2008/05/30/#launchpad.txt

[00:00] <seiflotfy> the project is called mayanna
[00:01] <kiko> mwhudson, can I try importing that on lpnet? I've not done a new-style yet
[00:03] <mwhudson> kiko: yeah, let's try it!
[00:03] <kiko> mwhudson, where do I start?
[00:03] <kiko> mwhudson, +source I guess?
[00:03] <mwhudson> kiko: right
[00:03] <mwhudson> kiko: there's a button there (for the likes of you and me) that says 'convert to new style'
[00:04] <kiko> converted
[00:04] <kiko> wtf
[00:04] <kiko> seiflotfy, Authentication realm: <https://mayanna.googlecode.com:443> Google Code Subversion Repository
[00:04] <mwhudson> seiflotfy: unfortunately, it's a google code import :/
[00:04] <kiko> seiflotfy, it requires a password?
[00:04] <mwhudson> kiko: s/https/http/ i think
[00:05] <seiflotfy> hmmmmmmmmmm
[00:05] <seiflotfy> yep
[00:05] <mwhudson> kiko: which you do on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/mayanna/trunk/+edit-import now
[00:05] <seiflotfy> to upload to it
[00:06] <kiko> seiflotfy, he means to say that google code is flakyyy
[00:06] <kiko> mwhudson, I fucked it up
[00:06] <kiko> mwhudson, I created a new-style with https, then went back, deleted it, created a new one with http and now I'm oopsin
[00:06] <kiko> https://devpad.canonical.com/~matsubara/oops.cgi/OOPS-880EA180
[00:06] <kiko> BranchCreationException: A branch with the name "trunk" already exists for vcs-imports in mayanna. 
[00:07] <kiko> I guess I can rename the original branch eh?
[00:07] <mwhudson> how did you delete it?
[00:07] <kiko> or better yet
[00:07] <kiko> NUKE it
[00:07] <mwhudson> but yeah "oops"
[00:07] <kiko> mwhudson, delete import
[00:07] <kiko> which is a confusing button title if there ever was one
[00:07] <mwhudson> kiko: oh, ok, after hitting the convert to new style button
[00:07] <mwhudson> kiko: DO NOT use the +source page again
[00:07] <kiko> yeah well
[00:08] <kiko> now I did already :-(
[00:08] <mwhudson> kiko: sorry, i know this is a bit confusing
[00:08] <kiko>     *
[00:08] <kiko> RetryPsycopgIntegrityError: ERROR: update or delete on table "codeimport" violates foreign key constraint "productseriescodeimport_codeimport_fkey" on table "productseriescodeimport" DETAIL: Key (id)=(2) is still referenced from table "productseriescodeimport". DELETE FROM CodeImport WHERE id = 2 
[00:08] <kiko> https://devpad.canonical.com/~matsubara/oops.cgi/OOPS-880ED140
[00:08] <mwhudson> time for some head-table interaction
[00:08]  * kiko tries to pound some robustness into this system
[00:08] <seiflotfy> kiko
[00:08] <seiflotfy> the repository is http://mayanna.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
[00:09] <kiko> seiflotfy, yes, it's all my fault
[00:09] <kiko> mwhudson, can I somehow delete this new-style import?
[00:09] <seiflotfy> so is it accesible
[00:09] <mwhudson> kiko: sigh, probably not
[00:09] <seiflotfy> ?
[00:09]  * kiko renames
[00:09] <kiko> mwhudson, I'm renaming the branch then
[00:10] <kiko> seiflotfy, yeah, via http://
[00:10] <mwhudson> kiko: yeah, i'll hassle an osa into cleaning up the database
[00:10] <kiko> mwhudson, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/mayanna/trunk-fucked ftw
[00:10] <mwhudson> kiko: one second
[00:10] <kiko> hmmm
[00:10] <seiflotfy> wtf?
