2011/09/27/#kubuntu.txt

[00:59] <ahel> how add flash to 64 bit?
[01:00] <well_laid_lawn> !flash
[01:00] <ubottu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:00] <well_laid_lawn> !flash64
[01:00] <ubottu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[01:01] <ahel> thank you well_laid_lawn
[01:01] <well_laid_lawn> np :)
[01:03] <ahel> is it not a bit outdate?
[01:04] <mark___> Could someone please help me with installing Oracle? I'm being pushed into using it instead of openJRE/JDK and have no idea how to get it.
[01:04] <mark___> Help would be much appreciated :D
[01:05] <well_laid_lawn> ahel: I don't use 64bit just know the bot command ;)
[01:05] <well_laid_lawn> !java
[01:05] <ubottu> To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://goo.gl/zwOip -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[01:05] <ahel> lol
[01:08] <russ_> anyone off hand know a good webcam software that would be simular to like apples photobooth? Like with effects and being able to not just take snaps but also record vid?
[01:09] <russ_> Kamoso works pretty cool just has no effects stuff.
[01:09] <mark___> russ_:  I don't have much experience in that area, but isn't Cheese generally what peolpe use?
[01:11] <russ_> i did forget about Cheese thanks i will see if they keep that updated thanks man
[01:11] <mark___> No problem, glad I could help :D
[01:12] <russ_> !Cheese
[01:25] <transformers> oerheks
[01:25] <transformers> where are you?
[01:27] <transformers> i need turn on 3G modem in kubuntu (MTS 3G with sim card -windows and Mac/)
[01:29] <well_laid_lawn> !info cheese | russ_
[01:29] <ubottu> russ_: cheese (source: cheese): A tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component main, is optional. Version 2.32.0-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 62 kB, installed size 260 kB
[01:31] <russ_> Thanks i installed 2.32.0 but i noticed from their Cheese website they have 3.0.2 oh well 2.32.0 works just fine thansk bro!
[01:46] <masstor> hey please idioma spanish
[01:51] <transformers> i need access to /etc how can i Edit file into /etc directory&
[01:51] <transformers> ????
[01:54] <apachelogger> russ_: you might wanna check out kamoso btw
[01:55] <russ_> apachelogger: [20:09:12] <russ_> Kamoso works pretty cool just has no effects stuff.
[01:55] <apachelogger> yeah, I think that was on the todo... at some point anyway ^^
[01:56] <russ_> Thanks i tryed that its cool just no effects Cheese is really good sucks though when i did sudo apt-get cheese it installed only 2.32.0 of Cheese and from the Cheese website they already have 3.0.2 so humm im trying to think of how to upgrade Cheese or can you not?
[01:57] <apachelogger> you might be able if the newer version is in some PPA ... that said, the reason the new version is not available is because changing to new versions has all sorts of dangers
[01:59] <russ_> yeah i would assume,it realy talks more about it working in Gnome 3 but hell i run KDE 4 so i didnt read anything where Cheese 3 works in KDE 4
[02:00] <russ_> It's like the Cheese guys all go for Gnome only
[02:01] <apachelogger> well, it primarily targets the gnome workspace
[02:03] <russ_> gotcha
[02:03] <russ_> i am pretty sure i can boot into  gnome im sure its already installed i just love KDE :)
[02:04] <OerHeks> oneiric will have cheese 3.02 > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese
[02:11] <HizMonster> Will Kubuntu start to push some kind of junky GUI (Unity) on it's users soon ?
[02:11] <russ_> OerHeks: thanks
[02:13] <OerHeks> no, Unity has nothing to do with KDe
[02:14] <HizMonster> OerHeks: Perhaps then I will switch over to Kubuntu on the next release then.  I can't stand unity and I heard they are taking out 'ubuntu-classic' in the next release.
[02:16] <OerHeks> unity is the best thing happened to KDE
[02:16] <HizMonster> Is there anything big I'd miss using the Kubuntu LTS vs 11.04 or 11.10 when it's released ?
[02:19] <OerHeks> HizMonster, not really, i think
[02:19] <Daskreech> HizMonster: Hmm?
[02:19] <Daskreech> HizMonster: Ubuntu is Canonical Kubuntu isn't for the most part
[02:20] <Daskreech> And yes as far as I know they are removing Ubuntu classic from the CD but you can still install it
[02:54] <littlegirl> Hey there, I use Kubuntu Lucid Lynx and it comes with Ark as the compression program. When I compress somthing that has an extension, it creates file.extension.zip. I can't find a way to configure it from within the program. Is there a configuration file where I can tell it that I'd rather not have the original extension in the final zip file name?
[03:48] <Daskreech> littlegirl: Hello?
[03:49] <littlegirl> Hey there, sorry. I got caught up with other things and totally forgot I had written something in hre!
[03:51] <Daskreech> ok :)
[03:51] <Daskreech>  still looking for an answer?
[03:51] <littlegirl> Yes, please. (:
[03:52] <Daskreech> Ok Let me look :)
[03:52] <littlegirl> Cool, thanks. (:
[03:53] <g0rs> Daskreech: what does your nickname mean?
[03:53] <g0rs> you were on this channel for a whle.
[03:54] <Daskreech> g0rs: What do you mean?
[03:54] <g0rs> Daskreech: does your user id mean anything?
