| [00:27] <jcrigby> persia: ping? | |
| [00:40] <persia> jcrigby, Hey. | |
| [00:41] <jcrigby> persia, I need you to send the technical board an email to ask them to tweek permissions to the packages to which the DMB has granted me upload rights | |
| [00:41] <jcrigby> persia, or so I have been told | |
| [00:41] <persia> That never happened? Ugh. Sure, I'll take care of that today. | |
| [00:42] <jcrigby> persia, thanks! | |
| [00:42] <persia> Really what you need is for someone with the right permissions to run the correct LP API client script. | |
| [00:42] <persia> But yeah, my sending email will probably make that happen. | |
| [00:43] <jcrigby> or at least with the email I can ping a TB member on IRC to remind them | |
| [00:44] <persia> They're usually fairly good about that. | |
| [00:44] <persia> In the meantime, if you have some packages somewhere and just need a signature, I'm happy to push them. | |
| === Lopi|idle is now known as Lopi | |
| [01:59] <rsalveti> Daviey: jcrigby is working on pushing a new u-boot release in the following days | |
| [01:59] <rsalveti> that should cover PXE support | |
| [01:59] <rsalveti> at least the initial support | |
| [02:00] <rsalveti> jcrigby: still don't have the permission to push the packages? | |
| [02:01] <jcrigby> rsalveti, I'm hoping that that will be fixed in the morning. If not I will ping some TB members | |
| [02:02] <rsalveti> jcrigby: cool | |
| [02:03] <rsalveti> jcrigby: as you're the u-boot maintainer from linaro side, are you ok releasing it at this thursday? | |
| [02:03] <rsalveti> iirc this is the same day the kernel team is tagging their tree | |
| [02:04] <jcrigby> rsalveti, yes I believe that is fine. The core functionality works the USB related stuff seems to work for others but not me:) | |
| [02:04] <rsalveti> jcrigby: we can try to do some debugging on this next week | |
| [02:05] <jcrigby> rsalveti, sounds good. I also sent some questions to some ti folks. I got back a response from a third person asking for pointers to git trees which I provided. | |
| [02:22] <persia> jcrigby, rsalveti: Will that cover https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-o-arm-uboot-tftp ? | |
| [02:23] <persia> Or does that spec need workitems, approval, etc.? | |
| [02:23] <rsalveti> persia: yup | |
| [02:23] <persia> Ah, cool! | |
| [02:23] <jcrigby> persia, at least for panda | |
| [02:23] <rsalveti> we may end up doing a hack session to try to also get it working for xM | |
| [02:23] <persia> jcrigby, Hrm? Does linaro's u-boot implementation differ by board? | |
| [02:23] <rsalveti> but don't know the current status of the usb patches for xM | |
| [02:24] <rsalveti> persia: not tftp and pxe, but the usb and network driver | |
| [02:24] <rsalveti> that depends on the hardware | |
| [02:24] <persia> Aha! So the functionality will be there, but drivers may not be there. | |
| [02:24] <jcrigby> persia, exactly | |
| [02:24] <persia> Could someone more knowledgeable update the spec description to indicate what is actually being implemented? | |
| [02:25] <rsalveti> persia: yeah, that's on my plate | |
| [02:25] <rsalveti> didn't do it yet because was busy with the unity and compiz work | |
| [02:25] <persia> Also, is there interest from other Linaro members to get their network or USB drivers into u-boot? | |
| [02:25] <jcrigby> persia, we may get omap3 working as well, it has usb working for storgage just not tested for networking yet | |
| [02:26] <persia> How about mx5 or one of the others? | |
| [02:26] <jcrigby> persia, not sure | |
| [02:26] <persia> Heh. That's about what I expected :) | |
| [02:26] <rsalveti> that would be nice to check with the specific landing team | |
