2015/09/13/#kubuntu-devel.txt

[00:00]  * clivejo fingers crossed
[00:01] <clivejo> unless I put something somewhere it didnt belong.  It wouldnt be the first time!
[00:03] <soee_> people who do not mistake simply do nothing :)
[00:04] <clivejo> soee_: do you know when the final version is due?
[00:04] <soee_> clivejo: amarok ? nope.
[00:05] <clivejo> soee_: know any other who can test it?
[00:05] <soee_> call testers :)
[00:05] <soee_> there is some command, but i do not remember it :(
[07:14] <ovidiu-florin> Apparently I'm having issues submitting translations on launchpad. Can someone please assist me?
[07:49] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:30] <Mamarok> probably not Wiley proper, so likely PPA, I don't think we can make it for Wiley final
[08:30] <Mamarok> do as Debian does: put the beta in Wiley and then get in the final when it's ready
[08:31] <Mamarok> because the beta is pretty stable, I use it since ages
[08:44] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: just to let you know Kdenlive 15.08.0 is completly broken and unusable
[09:17] <yossarianuk> hi - for the last 2 days i've not been able to install Kubuntu 15.10 via daily .iso 
[09:17] <yossarianuk> ubiquity crashes on startup
[09:17] <yossarianuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1495194
[09:17] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1495194 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 15.10 daily (12 +13 sept) unable to install " [Undecided,New]
[09:18] <yossarianuk> is there a workaround 
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[18:42] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[18:58] <TJ-> Just had Konsole hang during a close, backtrace shows its trying to play a sound via gstreamer/pulseaudio, waiting at pa_threaded_mainloop_wait() ... research suggests this issue has/does affect other (Gnome) applications so probably isn't KDE specific. Has anyone else experienced similar?
[18:59] <Riddell> TJ-: nope, I would guess it's specific to your sound card and driver
[18:59] <TJ-> Interesting; first time I've ever seen it. From what I've read its a race condition in the gstreamer callbacks for PA
[19:16] <clivejo> I have a problem with Konsole everytime I close the last window
[19:19] <TJ-> I've hit theme issues I can't seem to solve. I switched to "Breeze Dark" under Desktop Theme and Application Colour Scheme. Most standard File-Open dialogs are unusable because they paint white-on-white
[19:20] <yofel> nothing bad happening here when I close a konsole window..
[19:21] <TJ-> I tested it with Amarok a few minutes ago; hit the issue. Quit the program, changed both themes to the standard Breeze, re-ran Amarok and the same thing happens. 
[19:21] <clivejo> Im currently using Konsole so I cant close it
[19:21] <clivejo> but it always happens when I close the last one of the session
[19:22] <TJ-> yofel: re the PulseAudio hang; from what I read it is caused by a race condition, and isn't all triggered. It depends on timings of the shell 'bell' sound and the Quit action.
[19:22] <TJ-> s/all/always/
[19:22] <TJ-> clivejo: attach to the Konsole process with 'gdb' from another console (or ssh session) and get a backtrace
[19:23] <TJ-> I'm also seeing a lot of compositor corruption when the GPU is close to using 100% of its video RAM. 
[19:26] <TJ-> Something else I was wondering re: themes: Why is it necessary to change both the Desktop Theme and the Application Colour Scheme to get all colours to change? 
[19:31] <TJ-> Just did a re-log-in to check  resource exhaustion isn't causing the File Open Dialog issue. Not sure what package to report that against
[19:43] <soee_> clivejo: did you repacked yesterdayamarok maybe?
[19:43] <clivejo> soee_: sorry, dont understand the question
[19:44] <soee_> clivejo: sorry my keyboard doesn't folow me :) I saw some next amarok updates, and was wondering if you put some fresh version maybe in your ppa?
[19:44] <clivejo> oh that
[19:44] <clivejo> yes
[19:45] <clivejo> Riddell pointed out some files that shouldnt be in the package
[19:45] <soee_> ah so it is more cleanup update than any important ? :)
[19:45] <clivejo> yup
[19:45] <soee_> ok, cool, thanks for info :)
[19:46] <clivejo> need to find out if it will make it into wily or not
[19:47] <soee_> i think it depends if final verson will be released (2.9)
[19:47] <clivejo> yeah, do you know when its due?
[19:48] <soee_> nope, some dev should be asked
[19:49] <clivejo> was calligra packaged?
[19:51] <soee_> there were some upates today
[19:51] <soee_> 2.9.7 version i have
[19:51] <clivejo> Riddell must have done it
[19:51] <clivejo> I attempted it and run out of time
[19:53] <clivejo> yeah 2.9.7 was the one I tried to package
[19:54] <soee_> yup, so this one was released today
[19:56] <clivejo> yup Riddell did it last night
[19:57] <clivejo> then someone called Steve Langasek rebuild it this morning
[20:37] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I really need to know my password on the docsnew.kubuntu.co.uk server lol
[20:44] <valorie> if you got that in a PM, ahoneybun, search your irc logs
[20:45] <ahoneybun> mm?
[20:45] <ahoneybun> I did not at all
[20:49] <valorie> ok
[20:49] <valorie> maybe Riddell will check in irc before going to sleep
[20:51] <ahoneybun> yea its not a big thing
[20:51] <ahoneybun> just want to install sphinx on the server and edit things from there
[20:52] <valorie> cool
[20:53] <ahoneybun> rather then installing it everything I have to format this machine or my laptop....
