2011/09/13/#ubuntu+1.txt

[00:00] <orangey> Hello all!
[00:00] <orangey> I can't get evolution to launch since I upgraded to OO
[00:02] <orangey> unfortunately I can't give much more information. It starts, but the main window just doesn't display!
[00:03] <fishscene> Not sure what is going on. But I was just notified of a distro upgrade in the Ubuntu beta install, but the upgrade crashes the installer. I ran "sudo update-manager -d" in terminal, last traceback was "TypeError: glib.markup_escape_text() takes at most 1 argument (2 given)"
[00:03] <orangey> fishscene: same. I figured I'd just give it a day
[00:03] <orangey> fishscene: do you mean a partial upgrade?
[00:03] <fishscene> Yes, partial upgrade
[00:04] <orangey> fishscene: if you analyze it with dist-upgrade, you'll see that it just doesn't work. probably just broken dependencies. I figured as a result of the repository not being fully updated
[00:04] <orangey> fishscene: indeed. now my repository is up to date, and it's no longer an issue
[00:05] <fishscene> Well it's something. I just wasn't sure if it was specific to me or a more widespread issue
[00:08] <fishscene> orangey: Seems like my repo might not be up to date. I'll check back later. :) Thanks for letting me know.
[00:08] <orangey> np
[00:09] <corecode> did they remove opie support in the latest gnome-terminal?
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[00:33] <orangey> what's opie?
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[02:47] <BrandonBolton> Hello, is there an more simple command to update the files that sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't get? Right now I have been doing sudo apt-get install (package name) to update it.
[02:48] <micahg> BrandonBolton: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:48] <BrandonBolton> micahg: Thank you, that will save me lots of time. :)
[02:50] <BrandonBolton> micahg: That command just removed a lot of libreoffice stuff and never installed the newer version.
[02:52] <micahg> BrandonBolton: right, that's because it's not built on i386
[02:53] <micahg> I'd suggest using update-manager or the software entry in the session menu to be sure that something like this doesn't happen, it'll prompt you when you can safely upgrade these things
[02:55] <BrandonBolton> micahg: Okay, I was just worried for a minute. Thank you for clearing that up.
[03:02] <milaz`> micahg: can you clarify what happened to libreoffice?
[03:02] <micahg> milaz`: just a build failure, will probably be addressed in the morning
[03:02] <milaz`> i'm asking because i'm on amd64, and after i updated a list in update manager, it shows libreoffice packages with grayed-out checkboxes
[03:03] <milaz`> micahg: thanks
[04:57] <almoxarife> yeap, something not right about libreoffice updates, I had to resort to the install from the offical web page
[04:57] <urlin2u> almoxarife, theory is a broken build.
[04:59] <almoxarife> urlin2u: no theory, I went thru the fiasco today, broken dependencies, the update removed files but did not upgrade them
[04:59] <urlin2u> isn't it just plain fun though. :D
[05:00] <almoxarife> urlin2u: this is why I love crashware, it is fun
[05:01] <almoxarife> 2 weeks back I think it was, suspend disappeared from gnome-shell, then it returns, life is good
[05:01] <urlin2u> my unity has the cube and gnome runs nice.
[05:02] <almoxarife> I can't get used to unity, shell is ok
[05:03] <urlin2u> palatable with the cube, I've gotten used to it.
[05:03] <urlin2u> and the left panel shrunk of course
[05:05] <almoxarife> the dash on shell can use some work, those icons are nears disappeared on me, either I keep a few favorites or I can't see them
[06:04] <robertzaccour> AMD Unsupported hardware watermark anyone?
[06:09] <AlanBell> morning all
[06:09] <AlanBell> could someone have a go at reproducing bug 848336
[06:09] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 848336 in unity (Ubuntu) "screensaver is behind the unity dash so impossible to unlock" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848336
[06:10] <AlanBell> click the dash, and leave it open and wait for the screen to lock
[06:12] <bullgard4> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libreoffice-base-core: "Package: libreoffice-base-core (1:3.4.3-1ubuntu1 and others) " What does here mean: "and others"?
[06:38] <robertzaccour> there's a watermark in the lower right that says "AMD Unsupported hardware" any ideas?
