2008/05/02/#ubuntu-ops.txt

[00:01] <hischild> thank you ompaul 
[00:01] <gnomefreak> he didnt want to come back i guess
[00:02] <hischild> just put his priv msg's on ignore. He started to annoy me as well. 
[00:11] <hischild> i wish you all the best of luck, don't get drunk to much and i'll see you all around later. Thanks so far. 
[00:33] <ffm> Hey, think we should also have ubuntu logged by http://irseek.com/ ?
[00:34] <ffm> It's searchable, as opposed to the current log system, and is external and thus, independant (this would be in addition to the current logging scheme)
[00:34] <PriceChild> ffm: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2007-December/000383.html
[00:34] <ffm> PriceChild, Thanks.
[00:35] <ffm> By the way, is there any way for me to see the earliest thing said by a person in a certan channel? (back a few years, google gives only current results)
[00:35] <elky_work> irclogs.ubuntu.com
[00:35] <mneptok> ffm: got a flux capacitor?
[00:36] <ffm> mneptok, I wish.
[00:36] <ffm> elky_work, Does that let me search?
[00:36] <ffm> (other than "site:irclogs.ubuntu.com" on google)
[00:37] <elky_work> ffm, they're ordered by date. logic should help
[00:37] <mneptok> vulcan chicks are hawt.
[00:38] <elky_work> ffm, logic takes one to: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2004/07/05/
[00:40] <ubottu> fde called the ops in #ubuntu
[01:01] <ubottu> BluesKaj called the ops in #kubuntu
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[02:41] <ubottu> Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu
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[06:26] <ubottu> patifa called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:27] <ubottu> c called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:29] <ubottu> Bodsda called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:30] <Bodsda> anyone here with power in #ubuntu
[06:30] <stdin> I don't think anyone with powers is awake, or they'd have acted by now
[06:31] <Bodsda> damn -- oh well will recall in 5 then
[06:36] <ubottu> c called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:36] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo 
[06:36] <bodhi_zazen> troll in #ubuntu and I can no op
[06:36] <ubottu> RoAk called the ops in #ubuntu-irc
[06:36] <ubottu> RyanPrior called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:37] <Bodsda>  bodhi_zazencan u poke peoplelike nuckrud and trtium
[06:37] <Bodsda> nickrud
[06:37] <Bodsda> PriceChild: 
[06:37] <jdong> ??
[06:37] <jdong> the ops get notified on bot triggers anyway
[06:37] <RyanPrior> Yo dudes. Serious troll spammer in #ubuntu.
[06:37] <jdong> doesn't seem to be anyone alive with access in #ubuntu
[06:39] <Bodsda> is there no sorta emrgency access for another op or anything? not really an emergency just a thought
[06:39] <bodhi_zazen> nope, too bad ...
[06:39] <jdong> staffers might be awake
[06:39] <ubottu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:39] <bodhi_zazen> jdong, you can't op #ubuntu :(
[06:40] <RyanPrior> Somebody call Canonical. =D
[06:40] <jdong> bodhi_zazen: no I don't have any op powers in irc kingdom.
[06:40] <jdong> which is a good thing for my sanity :)
[06:40] <bodhi_zazen> too bad
[06:40] <bodhi_zazen> I can op some channels and I thought #ubuntu, alas
[06:41] <jdong> !staff | ^^ trolls in #ubuntu, no ops alive
[06:41] <ubottu> ^^ trolls in #ubuntu, no ops alive: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary,  I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:41] <ubottu> Bodsda called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:41] <elky_work> who are we talkign about?
[06:41] <jdong> oh.
[06:41] <jdong> right after I hit the big red button.
[06:42] <elky_work> im at work and could get fired for this, who are we talking about?
[06:42] <Bodsda> AHMADADJINE guy
[06:42] <stdin> ok, it's been dealt with now
[06:42] <Bodsda> thanks
[06:42] <Bodsda> thanks alot
[06:44] <adam7> thanks :)
[06:44] <stdin> we'd request that, if you have no further business here, you /part, we like to keep this channel free of idlers
[06:45] <stdin> besides idle ops, obviously :p
[06:46] <ubottu> Bodsda called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:46] <Bodsda> same guy
[06:46] <stdin> *sigh*
[06:49]  * elky_work headdesks
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> elky_work: um, if you could get fired for being on irc, why are you?