[00:10] <seiflotfy> lol
[00:10] <kiko> seiflotfy, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
[00:11] <mwhudson> seiflotfy: congratulations, you're helping us debug a new system :)
[00:11] <seiflotfy> lol
[00:11] <seiflotfy> my pleasure
[00:11] <seiflotfy> i dont mind
[00:11] <seiflotfy> :)
[00:11] <seiflotfy> ok
[00:11] <mwhudson> kiko: i think things will work better if we try to fix up the new style import
[00:11] <seiflotfy>  should i try ot edit the trunk again
[00:11] <seiflotfy> or should i not touc hanything 
[00:11] <kiko> seiflotfy, don't worry, I'll sort it out with mwhudson 
[00:11] <mwhudson> kiko: not fix the details of the productseries and reconvert
[00:12] <mwhudson> kiko: just based on details of how the system works
[00:12] <kiko> seiflotfy, what's annoying is that it's likely it will fail, because it's google code :)
[00:12] <kiko> mwhudson, okay, sure.
[00:13] <kiko> mwhudson, so what next? :)
[00:13] <seiflotfy> well its odd
[00:13] <seiflotfy> because via browser if i go
[00:13] <seiflotfy> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/mayanna/trunk/+edit-import
[00:13] <seiflotfy> ups i mean
[00:13] <seiflotfy> http://mayanna.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/
[00:13] <seiflotfy> its open
[00:14] <mwhudson> kiko: i renamed the branch back
[00:14] <seiflotfy> did any1 here try mayanna
[00:14] <kiko> seiflotfy, the problem is more that google code drops connections kinda frequently
[00:14] <kiko> mwhudson, ah, that's what's 404ing ;)
[00:14] <mwhudson> kiko: and edited the details on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/mayanna/trunk/+edit-import and clicked approve
[00:14] <kiko> I saw that
[00:14] <mwhudson> kiko: and that's it, the import should start within a minute
[00:14] <kiko> mwhudson, how do I see its log?
[00:15] <mwhudson> kiko: you can't see it as it runs yet :/
[00:15] <kiko> mwhudson, where's buildbot, the client certificate hack, Reload Config, etc?!!
[00:15] <mwhudson> kiko: i now!!!
[00:15] <kiko> this is madness
[00:15] <kiko> one single system to manage branches AND imports
[00:15] <kiko> who could have designed such a thing!!! only the peverse bristolian minds
[00:16] <kiko> with help from perverse minds too
[00:16] <kiko> mwhudson, I got the email too
[00:16] <kiko> neat
[00:17] <kiko> mwhudson, can you start out with a new-style import, or does it always need to be converted for now?
[00:18] <mwhudson> kiko: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new
[00:18] <mwhudson> embarrassingly, i'm not really sure who can see that page
[00:18] <mwhudson> (probably every one)
[00:18] <kiko> I can at least
[00:19] <mwhudson> well want to cherry pick a config change that takes the import your project button on the code homepage to that page
[00:19] <mwhudson> when we've switched everything over
[00:19] <mwhudson> man i can't type today
[00:21] <kiko> mwhudson, why wait to switch everything over?
[00:21] <mwhudson> kiko: you can sort of see progress on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+machines
[00:21] <mwhudson> kiko: so we can test that it works at all first?
[00:21] <kiko> heh
[00:21] <kiko> mwhudson, is this the first one we try? :)
[00:21] <mwhudson> we're doing that now
[00:22] <mwhudson> kiko: it's the first new import
[00:22] <mwhudson> kiko: i converted pydoctor, an old import i don't care about, earlier
[00:22] <mwhudson> kiko: new-style imports are currently throttled to only run two at a time per machine
[00:23] <mwhudson> so we shouldn't do mass conversions yet
[00:23] <LaserJock> mwhudson, kiko: I can see https://code.edge.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new for what it's worth
[00:23] <mwhudson> LaserJock: oh, cool :)
[00:23] <kiko> mwhudson, IC
[00:26] <mwhudson> except haha, i bet they're not actually throttled
[00:26] <mwhudson> because i probably edited the wrong config file :(
[00:33] <LaserJock> so I guess I'll try this again cause I really would like to get the imported, but are vcsimports retried after they fail?