[03:54] <Daskreech> Not in particular
[03:57] <chinatown2> hi
[03:57] <g0rs> i wanted to have a nickname something with das but after i saw you i had to pick another :)
[03:58] <chinatown2> vord
[03:58] <Daskreech> g0rs: Ha I'm not that chatty in here anymore
[03:58] <chinatown2> verd
[03:59] <g0rs> me neither but but i used to long time ago
[03:59] <Daskreech> Take it and just speak more than me and it will be fine
[04:00] <Daskreech> g0rs: Oh if it was that long ago I don't blame you I was super actiev then
[04:00] <g0rs> Daskreech: now, it seems like lof of people are not talking about interesting topics. IRC is not what it used be 10 or 15 years ago .
[04:00] <Daskreech> :)
[04:00] <g0rs> :)
[04:00] <Daskreech> What would be interesting
[04:01] <g0rs> Daskreech: it would be about technology as in creating technology. programming hardcore stuff or something to do with networking etc. Now , people 'use' technology and think that they're smarter than everybody else.
[04:02] <g0rs> and they're not that interesting
[04:02] <Daskreech> g0rs: Then you are in the wrong channels
[04:02] <Daskreech> this is an end user channel :)
[04:03] <g0rs> Daskreech: this is an end user channe and it is very useful for users of ubuntu and its variants
[04:03] <Daskreech> littlegirl: You are making an archive with one file in it?
[04:04] <Daskreech> g0rs: You should check out some of the more hardcore channels for that kind of lowlevel talk
[04:04] <g0rs> Daskreech: do you know any good channels on this server?
[04:04] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Yep, I right-click and select Compress --> As zip archive from the menu. (:
[04:04] <Daskreech> littlegirl: Ah ok
[04:04] <Daskreech> Let metry
[04:05] <littlegirl> Daskreech: My reason for wanting to change the behavior is that when I email file.extension.zip to someone, some email servers consider the file dangerous and won't let it through, so I'd rathr email file.zip, and instead of renaming them manually it would be nice to just have a quick chat with Ark. (:
[04:05]  * littlegirl must fix the e key. (:
[04:05] <Daskreech> g0rs: depends on your interest but #freenode is a good place to hang out if you want to ask about the channels
[04:06] <g0rs> Daskreech: i used to be on efnet and dalnet sometime ago . Freenode is rather newer
[04:06] <Daskreech> littlegirl: What would you consider as "some email servers" ?
[04:06] <Daskreech> If you mean Google then they unzip the file and check it's contents in any case so renaming it won't make a difference
[04:06] <littlegirl> Daskreech: None that I know of specifically. I just know that I've sometimes had trouble emailing file.extension.zip.
[04:06] <Daskreech> g0rs: efnet is also a pretty good server
[04:06] <littlegirl> Daskreech: I believe it's at the receiving end. No idea. (:
[04:08] <Daskreech> Hrrrm
[04:09] <g0rs> I'm joining efnet too
[04:12] <Daskreech> littlegirl: ok just on some quick tests if I choose compress to .. then it doesn't add the .extension
[04:16] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Ah, but that makes me do manual work, in which case I may just as well rename them manually. (:
[04:16] <littlegirl> Daskreech: No config setting I can just turn a zero into a one or the other way around?
[04:16] <Daskreech> littlegirl: slightly less work than renaming
[04:16] <Daskreech> littlegirl: Possibly I haven't looked that deep yet
[04:17] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Me neither. I'll hunt for it, too. (:
[04:17]  * Daskreech would have to troll through ~/.kde/share/config/arkrc
[04:17]  * littlegirl has proceeded to troll. (:
[04:18] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Nope, it's tiny, and no mention of extensions. Hmmm...
[04:19] <Daskreech> Yeah I think tis some default code
[04:19] <Daskreech> I'll see if there is a bug for it
[04:21] <Daskreech> littlegirl: not seeing one I'll file a bug for that option
[04:22] <Daskreech> I'll give you the link so you can subscribe if anything
[04:22] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Thanks. I'm reading the manual for Ark to see if there's something I missed.
[04:23] <Daskreech> I don't think there is.
[04:23] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Yeah, there doesn't seem to be a way to configure it from within the program at all. ):
[04:24] <Daskreech> I'm aware
[04:24] <littlegirl> Daskreech: It's nothing major - just a niggling little missing feature. (:
[04:24] <Daskreech> littlegirl: Could I have your ark version?
[04:24] <Daskreech> littlegirl: I've flagged it as niggling :)
[04:24] <littlegirl> Daskreech: 2.14
[04:25] <littlegirl> Daskreech: LOL, you didn't really, did you? (:
[04:25] <Daskreech> I did!
[04:25] <littlegirl> LOL
[04:25] <Daskreech> ok I'll post it as 2.17 which is what I'm using
[04:25] <littlegirl> Daskreech: I use the Kubuntu LTS, so I'm a bit behind on some of the versions that are probably available in the more recent releases of Kubuntu. (:
[04:26] <Daskreech> hence why I'll use mine.
[04:26] <Daskreech> So it doesn't get bumped into by triagers and dismissed as apfffft what version? Pffffffft
[04:26] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Once you have the bug report filed, would it help for me to log on and confirm that I see it, too?
[04:27] <littlegirl> Daskreech: They really shouldn't do that, though. They should take any bug that's reported for an old version and try to duplicate it in the current one. (:
[04:28] <Daskreech> littlegirl: I know but time is limited so they tend to test out bugs reported for newer versions since it's much more likely that you can replicate it
[04:28] <Daskreech> every now and again they have a huge BugSquad meeting one weekend and go through lots of older bugs to see if they can replicate them
[04:28] <littlegirl> Daskreech: That's a shame, especially when peopl like me report bugs. I always give step-by-step instructions on what they have to do to see it. (:
[04:29] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Good, then at least they do sometimes try to get at those.