[07:00] <elky_work> tonyyarusso, not for being on irc, for wasting time
[07:00] <elky_work> #ubuntu is a time sink
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> ah
[07:01] <elky_work> as it is, i got glares for spending the time to op stdin up, as we're in the middle of debugging our network
[07:01] <stdin> you known #ubuntu's in bad shape when you have to op me :p
[07:02] <elky_work> as it is, i flee in half an hour to get to my LUG meet
[07:03] <AndrewB> elky_work: i would advise a   /mode +d wsdwd*wd   in #ubuntu   as that troll is going to return
[07:04] <elky_work> stdin, can you do that, i've /part'd
[07:04] <stdin> done
[07:05] <AndrewB> Also, the reason for this remorse is because you guys don't contact when you ban your users
[07:05] <elky_work> AndrewB, i am at work. i have no time to contact them. i stop the channel disruption. the person spouting is not worth more than my job.
[07:06] <AndrewB> elky_work: I understand that not all instances you can contact the user, but you guys are a team right?
[07:07] <elky_work> AndrewB, team is plural, if im the only one here, that is singular.
[07:07] <elky_work> *you* are now wasting my time
[07:08] <AndrewB> elky_work: would it have been too much to type "Hey guys banning $ can somebody contact him on his behaviour"
[07:08] <elky_work> AndrewB, this channel had not enough an indication?@!
[07:08] <elky_work> seriously, please read the scrollback
[07:09] <elky_work> the past fourty minutes of scrollback
[07:09] <AndrewB> Ok, well I see nothing of that.
[07:09] <elky_work> then dont judge
[07:10] <AndrewB> Sorry?
[07:10] <AndrewB> and I did not mean this instance of the ban anyway, it was a few days ago.
[07:10] <elky_work> then do not snark comments at me.
[07:10] <AndrewB> it's quite possible it wasn't even you that banned the user
[07:11] <AndrewB> I didn't aim the comment at anybody.
[07:11] <elky_work> like hell you didnt
[07:13] <AndrewB> Honestly guys, after I saw the trolling i contacted the user. The reason I identified he was doing this is because he was banned and not contacted reguarding what he done wrong. It would be fantastic if you could even one liner people and tell them, try to resolve the situation if you have time. If not why not work as a team on the operation and get one of your fellow helpers to contact. I understand not every situation you can 
[07:15] <jdong> AndrewB: perhaps this discussion should be continued on the mailing list as few ops are active at the moment
[07:17] <Myrtti> !idle
[07:17] <ubottu> Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> AndrewB: perhaps people should read their remove messages.
[07:28] <ubottu> Bodsda called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:29] <ubottu> n2diy called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> aw crud, ubottu doesn't have the name pasting feature
[07:30] <stdin> that was never committed to bzr, so only ubotu had it
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> why wasn't it committed?
[07:35]  * stdin has no clue
[07:35] <stdin> only one person can answer that, and they aren't here any more
[07:41] <Bodsda> oops, sorry for idling will leave in a sec -- wheres ubotu? is he sick again?
[07:43] <Bodsda> ok, not a chatty time of day ;~) bye
[08:20] <ubottu> KAMPIZJ called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:03] <ubottu> KAMPIZJ called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:03] <ubottu> DistroJockey called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:04] <ubottu> KAMPIZJ called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:04] <Gary> bazhang: lol, thats just what I went to do
[09:05] <bazhang> Gary: I muted him but he is not responding--is that the right way to go?
[09:05] <Gary> it's up to the normal ops, I always mute, as it is not my channel to go banning/kicking etc
[09:06] <bazhang> ah okay thanks Gary
[09:07] <ikonia> can we ban that address
[09:07] <ikonia> he's just turned up under another nick
[09:07] <ubottu> COMBIZ called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:07] <ikonia> ahh stdin has it
[09:07] <ikonia> thank you
[09:07] <stdin> I was watching for it that time :)
[09:10] <Gary> if any bans/mutes I have set no longer apply, you are more than welcome to remove them
[09:12] <stdin> I'm glad we have the bantracker back now :D
[09:13] <ubottu> zibcom called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:13] <ikonia> same ip again
[09:14] <bazhang> unmute him?