[00:33] <LaserJock> and if so how long are they retried until you just give up
[00:34] <mwhudson> LaserJock: it depends on the nature of the failure
[00:34] <LaserJock> I swear gchemutils has to be able to work, somehow :-)
[00:34] <mwhudson> LaserJock: and they have to be manually retried
[00:34] <LaserJock> I had problems the other day with git-cvsimport, but when I tried a fresh import it worked
[00:34] <mwhudson> i can
[00:34] <LaserJock> I wonder if that kind of thing would help
[00:35] <mwhudson> 't remember the problem with gchemutils off hand
[00:35] <mwhudson> was it the file-created-by-merge thing?
[00:36] <LaserJock> I can't remember either, and I don't have access, that I know of, to see
[00:36] <LaserJock> is it possible to give the importer a branch to keep updated?
[00:36] <mwhudson> mmm
[00:37] <mwhudson> not easily, that's for sure
[00:37] <LaserJock> I wondered if I could manually get it up to speed (doing whatever I could), then give it over to LP to mirror
[00:38] <LaserJock> the breakage is now 44 weeks old and that history becomes increasingly irrelevant
[00:38] <LaserJock> which is a real bummer with DVCSs in general. One commit years ago can break the whole thing
[00:39] <mwhudson> yeah
[00:39] <mwhudson> oh right
[00:40] <mwhudson> LaserJock: this is this bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-cscvs/+bug/120977
[00:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 120977 in launchpad-cscvs "cscvs breaks when a cvs merge creates a file" [High,Confirmed] 
[00:40] <mwhudson> LaserJock: cscvs is open source, feel like fixing it? :)
[00:41] <mwhudson> we should probably schedule some time to work on this bug, but well...
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[00:41] <LaserJock> mwhudson: hehe, if I knew anything about VCSs I would
[00:45] <LaserJock> mwhudson: heh, the cscvs README could probably use some updating, it's from 2004 and has tla instructions
[00:45] <mwhudson> LaserJock: oh man
[00:46] <mwhudson> LaserJock: it may also help your future to know that cscvs is really written in smalltalk
[00:46] <mwhudson> it just looks like python
[00:46] <LaserJock> really?
[00:46] <mwhudson> well
[00:47] <mwhudson> i am being a bit elliptic i guess
[00:47] <mwhudson> but the source definitely has a smalltalk-ish edge to it
[00:47] <mwhudson> and it makes a lot more sense when you know this
[00:48] <LaserJock> k, gotcha
[00:49] <LaserJock> hmm, last commit was 2007-12-11, I'm guessing people must be moving on from CVS
[00:49] <LaserJock> bzr-svn seems quite active
[00:50] <mwhudson> yeah, we'll probably use bzr-svn for svn imports at some point
[00:51] <mwhudson> oh man, so many things to do
[00:51] <LaserJock> gotta run, perhaps one day I'll work up to taking a crack at it
[00:51] <LaserJock> I'm sub'd to that bug anyway, so if in the mean time somebody fixes it I'd own them a drink ;-)
[00:52] <mwhudson> heh heh
[01:08] <mwhudson> seiflotfy: yay cool, your branch imported! https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/mayanna/trunk
[03:02] <RAOF> Are Intrepid PPAs supposed to work at the moment?  I uploaded a couple of packages (libdrm, nouveau), and they've appeared on the frontpage as 'built', but there are no binaries and the source packages haven't been queued to build.   https://launchpad.net/~raof+archive
[03:14] <kiko> RAOF, no, not yet. there are no chroots yet.
[03:15] <RAOF> Well, that's annoying.  How am I supposed to build nouveau for my Intrepid laptop, then :P
[03:16] <kiko> heh
[03:16] <kiko> poke people to get them set up!
