2011/09/23/#kubuntu.txt

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[00:04] <rodriesp> hey, what happens that i can't find common image of Kubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, I can only download the optimized for Mac only
[00:06] <macer1> rodriesp, download dvd version then
[00:06] <macer1> or daily build cd
[00:07] <rodriesp> ahh, ok
[00:07] <rodriesp> daily build is beta 2?
[00:07] <Unit193> rodriesp: Check the topic
[00:08] <Unit193> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/11.10/beta-2/
[00:09] <rodriesp> ok
[00:16] <Ibis> In windows, if I wanted to add manually add Kubuntu to boot option, how would the command appear?
[00:16] <winut> i found dailies to be a bit risque on buntu distros myself! but maybe just a couple of bad eggs?
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[00:29] <jogdish> hi, anyone tested out either of the betas for 11.10?
[00:31] <winut> yeah, 11.10 was good with synaptic, not muon
[00:32] <jogdish> winut:  mm was looking foward to muon, pity. Is it any better than 11.04 that i always found a little slower than 10.10 for booting. Any big changes?
[00:39] <macer1> jogdish, hello 11.10 betatester here :D
[00:40] <macer1> muon is not that bad
[00:40] <jogdish> macer1:  hey, just a fan here, looking foward to this release, Kubuntu being getting very strong in recent, overall how is it?
[00:41] <macer1> jogdish, I have KDE && Unity && gnome-shell
[00:41] <macer1> KDE is working very good :)
[00:41] <macer1> but some small bugs are really annoying...
[00:41] <salty> how do i fix the mbr on my hardrive?
[00:42] <jogdish> macer1:  unity as bad as everyone says, or it like KDE4.0 was , basically give it time?
[00:43] <macer1> unity works now really good, lenses i.e. for gwibber and music are very cool :)
[00:43] <macer1> However I think it was looking better in 11.04
[00:44] <macer1> the bad thing about unity is lack of animations like in KDE/Qt apps, and no kinetic scrooling like in Unity 2D in QML
[00:45] <jogdish> macer1: have you tried Kopete, any big chagnes or has telepaty finnally come?
[00:47] <macer1> jogdish, I haven't been using KDE much before the 4.7 release, I am using Kopete with Jabber and it works with no problems. I don't checked if it is using telepathy backend now.
[00:47] <jogdish> macer1: cool thanks for all the info
[00:48] <macer1> Unity is a really good idea, but I hate that Unity 2D version in QML looks better...
[00:50] <macer1> :<
[00:50] <macer1> and have animations
[01:42] <g0rs> Hi , does anybody use evolution email client?
[01:43] <winut> what is the question?
[01:43] <winut> my dad does
[01:43] <macer1> !anyone | g0rs
[01:43] <ubottu> g0rs: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[01:43] <g0rs> winut: do you know how to enable pgp in evolution, have you done that?
[01:43] <winut> kgpg
[01:44] <g0rs> thanks ubottu
[01:44] <g0rs> !gq
[01:44] <ubottu> Are you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question.
[01:44] <g0rs> !poll
[01:44] <ubottu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[01:44] <winut> do you have that installed?
[01:45] <g0rs> winut: yes i have evolution installed and am using it. I have to enable pgp in int. I downloaded a few plugins and am trying to integrate them with evolution
[01:46] <winut> g0rs: so you can get kgpg working but not with the expected behaviour?
[01:47] <g0rs> winut: I have pgp keys to add to a repository so that evoluation can decrypt emails by looking up the pgp key associated with an email address
[01:47] <g0rs> winut: i have seamonkey and gpa
[01:47] <g0rs> winut: i have to install kgpg if you say so
[01:47] <winut> well i know that kgpg works well with evolution afaik
[01:48] <winut> no harm in trying, its kde specific as well
[01:48] <winut> not that evolution is :-(
[01:49] <g0rs> winut: I like gnome more than kde.. it is more simplisitic and if you use it many times,.. you'd probably prefer gnome over kde
[01:49] <winut> until gnome 3, maybe
[01:49] <g0rs> winut: you might also make gnome look like apple lapotops  with a few tweaks.