| [02:27] <persia> Do you guys want to check? Do you want to give me names, and I'll ask folk? | |
| [02:28] <rsalveti> persia: https://wiki.linaro.org/LandingTeams | |
| [02:28] <persia> Heh. OK. I'll ask folk. | |
| [02:28] <persia> Please let me know when the spec is in shape, as I'll be pointing them there as I ask. | |
| [02:28] <rsalveti> persia: https://wiki.linaro.org/MeetTheTeam#Member_Services | |
| [02:29] <rsalveti> persia: just ping directly the landing team TLs | |
| [02:29] <persia> They already have all the context? | |
| [02:29] <rsalveti> probably not, usually they are mainly working on the kernel side | |
| [02:30] <persia> That's what I thought :) I'll wait until the spec is clear, so I have something real to talk about. | |
| [02:30] <rsalveti> ok | |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | |
| [06:59] <dhana013> Hi hello I want ubuntu 10.04 arm926 how to make from scratch | |
| [06:59] <dhana013> any one help me | |
| [07:40] <dhana013> I want ubuntu 10.04 arm926 | |
| [07:40] <dhana013> how to do it? | |
| [07:40] <dhana013> I am trying with rootstock | |
| [07:41] <infinity> dhana013: ARM926 is ARMv5, Ubuntu only supports ARMv7 at this point. | |
| [07:42] <infinity> dhana013: So, you either need to be prepared to replace the toolchain and literally rebuild the entire archive (ouch), use an older release that supported ARMv5, or perhaps use Debian? | |
| [07:49] <dhana013> thanks for u r information | |
| [09:46] <Daviey> rsalveti: super, thanks | |
| === aviksil1 is now known as aviksil_ | |
| [11:21] <Spider-Pork> morning | |
| [11:22] <Spider-Pork> i am using ubuntu 11.04 headless on my pandaboard. I need a console on monitor+mouse+keyboard instead of 115200 serial. Any help? | |
| [11:23] <Spider-Pork> Need i to modify boot script? | |
| [11:23] <ogra_> it will fire up tty logins after the configuration is done | |
| [11:24] <ogra_> so if you can do your configuration on serial it should already do what you want after that | |
| [11:25] <Spider-Pork> i would to have console on my dvi-d external monitor instead serial terminal | |
| [11:25] <ogra_> if you actually *need* oem-config on a framebuffer you indeed need to modify the cmdline a bit | |
| [11:25] <Spider-Pork> ok, you mean the cmd line at the boot prompt? | |
| [11:26] <ogra_> but beyond that, only the first boot config actually requires serial in the default configuration | |
| [11:26] <ogra_> i mean you need to edits boot.scr of the virgin, unbooted image | |
| [11:26] <ogra_> *edit | |
| [11:27] <Spider-Pork> ok | |
| [11:27] <Spider-Pork> is there a guide to help this edit? | |
| [11:27] <ogra_> somewhere in the ubuntu wiki i think | |
| [11:27] <Spider-Pork> ok, thank you ogra_ | |
| [11:28] <ogra_> look at the subpages of /ARM/OMAP on wiki.ubuntu.com | |
| [11:28] <ogra_> but if i were you i would just go with the default, do the first boot config on serial and then use the monitor | |
| [11:30] <Spider-Pork> sorry but i am just noob about these stuff. How can i use monitor after first boot? | |
| [11:30] <ogra_> there will be a login prompt on your screen, you just log in | |
| [11:30] <Spider-Pork> ehm, no there isn't | |
| [11:31] <ogra_> you already created the user and set the timezone etc ? | |
| [11:31] <Spider-Pork> yep the machine is running | |
| [11:32] <ogra_> did you reboot since ? | |
| [11:32] <Spider-Pork> yep | |
| [11:32] <ogra_> with the monitor plugged in ? | |
| [11:32] <Spider-Pork> and i see the boot menu on serial console | |
| [11:32] <Spider-Pork> yep | |
| [11:32] <ogra_> boot menu ? | |
| [11:32] <Spider-Pork> hit any key to stop auto-boot | |
| [11:32] <Spider-Pork> 3 2 1... | |
| [11:32] <ogra_> ah | |