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[07:26] <scarleo> Hi, trying to upgrade to 11.10 on a VB install but I always get stuck after installing libpam0g when cups is stopping/starting. It just doesn't do anything after that. Any suggestions?
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[07:56] <bullgard4> scarleo: VB means Virtual Basic?
[07:57] <scarleo> bullgard4: no VirtualBox, but I managed to solve it, thanks anyway :)
[07:58] <scarleo> bullgard4: What's Virtual BAsic?
[07:58] <bullgard4> scarleo: Wikipedia will certainly tell  you.
[07:59] <lucidfox> I think bullgard4 meant Visual Basic
[07:59] <scarleo> bullgard4: There's no Virtual Basic on wikipedia ;)
[08:00] <bullgard4> I meant Visual Basic.
[08:01] <_et> how do I find the exact version number or build date of an installed daily build??
[08:01] <_et> I have two machines on which daily builds are installed and I'm not able to find out which is which
[08:01] <_et> please help
[08:02] <scarleo> Maybe I should try to install 11.10 in Visual Basic...
[08:03] <bullgard4> You better use a more careful wording to your questions here in this channel.
[08:04] <scarleo> Ok, sorry, didn't intend to upset anyone
[08:22] <bullgard4> _et: I only know the command '~$ uname -a'.
[08:23] <AnAnt> Hello, how do I configure startup applications in Gnome3 ? I can't find it in the control center
[08:27] <urlin2u> AnAnt, I use synapse which I think opens it, but here is a link. http://askubuntu.com/questions/37957/how-do-i-manage-applications-on-startup-in-gnome-3
[08:28] <urlin2u> AnAnt, gnome-session-properties works in the terminala s well i believe
[08:28] <urlin2u> as*
[08:28] <AnAnt> urlin2u: yes, thanks
[08:29] <AnAnt> urlin2u: are you using Gnome Shell ?
[08:29] <tomodachi> just curious, how is performance in ubuntu+1 to ubuntu in the beta?
[08:29] <urlin2u> AnAnt, yes but i'm in natty right now.
[08:30] <urlin2u> tomodachi, that makes no sense.
[08:30] <urlin2u> :D
[08:30] <tomodachi> urlin2u: im sure you can figure out my question if you try
[08:31] <vega-> i couldn't
[08:31] <urlin2u> tomodachi, not for free.
[08:31] <tomodachi> how is the performance in ubuntu +1 nowdays compared to ubuntu
[08:38] <Rods_Tiger> using oneiric, when I insert another usb stick with some data, I can?t open it - it says I?m not authorised.
[08:39] <Rods_Tiger> how can I rectify this?
[08:41] <tomodachi> Rods_Tiger: do you know what filesystem the usb stick is formated with?!
[08:43] <_et> bullgard4: but that is the same for any nightly build. No build date there
[08:45] <bullgard4> _et: Unfortunately yes.
[08:45] <Rods_Tiger> it doesn't seem to matter - any usb stick won't read
[08:46] <Rods_Tiger> or even the internal hard drive, it seems!
[08:46] <Rods_Tiger> in fact, any mass storage, whether internal, or usb connected, seems to be unauthorised.
[08:47] <urlin2u> Rods_Tiger, are you in the guest account
[08:47] <Rods_Tiger> no
[08:47] <Rods_Tiger> it's a proper install, onto a usb flash drive.
[08:47] <raj-darkmystery> ubuntu 10.04 unable to boot into graphical interface, no magic from nomodeset :(
[08:47] <urlin2u> raj-darkmystery, #ubuntu
[08:48] <Rods_Tiger> so I'm in am account with my own name on
[08:48] <urlin2u> Rods_Tiger, full install or a live cd?
[08:48] <Rods_Tiger> so I'm in an account with my own name on
[08:48] <Rods_Tiger> a proper full install, with my own account with my own name
[08:48] <raj-darkmystery> urlin2u, no hep here?
[08:49] <Rods_Tiger> on an 8GB usb flash drive
[08:49] <urlin2u> raj-darkmystery, this is the development channel #ubuntu is actually more busy and the right place. :D
[08:49] <urlin2u> Rods_Tiger, full install?