[09:14] <ikonia> he's come in on the same ip under 3 nicks and done the same thing 3 times
[09:15] <ikonia> he'll be back in a minute under a different IP 
[09:15] <ikonia> sorry,. different nick, same IP
[09:15] <stdin> ikonia: nearly the smme IP 213.217.35.247 213.217.39.57
[09:15] <Gary> just ban 213.217.* :p
[09:15] <ikonia> stdin: they show up the same for me
[09:16] <ikonia>  KAMPIZJ [[email protected]
[09:16] <ikonia>  COMBIZ [[email protected]]
[09:16] <ikonia>  zibcom [[email protected]]
[09:16] <stdin> he changes IP when I ban one
[09:17] <ikonia> ahh, I didn't see the change
[09:17] <stdin> banned it, but I don't think it'll make much difference
[09:17] <stdin> dynamic IP so he just reconnects
[09:18] <stdin> we'll end up banning an entire ISP at this rate
[09:18] <ikonia> I remember having a conversation with either Pici or LjL about contacting ISP's about breach of TOC
[09:18] <ikonia> and that this practice wasn't really worth the effort
[09:19] <stdin> most ISP just wouldn't care
[09:19] <kloeri> contacting abuse@ sometimes works but it's a lot of effort and you have to be really convincing that the user is bad news in my experience
[09:20] <ikonia> I've had excellent responses from UK isp's
[09:20] <ikonia> but I guess it's contry specific
[09:22] <kloeri> I once spend the better part of a month sending 100kb+ logs to an isp of a troll spewing all kinds of really bad racisme, making personal threats against me and others, ban/kline evasion and so on before the isp reacted
[09:23] <kloeri> it did the job in the end though but rather a lot of work to get there
[09:23] <ikonia> yes, I imagine it varies from isp to isp
[09:24] <kloeri> definitely
[09:40] <christel> ikonia: yeah, and i guess it's also a bit dependant on a) getting through to someone who cares and b) what the user actually did
[09:41] <christel> we generally find it yields results though, and helps develop a healthy relationship with various ISPs -- can take a bit of time mind :)
[09:57] <jpatrick> who... had the !.0ps freenze? :-/
[09:59] <jpatrick> oh, well
[10:12] <Mez> elkbuntu, nalioth PriceChild LjL PING!!!
[10:19] <Mez> or anyone related to the bot PING
[10:19] <jpatrick> Mez: jussio1 
[10:19] <Mez> jpatrick, hes the one who hosts it, there may be others
[10:19] <Mez> but - *has news*
[10:20] <jpatrick> but he is related :-)
[10:20] <Mez> Canonical are happy to host ubotu
[10:20] <jussio1> Mez: pomg
[10:21] <Mez> jussi01, who in the council are you coordinating with regarding the bot ?
[10:22] <jussio1> Mez: There has been no "council" as such, just everyone taking care of it. but If you ask me it will be the IRC council dealing with it. 
[10:22] <jussio1> I have been dealing with nalioth and PriceChild mostly
[10:23] <jussio1> Mez: IMHO we need to have a meeting of interested/concerned parites
[10:24] <Mez> jussi01, Indeed. Well, I've just had word back from sabdfl that Canonical can host it, and we need to find someone to be the contact between the IRC team and Canonical for setting it up and the day-to-day running of it
[10:25] <jussio1> ok. When is the next IRC council meeting?
[10:26] <Mez> I dont know if one is scheduled. Though I think this kind of thing warrants an emergency meeting maybe?
[10:27] <stdin> oh, am I still +o?
[10:27] <jussio1> Mez: we need to ask the Members of the IRC council to convene one then.
[10:27]  * stdin deops
[10:28] <Mez> jussi01, indeed. Hence the pings above (though to be fair, it doesnt even need to be a formal meeting does it?)
[10:29] <jussio1> Mez: I think it does. this needs to be done right, so a formal eeting with formal decisions needs to be taken
[11:38] <Seeker`> Will any meeting be open to the "public"?
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[11:44] <stdin> Seeker`: all meetings are
[12:02] <Tm_T> hi kids
[12:04] <Myrtti> meaaahhhggh
[12:06]  * Tm_T hugs Myrtti 
[12:10] <gnomefreak> anyone in here have nvidia-glx-new + Hardy + firefox-3.0 and is interested in crashing X/gdm/compiz or firefox?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> no chancing me around the net either :(
[12:10] <gnomefreak> chasing even
[12:20] <AndrewB> tonyyarusso: removing them only add's heat to an already heated channel. I think the discussion of ML may be correct.
[12:21] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: I have that problem
[12:22] <gnomefreak> can we get a airconditioned channel since we have heated ones
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Seeker`: you are able to reproduce?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> what am i missing than
[12:23] <Pici> Yuck, lots of hilights in my away log.