| [11:33] <ogra_> so it boots to a login prompt on the serial console ? | |
| [11:33] <Spider-Pork> yep | |
| [11:33] <Spider-Pork> i see che serial config inside boot.script | |
| [11:34] <ogra_> ps ax|grep getty | |
| [11:34] <ogra_> do you see getty's running on the differnt tty's ? | |
| [11:34] <ogra_> it should list tty1 to 6 | |
| [11:35] <Spider-Pork> ogra_: http://ideone.com/n7GoA | |
| [11:35] <ogra_> so there are login prompts running on your ttys | |
| [11:36] <ogra_> are you sure your monitor is connected correctly ? | |
| [11:36] <Spider-Pork> i think yes | |
| [11:37] <Spider-Pork> the monitor has dvi-d interface | |
| [11:37] <ogra_> well, there should be no reason that you dont see a login prompt on your screen | |
| [11:38] <Spider-Pork> so i'm using a dvi-d/hdmi A cable | |
| [11:38] <ogra_> and you connected to which socket ? | |
| [11:38] <Spider-Pork> the external one | |
| [11:38] <ogra_> on the panda, to which graphics port did you connect ? | |
| [11:38] <Spider-Pork> the external port | |
| [11:38] <Spider-Pork> there are two ports | |
| [11:38] <Spider-Pork> one near ethernet cable | |
| [11:38] <ogra_> there is a hdmi and a dvi one | |
| [11:38] <Spider-Pork> and one external | |
| [11:39] <ogra_> they are labeled | |
| [11:39] <Spider-Pork> dvi one | |
| [11:39] <ogra_> did you try the other one ? | |
| [11:39] <Spider-Pork> nope because the label says: DVI-D and i'm using a DVI-D cable | |
| [11:39] <Spider-Pork> i try | |
| [11:40] <Spider-Pork> now is working | |
| [11:41] <ogra_> :) | |
| [11:41] <Spider-Pork> thank you ogra_ | |
| [11:41] <Spider-Pork> why? | |
| [11:41] <Spider-Pork> i followed the tag on the board | |
| [11:42] <Spider-Pork> nice thank you ogra_ | |
| [11:43] <Spider-Pork> i saw inside boot script that the ram is limited to 512M | |
| [11:43] <Spider-Pork> why? | |
| [11:43] <ogra_> it isnt | |
| [11:43] <ogra_> check with free | |
| [11:43] <ogra_> there is a reserved memory area for the dicati engine | |
| [11:43] <ogra_> *ducati | |
| [11:44] <Spider-Pork> ah ok | |
| [11:44] <Spider-Pork> and ducati engine is? | |
| [11:44] <ogra_> starting at 512m | |
| [11:44] <ogra_> ducati does all the multimedia processing | |
| [11:44] <Spider-Pork> ah cool | |
| [11:44] <Spider-Pork> thank you | |
| [11:59] <ppisati> i like the ducati monster carbon black | |
| [11:59] * ppisati hides... | |
| [11:59] <ppisati> :) | |
| [12:00] <ogra_> the one that MacSlow has ? | |
| [12:00] <ppisati> who? | |
| [12:00] <ogra_> MacSlow from the DX team | |
| [12:00] <ogra_> i think he drives one | |
| [12:00] <ppisati> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ducati_Monster_620_Dark.jpg | |
| [12:01] <ogra_> i think thats the one, not 100% sure | |
| [12:01] <ppisati> cool, i like it :) | |
| [12:02] <ppisati> ogra_: btw, any updates on the ac100 image? | |
| [12:03] <ppisati> ogra_: shall i bring mine to dublin? so you can see where the installatin fails? | |
| [12:03] <ogra_> just rolling a new kernel package | |
| [12:03] <ogra_> yes pleas | |
| [12:03] <ogra_> e | |
| [12:03] <ppisati> ok | |
| [12:03] <ogra_> what model was that ? | |
| [12:03] <ogra_> 10Z ? | |
| [12:03] <ppisati> wai | |
| [12:03] <ppisati> t | |
| [12:03] <ppisati> yep | |
| [12:04] <ogra_> sigh | |
| [12:04] <ppisati> uat? | |
| [12:04] <ogra_> ok, so its definitely a prob with that model | |
| [12:04] <ppisati> ouch | |
| [12:04] <ogra_> tobin has the same | |
| [12:04] <ppisati> and it fails in the same way | |
| [12:04] <ogra_> but he got a 10U now which works fine | |
| [12:05] <ppisati> plymouth fails and lalala | |
| [12:05] <ogra_> that we will see in dublin ;) | |
| [12:05] <ogra_> the plymouth messages are just cosmetic | |
| [12:05] <ogra_> you can ignore them | |
