| [04:36] <poolie> lifeless, i'm going to have a stab at ssh reconnection | |
| [04:37] <lifeless> poolie: awesome! | |
| [04:41] <poolie> will be awesome if i fix it, anyhow | |
| [04:43] <lifeless> poolie: its awesome that you're looking at it, really. | |
| [04:43] <lifeless> poolie: much appreciated | |
| === AuroraBorealis is now known as aurora|afk | |
| [04:59] <thomi> Hi poolie - quick Q: There was some discussion here last Friday regarding the new config file features, and I'm not sure if that changes the next step for my config patch or not. I got the impression that maybe the PatchMatching idea was being dropped? | |
| [04:59] <poolie> i don't actually know what that is | |
| [05:01] <thomi> oh - hmm, it seems the devnotes have changed since then anyway :) | |
| [06:54] <stylesen> poolie: ping | |
| [06:55] <poolie> hi stylesen | |
| [06:55] <stylesen> poolie: pm ? | |
| === aurora|afk is now known as AuroraBorealis | |
| === Mkaysi_ is now known as Mkaysi | |
| [09:28] <gour> i've pulled one branch from LP, converted it to 2a format and now pushing back to my account at LP...is starts speedy, but then it slows down..as a hell...yesterday i had to kill it after 6 hours...it's ~3500revs...any idea what might be wrong? | |
| [09:28] <lifeless> you haven't converted the copy on LP | |
| [09:28] <lifeless> at a guess | |
| [09:29] <gour> i've converted locally | |
| [09:29] <lifeless> are you pushing to the same branch on LP ? | |
| [09:30] <gour> the original branch is lp:~mdipierro/web2py/devel and i'm pushing to lp:~gour/web2py/devel | |
| [09:31] <gour> here is what i see now: 105548kB 28kB/s / Fetching revisions:Inserting stream:Estimate 51443/54666 and after it arrives at 51000 it crawls | |
| [09:32] <lifeless> interesting | |
| [09:32] <lifeless> uhm | |
| [09:32] <gour> 3500revs is not so big, imho | |
| [09:32] <lifeless> I suggest filing a question (or asking here in an hour or so - I have to go, and I don't think jam or jelmer or vila are here yet) | |
| [09:33] <gour> lifeless: ok. thank you...i'll wait here | |
| === gour1 is now known as gour | |
| [12:25] <gour> jelmer: hello. lifeless told me to ask you, vila or jam about my problem of slow upload to LP...do you mind? | |
| [12:26] <jelmer> hi gour | |
| [12:27] <jelmer> gour: what's slow exactly? | |
| [12:27] <gour> jelmer: push...after some time it starts crawling | |
| [12:28] <gour> jelmer: the original branch is lp:~mdipierro/web2py/devel and i'm pushing to lp:~gour/web2py/devel after i converted branch to 2a format | |
| [12:28] <gour> today i got 'Write failed: Broken pipehing revisions:Inserting stream:Estimate 51485/54666' and yesterday i killed push after not being complete in 6 hours | |
| [12:29] <gour> my adsl is 256k/4M | |
| [12:30] <jelmer> gour: how big is the repository? | |
| [12:30] <gour> jelmer: ~3500revs...let me size it | |
| [12:32] <gour> jelmer: hmm...tar.gz is 1.1G...no wonder, but i see lot of stuff like 'web2py/.bzr/repository/obsolete_packs/...' is it normal? | |
| [12:33] <gour> let me check what is the size of original branch in old format | |
| [12:33] <jelmer> the obsolete packs can be removed | |
| [12:34] <gour> just remove obsolete_packs directory? | |
| [12:35] <jelmer> there's no need to remove it, but you should be able to, and please exclude it when looking at the size of the repo | |
| [12:36] <gour> i'm pulling orignal repo now | |
| [12:39] <gour> obsolete_packs occupy 590M and ../repository/packs is 577M | |
| [12:55] <fullermd> Don't remove the _directory_. Removing the files _in_ it should be fine. | |