[12:28] <jrib> !help
[12:28] <ubottu> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose pwodered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeus looks in the near future ;)
[12:28] <jrib> !-help
[12:28] <ubottu> help is <alias> ubotu - added by Seveas on 2006-06-21 00:28:59
[12:28] <jrib> !ubotu =~ s/pwodered/powdered/
[12:28] <ubottu> I'll remember that jrib
[12:28] <jrib> !ubotu =~ s/gorgeus/gorgeous/
[12:29] <jrib> !help
[12:29] <ubottu> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
[12:32] <PriceChild> Mez: I heard about that some time ago, left a message with elmo and afaik have yet to hear back.
[12:32] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: If i visit a certain site, yes
[12:32] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: lost the link to the site though
[12:32] <gnomefreak> do you have  asite handy that i can try this on the one they give i cant reproduce
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:33] <Myrtti> jrib: thanks.
[12:33] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/4986 I believe
[12:33] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: But I am not at home so I cannot test atm
[12:33] <gnomefreak> thats the one they give
[12:33] <gnomefreak> i cant crash it on that
[12:34] <Seeker`> :/
[12:34] <Seeker`> That is the only one I've foundd with it on
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ok thanks i might know the cause now :)
[12:37] <Seeker`> oh?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> yeah i think it might be xulrunner but im gonna find out in a few on my other system
[12:38] <gnomefreak> be back soon
[12:44] <Hobbsee> damn.
[12:44] <Hobbsee> no scrollback
[12:50] <Hobbsee> !logs
[12:50] <ubottu> Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[12:57] <ubottu> In ubottu, Mez said: !meetings is =~ s/ubotu/ubottu/
[12:57] <Mez> <ubottu> You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
[12:57] <Mez> grr
[12:58] <Mez> (I've been giving it factoids)(
[12:58] <Myrtti> !meetings is =~ s/ubotu/ubottu/
[12:58] <ubottu> I know nothing about meetings is yet, Myrtti
[12:59] <Mez> !meetings =~ s/ubotu/ubottu/
[12:59] <Mez> maybe?
[12:59]  * Mez is confused
[12:59] <Mez> stupid bot doesnt like me
[13:00] <Myrtti> !meetings =~ s/ubotu/ubottu/
[13:00] <ubottu> I'll remember that Myrtti
[13:00] <Myrtti> !meetings
[13:00] <ubottu> Team meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting - See « /msg ubottu logs » for transcripts.
[13:00] <Mez> !yourself
[13:00] <Mez> !brain
[13:00] <Mez> !factoid
[13:00] <Myrtti> !-youself
[13:00] <ubottu> Factoid youself not found
[13:00] <Mez> !botabuse
[13:00] <Myrtti> !-yourself
[13:00] <ubottu> yourself is <alias> ubotu - added by Seveas on 2006-06-17 14:39:27
[13:00] <Mez> !changethemes
[13:02] <Hobbsee> Mez: i've already spoken with the council ( i poked mark too), and PriceChild's going to do it.
[13:02] <Hobbsee> (this was also said here, in this channel, last night)
[13:02] <Mez> Hobbsee, cool - I was just relaying a message that was in my highlight log
[13:03] <Mez> I wasnt here last nigh
[13:03] <Mez> t
[13:03] <Hobbsee> right
[13:07] <Myrtti> !yourself
[13:07] <ubottu> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
[13:08] <Pici> i'm in ur ubotu stealin ur factoids?
[13:08] <gnomefreak> Seeker`: i was wrong :(
[13:25]  * jrib readies trigger finger
[13:26] <Tm_T> Pici: help me
[13:26] <Myrtti> whaddaya need, hon
[13:26] <Pici> Tm_T: what am I helping you with?
[13:27] <Tm_T> Pici: /ban *!*gordboy@* in #ubuntu
[13:27] <Tm_T> I cannot
[13:27] <Pici> Tm_T: ah, jrib got it
[13:28] <Tm_T> aah great
[13:28] <Tm_T> I can't use /ban in #ubuntu atm
[13:29] <Hobbsee> why?
[13:32] <Tm_T> bug in client or server, or both, noone knows for sure
[13:33] <Tm_T> 1526 -!- Irssi: Channel not fully synchronized yet, try again after a while
[13:33] <Pici> ahh
[13:33] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: same that Riddell had/have
[13:33] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[13:33] <Myrtti> we need a factoid for envyng
[13:33] <Tm_T> hmm, can't remember if /mode +b did work or not
[13:33] <Pici> Tm_T: /set channel_max_who_sync to something like 2000
[13:34] <Pici> Tm_T: Thats what I had to do to get it #ubuntu to work reliably in irssi
[13:34] <Myrtti> thanks pici
[13:36] <Myrtti> there was a suggestion on !envyng few days ago
[13:37] <Pici> !envyng
[13:37] <ubottu> envyng is an updated version of the unsupported !envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.