| [12:05] <ogra_> thats not the cause of the issue | |
| [12:05] <ppisati> ok | |
| [12:05] <ogra_> apparently the unpacked tarball is corrupt | |
| [12:06] <ppisati> ouch | |
| [12:06] <ogra_> so your rootfs isnt completely there | |
| [12:06] <ppisati> did you roll a new rootfs too? | |
| [12:06] <ogra_> that seems to only happen on that one model which is really weird | |
| [12:06] <ogra_> i will | |
| [12:06] <ppisati> ok | |
| [12:06] <ogra_> first the kernel needs to be up to date ... that takes a day | |
| [12:07] <ogra_> but i plan to have a newer natty image in place before the sprint and hopefully also a headles spin | |
| [12:08] <ppisati> cool | |
| [12:08] <ppisati> a headless would be awesome | |
| [12:09] <ppisati> as a side note, there's a fix for the usb thing on omap | |
| [12:09] <ogra_> yup, i hear you | |
| [12:09] <ogra_> i thought that didnt work ? | |
| [12:09] <ppisati> there's a new one :) | |
| [12:09] <ppisati> actually 2 patches | |
| [12:09] <ppisati> but anyway | |
| [12:09] <ppisati> testing right now | |
| [12:09] <ppisati> works on omap4 | |
| [12:10] <ppisati> trying omap3 now | |
| [12:11] <ppisati> and while it compiles, i think i'll grab some food | |
| [12:40] <ppisati> and now it breaks in new and unexpected ways... ohhhh... | |
| [12:43] <ogra_> joy ! | |
| === zyga-food is now known as zyga | |
| [12:54] <lugu> Hi! I am trying to port Ubuntu to an HTC device, but the audio driver neither support ALSA not OSS... | |
| [12:55] <lugu> it use a specific device /dev/msm_pcm_out ... | |
| [12:56] <lugu> do other ARM devices have exotic sound support? | |
| [12:58] <hrw> which htc device? | |
| [14:15] <brendand_> what does the pandaboard do with the led's if there's been a kernel panic? | |
| [14:16] <brendand_> heh, it's back now. everything froze for a while | |
| [14:33] <lilstevie> lugu: some do some don't depends on the Audio codec | |
| [14:33] <lilstevie> lugu: just out of interest what device | |
| [14:47] <dhana013> How to port ubuntu 9.10 for ARM926 | |
| [14:51] <lilstevie> dhana013: that is a lot of work | |
| [14:52] <lilstevie> ARM926 is armv5 afaik | |
| [14:52] <lilstevie> which means compiling every last thing | |
| [14:53] <dhana013> I have tried with rootstock not working | |
| [14:53] <lilstevie> rootstock doesnt compile everything | |
| [14:53] <lilstevie> you need to get teh source for everything and compile | |
| [14:54] <dhana013> give any link | |
| [14:55] <lilstevie> not offhand | |
| [14:55] <lilstevie> personally I would just use debian | |
| [14:55] <lilstevie> it is a lot of work | |
| [16:16] <peteiow> Hello is there a chat room for new users please? | |
| [16:17] <persia> persia, Depending on your question, here may be fine. | |
| [16:17] * persia fails tab completion | |
| [16:19] <lilstevie> persia: hehe I hate it when that happens, | |
| [16:20] <persia> "peteiow" < "persia", but apparently my client was processing the /part just at the moment I pressed <tab>, but before having printed it :) | |
| [16:20] <persia> Err, no, I'm completely wrong. Still, shouldn't complete to myself :/ | |
| [16:21] <lilstevie> heh I tabcomp with 2 chars so it would have for me | |
| [16:21] <lilstevie> but my client also completes to the last to talk for a given pattern | |
| [16:22] <persia> That's helpful. Extra points if it also includes those who have already left the channel in the candidates. | |
| [16:23] <lilstevie> no extra points | |
| [16:23] <lilstevie> :( | |
| [16:23] <lilstevie> part and rejoin resets that person in the queue | |
| [16:23] <persia> (perhaps for some time (e.g. 300 seconds), with the timeout indefinitely extended when there is an outstanding highlight from that nick) | |
