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[06:18] <philipballew> how can i launch an application file as root? its just the whole app in 1 file
[06:20] <holstein> philipballew: what are you trying to launch?
[06:20] <holstein> gotta be careful running apps as root
[06:21] <philipballew> an executable (application/x-executable) type file. its not a deb.
[06:21] <philipballew> its a manager for rockbox
[06:21] <holstein> sudo /path/to/manager
[06:23] <Unit193> Shouldn't he be using !gksudo ?
[06:24] <holstein> depends
[06:24] <holstein> is is a graphical application?
[06:24] <holstein> so far, its a non-deb executable
[06:25] <philipballew> its a graphical app
[06:25] <holstein> gksudo is not a bad idea then
[06:25] <Unit193> Rockbox is linux firmware for MP3 players
[06:26] <philipballew> this is the comand i have then gksudo /home/philip/.RockboxUtility-v1.2.10-64bit/RockboxUtility
[06:26] <holstein> yeah, i have it on my old archos jukebox 20
[06:26] <philipballew> rockbox is the shiz-niz compared to default apple firmware
[06:27] * holstein wouldnt know
[06:27] <holstein> im lucky enough to have avoided any iPurchases
[06:27] <bioterror> buy expensive iPod, hack it with rockbox
[06:27] <philipballew> haha. someone gave it to me.
[06:27] <bioterror> why not just purchase sanamp sansa clip or something like that?
[06:27] <bioterror> okay, then ;)
[06:28] <bioterror> I approve your answer!
[06:28] <holstein> i really like my old archos, but i havent used it since the andriod phone
[06:28] <philipballew> i see no reason to run stock firmware for me
[06:28] <holstein> used to have to sync podcasts with gpodder (which worked great)
[06:29] <holstein> philipballew: i'll have to break it ouf and try this utility :)
[06:30] <philipballew> http://www.rockbox.org/
[06:30] <philipballew> im not sure if its linux bassed. but its gnu
[06:30] <holstein> philipballew: is the utility just to transfer the firmware?
[06:30] <holstein> its drag and drop on the archos
[06:31] <philipballew> it does that. but also can manage it to
[06:31] <philipballew> you can manually do it to
[06:31] <philipballew> they have a irx
[06:31] <philipballew> irc
[06:31] <philipballew> #rockbox
[06:31] <holstein> i thought it was great... really added functionality to that old hardware
[06:32] <philipballew> i agree. my ipod's 5 years old and runs great
[06:35] <[styx]> hey krtek
[06:35] <[styx]> *captainkrtek
[06:36] <Captainkrtek> hey [styx]
[06:36] <Captainkrtek> how are you?
[06:36] <[styx]> good you?
[06:36] <Captainkrtek> very good
[06:36] <Captainkrtek> thanks :)
[06:36] <[styx]> start summerschool tommorow
[06:36] <Captainkrtek> fun
[06:36] <[styx]> lol
[06:36] <[styx]> math and science
[06:37] * [styx] seems dumb
[06:37] <[styx]> but isnt
[06:37] <[styx]> lol
[06:37] <[styx]> im taking honors social studies and english
[06:37] <Captainkrtek> nice
[06:37] <[styx]> 1. 800 page book and 1.300 page book
[06:37] <Captainkrtek> I did last year
[06:38] <Captainkrtek> err
[06:38] <Captainkrtek> 2 years ago
[06:38] <[styx]> sherlock homes and catcher in the rye
[06:38] <[styx]> sooooo excited :(
[06:38] <Captainkrtek> heh
[06:38] <Captainkrtek> fun stuff
[06:38] <Captainkrtek> what grade you in?
[06:38] <Captainkrtek> hi mysteriousdarren
[06:39] <[styx]> im going to be freshman next day
[06:39] <[styx]> *year
[06:39] <Captainkrtek> gotcha
[06:39] <[styx]> fall
[06:39] <[styx]> what ever i call it
[06:39] <mysteriousdarren> hello
[06:39] <mysteriousdarren> college?
