2012/12/10/#kubuntu.txt

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[00:52] <papertiger> what file manages the console login text (the text that appears before you log into the console)
[04:24] <brent> trying to add network printer, browse button greyed out, help????
[04:25] <heoyea_> try sudo
[04:26] <brent> hmm
[04:26] <brent> kdesu systemsettings
[04:27] <heoyea_> ye
[04:27] <brent> ok..
[04:28] <brent> nope windows printer via samba browse button still greyed out
[04:28] <heoyea_> guess fix ur samba 1st
[04:29] <brent> it installed samba for me when i shared out a partition...
[04:30] <brent> how might i go about fixing samba?
[04:36] <heoyea_> depends on ur setup
[04:36] <brent> is there something missing i need to install?
[04:36] <heoyea_> if its on a windows side
[04:36] <heoyea_> then check that 1st
[04:37] <brent> im on kubuntu 13.04. when i was on kubuntu 12.04 i just browsed, clicked on the printer on my windows machine and added it...
[04:38] <brent> now when i try to browse and find the printer i would like to add browse is greyed out
[04:39] <brent> install smbnetfs perhaps?
[04:50] <brent> trying to add network printer. browse button greyed out.. anyone know how to fix?
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[05:38] <brent> got my network printer working! had to enter smb://workgroup/machine/printer... still cant browse...
[05:48] <brent> how do i change my user picture on the new 'user bar' type login?
[05:59] <brent> http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?60130-light-dm
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[06:55] <raywmjr> So whats this channel for?
[06:57] <raywmjr> ok there are like a hundred people in here, are any of you actually on?
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[07:01] <StarryNight> ?
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[07:26] <Guest55955> hi
[07:26] <Guest55955> i am uuuu
[07:26] <Guest55955> up and rruning on linux
[07:26] <Guest55955> woop woop
[07:27] <Guest55955> i could not ccconect useing wwifi
[07:27] <Guest55955> had to  use lan cable
[07:28] <bazhang> what version of Linux Guest55955
[07:29] <Guest55955> is  that better
[07:29] <bazhang> Kubuntu ?
[07:29] <Guest55955> yep
[07:29] <bazhang> what version
[07:30] <Guest55955> not sure
[07:30] <heoyea_> lsb_release -a
[07:31] <Guest55955> its useing the duel boot download system
[07:31] <Guest55955> wubie or something
[07:31] <bazhang> !version | Guest55955
[07:31] <ubottu> Guest55955: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »
[07:31] <bazhang> yeah wubi
[07:32] <bazhang> not a true dual boot
[07:32] <heoyea_> get rid of wubi
[07:32] <Guest55955> i am a novice
[07:34] <Guest55955> can i get winamp for this
[07:34] <Guest55955> i need  to get shoutcast
[07:37] <heoyea_> seems like u should stick to windows since ur not really trying to learn linux
[07:38] <bazhang> Guest55955, shoutcast is available
[07:39] <Guest55955>  i just in stalled it give me time
[07:39] <bazhang> Guest55955, as far as winamp, you should look into audacious music player, it's skinnable
[07:42] <sasori> hey guys... anyone use calligra flow???????
[07:42] <sasori> odd question i know, but need help with one critical aspect
[07:42] <bazhang> !find calligra
[07:42] <ubottu> Found: calligra, calligra-data, calligra-dbg, calligra-dev, calligra-l10n-ca, calligra-l10n-cavalencia, calligra-l10n-da, calligra-l10n-de, calligra-l10n-el, calligra-l10n-engb (and 33 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=calligra&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[07:42] <bazhang> !info calligra
[07:42] <ubottu> calligra (source: calligra): extensive productivity and creative suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5.1-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 8 kB, installed size 71 kB
[07:43] <sasori> yup theres a group, will ask there, thanks
[07:43] <bazhang> sasori, whats the actual question
[07:44] <sasori> how to increase the page size, trying to do an org chart but need a way bigger canvas
[07:44] <sasori> was a huge complaint on kivio, was hoping it was fixed
[07:48] <heoyea_> isnt that Koffice
[07:49] <bazhang> calligra is KOfiice renamed?
[07:49] <heoyea_> pretty much
[07:49] <bazhang> !find Koffice
[07:49] <ubottu> Found: koffice-l10n-ca, koffice-l10n-cavalencia, koffice-l10n-da, koffice-l10n-de, koffice-l10n-el, koffice-l10n-engb, koffice-l10n-es, koffice-l10n-et, koffice-l10n-fr, koffice-l10n-gl (and 17 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=Koffice&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[07:50] <bazhang> guess so
[07:52] <Doyle> Why does /etc/ppp/chap-secrets create a new entry every time I attempt to connect to my work vpn? THey're all the same
[07:53] <heoyea_> cant save?