[08:49] <Rods_Tiger> but it won?t read anything else - other usb drives, (flash or hard drive), or even the internal
[08:49] <Rods_Tiger> yes, it?s a proper full install with my own account in my own name
[08:50] <Rods_Tiger> on an 8GB usb flash drive
[08:51] <Rods_Tiger> in fact, I have two of them on two 8GB usb flash drives and they?re both behaving the same, unable to open another usb or internal mass storage device due to being unauthorised
[08:53] <Rods_Tiger> incidentally, neither of those 8GB proper full installed flash drives fully boot - they stop at the battery testing (even on desktops) and don?t go into the gui. I have to log in as myself and type startx, then it goes ahead. Both of them do this.
[08:53] <Rods_Tiger> I wonder if both situations are related?
[08:57] <Mamarok> hm, the last update suggests libreoffice-help-en-gb and libreoffice-|10n-en-gb, but they seem to be mutually exclusive
[09:02] <almoxarife> libreoffice dependencies were broken when I last tried to update
[09:05] <bullgard4> Mamarok: My Synaptic allows me to install libreoffice-help-en-gb but does not offer libreoffice-|10n-en-gb. Did you enable an unusual repository?
[09:07] <rbasak> Hmm, unity/compiz just crashed and swapped my workspaces around. Now windows can only be moved to the workspace right, even if it's the rightmost one
[09:12] <Mamarok> bulldog98: no, just the default ones
[09:13] <Mamarok> both are already installed, and suggested for upgrade, but if I select one the other gets removed
[09:15] <bullgard4> Mamarok: Unless there are reasons, you could disable/remove libreoffice-|10n-en-gb.
[09:17] <bullgard4> almoxarife: My libreoffice dependencies are not broken. (64-bit server)
[09:17] <Mamarok> bullgard4: well, IU am a translater and have also other languages installed, I rather remove the help :)
[09:20] <urlin2u> rbasak, compiz --replace will restart it, or a logut /
[09:20] <Mamarok> found the problem, it depends on libreoffice-common which is still in the previous version, so I will wait another day
[09:35] <bullgard4> Mamarok: From what language to what language do you translate in Ubuntu?
[09:35] <Mamarok> bullgard4: I don't translate in Ubuntu, I translate text, de <-> fr and en ->de/fr
[09:41] <bullgard4> Mamarok: I hope that you will enjoy Ubuntu, anyway.
[09:42] <Mamarok> bullgard4: oh but I do, but I use Kubuntu, since it exists :)
[09:45] <bullgard4> Mamarok: There is a difference between "I use Kubuntu, since it exists" and "I use Kubuntu since it exists". (*scnr*)
[09:48] <urlin2u> ohh pomposity
[09:51] <Mamarok> bullgard4: ditch the comma then :)
[09:52] <bullgard4> :-)
[10:08] <Rods_Tiger> what do I have to do to be able to read other usb flash devices?
[10:08] <Rods_Tiger> how do I achieve authorisation?
[10:09] <Rods_Tiger> it never used to be like this prior to oneiric.
[10:27] <Laibsch> Can somebody with at least dual-head monitor setup please verify that bug 379382 affects oneiric as well?
[10:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 379382 in gnome-utils "gnome-screenshot (Alt-Printscreen) black/blanks out top of windows in multi monitor xinerama" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379382
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[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:39] <funtime> how can I set synergyc to start at boot time so I can use it prior to login in 11.10 ?
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[11:48] <justinas> Good morning!
[11:48] <justinas> GNOME 3 freezes after login. What do I do to fix the issue?
[11:50] <justinas> Everything seems to be loading fine and then -- bam! -- I can only move mouse cursor.
[11:50] <justinas> And no controls react to it.
[11:52] <justinas> Is there anyone alive here?
[12:05] <justinas> Apparently, Ubuntu 11.10 is one big problem.
[12:05] <justinas> Nothing works whatsoever.
[12:06] <vega-> justinas: unfortunately yes
[12:08] <justinas> Is this going to be fixed in a month? :-D
[12:08] <vega-> who knows.. i'm a bit skeptical
[12:09] <vega-> for the first time i'm thinking of skipping a release during my ubuntu years ..