[06:40] <[styx]> highschool
[06:40] <Captainkrtek> I'm a high school Junior, but do work at MIT
[06:41] <[styx]> damn
[06:41] <[styx]> like that other kid
[06:41] <[styx]> on rootzwiki
[06:41] <Captainkrtek> hehe
[06:41] <Captainkrtek> that kid on rootzwiki
[06:41] <Captainkrtek> is me
[06:42] <[styx]> i thought there was someone else?
[06:42] <[styx]> hmm
[06:42] <[styx]> that was 15
[06:42] <Captainkrtek> im 16
[06:42] <Captainkrtek> http://rootzwiki.com/styx.html
[06:42] <Captainkrtek> ^ for you [styx]
[06:42] <Captainkrtek> :P
[06:43] <[styx]> yaay!
[06:43] <Captainkrtek> meh ill leave it there
[06:43] <[styx]> howd you get so smart
[06:43] <[styx]> lol
[06:43] <Captainkrtek> hahahah
[06:43] <Captainkrtek> learning, reading, breaking things then fixing them
[06:43] <[styx]> http://androidforums.com/google-tv/201827-sony-google-tv-hack.html
[06:43] <[styx]> this you?
[06:43] <Captainkrtek> ahh no
[06:43] <Captainkrtek> that's my good friend though
[06:43] <[styx]> thats the kid im talking about
[06:44] <Captainkrtek> yeah
[06:44] <Captainkrtek> he is 15
[06:44] <[styx]> lol
[06:44] <Captainkrtek> we're working on the same project at MIT
[06:44] <[styx]> so real life friends?
[06:44] <Captainkrtek> actually no
[06:44] <Captainkrtek> he lives in Cambridge MA
[06:44] <[styx]> ah
[06:44] <Captainkrtek> I live in Seattle WA
[06:44] <[styx]> well im realizing im fucking behind
[06:44] <Captainkrtek> hahaha
[06:44] <[styx]> i need to get off my lazy ass
[06:45] <[styx]> and figure shit out
[06:45] <Captainkrtek> meh ive just had opportunities
[06:45] <Captainkrtek> working hard though
[06:45] <[styx]> yeah
[06:45] <[styx]> im lazy
[06:45] <[styx]> big flaw
[06:45] <Captainkrtek> meh
[06:45] <Captainkrtek> im doing 0 right now
[06:45] <[styx]> lol
[06:45] <[styx]> i remember you from a long time ago
[06:45] <Captainkrtek> aye
[06:45] <[styx]> andirc #eris
[06:45] <Captainkrtek> yup
[06:46] <Captainkrtek> I started andirc with jcase and thefuzz4
[06:46] <Captainkrtek> that was 2 years ago
[06:46] <[styx]> yeah
[06:46] <[styx]> i joined the community like 1 year ago
[06:46] <[styx]> started in a shoutbox
[06:46] <[styx]> then moved to irc
[06:46] <Captainkrtek> gotcha
[06:46] <Captainkrtek> im mostly on twitter, forums, and via email with people
[06:47] <[styx]> yeah
[06:47] <[styx]> i feel dumb talking to people on twitter
[06:47] <Captainkrtek> heh
[06:47] <[styx]> feel like there like who the fuck is this
[06:47] <[styx]> forums seem slow
[06:47] <Captainkrtek> twitter is where I vent
[06:47] <[styx]> but trying to get into rootx wiki
[06:47] <Captainkrtek> eh we wont bite
[06:48] <[styx]> lol
[06:48] <[styx]> fuck yeah 19 spam bots
[06:48] <[styx]> follow me
[06:48] <Captainkrtek> lol
[06:48] <Captainkrtek> what's your twitter
[06:49] <[styx]> #styx650
[06:49] <[styx]> @
[06:50] <Captainkrtek> done
[06:50] <[styx]> lol
[06:50] <[styx]> YAY
[06:50] <[styx]> thanks lol
[06:51] <Captainkrtek> np
[06:51] <[styx]> hmmm
[06:51] <Captainkrtek> so what are your interests?