[20:53] <ahoneybun> valorie: did you see the new domain?
[20:53] <ahoneybun> temp anyway
[20:53] <valorie> yes
[20:53] <ahoneybun> k
[21:12] <soee_> Wily will use Frameworks 5.14.0 ?
[21:14] <valorie> I assume so, since they have been released
[21:19] <ahoneybun> do we have a list of things to be packaged yet
[21:20] <ahoneybun> ?
[21:21] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ^
[21:25] <Riddell> ahoneybun: frameworks and applications both need updates
[21:25] <Riddell> feel free to add trello items for those
[21:26] <Riddell> clivejo: I did calligra, calligra-l10n still needs doing
[21:26] <clivejo> what updates are needed?
[21:26] <ahoneybun> mm I always have issues finding links
[21:26] <clivejo> using that script thing?
[21:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: password for sudo? I'll need to reset it
[21:27] <ahoneybun> I have no idea what it is
[21:27] <Riddell> clivejo: calligra-l10n needs the new version packaged
[21:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: what do you need it for today?
[21:27] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/5.14/?
[21:27] <Riddell> ahoneybun: yes that needs doing
[21:28] <soee_> oh Linux Kernel 4.3 RC1 is out  :)
[21:28] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I want to install sphinx on the server rather then my desktop so it is all synced no matter what device I'm on 
[21:28] <ahoneybun> also this trello card: https://trello.com/c/rGFyOEFP/24-add-instructions-for-checking-the-iso-checksum-in-the-new-docs
[21:28] <ahoneybun> Riddell: do we have a notepad for it?
[21:29] <ahoneybun> KF 5.14
[21:29] <Riddell> nope, but the first step is probably to run the kubuntu-automation script staging-upload
[21:31] <ahoneybun> that's above me atm
[21:33] <clivejo> is the staging ppa ready for them?
[21:34] <Riddell> as ready as it ever is :)
[21:35] <clivejo> if I try it, wil you be about to clean up if the brown stuff hits the fan?
[21:35] <ahoneybun> XD
[21:40] <Riddell> clivejo: go ahead
[21:40] <clivejo> lp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation ?
[21:40] <Riddell> clivejo: yep
[21:40] <Riddell> clivejo: warning, the scripts are buggy and the README is incomplete and out of date, fixes welcome
[21:40] <clivejo> need to set this up locally
[21:41] <Riddell> clivejo: Mamarok is the person you need to ask about Amarok release
[21:41] <clivejo> Riddell: yup Ive a to-do setup to ask him/her tomorrow
[21:42] <Mamarok> I am here, clivejo :)
[21:42] <Riddell> you could ask her now
[21:42] <clivejo> Mamarok: hiding ?!? :P
[21:42] <Mamarok> not at all, I only just came home tonight
[21:42] <clivejo> Im joking with you :)
[21:43] <Mamarok> I know :)
[21:43] <clivejo> you wouldnt be the first to hide from me
[21:43] <clivejo> have you an ETA when the final release will be?
[21:43]  * Mamarok wonders if there is reason to hide...
[21:43] <clivejo> and if it will make it into wily or have to go into backports?
[21:44] <Mamarok> no, no ETA at the moment, so should go to the PPA I think
[21:44] <Mamarok> unless a miracle happens and somebody fixes those weird bugs
[21:44] <clivejo> its in my PPA
[21:45] <clivejo> soee_ has been testing and Ive been using it today
[21:45] <Mamarok> well, I use it since ages, but that endless loop with CDs is really annoying
[21:45] <clivejo> to be honest never really used it before, and I will be in future
[21:46] <Mamarok> mind you,one doesn't have to use CDs with Amarok, better rip those with k3b and add tracks to collection :)
[21:47] <Riddell> clivejo: copy it over to kubuntu-ppa/backports
[21:48] <clivejo> Riddell: I dunno how to copy :/
[21:48] <clivejo> I dont think I have permission to do that
[21:48] <Riddell> clivejo: go to your PPA, click the copy link, fill in form
[21:48] <Riddell> you should have permissions for it
[21:49]  * Riddell snoozes
[21:50] <clivejo> is it apps of frameworks?
[21:50] <clivejo> or
[21:51] <Mamarok> apps
[21:51] <Mamarok> certainly not frameworks
[21:52] <clivejo> oh I thought he said both needed doing
[21:52] <Mamarok> it can't be frameworks as it is still a KDE4 aspp
[21:52] <clivejo> Mamarok: sorry, crossed wires
[21:53] <clivejo> doing two things at the same time here
[21:53] <Mamarok> ok
[21:54] <clivejo> regarding copying do I rebuild or copy existing?
[21:55] <clivejo> pokes Riddell
[21:57] <clivejo> Ive selected rebuild
[22:16] <clivejo> ahoneybun: is there new frameworks and apps released?
[22:16] <ahoneybun> frameworks 5.14
[22:16] <ahoneybun> http://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/5.14/
[22:17] <ahoneybun> I'm guessing none have been done yet
[22:17] <clivejo> grrr
[22:18] <clivejo> Permission denied (publickey).
[22:19] <clivejo> something wrong with my ssh to depot.kde.org
[22:26] <clivejo> Im gonna have to wait until Riddell or yofel are around
[22:27] <clivejo> doing this locally is different to doing it on EC