| [16:24] <persia> Oh, that makes it extra tricky for folk who bounce a lot. | |
| [16:24] <persia> (or netsplits) | |
| [16:24] <lilstevie> yeah :/ | |
| [16:25] <persia> Oh, you might know: earlier apachelogger was asking about GLES drivers for i.MX53, and whether there were any available under terms that could allow them into multiverse. | |
| [16:29] <lilstevie> no idea, but a quick look at freescales site indicates that the drivers may be difficlt | |
| [16:29] <lilstevie> s/difficlt/difficult/ | |
| [16:29] <persia> Yeah, that was my experience from the same look. | |
| [16:30] <persia> I can never keep track of which devices you're playing with, so I figured it was worth asking :) | |
| [16:31] <lilstevie> what is the stance on licencing for multiverse, needs to be canonical friendly, or is it maintainer of the package is responcible | |
| [16:32] <persia> Needs to be mirror-friendly. | |
| [16:32] <lilstevie> ah | |
| [16:32] <persia> Specifically, needs to allow redistribution without cost or explicit acceptance. | |
| [16:33] <lilstevie> that is fair enough | |
| [16:33] <lilstevie> as for the devices I am playing with, as a general rule, mainstream android devices | |
| [16:33] <persia> It's rather relaxed. That said, be careful if you use software from there: some of it requires sending postcards to folk, some of it is non-commercial only, some can't be used in some countries, etc. | |
| [16:33] <lilstevie> ages ago it was the iphone | |
| [16:34] <persia> Oh, just retail stuff? I thought you sometimes did development boards also. | |
| [16:34] <lilstevie> I don't get my hands on many dev boards these days :( | |
| [16:34] <persia> Prices keep dropping (although I'll admit I much prefer retail devices) | |
| [16:35] <lilstevie> yeah | |
| [16:35] <lilstevie> polish of retail devices is just that bit nicer | |
| [16:35] <lilstevie> even if I am bringing an unsupported os :p | |
| [16:35] <persia> They also stack and travel better. | |
| [16:35] <lilstevie> looking forward to my next target | |
| [16:36] <lilstevie> yeah that is true | |
| [16:37] <persia> What do you have planned? | |
| [16:37] <lilstevie> transformer | |
| [16:38] <persia> That's the one that turns into a robot? | |
| [16:39] <lilstevie> haha the one that turns into a netbook | |
| [16:39] <persia> Ah, so not http://mobilementalism.com/2007/09/04/motorola-transformer-phone/ | |
| [16:40] <lilstevie> haha no, | |
| [16:40] <lilstevie> that thing looks cool though | |
| [16:40] <lilstevie> ASUS eeepad transformer | |
| [16:41] <persia> Oooh, nice. | |
| [16:41] <lilstevie> yeah :) | |
| [16:41] <lilstevie> should arrive soonish | |
| [16:42] <persia> Any chance that a kernel could be constructed that worked for both that and the ac100, or is too little autodetectable? | |
| [16:43] <lilstevie> probably a bit big | |
| [16:43] <persia> big meaning incompatible with the partitioning, or just extra megabytes? | |
| [16:44] <lilstevie> big meaning extra megabytes which arent able to be spared :( | |
| [16:44] <persia> What's the limitation there? | |
| [16:44] <lilstevie> ogra was saying as it is the natty initramfs does not fit due to the size limitations | |
| [16:45] <lilstevie> most android devices have a limitation of around 7-8MB | |
| [16:45] <persia> Oh, the partitioning. | |
| [16:46] <persia> We definitely need a way to safely and correctly repartition those, and apply a bootloader we can understand. | |
| [16:47] <persia> On my Dynabook, I have about 3GB wasted because of the restrictions, and having to maintain multiple kernel trees just makes it hard. | |
| [16:47] <lilstevie> well on these tegra devices it shouldn't be that horrible | |