[04:29] <Daskreech> For which they will kiss your feet and buy you beer when they meet you
[04:29] <Daskreech> most bugs are of the order of "I want this where is it?"
[04:30] <littlegirl> Daskreech: I'm also a developer on a far smaller scale than Kubuntu, so I know the feeling. (:
[04:30] <Daskreech> Umm. Did you try pressing this button that gives you that? What version are you on? Is it a problem specific to you that we can't replicate unless we are on your hardware? or perhaps doing what you are doing?
[04:30] <Daskreech> two weeks of wasted effort later ........
[04:30] <littlegirl> LOL
[04:31] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Although I would love to have someone point out a tiny little button that I overlooked that magically solves my issue. (:
[04:31] <Daskreech> littlegirl: would be great wouldn't it?
[04:32] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Sure! I think every program should have a magical Fix Anything button somewhere on the main interface. (:
[04:32] <Daskreech> Or should be like GNOME the Final edition
[04:33] <Daskreech> Where the entire interface is one button that does the sane default thing and accomplishes all tasks
[04:33] <littlegirl> LOL
[04:33] <littlegirl> Daskreech: And twenty years from now you don't even have to push a button - just think it and it happens. (:
[04:37] <Daskreech> littlegirl: Too much work
[04:38] <Daskreech> Have the cloud think for you!
[04:38] <Daskreech> Right g0rs? :)
[04:38] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Hehe
[04:39] <g0rs> Daskreech: that is really freaky :(
[04:39] <g0rs> Daskreech: the cloud is bad .. very bad ....he is a freak
[04:40] <g0rs> Daskreech: i heard he moved to a university
[04:40] <g0rs> are you talking aout bob?
[04:41] <g0rs> are you talking about bob and the it guy?
[04:41] <Daskreech> g0rs: ha ha no we were just laughing about how much easier computing should get
[04:41] <Daskreech> From having buttons in your application that does all the little things that you want
[04:41] <littlegirl> And that life would be wonderful all the time. (:
[04:41] <Daskreech> to having one button that does everything that you want
[04:42] <Daskreech> to thinking about it and it happening
[04:42] <littlegirl> That's right - it should read your mind and fulfill your wishs. (:
[04:42] <g0rs> Daskreech: computing isnt really easy but there are too many solutions available which makes everybody lazy to some extent.
[04:42] <Daskreech> But that sounds like too much work. Offload the thinking elsewhere!
[04:42] <littlegirl> LOL
[04:42] <Daskreech> g0rs: agreed but if you look there are problems
[04:42] <Daskreech>  have you seen the Simon project?
[04:42] <russ_> Happy 13 years to Google :) now thats a reason to drink!
[04:43] <g0rs> Daskreech: there are probems , agreed and there are also too many problems to solve. each problem can be a business idea.
[04:43] <Daskreech> g0rs: Simon is curently tackling using voice to control the computer as an interface
[04:43] <Daskreech> It's surprisingly well done
[04:44] <Daskreech> but still in need of expertise of course
[04:44] <russ_> like Dragon naturaly Speaking
[04:44] <g0rs> Daskreech: That is interesting. I would like to see that with a car. VW in wolfsburg  is using brain waves too to control cars
[04:44] <Daskreech> russ_: No that's a dictation
[04:44] <g0rs> Daskreech: i know dragon which is a voice activated sw
[04:44] <Daskreech> russ_: This is more like open ark and create an archive from these files
[04:44] <Daskreech>  Now open Mail and compose a mail to this person
[04:44] <russ_> ohh
[04:45] <Daskreech> attach the archive I just made
[04:45] <russ_> i see humm interesting
[04:45] <Daskreech> g0rs: Brainwaves as an interface is actualyl pretty old. It's just not ... lets say precise or fast
[04:46] <g0rs> Daskreech: i was thinking how events are happening while i was thinkng about them. Its like somebody is scanning my brain perhaps with a satellite :D
[04:47] <russ_> Jason Becker is a famous guitarist he cant use anything with his body only eyes and mouth movements he writes music and composes music with his computer with some kinda software that allows your eyes to control the computer thats pretty wild wish i knew what software he uses.
[04:47] <g0rs> Daskreech: but it can be dangerous too , if actuators react too fast according to our thoughts , we might lost contorl
[04:47] <Daskreech> littlegirl: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282884
[04:47] <ubottu> KDE bug 282884 in general "There are no options to manage how file extensions are handled in Archive names" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]
[04:48] <Daskreech> russ_: I know that one as well
[04:48] <Daskreech> It's a mouse bridge with an on screen keyboard
[04:48] <russ_> so a camera just reads his eyes?
[04:48] <Daskreech> g0rs: We are always out of control :)
[04:48] <Daskreech> russ_: Right and then blinks or mouth pressure acts as clicks and double clicks
[04:49] <russ_> nice!
[04:49] <russ_> is is linux based?
[04:49] <Daskreech> doubtful
[04:50] <Daskreech> it's one of those things that would need someone to make it on Linux but the people most motivated are the least likely to develop it
[04:50] <g0rs> Daskreech: its like somebody is trying to control and micromanage every aspect of me :)
[04:50] <Daskreech> Sort of like good music software
[04:50] <russ_> yeah im sure
[04:50] <Daskreech> g0rs: Hopefully that's you :)
[04:50] <g0rs> Daskreech: i dont have an alter ego who is trying to control me :P
[04:51] <Daskreech> Sort of why there are 44 dozen IDEs on Linux but an architect software?