| [13:00] <gour> jelmer: here http://pastebin.com/pQ9LQvVA is du for old format and here http://pastebin.com/bk3xFdG6 for a 2a format which is 2x bigger...is it normal? | |
| [13:01] <jelmer> gour: that seems to be purely because of the obsolete packs | |
| [13:01] <jelmer> so it's normal, as the obsolete packs can be removed | |
| [13:01] <gour> why are they created? | |
| [13:02] <fullermd> Because some filesystems are lying liars that lie. | |
| [13:03] <fullermd> (and even when they aren't, the hardware picks up the slack by lying on their behalf) | |
| [13:03] <gour> heh | |
| [13:04] <gour> I rm-ed obsolete packs...now checking repo | |
| [13:05] <jelmer> gour: lp:~gour/web2py/devel doesn't appear to exist | |
| [13:05] <gour> jelmer: yes, it did not complete | |
| [13:05] <gour> so i rm-ed it | |
| [13:06] <jelmer> gour: I'm wondering if perhaps it was in an older format, and bzr was trying to convert back from 2a into that format | |
| [13:06] <jelmer> while doing the push | |
| [13:06] <gour> lp:~gour/web2py/devel is supposed to be the original branch in 2a format | |
| [13:06] <gour> jelmer: no, it was not exuisting before | |
| [13:07] <gour> however, original web2py is still in old format | |
| [13:08] <gour> now 2a branch repo is 591M...let me try to push it | |
| [13:11] <jelmer> gour: not having the obsolete packs won't impact performance in any way | |
| [13:12] <fullermd> What might LP's stacking stuff do, to pushing a 2a variant of an older format branch? | |
| [13:16] <gour> let me see if it will complete now in reasonable time... | |
| [13:27] <gour> it arrived at ~4850/51093...and now it is becoming very slow... | |
| [14:30] <gour> i cloned original hg repo from google and pushed it to bitbucket...it did the job in ~15mins (14:09,85 total) while pushing to LP is still crawling...it's very frustrating | |
| [14:40] <jelmer> gour: ah, the original is an import from hg? | |
| [14:40] <jelmer> gour: that might be related | |
| [14:40] <gour> jelmer: yes | |
| [14:41] <gour> but don't know how it's done | |
| [14:41] <jelmer> what was the original again? | |
| [14:41] <gour> lp:~mdipierro/web2py/devel | |
| [14:42] <gour> i'm resisting to use git (bzr-git is great), but there are more & more projects using hg...and things like this make it cumbersome | |
| [14:45] <jelmer> hmm, doesn't appear to've be done with bzr-hg | |
| [14:46] * jelmer tries reproducing the issue | |
| [14:46] <gour> jelmer: original repo is at hg clone https://code.google.com/p/web2py/ | |
| [14:46] <gour> jelmer: however, bzr branch is regularly synced | |
| [14:47] <jelmer> gour: not using bzr-hg, that doesn't support the pack-0.92 format | |
| [14:48] <gour> well, i do not use bzr-hg at all for this repo | |
| [14:52] * gour quit-ed push to LP... | |
| [14:53] <gour> and i wonder how he converts from hg to bzr... | |
| [14:55] <jelmer> gour: I'm running the upgrade here now, will try to push in a second | |
| [14:56] <gour> jelmer: thanks a lot | |
| [15:03] <jam1> jelmer: I'm pretty surprised about how many web2py branches are on Launchpad, given that there isn't a development focus, so they should all be 500MB or so | |
| === jam1 is now known as jam | |
| [15:05] <jam> anyway, time to pick up my son, catch you guys later | |
| [15:05] <jelmer> hdy jzm | |
| [15:05] <jelmer> I mean | |
| [15:05] <jelmer> Hey jam :) | |
| [15:05] <jelmer> jam: Have a nice evening | |
| [15:05] <fullermd> Shoot, you missed by the _whole_ alphabet! :p | |
| [15:05] <gour> lol | |
| [15:06] * jelmer hits fullermd on the head with the alphabet | |
| [15:06] * fullermd is consonantly abused like this :( | |
| [15:09] <jelmer> hehe | |
| [15:21] <gour> jelmer: i've to go out. bbl in ~2hrs | |