[03:19]  * RAOF pokes indescriminately
[03:21] <jml> hello what huh
[03:21] <jml> RAOF: discriminate better!
[03:22] <RAOF> jml: My policy is to provoke a chain-poke-reaction until the appropriate pokee is poked.
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[04:37] <mwhudson> statik: hi :)
[08:27] <mdke> is there a page which lists all the mailing lists currently enabled?
[08:41] <jamesh> mdke: not a public one
[08:41] <jamesh> (just the admin interface
[08:41] <mdke> jamesh: i think I might have admin rights, can you tell me the address? I only have the one for pending applications
[08:42] <jamesh> you don't have admin rights
[08:42] <mdke> I have rights to the pending applications ones just for the purposes of looking at Ubuntu related applications
[08:43] <mdke> ah, ok
[08:43] <jamesh> I don't see you on https://edge.launchpad.net/~admins/+members
[08:43] <mdke> jamesh: no, I'm certainly not a launchpad admin ;) 
[08:44] <mdke> I'm interested in finding out what Ubuntu related lists exist already
[08:44] <jamesh> was there something in particular that you were looking for?
[08:44] <jamesh> oh
[08:45] <jamesh> It'd definitely be useful to have some way of finding lists
[08:46] <mdke> apart from anything else, it's necessary to consider existing applications
[08:46] <mdke> ah i see, the rights I have arise out of membership to the mailing-list-experts group
[08:47] <jamesh> ah.  mailing-list-experts probably gives you access
[08:47] <jamesh> try https://edge.launchpad.net/+mailinglists
[08:47] <mdke> that's the one that shows me pending applications
[08:48] <jamesh> if that one doesn't give you the info you want, then I don't know what will
[08:48] <jamesh> maybe wait til barry wakes up
[08:49] <mdke> jamesh: ok, thanks for the help. I'll mail him or file a bug a bit later I guess
[09:00] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[09:27] <Hobbsee> *evening*, mpt 
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[11:33] <thekorn> hi, this new 'vote and comment on branches' feature is really cool, thanks!
[11:34] <thekorn> if you couls add such functionality for patches too, it would be awesome :)
[12:22] <Rorschach> hi does anyone know if I can change my launchpad account-name? If I change it under change details I get no error but nothin g happens? is this a launchpad bug?
[12:34] <RicardoPerez> Please: is there any Launchpad admin here who could answer me a question about @ubuntu.com email forwarding? Thanks in advance.
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[14:27] <brandon_rhodes> Does launchpad provide anything like a blog per project?
[14:29] <jamesh> brandon_rhodes: you can create announcements, which are also published as a feed
[14:29] <jamesh> not quite the same as a blog, but might suit your needs
[14:30] <brandon_rhodes> jamesh: thanks!  where would I find that under the interface? I haven't stumbled across it yet...
[14:30] <jamesh> on the project page, there is a "Make announcement" link in t he actions menu on the left
[14:31] <jamesh> (assuming you own the project)
[14:34] <brandon_rhodes> Ah, thanks, I see it now. :-) I was expecting a "blog" or "announcements" tab, but I see it now.  Yes, that's exactly what I was looking for - just a way to post a news feed about new releases, etcetera, that people can subscribe to.
[14:38] <jamesh> brandon_rhodes: if you have some other site for your project, the feed should make it relatively easy to integrate the announcements there
[14:55] <james_w> Hi all, do merge proposals generate a notification email?
[15:00] <kiko> james_w, I believe they do
[15:00] <kiko> but I would need to ask thumper to be sure
[15:02] <james_w> I assume that they do, but I wonder who gets them, I have never received one as part of ~bzr even when branches are proposed for merging in to ~bzr/something
[15:14] <thekorn> james_w, subscribers to the target branch seems to get a notification email
[15:15] <james_w> ah, ok. I would have assumed the owner was an implicit subscriber.