[04:51] <g0rs> it must be somebody else
[04:51] <russ_> pretty interesting i googled control mouse with eyes
[04:51] <Daskreech> g0rs: ./configure --prefix=/home/alter; make; make me install
[04:51] <russ_> http://www.smivision.com/en/gaze-and-eye-tracking-systems/applications/gaze-based-interaction.html?gclid=CLX-uq_QvKsCFYrs7QodAGbXtA
[04:54] <Daskreech> russ_: It's surprisingly widely used
[04:54] <Daskreech> For heatmaps and so on
[04:55] <russ_> i love things like this.
[04:55] <russ_> i remeber when retinal scanners and even finger print scanners just came into play and now you can just buy them at bestbuy lol
[04:55] <Daskreech> russ_: http://simon-listens.org/index.php?id=122&L=1
[04:56] <littlegirl> Daskreech: Thanks! I'll add to it in a little while. I'm running some tests on something right now. (:
[04:56] <Daskreech> Muwahahaha
[04:56] <Daskreech> Sorry I do evil laughs anytime there are tests
[04:57] <russ_> Daskreech: cool i will save that link
[04:59] <littlegirl> LOL
[05:01] <g0rs> littlegirl: anytime a person says LOL i would think that they're little :)
[05:03] <Daskreech> laughing out loud is not limited to short people!
[05:03]  * Daskreech defends his right to lol!
[05:05]  * g0rs doesn't say anything
[05:07] <Daskreech> :)
[05:10] <littlegirl> g0rs: I see.
[05:10]  * littlegirl LOLs
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[07:35] <eean> from cron I get "No MTA installed, discarding output"
[07:35] <eean> in the syslog
[07:35] <eean> I want to get that output
[07:36] <eean> I actually do have a /usr/bin/sendmail (just a symlink to msmtp)
[07:52] <iDanielSan> why is CairoDock always starting twice on my Kubuntu 10.04?
[07:53] <iDanielSan> kinda anoying
[07:55] <iDanielSan> no ideas?
[07:57] <szal> no patience?
[08:04] <mime1111> hello ppl! anyone knows if there is an equivalent in KDE for the gnome-settings-daemon?
[08:05] <eean> maybe kded. not really sure what gnome-settings-daemond oes
[08:05] <eean> *does
[08:06] <mime1111> thnx. it change the gtk windows theme, apply x11 cursors, and change some icons
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[08:12] <szal> !pm | iDanielSan
[08:12] <ubottu> iDanielSan: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.
[09:41] <ram___> I am using backtrack 5, Is it possible to install it on a pendrive ?
[09:55] <szal> ram19890: first of all, this is the wrong place to ask; we don't support BackTrack here
[09:56] <ram19890> szal: I am a user of Kubuntu, Its a question , not a user daa..
[09:57] <szal> ram19890: BackTrack != *buntu
[09:57] <szal> being based on it does not make it that
[09:58] <ram19890> szal , I am reframing the question again , is it possible to get Ubuntu or waht ever you say on a pendrive ?
[10:00] <ram19890> I have a persistant linux , before , thats y I am asking , no offence ?
[10:08] <ram19890> sudo
[10:30] <iDanielSan> @ram19890: sure u can have a bootable pendrive with ubuntu
[10:30] <iDanielSan> on it
[10:31] <iDanielSan> use the Startup Disk Creater
[10:31] <ram19890> ok where will be the grub ?
[10:32] <iDanielSan> or UNetbotin
[10:32] <ram19890> thanks
[10:32] <ram19890> i will try then :D
[10:32] <iDanielSan> gud luck
[11:03] <Valks> !ops
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[11:12] <rafytafy> anyone here upgraded via kpkgkit lucid> natty? if so how did it go
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[11:31] <tonymc> is there finally an easy way to enable password-less samba shares?
[11:32] <tonymc> i mean not involving commandline
[11:46] <evanvarvell> hi all
[11:56] <evanvarvell> why did kdewallet disable my wlan card????
[11:58] <evanvarvell> is there anyone here that can speak?
[11:59] <evanvarvell> does linux have available to its communities intel wireless drivers?
[11:59] <tonymc> IIRC they should work out of the box
[12:00] <tonymc> as for kwallet, you probably pressed "cancel" or input a wrong password
[12:00] <evanvarvell> \well i could put vista back on my labtop
[12:00] <tonymc> it wouldn't disable your wlan card though
[12:00] <evanvarvell> i hit cancel
[12:00] <BlaXpirit> What about Jockey? It installed wlan driver nicely for me.
[12:00] <evanvarvell> i don't like saving passwords
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[12:01] <tonymc> i think there was a tick for not saving the password
[12:01] <tonymc> no there wasn't
[12:02] <tonymc> but anyway, what is wrong with saving passwords?
[12:02] <evanvarvell> but even after i put a password in kde wallet as a default incripted security place holder for passwords...........................it disabled my wlan
[12:03] <tonymc> you can reenable it in network manager applet
[12:03] <evanvarvell> it would no longer see my wireless network ssid names
[12:03] <tonymc> tried pressing "more"?
[12:03] <evanvarvell> saying the wlan card was unavailable
[12:04] <tonymc> that's odd
[12:04] <tonymc> i'm not really familiar with wireless troubleshooting as i've never had any problems with it in the first place
[12:04] <tonymc> but you may try rebooting
[12:05] <tonymc> i know it's a windows way but i don't remember the exact commandline for restarting the networking daemons
[12:05] <tonymc> you might try "sudo service networking restart" though
[12:06] <evanvarvell> ok thank you fot the info
[12:06] <evanvarvell> for
[12:06] <tonymc> in the future try not to interfere with kwallet :-)
[12:07] <tonymc> if you do decide to put windows back on your laptop - i'd advice for windows 7 instead of vista
[12:08] <evanvarvell> why is that?
