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| [07:55] <dholbach> good morning | |
| [07:58] <gurgalof> morning | |
| === doko_ is now known as doko | |
| [09:49] <Laney> so! Does raring's nux now have The Bug fixed? | |
| [09:49] <Laney> i.e. can I remove the pinning? | |
| [09:55] * Laney tries it anyway | |
| [10:09] <hrw> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2012/12/10/how-to-fry-speakers-in-your-chromebook/ - for all chromebook users | |
| [10:10] <infinity> hrw: I'm not sure I need to know how to destroy my hardware. | |
| [10:10] <infinity> hrw: Perhaps "how not to fry..." would be more helpful? :P | |
| [10:14] <suihkulokki> iirc you can break n900 speaker with alsamixer settings as well | |
| [10:14] <Laney> heat oil. remove speakers. batter speakers. lower speakers into oil. wait five minutes. remove. eat. enjoy. | |
| [10:21] <gurgalof> mm tasty speakers... | |
| [10:22] <hrw> infinity: read post. you will understand title | |
| [10:22] <davecheney> i'll have my chromebook medium rare, hold the onions | |
| [10:22] <hrw> suihkulokki: do not have n900 anymore | |
| [10:43] <suihkulokki> hrw: just pointing out that chromebook is not unique in providing a so raw interface for audio that you can physically overpower the speaker | |
| [10:48] <gurgalof> i just got a system problem detected dialog while running sudo reboot on the nexus7 | |
| [10:49] <hrw> suihkulokki: understood | |
| === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun | |
| [15:46] <plars> ogra_: fwiw, I prefer manual flashing :) | |
| [15:46] <plars> ogra_: but I already need to extract the bootimg, so if I have to do one more extraction step, it's not really a problem | |
| [15:48] <plars> ogra_, xnox: also, not sure if either of you saw my question about this last week. I was trying to get preseeding working on the nexus7 image and not having much luck. Is there something special I'm likely missing here? I tried putting it both in the initrd as well as in the rootfs, but neither seemed to work for me | |
| [15:48] * xnox is yet to preseed oem-config on nexus7 images. and ogra is on holidays =) | |
| [15:49] <xnox> plars: i am currently digging a hang in ubiquity, but getting pre-seeding to work is on my list. I have a few requests for various preseeds =/ | |
| [15:50] <plars> xnox: gotcha, hang is clearly more important :) Ping me if you have some information later on maybe? | |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | |
| [15:50] <xnox> plars: ack. | |
| [15:50] <plars> thanks! | |
| [15:51] <xnox> plars: there is automated test for oem-config preseeding, but I'm not sure if it preseeds the user-setup bit as well or not. | |
| [15:55] <plars> xnox: it's *in* the preseed for oem tests currently, but I'm not sure that it really goes through the oem-config portion of the setup currently | |
| [15:59] <dholbach> do we know if someone is working on the bluetooth upgrade issue? | |
| [16:03] <sfeole> dholbach: i have no heard anything dholbach | |
| [16:03] <sfeole> /s/no/not | |
| [16:03] <dholbach> ok | |
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| [16:38] <gurgalof> can i resize the 6gb partition to a size suitable for a 32GB nexus7 in raring? since there is only a image for the 8GB one | |
| [17:02] <xnox> gurgalof: you can download the userdata image -> ungzip -> run sim2img -> then run make_ext4fs with options to make a bigger filesystem. | |
| [17:03] <xnox> gurgalof: but the resulting image might end up to big to be flashable =/ | |
| [17:03] <gurgalof> how did the quantal images do it? | |
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| [17:07] <xnox> gurgalof: we generated three images for quantal. but essentially all images are generated using make_ext4fs | |
| [17:08] <xnox> gurgalof: but it's a lot of time & space to build three. | |
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| [17:49] <Quintasan> ogra_: Is it possible to get ubuntu-core i.MX53 image that I can just dd to a card and expect it to boot? | |
| [17:52] <gurgalof> xnox, you don't know which parameters they used for the quantal images? | |
| [17:53] <vanhoof> gurgalof: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7/ubuntu-nexus7/build_script | |
| [17:53] <vanhoof> nothing fancy | |
| [17:53] <vanhoof> :) | |
| [17:54] <vanhoof> gurgalof: you on 32G+3G? | |
| [17:54] <vanhoof> if so, factor in partition 10 vs 9 for UDA | |
| [17:54] <gurgalof> nope, just the normal 32GB | |
| [17:55] <vanhoof> yeah that'll work w/ -t -x then | |
| [17:55] <xnox> Quintasan: ubuntu core inherently comes without a kernel =) | |
| [17:56] <Quintasan> uh | |
| [17:56] <gurgalof> sweet, i need the extra space... | |