[12:10] <vega-> also seeing a lot of people trying out linux mint etc. or other distros
[12:11] <chand> Hi
[12:15] <BluesKaj> vega-, a lot of disillusioned gnome users are trying kde and finding it to their liking
[12:16] <justinas> I like gnome just fine. I am a loyal user. What I don't like is that they are rushing the release.
[12:16] <justinas> And the result is less than satisfactory.
[12:16] <vega-> yes, many users seems to want to stick to old habits.. i'd go with unity if it only would WORK and not crash all the time and have graphics corruption and _small_ things like that
[12:16] <justinas> I don't care about unity at all.
[12:17] <justinas> I hate that piece of software, I hate even how it looks.
[12:17] <justinas> I looks bureaucratic at best.
[12:18] <justinas> And all those small shitty things like "dash", "lenses" or whatever buzzword nonsense they are spouting is simple and unardorned goobledogock.
[12:18] <BluesKaj> I tried Unity ...wasn't my kind of desktop
[12:18] <Pici> justinas: Mind your language here please.
[12:18] <justinas> I am being considerate.
[12:18] <justinas> I was talking about Unity.
[12:18] <Pici> justinas: No, you're not.
[12:19] <vega-> yeah.. unity seems to split opinions, i just need something to start chrome, gnome-terminal and thunderbird with :) but it actually needs to do that without crashing..
[12:19] <justinas> And what is Linux Mint?
[12:20] <Trewas> I thought tablets etc touchscreen devices were an important point behind design of unity, and now they require "hover" actions to even show menus, launcher or quitting a full-screen program...
[12:21] <chand> On gnome-shell session i can't get windows border theme, seems to be an old metacity theme, i try gnome-tweak-tool there is not choise to choose shell theme
[12:21] <vega-> http://www.linuxmint.com/, based on ubuntu.. but this is not the right channel to discuss that
[12:21] <justinas> I have no doubt.
[12:22] <justinas> Actually, Ubuntu is fine. Kernel usually works out of the box, xorg and nvidia work just peachy.
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[12:23] <justinas> The problem with Ubuntu is that after each update I have to throw out like gazillion of packages that they put in their infinite wisdom.
[12:23] <justinas> :-X
[12:24] <Stanley00> Does anyone here feel that oneiric is "cooler" than natty on laptop?
[12:24] <justinas> Yes.
[12:24] <justinas> Probably kernel is better.
[12:24] <Stanley00> yep, thanks justinas.
[12:25] <jbicha> chand: you probably want to change Window theme to Adwaita
[12:25] <jbicha> and then reload GNOME Shell by either logging out and back in or just running Alt+F2 and entering r
[12:25] <BluesKaj> how long is libre-office goig to be held back ... this getting on my nerves :)
[12:25] <chand> jbicha, yes, gconf key is set to Adwaita
[12:26] <chand> jbicha, no theme choise in gnome tweak tool
[12:26] <chand> s/choice
[12:26] <jbicha> chand: shell theme is something different and you don't need it
[12:28] <chand> jbicha, i will close my session, alt+f2 don't work
[12:29] <chand> jbicha, thank you it's working, i used gnome-shell --replace
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[12:40] <justinas> Xfce4 works without so much as a hitch.
[12:41] <justinas> The only problem is that it is seriously ugly.
[12:41] <justinas> Practically like my life.
[12:43] <AnAnt> Hello, is anyone getting a gsd-a11y-keyboard icon at the bottom of gnome-shell ?
[12:52] <justinas> AnAnt: The issue is to start gnome-shell at all.
[12:53] <justinas> How did you manage that?
[12:53] <justinas> Because for me it freezes as soon as I log in.
[13:05] <AnAnt> justinas: it doesn't freeze here
[13:06] <justinas> What's your graphic card?
[13:06] <justinas> Driver?
[13:20] <justinas> KDE is an abomination.
[13:21] <justinas> It's an overgrown behemot.
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[14:18] <AnAnt> justinas: sorry for late reply: i915
[14:28] <ryan_> hello
[14:28] <ryan_> I'm using kubuntu 11.10 and every time I check for updates I get this error https://gist.github.com/1213925
[14:30] <BluesKaj> ryan_, those ppas aren't part of the regular oneiric repository , those have been added by you for downloading nondefault apps etc ...so they aren't available
[14:35] <rbasak> I've just discovered xchat-indicator. It didn't automatically install during the upgrade from natty, so xchat's notification seemed broken to me. Is there a way to fix this?