[07:55] <jeltsch> Hi, I’m using Kubuntu 12.10 with the proprietary NVidia driver from the nvidia-current-updates package.
[07:55] <jeltsch> Unfortunately, I cannot store my monitor configuration in KDE system settings.
[07:56] <jeltsch> I want the internal screen of my laptop to be right of the external screen I’m using.
[07:56] <jeltsch> If I store these settings and restart KDE, the internal and external screen are always overlapping with their top-right corners aligned.
[07:57] <heoyea_> try opening ur nvidia settings with sudo
[07:57] <heoyea_> since by default is not
[07:57] <jeltsch> I’m using the KDE dialog, not the NVidia-specific thing.
[07:58] <jeltsch> It worked well with the noveau driver, by the way.
[07:58] <heoyea_> so which ur using the nvidia or the open source 1?
[07:59] <jeltsch> I’m now using the proprietary NVidia driver, but KDE’s system settings for configuring the monitors.
[08:00] <heoyea_> think that just opens the nivdia 1
[08:01] <jeltsch> heoyea_: I don’t think so. The dialog looks the same as it did with the noveau driver. I think it is from KDE.
[08:02] <heoyea_> jeltsch: then is probally not the 1 u wanna use, since ur using nvidia drivers now
[08:02] <heoyea_> use the 1 that came with the drivers
[08:03] <jeltsch> Well, but the NVidia drivers implement the generic card interfaces and should thus work with the normal configuration apps, right?
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[08:04] <jeltsch> Furthermore, I have made some per-user settings with the KDE dialog now, so these will probably applied upon login even if the NVidia dialog has set something different before, I guess.
[08:05] <heoyea_> yea u can try a reboot if u need
[08:06] <jeltsch> I mean if KDE applies its settings on every login, then it will always overwrite the settings of the NVidia tool.
[08:06] <jeltsch> Well, I have “reset” the standard configuration in the KDE dialog now.
[08:06] <jeltsch> I hope that KDE will not interfer with the NVidia settings now.
[08:07] <jeltsch> Still, it’s a shame that KDE and the proprietary NVidia driver don’t work well together.
[08:07] <jeltsch> With GNOME, this finally worked after NVidia had fixed their drivers.
[08:07] <jeltsch> I will try with the NVidia tool now.
[08:08] <heoyea_> is not really a KDE issue is an nivida thing
[08:08] <jeltsch> Might be.
[08:09] <jeltsch> At least historically, the NVidia drivers were not very interoperable. :-(
[08:11] <jeltsch> What is the “X Configuration File” that nvidia-settings can save to?
[08:12] <heoyea_> xorg.conf
[08:13] <jeltsch> heoyea_: In /etc/X11?
[08:13] <heoyea_> ye
[08:13] <jeltsch> Okay, so this is not present by the default, and to reset the configuration, it is okay to just delete this file, right?
[08:13] <jeltsch> the default → default
[08:14] <heoyea_> jeltsch: make a backup of it 1st
[08:14] <jeltsch> I don’t have such a file in /etc/X11
[08:14] <jeltsch> Or do you mean before removing it?
[08:14] <heoyea_> yea just incase
[08:15] <faLUCE> hi, where can I find a list of new programs for linux that are much appreciated by the community?
[08:15] <heoyea_> which programs?
[08:17] <jeltsch> Okay, I will test this NVidia setup now. See you later.
[08:23] <soee> anyone testes KDE 4.10 b2 in qunatal?
[08:30] <jeltsch> Hi again, I have configured now with the NVidia tool and saved to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:30] <jeltsch> There is one problem with this solution however.
[08:31] <jeltsch> When I plug or unplug the monitor while X is running, X doesn’t switch two dual or single monitor.
[08:31] <jeltsch> I have to either manually configure then or restart X.
[08:31] <jeltsch> This is annoying.
[08:32] <jeltsch> And this is why I would prefer to use the KDE monitor settings, because in this case, plug and unplug works as it should.
[08:38] <jeltsch> Another question: I realize that under Kubuntu, my laptop’s fan is working quite often. What could be the source of this?
[08:42] <heoyea_> probally ur drivers
[08:43] <jeltsch> Which ones? Graphics card?
