussi01> hrm, does someone feel like confirming a bug for me?
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[11:16] <Riddell> taavikko: yes it could be improved
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[12:59] <jussi01> ok, if someone cares to test, itd be nice. do "sudo apt-get install pioneers*" this will install all the pioneers stuff. then, start pioneers server, select a config - what comes up is fine, then press start, then try to "launch pioneers client"
[12:59] <jussi01> after that, try adding computer players...
[13:00] <jussi01> please tell me if you can play the game?
[13:52] <ryanakca> Tonio_: Hurray, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/frescobaldi ;)
[13:53] <Tonio_> ryanakca: hehehe
[13:53] <Tonio_> that was a long run.... I forgot about it :)
[13:55] <ryanakca> Tonio_: When are you moving to this side of the pond?
[13:56] <Tonio_> ryanakca: then pond ? I don't know the word my friend :)
[13:57] <ryanakca> Tonio_: pond == étang ... When are you comming to Quebec?
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[14:31] <james_w> process-removals is suggesting that we remove koffice, does anyone have an opinion on that?
[14:46] <ryanakca> Is there any difference between the OEM installer and the standard installer?
[14:46] <ryanakca> And how can I call the OEM from a kde session?
[14:48] <Riddell> the OEM installer is two things, ubiquity in OEM mode then the oem setup tool
[14:49] <ryanakca> Riddell: OK... so if I hit 'Quit' from the OEM installer, I have to way to get back into it apart from rebooting?
[14:49] <Riddell> ryanakca: which one?
[14:50] <ryanakca> Riddell: well, to restatr the OEM installation, so ubiquity in OEM mode. I'm guessing the OEM setup tool is run when the end-user turns on his/her desktop, if not, it too...
[14:50] <Riddell> you can restart ubiquity
[14:50] <Riddell> I don't know if the OEM setup tool has a quit button
[14:51] <Riddell> OEM config I should call it
[14:53] <ryanakca> Riddell: OK, thanks
[15:23] <ryanakca> How can I debug apport when it doesn't do anything after I hit 'Send'?
[15:24] <Riddell> run /usr/share/apport/apport-kde from command line?
[15:35] <ryanakca> Riddell: Nothing happens
[15:36] <ryanakca> Riddell: I'm guessing that all apport does is take the crash file from /var/crash , cut them up into several smaller files and upload them along with the bug report?
[15:50] <Riddell> ryanakca: yes, it should then run a web browser
[15:52] <ryanakca> Riddell: it fails to do so. Might just be plasma-netbook acting up though... *shrug* ... OEM install failed miserably, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/2875/299
[16:05] <rgreening> Aurélien Gâteau and Jonathan Riddell are the Scotto­ French
[16:05] <rgreening> -
[16:05] <rgreening> connection of KDE awesome. They both like KDE, they both work
[16:05] <rgreening> for Canonical, they both like Karaoke and they just started
[16:05] <rgreening> a Country band.
[16:05] <rgreening> One of the above is not true.
[16:06] <rgreening> I read that and fell off my chair...
[16:07] <Riddell> I have no idea what he was thinking
[16:07]  * maco puts a cowboy hat on Riddell's head
[16:24] <rgreening> :)
[21:11] <ScottK> ryanakca: My experience is that sometimes apport with plasma-netbook starts the browser, sometimes not.   No idea why.
[21:41] <micmord> akonadi-server: Depends: mysql-server-core-5.0 but it is not installable
[21:41] <micmord> mysql upgrade to 5.1
[21:43] <ScottK> micmord: Karmic?
[21:43] <micmord> yes
[21:43] <jussi01> hrm, I asked this earlier, got no response cause channel was dead, so maybe someone has time to check now...
[21:43] <ScottK> In the middle of switching from 5.0 to 5.1 as the supporte mysql.  Please file a bug so we don't forget.
[21:44] <jussi01> on jaunty:
[21:44] <jussi01> [14:59:16] <jussi01> ok, if someone cares to test, itd be nice. do "sudo apt-get install pioneers*" this will install all the pioneers stuff. then, start pioneers server, select a config - what comes up is fine, then press start, then try to "launch pioneers client"
[21:44] <jussi01> [14:59:32] <jussi01> after that, try adding computer players...
[21:44] <jussi01> [15:00:18] <jussi01> please tell me if you can play the game?
[21:48] <micmord> m
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[23:42] <ryanakca> ScottK: OK, thanks
[23:48] <Riddell> ~twitter update @simonjgray your fault?  http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/aug/07/local-government-open-source-birmingham-website-costs
[23:48] <kubotu> status updated
[23:53] <lex79> Riddell: can you upload ktorrent?