[12:08] <tonymc> it's what vista should have been
[12:08] <tonymc> vista done right, in other words
[12:08] <evanvarvell> do you know how much requirements is different between vista and windows 7?
[12:08] <tonymc> it's almost the same, only way faster
[12:09] <tonymc> no i don't
[12:09] <Alantas> I still think it would've been cool if they'd called it "Vista SE".
[12:09] <tonymc> i've seen windows 7 running on a netbook pretty snappily - that kinda speaks for itself
[12:09] <tonymc> vista won't even boot until five minutes later
[12:10] <tonymc> well that's an exaggeration but you get the point
[12:10] <OerHeks> i would install windows95 since there are no 16 bit virusses, but this is going offtopic
[12:10] <tonymc> i myself quad boot with two kubuntu's and two windows 7's
[12:12] <tonymc> evanvarvell anyway, are you trying to make your kubuntu work right now? maybe we can help get things running
[12:13] <evanvarvell> oh my goodness...................i have just woken uop..........................my minds not in tech mode............................let me get coffee in me first
[12:13] <tonymc> OerHeks i've tried that mysql vulnerability today on my machine - the virus successfully loaded and launched (latest firefox 6)... under wine. i'm reconsidering the idea of keeping a wine installation around
[12:14] <evanvarvell> first time used quassel.....................nice and open for text..........good for chat
[12:15] <evanvarvell> i will be back later after my coffee fill
[12:15] <evanvarvell> or energy drink fill
[12:15] <tonymc> evanvarvell i liked konversation more than quassel... until i found out about what quassel can do. now i have quassel running on my server machine and never offline from IRC, haha
[12:18] <evanvarvell> how can i be sure that kde wallet is secure place for passwords?
[12:18] <tonymc> evanvarvell it is secure. it's encrypted, you can't open it without the right password.
[12:19] <tonymc> if you lose your passwords - you lose your wallet. no "password reset" feature.
[12:19] <evanvarvell> bbl
[12:19] <tonymc> of course, having a weak password means weaker security, but that's not kwallet's fault anyway
[12:20] <tonymc> kwallet daemon controls applications' access to kwallet, so if something is trying to access it - it notifies you
[12:21] <tonymc> of course it's still possible to make another application do whatever you want (e.g. buffer overflows) but i counter that with an option to close the wallet after 10 minutes of inactivity. thus next time a program asks for passwords, it asks me even if it had asked for passwords before.
[12:21] <tonymc> so kwallet is pretty well secure.
[12:22] <evanvarvell> afk
[12:29] <blwesse> hello....
[12:30] <tonymc> hi
[12:30] <blwesse> do you know how to download counterstrike:source in playonlinux?
[12:30] <tonymc> sorry, no idea
[12:31] <blwesse> - -
[12:31] <tonymc> but maybe google can helpo
[12:31] <tonymc> let me see
[12:32] <blwesse> all right..
[12:32] <tonymc> i'm not familiar with playonlinux (i don't play games under linux) and not really familiar with CS:S also... so sorry i can't be of any help
[12:33] <tonymc> the playonlinux website though says that there's a script
[12:33] <blwesse> thanks
[12:35] <OerHeks> you need to buy CS, the script will help install.
[12:48] <clyde> hello
[12:50] <clyde> bonjour allee
[12:50] <blwesse> ?
[12:51] <clyde> VIVE LA FRANCE
[12:52] <blwesse> hello,everyone.
[13:03] <blwesse> I want to chat..
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[13:32] <AlexZion> I guys ..., since few days I got a little problem on Kubutnu 11.04 with kde 4.7..., quite randomly the KDM crashes and I'm send back to the login screen , of course losing everything I 'didnt save for a while.......
[13:33] <AlexZion> I heard on the Italian channel that some other people has the same problem ...., so someone knows where the problem is ?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:36] <AlexZion> the only things I can get is "X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly"
[13:43] <avihay> happened to me once, didn't find anything informative in the logs :-<
[14:03] <rvb> hello may i ask if there is a command line email client for kubuntu?
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[14:35] <yoga> !upgrade
[14:35] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
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[15:14] <phoenix_firebrd> what is the advantage of using chromium over chrom is ubuntu?
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[15:35] <jtheuer> hi, any idea how I can start an ssh-agent inside an ssh session "ssh user@host mycommands.sh" where mycommands shall password-less connect to another ssh host ...
[15:40] <BluesKaj> jtheuer, the other host has to have the the same public/private rsa key pair on the target ssh host.
[15:41] <BluesKaj> oops , didn't mean to repeat myself there '
[15:42] <BluesKaj> jtheuer, this might help, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/3-steps-to-perform-ssh-login-without-password-using-ssh-keygen-ssh-copy-id/
[15:50] <jtheuer> BluesKaj: they don't have the same public/private key but I can copy the key to the intermediate host in advance
[15:51] <jtheuer> thanks for the link!
[16:02] <i1920x1080> everytime I boot up and enter the desktop for the first time, satan comes out of my speakers and hisses horribly at me during the startup sound... what the hell is going on? God wants to know. By the way, once this is over with, all sounds appear to be normal.
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[16:20] <HipHansiFlo> *Wo bin ich alles hier gelandet*
[16:23] <HipHansiFlo> wer ist alles deutsch?
[16:31] <DarthFrog>  !de
[16:31] <ubottu> In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!
[16:32] <HipHansiFlo> !fr
[16:32] <ubottu> Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[16:32] <HipHansiFlo> super thx :D
[16:41] <adwait_sharma> can someone suggest me any good ocr ?