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[15:46] <KaZeR> hey guys. there's a little thing with the import of our svn. last commit i made was 1085, but on launchad it's seen as 905. can this be fixed?
[15:53] <kiko> KaZeR, is the import running or is it stopped?
[16:04] <KaZeR> it says it's online
[16:04] <KaZeR> last run : success, 4h ago
[16:05] <KaZeR> notice that we were using cvs until 2 months ago. but svn says it's rev 1085
[16:10] <KaZeR> also i have questions about the translation tool.
[16:10] <KaZeR> at first, i manually uploaded the .po files. now, will they get auto-updated with the svn sync?
[16:14] <mok0> How can I open a sub-task specifically to be closed for ii?
[16:15] <james_w> mok0: it already has a task for hardy?
[16:15] <mok0> no, just on the source package
[16:15] <mok0> bug 114707
[16:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 114707 in matplotlib "matplotlib pdf generation fails with tex text" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114707
[16:16] <james_w> the "Nominate for release" link on the right should do it, but if it's just to be fixed in intrepid there is no need.
[16:16] <mok0> james_w: I would like to keep the bug open for hardy etc
[16:17] <james_w> mok0: just add a task for the releases you are going to do an SRU for
[16:17] <mok0> james_w: ... and that's what I can't figure out how to do
[16:18] <james_w> ah, on the left sorry, "Nominate for release"
[16:18] <mok0> Ha! Thanks james_	
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[17:29] <mok0> What to do about a bug where a fix is given, but does not require any patching of the software? The problem is solved for the reporter, but it seems wrong to set the bug to "invalid" or "won't fix".
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[17:47] <BadChoice> hy!
[17:47] <BadChoice> I'm having trouble with bzr
[17:48] <BadChoice> can  you help me?
[17:48] <BadChoice> what is the command I have to use to push with ssh?
[17:48] <andrea-bs> BadChoice: bzr push bzr+ssh://...
[17:49] <BadChoice> after ssh://...
[17:49] <BadChoice> goes my username and my project?
[17:49] <kiko-fud> BadChoice, it depends. what are you pushing to?
[17:49] <andrea-bs> BadChoice: you can find the full address in the branch page
[17:49] <BadChoice> to a branch named main
[17:50] <BadChoice> bzr push lp:~guitarboy000/gloobus/main
[17:50] <BadChoice> says this
[17:50] <BadChoice> but it gives me an mkdir error
[17:50] <BadChoice> that it can't make dirs throught http
[17:50] <kiko-fud> BadChoice, bzr launchpad-login
[17:50] <kiko-fud> abentley, are we gonna fix that error message btw? :)
[17:51] <BadChoice> No Launchpad user ID configured.
[17:51] <BadChoice> a well
[17:51] <BadChoice>  bzr launchpad-login guitarboy000
[17:52] <BadChoice> wou
[17:52] <BadChoice> I think it worked now
[17:53] <BadChoice> mm
[17:53] <BadChoice> but in the launchpad page still says "This branch has not been pushed to yet."
[17:55] <BadChoice> ok 
[17:55] <BadChoice> it takes a while!
[17:55] <BadChoice> it worked pretty well! 
[17:55] <BadChoice> Thank you!
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[18:22] <LaserJock> is there a reason why only the advanced +filebug page has the cool Ubuntu bug filing instructions?
[18:23] <LaserJock> I would think it would be the non-advanced users that would need them more
[18:43] <bobbo> I hit control+c by accident when pushing a bzr branch to launchpad and now get an error when trying to push again: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15837/. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?
[18:44] <beuno> bobbo, bzr break-lock lp:project
[18:44] <beuno> bzr break-lock  bzr+ssh://[email protected]/~ubuland/ubuland/devel/
[18:44] <beuno> to be more precise
[18:45] <beuno> you may have to run that twice
[18:46] <bobbo> beuno: thats fixed it, thanks alot :)
[18:47] <beuno> bobbo, np. The next version of bzr (1.6) will report an error with more information on how to fix this
[18:47] <bobbo> beuno: good news :)
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[19:14] <fta> RAOF, did you manage to poke someone for PPA/intrepid ?