[14:36] <rbasak> Although I suppose xchat is only in universe.
[14:43] <ryan_> BluesKaj how do I remove those ppa?
[14:48] <bullgard4> What does mean "and others" in http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libreoffice-base-core: "Package: libreoffice-base-core (1:3.4.3-1ubuntu1 and others)"?
[14:51] <bjsnider> ryan_, you could remove them and their packages using ppa-purge
[14:52] <bjsnider> or you could remove them in adept
[14:53] <ryan_> bjsnider_, would it look like 'sudo ppa-purge oneiric/main'?
[14:57] <bjsnider> ryan_, no it wouldn't. i am amazed that you have these ppa sources and you're apparently unaware of why or how they got there
[14:58] <BluesKaj> ryan_,  alt+F2 , kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list.d  , then delete the 3 ppas listed there ...if you really want to get rid of them
[14:59] <BluesKaj> oops ryan_ alt+F2 , kdesudo dolphin /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:18] <froop> hi
[15:19] <froop> befor oneiric when i did a right click -> open with on a file in nautilus i had a text box where i could type in the application
[15:19] <froop> can i get that feature back?
[15:30] <gnomie> froop: file wishlist on launchpad; oneiric is past feature freeze
[15:30] <froop> damn
[15:31] <froop> i thought natty was bad but oneiric just sucks
[15:31] <jbicha> good luck convincing the nautilus developer that typing in an application is better
[15:31] <jbicha> *developers
[15:32] <gnomie> also, use the dash. once you start the app in question couple times it should start showing up as an option for 'open with other..'
[15:34] <froop> thanks, but i've had it with this gnome easy peasy bull shit
[15:34] <froop> i'll go with xfce from now on
[15:36] <jbicha> I seem to think that xfce doesn't have a lot of options either but do what you like...
[15:36] <gnomie> this is no different than how autocomplete works in browsers, where the browser predicts user input by keyword. or how email programs 'learn' what is or isn't considered spam. no one has a complaint about that ..
[15:37] <gnomie> the only way to get there is by using the system. then YOUR most common tasks become the system's most common tasks. but you have to use it first though..
[15:39] <gnomie> it's called 'design paradigm'
[15:42] <Jcook_5xData> does anyone know if 11.10 will allow for easy icon changes
[15:43] <gnomie> what's wrong with the usual way?
[15:45] <Jcook_5xData> in 11.10 I do not see how to change them appearnce has no option to modify the theme
[15:48] <gnomie> thought you were talking about changing file icons. i dont do theme modding anyway. that's a bad habit likely caused by boredom in my opinion
[15:50] <Jcook_5xData> I meant to change the default to faenza icon theme. i mean the default is fine but I like the look of faenza
[15:52] <Jcook_5xData> It use to under appearnce when you modified the theme and it not there anymore. Will a ubuntu tweaker do it?
[16:31] <genii-around> Major breakage for me on the last update
[16:33] <genii-around> Both nouveau and nvidia-current not working, looks like something in xserver
[16:34] <IdleOne> !info ure
[16:34] <ubottu> ure (source: libreoffice (1:3.4.2-2ubuntu3)): LibreOffice UNO runtime environment. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-2ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 1976 kB, installed size 7080 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 armel armhf hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc powerpcspe ppc64 s390 s390x sparc kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 all)
[16:54] <h00k> I noticed Oneiric Software Center will let you "Sync between computers." That is awesome.
[16:54] <h00k> I'd love to write up a sweet post about that
[16:54] <h00k> get it on Planet, etc.
[17:00] <jtaylor> nice, I wonder why thats hidden in the menu
[17:00] <jtaylor> no one looks in there anymore, especially since its global
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[18:14] <kristopher> Hey. Has anyone experienced difficulty in the 11.10 beta development with ICS - Internet Connection Sharing??? Just want to see if any of you have experienced the issue if and address it somewhere.