[16:41] <adwait_sharma> to convert pdf to html
[16:41] <Peace-> mm
[16:41] <Peace-> adwait_sharma: it's a starndard pdf ?
[16:42] <adwait_sharma> Peace:yes
[16:42] <Peace-> adwait_sharma: i mean you can open it with okular?
[16:42] <Peace-> adwait_sharma: so open that with okular ... and try to search one word
[16:42] <Peace-> if the pdf it's a real pdf file you can convert it to html
[16:42] <Peace-> withoput ocr
[16:42] <adwait_sharma> Peace:let me try :)
[16:45] <evanvarvell> ..
[17:07] <pythonsnake> Hello
[17:07] <Peace-> hi
[17:07] <pythonsnake> Is there any good firewall gui ?
[17:07] <Peace-> of course
[17:07] <pythonsnake> maybe iptables front end ?
[17:07] <Peace-> easy or complex?
[17:07] <Peace-> of course
[17:07] <pythonsnake> feature complete.. complex?
[17:07] <pythonsnake> :-)
[17:08] <Peace-> ok i will link to my blog there is the easy and the complex
[17:08] <Peace-> then you will choose
[17:08] <Peace-> pythonsnake: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/easy-firewall-for-kde4-kubuntu/
[17:08] <Peace-> pythonsnake: complex http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/firewall-for-kde4/
[17:09] <pythonsnake> nice blog!
[17:09] <Peace-> pythonsnake:   i will suggest the first one btw
[17:09] <pythonsnake> second one is _too_ complicated?
[17:10] <Peace-> pythonsnake: well for me yes ... look at the youtube tutorial for the secondo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UJb6BuJtzA&feature=player_embedded
[17:11] <pythonsnake> It's sad that all other firewalls are outdated..
[17:11] <Peace-> the first one for me is ok
[17:11] <Peace-> pythonsnake: btw have you a router?
[17:11] <pythonsnake> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/UFW+KControl+Module?content=137789 ?
[17:11] <pythonsnake> Peace-: Yes
[17:11] <Peace-> pythonsnake: well if you have a router you don't need of a firewall
[17:12] <Peace-> just use the router that has an integrated firewall built in
[17:12] <pythonsnake> something like that ? http://tomsk.wstream.ru/karta/bz/huawei800.jpg
[17:12] <pythonsnake> yes
[17:13] <Peace-> pythonsnake: to go into your router you need in my case : open the browser and type 192.168.0.1
[17:13] <pythonsnake> after?
[17:13] <Peace-> then there should be an interface of your router
[17:13] <Peace-> pythonsnake: for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvzFHHDvU8E
[17:13] <pythonsnake> BRB
[17:19] <pythonsnake> Back, Peace-
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[17:23] <Peace-> pythonsnake: hola
[17:23] <pythonsnake> que tal?
[17:23] <Peace-> pythonsnake: well i am italian ... that was like hi
[17:23] <pythonsnake> bonjourno :-)
[17:24] <pythonsnake> or
[17:24] <pythonsnake> ciao
[17:24] <Peace-> ok, i am sorry but... this si an official channel to support kubuntu so...
[17:24] <Peace-> we must be serious
[17:25] <Peace-> have you resolved your problems ?
[17:26] <pythonsnake> not yet
[17:26] <pythonsnake> Peace-: you recommend that one ? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/UFW+KControl+Module?content=137789
[17:27] <Peace-> pythonsnake: yes
[17:30] <ahel> jokey-kde has crashed while removing fglrx. now i cannot login anymore
[17:31] <Peace-> wow
[17:31] <Peace-> ahel: lsb_release -a
[17:31] <pythonsnake> Peace-: Thank you
[17:32] <pythonsnake> ahel: uname -a
[17:32] <Peace-> y r welcome
[17:32] <ahel> beta2
[17:32] <Peace-> ahel: oh well it's a beta man...
[17:32] <pythonsnake> ahel: #ubuntu+1
[17:32] <Peace-> ahel: you need to remove the drivers...
[17:32] <Peace-> ahel: then reinstall the old drivers...
[17:32] <Peace-> and login
[17:32] <Peace-> !ati
[17:32] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[17:33] <ahel> yeah i know, but maybe you could tell me what's the name for ¬fglrx
[17:33] <Peace-> ahel: i don't know i have intel
[17:33] <Peace-> ahel: btw should be in the wiki
[17:34] <ahel> eheh you have showed me the wiki page. it's enought! ty Peace-
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[18:11] <oal_> When I press vol up and vol down on my keyboard, nothing changes, only when I change Master F in Alsamixer, I can change sound volume. What's wrong?
[18:12] <oal_> It has happened before, but I can't remember how I fixed it
[18:15] <Peace-> oal_: ?
[18:15] <oal_> Peace-: The volume "display" shows that the volume goes up and down, but it doesn't change
[18:16] <BluesKaj> oal_, I've been wondering about that myself since karmic .
[18:16] <oal_> BluesKaj: Insanely annoying
[18:16] <Peace-> oal_: well it seems a bad configuration
[18:16] <Peace-> of your audio driver
[18:16] <Peace-> lspci | grep -i audio
[18:17] <OerHeks> sound-level tru keyboard works fine her
[18:17] <oal_> Peace-: http://dpaste.com/622105/
[18:17] <oal_> OerHeks: yes, it worked yesterday, but not today.