| [17:56] <xnox> Quintasan: do you not like desktop image linked from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/MX5 ? | |
| [17:56] <Quintasan> xnox: What I want is a basic install, kernel + things that make apt work :P | |
| [17:57] <Quintasan> xnox: Uh, no. Because I don't have any monitor to connect it to proceed with the installation nor I'm particulary inclined to remove a crapton of packages | |
| [17:57] <infinity> Quintasan: We don't produce any mx5 images anymore, and for precise, it was only the desktop image. | |
| [17:57] <Quintasan> infinity: I see, I'll just try installing the Linaro one then | |
| [17:57] <infinity> Quintasan: You could use linaro's image tools to combine a Linaro hwpack with the ubuntu-core rootfs. | |
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| [18:52] <dxdemetriou> hello, I have the same question every time I'm thinking to flashing my smartphone or tablet, is there a possibility the device to go in unrecoverable mode and nothing can be do about it? | |
| [18:54] <prpplague> dxdemetriou: there is always that possibility | |
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | |
| [19:01] <dxdemetriou> are there devices for avoiding that (some place for checking about)? for example with jtag or with some recovery mode? I'm asking because I didn't tried anything yet, actually I'm waiting for x86 devices.. | |
| [19:02] <Tassadar> it also depends on the device, eg. chances of hard-bricking nexus 7 are very low, you can mess up "only" the bootloader | |
| [19:02] <Tassadar> and you don't even touch bootloader if you just want to flash ubuntu | |
| [19:03] <Snark> waiting for x86 devices!? Strange idea | |
| [19:10] <Tassadar> and, as for the jtag - search for "unbrickable mod" - it also depends on the device | |
| [19:19] <Tassadar> Somebody knows if kernel command line can handle parameters with spaces? Is it like bash, do I have to put it into quotes, like name="value with spaces"? | |
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| [22:25] <mjrosenb> are there directions for installing 12.10 on a pandaboard? | |
| [22:25] <mjrosenb> http://omappedia.org/wiki/Prebuilt_ubuntu_binaries only mentions through 12.04 | |
| === robbiew-afk is now known as robbiew | |
| [23:03] <micahg> mjrosenb: is that an omap4 board? | |
| [23:04] <micahg> (sorry I'm still not so clear on what's what with ARM) | |
| [23:04] <mjrosenb> yes. | |
| [23:05] <micahg> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/ has a link for the arm desktop image | |
| [23:07] <Tassadar> Ooh, 13.04 on Nexus7 has this nice "setup wizard" | |
| [23:07] <Tassadar> do like) | |
| [23:07] <davecheney> micahg: i'd stick with 12.04 | |
| [23:07] <davecheney> you can use the 12.04 installer, then dist-upgrade to 12.10 | |
| [23:07] <davecheney> but I have found that the 12.10 kernel is not as stable as 12.04 | |
| [23:07] <micahg> davecheney: heh, the question was about 12.10 :) | |
| [23:08] <davecheney> that is to say, 12.04 -- rock solid, 12.10 -- not rock solid | |
| [23:09] <Tassadar> hmm, but unity crashed after selecting text field, well, that is unfortunate) | |
| [23:11] <mjrosenb> davecheney: I tried that once, and it was disastorous. | |
| [23:12] <davecheney> mjrosenb: yeah, didn't work during the 12.10 alpha | |
| [23:12] <davecheney> but worked well last time I tried | |
| [23:12] <mjrosenb> davecheney: I tried last week | |
| [23:12] <mjrosenb> now X doesn't start. | |
| [23:12] <davecheney> mjrosenb: to be fair, I tried from a fresh 12.04 install | |
| [23:12] <davecheney> not one that had been used | |
| [23:13] <mjrosenb> davecheney: someone recommended that I shold just install 12.10 outright. | |
| [23:13] <mjrosenb> rather than attempting to upgrade | |
| [23:13] * davecheney is sticking with 12.04 | |
| [23:14] <mjrosenb> it is funny because the installation directions on the 12.10 page make no mention of 12.10. | |
| [23:16] <Ethernin> dannf, hey i've looked for the 12.04 arm version of ubuntu and not been able to find it? | |
| [23:16] <Ethernin> davecheney, | |
| [23:17] <Ethernin> davecheney, I could only find 12.10 and 13.04, can u link me to 12.04 for arm? | |
| [23:17] <Ethernin> davecheney, I've got 2 nexus7's that i've been installing everything ubuntu I can on, playing with a lot of different desktop environments trying to find something freakin usable | |
| [23:18] <Ethernin> XCFE and LXDE have been the most promising so far, but XFCE doesn't let you grab windows with your finger! | |
| [23:18] <Ethernin> also the close and maximize icons in the window pane don't work either | |
| [23:18] <davecheney> Ethernin: did you look here ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/ | |
| [23:19] <Ethernin> davecheney, I think so but lemme check, thank you sir! | |