[06:51] <Captainkrtek> aside from school
[06:51] <Captainkrtek> like hobbies, etc?
[06:51] <[styx]> ill add andirc to my auto connect
[06:52] <[styx]> well android
[06:52] <[styx]> hmm
[06:52] <[styx]> friends
[06:52] <[styx]> snowboarding
[06:52] <[styx]> how bout you?
[06:52] <[styx]> oh and minecraft
[06:52] <[styx]> XD
[06:52] <Captainkrtek> seattleadmin.net <-- interests :P
[06:54] <[styx]> very offical
[06:54] <Captainkrtek> resume
[06:54] <Captainkrtek> wordpress
[06:54] <[styx]> hmm
[06:55] <[styx]> where did you leard languages?
[06:55] <[styx]> books?
[06:55] <Captainkrtek> books, online mostly
[06:55] <[styx]> ah
[06:56] <[styx]> im looking to take classes and read books
[06:56] <[styx]> was gunna take one at stanford
[06:56] <[styx]> pretty expensive though
[06:57] <Captainkrtek> yea
[06:57] <Captainkrtek> what language?
[06:57] <Captainkrtek> see this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333867
[06:59] <[styx]> well prolly java
[06:59] <[styx]> to start
[07:00] <[styx]> thanks
[07:00] <Captainkrtek> np
[07:00] <[styx]> thread looks helpful
[07:00] <[styx]> reading now
[07:02] <Captainkrtek> np
[07:06] <[styx]> python seems interesting
[07:11] <Captainkrtek> yeah
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[07:58] <guest1> hello everyone
[07:59] <guest1> can anyone help me
[08:00] <bioterror> !ask | guest1
[08:00] <ubot2> guest1: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[08:02] <guest1> i am compiling a c program on my windows drive using gcc program.c and it produces a.out executable and on executing it by writing ./a.out in terminal it shows ./a.out:permission denied
[08:23] <Captainkrtek> guest1, chmod +x a.out
[08:24] <Captainkrtek> guest1, then ./a.out
[08:25] <guest1> i tried but it's not working
[08:27] <guest1> i wrote
[08:27] <guest1> chmod a+x ./a.out
[08:27] <guest1> but again on executing it gives permission denied error
[08:28] <guest1> even with sudo su and sudoer login it is not executing
[08:28] <guest1> plz help
[08:29] <bioterror> sounds weird
[08:29] <bioterror> been so long time since I've last time compiled some random code myself ;)
[08:31] <guest1> i came across something about ntfs file being mounted as noexec mode. can anybody tell me how to edit the way it is mounted.
[08:31] <bioterror> why you have to compile that on your ntfs partition?
[08:32] <guest1> because earlier i had only windows and all my programs are there in ntfs drive and i sometimes also access them while i work on windows
[08:34] <guest1> bioterror, have you tried running any executable on ntfs drive?
[08:34] <bioterror> nope
[08:34] <bioterror> I just browse some pics and documents
[08:34] <guest1> okay
[08:40] <santak> i am compiling a c program on my windows drive using gcc program.c and it produces a.out executable and on executing it by writing ./a.out in terminal it shows ./a.out:permission denied
[09:06] <th^^> you can't give executable rights on ntfs volumes afaik
[09:07] <th^^> or, set permissions at all
[09:07] <th^^> or owners
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[15:13] <consti1> hi! I would like to ask you if anyone knows how to instal the last adobe flash on the 9.04 ubuntu version, it seems like it doesn't want to do the plugin update...
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/restricted/source/Sources 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/universe/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/universe/source/Sources 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/multiverse/source/Sources 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found
[15:13] <consti1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/restricted/source/Sources 404 Not Found
[15:14] <charlie-tca> consti1: Ubuntu 9.04 is no longer supported
[15:14] <charlie-tca> it will not update, because there are no updates available anymore
[15:14] <consti1> ohh, so what can i do?