[08:44] <heoyea_> yea
[08:44] <Tm_T> jeltsch: have you monitored your cpu load?
[08:44] <heoyea_> else u can get some fan control alls
[08:45] <jeltsch> CPU load used to be quite high at times, because Nepomuk was working in the background.
[08:45] <jeltsch> But now the load is quite low and the fan is still switched on an off all the time.
[08:46] <Tm_T> jeltsch: allright, powertop could be your friend
[08:48] <jeltsch> Can I somehow find out the temperature of the graphics cards
[08:48] <jeltsch> cards → card?
[09:07] <heoyea_> install lm-sensors
[09:09] <jeltsch> Okay, I will look into this.
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[09:21] <_Adrod> hi guys can anyone from norway please contact me?
[09:26] <jeltsch> heoyea_: I have tried lm-sensors now. It basically told me what I had already found in /sys/bus/platform/devices/coretemp.0. All temperatures are between 57 and 62 ᵒC.
[09:26] <jeltsch> I don’t think this should cause a fan to start, should it?
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[11:01] <Rit> hi guys
[11:05] <justben> hi
[11:17] <bos> Я ЭТО НЕ ПИСАЛ
[11:18] <Rit> anyone from norway?
[11:25] <monkeyjuice> morning Rit
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[11:46] <tshering> I want to ask something as I am a little bit confused. In launchpad the latest version of modemmanager is being shown as 0.5 while the one in the muon repositories for kubuntu 12.10 quantal is 0.6. Can anyone guide me on this one ?
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[12:01] <acer_> hi
[12:04] <Guest98012> hello
[12:05] <Guest98012> i'm looking for a way to dual boot Kubuntu and Windows 7,Kubuntu installed first
[12:08] <ikonia> Guest98012: it's better to install windows first, but you can do it the other way around with a little more effort
[12:09] <Guest98012> well i tryed with win first and got nowhere
[12:09] <ikonia> please define "got nowhere"
[12:11] <Guest98012> all i managed to do is wubi install on a small partition
[12:11] <ikonia> do you want to do a wubi install, or a proper dual boot ?
[12:11] <Guest98012> dual
[12:12] <ikonia> ok, so I'll give you a URL in a moment
[12:12] <Guest98012> thank you
[12:12] <ikonia> however the basic permise is 1.) partition your disk for Windows - leaving UNALLOCATED (not unused) space for ubuntu 2.) install ubuntu into the unallocated space allowing it to create a new partition for it's self
[12:12] <ikonia> that's all you need to do
[12:12] <ikonia> !dualboot | Guest98012
[12:12] <ubottu> Guest98012: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[12:13] <Guest98012> well i came here to ask when i saw "do not install GRUB on sda/dev
[12:14] <ikonia> what ?
[12:15] <Guest98012> i'm a noob with no tech knowledge
[12:15] <Guest98012> so i browse the how to articles
[12:16] <ikonia> ok, I suggest reading the official pages I've just given you
[12:17] <ikonia> and keeping in mind what I've just said
[12:50] <_arlw> hi guys
[12:57] <Guest98012> ikonia would this work?
[12:57] <Guest98012> via the LiveCD terminal
[12:57] <Guest98012> This method uses the terminal from a LiveCD.
[12:57] <Guest98012> The user must know the device name/partition of the installed system (sda1, sdb5, etc), which is then mounted from the LiveCD.
[12:57] <Guest98012>  GRUB 2 files are copied from the LiveCD libraries to the proper locations and MBR.
[12:57] <FloodBotK1> Guest98012: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:57] <Guest98012> Filesystem     Type      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
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[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:53] <_arlw> hi BluesKaj
[13:53] <diomeo> hey all!
[13:53] <diomeo> can anyone return feedbacks || features/fixs request about http://bitfungus.org/ ?
[13:54] <diomeo> we would like to make it helpful for developers/designers as much as it can be
[13:54] <diomeo> and the "i use github or i use bitbucket" is not allowed :D it is not github or bitbucket
[13:54] <diomeo> feel free to contribute! anonymous and free obviously
[14:02] <Tm_T> diomeo: hi, bit wrong place to advertise (;
[14:03] <diomeo> oh ops :P
[14:03] <diomeo> sorry for that
[14:03] <diomeo> just it is not advertising ;) we would like more feedbacks!
[14:05] <BluesKaj> diomeo, try #kubuntu-devel
[14:05] <diomeo> thx ok!!