| [15:22] <jelmer> gour: k | |
| [15:52] <jelmer> gour: push just finished here: bzr push lp:~jelmer/web2py/test 10.66s user 1.19s system 0% cpu 42:35.45 total | |
| === abentley is now known as abentley-lunch | |
| [16:14] <jelmer> gour: it looks like the hg repository has significantly different contents | |
| [16:19] <Quintasan> jelmer: I think it was some time ago and maxb even told us about it but I forgot to say thanks for fixing bzr in LP so we have KDE imports working | |
| [16:19] <jelmer> Quintasan: np :) | |
| [16:19] * Quintasan is sure forgetful | |
| [16:23] <jelmer> Quintasan: does that mean all recipes are working now? | |
| [16:23] <Quintasan> jelmer: If the code inside the branches is working then yes :P | |
| [16:27] <jelmer> :) | |
| === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch | |
| [16:37] <jimis> jelmer: I got a notification that a fix is ready regarding the bug about lp:gcc svn import timeout | |
| [16:37] <jimis> Is it to not fetch the tags at all? | |
| [16:38] <jelmer> jimis: it will fetch the tags but not the revisions those tags are referencing, if those revisions are not part of the ancestry of the branch | |
| [16:38] <jelmer> jimis: this is consistent with what it did earlier | |
| [16:47] <jimis> jelmer: did you try increasing the timeout value in Twisted? | |
| [16:47] <jimis> I haven't worked with Twisted, but here is a relevant thread I found, in case you missed it: | |
| [16:48] <jimis> http://osdir.com/ml/python.twisted.web/2006-02/msg00048.html | |
| === kedare is now known as kedare_ifr | |
| === abentley-lunch is now known as abentley | |
| [17:07] <jelmer> jimis: I'm not sure I follow; how is twisted relevant here? | |
| [17:11] <gour> jelmer: what do you mean 'different contents' ? | |
| [17:12] <jimis> jelmer: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/73597623/vcs-imports-gcc-trunk.log | |
| [17:12] <gour> you have a nice conenction considering it took 42mins only | |
| [17:13] <jimis> jelmer: Isn't it the same error, twisted.internet.error.TimeoutError? | |
| [17:21] <jimis> gour: which bzr version you have? | |
| [17:21] <gour> jimis: 2.3.4 | |
| [17:22] <jimis> I've seen major improvements with 2.4, related to how much data is actually downloaded | |
| [17:22] <jimis> I wouldn't know if that's relevant to your case however | |
| [17:23] <jimis> lp:gcc is a huge branch, and it's *unworkable* with 2.3 | |
| [17:23] <gour> jimis: that would be nice improvment..the present sitaution is almost like showstopper | |
| [17:23] <jimis> 2.4 is working just fine though, even if it feels a bit sluggish (expected with huge repos like this) | |
| [17:24] <jimis> gour: I'm not sure if it will help your case, but it's easy to try the beta | |
| [17:24] <gour> jimis: i may try it | |
| [17:25] <jimis> just make sure your python is >= 2.6 | |
| [17:25] <gour> 2.7.2 here | |
| [17:27] <jelmer> gour: there is a different number of revisions in both repositories, and the actual files seem to differ | |
| [17:27] <jelmer> gour: I think my bzr version probably matters as well - what are you running? | |
| [17:27] <gour> hmm...strange | |
| [17:27] <gour> jelmer: 2.3.4 | |
| [17:27] <jelmer> gour: So I'm curious how one branch is created from the other | |
| [17:27] <gour> me too | |
| [17:28] <jelmer> jimis: the error message is the same, but it's got nothing to do with the actual problem | |
| [17:28] <jimis> jelmer: ok, I wouldn't know | |
| [17:28] <jimis> I saw a timeout, so I thought increasing the socket timeout would mitigate the error... | |
| [17:29] <fullermd> Latency may contribute too; you're probably closer to LP than he is. | |