[15:14] <charlie-tca> Install a supported version
[15:14] <charlie-tca> !supported
[15:14] <ubot2> Factoid 'supported' not found
[15:15] <charlie-tca> !ubuntu
[15:15] <ubot2> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[15:15] <consti1> las ubuntu doesn't work on my computer
[15:15] <charlie-tca> anyway, those would be Ubuntu 10.04, 10.10, 11.04
[15:15] <consti1> thanks anyway
[15:15] <consti1> last
[15:15] <charlie-tca> You could try Lubuntu
[15:15] <charlie-tca> It is designed for older computers
[15:15] <consti1> hm...ok
[15:15] <charlie-tca> !lubuntu
[15:15] <ubot2> lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.
[15:16] <consti1> thanks a lot
[15:16] <charlie-tca> yw
[15:25] <consti1> one more question, can i instal lubuntu from ubuntu without having to copy everything out of the computer and back in again?
[15:27] <charlie-tca> yes, you can install it by opening a terminal and typing
[15:27] <charlie-tca> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[15:27] <charlie-tca> and hitting enter
[15:32] <consti1> hihi thanx
[16:05] <consti1> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop didn't work, am I missing something?
[16:06] <holstein> consti1: how did it 'not work' ?
[16:07] <consti1> it says Couldn't find package lubuntu-desktop
[16:08] <holstein> consti1: try sudo apt-cache search lubuntu
[16:09] <holstein> maybe you have a typo ??
[16:09] <holstein> you can always just istall LXDE
[16:09] <holstein> sudo apt-get install lxde
[16:09] <holstein> choose the LXDE session from the login screen
[16:10] <consti1> what's a typo?
[16:10] <holstein> a mistake while typing
[16:11] <consti1> ah no, i copy pasted, i'll try again
[16:11] <holstein> consti1: search for it first
[16:12] <holstein> consti1: actually, run this command first
[16:12] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[16:12] <holstein> then, sudo apt-cache search lubuntu-desktop
[16:13] <consti1> ok it shows on last : E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:13] <holstein> you'll need to troubleshoot that error before you can install anything
[16:14] <consti1> how do i do that?
[16:14] <consti1> sorry i'm really just a begginer...
[16:15] <consti1> beginner
[16:15] <holstein> consti1: the question is, 'how did you do that?'
[16:15] <holstein> you've broken your sources
[16:15] <holstein> and thats fine... this is linux... everything is always fixable
[16:15] <holstein> thats how you learn
[16:16] <holstein> consti1: do you remember adding any sources?
[16:16] <holstein> and PPA's?
[16:17] <consti1> don't know what u're talking about really...
[16:17] <consti1> my computer doesn't like linux that's for sure...
[16:18] <holstein> consti1: you have somehow changed the sources, and added something that is not working
[16:18] <consti1> maybe
[16:18] <consti1> but i don't know exactly how
[16:18] <holstein> maybe, since you say your computer doesnt 'like' linux, you've copied and pasted some commands you dont understand
[16:18] <consti1> i would have done that
[16:18] <holstein> and that has broken things
[16:18] <holstein> maybe to try and fix driver issues
[16:19] <holstein> first thing, you're computer doesnt care what OS you run
[16:19] <holstein> im not sure what you are used to running, but linux is just different
[16:19] <holstein> we can help you sort out hardware support :)
[16:20] <consti1> the only thing i tried to repair was the adobe flash plugin but that apparently in not supported on ubuntu 9.04 and that's why I'm changing to Lubuntu
[16:20] <consti1> i suppose that's the only way to keep using this computer n linux
[16:20] <geirha> That explains why there's no lubuntu-desktop package
[16:21] <geirha> Ubuntu 9.04 is no longer supported, and the lubuntu-desktop came in a later release.