[01:50] <winut> but i like a distro that doesn't crash every couple of minutes
[01:50] <g0rs> winut: debian never crashes, i swear
[01:50] <winut> and i cant love unity for the left hand menu arthritis system
[01:50] <g0rs> what is left menu arhiritis system ?
[01:51] <g0rs> somebody injured my body and jaws too . i have some problem . I hope it wont be serious.
[01:52] <winut> well if they stick with the current unity configuration, i wont be using it
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[01:53] <winut> if you could bring the taskbar to the bottom of the screen, i could handle it
[01:53] <g0rs> winut: they are many nutcases who like to injure people so that the healthcare industry would benefit
[01:53] <winut> :-)
[01:53] <g0rs> winut: the healthcare , pharma industries are big brothers in amerika
[01:54] <winut> well its certainly not free over there
[01:54] <g0rs> winut: it is a highly unethical greedy  industry
[01:55] <winut> also the asymmetry of left hand taskbar seems awful to me on unity, thats why the bottom is best imo :-)
[01:55] <g0rs> winut: lof of people are on anti depressants for false reasons becaues big pharma wants them to be hooked onto medication.
[01:56] <winut> i will test 11.10 to see if its stable at least
[01:56] <winut> and they are also stupid enough to take it all!
[01:56] <winut> you cant outsource the blame fully
[01:56] <g0rs> winut: yes they are even though they think they are smart. some are helpless after stress
[01:57] <winut> some people don't have common sense either
[01:57] <g0rs> winut: true, most are influenced by media , tv, doctors
[01:57] <winut> i would rather the average intelligence increased than the number of pushers decreased
[01:57] <g0rs> winut: what do you mean?
[01:58] <winut> i mean sense to see what they can and cant fix themselves
[01:59] <g0rs> winut: I tend to see that some people are obsessed with fixing others and these people have lot of authority, power and influence. In a way they may try to help.
[02:00] <g0rs> winut: the health care industry was kinda against me for some reason :(
[02:00] <winut> ok, so you got doped?
[02:00] <g0rs> winut: i was under mind controlling drugs of big bro
[02:04] <ssfdre38> hey how can i have env LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype run in the background?
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[02:22] <DarthFrog> ssfdre38: Stick it in /etc/rc.local  or in ~/.bash_profile.
[02:23] <DarthFrog> ssfdre38: Or write a script for ~/.kde/Autostart that launches skype and do your LD_PRELOAD beforehand.
[02:24] <ssfdre38> i needed preloaded before hand for my webcam to work
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[03:26] <LINKSWORD2> Yo everybody. I've got a question about Amarok?
[03:29]  * LINKSWORD2 farts.*
[03:39] <LINKSWORD2> Wow. Am I the only one alive here?
[04:10] <DarthFrog> We've all been assimilated.  Resistance was futile.
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[04:35] <kingh3mp> im having trouble puting music on my jump drive thrugh amrock wat do i do ?
[04:36] <kingh3mp> if i cant transfer my music with lenux im going back to windows
[04:38] <kingh3mp> media player 11 was my base knowlege it was easy to use quick build lists to put on my mp3 ive been messing with lenux for the past 3 hours an all i have is a damed playlist
[04:38] <mase_work> i don't know what a jump drive is, but Linux isn't for everyone.if you are happy using windows and you don't care about the lack of freedom then i would suggest you continue using windows if that is what you are comfortable with.
[04:39] <mase_work> oitherwise if you provided more information as to your specific issue, someone may be able to help you
[04:39] <kingh3mp> i have a 4 gb flash drive all im trying to do is but some musick on it
[04:39] <mase_work> and drag / drop doesn't work ?