| [17:30] <fullermd> Though one would hope that the smarts are smart enough that that's unimportant in such a case... | |
| [17:30] <jelmer> I'm running 2.4b5, which I suspect will matter. | |
| [17:30] <gour> i see | |
| [17:33] <jelmer> gour: the bzr repository includes a bunch of tar files, the hg one does not | |
| [17:33] <jimis> Just my opinion here: Guys, try to push 2.4 forward as fast as possible, older versions make bzr look like a fool for big projects... | |
| [17:34] <jimis> I had lost several hours waiting on 2.3 to finish until I came to this channel and you told me to try 2.4 beta | |
| [17:34] <jelmer> jimis: 2.4.0 will be released in 2 days (: | |
| [17:34] <jimis> good :-) | |
| [17:34] <jelmer> gour: the hg repo history doesn't start until dec 2009, until well after those tarballs were removed from the bzr repo | |
| [17:35] <jelmer> gour: another thing that will help is setting the development focus for web2py on launchpad | |
| [17:35] <jelmer> gour: and upgrading the main branch to 2a | |
| [17:35] <jelmer> that will mean every push of a new branch to launchpad won't push up any revisions that are in the development focus | |
| [17:36] <jelmer> jimis: I agree, although it only matters for the *really* big projects like gcc | |
| [17:39] <jimis> jelmer: 2.4-final will be incompatible with python 2.4 after all? | |
| [17:40] <jimis> since I'm running it on RHEL I had to fight around this issue too | |
| === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno | |
| [17:40] <jimis> it's fine now, I'm just curious | |
| [17:42] <indigo> i'm pondering ways to bring the benefits to revision control to people in my company that spend most of their time in excel and email. Is there a really, really simple, graphical interface to bzr that I should consider? | |
| [17:56] <jelmer> indigo: qbzr/bzr-explorer/tortoisebzr are the ones to consider I think | |
| [17:57] <jelmer> I don't have much experience using a graphical interface exclusively | |
| [17:57] <jelmer> jimis: yeah | |
| [18:03] <gour> jelmer: i suggested main dev to upgrade to 2a, but wanted to try it ourself first...and those problems are not really auspicious to push migration... | |
| [18:04] <gour> is there anything special in usinb bzr in-place? i'd like to try 2.4beta | |
| [18:08] <jelmer> gour: using it in place should be fine, except for plugins that might give warnings | |
| [18:08] <gour> jelmer: ok, i did 'home' install | |
| [18:14] * gour is pushing with 2.4b5 | |
| [18:14] <jelmer> gour: you probably want to make sure the extensions were built and installed too | |
| [18:15] <gour> jelmer: i believe that, based on --version output, it's ok | |
| [18:17] <gour> hmm...warning about some extensions | |
| [18:18] <gour> but launchpad is 2.4.b5 | |
| [18:18] <jelmer> gour: I mean the C extensions | |
| [18:19] <gour> jelmer: that was built | |
| [20:33] <urbanape> Hey, all. Using Ubuntu 11.04, with Emacs Snapshot GTK, vc-bzr, and have gpg-agent installed. I'm still having trouble signing my commits. I get the following error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/123944 | |
| [20:33] <urbanape> I've checked (both via shell-mode and getenv) that my GPG_AGENT_INFO is available to emacs. | |
| [20:34] <urbanape> Google is not much my friend in this regard, but I've searched for 'vc-bzr gpg sign commits' and the like | |
| [21:37] <jelmer> urbanape: does it work outside of vc-bzr? | |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | |
| [23:52] <poolie> hi all | |
| [23:52] <lifeless> hai | |
| [23:58] <urbanape> jelmer: yes, it does, even from within emacs (shell-mode) | |