[13:38] <Myrtti> !msg
[13:38] <ubottu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[13:38] <Myrtti> !msg > Solusian
[13:38] <Myrtti> oh great, it's added
[14:26] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: :(
[14:27] <Myrtti> !envy =~ s/$/ See also !envyng/
[14:27] <ubottu> I'll remember that Myrtti
[14:28] <Myrtti> !envy
[14:28] <ubottu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver » See also !envyng
[14:29] <ikonia> Myrtti: I change the ubotu reference in envy 
[14:29] <jdong> !envyng
[14:29] <ubottu> envyng is an updated version of the unsupported !envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.
[14:29] <ikonia> Myrtti: when did it get put back
[14:30] <Myrtti> I don't think it was ever removed
[14:30] <Myrtti> !no envy is <alias> envyng
[14:30] <ubottu> I'll remember that Myrtti
[14:30] <Myrtti> !envy
[14:30] <ubottu> envyng is an updated version of the unsupported !envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.
[14:30] <Pici> Myrtti: recursive factoids?
[14:30] <Myrtti> Pici: one step at a time
[14:31] <Pici> Steps are complicated
[14:31] <ikonia> Myrtti: I think envy and envyng should be kept seperate, there is a distiction
[14:31] <Myrtti> !envyng =~ s/!envy/envy/
[14:31] <ubottu> I'll remember that Myrtti
[14:31] <ikonia> !envy, bringing up envyng info is confusing
[14:31] <ubottu> ikonia: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:32] <gnomefreak> Seeker`: what video card and drivers are you running when it was crashing?
[14:32] <Myrtti> !envyng =~ s/unsupported/*UNSUPPORTED*/
[14:32] <ubottu> I'll remember that Myrtti
[14:32] <Myrtti> !envy
[14:32] <ubottu> envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository and has community support. As an early version, its results may vary but this should be used over the unsupported envy package.
[14:32] <gnomefreak> oh crap
[14:32] <gnomefreak> support more yuck
[14:33] <Myrtti> better?
[14:33] <ikonia> better
[14:33] <ikonia> a solid middle ground
[14:33] <gnomefreak> factoid is fine its the we now support this im not liking :( i guess it removes built modules now?
[14:34] <ikonia> gnomefreak: I'm not convinced by envyng either, but thats a personal gripe, from what I gather it's a big step forward from where it was
[14:34] <ikonia> it will only get better if people use it and it gets more support
[14:34] <gnomefreak> ikonia: i hope so
[14:34] <Hobbsee> at the end of hte day, it's always crack, as it's non-free code
[14:34] <gnomefreak> maybe ill play with it later during devel cycle
[14:34] <Hobbsee> that aside, the rest of the code apparently looks fine
[14:35] <gnomefreak> rest of code being the free parts?
[14:35] <ikonia> Hobbsee: if it's included you've got to give it chance to grow or get better
[14:35] <ikonia> some of the best apps I've used started out crap, others stayed that way
[14:36] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: yeah
[14:36] <gnomefreak> ikonia: most of them for me still are
[14:36] <ikonia> yes, some of them still are, no question
[14:36] <gnomefreak> im still not conviced with fuse or ntfs-* or whatever the name
[14:36] <ikonia> very few things start of as mega though
[14:37] <Myrtti> flickrfs and sshfs are nice though ;-)
[14:37] <gnomefreak> brb reboot
[14:37] <ikonia> sshfs has come on in leaps, kvm for example also 
[14:45] <gnomefreak> sorry about that. wouldnt it make more sense to add it to multi instead of uni since the drivers cant be supported or are we supporting the drivers as well?
[14:46] <ikonia> where are the nvidia drivers, are they multi or uni
[14:47] <Hobbsee> multi
[14:47] <gnomefreak> multi
[14:47] <gnomefreak> see my point
[14:47] <ikonia> yes
[14:48] <Pici> blinkiz: How can we help you?
[14:48] <gnomefreak> what is the package name?
[14:48] <gnomefreak> envy doesnt show anything
[14:49] <ikonia> envyng
[14:49] <gnomefreak> W: Unable to locate package envyng
[14:49] <bazhang> envyng-gtk
[14:50] <bazhang> or -qt for kde
[14:50] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[14:58] <Myrtti> blinkiz: this channel has a no-idle policy. If you cannot produce a reason for your being here other than for idling purposes in the next 5 minutes, I'll remove you.