[04:40] <mase_work> so long as amarok is configured to look for the music on the flash drive it should be able to play it
[04:40] <mase_work> otherwise the file browser in amarok should allow you to play the files directly if you don't want to import them
[04:40] <kingh3mp> no idea how to do that brb im gonna look at somthing
[04:40] <kingh3mp> i want to export
[04:40] <LINKSWORD2> O.o
[04:41] <mase_work> kingh3mp: the music or a play list ?
[04:41] <kingh3mp> the play list
[04:42] <mase_work> play list -> export play list as
[04:42] <LINKSWORD2> Perhaps I should explain in simple terms...
[04:43] <LINKSWORD2> kingh3mp has a stereo that will read a USB key.
[04:43] <LINKSWORD2> He wants to play his music on that stereo, but must first put what he wants onto the key. Quickly.
[04:43] <LINKSWORD2> >.> Otherwise, we will lose him to the Windows monster....
[04:44] <mase_work> LINKSWORD2: _we_ won't lose anything. people are free to do what they like. if windows is better for him / her then they should use windows
[04:45] <kingh3mp> link u fried my stick
[04:45]  * LINKSWORD2 dies laughing.*
[04:45] <LINKSWORD2> Context.... >.>
[04:45]  * kingh3mp kicks link in the junk*
[04:45] <mase_work> morn jono
[04:46] <jono> hey mase_work
[04:46] <kingh3mp> he accidently imported a damaged file and trashed the base data
[04:46] <LINKSWORD2> lost+found file.
[04:47] <kingh3mp> access denied file dosent exist
[04:49] <kingh3mp> 20 dollar paper weight lol now i has it figured out laters
[04:49] <LINKSWORD2> I'm done for the night.
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[06:05] <student> mixa?
[06:05] <mixa> aga
[06:05] <student> ЫЫ
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[06:06] <Morgan> Ы
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[06:08] <Daria> =)
[06:08] <Morgan> =*
[06:08] <Daria> это мило)
[06:08] <Morgan> =)))
[06:08] <Morgan> дааа..
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[06:15] <mixa> кися
[06:15] <mixa> дайте наушники(((
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[08:54] <eshlox> hi, which program gives the ability to control kubunt/ubuntu via android bluethooth? ;->
[08:56] <Mamarok> what exactly do you want to control?
[08:56] <eshlox> hm, now.. some videoplayer, vlc, smplayer, no matter..
[08:57] <Mamarok> so you want to use an Android phone/device as a remote control
[08:58] <Mamarok> check the Android market for that, then
[08:58] <eshlox> ;->
[08:59] <Mamarok> on the Kubuntu side you need kdebluetooth
[09:00] <eshlox> but i think some other bluetooth server
[09:00] <Mamarok> what do you mean, some other?
[09:01] <soee> did you tested Kubuntu 11.10 beta 2 already ?
[09:02] <Mamarok> hm, looks I am a bit outdated, the bluetooth stack for KDE is called bluedevil
[09:02] <Mamarok> soee: I did, but that is not a topic for this channel which is for support for released versions
[09:02] <Mamarok> you can discuss it in #kubuntu-offtopic though
[09:03] <eshlox> Mamarok: ok, in market i found many remote apllications but all need server appliaction installed on computer
[09:04] <Mamarok> server application? I doubt that, all you need is make your device discoverable and the use kanyremote to u7se it as a remote control
[09:04] <Mamarok> use*
[09:34] <nardev> is it possible to have list-view of my desktop files/icons > like this > http://lh4.ggpht.com/_B0CuCDv4i18/SckLBmN4HHI/AAAAAAAABAI/bBcx51pLCo8/desktop-list[11].png
[09:47] <tsimpson> nardev: if you set the desktop to Folderview, then check the settings under "Folder View Setting" and "Display", you should be able to do something similar
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[09:53] <soee> yofel, hi so only perl* things left to do with 4.7.1 for 11.04 ?
[10:01] <naftilos76> is there a GUI for zip that can compress a big file (let's say 50Mbytes) and output the compressed file in segmented parts of 2, 3 ,4 Mbytes?