| [23:19] <davecheney> Ethernin: you didn't say which host you are looking for ? | |
| [23:19] <Ethernin> davecheney, I assume Texas Instruments OMAP3 (Hard-Float) preinstalled desktop image is the correct one? | |
| [23:19] <davecheney> Ethernin: for what host ? | |
| [23:19] <Ethernin> Nexus 7 | |
| [23:20] <Ethernin> I would like to run 12.04 for the obviously stability reasons you just mentioned | |
| [23:20] <davecheney> Ethernin: the nexus 7 images are 12.10 and 13.04 alpha | |
| [23:20] <Ethernin> yeah | |
| [23:20] <davecheney> there is no 12.04 available for nexus 7 | |
| [23:20] <Ethernin> got both those installed right now | |
| [23:20] <Ethernin> RATS | |
| [23:20] <davecheney> nobody has invented a time machine | |
| [23:20] <Ethernin> yeah that's what i thought | |
| [23:20] <davecheney> wrt stability, i was talking about the pandaboard, only | |
| [23:20] <Ethernin> appreciate your input, was trying to get to the bottom of that | |
| [23:20] <Ethernin> ah right on | |
| [23:20] <Ethernin> how is the pandaboard? | |
| [23:21] <davecheney> pretty good | |
| [23:21] <davecheney> but not the king of the hill anymore | |
| [23:21] <Ethernin> ya | |
| [23:21] <davecheney> nexus 7 blows the doors off it for a dev platform | |
| [23:21] <Ethernin> it's crazy how many quad core arm boards there are for devs now! | |
| [23:21] <davecheney> got a friend with the samsung quad core | |
| [23:21] <davecheney> which is also very good | |
| [23:21] <Tassadar> hmm, I've installed today's 13.04 for nexus 7, but I can't finish the "setup wizard", because the on-screen keyboard does not show up - is this known issue? | |
| [23:21] <Ethernin> yeah, i've been trying to basically turn it into a pentest platform | |
| [23:22] <Ethernin> Tassadar, | |
| [23:22] <Ethernin> Tassadar, yeah I had the same problem, u can either try to keep clicking the input fields or plug in a keyboard with OTG cable | |
| [23:22] <Ethernin> that's what i did | |
| [23:22] <Ethernin> but i had the same problem | |
| [23:22] <Ethernin> u just have to keep tapping it | |
| [23:22] <Ethernin> T t t tappp it in! | |
| [23:22] <Tassadar> well...mine's kinda running from USB fladh drive now, so OTG is not really an option) | |
| [23:22] <Ethernin> ah | |
| [23:23] <Ethernin> u booted off a usb flash on the Nexus??? | |
| [23:23] * Tassadar is tappin' it | |
| [23:23] <Ethernin> lolz | |
| [23:23] <Ethernin> I used fastboot to install myself | |
| [23:23] <Ethernin> which is key when you need to recompile the kernel to do other things later | |
| [23:23] <Ethernin> omg | |
| [23:23] <Ethernin> installing the kernel is kind of a silly process on those things | |
| [23:24] <Tassadar> yeah, grub would be handy in here) | |
| [23:24] <Ethernin> for realz | |
| [23:24] <Ethernin> so how did u get the nexus to boot off usb? did you put the machine is fastboot mode? | |
| [23:24] <Tassadar> guys at linaro are working on it, but I think it will not happen for n7 - locked/signed bootloader | |
| [23:24] <Tassadar> kexec and magic, wait | |
| [23:25] <Tassadar> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35279976 | |
| [23:25] <Ethernin> nice! First time I've heard this is even POSSIBLE! | |
| [23:25] <Ethernin> KICKASS | |
| [23:25] <Tassadar> dammit) | |
| [23:25] <Tassadar> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403 | |
| [23:25] <Tassadar> this one | |
| [23:25] <Ethernin> oh man this is AWESOME | |
| [23:26] <Ethernin> so there is definitely potential for dual booting android and ubuntu... | |
| [23:26] <Ethernin> wicked | |
| [23:27] <Ethernin> Tassadar yo man, so I've been working on 2 Nexus7s quite a bit, and right now I'm trying to make the touchscreen actually usuable | |
| [23:28] <Ethernin> I would also really like to get magick-rotation and multitouch working | |
| [23:28] <Ethernin> so u can do all the cool stuff | |
| [23:28] <Tassadar> What is wrong with it now? | |
| [23:28] <Tassadar> oh, I think I've read that it stops working after a while...? | |
| [23:29] <Ethernin> well, the touch screen desperately needs to be calibrated better, gnome-classic and unity are faily limmited and slow on it | |
| [23:29] <Ethernin> actually with LXDE and XFCE it's pretty good (cept for the window panel problem in XFCE) but by default there is no multitouch support ect | |
| [23:30] <Tassadar> one guy on XDA said that even KDE is faster than unity) | |
| [23:30] <Ethernin> yeah KDE is the only one I haven't tried yet | |
| [23:30] <Ethernin> I think ill try that right now | |
| [23:30] <Ethernin> but im doubtful as KDE will definitely be a resource hog | |
| [23:31] <Tassadar> yeah, I just find it...interesting..? | |
| [23:31] <Ethernin> for sure | |
| [23:31] <Ethernin> yeah I'll install kde right now and let u know | |