[16:21] <consti1> ah ok
[16:21] <holstein> actually, that explains a lot ;)
[16:21] <consti1> and my computer doesn'twork on the last ubuntu version
[16:22] <holstein> try 10.04
[16:22] <holstein> thats the LTS
[16:22] <geirha> And since it's no longer supported, the software sources are probably gone.
[16:22] <geirha> Hence the errors from apt-get update
[16:22] <holstein> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[16:22] <geirha> !eofupgrade
[16:22] <ubot2> Factoid 'eofupgrade' not found
[16:22] <geirha> err
[16:23] <geirha> !eol
[16:23] <ubot2> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[16:23] <consti1> i installed ubuntu 10.04 before and my computed didn't work anymore
[16:23] <geirha> I'm so used to typing EOF rather than eol :)
[16:24] <geirha> consti1: intel graphics card?
[16:24] <holstein> consti1: you have options... you can try 10.04 or one of the newer versions of buntu and we can help trouble shoot
[16:24] <consti1> dunno...sorry
[16:24] * holstein BBL
[16:24] <consti1> ok
[16:26] <consti1> i have a aspire 5020series do you think 10.04 will work?
[16:26] <consti1> (\acer)
[16:27] <holstein> try it live... thats the best way to know
[16:27] <consti1> scary...
[16:27] <consti1> ok, so what do i do?
[16:27] <consti1> just upgrade?
[16:28] <holstein> consti1: well, i would try 10.04 live first
[16:28] <consti1> ok
[16:28] <holstein> see what steps are necessary to get the hardware working
[16:29] <holstein> consti1: live means *without* installing
[16:29] <consti1> ok, i get it now...
[16:29] <consti1> lol
[16:29] <holstein> :)
[16:30] <consti1> how do i try it live? on ubuntu's website?
[16:30] <holstein> you'll need to download a normal ubuntu CD
[16:30] <holstein> what i mean by normal is, not an *alternate* CD
[16:31] <holstein> for example, what i linked early... http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[16:31] <holstein> the 'desktop CD' there
[16:31] <holstein> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[16:32] <holstein> ^^ you download that, and at some point when booting, you'll see 2 options... install or try it live
[16:32] <consti1> ok, i'll have to contunue another time then cause need to get cd's...
[16:32] <consti1> thanks guys, see you later maybe
[16:33] <holstein> consti1: i dont see anything when googling that makes me think that machine is not supported
[16:33] <consti1> this is really helpfull!!!!!
[16:33] <holstein> sure... anytime :)
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[20:17] <UBUNTUN00B> hey all
[20:21] <s-fox> Hello.
[20:23] * nlsthzn waves
[20:24] * s-fox waves back.
[21:29] <fortiss> anyone know of a lock screen similar to the iphones swipe to unlock screen for ubuntu?
[21:30] <holstein> fortiss: AFAIK, they all just lock with password
[21:31] <holstein> also, theres not much customization with unity yet
[21:31] <holstein> that would be a really good wish-list bug :)
[21:31] <s-fox> Not seen that theme on gnome-look fortiss, sorry.
[21:32] <fortiss> doesnt NEED to look just like an iphone...
[21:33] <fortiss> I have a kiosk that needs a lock screen. It doesnt havea KB
[21:34] <fortiss> I dont care if its a REAL lock screen
[21:34] <s-fox> fortiss, http://gnome-look.org/content/search.php do a search on lock screen :-) Maybe you will see something you like.
[21:35] <fortiss> just an app that keeps you from pressing the web app buttons if you brush up against it. I just want all screen presses to be delibrate
[21:35] <s-fox> Oh
[21:36] <fortiss> Ive looked EVERYwhere online cant find a damn thing...
[21:37] <holstein> fortiss: i would also explore andriod and webOS
[21:37] <holstein> linux's that might have soemthing like that you could port easily
[21:42] <fortiss> hmm
[21:43] <fortiss> alright ill give it a shot thanks!
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