[14:58] <ubottu> hwilde called the ops in #ubuntu
[15:01] <gnomefreak> we saw thanks ubottu 
[15:05] <tonyyarusso> wgrant: gah, you're confusing me with the new nick!
[15:10] <gnomefreak> whens UDS?
[15:13] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Intrepid
[15:13] <gnomefreak> thanks
[15:14] <bazhang> question: when muting and there is no response--best to leave them muted?
[15:14] <gnomefreak> did we always have UDS on wikis?
[15:15] <Pici> !uds
[15:15] <Pici> bah
[15:15] <Myrtti> !uds
[15:15] <ubottu> The Ubuntu Developer Summit is being held May 19th to May 23rd in Prague, Czech Republic. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Intrepid for more info
[15:16] <gnomefreak> thats a bad link tonyyarusso 
[15:16] <Pici> wfm
[15:16] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[15:16] <gnomefreak> why does tonyyarusso's link not open page and Myrtti did>
[15:17] <Pici> gnomefreak: I copied tonyyarusso's url into the factoid when I edited it
[15:17] <gnomefreak> edit the link? its the exact ssame
[15:17]  * tonyyarusso reboots, Hardy's interesting
[15:17] <gnomefreak> look at them in borwser it doesnt change the link any
[15:17] <Pici> edit the factoid, it had uds-boston before I changed it
[15:17] <gnomefreak> ah
[15:46] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: Nvidia 8800GTS (Manufacturer: XFX), using the new version of the nviida driver from the repos
[15:47] <gnomefreak> thats got to be it than
[15:47] <gnomefreak> Seeker`: thank you
[15:47] <gnomefreak> everyone seeing this is 8800
[15:48] <gnomefreak> i will talk with timo or bryce in the next day or so and see what they can want to do but this may be a nvidia issue upstream since we dont change the package
[15:48] <gnomefreak> although 6200 and up have always had issues with our drivers
[15:49] <ubottu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor
[15:49] <ubottu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor
[15:49] <ubottu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor
[15:49] <ikonia> anyone else getting pm floods
[15:49] <Mez> !ops
[15:49] <ubottu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[15:49] <ubottu> Mez called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[15:49] <gnomefreak> not pm no
[15:50] <ikonia> I'll take that as a yes
[15:50] <gnomefreak> just #ubuntu
[15:50] <ikonia> I got a channel full and pm full from the same users
[15:50] <elkbuntu> from what nick
[15:50] <ikonia> -k3623:#ubuntu-
[15:50] <ikonia> oops
[15:50]  * Mez meant to !staff there
[15:50] <ikonia> k3623
[15:50] <elkbuntu> appears staff found them
[15:50] <ikonia> and t7761
[15:50] <Mez> elkbuntu, indeed ;) 
[15:51]  * Mez pets floodbot for muting them away 
[15:52] <elkbuntu> they all came from the same ip address
[15:52] <elkbuntu> so, i'm pretty certain there'll be more
[15:52] <Mez> probablu
[15:52] <Mez> probably *
[15:54] <elkbuntu> it was a wanadoo address...so well
[15:56] <ikonia> where is wanadoo based these days
[15:56] <ikonia> at one point it was massive in the uk
[15:56] <Pici> I dont know, but its a fun word to say
[15:56] <elkbuntu> ikonia, .fr is usually what i see
[15:56] <ikonia> slack frenchies
[15:56] <elkbuntu> btw, our good friend curtis is back again tonight
[15:57] <bazhang> need a factoid like !rtl for asking folks to read the links
[15:58]  * Hobbsee prefers something stronger than a factoid for that.
[15:58] <bazhang> haha
[16:03] <gnomefreak> i figure out crash and all the people i would talk to leave :(
[16:04]  * gnomefreak will show them 
[16:11] <Myrtti> !rtl
[16:11] <ubottu> Factoid rtl not found
[16:11] <Myrtti> :->
[16:11] <Myrtti> /me feels like an inspiration coming up
[16:11] <Pici> !stopbotheringmepleaseusecommonsense
[16:11] <ubottu> Pici: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[16:12] <Myrtti> !ucs
[16:12] <ubottu> Factoid ucs not found
[16:12] <Myrtti> so we need rtl AND ucs ;-)
[17:08] <ikonia> is #clububuntu allowed to be # and not ## ?