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[14:24] <sdkagnen> ıkuh
[14:24] <sdkagnen> ökjhk
[14:25] <sdkagnen> şloop
[14:39] <BluesKaj> I'm testing the 3.7 kernel on 12.1.0 as suggested by using nomodeset in place of quiet splash , but the boot still freezes completely at the hardware scan ...any other suggestions ?
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[15:15] <eagles0513875> hey guys why is the 64bit kubuntu iso on the download page so bloated its showing 934Mb
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[15:27] <eagles0513875> guessing this isn't a good place to ask why the 64bit 12.10 iso is bloated to 934Mb
[15:28] <SIR_Taco> eagles0513875:  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.10-release   read under 12.10 Highlights heading
[15:28] <eagles0513875> thanks SIR_Taco
[15:29] <SIR_Taco> they made the decision to stop cd isos in favour of dvd/usb installs (to fit more into the install images)
[15:31] <eagles0513875> :) thats good
[15:32] <eagles0513875> that might explain the fair bit of bloat i have on my install but then again not sure
[15:34] <SIR_Taco> quite possible. Whenever I do a fresh install I usually spend a bunch of time purging a lot of software that I'll never use :)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, I don't think of it as bloat , just necessary for todays cpus and graphics to include all those kernel modules required to run kubuntu on all the devices on the market these days
[15:42] <eagles0513875> actually BluesKaj  not true read the release notes they are doing that to include more software
[15:43] <BluesKaj> then what do you call bloat , eagles0513875 ?
[15:44] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i didn't realize that until i was pointed to the release notes and read them
[15:53] <BluesKaj> poor packaging ?
[15:56] <ikonia> 900 meg is "bloat" ?
[16:06] <_awen> hi everybody
[16:07] <spawn[dead]> do any of you guys use rekonq as your browser?
[16:08] <_awen> spawn[dead]: I use Chrome
[16:10] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875 I read the release notes and it looks like a compromise was made due to the consolidation with some of the alternate install's features ...seems legit to me .
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[16:14] <spawn57`> yeah, rekonq leaves a lot to be desired
[16:14] <BluesKaj> _awen, rekonq is too buggy for normal use on my system...it's not worth the grief
[16:15] <_awen> BluesKaj: you're right
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[16:31] <spawn57`> rekonq is always going to play catch up with chrome it seems :\
[16:32] <cojack> yo guys
[16:32] <_awen> hi cojack
[16:32] <BluesKaj> chromium-browser is the version to use on linux , google chrome has flash and other media plugin issues
[16:32] <cojack> Can someone told me who get idea to set up every document to open default by LibreOffice? (Kubuntu 12.10)
[16:34] <cojack> every text docs are by default opened by libreoffice
[16:34]  * cojack crying like a baby
[16:35] <BluesKaj> cojack, choose a text file , the right click , choose open with , choose "other" , then in the menu choose utlities>kate , then check the "remember application...."
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[16:36] <cojack> BluesKaj: every mimetype? I work with many mimetypes files, do you have any solution to make it by run in kate?
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[16:37] <Guest1365> i sorted out my problems with shoutcast by useing firefox
[16:37] <cojack> sometimes i forgot and click on the document and libreoffice starts, I should then each one change, js, php, html, css, c++, c, h, log, NO EXTENSION TOO
[16:38] <BluesKaj> cojack,  let me rephrase , choose a text file , then right click on it , choose, "open with" , then choose "other" , then in the menu choose utlities>kate , then check the "remember application...."
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[16:41] <cojack> BluesKaj: and I will repeat my self once again, if you will know what mimetype is... Ehh each mimetype kind of plain-text are opened by default in LibreOffice, each of document like *.js, *.php have self mimetype, so If I first time opening .cpp I should do it, next time will be opened in kate, then when I first time opening *.h I should do this, it's nonsens, do you think I should remember do I change the default program to open this file?
[16:42] <cojack> was great, each of those files was opened by kate as default, who change this?!
[16:42] <cojack> and how to revert this?
[16:42] <Guest1365> kubuntu is briliant
[16:43] <BluesKaj> cojack, yes and if you follow the steps i posted the mimetype will be changed to text/kate from libre office documents
[16:44] <BluesKaj> co to revert just choose open with libre office in the steps above
[16:44] <BluesKaj> cojack,^
[16:44] <cojack> BluesKaj: where you have other in open with?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> right click on the document ."other should be at the bottom of the dialog
[16:45] <cojack> dude pls, you are boring
[16:45] <cojack> you don't get it
[16:45] <SIR_Taco> or use System Settings -> File Associations (instead of searching for each file type)
[16:46] <cojack> do you read what I worte?