[18:18] <Peace-> oal_: alsamixer -V all
[18:18] <Peace-> pres F6
[18:18] <Peace-> select a audio card
[18:18] <Peace-> i guess it's your nvidia the best
[18:18] <Peace-> and test
[18:18] <oal_> Only the intel one shows any bars
[18:19] <Peace-> ok
[18:19] <oal_> And none of the bars move when I use my keyboard volume controls
[18:19] <Peace-> wait i am programming and reading and and and
[18:20] <BluesKaj> oal_, try the arrow keys
[18:20] <oal_> BluesKaj: that works when "Master F" is selected
[18:21] <oal_> But I have to go. Highlight me if someone know the answer, please :)
[18:21] <Peace-> oal_: basically you need to edit a config file
[18:21] <Peace-> and try some stuff
[18:22] <Peace-> oal_: try to read this i have no time right now sorry :( http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/kubuntu-audio-card-that-doesnt-work/
[18:22] <Peace-> BluesKaj: bye
[18:31] <pythonsnake> hi
[18:33] <odo2063> hi, i've tried to install kubuntu on my amd e350 board(with uefi), but it seems to lose the connection to the cdimage(usb-stick/usb-cdrom) at boot time.
[18:42] <afief> How can I upgrade my ubuntu 11.04 to 10.10 beta?
[18:44] <genii-around> afief: We do not encourage going to a pre-release distribution. But if you feel you must: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
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[19:05] <neil__> I'm trying to search a remote server via ftp in Dolphin, but find still just searches my computer. Are there more search options anywhere?
[19:14] <odo2063> for everyone interrested in my problem. the board seems to turn off and on some usbports during start so using an other port works for the usb-cdrom-drive
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[19:23] <BarkingFish> erm guys, you might want to watch a user called GreenEqualizer - randomly PM'ing people with a supposed link to a facebook page - I'm not touching this one with a bargepole, he's going straight on ignore.  He's currently in defocus and pm'd me the second i logged in.
[19:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> BarkingFish:  he PM'd me too
[19:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> he's not given me the link though
[19:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> i'd report it to staff if it becomes too annoying.
[19:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> considering he's already tried twice to do that to me
[19:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> and failed
[19:25] <BarkingFish> oh sheds, wrong channel for my message. I meant to send that to #freenode
[19:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> BarkingFish:  you have failed :P
[19:26] <BarkingFish> yeah, my mind's elsewhere at the moment. I'm having issues building a kernel module I desperately need to get working.
[19:27] <TheEvilPhoenix> BarkingFish:  i see
[19:27] <BarkingFish> I've had no joy with the ipaq.ko module that came with 2.6.38-11-generic, so I got hold of the module code and rebuilt it fresh, including the USBID for my ipaq model which wasn't listed.
[19:28] <BarkingFish> Now, the module built and generated properly, modinfo can read it, but it won't insmod.
[19:28] <BarkingFish> I get an error from it:  FATAL: Cannot insert /home/thor/Downloads/ipaqsrc/ipaq.ko - Unknown symbol in module (-1)
[19:31] <BarkingFish> I'm just wondering what I might have done wrong, since I need the module to work so my iPAQ 1950 (03f0:1c1d) will pick up and sync with my pc.
[19:32] <tiago_> I remove the libgcrypt package which had some dependencies which were also removed. Now i only have access to the CLI and have managed to mount the iso of ubuntu (i don't own a cd). I can't access the internet, so I can't get the missing packages. Is it possible to retrieve them from the mounted iso?
[19:33] <BarkingFish> tiago_, If it's ubuntu, and not kubuntu, you're in the wrong channel :)
[19:33] <BarkingFish> try #ubuntu for some help!
[19:35] <tiago_> ok thanks.
[19:37] <avihay> tiago_: sudo mount -ro loop ./CD1.iso /media/cdrom0
[19:37] <odo2063> is there still the "toram" option in 11.04? and if "yes", howto use it?
[19:37] <avihay> tiago_: woops, you need something else
[19:39] <well_laid_lawn> tiago_: the packages should still be in /var/cache/apt afaik
[19:39] <avihay> tiago_: try man apt-cdrom
[19:41] <tiago_> well_laid_lawn: how do i get them running? when i try to do dpkg it just tries to find the packages on the internet
[19:42] <tiago_> avihay: thanks i'll take a look
[19:42] <well_laid_lawn> tiago_: you need to give the pathto the file
[19:43] <tiago_> i see, that will probably work
[19:45] <avihay> or just look at the disk, the packges are there in normal deb files
[19:54] <alex___> hi guys I just installed the beta2 ofkubuntu 11.10 , and i was wondering about the package manager ..., what's up , I mean ....,in the newone are still missing alot of usefull future if I don't mistake ....
[19:54] <well_laid_lawn> !11.10
[19:54] <ubottu> Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[19:55] <pythonsnake> Hi
[19:55] <OerHeks> not all packages are ready, or shall return in gnome3
[19:55] <pythonsnake> Where can I set dns servers
[19:55] <pythonsnake> secondary primary
[19:56] <well_laid_lawn> pythonsnake: there's the various network managers or /etc/resolv.conf iirc
[19:57] <pythonsnake> well_laid_lawn: what is default network manager
[19:59] <well_laid_lawn> isn't it networkmanager - I run a very minimal setup
[19:59] <OerHeks> it's on your panel, right below next to the clock
[20:00] <pythonsnake> got it
[20:00] <pythonsnake> but no primary or secondary dns
[20:02] <OerHeks> dns1,dns2,dns3,dns4 ?