[17:09] <ikonia> I thought it had to be ## as it wasn't official ?
[17:11] <jussio1> Ok, we now have hardy packages in !info :D
[17:11] <jussio1> !info kdebase-kde4
[17:11] <ubottu> kdebase-kde4: base components from the official KDE 4 release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 12 kB, installed size 132 kB
[17:12] <jussio1> :)
[17:12] <stdin> ikonia: not sure, as it's *-ubuntu rather than #ubuntu-*
[17:12] <ikonia> stdin: surly it's still being representing an "official" channel
[17:12] <stdin> ikonia: I would assume so, but I'm not 100% sure
[17:12] <ikonia> eg: could I register #hacking-ubuntu
[17:13] <ikonia> (genuninly curious)
[17:13] <ikonia> jussio1: did you get chance to check the db updates I made ?
[17:13] <jussio1> ikonia: ummm... which ones?
[17:13] <ikonia> jussio1: I updated the whole db and set it thorugh to Myrtti 
[17:14] <Tm_T> Pici: thanks, atleast now it works with that trick :)
[17:14] <ikonia> jussio1: cleaned out some old ones, re-worded some, changed some non-relevant text any more
[17:22] <ikonia> Pici: I feel your pain, I really do
[17:25] <Pici> Also, in true Seveas fashion, ubot has configuration values hard coded
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[17:32] <ikonia> dfgas appears to be away from his keyboard, but his irc sesion appears to be running sysinfo scripts
[17:32] <ikonia> in #ubuntu
[17:32] <bazhang> mute him?
[17:34] <ikonia> your call, just thought it worth mentioning as it was a good 3 lines, listing everything on his system
[17:35] <stdin> btw, for those that are running an ubot*, I made something which may make your lives a little easier ( nalioth and LjL ) http://pastebin.com/f32960e33
[17:35] <bazhang> there is a user scrounch who does an away method every day but does not respond to !away ever what about him
[17:35] <stdin> it'll sync the factoid database with ubottu's with @sync
[17:35] <ikonia> bazhang: I've seen him do it tons also 
[17:36] <ikonia> I wanted to speak to ljl about a floodbot blacklist setup but I missed him
[17:36] <ikonia> LjL: can you ping me when your free please. 
[17:36] <ikonia> I'm not sure if the floodbot code is freely avilable 
[17:36] <ikonia> available even
[17:36] <bazhang> okay thanks ikonia
[17:36] <stdin> ikonia: it's not, the council have access to the code though
[17:37] <ikonia> danke
[17:37] <ikonia> so reaonly only a council member can update it
[17:37] <ikonia> I assume I could submit a patch or concept to it though (it would have to be rought without seeing the existing code)
[17:42] <Myrtti> jussio1: ping
[17:43] <jussio1> Myrtti: hello
[17:45] <Myrtti> *sigh* gprs
[18:13] <ikonia> why are random people offering my logs with my name in it
[18:13] <ikonia> there is a VERY familer pattern to this
[18:13] <ikonia> this is not the first time this has happened
[18:13] <Pici> ikonia: I have no idea what david is on about
[18:14] <ikonia> Pici: random people keep pushing logs wiht my name at me with "just be aware" type comments
[18:14] <ikonia> either in channels or pm
[18:14] <Pici> ikonia: With no clear intentions?
[18:14] <ikonia> none
[18:14] <Pici> Very weird
[18:14] <ikonia> there is only one person who has ever used the the logs towards me with clear intention
[18:14] <ikonia> and it follows this same pattern
[18:15] <ikonia> 2 people have quoted things at me today from another persons "pm" to me
[18:19] <ikonia> something very odd there
[18:21] <Pici> yes
[18:21] <ikonia> this is a very typical pattern that contains topic that one person has a real issue with me 
[18:25] <bazhang> this is david?
[18:25] <ikonia> yes
[18:25] <ikonia> david_-_-
[18:26] <bazhang> want me to pm him?
[18:26] <ikonia> not really
[18:26] <bazhang> okay let me know if you do
[18:26] <ikonia> I suspect I know the deal, and don't wish to provoke it futher
[18:26] <ikonia> it's just another "out of the blue" quote of something I said that I should be "aware" of 
[18:26] <ikonia> which funny enough, is from this channel
[18:26] <ikonia> as normal
[18:26] <Pici> Its very odd.