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[11:27] <yofel> soee: perl's fixed  now too, so the only thing that's left is Q/A
[11:29] <soee> yofel, nice thank you :) when can we ecpect updates for 11.04 ?
[11:30] <yofel> once it's tested enough :P
[11:30] <yofel> somewhere during the weekend I guess
[11:32] <alvin> What perl issues were there?
[11:33] <yofel> package failing to build since it pulled in qmake-qt4 AND qmake-qt3, and latter was used
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:36] <alvin> Thanks. I was about tyo try the beta one of these days, and perl in working order is very important to me.
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[12:56] <nicolas_> Hi!
[12:56] <souledge> hey all
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[12:58] <souledge> anybody having issues with firefox cookie management? I can't actually delete any of them. The install used the main repo and ff is updated
[13:00] <nicolas_> I have a problem with Strigi. I use it a lot with the Alt.+F2 menu to search in my pdf library. But the problem is that as soon as you click on a document found, the Alt.+F2 menu closes down. So the file I click on was not the good one I have to Alt. + F2 again, type de search request again, and scroll down...
[13:01] <nicolas_> So I was wondering if there was another search interface for strigi
[13:01] <nicolas_> of if you have another idea...
[13:04] <souledge> Sounds more like a bug what you mention. nicolas
[13:04] <souledge> hope you find a solution
[13:05] <souledge> working hours seem dead hours here:)
[13:07] <nicolas_> Arf, ok... thank you ;-)
[13:11] <Mamarok> nicolas_: because you use krunner for searching, it is absolutely normal it closes
[13:11] <Mamarok> not a bug :)
[13:12] <Mamarok> try using the find function in Dolphin instead
[13:13] <nicolas_> Ok, I'm having a look. I didn't know the dolphin find function could use strigi
[13:14] <Mamarok> that's default now in KDE4
[13:14] <nicolas_> Mamarok: Wah, that's perfect. Exactly what I wanted!
[13:14] <nicolas_> Mamarok: thank you
[13:15] <Mamarok> nicolas_: you are welcome :)
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[14:38] <markit> hi, I've seen 11.10 beta2 announc... am I blind or there is no link for download the iso? Isn't intended for test? If no one downloads and tries...
[14:39] <markit> oh, found, follow the announcement link
[14:39] <markit> nothing on the home page or the brief announcement there
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[15:00] <ghabit> Добрый день. Ищу хорошие современные игры под ubuntu.
[15:00] <ghabit> Посоветуйте пожалуйста что-нибудь.
[15:00] <ghabit> Спасибо.
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[15:00] <Unit193> !ru | ghabit
[15:00] <ubottu> ghabit: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.
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[16:59] <oliniusz> Hello everybody! I've just cleared accidentally the default shortcut to switch on/off KWin desktop effects, it was ctrl+alt+F12. Could anybody tell me how I can restore one? When I press the combination I'll go to the console black screen. ;)
[17:00] <Peace-> oliniusz: systemsettings
[17:00] <Peace-> oliniusz: shortcuts
[17:01] <Peace-> global keyboard shortcuts
[17:01] <Peace-> select kwin
[17:01] <Peace-> select compositing
[17:01] <Peace-> set your shortcut
[17:02] <Peace-> oliniusz: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/09/23/plasma-desktopiy1580.jpg
[17:05] <oliniusz> Peace: i'm checking...
[17:07] <Peace-> oliniusz: see the picture
[17:09] <oliniusz> thanks Peace, i really thought it was ctrl+alt+F12, actually it's alt+SHIFT+F12
[17:09] <oliniusz> cheers!
[17:09] <Peace-> yes
[17:33] <TheLastProject> A package dependency could not be found.
[17:33] <TheLastProject> More information is available in the detailed report.