[18:17] <kristopher> Not sure if its  a known issue or not yet. But it seems the eth0 just drops and attempts to reconnect repeatedly before it reports a bug in 11.10 when setting eth0 TO ICS
[18:17] <rigved_> hi everyone. i was reading through the logs of the ubuntu app dev week on translations by dpm. i do not understand the  concept of imports and exports. specifically, i do not understand the part where your imports and exports should go to the  same branch. can anyone help?
[18:28] <ChmEarl> kristopher, what shows in `iptables -L -v -t nat` ?
[18:29] <ChmEarl> is there a dhcp host nearby?
[18:39] <thotz> i downloaded the iso image of ubuntu oneiric and installed it today but there is only writer installed
[18:43] <BluesKaj> thotz, ?
[18:44] <thotz> mhm I'll try to uninstall libreoffice and then reinstall everything
[18:49] <urlin2u> thotz, there were problems yesterday with a update that removed libreoffice, I would wait a day or so to see if this is changed, the daily would represent this build I believe.
[18:50] <thotz> ok thank you for the information urlin2u
[18:51] <urlin2u> thotz, kind of a strange glitch lol.
[18:51] <lgp171188>  Hi, I just installed oneiric beta1. After the installation, I am unable to hear the audio through my laptop speakers, but if I connect my headphones, I can hear the audio. I checked the alsamixer and master, speaker are full. there is no front. What could be the issue and how to debug it?
[18:59]  * AlanBell wonders if anyone has a few minutes to try and reproduce bug 848336
[18:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 848336 in unity (Ubuntu) "screensaver is behind the unity dash so impossible to unlock" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848336
[19:04] <knightstalker> Lets see
[19:05] <knightstalker> "screensaver to cut in and lock the screen"
[19:05] <knightstalker> ubottu,I don't have a 'screensaver' it just gets dark and then it gets locked automatically does that mean that it should be still reproduced?
[19:05] <ubottu> knightstalker: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[19:06] <knightstalker> ubottu,Okay :p
[19:06] <knightstalker> I meant AlanBell*
[19:07] <AlanBell> knightstalker: yes, that thing
[19:07] <AlanBell> the type of screensaver that actually saves the screen :)
[19:08] <AlanBell> so log in, click the dash button, go pour $beverage and wait for it to lock up
[19:08] <AlanBell> then try and get back in
[19:09] <knightstalker> AlanBell,okay,going to do that,Because Alt + Ctrl + L doesn't seem to reproduce it
[19:09] <knightstalker> It starts the black screen,Then when I press something,a window opens(with my desktop as background),And I can type the pass
[19:10] <knightstalker> but well,dash will not get closed
[19:10] <knightstalker> AlanBell,you don't have the issue with Ctrl + Alt + L do you?
[19:10]  * AlanBell tries with ctrl+alt+l
[19:16] <AlanBell> seems to be different with ctrl+alt+l
[19:17] <AlanBell> something is making my VM very unresponsive, but it isn't the same problem as when the screensaver naturally cuts in
[19:17] <w30> knightstalker, I think you have blank screen on for so much idle time in power savings setting or screensaver setttings or somewhere ....
[19:19] <w30> knightstalker, maybe suspend afer so many idle minutes
[19:20] <GTRsdk> Does #ubuntu+1 close when Oneiric is released, or will it be ready for p* p*?
[19:21] <Pici> for a short time, yes.
[19:22] <w30> GTRsdk, they  probably go on a weekend bender
[19:22] <cb___> Hey guys.
[19:24] <cb___> I've just installed 11.10 on my MBP, which I have been running 11.04 until now on. Thing is, I get "firmware missing" on the wifi card, and if i use that third-party driver app, where i usually install missing drivers, no drivers appear. I thought something went wrong on the install, so i reinstalled, but the problem persisted. I have a MBP 5,5. How do i get wifi working?
[19:26] <ChrisGagnon> cb___:  if you run "jockey-gtk" from the terminal, does it have any drivers you can activate?
[19:26] <cb___> ChrisGagnon: nope, the list is still empty.
[19:28] <cb___> ChrisGagnon: I remember seeing, on boot-up, a quick, black screen with white text, saying something like "missing firmware b43" something wifi something. That could be it right? But i wonder why its not in "jockey" in 11.10 since it has been, i believe, since 10.10, if not before.