[18:27] <ikonia> Pici: it's an odd thing to do, it's not an "odd" situation though
[19:20] <ubottu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor
[19:36] <ompaul> !bootoptions
[19:36] <ubottu> For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[19:39] <ubottu> Fishscene called the ops in #ubuntu
[19:39] <Gary> curtis sounds like a nice chap
[19:40] <Pici> Someone mentioned earlier that he might be a repeat offender
[19:40] <bazhang> he seemed not to know much
[19:40] <ompaul> he is a troll in my books
[19:40] <ompaul> :-(
[19:41] <bazhang> the channel can be frustrating for new users wanting quick answers
[19:42] <Pici> No, his questions look a bit trollish.
[19:42] <bazhang> my mistake then
[19:42] <Pici> And his outburst was uncalled for regardless
[19:43] <bazhang> indeed
[19:43] <ompaul> open +1 please
[19:44] <bazhang> sparr seems difficult 
[19:44] <Pici> ompaul: People areadly looking to talk about Ibex?
[19:44] <ompaul> yeah - and I say let them ;-) 
[19:47] <Pici> arg.
[19:47] <Pici> !usage 
[19:47] <ubottu> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
[19:48] <Pici> not what I want
[19:48] <Myrtti> then what do you want, there's no link anymore to guide in the usage anyway
[19:48] <stdin> there isn't a useage factoid, as the !bot factoid had a link to the guide
[19:49] <bazhang> enough muting for me for one day
[19:49] <Myrtti> or is there
[19:49] <Pici> !bot
[19:49] <ubottu> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
[19:49] <Pici> baleh
[19:49] <stdin> ^ had, past tense ;)
[19:49] <bazhang> night all
[19:49] <Pici> Later bazhang 
[20:08] <nalioth> stdin: what does that code snippet do?
[20:09] <stdin> nalioth: grabs the ubuntu.db from the site (configured with 'configure supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.remotedb') and uses it (after renaming the old one to ubuntu.db.backup)
[20:10] <stdin> saves you having to make a script that downloads the db, you just give the bot the 'sync' command
[20:10] <Pici> I wrote a little hack somewhere so that it'll use a mysqldb instead of sqlite
[20:10] <Pici> at least for the bantracker, but it would be easy to apply it to the other plugins
[20:12] <stdin> nalioth: It's my first bit of python, but I tested it with my test bot and it works
[20:12] <stdin> I only started reading the python docs yesterday :)
[20:13] <nalioth> stdin: i appreciate it ( but i have a perfectly functional cronjob that does pretty much the same thing )  :)
[20:14] <stdin> nalioth: it's just something I made to "stretch my python muscles", I'm just shocked it actually works :p
[20:18] <nalioth> stdin: keep stretching  :)
[20:18] <nalioth> i'll file it away for the future
[20:26] <stdin> that's not good
[20:27] <Pici> hm
[20:27] <Pici> BunnyRevolution is a familiar name for some reason
[20:27] <ompaul> spinning rabbits .....
[20:35] <Gary> rabbits in a blender?
[20:35] <Gary> will it blend (tm)
[20:36] <stdin> the bot will probably die again in a minute
[20:43] <stdin> I don't think ubottu's coming back for a while, 101 packets transmitted, 7 received, 93% packet loss, time 100008ms
[20:47] <stdin> oh, it's on it's way
[20:49] <Myrtti> animal testing
[20:53] <Amaranth> no?
[20:53] <PriceChild> !test
[20:53] <ubottu> Failed.
[20:54] <Amaranth> Ok, so we did animal testing anyway. :P
[21:09] <Seeker`> Pici: Bunnyrevolution has been in here before to "complain" about me and mc44
[21:10] <Gary> Seeker`: with regards to what channel?
[21:10] <Seeker`> #sparkle-ponies
[21:10] <Gary> seriously?
[21:10] <Seeker`> and ##c-u
[21:10] <Seeker`> Gary: PM?
[21:11] <Gary> sure
[21:17] <Amaranth> !info compiz
[21:17] <ubottu> compiz: OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu6 (hardy), package size 33 kB, installed size 68 kB
[21:18] <Amaranth> gnome 65435
[21:18] <ubottu> Gnome bug 65435 in panel "some thing wrong" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65435
[21:18] <Amaranth> yay, gnome bugs
[21:40] <Myrtti> kids seem to be playing nice
[21:54] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: any luck wit hthe drivers?
[21:55] <gnomefreak> i handed it off to kernel/X guys
[21:56] <Seeker`> ah, cool
[23:26] <Myrtti> what the hell
[23:48] <Pici> ?