[20:03] <pythonsnake> yes
[20:05] <OerHeks> 1.1.1.1,2.2.2.2,4.4.4.4 etc
[20:05] <pythonsnake> cool
[20:05] <OerHeks> the [...] button next to it, wil open a menu to add dns servers, result is the same
[20:06] <pythonsnake> Why this FloodBot mess :/
[20:06] <pythonsnake> OerHeks: /etc/resolv.conf winned
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[20:52] <Alantas> Screensavers. How do I prevent it from shutting the monitor off? There doesn't appear to be an option to that effect. (This is KDE 4.4.5 and I distinctly remember having the Clock screensaver there (in KDE 3.2.3) when I woke up, for many years.)
[21:31] <avihay> finaly, repository has binary versions of kde 4.7.1
[21:33] <OerHeks> backports ?
[21:35] <avihay> I think, didn't check
[21:35] <avihay> yes, backports
[21:36] <uberdub> Any one want to take a stab at why my wifi driver is finicky? Its either that or the card itself is faulty
[21:36] <uberdub> http://pastebin.com/975hdWH1
[21:36] <uberdub> atheros ath9k driver
[21:37] <avihay> did you try looking in google if others are haveing the same issue?
[21:37] <uberdub> yes, ive googled it to no end
[21:37] <uberdub> its an intermittent issue
[21:37] <avihay> I think the atheros drivers are very stable
[21:37] <uberdub> been happening off, and on for months
[21:38] <uberdub> yeah, the driver seems stable, Im leaning toward the chip itself is faulty
[21:38] <avihay> anyway, you should specify your exact card model (lsusb/lspci)
[21:38] <uberdub> well, it comes up as different than what it is actually.
[21:39] <uberdub> 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[21:39] <uberdub> thats what lspci shows
[21:40] <uberdub> the card is actually a AR5B93
[21:42] <uberdub> is there any way I can verify its bad hardware? It works if i put the live cd in
[21:43] <avihay> well, I looked at a few posts, and they mostly point to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8257777&postcount=5
[21:43] <uberdub> it eventually starts working again, if I reboot, modprobe it for days
[21:44] <avihay> it's old, but it may still be relevant
[21:44] <well_laid_lawn> when it stops working have a look at dmesg
[21:44] <avihay> ^
[21:45] <uberdub> I have, I posted the results on pastebin
[21:45] <uberdub> http://pastebin.com/975hdWH1
[21:46] <uberdub> reading the ubuntu post now
[21:48] <pythonsnake> is there ufw gui for kde ?
[21:49] <uberdub> not sure
[21:50] <uberdub> to comment a line you add the "#" right?
[21:50] <OerHeks> KDE gui for iptables ?
[21:51] <well_laid_lawn> uberdub: yep #=comment
[21:52] <well_laid_lawn> see if this helps too - http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=uc81siq4mgm1dk9480ao2nlr85&topic=6822.0
[21:52] <uberdub> hmm, Ive read the ubuntu forum thread before
[21:52] <uberdub> Mine works with the live cd in
[21:53] <uberdub> which leads me to believe its software
[21:53] <well_laid_lawn> live cd would be using a different kernel afaik
[21:53] <uberdub> true
[21:54] <uberdub> Im going to follow the solution, and if it doesnt work, I can always reedit
[21:55] <uberdub> just seemed to me commenting out the line in blacklist.conf would uh..blacklist it
[21:56] <uberdub> to get the backports just use apt-get?
[22:00] <pythonsnake> I got that error when I try to comppile kcm_ufw
[22:00] <pythonsnake> ooops
[22:00] <pythonsnake> :/
[22:00] <pythonsnake> Is there a gufw for KDE ?
[22:00] <pythonsnake> I meant a gui firewall
[22:03] <uberdub> oh gui firewall, dunno
[22:03] <uberdub> there is guard dog
[22:03] <uberdub> and firestarter
[22:04] <uberdub> hmm I cant find these backports
[22:04] <uberdub> for karmic
[22:05] <OerHeks> !karmic
[22:05] <ubottu> Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 29th 2011, see http://goo.gl/UUTAB for details.
[22:05] <OerHeks> i think the karmic repo's are over ..
[22:05] <pythonsnake> uberdub: out of date
[22:05] <amichair> my click-on-the-taskbar-clock calendar is gone! Anyone have an idea how to bring it back? Is this a known issue?
[22:06] <uberdub> hmm, the solution on ubuntu forum isnt quite complete then
[22:06] <avihay> !brain
[22:06] <ubottu> Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[22:07] <uberdub> the solution says to install karmic backports, but thats not possible
[22:07] <OerHeks> do you run karmic at this moment ?
[22:07] <uberdub> no
[22:08] <uberdub> natty
[22:08] <OerHeks> use natty backports instead
[22:09] <uberdub> yeah, I was trying to follow a solution some one had given
[22:09] <uberdub> and that was to install karmic backports
[22:24] <amichair> When clicking on the panel's clock, the calendar is empty, as in http://imagebin.org/174990 (in kde 4.7.0 and 4.7.1). Any ideas?
[22:25] <chrischross> hallo, know somebody the command to register your nickname in quassel-irc
[22:31] <hipo_> im a big noob i did tar man and pretty much chinese poped up someone told me a way to do it before and it was realy simple the file is call tibia920.tgz
[22:32] <hipo_> how would i install /compile or w.e that
[22:32] <well_laid_lawn> hipo_: you were asking this in #xubuntu....
[22:32] <chrischross> please qry
[22:33] <chrischross> to nickname register question
[22:33] <well_laid_lawn> !register | chrischross
[22:33] <ubottu> chrischross: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[23:20] <sea4ever> Hey all, is anyone aware of whether the emacs special modes like git-blame-mode are included by default?
[23:20] <sea4ever> It seems like they are not, but I can't figure out which packages provide them.
[23:32] <sea4ever> I figured it out.