[17:33] <TheLastProject> Details: Package minetestc55 is virtual and has no installation candidate
[17:34] <TheLastProject> What does that mean? o-o
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[17:34] <Peace-> what are you doing
[17:34] <TheLastProject> (That's a message from KPackageKit btw)
[17:34] <TheLastProject> Installing minetestc55 using KPackageKit o,o
[17:35] <genii-around> !info minetestc55
[17:35] <ubottu> Package minetestc55 does not exist in natty
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[17:35] <genii-around> Hm
[17:35] <TheLastProject> o,o
[17:36] <TheLastProject> Possible another repostory (that's the word, right?) is sending a bad copy? o,o
[17:37] <TheLastProject> Hmmm, I'll just download it from the official website o,o
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[17:41] <Peace-> TheLastProject: we do not support ufficially stuff outside the official rrepository
[17:41] <TheLastProject> Yeah, well, that's understandable
[17:42] <genii-around> TheLastProject: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds perhaps
[17:42] <TheLastProject> I, however, am not able to see where the package is from and seeing as it's a KPackageKit error this seemed to be the best way to ask what it means =/
[17:42] <TheLastProject> Already found it genii, but thanks anyway
[18:12] <jimmy51_> is this the proper command to compress the contents of a directory into an archive? tar -cvf /home/jimmy51/archive.tar.gz /path/to/files/ ?
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[18:16] <rekcuFniarB> jimmy51_: it only archives, not compressing. You need to add -z  key: tar -czvf
[18:21] <jimmy51_> rekcuFniarB: ah, ok.
[18:21] <jimmy51_> thanks
[19:02] <gunksta> Anyone else seeing CPU spikes in KMail / akonadi when connected to Google's IMAP?
[19:04] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj:  are you there?
[19:06] <acer__> türk varmı aranaızda
[19:07] <phoenix_firebrd> DarthFrog: are you there?
[19:12] <soee> what is the command to do distribution upgrade ?
[19:14] <phoenix_firebrd> soee: apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:14] <genii-around> soee: sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:14] <soee> nope cant upgrade to 11.10b2
[19:15] <soee> sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:15] <soee> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[19:15] <soee> No new release found
[19:15] <gunksta> soee: which did you try?
[19:16] <genii-around> soee: To go to an unstable release with that command, use -d at the end
[19:16] <soee> both
[19:16] <gunksta> soee: do-release-upgrade -d
[19:18] <soee> on now it works, thanks
[19:20] <gunksta> soee: glad it worked. It is also possible for this to fail, especially early in the dev procss because of broken packages. If package a needs package b but it isn't uploaded yet, the upgrade can fail.
[19:44] <neguebera> my system can't handle atl1c and ath9k at the same time. it always get freezes. some of u have an answer?
[19:47] <soee> gunksta, lets hope there wont be any problems :) downloading pkgs atm
[20:06] <gunksta> :soee It would have errored out during the check. It is possible something could happen as you download, but its unlikely.  Good Luck!
[20:08]  * genii-around sips his coffee and waits for something to blow up in spectacular fashion
[20:12] <Peace-> hi everyone :P bed time
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[21:24] <soee> where can i find some booting logs ?
[21:29] <shane2peru> cat /var/log/boot.log
[21:30] <genii-around> boot.log is not usually that informative. the /var/log/dmesg gives you a lot more
[21:33] <soee> saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned what does it mean?
[21:35] <genii-around> soee: It means that flatbed scanner background daemon is turned off by default
[21:36] <soee> im trying to figureout why i cant start system after upgrade to 11.10 b2
[21:37] <genii-around> soee: You should visit #ubuntu+1 for 11.10
[22:44] <SubCool> why does my VNC connection flicker?
[22:44] <SubCool> if i dont move the mous for like 2 seconds it goes black..
[22:56] <gwallace> Is there a way to get updated to beta 2 from the command line
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[22:59] <gwallace1234> Is there a way to get updated to beta 2 from the command line
[23:00] <gwallace1234> I tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it did not find anything that needed to be upgraded.
[23:08] <szal> gwallace1234: #ubuntu+1 can answer you that
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