[16:46] <cojack> wrote*
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ok , then nevermind , perhaps yoiu should go to your native languager chat so that ppl understand you
[16:46] <BluesKaj> cojack,^
[16:47] <BluesKaj> I have to reboot
[16:47] <cojack> BluesKaj: File Associations this is what I need
[16:48] <Guest1365> i cant get wifi to work but the lan cable works
[16:49] <Guest1365> whts up
[16:49] <cojack> SIR_Taco: there is any way to change all text type to open by Kate?
[16:49] <cojack> but not one by one in this File Associations ui
[16:49] <Guest1365> it keeps asking for my password on wifi
[16:50] <Guest1365> nd doesnt recognise it
[16:50] <Guest1365> i am with talktalk
[16:52] <Guest1365> sugar kills
[16:53] <SIR_Taco> cojack: not that I know of off hand
[17:04] <_awen> guys, anyone from norway ?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> _awen, there is a norwegian chat , I think
[17:08] <BluesKaj> !no
[17:08] <ubottu> Hvis du vil diskutere på Norsk, vennligst gå til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[17:09] <_awen> BluesKaj:  ok sorry
[17:09] <BluesKaj> nothing to be sorry about _awen
[17:10] <_awen> !no
[17:10] <ubottu> Hvis du vil diskutere på Norsk, vennligst gå til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ...snow to push , BBL.
[17:53] <cojack> exit
[18:12] <Fuzzles272> how do i install the drivers for steam e.g. intel or amd?
[18:13] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: graphics drivers?
[18:13] <Fuzzles272> <SIR_Tacoyes
[18:13] <Fuzzles272> <SIR_Taco Yes
[18:13] <SIR_Taco> K-Menu -> Applications -> System -> Additional Drivers
[18:14] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: ye but there is special optimized ones for gaming isnt there
[18:14] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/882965118609963322/
[18:14] <SIR_Taco> what card do you have?
[18:15] <utkonos> does anyone here use pyv8 / v8 ?
[18:15] <utkonos> I'm getting a segfault using pyv8
[18:15] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: ] nee ATI RV710 [Mobility Radeon HD 4500/5100 Series]
[18:15] <utkonos> on kubuntu 12.10
[18:16] <utkonos> this is the error
[18:16] <utkonos> http://paste.kde.org/622946/
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[19:01] <Fuzzles272> i keep getting sorry jockey when installing my amd graphics driver in additional drivers?
[19:05] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: you left before I could finish... the RV710 is a 4000 series card, which has been depreciated by AMD/ATI... you need to install the legacy 12.6 catalyst drivers (I'm in the same boat with my HD3200 card in my laptop)
[19:05] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: how do i do that?
[19:06] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: you're on Kubuntu 12.10?
[19:06] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: no 12.04
[19:08] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco im trying to get steam to work but it keeps saying update open gl, but my driver is installed through addition drivers as its in there :S
[19:09] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: but is it using the fglrx driver or the radeon driver?
[19:10] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: the ati/amd proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[19:11] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: hmmm... which version?
[19:11] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: how do i find out?
[19:12] <heoyea_> aptitude search
[19:13] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: should tell you in the Catalyst Control Center... Kmenu -> Applications -> System (should be in there somewhere)
[19:13] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: ok 1 sec
[19:15] <bar__> KDE is driving me crazy, I can't solve a simple problem. So in the desktop widgets with icon, i have a "chromium web browser" icon there. When I change its name to "chromium", after 0.5 sec it gets renamed back to "chromium web browser"... On live cd 12.10 it works, but when I use hdd installed kubuntu there is no way to change dekstop icon name. Uhh any ideas?
[19:16] <heoyea_> change desktop layout
[19:17] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco:  is it driver packaging version?
[19:18] <bar__> heoyea: when I change to classic desktop folder view the fonts are rendered using ugly font (without shadow etc) and when I use new kde4 desktop, but not widget one, the icons are very small and there is no way to allign them to greed.
[19:18] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: brb got my dinner
[19:18] <bar__> and in the last case they are name changeable, but when I changed it to chromium, in my menu I have both "chromium" and "chromium web browser" apps
[19:18] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: ok
[19:20] <heoyea_> bar__: drag out a shortcut and rename it
[19:31] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: im back was it the packageing version you want?