| [16:47] <lilstevie> on my galaxy tab I had to tweak compression and rip things down | |
| [16:48] <lilstevie> but if I understand what APX mode is, it should be a bootrom level recovery mechanism | |
| [16:48] <lilstevie> opening the doors to porting uboot | |
| [16:48] <persia> Oh, excellent! | |
| [16:49] <lilstevie> I wouldnt dare for my tab though | |
| [16:49] <lilstevie> sbl is the lowest form of recovery | |
| === zyga is now known as zyga-food | |
| [16:53] <lilstevie> well bedtime I think :) | |
| [16:53] <persia> Sleep well. | |
| [16:53] <lilstevie> I'll try :) | |
| [16:53] <lilstevie> have a good morning/day/afternoon/evening/night | |
| [17:53] <rsalveti> janimo: any idea already why firefox takes so much time to start on arm? | |
| [17:56] <cpearson> which version? | |
| [17:58] <rsalveti> cpearson: any version :-) | |
| [17:58] <rsalveti> cpearson: janimo had a bp to try to speed it up | |
| [17:58] <rsalveti> cpearson: the webm issue is related with thumb2 support | |
| [17:58] <rsalveti> built firefox 5 without thumb2 and I'm able to play youtube videos with html5 + webm | |
| [17:59] <rsalveti> reporting at bug 789198 now | |
| [17:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 789198 in firefox "Firefox crashes when attempting to play webm video OMAP4 Panda Board" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789198 | |
| [17:59] <rsalveti> sorry, was supposed to be to chrisccoulson :-) | |
| [18:00] <chrisccoulson> rsalveti, thanks. i'm sure it was somebody in here who turned on thumb2 support ;) | |
| [18:00] <ogra_> it wasnt :P | |
| [18:01] <ogra_> doko turned it on :) | |
| [18:01] <hrw> have a nice day(s) - see you on friday | |
| [18:01] <ogra_> rsalveti, janimo has a spec to research that | |
| [18:01] <ogra_> (firefox startup time) | |
| [18:05] <rsalveti> ogra: chrisccoulson: was changed by bug 696895 | |
| [18:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696895 in xulrunner-2.0 "FTBFS on armel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696895 | |
| [18:05] <rsalveti> janimo probably added it | |
| [18:06] <ogra_> thats a quite old bug id | |
| [18:06] <ogra_> january, hmm | |
| [18:08] <rsalveti> not *that* old | |
| [18:08] <rsalveti> seems to affect only libvpx | |
| [18:08] <rsalveti> that is used when playing webm videos | |
| [18:08] <rsalveti> probably nobody ever tested it | |
| [18:09] <ogra_> so libvpx needs to learn thumb2 ? | |
| [18:09] <rsalveti> ogra: think so, but the problem is that firefox keeps it's own version of libvpx | |
| [18:09] <rsalveti> and link it against libxul (huge link) | |
| [18:09] <ogra_> oh fun | |
| [18:16] <rsalveti> chrisccoulson: will build against latest nightly and report the bug upstream | |
| [18:17] <rsalveti> ogra: chrisccoulson: should we disable thumb2 support for now? I can create the debdiff | |
| [18:17] <rsalveti> this will let people play youtube videos with webm support (html5) | |
| [18:17] <ogra_> if that doesnt cause an ftbfs again | |
| [18:17] <rsalveti> I believe it's important as we don't have proper flash support | |
| [18:17] * ogra_ would love to use youtube on his ac100 :) | |
| [18:18] <rsalveti> ok, will create the debdiff and fire up a build at my ppa to see if it all goes well :-) | |
| === zyga-food is now known as zyga | |
| [21:24] <sveinse> What is the difference between Ubuntu's 11.04 and Linaro's 11.05 ? | |
| [21:27] <charlie-tca> Linaro released a month later, since it wasn't ready in April | |
| [21:31] <sveinse> That's obvious, but what else is Linaro throwing into the box since they have their own release of it | |
| [21:36] <charlie-tca> !linaro | |
| [21:36] <ubot2> Factoid 'linaro' not found | |
| === prpplague^3 is now known as prpplague | |