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[19:44] <ChrisGagnon> cb___: What wifi card do you have?
[19:44] <ChrisGagnon> cb___: broadcom?
[19:45] <bjsnider> that can be checked with lspci
[19:45] <bjsnider> or lsusb if it's a usb dongle
[19:49] <cb___> ChrisGagnon: yes, broadcom
[19:49] <cb___> ChrisGagnon: broadcom bcm4322
[19:49] <cb___> ChrisGagnon: sorry the wait - had to tuck my kid in.
[19:51] <bjsnider> cb___, you need bcmwl-kernel-source installed
[19:52] <cb___> ChrisGagnon: will give it a try
[19:53] <cb___> brb - reboot
[19:56] <cb___> ChrisGagnon: Yes, that did it. Thank you
[20:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> is 11.10 using gnome 3?
[20:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> or is that not planned until after 11.10?
[20:37] <rww> TheEvilPhoenix: yes, oneiric uses GNOME 3.
[20:38] <TheEvilPhoenix> rww:  thanks.  any word yet on compatible graphics cards?
[20:39] <rww> TheEvilPhoenix: Not sure what you mean. Same as any other Ubuntu release, grab a LiveUSB and try it.
[20:39] <rww> Although I'm fortunate to not have to use closed-source graphics card silliness O:P
[20:40]  * TheEvilPhoenix was thinking more along the lines of "Will it work on Intel Mobile Graphics" chipsets
[20:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[20:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> it hasnt thusfar
[20:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> so i was curious :P
[20:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> rww:  thanks.  have a cookie.  :P
[20:40] <rww> TheEvilPhoenix: grab USB stick, grab daily ISO, dd the latt... FINE
[21:10] <FernandoMiguel> bRoas
[21:14] <nhaines> rww: then can I have your cookie?
[21:22] <FernandoMiguel> anyone used this? http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/
[21:31] <danielc> Hi there, there is an issue with the mouting of the windows partition in Oneiric that seems to affect some people.
[21:31] <danielc> After the upgrade to Oneiric, every boot I get prompted, saying that there is a grave error with my partition.
[21:32] <danielc> I must choose to ignore, skip mounting or manually fix the problem.
[21:32] <danielc> Well, there is no problem with the partition. I can mount it without problem after the boot.
[21:32] <danielc> Some people confirmed the bug in the Ubuntu forum.
[21:33] <danielc> And I've filled it on Bug #847465.
[21:33] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 847465 in mountall (Ubuntu) "ntfs partition is not mounted at boot time due to a supposedly "grave error"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/847465
[21:33] <danielc> But I'm not sure if I filled the bug againt the right package (I filled against mountall). Is this right?
[21:48] <jamespage> anyone having trouble getting anything other than Ubuntu 2D after upgrading today?
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[22:14] <tortho> Hi, have no winow frames or menu when I start ubuntu. Have to select ubuntu 2D from the login. Any hints on what can be wrong?
[22:40] <tortho> ubuntu crashed so asking the question again.
[22:41] <tortho> have no window decoration or menu if I log in to ubuntu. Have to choose ubuntu 2D to get them. Nvidia 3d acc drivers is in use.
[23:02] <Daekdroom> tortho, wait for updates
[23:03] <Daekdroom> I'm too having to use Unity-2D
[23:17] <gnomie> so nice to have docky work under opensource driver; i think there is an obscure issue with switching drivers .. everyone that has switched has encountered some issue
[23:19] <gnomie> !kernel
[23:19] <ubottu> The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)
[23:21] <syrinx_priests> Hi all... running 11.10 in a VBox with 3D acceleration enabled, yet I can only seem to get Unity 2D.  Is there a trick that anyone might be aware of?
[23:23] <syrinx_priests> I'm choosing Unity at the login screen, but 2D is what actually loads
[23:24] <gnomie> syrinx_priests: known issue; file bug or wait for next set of updates...
[23:24] <syrinx_priests> Ah, okidoki.  Thank you.
[23:27] <tortho> Daekdroom, It's been like this for the last 2/3 months :-)
[23:27] <Daekdroom> It's been like this for a day for me.