[19:32] <SIR_Taco> the package version and the catalyst version don't ever match... but whatever you have and I can find out
[19:33] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: my packaging version is 8.96.7-120312a-135598C-ATI
[19:34] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: also, what does the command: "glxinfo | grep glx" produce? (paste it to paste.kde.org or pastebin)
[19:34] <SIR_Taco> in konsole
[19:36] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: http://paste.kde.org/623348/
[19:39] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: ok. your current pacakge is for AMD/ATI Catalyst 12.4 ... I believe Steam needs minimum 12.6. I would download this: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/catalyst126legacyproducts.aspx   and follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Manually_installing_Catalyst_12.6
[19:41] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: will steam sort all this when its fully released its a lot of hassle
[19:44] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: That's a good question, I'm not sure. It sounds like they're trying to work with all parties currently involved to sort out issues like this (the Ubuntu team, Nvidia, AMD/ATI, Intel, etc.). How far that will go beyond just listing minimum requirements for drivers and such I don't know
[19:45] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: ok thanks
[19:46] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: I'm in the beta and trying it out... haven't had any problems with the games so far, but the client definitely needs some stability work (which is to be expected at this point) :)
[19:48] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: i hope they fix it becasue trying to get the correct driver working it tells you on steam site what to do to get 12.11 castilist but havent got it working in kubuntu
[19:49] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: its ment to tell me in additional drivers how to install and which driver  so im trying that way first to see if it works
[19:51] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272:  if you read your link: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/882965118609963322/   under the "Hardware and Software Requirements" heading it reads: "AMD driver support - For recent cards (e.g. series 5 and above), we recommend installing the 12.11 driver. For older cards, Catalyst 12.6 supports the HD 2400 Pro card and is the latest for the 2 and 4 GPU series."
[19:52] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: ok ill do the method you told me then :)
[19:57] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: like i said i hope on released this is all auto haha
[19:58] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco:  got to restart brb
[20:03] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: i get required opengl extenstion is not supported plz update your opengl driver :S
[20:03] <SIR_Taco> and your fglrx version is now 8.980?
[20:04] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: how do i find out?
[20:06] <SIR_Taco> in console: dpkg-query -l fglrx
[20:06] <SIR_Taco> or you can use muon, or kpackagekit or whatever package manager you have to check
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[20:07] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: i have 2:8.960
[20:10] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: which is the 12.4 version....
[20:12] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: so why is it still asking to update the opengl driver :S
[20:12] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_via_the_command_line    (which is the section above the one I posted earlier) explains how to purge the old drivers first
[20:13] <SIR_Taco> because it wants the 12.6 drivers, not the 12.4
[20:13] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: so i just do each step?
[20:14] <SIR_Taco> yes, and then continue into the steps I linked before, which are immediately after these on that page
[20:14] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: ok ill be back soon
[20:18] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: do i do the steps 4 to 8 as well before following the link before
[20:19] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: for step 4 follow the "manually installing catalyst 12.6" instructions below that
[20:22] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: i think i know what i missed the first time now
[20:24] <SIR_Taco> I haven't tried installing it on my laptop which has an ATI/AMD 3200 HD, only my desktop which had an Nvidia 465 card
[20:26] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: i have a icon in the bottom right saying amd testing use only ?
[20:27] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: never seen that before
[20:27] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: and i still get open gl update error message :S
[20:29] <SIR_Taco> Fuzzles272: only other thing I can think of is: do you have glx-alternative-fglrx installed? and selected with: "update-alternatives --config glx" ?
[20:30] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: not sure but im going to leave it to avoide breaking as i use kubuntu for every day use so ill just wait till its released and hopefully be packaged and hassle free
[20:32] <Fuzzles272> SIR_Taco: thanks for all yout time and help tho :)
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[20:46] <mitchell_486> does anyone in here have a Zenworks 11 environment that they  manage? if so, have you found a way to get ZCM 11 Remote Viewer working properly?
[20:49] <heoyea_> nope
[20:50] <mitchell_486> nope, there's not ZCM evironments here or nope it'll never work for me
[20:50] <mitchell_486> :(
[20:50] <mitchell_486> both?
[20:51] <heoyea_> sure
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[21:49] <Moxon> Heya!  I switched to raring ringtail and have problems with gnome applications: they freeze at random points (tested with gnucash, gramps, gnome-control-center).  is this a known issue?
[21:50] <Moxon> I tried to run gnucash as root and it works without any freezing.
[22:05] <Moxon> question: why do my gnome applications use the oxygen theme and how can I turn this setting of?
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[23:59] <simplew> yofel_: ping