[19:19] <KaZeR> i have questions about the translation tool.
[19:19] <KaZeR> at first, i manually uploaded the .po files. now, will they get auto-updated with the svn sync?
[19:24] <kirkland> it would be really nice if the "Register a Blueprint" button were on your own "Blueprints" page ;-)
[19:31] <matsubara> kirkland: bug 120582
[19:31] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 120582 in blueprint "Register a Blueprint button should appear on /~team-name" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120582
[19:31] <kirkland> matsubara: rock on, thanks.
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[20:02] <abentley> kiko: There was certainly discussion of fixing that, and I thought it had been done.
[20:11] <kiko> cool
[20:11] <kiko> LaserJock, both pages have them. it's just not presented before you search.
[20:12] <LaserJock> kiko: ahhh
[20:12] <LaserJock> great
[20:28] <mok0> LaserJock: You're back!
[20:29] <LaserJock> not exactly
[20:29] <LaserJock> just trying to finish up leaving
[20:30] <mok0> heh
[21:40] <kiko> abentley, I think that was https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/229434 :-/
[21:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 229434 in launchpad-bazaar "Branch merge proposal emails do not go to the branch owner" [Medium,Triaged] 
[21:41] <abentley> kiko: Sorry, what was the question?
[21:41] <abentley> There was a fix done, but it turned out to be broken.
[21:41] <abentley> Then SteveA vetoed the whole approach.
[21:49] <swegner> Hi, I'm looking to host a new project on Launchpad.  I'm pretty excited about using the bzr source control and bug reports, but I'm kinda stuck in that there doesn't seem to be any general webpage hosting?  Is there some resource for projects that need a Wiki for user documentation or blueprints?
[22:00] <statik> swegner, not yet, we want to add wiki pages in the future
[22:01] <statik> swegner, you could set up a free wiki at wik.is and then point from your blueprints to that
[22:02]  * statik really wants wikis built into launchpad
[22:02] <LaserJock> yeah, I think that's kind of the last missing piece
[22:03] <swegner> I'd like to avoid registered a sourceforge project as well, but I think it would be worth having the webspace
[22:04] <swegner> do you think wikis are coming soon?   is it worth holding out for
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[22:15] <kiko> swegner, not in the next 2 months, unfortunately. 
[22:15] <kiko> swegner, but why not use wik.is instead of sf.net?
[22:32] <swegner> kiko: I've never heard of it... is it comparable/better?
[22:34] <kiko> swegner, it's just for wikihosting. I prefer it to all the bells-n-whistles
[22:35] <swegner> kiko: this does look good.  I think all I probably need for the project is a simple wiki.  this would probably do the trick-- thanks
[22:56] <sistpoty> hi, I have a very stupid question: how can I join the ubuntu-universe-sponsors team? (I didn't find a link in the actions field on https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-sponsors)
[22:57] <LaserJock> sistpoty: you need to ask a team admin to add you
[22:57] <LaserJock> it's a Restricted LP team
[22:57] <sistpoty> LaserJock: ah, so a restricted team doesn't have the option to request joining via the ui?
[22:57] <LaserJock> sistpoty: nope
[22:57] <sistpoty> thanks LaserJock
[22:58] <sistpoty> oh, since you're around LaserJock... how should we proceed with motu-sru now? (-> #ubuntu-motu please ;))
[23:19] <bdmurray> any bugs team people around?
[23:56] <kiko> bdmurray, sure. :)
[23:58] <bdmurray> I got an e-mail and I'm not sure if it is expected behavior.  I got a "NEW" you've been subscribed message for a bug I reported because a team I'm a member of was subscribed.